the Penguins are STILL gonna suck

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  that's why i love this forum ... practical solutions to my every-day problems ... muchas gracias ...

Any ideas on what I should eat for lunch? [/b]

duh. beer hat with straws.

[Shadrach]

http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/analysis/news?slug=rotowire-ozeftumpelnenguinsut&prov=rotowire&type=lgns&league=nhl

[sonickteam2]

thanks for getting this back on topic!

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  that's why i love this forum ...  

i thought you liked it cause no one can smack the shit out of you when you say ridiculous things and act like a twerp?

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Shadrach:
  http://fantasysports.yahoo.com/analysis/news?slug=rotowire-ozeftumpelnenguinsut&prov=rotowire&type=lgns&league=nhl

He likes Ziggy that much huh?

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
 
 there are an average of 125 "plays" in each football game, so 250 plays called including offense and defense on each play ... each of those plays involve more "strategy" (which, if you understand the definition, is quantifiable) than every other sport

so. . here's a question then. . .if there are, say, 235 pitches thrown in a baseball game, does each pitch qualify as a "strategy"?  and what about the strategy of the batter facing those pitches??
 
 sorry, but saying that because football has more plays called than, supposedly, every other sport and is therefore more strategic is just foolish.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  so. . here's a question then. . .if there are, say, 235 pitches thrown in a baseball game, does each pitch qualify as a "strategy"?  and what about the strategy of the batter facing those

i don't have any stats off the top of my head, but i would venture to guess that there are more pitches thrown in an average game, but that there is less strategy going on in directing the movements and responsibilities of the 10 people on the field for the single pitch than there is in a single play on the football field ... the reason for this is that many pitches the strategy will simply be much the same as the previous pitch (outfield shifted to the right, infield in, 2 outs, play's at 3rd, etc)
 
 

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
 sorry, but saying that because football has more plays called than, supposedly, every other sport and is therefore more strategic is just foolish.

i'd rather not further belabor the point, but my argument was not centered around the fact that football has more plays called than other sports, therefore has more strategy ... i was simply pointing out the sheer volume of intricate discrete strategies employed in each game

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
   my argument was not centered around the fact that football has more plays called than other sports, therefore has more strategy  

oh my god!!!! it was like the ENTIRE substance of 3/4 of your posts here!!!!
 
                   :eek:  
 
   you need a beer dude, you've been working too hard this week!!!!

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  i don't have any stats off the top of my head,  

hahahahahahah

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
  oh my god!!!! it was like the ENTIRE substance of 3/4 of your posts here!!!!
 

man, you sure like to create these exaggerated versions of the truth on here for yourself, don't you?
 
 guess it works for some folks ...

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Yea, to be fair, it was really only one small facet of Hoya's argument. To also be fair, it was a flawed facet and a convoluted, distorted argument, but still.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  so. . here's a question then. . .if there are, say, 235 pitches thrown in a baseball game, does each pitch qualify as a "strategy"?  and what about the strategy of the batter facing those pitches??

Don't forget throwing to bases with runners on.  Those count as a play too, so lets look at about 260.
 
 Yes, in his attempt to quantify strategy, he fell well short.

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
   

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  i don't have any stats off the top of my head,  

hahahahahahah [/b]

sorry for dissapointing sonick, there were an average of 285 pitches per nine-inning game in 2001, i assume it's relatively similar today
 
 http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1118

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  Don't forget throwing to bases with runners on.  Those count as a play too, so lets look at about 260.
 Yes, in his attempt to quantify strategy, he fell well short.

look back at it, I never tried to say that "there are more plays per game in football than there are in baseball, therefore it's more complex", i was just pointing out the sheer # of "set pieces" in american football

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  so. . here's a question then. . .if there are, say, 235 pitches thrown in a baseball game, does each pitch qualify as a "strategy"?  and what about the strategy of the batter facing those

i don't have any stats off the top of my head, but i would venture to guess that there are more pitches thrown in an average game, but that there is less strategy going on in directing the movements and responsibilities of the 10 people on the field for the single pitch than there is in a single play on the football field ... the reason for this is that many pitches the strategy will simply be much the same as the previous pitch (outfield shifted to the right, infield in, 2 outs, play's at 3rd, etc)[/b]

that would, of course, be assuming that there is no one on base, and giving no consideration to who that runner is.  i think you are short-changing baseball strategy simply because there are less moving parts, but there is certainly no less strategy involved.