Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux

[atomic]

I know this is football and your posting on this thread automatically makes you a blockhead, but can you please refrain from using the "c" word?

Stop let your wife control you actions in the world.  You are a man damnit act like it.

[i am gay and i like cats]

oh thats a good one, james.  go have another beer you cunt.

[atomic]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html

Seems the headline of the article is a lie.    When all fans leave at half time they do deserve Snyder and Shanahan. 

This is what Dan Snyder deserves. Not the team, not at all, but Daniel Snyder and Mike Shannahan and his arrogance. Seriously?

People were GIVING away their tickets on my social media feeds. Last week they were going for a whopping $7 on StubHub. Screw them all. It isn't fair weather, when the team loses 5 in a row, it's snowing and raining, you're down by 4 fucking touchdowns at the half, I'd be the first one out the door. Dan Snyder needs to see what he has done. Shannahan and his whole coaching staff SHOULD be booed out of the stadium. Worthless garbage.

It is fair weather fans when it is snowing and your whole stadium is empty.  There are only 8 games a year.  Is it too much to go to all  of them when you have season tickets.  Especially when you pay that much money for them.  

I do think you get overworked up about sports.  I saw you get like this on the Capitals thread.  It doesn't really matter if your team wins or loses it is just entertainment.  I mean it was great that the Ravens won last year but two weeks later it didn't make a difference to me and it certainly means nothing to me now.  I mean even if you are on the team it really shouldn't matter because the team would have no problem you cutting you right after you helped them win the Championship.  

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

What does Dan Snyder hate? Not making money. How doesn't he make money? Whent the stadium fucking clears. Fuck him and fuck the whole organization. They've treated the fans like whores for years and this is what they get. I feel bad for the team, but even they have quit. I've always considered myself a die hard Skins fan, but this is just insanity. The coach doesn't care, the players don't seem to care, what more can we put up with?

People were GIVING away their tickets on my social media feeds. Last week they were going for a whopping $7 on StubHub. Screw them all. It isn't fair weather, when the team loses 5 in a row, it's snowing and raining, you're down by 4 fucking touchdowns at the half, I'd be the first one out the door. Dan Snyder needs to see what he has done. Shannahan and his whole coaching staff SHOULD be booed out of the stadium. Worthless garbage.

Is it your contention the Washington NFL team is not making money? The value of the organization has skyrocketed since he took over. They'll make hundreds of millions this year despite secondary market prices for tickets and lost potential concession sales in the second-half of homes games.

Daniel Snyder knows very little about running a successful team in the realm of football but he's absolutely made cash hand over fist despite his questionable football moves and continues to do so.

[stevewizzle]

I know this is football and your posting on this thread automatically makes you a blockhead, but can you please refrain from using the "c" word?

Stop let your wife control you actions in the world.  You are a man damnit act like it.

YEAH! stop acting like such a pussy, james ford.

[DeathFromAbove1979]

Ticket sales don't matter because they've "already been sold" so he already has the money. When you have an 80,000+ person stadium and about 53,000 show up, it's less money. Dan Snyder has made  a boat load of cash off the team, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want more.

I really can't anything more. This team has been pathetic for the better part of 2 decades and any momentary glimpse of hope almost always seems to go up in flames. That 4 game winning streak, by this point last year, feels like it was a decade ago. RG3 feels like a guy on the way out instead of a shining savior.

[stevewizzle]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html

Seems the headline of the article is a lie.    When all fans leave at half time they do deserve Snyder and Shanahan. 

agree.

[Relaxer]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/is-mike-shanahan-or-daniel-snyder-to-blame-washington-doesnt-deserve-either-of-them/2013/12/08/346ccb90-6068-11e3-8beb-3f9a9942850f_story.html

This is a really stupid article. I mean, he's lecturing Shanahan for not treating Albert Haynesworth with respect? Haynesworth took a huge shit on the Redskins and basically stole their money. And Shanahan is unhappy that one of his players has a hush-hush back-channel relationship with the owner? He should be, especially when it's an owner like Snyder who has a long stupid history of meddling and interfering despite lacking any football intelligence or savvy.

I am not fan of Shanahan and think he needs to go, but anyone looking to this article for wisdom will find none. Boswell should stick to baseball.

[hutch]

Pretty harsh!

"Who deserves more blame, Mike Shanahan, the weasel of a coach who defames his enemies, deflects blame and now may duck out of town if he gets the firing he craves? "


I was surprised Shanahan said after the game that he didn't have the team ready to play yesterday! Seems like a crazy thing to admit to!

This seems a reach.. would Houston even be interested in Mike Shanahan?? with his record in DC?

"Out-of-work Kremlinologists who now study Ashburn, Va., will someday determine whether Shanahan really wants to be fired so he can get the first shot at the open Houston coaching job and take his son, Kyle, a successful offensive coordinator there in ?09-10, with him to a safe harbor and, perhaps, a No. 1 overall draft pick. After all, the Texans are the only team in the NFL with a worse record than Washington. Or maybe ?fired? ensures him more of the $7 million for ?14 that he?s owed, whereas ?I quit? squanders it. "

[i am gay and i like cats]

do you put this much effort into your job, as you do football?  if so, you must be the ceo, by now.

[hutch]

do you put this much effort into your job, as you do football?  if so, you must be the ceo, by now.

get back on the meds cranko!

 

[i am gay and i like cats]

good one!   

that made me laugh out loud.  no, it made me roll on the floor laughing.  that is what the kids are saying nowadays, isnt it?   

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

Don't the fans deserve some of the blame in a backhanded way? I know alot of Washington fans and no matter what idiotic contract it was -- Deion, Haynesworth, etc -- they were always heralded at the time as brilliant moves. The RG3 pick is the same thing. Didn't the Washington NFL team give up an insane 4 #1 picks for RG3 in the era where there are more NFL-ready Day 1 QBs available than ever before? And yet, every Washington fan I know acted like they were getting Jesus Incarnate and it was totally reasonable to dump 4 first-rounders to move up a few spots in the draft.

And the Washington NFL team is poised to give the #2 pick overall back to St Louis this season. Effectively, they traded #2 overall picks and for the pleasure of getting that pick 2 years early, they're paying 3 first-rounders in "interest." This is the football equivalent of paying your car payment with a payday loan and then paying off the payday loan with a second payday loan and paying that payday loan off with a third payday loan. It was patently stupid at the time but you simply could not convince a Washington fan that there was any downside to this.

I'm not a Washington fan or hater, but I've never seen a fanbase who complains more about their owner's decisions after the fact while CONSISTENTLY hyping every decision he makes in the moment despite all logic to the contrary. Perhaps if Washington fans didn't act like they've won the Super Bowl every off-season (and spend 8 trillion dollars on RG3/Washed-Up Has-Been jerseys every year), Dan Snyder miggggght get the picture. (Probably not, but its worth a shot.)

[hutch]

^ all true....but in part , and let me add I despise American "Foot"ball although this year I been watching more, and feeling bad about it... (what can I say: the game has changed a lot..that is one great thing about American "Foot"ball...very dynamic game..)... but I digress, here is the point:

part of the issue is the press always hypes the moves and then the fans go along with it

before Shanahan was brought in I thought the Skins should get a proven coach..somebody who had won a super bowl.... i thought Cowher would have been better... but I can' criticize them for getting Shanahan as his name did come up.... I'm talking about a conversation I had a year or two before he was brought in...... I wonder if the problem with the salary cap hindered the team so much that nobody could have done a better job... I don't understand the ins and outs of that situation..I do think SHanahan really fucked up big time last year putting RGIII in after he was clearly too hurt to play.... the whole Haynesworth thing.. I mean Shanahan just seems like a real bitch..I did not know that he was such a petty vindictive guy.

[James Ford]

The p word is so much nicer than the c word.
And I guess atomic hasn't met my wife. I'm always the one begging her to clean up her language.

I know this is football and your posting on this thread automatically makes you a blockhead, but can you please refrain from using the "c" word?

Stop let your wife control you actions in the world.  You are a man damnit act like it.

YEAH! stop acting like such a pussy, james ford.