Utah Rave Bust - Excessive Force?

[Sage 703]

http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/82205utrave.cfm
 
 Watch the video and read the accounts of those that were there.  This seems pretty awful to me, and people should know about it.  
 
 SWAT and National Guard to shut down a concert?  Regardless of whether or not they had a permit/insurance policy/drug issues, this is rather absurd.

[sonickteam2]

i like how RAVE is capitalized every time

[Sage 703]

Yeah.  Well, I also looked for this on more legitimate news sites (run a Google News search for "Utah Rave").  Police claim that they didn't have an appropriate permit.  But really, watch the video.  Its rather sickening.

[hostiledm]

couldn't get the link on the video to work....

[Sage 703]

try this one:
 
 http://fatbaron.com/videos.html
 
 i imagine that a lot of sites are getting overloaded.

[hostiledm]

those worked thanks.

[vansmack]

I've seen worse.

[Sir HC]

Weird to see guys in commando outfits to do police work.  Just doesn't seem right.

[hostiledm]

Originally posted by Sir HC:
  Weird to see guys in commando outfits to do police work.  Just doesn't seem right.

agreed.

[MindCage]

Originally posted by Sir HC:
  Weird to see guys in commando outfits to do police work.  Just doesn't seem right.

National Guard most likely...
 
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[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

National guard forces are notoriously bad at civilian crowd control.  They're the ones who shot a bunch of kids at Kent State back in the 70s, after all.  Calling them in for a rave is pretty stupid.
 
 On the other hand... what do you expect in UTAH?

[Sir HC]

More to the point, with most states National Guard troops overtaxed having to go to Iraq and Afghanistan, using them for something like this is a waste.  State emergencies (Floods, tornados, and fires) are a good use, but as cops no way.

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by Sir HC:
  State emergencies (Floods, tornados, and fires) are a good use,  

It was a RAVE, man, a RAVE! How much bigger of an emergency is there? No matter how motherfucking a flood is, you don't see it labeled FLOOD.

[Guiny]

So what exactly was wrong with that video? Looked like they did everything by the book to me. I didn't see any baton swinging or excessive force.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  So what exactly was wrong with that video? Looked like they did everything by the book to me. I didn't see any baton swinging or excessive force.

i didnt see the video but anytime a police officer kicks someone while they are on the ground, thats excessive force.
 
   of course, Rob Gee is the militant guntoting republican on the board!