The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024

[hutch]

I mean it’s opinion on many of the keys.  On what planet does Trump not have “charisma “, for example???

[kosmo vinyl]

Not that it will make much of a difference but "October Surprise" for Hogan just dropped.

New: Nearly 40% of all affordable housing awards Larry Hogan approved as governor went to listed clients of his real estate firm, from which he did not divest. Hogan is the first governor in MD history to have made millions of dollars while in office.

https://time.com/7081664/exclusive-as-governor-larry-hogan-approved-millions-in-awards-to-his-firms-clients/

[hutch]

Hogan was always going to lose I guess


Funny how he is one of the “good republicans “

[Bagley]

Not that it will make much of a difference but "October Surprise" for Hogan just dropped.

New: Nearly 40% of all affordable housing awards Larry Hogan approved as governor went to listed clients of his real estate firm, from which he did not divest. Hogan is the first governor in MD history to have made millions of dollars while in office.

https://time.com/7081664/exclusive-as-governor-larry-hogan-approved-millions-in-awards-to-his-firms-clients/

debate fodder for tonight?

[hutch]

I guess it’s on the bag for democrats…why bother campaigning

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-outpaces-harris-walz-campaign-events-run-final/story?id=113932634

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isn't it "in the bag"?

so you complained that Harris wasn't doing enough press/events  Then she did 14 and you are not happy because she's not doing as many as trump

[hutch]

Yeah that’s right…compared to Trump/Vance the D’s are hardly working. Why are they waiting to get Obama out there? It’s GO time. We have ten days to turn this around or we are toast.

We have run a terribly conservative campaign. Having a beer on tv is great but why isn’t she doing campaign events every day? Why not do press conferences regularly? Why not announce plans to tackle concerns. Why can’t she say she would do anything different from Biden?

It’s amateur hour.

I am not saying anything James Carbille isn’t

Trump is opening up a lead on Harris.

The surprising thing is former Obama campaign people are in Harris camp. By this point in the campaign Obama would have gone hoarse from so many events.

[hutch]

People just don’t like to hear it but Trump pretty much has this in the bag and democrats are just sitting around saying don’t believe the polls.

[nkotb]

What are you talking about?!?!!  She's made the differences pretty clear!  She'll put Republicans in our EDIT: her cabinet and (somehow!) get more right wing at the border! It's like night and day with these two!!!

Why can’t she say she would do anything different from Biden?

[hutch]

She would put ONE Republican! God what a difference

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its all about the swing states and GOTV...I don't think there is anything that can't be more important than that

MI, WI are looking better than before
PA...yikes, that's going to be our albatross and fans of Josh will be like 'I told you so'

I was thinking we might get NC after that black nazi thing, maybe Helene will have an impact?

[hutch]

MI looking better??

I go by RCP not Nate Silver. Trump is up in six of seven and only trails in WI which notoriously has polls overstating D performance. Biden was leading by 7 last time and won by a whisker.

You have to learn to read polls. There has been a clear movement towards Trump in the past week.

The last two presidential election cycles have understated Trump support.

Trump is outperforming 2020 polls (at this point in campaign ) nationally by 8 points and in swing states 4.5 points.

Trump is up nearly 10 points in betting markets.

[nkotb]

All kidding aside, I'm with hutch on this one.  After Biden died on stage, there was no coming back obviously.  But man, to have that kind of enthusiasm out of the gate and then shit a lot of it away by immediately taking a hard right is so insane. 

Dems took the distaste for Biden as just "he's senile and old" and not the correct view of "he's senile and old and sucks" and boy, did that excitement plummet.  I mean, she couldn't even PRETEND she was going for the youth vote...it was Republican-lite the second she got the nom.  And Biden isn't doing her any favors with his response to WWIII popping off.

I mean, who knows, right?  It's still a bit away.

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You would think this kind of economic news would be good for Dems
https://x.com/carlquintanilla/status/1844381747599061046

I am concerned that NKOTB and hutch are agreeing
Is that one of the 4 horsemen?


Also I did look at RCP and Harris seems to be doing well
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris


But the betting odds don’t look great
https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

I just think the gambling crowd leans maga hard… so that’s has to have an impact

[hutch]

You look at today’s polls and tell me you feel good? What drug are you on?