The Armageddon Election 2024 Or Apocalypse 2024

[hutch]

Lots of stories about the dearth of good polling. Lots of republican polls out there.

[grateful]

Whenever anyone asks Trump about climate change, he always goes off on clean air and clean water, which has nothing to do with climate change. He diverts to some specious claims about his strong environmental policy (which I think have been debunked). Why does nobody call him out on this and double down on the climate change question?

[Cock Van Der Palm]

Would it really matter?  Does anything that resembles sanity really matter with that POS?

Whenever anyone asks Trump about climate change, he always goes off on clean air and clean water, which has nothing to do with climate change. He diverts to some specious claims about his strong environmental policy (which I think have been debunked). Why does nobody call him out on this and double down on the climate change question?

[day of love-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

Would it really matter?

It would not, in fact they like it more that it might cause liberal tears

[sweetcell]

Whenever anyone asks Trump about climate change, he always goes off on clean air and clean water, which has nothing to do with climate change.

he also tends to bring up windmills

[day of love-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

@mattyglesais

What if the October Surprise is sober, factual coverage of the Trump policy agenda?

[hutch]

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/22/kamala-harris-reassure-voters-liberal-00184879

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/22/harris-working-class-voters-poll-election

What I been saying for months. Give people something to vote for.

[day of love-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

^ouch

Why voters aren’t responding to messages like these is anyone’s guess, though the fable of the boy who cried wolf comes to mind. Trump was already president. And while Democrats warned about the danger he posed to democracy, we did actually have an election to get rid of him. Remember, the moral of the fable isn’t that, in the end, there wasn’t a wolf. It’s that no one believed the boy.

[nkotb]

I'm sure it's not helping to talk breathlessly about what a threat Republicans are to democracy and then to welcome a guy that actually did steal an election into your camp with open arms.

At the end of the day, I don't think this should be a surprise:

^ouch

Why voters aren’t responding to messages like these is anyone’s guess.

January 6 doesn't impact most people's daily life or their material conditions.  A vague thread of "end of democracy" is an intangible when you're struggling to put food on the table or have insurmountable medical debt. 

[evilizac]

America's in its vote for the axe era.
Got people who may or may not have family, friends, loved ones who came here under murky legal circumstances.
Some maybe still with statuses up in the air. Those people "just can't see" voting for Harris. "I mean, have you seen the cost of x" or "look at all the crime on this crime tracker app". "I like money". The fuck.

[hutch]

Hope the raging Cajun is right

https://dnyuz.com/2024/10/23/james-carville-three-reasons-im-certain-kamala-harris-will-win/

[Justin Tonation]

[hutch]

The nazi comparisons are execrable.

Calling him a wanna be dictator seems more appropriate. If you want to call him a fascist ok but nazi? They gassed millions upon millions of people. Let’s not minimize that by comparing them to Trump!

I mean maybe these ridiculous comparisons are why so many Americans  might believe Hitler wasn’t all that bad…

[Justin Tonation]

If the Nazis had been stopped before they committed genocide, they still would have been among the worst people of the 20th Century. Emulating Nazis before the Holocaust is still acting like Nazis.

[hutch]

If the Nazis had been stopped before they committed genocide, they still would have been among the worst people of the 20th Century. Emulating Nazis before the Holocaust is still acting like Nazis.

Among the worst people?

Sorry to break it to you but there is a lot of competition for worst people of the 20th century!