Clash vs. Ramones vs. Sex Pistols

[markie]

Originally posted by general grievous:
  who the fuck cares, everybody knows america rules

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[chaz]

Punk Rock is for the whole world!  <img src="http://www.hot.ee/ramonestribute/f_39g9.jpg" alt=" - " />

[kosmo vinyl]

the thing is alot of bands in thier early stages could be "punk"... there are some early stones songs which have that "punk" attitude, mixed with a fury and primitive sound.  early garage bands were the "punks" of their time.

[bearman🐻]

Malcolm Mclaren is a twat who ruined punk rock. I wouldn't give him credit for anything. He saw a chance to grab some cash and make a stir, he has no soul and I respect Johnny Rotten for doing the right thing and ending the band when he did.

[markie]

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  well you cant count out how infleuntial Jonathan Richman and Modern Lovers  and T. Rex were on punk...
 
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but most glam people disappeared during punk. It reflects the only non-record releasing time for Bowie for instance....

[ggw]

Originally posted by general grievous:
  who the fuck cares, everybody knows america rules

There was nothing punk about Sister Golden Hair or Horse with No Name

[markie]

Originally posted by bearman:
  Malcolm Mclaren is a twat who ruined punk rock. I wouldn't give him credit for anything. He saw a chance to grab some cash and make a stir, he has no soul and I respect Johnny Rotten for doing the right thing and ending the band when he did.

That is all as maybe. But if it were not for Mclaren there might not have ever been any British punk at all. His trip to N.Y. is probably the most influential act for British music in the entire period.

[bearman🐻]

Ha! Or how about "Ventura Highway"?
 
 What about Seals and Crofts?

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   

Originally posted by general grievous:
  who the fuck cares, everybody knows america rules

There was nothing punk about Sister Golden Hair or Horse with No Name [/b]

Muskrat Love and Tin Man were punk as punk could be though.

[godsshoeshine]

I don't know who started it and I don't give a fuck. The one thing I do know is that we did it harder, we did it faster, and we definitely did it with more love, baby. You can't take that away from us.

[kosmo vinyl]

Originally posted by canker-blossom:
   

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  well you cant count out how infleuntial Jonathan Richman and Modern Lovers  and T. Rex were on punk...
 
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but most glam people disappeared during punk. It reflects the only non-record releasing time for Bowie for instance.... [/b]

Don't you think if Marc Bolan had lived he would have kept in one form or another the Glam flame going?  
 
 But glam was also considered the disposable pop of it's time... never expected to have much of a shelf life.  the thing is it stands the test of time better than say pub-rock or hairmetal

[bearman🐻]

You think that Mclaren was the one who told 2,000 kids to go see the Ramones at the Roundhouse? Everyone thought he was an idiot. Read "England's Dreaming" and you'll see plenty of folks from that time period only went into his store so they could steal from him. He destroyed everything he touched, he didn't give a crap about the music...it was about fashion, trends, and making money. That's just the truth.

[markie]

Originally posted by bearman:
  You think that Mclaren was the one who told 2,000 kids to go see the Ramones at the Roundhouse?  

Did it sell out? I really have no idea how full that show was. But what would have been the draw of the other band(s)?
 
 I do know that the pistols and the clash would not have been there if it were not for Mclaren.

[bearman🐻]

True about the Pistols because he managed them, but not the Clash.

[kosmo vinyl]

as if  malcolm was any different from any other person wanting to make money from the music industry...