Clash vs. Ramones vs. Sex Pistols

[markie]

Originally posted by bearman:
   kick-started punk in England.

But kick-starting punk in England made punk famous. Without the English punks the whole scene might never have acheived  infamy.

[kosmo vinyl]

The Buzzcocks can lay claim to being infleuntial on the "punk" of today.... Less political than The Clash, Less image oriented than the Sex Pistols, more personal angst,  however exceedingly more clever than most thats followed them.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I'll bet you were barely alive that weekend.
 
 I was with my mom that weekend. She had entered a painting contest at the Fort Edward Art Center for paintings with a bicentennial theme. My mom had done a painting of an old covered bridge, choosing to go subtle in her theme, and was beaten by a bunch of overly patriotic-themed crap paintings. Still brings a tear to my eye.
 
 

Originally posted by bearman:
  Check back to July 4th weekend, 1976 when the Pistols, Clash, etc. all went to see the Ramones play at the Roundhouse. That's the one event that essentially kick-started punk in England. Though the Damned were technically the first British punk band to release a record (the New Rose 7"), the Ramones were still the ones who disrupted English sensibilities and that's when punk rock took off.

[bearman🐻]

The Sex Pistols were totally about fashion ultimately. They were Malcolm Mclaren's little fantasy since he didn't know how to manage the NY Dolls in their patent red leather phase. He just lucked out that they actually wrote some good songs but ultimately it was a lot of scandal. I can see why Johnny Rotten quit when they did.

[chaz]

Punk is as American as baseball and apple pie.  
 
 'Nuff said.

[bearman🐻]

And the Buzzcocks are still my personal favorite punk band of all time    The Damned would be up there too. But it's hard not to love the Ramones.

[markie]

Originally posted by bearman:
  The Sex Pistols were totally about fashion ultimately. They were Malcolm Mclaren's little fantasy since he didn't know how to manage the NY Dolls in their patent red leather phase. He just lucked out that they actually wrote some good songs but ultimately it was a lot of scandal. I can see why Johnny Rotten quit when they did.

But McLaren put the dolls into their red patent leather phase. It was his idea.
 
  The scandal sold records which mad money and Mclaren rich and famous. Mission Accomplished.
 
 In the mean time the pistols made one great album and made punk famous, giving a leg up to so many other punk and then new-wave bands.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

But Beyonce has told a whole lot more records.
 
 
 

Originally posted by Fine French Chaz:
  Punk is as American as baseball and apple pie.  
 
 'Nuff said.

[you be betty]

ramones are my favorite of the three, in addition to who i feel were most influential.
 
 they really kickstarted the whole movement.  plain and simple.  you don't even have to like them to acknowledge that.
 
 
 plus, look at how many bands today were influenced bare bones by the ramones!  it's a much longer list than any started by the clash or pistols...

[markie]

Originally posted by Fine French Chaz:
  Punk is as American as baseball and apple pie.  
 
 'Nuff said.

Yeah that is right. Do a google image search for punk, you'll never see a union jack.
 
   :roll:

[Bags]

Originally posted by canker-blossom:
  Then again the clash have the best body of work and showed complete mastery of pop music.

I agree...I think the Clash has the best output, but in terms of influence Pistols and Ramones were more singularly important to starting a new scene/genre/mode of playing, appreciating and positioning music and live shows.
 
 Ditto that the Buzzcocks are my fave, though.

[chaz]

Drive By Truckers dude!!  Yee fuckin' ha!!
 

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
  But Beyonce has told a whole lot more records.
 
 
   

Originally posted by Fine French Chaz:
  Punk is as American as baseball and apple pie.  
 
 'Nuff said.

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[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

The Dead Kennedys are my favorite.
 
 

Originally posted by bearman:
  And the Buzzcocks are still my personal favorite punk band of all time     The Damned would be up there too. But it's hard not to love the Ramones.

[markie]

Originally posted by you be betty:
  ramones are my favorite of the three, in addition to who i feel were most influential.
 
 they really kickstarted the whole movement.  plain and simple.  you don't even have to like them to acknowledge that.
 
 
 plus, look at how many bands today were influenced bare bones by the ramones!  it's a much longer list than any started by the clash or pistols...

Sure the ramones, were before the velvet underground and MC5 and Iggy Pop.
   :roll:

[ratioci nation]

clearly the biggest influence on today's punk bands is Green Day!!!!!!!