snow patrol

[beedubyah]

Originally posted by Fico:
 
 
 Also, its not the opera...stop whining so fookin much about the people who attend shows and how they act...

Amen to that...And Ive always wondered why everyone gets so riled up when people wear baseball hats.  Thats something I dont understand.
 
 Well Im here I guess...Really enjoyed the show.  Much preferred this over the Doves.  I think it was the strength of the songs that put them over.  Lead singer had a great voice, though he was bordering on talking too much if anything.  I was pleasantly surprised after that pivotal moment before the singer opens his mouth which can normally tell me in an instant what kind of show its going to be.  Impressed...
 
 What was the last song before the encore?  Was one of the stronger songs of the set I thought.
 
 Overall, I give it an 8.  Theyre definitely of the Coldplay genre (which is not a cut at all), but they do have a bit more rock in their set than your typical "bed-wetting" british act.  Saying that, after Doves and Snow Patrol, Im definitely ready to see some real rock.  
 
 Killers and Oasis in June oughta do it.

[Arlette]

Originally posted by Fico:
  Couple of things I'd like to point out...they are not selling t-shirts at top $$s cos' they would otherwise loose on the exchange rate..let me put it this way..my band just made t-shirts and we are turning a very good profit selling them for $10. And we only made 40!!! if they make...oh 500-1000 shirts, you can bet your bollocks to the barn dance that of the $28 they are making a profit of AT LEAST $25.50
 

Fico, they are making a nice profit, of course.  But some things people don't consider in merch sales:
 
 - shipping costs.  Just getting a big shipment of shirts to the original destination costs a pretty penny.
 
 - the venue takes a 20% cut on merch and 10% on CD's. For every $28.00 t-shirt they sell, the 9:30 takes $5.60.  This is true of virtually every venue (pecentages may change on different levels, but this is a rule of thumb.)
 
 - touring bands have to pay an on-the-road merch person.
 
 Like I said, they are making a tidy profit, I am sure.  Hell, some bands survive on merch sales alone.  But the profit is not near $25.50.

[kosmo vinyl]

sorry to disappoint ya, but the real rock has already happened... in came in the form of Gang of Four.

[brennser]

they are not selling t-shirts at top $$s cos' they would otherwise loose on the exchange rate

how do you know?
 
 I don't care how much Cartel t-shirts cost - the shirts for these brit bands are most likely bought and paid for in either sterling or euro
 
 if they, to use the BSP example are selling em for 11 pounds in the UK and they cost 2 pounds they're making 9 on every shirt
 
 when they come over to the states they still want to make 9 pounds on every t-shirt - guess what 9 pounds is $18 bucks? - throw in the 9.30 cut and you get to $25 fairly quickly

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by beedubyah:
  Im definitely ready to see some real rock.  
 
 Killers and Oasis in June oughta do it.

thanks, needed a good laugh  
 
 j/k  

[beedubyah]

Originally posted by general grievous:
   

Originally posted by beedubyah:
  Im definitely ready to see some real rock.  
 
 Killers and Oasis in June oughta do it.

thanks, needed a good laugh  
 
 j/k    [/b]

surprised that only took 11 minutes.

[Tom Servo]

Good show.  Solid tunes and good energy from Snow Patrol.  I liked the new songs they played, it sounds like they�??ve been working on them for a while.  Nice lights.  The last song before the encore absolutely rocked.  Didn�??t know they had it in them.  And mockery be damned, I like Run.  It�??s straight OC-style, but someone�??s got to do it.      
 
 I couldn�??t get into Athlete at all.  They played fine, and I liked their honest songs and crowd banter, but if you think Snow Patrol is vanilla you need an even blander flavor of ice cream to describe Athlete.  They had exactly 45 seconds of vitality, when they impressively pulled out the melodica and the theremin.  The rest of the time, they were playing straight out of �??rhythm section for dummies, volume 1.�?�    
 
 More moms and dads than I�??ve seen at the club in a while.  The crowd around me wasn�??t too bad.  Above average yapping perhaps.  I want to say that the audience is more likely to yap when they are waiting for a band�??s hit singles but it seemed pretty constant.  
 
 And apparently I look like one of the DJs, according to a couple of girls who walked past me.  That�??s gotta be worth something for my club cred.

[LRHippo]

Originally posted by Fico:
  Also, its not the opera...stop whining so fookin much about the people who attend shows and how they act...

You are correct, it's not the opera. But I don't think anyone is asking for complete silence. It seems clear that you were not around this group of people. You litteraly could not hear the music they were screaming so loud to each other trying to have a conversation. The would leave 2 or 3 at a time then force their way back to their original position with no regard to those around them, only to scream to each other again. They weren't fans of the band, so I ask again, why are they there? Go to the bar downstairs if you just wanna drink and have fun with your friends.

[brennser]

hear, hear....
 
 ....Fico was nowhere near these folks, although I will say that if he had managed to be near these people while playing bass for Cartel backstage at the Cat simultaneously, then I would be truly impressed!
 
 

Originally posted by BrnAgnTaper:
   

Originally posted by Fico:
  Also, its not the opera...stop whining so fookin much about the people who attend shows and how they act...

You are correct, it's not the opera. But I don't think anyone is asking for complete silence. It seems clear that you were not around this group of people. You litteraly could not hear the music they were screaming so loud to each other trying to have a conversation. The would leave 2 or 3 at a time then force their way back to their original position with no regard to those around them, only to scream to each other again. They weren't fans of the band, so I ask again, why are they there? Go to the bar downstairs if you just wanna drink and have fun with your friends. [/b]

[Fico]

I wasn't at the show...but I go to most of the shows the regulars here go and I find that its just the way shows are..aside from Sigur Ros..is it worse some times than others..but its the way it is...I'll prolly get bashed for saying this but sometimes you guys act like the angry black guy who is just waiting for the white person to look his way or say something he doesn't like to get his hissyfit done...I wear baseball caps, i've taken pictures with cameraphones, I've turned to the person next to me to comment..I don't see how that takes away from the concert experience...and here is something you may not know..when bands are onstage 95% you don't get to see the crowd cos it's dark as hell...and while you are playing you don't really hear the crowd..and when you are using in-ear-monitors (as most bands nowaday do) you don't hear anything from the crowd pretty much...
 
 And those cuts Arlette claims 9:30 claims gets from band merch sounds awfully suspicious to me...I don't believe it to be true at all...it certainly isn't the case of other clubs I've played...

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Fico:
  And those cuts Arlette claims 9:30 claims gets from band merch sounds awfully suspicious to me...I don't believe it to be true at all...it certainly isn't the case of other clubs I've played...

my friend played 930 a year ago or so and his band got in a dispute with the club about merch cuts and who could sell the merch ... i dont remember all the details, but i think the club had a designated guy to staph the merch booth and they couldn't use their usual merch guy and they took a pretty hefty cut
 
 it was a while ago though, i could be wrong on the details of it all ...

[chancegardener]

Yup it was pretty much a smoke-fest over where I was, near the left-side bar on the floor. No need to smoke my own cigs thats fer sure. SP were pretty good, but definitely not the future of rock'n'roll. I agree with the posting that a genuinely great rock band made an appearance just last Friday night (Gang of Four).  But Gof4 had their moment (and squandered it in about 1985) and who knows if they'll come up with anything good and new. As for SP, yeah the album is good, and there are some catchy songs, but the songs do all sound alike for the most part, and the singer's voice, while distinctive, stays basically in one narrow range, which of course makes all the songs sound alike. Maybe in future years they'll come up with some music really worth latching on to, but for now, they are this year's Travis.

[Fico]

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
   

Originally posted by Fico:
  And those cuts Arlette claims 9:30 claims gets from band merch sounds awfully suspicious to me...I don't believe it to be true at all...it certainly isn't the case of other clubs I've played...

my friend played 930 a year ago or so and his band got in a dispute with the club about merch cuts and who could sell the merch ... i dont remember all the details, but i think the club had a designated guy to staph the merch booth and they couldn't use their usual merch guy and they took a pretty hefty cut
 
 it was a while ago though, i could be wrong on the details of it all ... [/b]

It may very well be the case then...still the margins seem a bit steep to me...

[Arlette]

Originally posted by Fico:
   

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
   

Originally posted by Fico:
  And those cuts Arlette claims 9:30 claims gets from band merch sounds awfully suspicious to me...I don't believe it to be true at all...it certainly isn't the case of other clubs I've played...

my friend played 930 a year ago or so and his band got in a dispute with the club about merch cuts and who could sell the merch ... i dont remember all the details, but i think the club had a designated guy to staph the merch booth and they couldn't use their usual merch guy and they took a pretty hefty cut
 
 it was a while ago though, i could be wrong on the details of it all ... [/b]

It may very well be the case then...still the margins seem a bit steep to me... [/b]

It's true.  80/20 merch, 90/10 music. Artist/Venue percentage split.  That's the way it's written in the contracts. I used to manage a club and we'd at least let the band use their own merch person to sell their stuff.  9:30 mandates that their own staff do it. They do a count in, have inventory sheets, do a count out with the band merch person, etc.  It's a big sum of money, they take it seriously.  Lots of clubs this size do.

[kosmo vinyl]

loads of generalizations are made about baseball hat wearers, etc.  making the odd comment to a friend or using a cameraphone in moderation is fine and something plenty of people do during a show.  however, it's the ones who are acting like they are a some trendy nightspot with loud house music blaring or constantly using the cellphonecamera who are ones being rude. at the secret machine show at the black cat some guy had his phone up in the air for the entire set which distracted me from otherwise enjoying the show.  it's great if one needs a pictorial souvenir of three guys obscured by the stage lights, but isn't one enough?
 
  moderation, common sense, manners seem to be forgein concepts to some folks, who ruin it for all.