forum business

[thatguy]

i think it's utterly ridiculous that many of the regular posters here want to waste their time and energy belittling each other and being generally abusive, but i let it slide because y'all seem to have an understanding.  you are willing participants.
 
 that said, i will not tolerate such treatment of newbies, or anyone outside of your little abusive clique, anymore.  i've been involved in various discussion groups, fora, bulletin boards, and just about everything else available online for about 12 years now.  there are always assholes out there, but there's no reason to let them take over and dominate the tone of the group.  i'm tired of it, and it's going to end.  
 
 keep your negative attitudes, your petty arguments, your elitist prickery, and your music snob bullshit to yourselves.  be assholes to each other all you want, but leave the newbies and others out of it.    
 
 this is a site hosted by and paid for by the club.  when you are on this site, you are  essentially a guest of the club.  any of our patrons or potential patrons are welcome here.  you don't have to be nice to them, but you can no longer be mean to them.  if you wouldn't say it to their face, don't post it.  even better, if you wouldn't say it to my face if i were the one making the comment, don't post it.  if you don't like it, you can go find somewhere else to post.    
 
 to put it simply, if y'all can't play nice, i'm kicking you out of the sandbox.  no warnings.  no joke.  no discussion.

[brennser]

thank you....long overdue

[Barcelona]

This forum has become the most important element in life for some board members.

[muschi]

i hear ya barthelona, i couldnt stand my job without it now!

[challenged]

while i am in favor of the cruelest among us toning it down, there's a fine line between sarcasm and cruelty and its a tough line to police.  perhaps the "enter the forum....make trouble" header should be removed if you/9:30 really don't mean it.

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

For being a large guy with alot of piercings, you sure are a little emofag crybaby. "Waaaaa! Nasty things said about bands that suck!! Heart torn sobbery to follow!!1ONE!"

[sonickteam2]

what i would say to thatguys face, and what i would say to some forumers face are two entirely different things!!!!
 
 generally i dont think i am one of the aforementioned elitist pricks, but arguments DO happen.
 
 and most newbies i pick on i am pretty sure are just here to be condescending assholes anyway
 
  does this mean people have to stop making fun of Thom Yorke now???

[bearman🐻]

I can't believe some of the stuff people have the nerve to write, even if it's supposed to be a joke, sarcastic, or whatever. This exactly why thatguy's post was necessary.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I think it's ridiculous to let a total stranger's comments hurt your feelings. Especially one who has you have never even met in person.
 
 I probably get more insults hurled at me than anyone on this board by people I have never met, and it doesn't bother me one bit. Just proves what assholes the people saying them are. But doesn't hurt my feelings.
 
 That's my 3 cents.

[muschi]

i could be wrong but the guy's point is that u guys r smothering the board's creativity? potential? whatever... by your domination of it. when someone new comes along u pounce on them like mouse entering the lions den and u r the lions. its his board and u guys r killing it a bit. respect his board, is all he's asking, not too much to ask in return for the board's use. i also think the bickering he's referring is true. u guys bicker nonsensically quoting and requoting on and on back and forth about stuff that is of little interest to anyone [the larger 930 community] but yourselves and #2 its hard to follow for a newbie so they probably click off. and some better thought out stuff like ive put together that most of u love me for [sarcasm] might be a nice idea other than little lazy-ass 1-2 sentence personal attacks like a 13 year old that amount to name-calling.

[Arlette]

Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
  I think it's ridiculous to let a total stranger's comments hurt your feelings. Especially one who has you have never even met in person.

Well, good for you, but not everyone is made of Teflon.  I think it's ridiculous to like alt-country, does that make me right?  No, it's my opinion.  Your opinion is that what is said on message board should be taken with a grain of salt.  And generally I agree.  But sometimes, the things said on this board are truly  mean-spirited and not everyone can be as tough or quick-witted or sarcastic as you (and others).  
 
 

Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
 
 I probably get more insults hurled at me than anyone on this board by people I have never met, and it doesn't bother me one bit. Just proves what assholes the people saying them are. But doesn't hurt my feelings.
 
 That's my 3 cents.

And it's also not always about hurt feelings.  New people come here looking for info or to be part of a community.  Maybe they don't get hurt feelings, but they might not come back because it was so unwelcoming.  Isn't it better to have a lot of people with different opinions and different personalities?  If no, if you want only people who are as tough as nails or who are fast with a quip/insult, then gather them up and start your own forum.  
 
 Look, I think what thatguy is saying is just don't (all of us) lash out at newbies so quickly.  Give 'em a break. Would that truly be that difficult for some people here?

[sonickteam2]

i think some people are taking thatguys post a little too seriously, in that, i dont think he wants an end to all bickering, and i dont think he wants us to only speak about topics that the majority of people are interested in.
 
  but it is true that when someone starts a topic called "Fantasy hockey" or "the killers" it is kind of rude or lame to butt in and hijack the thread with something completely rude and unrelated.
 
   if you cant follow along with a thread, read a different one, but dont just butt in with some nonsense.....not that i never do that i guess
 
 am i off base on this here?

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by muschi:
  i could be wrong but the guy's point is that u guys r smothering the board's creativity? potential? whatever... by your domination of it. when someone new comes along u pounce on them like mouse entering the lions den and u r the lions. its his board and u guys r killing it a bit. respect his board, is all he's asking, not too much to ask in return for the board's use. i also think the bickering he's referring is true. u guys bicker nonsensically quoting and requoting on and on back and forth about stuff that is of little interest to anyone [the larger 930 community] but yourselves and #2 its hard to follow for a newbie so they probably click off. and some better thought out stuff like ive put together that most of u love me for [sarcasm] might be a nice idea other than little lazy-ass 1-2 sentence personal attacks like a 13 year old that amount to name-calling.

but it IS annoying when someone jumps on the board and immediately lashes out at others, like YOU did.  the first post i read from you was no better than any of Rhetts.

[thatguy]

challenged:
 i don't have a problem with a little rabble rousing here and there, but i hardly think that "make trouble" is a blanket statement that gives permission to be abusive to complete strangers.
 
 wayne:
 call me whatever you want.  i really don't care.  what i am is one of the people held responsible for this forum.  in that capacity, i am occasionally required to do something like this, to nudge the forum back to where it needs to be.  i am very hands off in general, but when it goes too far, i will step in.
 
 ms. l.a.:
 how do you know that the newbie isn't someone bigger, scarier, and meaner than me?  you never know, do you?  look at it this way: if a comment is not acceptable for general conversation in mixed company, then maybe you shouldn't be posting it.
 
 xavier:
 it's not about hurt feelings.  it's about the atmosphere that has come to dominate this forum.  i think it's ridiculous to make such comments about/to perfect strangers, but it happens with great regularity.
 
 muschi:
 you are on the right path.  this forum serves as a part of our website where people new to the club and scenesters from the olden days can all come for information and discussion.  sometimes a person is just going to come in and ask a question and leave once they have their answer.  sometimes that person might stick around, and become a regular contributor to the forum.  if someone jumps down their throat because they think the band being asked about sucks, or because the question has been asked before, or just because they felt like being an asshole, and they are scared off, then the forum has not served its purpose.  the nightclub 9:30 has a stellar reputation, and i'm not gonna let some interweb blowhards damage it.  
 
 what i'm looking for here:
 i want this forum to be a place where the regulars can have their interactions, bickering, and off topic whatever AND a place where folks that are new to the board or the club can come and find information and discussion without being mocked, derided, or in any way mistreated.
 
 if someone asks a question and you don't have the answer, don't respond.  if someone posts because they are excited that a band they like is coming to the club, don't belittle them and their taste in music.  if someone posts the same request that 50 other people have posted already, just ignore it.  if a discussion is taking place about a subject that doesn't interest you, don't try to hijack the thread.  ignore it and start a new one.  these things really aren't that complicated, folks.  
 
 there is no need to treat newbies the way they have been treated lately.  it is unacceptable, and will no longer be tolerated.  as i said before, insult the people that are ok with it.  be bitter, and nasty, and mean spirited with your own kind.  just leave the rest of us out of it.  if you don't like it, i'll gladly show you the door.

[Frank Gallagher]

With everyone changing user names more often than their underwear I don't even know who's a newbie and who isn't so consider myself an equal opportunity abuser.
 
 And for the record.....Thatguys initial post I found rather abusive.