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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #255 on: November 09, 2022, 02:56:50 pm »
so if we want the senate, are we all sending money into Warnock's run off

is it only one month this time?
I think it'll be 50-49 for the Dems going into the runoff at this point.
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #256 on: November 09, 2022, 02:59:54 pm »
so if we want the senate, are we all sending money into Warnock's run off

is it only one month this time?
I think it'll be 50-49 for the Dems going into the runoff at this point.
oh so save my money and dump into TSLA
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #258 on: November 09, 2022, 03:07:45 pm »
God I feel so good…but trying to stay even keeled until more counting takes place


There are all kinds of takes on what happened last night; thankfully what I thought would happen did not. It was not a shellacking and inflation does not appear to have disproportionately driven voters. That’s about all I can say right now.

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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #259 on: November 09, 2022, 03:14:06 pm »
so if we want the senate, are we all sending money into Warnock's run off

is it only one month this time?
I think it'll be 50-49 for the Dems going into the runoff at this point.

Cortez Masto will pull it out?

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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #260 on: November 09, 2022, 03:15:49 pm »
so if we want the senate, are we all sending money into Warnock's run off

is it only one month this time?
I think it'll be 50-49 for the Dems going into the runoff at this point.

Cortez Masto will pull it out?
The election data nerds say she is still a slight favorite.
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #261 on: November 09, 2022, 03:33:10 pm »
so if we want the senate, are we all sending money into Warnock's run off

is it only one month this time?
I think it'll be 50-49 for the Dems going into the runoff at this point.
oh so save my money and dump into TSLA

wrong take: we need Warnock to win, so Dems have a one-vote majority, AKA they can afford to lose a vote and still pass things (on votes that only require 50).  this would allow the Dems to occasionally tell Manchin to sit down and shut up.


Nate Silver is saying his current best guess is GOP 220-Dems 215. While I never want to see the Dems lose the house, trying to see the GOP form a quorum will be hilarious if that's the margin.

i think that would be a scary situation: just like the entire Dem caucus had to kowtow to Manchin every time he wanted to extract concessions; the fringe elements of the GOP - MTG and the like - suddenly become kingmakers.  in his desperation to get the gavel, mccarthy is likely willing to give whatever those folks want in exchange for their support.  i don't want to see MGT on, say, the judiciary committee... but she could demand it if her vote is important enough.  on the flip side, given their penchant for disorganization and self-centeredness, a house with a slim GOP majority will likely devolve into a shit-show that goes nowhere more often than not.
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #262 on: November 09, 2022, 03:35:33 pm »
“Candidates matter,” the Trump adviser said. “They were all bad candidates,” the adviser continued, critiquing many of Trump’s handpicked contenders in key battleground states.

Trump clones minus the messianic auras equal unelectable buffoons.

Trump plus the messianic aura equal an electable but even bigger buffoon.

that's so trump: pumped up those candidates in the run-up, "we have the best, the best people", etc etc etc and then cuts them loose like an anchor the second they fail - in his name.  because trump can only win, right?  if he doesn't, then it's someone else's fault...
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #263 on: November 09, 2022, 03:40:27 pm »
There are all kinds of takes on what happened last night; thankfully what I thought would happen did not.
 
i'm still partial to the theory that the majority of polls in the last month were from right-leaning or right-sponsored pollsters, so their results skewed the poll-of-poll numbers that talking heads use - hence the chicken little-worth claims of imminent and complete doom.  conspiracy theory is that they did this to create enthusiasm on the right and suppress votes on the left ("why bother voting, the dems aren't going to win either way...").  maybe it backfired?  maybe the right became complacent ("we got this, no worries") while motivating the left?
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #264 on: November 09, 2022, 04:31:42 pm »
PA Dems just flipped their House as well, first time in control in a decade
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #265 on: November 09, 2022, 04:34:32 pm »
“Candidates matter,” the Trump adviser said. “They were all bad candidates,” the adviser continued, critiquing many of Trump’s handpicked contenders in key battleground states.

Trump clones minus the messianic auras equal unelectable buffoons.

Trump plus the messianic aura equal an electable but even bigger buffoon.

that's so trump: pumped up those candidates in the run-up, "we have the best, the best people", etc etc etc and then cuts them loose like an anchor the second they fail - in his name.  because trump can only win, right?  if he doesn't, then it's someone else's fault...

Speaking of unelectable buffoons: Dan Cox:  “While we always felt it might be a close race, the outcome was a complete surprise.”
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #266 on: November 09, 2022, 04:42:59 pm »
Trump is just going to blame McConnell and McCarthy if things go bad.

But, yeah, regardless of final numbers a bad night for Trump. Got to wonder if the party will continue to suck up to and coddle him. Also have to ask if Trump fever may have broken.

Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #267 on: November 09, 2022, 04:59:10 pm »
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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #268 on: November 09, 2022, 11:13:44 pm »
Boebert down by about 70 votes right now

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Re: 2022 - dems in disarray thread
« Reply #269 on: November 09, 2022, 11:58:27 pm »
Clusterfuck in Maricopa