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HoyaSaxa03

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New Foo Fighters
« on: June 15, 2005, 09:55:00 am »
What's this technology that's being used on the new Foo Fighters album?  My friend bought it yesterday and said he can't rip it to MP3 or play it on his computer.  I looked on allmusic and found this:
 
 [In Your Honor was released in two editions: a copy-protected CD that will not play on your computer without installing a separate media player, and a DualDisc, containing a CD on one side and a DVD on the other. The DualDisc has a 5.1 mix version of the album on the DVD side, along with a very informative and entertaining documentary about the making of the album, tracing it from pre-production through the construction of a studio and to the recording of the two albums. The CD side of the DualDisc would not register on this reviewer's computer, although it did play on a CD player.]
 
 does this mean it's impossible to rip this into MP3s?  there must be an easy way around this, like everything else ...
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Re: New Foo Fighters
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2005, 10:11:00 am »
Take it back to the store.  Demand your money back.

HoyaSaxa03

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Re: New Foo Fighters
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2005, 10:14:00 am »
wow, i would be really fucking pissed if i was a foo fighters fan ... no respect at all ...
 
 what's really funny, is that on the band's OFFICIAL message board, the admins are posting ways around the copy protection:
 
 http://www.foofighters.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=8335
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Re: New Foo Fighters
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2005, 10:20:00 am »
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Originally posted by ggw?:
  Take it back to the store.  Demand your money back.
or vandalize the store

HoyaSaxa03

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Re: New Foo Fighters
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2005, 10:25:00 am »
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Re: New Foo Fighters
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2005, 10:38:00 am »
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Like I said, take it back to the store.
 
 If they (Sony, EMI, whoever) are going to be dicks about it and make you jump through hoops just to use their product, and a dozen more hoops to put it on your iPod, then you should refuse to buy the record.

HoyaSaxa03

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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2005, 10:46:00 am »
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  If they (Sony, EMI, whoever) are going to be dicks about it and make you jump through hoops just to use their product, and a dozen more hoops to put it on your iPod, then you should refuse to buy the record.
i agree 100% ... do you think the band knew this was happening to their album?  seems like a really dick move to pull on their fans, and i'm sure they're not making any new friends with it.
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2005, 10:48:00 am »
The Dead 60's CD requires you to load software to listen to it on a PC... So much for being "punk"  
 
 Who else is sick of seeing this plastered all over thier CDs.
 
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 On one CD I counted four seperate warnings about piracy.  The irony of the situation is that of that last batch of CDs I got the ones enjoyed most were the ones without this seal and on indie labels. Nic Armstrong (NewWest Records) and Maximo Park (Warp).
 
 Does this type of copy protection work against a standalone CD Burner?  Silly silly record exec... Has the cost of cocaine and hookers gone up again?
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2005, 11:08:00 am »
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
   
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Originally posted by ggw?:
  If they (Sony, EMI, whoever) are going to be dicks about it and make you jump through hoops just to use their product, and a dozen more hoops to put it on your iPod, then you should refuse to buy the record.
i agree 100%[/b]
I agree too...I understand the desire to thwart illegal copying and sharing, but I bought it and I want it on my goddamn iPod.  Blech.
 
 That said, I just ordered the "dual disc" from Tower Records so I can get the DVD...

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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2005, 11:30:00 am »
note the last paragraph ... d'oh!
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 Two Platters, Few Tasty Morsels From Foo Fighters
 
 By Sean Daly
 Special to The Washington Post
 Wednesday, June 15, 2005; Page C01
 
 Young, restless rock star Dave Grohl must feel a whole lot older than his 36 years. Raised in the Washington area, the well-worn talent has already amassed a whirlwind résumé: former drummer for genre-defining grungers Nirvana, current front man for best-selling pop-rockers the Foo Fighters, maniac behind speed-metal project Probot, prolific special-guest drummer for such big, bad bands as Queens of the Stone Age and Nine Inch Nails.
 
 Then there's his Ozzyload of personal travails: dealing with Kurt Cobain's death, Kurt Cobain's widow and, to some extent, Kurt Cobain's looming legacy -- even though Grohl has proven just as talented as the accursed Bard of Seattle. (Save your stamps, flannel flock. You know it's true.)
 
 The Foo Fighters -- whose fifth album, "In Your Honor," was released yesterday -- have gone through all manner of rocky lineup changes. Still, the band has been good therapy for the foremost Foo, who has shared his life on a cocky post-Nirvana debut, a pop-based follow-up, a high-concept third outing and a fourth album devoted to bad love.
 
 Grohl even invented a profitable new sound along the way, smoothly blending grunge's anger with sleek, clean choruses that shine like SoCal sunsets.
 
 So with all that history, and with all those rock-star cliches under his belt, what's a Foo to do to keep things interesting?
 
 Why, make a big, bloated double album, of course, with 10 tracks devoted to rage and rumble, and another 10 of whispery, acoustic-based ballads. A celebration of the band's 10th anniversary -- drummer Taylor Hawkins, guitarist Chris Shiflett and bassist Nate Mendel complete the quartet -- this is the album that will forever divide Foo fans into Those Who Liked "In Your Honor" and Those Who Returned "In Your Honor" And Used the Money to Buy Another Back Tattoo.
 
 Grohl has said "In Your Honor" is a gift to his fans, an outpouring of his cumulative thoughts and emotions. The disappointing truth, however, is that despite the twin-platter presentation, the album often sounds uninspired. For the first time, Grohl just doesn't have that much to say: The songs are Matchbox 20 deep at best. Imagine a Foo Fighters album without the window-smashing highs and a lot fewer singalongs. It's not bad -- but it ain't all that great, either.
 
 You could even say that Grohl has already made this album, and he did it much better the first time. The phenomenal "There Is Nothing Left to Lose" (1999) was a conceptual travelogue as Grohl and Co. lambasted the phoniness of Los Angeles with a handful of ferocious slapshots then "musically" moved across the country to Virginia, where the honesty and realness of the Old Dominion was celebrated with tingly alt-country charmers.
 
 Not only was it a smart idea, but almost all of the songs were endlessly catchy and radio dynamite. "In Your Honor" also addresses Grohl's split personality, but here there's no genuine emotion -- on the hard songs or the soft -- and most of those glorious hooks have gone missing.
 
 Before getting lost in a loud, lackluster drone of chugga-chugga power chords and ho-hum aggression, Disc 1 holds a few fine moments. The title track gets hard, harder, hardest, with Grohl's underrated voice unleashing that trademark two-step of throat-scraping rebel yells and Beach Boys-style sunniness. "No Way Back" and "Best of You" sound like surly leftovers from 2002's breakup disc "One by One," with Grohl going from solemn to Satanic in seconds, and Hawkins -- think the Muppets' Animal in human form -- flailing away with a sinister sense of rhythm. The album's best cut, "DOA," is an apocalyptic mosh of "we're doomed" lyrics -- "It's a shame we have to die my dear / No one's getting out of here alive" -- and an out-of-nowhere chorus that you could surf, too.
 
 A few synthy swirls and prickly guitar work appear here and there on the perilously mellow Disc 2, but there just aren't enough twists to keep the pretty approach from becoming pretty dull. Opening song "Still" ("If you'd like to walk awhile / We could waste a day") stands out as the best tune on the soft side, but perhaps that's because I listened to the discs back-to-back and my ears were thankful for the rest. And "What If I Do" has an easy-breezy campfire charm and a wistful vibe.
 
 Significant ballyhoo has surrounded jazz-folkstress Norah Jones's cameo on "In Your Honor," but her duet with Grohl, "Virginia Moon," will no doubt induce cringes back at the Foo Fan Club. Sure, she knows her slinky way around a bossa nova, but Grohl sounds like a hobo who wandered in off the street.
 
 Album closer "Razor" starts off as a classical gas, as Grohl and Queens of the Stone Age's Josh Homme trade fluttery guitar parts back and forth. But then the lyrics kick in -- "Sweet and divine / Razor of mine" -- and things go bad-teen-poetry in a hurry.
 
 If you take both discs and do a little iPod paring, there's a nice mix to be had here. Taken as a massive whole, however, "In Your Honor" gives Grohl a dubious new entry on his otherwise impressive résumé: "career disappointment."

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Re: New Foo Fighters
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2005, 11:45:00 am »
Hoya, what are they saying on the Foo bulletin board?  I can't get in (I'm a member...), I keep getting:
 
 There seems to have been a slight problem with the database.
 Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser.
 
 An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also contact if the problem persists.
 
 We apologise for any inconvenience.

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Re: New Foo Fighters
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2005, 11:47:00 am »
Anybody know if it will rip on a Mac? I've purchased several copy-protected discs before and I've been able to rip them on my Mac every time. It seems the CD copy protection that I've encountered so far has only worked on Windows. I'm just wondering if the Foo Fighters disc uses the same kind of copy protection.
 
 The Foo Fighters forum appears to be down.... Pissed off fans who can't rip their CDs?

HoyaSaxa03

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Re: New Foo Fighters
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2005, 11:54:00 am »
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Originally posted by Bags:
  Hoya, what are they saying on the Foo bulletin board?  I can't get in (I'm a member...), I keep getting:
 
 There seems to have been a slight problem with the database.
 Please try again by pressing the refresh button in your browser.
 
 An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, who you can also contact if the problem persists.
 
 We apologise for any inconvenience.
I'm getting the same message ... i assume they're being swamped with a) normally big traffic for an album release b) people looking for answers on how to get the album onto their ipod
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Bags

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Re: New Foo Fighters
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2005, 12:05:00 pm »
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 The Foo Fighters forum appears to be down.... Pissed off fans who can't rip their CDs?
I think they're in the midst of re-doing the whole website. You can go to different sections of the website (ie, news, tour, shows), but there's no content there yet. They're certainly redesigning the page to all have the look of "In Your Honour" -- they did the same for "One by One." (A couple days ago the whole website was pretty much blank...)
 
 This should really have been done before the release date of the album, though...

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Re: New Foo Fighters
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2005, 12:07:00 pm »
-edit-  Woops