Author Topic: WHFS is now......a salsa channel?  (Read 61520 times)

edbert

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Re: WHFS is now......a salsa channel?
« Reply #195 on: January 13, 2005, 11:22:00 am »
first of all, it isn't salsa, it's  alternative salsa

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« Reply #196 on: January 13, 2005, 11:23:00 am »
salsa
 
  that IS an alternative.

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Re: WHFS is now......a salsa channel?
« Reply #197 on: January 13, 2005, 11:39:00 am »
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Originally posted by edbert:
  first of all, it isn't salsa, it's  alternative salsa
The TRUE alternative salsa...
 
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« Reply #198 on: January 13, 2005, 11:42:00 am »
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  From Hfstival.com
 
 Fox News reported that there is a protest being planned for Saturday at the Asylum studio in DC at 819 7th Street @ 11am - I have no further information on this.
 
 They also created a petition
  http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?991hfs
lol I was going to make a comment about that satellite studio they've had setup for almost a year at Asylum Wake and Skate shop. I'll go over during my lunch break and just start taking stuff...that is unless they've got a mareachee band playing live!
 
 That petition that was drafted up is soooooo horrible. I think a 15 year old wrote it, which would make sense this those are the only ones who really care that the station is gone...Probably the same kid who has like 1000GB of stolen MP3s from P2P.
 
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Re: WHFS is now......a salsa channel?
« Reply #199 on: January 13, 2005, 11:45:00 am »
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  salsa
 
  that IS an alternative.
Is it Mild, Medium Or Hot Alternative Salsa?

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Re: WHFS is now......a salsa channel?
« Reply #200 on: January 13, 2005, 12:02:00 pm »
although, hfs's program has been horrible for quite some time, this is still concerning.  Where they in need of some major renovation?  Absolutly, but it is still discouraging to be seeing what it was replaced with. the fact that lollapalooza was cancelled, meriweather has been struggling to say open for years, album and ticketsales are generally down and now this.  It is alarming, whether you liked their recent programing or not.  This is just an extenstion of the over all lackluster of the music industry, especailly in the (and I use this word very loosly) "rock" genere.  
 
 mp3 killed the audio star.....
 
 not exactly, but you get the point.
 Most album and ticket sales are down, which means profits for record companies and artists are down, which means record companies are taking fewer risks and chances and there is less motovation for artists to original, which means less creative and original acts are being signed, which means you have watered down radio stations that are not playing hardly any good new music, which means lower listener ratings, which means.....you got it salsa.  This is f%*#ing bad.  Music is more than just entertainment.  It is the voice of generations, the freedom of speach.  One of the last freedoms we have that is slowly being striped from us (thanks FCC).  Do I listen to the radio that often?  Not anymore. Not for quite some time. As many of you have stated I am ususally listening to my ipod.  But you will never hear a new artist on your ipod!  I have one of the larger pods, but guess what?  Eventully I am going to get sick of playing the same dated stuff over and over again, regaurdless of how much I like it.  I will want something new and exciting.  Something that speaks to and for current and future generations....
 
 Where will I hear it???????????

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« Reply #201 on: January 13, 2005, 12:07:00 pm »
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Originally posted by aortaatroa:
   This is just an extenstion of the over all lackluster of the music industry, especailly in the (and I use this word very loosly) "rock" genere.  
 
 Most album and ticket sales are down, which means profits for record companies and artists are down, which means record companies are taking fewer risks and chances and there is less motovation for artists to original, which means less creative and original acts are being signed, which means you have watered down radio stations that are not playing hardly any good new music, which means lower listener ratings, which means.....
 Where will I hear it???????????
which means now people will start having to do some *work* to find new music...maybe smaller, local "scenes" will develop...
 
 of course, most things that become part of an "industry" or comglomerate become less valuable artistically...so the break down of the industry could actually be a good thing...just keep supporting your TRULY independent and DIY artists and labels...

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« Reply #202 on: January 13, 2005, 12:11:00 pm »
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 Most album and ticket sales are down,
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US CD sales rose by 2.3% in 2004 - the first rise in four years - despite the growing popularity of legal digital music downloads.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4150747.stm

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« Reply #203 on: January 13, 2005, 12:19:00 pm »
[/QUOTE]which means now people will start having to do some *work* to find new music...maybe smaller, local "scenes" will develop...
 
 of course, most things that become part of an "industry" or comglomerate become less valuable artistically...so the break down of the industry could actually be a good thing...just keep supporting your TRULY independent and DIY artists and labels... [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 Yes, this could be true.  Let's hope so anyway!  But these things take time and it still looks quite bleak for the near future.

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« Reply #204 on: January 13, 2005, 12:25:00 pm »
[/QUOTE]  
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US CD sales rose by 2.3% in 2004 - the first rise in four years - despite the growing popularity of legal digital music downloads.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4150747.stm [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 
 They may have rose slightly last year but they are still generally much lower than say 5 to 10 years ago.  It is good that there was a small increase last year, but things like this are not going to help.

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Re: WHFS is now......a salsa channel?
« Reply #205 on: January 13, 2005, 12:27:00 pm »
The fact of the matter is the numbers tell the story with regards to WHFS
 
 According to the October 2004 Arbitron ratings, which cover the summer months, WHFS ended up 17th out of 20.  It placed between Z104 & WAVA (105.1 - religious/talk format).  
 
 HFS was 17th for July and April as well.  Fall 2003 it came in 20th.
 
 Kinda hard to sell advertising and bring in revenue on a poorly performing station.  Switching to the new format makes total sense because there is less competition radio stations competing for adverstizers seeking the spanish community.
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Re: WHFS is now......a salsa channel?
« Reply #206 on: January 13, 2005, 12:32:00 pm »
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  I've been missing the flashback cafe since they nixed that. Come to think of it, that's around the time I stopped listening regularly.
For real!

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« Reply #207 on: January 13, 2005, 12:45:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  The fact of the matter is the numbers tell the story with regards to WHFS
 
 According to the October 2004 Arbitron ratings, which cover the summer months, WHFS ended up 17th out of 20.  It placed between Z104 & WAVA (105.1 - religious/talk format).  
 
 HFS was 17th for July and April as well.  Fall 2003 it came in 20th.
 
 Kinda hard to sell advertising and bring in revenue on a poorly performing station.  Switching to the new format makes total sense because there is less competition radio stations competing for adverstizers seeking the spanish community.
That is partially true, but music should not be dictated by business and advertising.  It is exactly that kind of attidude that produced the crappy music they where playing and resulted in their reflective ratings.  It is unfortunate when art becomes so apprieciated that it becomes a business and ends up killing itself........

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« Reply #208 on: January 13, 2005, 01:12:00 pm »
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  That is partially true, but music should not be dictated by business and advertising...
no, but radio stations, unless college or public, kind of need to be, don't they...because businesses is what they are...

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Re: WHFS is now......a salsa channel?
« Reply #209 on: January 13, 2005, 01:18:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  The fact of the matter is the numbers tell the story with regards to WHFS
 
 According to the October 2004 Arbitron ratings, which cover the summer months, WHFS ended up 17th out of 20.  It placed between Z104 & WAVA (105.1 - religious/talk format).  
 
 HFS was 17th for July and April as well.  Fall 2003 it came in 20th.
 
 Kinda hard to sell advertising and bring in revenue on a poorly performing station.  Switching to the new format makes total sense because there is less competition radio stations competing for adverstizers seeking the spanish community.
>>> Kos has spoken the whole truth about the entire situation.....this station has been a truly underperforming entity for YEARS!! Revenue has been in the toilet and advertising dollars are what drives the entire station. It's very hard to sell advertising for a station that consistently finishes at the bottom of the barrel in the ratings book! Terrestrial radio is fighting for every dollar it can now. Making the move to a segment of the market that is under served could mean thousands more in revenue. If the powers that be at the station were concerned with the situation as they should have been,they could have started to tweak the format in the last 3 or 4 fours years away from the nu metal and crap and truly more to the indie pop side or the "classic" alternative that other stations in other markets had already shifted to. They had nothing to lose,the ratings were crap and the time was right to correct the problem,they chose to keep beating a dead horse! Now,here's a commercial "alternative" playlist that I'd be listening to daily in my car!http://www.indie1031.fm/music.html