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vansmack

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« Reply #510 on: April 20, 2010, 04:18:28 pm »
what's fishy to me is that this isn't a forceful C&D, but a polite "hey, can we have that back please?  thanks".

seems way to calm.  knowing apple, i'd expect a lot more offense.

Doing so would alert the world that this is in fact the next iPhone.  Simply asking for the return of something that belongs to Apple leaves it up for speculation.
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« Reply #511 on: April 20, 2010, 04:35:41 pm »
if they wanted to go down that road, just deny its the new iphone
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« Reply #512 on: April 20, 2010, 04:42:39 pm »
if they wanted to go down that road, just deny its the new iphone

But it is the new iPhone.  Speculation is everything and keeps you in the news cycle - kind of the only way to save face for a company that has been as stringent as Apple in the past.  Remember, they sued a 17 year old kid who ran a Mac Rumors web site that was correct a lot of the time.  Greg Powell may have a job today, but he will be quietly released at some point in the next few months.

Anyhow, enough about the games Apple is playing.  Let's talk about how the new phone is really not as cool as the HTC HD2 or the HTC EVO 4G...
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godsshoeshine

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« Reply #513 on: April 20, 2010, 04:50:55 pm »
all i know is i saw matt lauer talk about it this morning and i tried to put on my smackie-apple-is-hitler hat. "its a plant" is where i ended up
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« Reply #514 on: April 20, 2010, 05:07:31 pm »
i wonder if this means that they'll be ramping down 3G production sooner.  if i was in the market for an iphone, the new 4G model would make me hold out until it was released (what's the forecast on that, btw?).  this might have kept the iphone in the news cycle but i suspect it will depress demand for the current model.  inventory clearout, anyone?
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« Reply #515 on: April 20, 2010, 05:16:01 pm »
the new 4G model would make me hold out until it was released (what's the forecast on that, btw?). 

Apple's official word is "summer" for upgrading existing 3GS iPhones (which in the past has coincided with a new phone), and everything else seems to point to a June release for the iPhone 4G/HD or whatever they eventually call the new phone.  I vote for the "Greg Powell Memorial Phone."
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« Reply #516 on: April 20, 2010, 05:23:16 pm »
all i know is i saw matt lauer talk about it this morning and i tried to put on my smackie-apple-is-hitler hat. "its a plant" is where i ended up

I don't like that anaology (the Hitler thing is way too overused), but I'm sturggling to come up with a good comparison.  I'm thinking US Steel in the Andrew Carnegie/JP Morgan/Charles Schwab days.  I'll keep thinking about it.
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« Reply #517 on: April 20, 2010, 05:31:52 pm »
the yinzer in me loves the robber baron analogy. microsoft can be frick
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« Reply #518 on: April 20, 2010, 06:48:08 pm »
When questioned [by a customer] about Apple?s role as moral police in the App Store, Jobs responds that ?we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone.? Better, is what he said next: ?Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.?

Read more: http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/19/steve-jobs-android-porn/#ixzz0lgQJ0Npi

Thanks, Steve, I already did.  But in all seriousness, the guy asked a legit question about censoring and that was the response he got.
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« Reply #519 on: April 20, 2010, 09:45:36 pm »
How is that legal?

It's absolutely not legal in California to sell found property without reasonable attempts to find the owner and turning it over to the police for a period of time (usually around 6 months, but 3 months in some jurisdictions).  The seller is liable for damages, and considering it's Apple, a suit will follow shortly for violation of trade secrets among many other things, I'm sure.
The question was rhetorical; no one needs a law degree to know you can't sell something that doesn't belong to you/buy something you know to be possessed in bad faith.

There was an interesting paragraph in an article earlier saying Freedom of the Press could stop gizmodo from getting into an real trouble tho, because the press is generally allowed to possess stolen "documents" without repercussion. It would be a cool test case though.

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« Reply #520 on: April 21, 2010, 02:19:05 pm »
When questioned [by a customer] about Apple?s role as moral police in the App Store, Jobs responds that ?we do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone.? Better, is what he said next: ?Folks who want porn can buy and [sic] Android phone.?

Read more: http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/19/steve-jobs-android-porn/#ixzz0lgQJ0Npi

Thanks, Steve, I already did.  But in all seriousness, the guy asked a legit question about sensoring and that was the response he got.

too bad your edit didn't fix your spelling error. 

so what if jobs wants to get on a moral high-horse and pontificate. . .as you say, many times, if you don't like the product, don't buy it.  whether android ends up becoming a worthy competitor is what will drive apple's policies.   if they want to be like chick-fil-a and not be open on sunday, and can survive, good for them.  i understand you don't like their command and control mentality, and, you could probably guess, i don't either for probably similar reasons, but if they can do it, and people will still buy their products, that's how it works. 

when a company dictates to the customers what it can have and what it can't have, you're bound to meet resistance and, hopefully, when you have a large enough and vocal enough crowd, the company will listen.  whether or not jobs is so arrogant as to ignore the criticisms is another question.
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« Reply #521 on: April 21, 2010, 05:22:23 pm »
Israeli customs blocks entry of iPads

article contains a classic apple response: "We know that many international customers waiting to buy an iPad will be disappointed by this news, but we hope they will be pleased to learn the reason -- the iPad is a runaway success in the U.S. thus far," the company said in a statement announcing the delay."  oh great.  how comforting.
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« Reply #522 on: April 21, 2010, 06:44:18 pm »

too bad your edit didn't fix your spelling error. 

so what if jobs wants to get on a moral high-horse and pontificate. . .as you say, many times, if you don't like the product, don't buy it.  whether android ends up becoming a worthy competitor is what will drive apple's policies.   if they want to be like chick-fil-a and not be open on sunday, and can survive, good for them.  i understand you don't like their command and control mentality, and, you could probably guess, i don't either for probably similar reasons, but if they can do it, and people will still buy their products, that's how it works. 

when a company dictates to the customers what it can have and what it can't have, you're bound to meet resistance and, hopefully, when you have a large enough and vocal enough crowd, the company will listen.  whether or not jobs is so arrogant as to ignore the criticisms is another question.

If he's so concerned about my moral well being, why doesn't he keep porn off the Mac using consumer filters ala parent filters?  Why does he use "we" when he realy means "I"?  Why not take the camera out of the iPhone to stop sexting?  Why not just be a little bit consistent?

And the biggest question of all - why when someone questions Big Steve about being the ultimate determinant for it?s consumers what content they should be able to receive, does he always result to porn?  This inquiry was about another failure in the app approval system.

I already voted with my dollars decades ago, but that doesn't mean I can't mock him when he makes statements like these.  Jobs can pontificate from his moral high horse all he wants about the devices in his home, but stay the fuck out of mine and everybody elses.
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« Reply #523 on: April 21, 2010, 08:13:28 pm »
And the biggest question of all - why when someone questions Big Steve about being the ultimate determinant for it?s consumers what content they should be able to receive, does he always result to porn? 

Because he has a one track mind. We all now know that he can't multi-task. He had to come up with some kind of way to keep his small mind off of porn so he had them put the brakes on his own devices.

Little Stevie 'Ceasar' Jobs has a small mind, a small cadre of come backs and maybe even something else that is very small.

Gotta say though that those hipstomatic camera photos are pretty damn good. Work brilliantly with online publishing which, of course, is mainly what they are used for. I now would like to have one solely for the quality of their pictures. Are they in the iPhones, as I assume, or what?
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« Reply #524 on: April 22, 2010, 11:02:14 pm »
Still prefer to use Opera over Safari for browsing the forum, however I found out today that one can't start a new topic using it. oh well...
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