COVID-19 2020

[Starsky]

folks hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest

Paul Simon quote!!!!

[sweetcell]

correct, nice catch   

i use it all the time, very a propos in these divided and hyper-partisan times.  paul wrote some timeless lines...

[Space Freely]

in the early stages of the pandemic, COVID was described as an old person's disease.  folks were dying almost exclusively in nursing homes and palliative care units.  the news loudly proclaimed that young people were not affected by the disease (took us a while to realize this wasn't true).  folks hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest - so plenty of folks in their 20's and 30's still thing it's not something that will affect them, or at least their risk is very very low.  throw in some disinformation and a dose of peer pressure, and voila...

The risk for younger people IS very, very low. Certainly compared to the risk for 40+ and more so 65+ And not every 20something hangs out with their grandparents or has kids or thinks of anyone beyond themselves.

[sweetcell]

or thinks of anyone beyond themselves.

i  initially wrote something to this effect but deleted it.  when i was in my 20's, my priorities were my friends, dates, work/career, and living for the weekend.  it was indeed a very insular and self-centered time in my life.  if i was in any way anti-science, or right-leaning, i could totally see myself not getting a shot at that time.  reminder: many (most?) 20-somethings haven't visited their parents or grandparents since the start of the pandemic.  hell, i went home once a year - if that - during that period of my life.  throw in a pandemic and i'm staying put in my little apartment so who need a vaccination?

[Starsky]

Nice to see Florida has decided to not count people dying from covid.

[Space Freely]

Nice to see Florida has decided to not count people dying from covid.

Link?

[Starsky]

Nice to see Florida has decided to not count people dying from covid.

Link?

Ugh… I can’t link my brain but you can check worldometer and it’s clear

[Space Freely]

Nice to see Florida has decided to not count people dying from covid.

Link?

Ugh… I can’t link my brain but you can check worldometer and it’s clear

According to NY Times, 464 Covid deaths on Florida today and a seven day average of 200something.

[Starsky]

If this is incorrect I stand corrected…not sure why the huge discrepancy

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

[Space Freely]

If this is incorrect I stand corrected…not sure why the huge discrepancy

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/

Don't know why the numbers for Florida are wrong on worldometer but the to obviously are. Seem to be reported correctly at least a couple of other places.

[Starsky]

I think I am onto something


Florida is a mess reporting data… not sure how other outlets get their data but the state is only reporting numbers once a week which is not the same as not reporting but it’s pretty iffy

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/united-states

[sweetcell]

I think I am onto something


Florida is a mess reporting data…

reminder: de santis = trump jr, so of course the truth is optional - and best ignored when inconvenient.

do you not remember Rebekah Jones?
Former health department employee, Rebekah Jones, granted official whistleblower status

[Starsky]

Of course I remember

[sweetcell]

behavioral economics in action:

Delta will hike insurance premiums and limit sick pay for unvaccinated employees
"The airline said that as of November 1, unvaccinated staff will pay up to $200 a month more for their company health insurance, depending on the coverage. It will also limit the number of sick days unvaccinated employees are allowed to take if they contract Covid-19."
"The average hospital stay for Covid-19 has cost Delta $50,000 per person," said the airline. "This surcharge will be necessary to address the financial risk the decision to not vaccinate is creating for our company."

[Starsky]

Makes sense



But they won’t require employees get vaccinated?