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Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« on: May 04, 2007, 08:56:00 am »
Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
 
 Ever since South Korean immigrant Cho Seung-hui gunned down 32 people at Virginia Tech, there has been much comment that the university should have realized just from his two hate-filled and inept plays that the senior English major was a dangerous creep who needed to be taken away.
 
 For a playwrighting class, Cho penned Mr. Brownstone and Richard McBeef (which, despite the Macbethian title, is a Hamlet-knock off about a young hero's lethal conflict with the new stepfather who murdered his real father).
 
 Richard McBeef includes such sterling dialogue as:
 
 "I hate him. Must kill Dick. Must kill Dick. Dick must die. Kill Dick."
 
 Many have asked: "How could the English Department not recognize the horrific implications of these works?"
 
 No one who wonders that, however, is familiar with the poetic oeuvre of one of Cho's own teachers, Virginia Tech's Distinguished Professor of English and Black Studies, Nikki Giovanni (for her website, click here).
 
 Among the most celebrated figures of the Black Arts Movement of the 1960s and recipient of 21 honorary degrees, Giovanni has published poems strikingly similar to Cho's plays in both vileness and incompetence. For example:
 
 The True Import of Present Dialog, Black vs. Negro, by Nikki Giovanni
 
 Ni**er
 Can you kill
 Can you kill
 Can a ni**er kill
 Can a ni**er kill a honkie
 Can a ni**er kill the Man
 Can you kill ni**er
 Huh? Ni**er can you
 kill
 Do you know how to draw blood
 Can you poison
 Can you stab-a-Jew
 Can you kill huh? Ni**er
 Can you kill
 Can you run a protestant down with your
 â??68 El Dorado
 (thatâ??s all theyâ??re good for anyway)
 Can you kill
 Can you piss on a blond head
 Can you cut it off
 Can you kill
 A ni**er can die
 We ainâ??t got to prove we can die
 We got to prove we can kill
 [More]
 
 Ironically, the author of these lines was asked to deliver the closing remarks at Virginia Tech's convocation memorializing the 32 slaughtered by Cho. For some reason, Giovanni didn't read The True Import.
 
 The above poem is not an isolated example. Cho's old professor has had, for example, a Molotov cocktail obsession:
 
 Also a company called Revolution has just issued
 A special kit for little boys
 Called Burn Baby
 Iâ??m told it has full instructions on how to siphon gas
 And fill a bottle
 
 And, then there's this:
 
 and it occurred to me
 maybe i shouldn't write
 at all
 but clean my gun
 and check my kerosene supply
 
 She switched themes from kill-the-honkies to confessional self-obsession as the market for up-against-the-wall poetry dried up at the end of the 1960s, and now laughs off questions about her Cho-like early work.
 
 Still, in 1997 the poetess had "Thug Life" tattooed on her arm to honor slain gangsta rapper Tupac Shakur, who was gunned down in a long-running fatal feud with other rappers. Wikipedia explains, with deadpan irony:
 
 "She has stated that she would 'rather be with the thugs than the people who are complaining about them.' She also tours nationwide and frequently speaks out against hate-motivated violence."
 
 Giovanni also writes prose:
 
 RACISM 101; Giovanni, Nikki; $20.00; This book indicts higher education for the inequities it perpetuates, contemplates the legacy of the 60's, provides a survival guide for black students on predominately white campuses, and denounces Spike Lee while offering her own ideas for a film about Malcolm X. [From a list of "Books On The African American LGB Experience"]
 
 She also has composed bon mots, such as:
 
 "A white face goes with a white mind. Occasionally a black face goes with a white mind. Very seldom a white face will have a black mind."
 
 And then there's her insight, "The honkie's whole sex thing is tied up to land."
 
 As an anonymous commenter rhetorically asked on my blog:
 
 "I wonder how many times Cho heard the phrase 'white privilege' while he was in college?"
 
 (Click here to see how often the term appears in the Virginia Tech website.)
 
 Giovanni is one of those sub-doggerel "poets" who has such Important Things to say that she can't be bothered to take the time to say them well. As she herself admitted to Brian Lamb on C-SPAN's Booknotes, "I'm not a very good rhymer." When she tries, it comes out like Cole Porter gone gaga:
 
 if it's gum we can chew it
 I hope it's love so we can do it
 
 Perhaps her best-known poem is Ego Tripping (there may be a reason why), a slab of Afrocentrist drivel from 1973:
 
 I was born in the Congo.
 I walked to the Fertile Crescent and built the sphinx.
 I designed a pyramid so tough that a star that only glows every one hundred years falls into the center giving divine perfect light.
 I am bad.
 
 Indeed.
 
 Of course, Professor Giovanni, an elderly lady of 63, is not personally a danger to other people, no matter how bloodthirsty some of her poems are.  
 
 (What impact she has had over the years on earnest, impressionable young people might be a different question, however.)
 
 Instead, she is a minimally talented self-promoter who has exploited various ideological fads over the decades, such as black radicalism, feminism, and Afrocentrism, to secure herself a comfy sinecure at Virginia Tech and to spend her spare time traveling around to hear herself be praised. Her own website lovingly lists 124   "Awards and Honors" she has garnered.
 
 Giovanni's fee for a personal appearance runs from $5,000 to $10,000. That's pocket lint compared to the $40,000+ demanded by Maya Angelou (who is ensconced down the road from public Virginia Tech at posh private Wake Forest), but it's a living.
 
 Giovanni is a small town version of New York City charlatan Al Sharpton, You might think that the ringmaster of the 1987 Tawana Brawley hoax whose racist rhetoric helped incite the Crown Heights pogrom of 1991 and the Freddie's Fashion Mart mass murder of 1995 might, like Don Imus, have talked himself out of a job by now.
 
 And, yet, Sharpton not only endures, but prospersâ??elbowing his way back into the spotlights as the moral arbiter at the center of the recent Imus brouhaha.
 
 Being a race hustler apparently means never having to say you're sorry.

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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2007, 09:07:00 am »
I'll put this to the rest of the forum before merely deleting it.
 
 Do posts like this have a place in this forum? Is more than just a link suitable? Anyone think Dupek needs to start a blog instead of treating this forum as one?
 
 I'm curious...
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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2007, 09:25:00 am »
why would you delete it? im curious?

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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2007, 09:29:00 am »
Kosmo fancies himself as the scissor man, putting end to evil-doers plans.
 
 Why are VT professors allowed to write:
 
  "stab-a-Jew..." ???
 
 Isn't this the least bit relevant to the facts of this massacre?
 
  "A white face goes with a white mind. Occasionally a black face goes with a white mind. Very seldom a white face will have a black mind."
 -Who could she be refering to? Dave Chappelle?    :D

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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2007, 09:39:00 am »
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Originally posted by manimtired:
  why would you delete it? im curious?
Because there are sacred cows in our society.
 
 While I don't usually agree with much that Dupek posts (OK, this could be the first time), this article is an interesting read. Much is taken out of context, to be sure. It's certainly inflammatory and intended to preach to a choir that I don't care to sing in. But it does seem that this is certainly a case of the pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended. really. honestly.)
 
 But there's something to be said for knowing your enemy. Whoever that may be. Which is why I don't think this stuff should be deleted - just debated and critiqued intelligently.
 
 Oh, wait - this is the 9:30 Forum. Where the most often used phrase is "<insert name of band> sucks".  :)  Enjoy your weekend, kids. I'm off to Joe Louis arena to watch my wife go ballistic at the Wings game.

Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2007, 09:43:00 am »
Are you implying that the killer read the professor's writings and was then helplessly compelled to go out and kill?
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Dupek Chakra:
  Kosmo fancies himself as the scissor man, putting end to evil-doers plans.
 
 Why are VT professors allowed to write:
 
  "stab-a-Jew..." ???
 
 Isn't this the least bit relevant to the facts of this massacre?
 
  "A white face goes with a white mind. Occasionally a black face goes with a white mind. Very seldom a white face will have a black mind."
 -Who could she be refering to? Dave Chappelle?     :D  

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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2007, 09:49:00 am »
cool charlie has to buy his own b-day this year... be sure to post the picture of the handmade NASCAR t-shirt you give yourself  :D
 
 xcanuck makes an excellent point regarding having the ability to debate on what Dupek posts.  my point is that now a days this isn't the only place where that can happen.  it's not that hard to setup and maintain a blog, create a discussion forum elsewhere, etc.
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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2007, 09:50:00 am »
The article is from Frontpage.org. That's all I have to know to ignore it.

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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2007, 09:53:00 am »
Microsoft Frontpage?
 
 
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  The article is from Frontpage.org. That's all I have to know to ignore it.

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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2007, 09:56:00 am »
nope the type of site that has a huge picture of Tom Daley's latest book on the home page
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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2007, 10:08:00 am »
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   it's not that hard to setup and maintain a blog, create a discussion forum elsewhere, etc.
Dupek knows he has an audience here; the vast majority of personal blogs go unread. He almost never (if ever?) posts original material; he's more like Drudge. If he was to post such material on community blogs such as DailyKos he would either be banned outright for copyright infringement or eventually banned as a troll.
 
 I see his point about pushing the PC buttons of obstensibly liberal communities--John Waters said that's what Pink Flamingos was all about. But the audience for such commentary is pretty small; most people would rather participate in online communities of similar-minded folks, not just for the comfort of consensus among strangers but also for the sense of strength in numbers.

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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2007, 10:10:00 am »
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  Microsoft Frontpage?
Whoops, meant Frontpagemag.com.

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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2007, 10:13:00 am »
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Microsoft Frontpage?
Whoops, meant Frontpagemag.com. [/b]
Edited by David Horowitz, the man who gave us this pearl of wisdom...
 
 "Baghdad is liberated. In the days to come let us not forget that if it was not for one man, and one man aloneâ??George Bushâ??the people of Iraq would not be celebrating in the streets and pulling down Saddam's statues today... We have entered the era of a new civil war between the forces of freedom and the powers of Islamo-fascist and communist darkness, and once again the left is clearly determined to take its stand on the other side. The good news is that America is back. Our military has performed superlatively. Our leadership has stood tall. We ourselves can celebrate over this and look confidently towards what lies ahead."
 
 â??FrontPageMagazine.com | April 9, 2003
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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2007, 10:21:00 am »
so should this forum been seen as safe haven for troll behavior?
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Re: Virginia Tech's Professor of Hate
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2007, 10:30:00 am »
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 so should this forum been seen as safe haven for troll behavior?
Not at all, I see this forum as a place where you can share interesting material about music and pop culture. As I have said before, this Dupek guy loves to provoke, and he knows pretty well how to do it.
 
 Now, as thatguy said once, I dont really know him at all (and I dont even want to), and he doesnt have any kind of relevance in my everyday life...
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