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Re: That Darned Washington NFL Team, Pt. Deux
« Reply #315 on: June 11, 2014, 09:54:26 pm »
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names.  Your argument is weak.

So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.

Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.

The camel issue is a perfect example.  there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to.  When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better?  Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.
I don't understand your point. I've never heard anyone offended by the euphemism "the n-word" being used in lieu of "nigger" and I live in a congressional district that just said Eric Cantor wasn't a sufficiently hateful, conservative loon for their liking.

I think atomic made an excellent point. He gave five other area sports team names and claims he's never heard anyone find their use offensive or racist. (Nor have I.) You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?
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Re: That Darned Washington NFL Team, Pt. Deux
« Reply #316 on: June 11, 2014, 09:55:22 pm »
look its over.. the name has to go...its offensive to a lot of people.... even non-indians for crying out loud.

the crummy owner should get ahead of the story and change the name.. they could use a reboot anyways.... they've sucked since about 1993 for crying out loud.. that's more than two decades...

the owner should be smart and do it now.. not wait til his hand is ultimately forced which is what will happen... do it from a position of strength and maybe even exact some concessions in return

EVERY word is offensive to some people.  I agree with you that sooner or later the name will change.  It has nothing to do with what is right or wrong though, it has more to do with the PC crap that has taken over the USA.
Explain to whom and for what reason the word "and" is offensive. Hyperbole much?
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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #317 on: June 11, 2014, 09:57:51 pm »
You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?

I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals.... they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..

DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names... picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind...

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Re: That Darned Washington NFL Team, Pt. Deux
« Reply #318 on: June 11, 2014, 10:01:21 pm »
You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?

I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals.... they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..

DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names... picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind...
You do understand that's a huge gulf between "not liking something and/or thinking it's stupid" vs "finding it racially offensive and having no place in civilized society."

Let's not conflate "this team name is dumb" with "this is a derogatory slur for an ethnicity."
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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #319 on: June 11, 2014, 10:07:02 pm »
You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?

I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals.... they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..

DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names... picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind...
You do understand that's a huge gulf between "not liking something and/or thinking it's stupid" vs "finding it racially offensive and having no place in civilized society."

Let's not conflate "this team name is dumb" with "this is a derogatory slur for an ethnicity."
yes I get it man.

but, stupidity also offends me... ;D

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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #320 on: June 11, 2014, 10:19:20 pm »
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names.  Your argument is weak.

So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.

Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.

The camel issue is a perfect example.  there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to.  When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better?  Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.

So you are saying the Washington Cunts has a nice ring to it?

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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #321 on: June 11, 2014, 10:22:46 pm »
You're claiming any team name is going to offend someone but you don't explain how "Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals" would be offensive. What group would object to any of those and for what reason?

I was offended by the stupidity of naming them the Nationals.... they should have been the Senators.. the only saving grace is that people used to call the Senators "the Nats" and people now call the Nationals "the Nats"..

DC has a long tradition of stupidity in names... picking the Wizards for the NBA team comes to mind...

Actually none of the DC teams have good names.  You need a team that you can get a mascot.  I guess you could get a Native American to dance for the Football team but some might not like it.  I think Rhinos came in second for a choice for the Ravens.  That would be a great name for a football team and you could have a live rhino on the sideline...how awesome would that be?

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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #322 on: June 12, 2014, 09:27:08 am »
Exact concessions from whom?

The Indians of course.  Get some of that casino money.
They prefer the term "Native American", please and thank you.
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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #323 on: June 12, 2014, 05:32:40 pm »
DC team names?   They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term.  So what do they change it to, 'Wizards' as if that were not more offensive that bullets.  Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #324 on: June 12, 2014, 05:36:02 pm »
DC team names?   They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term.  So what do they change it to, 'Wizards' as if that were not more offensive that bullets.  Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
How is wizards more offensive than bullets? Whom is it offensive to? Warlocks?
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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #325 on: June 12, 2014, 05:55:25 pm »
DC team names?   They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term.  So what do they change it to, 'Wizards' as if that were not more offensive that bullets.  Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
How is wizards more offensive than bullets? Whom is it offensive to? Warlocks?

I find it offensive.  It reminds me of people who play Dungeons and Dragons and I think someone needs to be beat up for being so nerdy so it gets me in an angry mood.

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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #326 on: June 12, 2014, 06:05:05 pm »
DC team names?   They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term.  So what do they change it to, 'Wizards' as if that were not more offensive that bullets.  Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
How is wizards more offensive than bullets? Whom is it offensive to? Warlocks?

I find it offensive.  It reminds me of people who play Dungeons and Dragons and I think someone needs to be beat up for being so nerdy so it gets me in an angry mood.
Lets leave killsaly out of this...
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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #327 on: June 12, 2014, 06:19:31 pm »
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names.  Your argument is weak.

So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.

Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.

The camel issue is a perfect example.  there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to.  When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better?  Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.

So you are saying the Washington Cunts has a nice ring to it?

it has a nice ring to it. halftime show can be a mock abortion. or fuck it, a real abortion, it's ratbastard's america and there's no room for being PC.

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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #328 on: June 12, 2014, 06:29:27 pm »
This whole nonsense about the football team's name is about as silly as the people who are upset about the camel in the 'guess what day it is' commercials because using a camel might be offensive to some arabs.  If the criteria for words we cannot say any more is that the word in question might offend someone, then we need to ban all words.  I promise you that for any word we pick, someone somewhere will be offended by its use.  In the words of a semi-famous person form a few years back, "stop the insanity".

I have never heard anyone being offended by the Ravens, Orioles, Capitals, Nationals, DC United or 99 percent of other sports names.  Your argument is weak.

So just because you don't know about something means, never mind, I didn't notice who I was dealing with here.

Provide examples or your argument is as weak as it always is.

The camel issue is a perfect example.  there are many people who are offended by the silly use of the term "n-word", as if we all don't know what word it refers to.  When discussing the word 'nigger' as offensive as it is, are we not grown up enough that we can actually say the word we are talking about rather than saying "n-word" as if it made things any better?  Truth be told 99% of the so called politically correct" terms are just plain offensive and silly.

So you are saying the Washington Cunts has a nice ring to it?

it has a nice ring to it. halftime show can be a mock abortion. or fuck it, a real abortion, it's ratbastard's america and there's no room for being PC.

You could even have a fan contest to see which lucky fan gets to make the initial incision!
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Re: Those Darned Redskins, Pt. Deux
« Reply #329 on: June 12, 2014, 06:30:10 pm »
DC team names?   They changed the NBA team form Bullets and the official reason was that 'bullets' was offensive because of the violence associated with the term.  So what do they change it to, 'Wizards' as if that were not more offensive that bullets.  Proof positive that PC types are 100% full of shit.
How is wizards more offensive than bullets? Whom is it offensive to? Warlocks?

I take it you did not click the link.
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