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Frank Gallagher

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Say it ain't so....LANCE!
« on: August 24, 2005, 10:24:00 am »
Drug body to scrutinise Armstrong  
   
   
 The boss of the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) says the organisation is looking into the latest doping claims against cycling legend Lance Armstrong.
 French paper L'Equipe claimed signs of EPO were found in samples of the seven-time Tour de France winner's urine from the 1999 race.
 
 Armstrong has denied the claims but Wada president Dick Pound said: "It's a pretty serious story if it is true.
 
 "We've not decided what we'd do because I've not looked at all the details."
 
 Pound said Wada would not be able to make a judgement until it had seen all the evidence.
 
 "We will look at the information available and then we will decide the best way to get as much light on this as possible," he said.
 
   
 Tests on the samples from the 1999 race were carried out in 2004 because cycling's governing body did not start using a urine test for EPO until 2001, L'Equipe said.
 
 Pound said the issue is a matter for the International Cycling Union (UCI) and USA Cycling, noting that Wada had not yet been formed when the samples were taken.
 
 "But what is good for me is it's a lesson to anybody using drugs that we may not catch you on day one, but sooner or later, the truth will come out," said Pound.
 
 "Now the riders involved have a serious responsibility to explain how it is that the substance got into the system."
 
 Wada was launched in November of 1999, four months after the samples would have been taken from Armstrong during his first Tour de France triumph.
 
 USA Cycling spokesman Andy Lee said the national governing body for the sport would need more information before saying anything.
 
 "Right now we're not going to comment on it. We don't have any of the details," he said. "It's not our arena to comment on an ongoing investigation."
 
 Armstrong says the L'Equipe article is part of a "witch-hunt".
 
 He added: "I will simply restate what I have said many times: I have never taken performance-enhancing drugs."

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Re: Say it ain't so....LANCE!
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2005, 10:29:00 am »
Lies, all lies!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Say it ain't so....LANCE!
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2005, 10:36:00 am »
cheaters, all cheaters

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Re: Say it ain't so....LANCE!
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2005, 10:40:00 am »
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  Lies, all lies!!!!!!!!!
Who? Armstrong? Well he has been hanging with old Hee-haw of the Whitehouse, the master of lies and deceit...

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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2005, 10:49:00 am »
Your just saying that because he's just another American dominating his sport. These lies wouldnt be coming out if it were a Eur-a-pee'in winning seven years in a row.

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2005, 10:55:00 am »
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  These lies wouldnt be coming out if it were a Eur-a-pee'in winning seven years in a row.
but if they were , you would believe them....

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2005, 12:28:00 pm »
Haven't the French tried pinning this stuff on him several times before and nothing has ever been proven?

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2005, 12:46:00 pm »
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  Your just saying that because he's just another American dominating his sport. These lies wouldnt be coming out if it were a Eur-a-pee'in winning seven years in a row.
Not at all.....I was saying "Say it aint so" because I am a huge fan of Lance Armstrong, but hate cheaters, and Tyler Hamilton has already broken my cycling heart.

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Re: Say it ain't so....LANCE!
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2005, 01:45:00 pm »
Le Monde is reporting that Markie sleeps in a hyobaric chamber.

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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2005, 01:55:00 pm »
Yes you did, No I didn't, Yes you did, No I didn't...
 
 Hell it was 1999!  Like I am supposed to believe that a bottle of piss was stored all nice and safe for 6+ years, these french scientists/chemists now perform tests on the ANONYMOUS samples, they trace these samples back to any given individual (which just so happens to be the one person these very same people would just love to nail in such a scheme), and it is all proven fact.  In this case I choose to believe its all a bunch of crap.  Sour grapes.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2005, 03:53:00 pm »
The Associated Press Friday, August 26, 2005
 
 PARIS, France --
 
 
 Lance Armstrong's record setting seventh Tour de France victory, along with his entire Tour de France legacy, may be tarnished by what could turn out to be one of the greatest sports scandals of all time.
 
 Armstrong is being quizzed by French police after three banned substances were found in his South France hotel room while on vacation after winning the 2005 Tour de France.
 
 The three substances found were toothpaste, deodorant, and soap, which have been banned by French authorities for over 75 years.
 
 Armstrong's girlfriend, American rocker Sheryl Crowe, is quoted as saying "We use them every day in America, so we naturally thought they'd be ok throughout Europe."
 
 Along with these three banned substances, French authorities also physically searched Armstrong and found several other interesting items that they had never seen before, including a backbone and a testicle.

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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2005, 04:03:00 pm »
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  The Associated Press Friday, August 26, 2005
 
 PARIS, France --
 
 
 Lance Armstrong's record setting seventh Tour de France victory, along with his entire Tour de France legacy, may be tarnished by what could turn out to be one of the greatest sports scandals of all time.
 
 Armstrong is being quizzed by French police after three banned substances were found in his South France hotel room while on vacation after winning the 2005 Tour de France.
 
 The three substances found were toothpaste, deodorant, and soap, which have been banned by French authorities for over 75 years.
 
 Armstrong's girlfriend, American rocker Sheryl Crowe, is quoted as saying "We use them every day in America, so we naturally thought they'd be ok throughout Europe."
 
 Along with these three banned substances, French authorities also physically searched Armstrong and found several other interesting items that they had never seen before, including a backbone and a testicle.

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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2005, 04:06:00 pm »
tyler was framed.
 and now they'll try to do it to lance.
 
 god bless 'em.

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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 01:29:35 pm »
Landis, Admitting Doping, Accuses Top U.S. Cyclists
By JULIET MACUR and MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT

VISALIA, Calif. ? After four years of maintaining his innocence about doping charges that ruined his reputation and caused him to be stripped of his 2006 Tour de France title, the American cyclist Floyd Landis has sent e-mail messages to several cycling officials in the United States and in Europe in which he admits using performance-enhancing drugs for most of his career.

Two of those officials said that Landis?s messages provided a detailed description of doping that began in 2002, Landis?s first year alongside then-teammate Lance Armstrong. Both were riding for the successful but now-defunct United States Postal Service team. The two officials who received the e-mail did not want their names published, citing ongoing investigations, including by federal authorities, into the content of the e-mail.

In the messages, which were first reported by The Wall Street Journal, Landis accused other top American cyclists on the Postal Service team, including Armstrong, of using performance-enhancing drugs and methods. Other cyclists named were current United States road racing national champion George Hincapie, three-time Tour of California champion Levi Leipheimer and five-time United States time trial champion David Zabriskie.

None of those riders, who are all competing at this week?s Tour of California, were available for comment Wednesday.

Jonathan Vaughters, team manager of Zabriskie?s Garmin-Transitions team, said that Zabriskie was upset after learning of Landis?s accusations late Wednesday.

?I don?t know what is in the head of Floyd Landis, what his motivations are, but I think Dave just wants to get on with this race,? Vaughters said of Zabriskie, who is in the overall lead of the Tour of California, with four stages to go. ?Dave can win this race. He can win this race clean, under any level of scrutiny.?

Steve Johnson, chief executive of USA Cycling and the main recipient of Landis?s e-mail messages, did not return several calls for this article on Wednesday.

Landis also did not return phone calls, but told ESPN.com that he had no documentation to prove most of his claims against his former teammates. ?I want to clear my conscience,? said Landis, who races with the lower level OUCH-Bahati Foundation Pro Cycling team. ?I don?t want to be part of the problem anymore.?

Landis provided detailed information about his own doping practices, saying he consistently used the blood-booster EPO to increase his endurance, testosterone, human growth hormone and blood transfusions.

He said he took female hormones and tried insulin once during the years he rode for the Postal Service and Swiss-based Phonak teams, according to ESPN.com. He spent $90,000 a year on his doping regimen, he said.

Landis said that some of his teammates on the Postal Service team were well aware of the doping regimen in the sport.

Two other Postal Service team members admitted to The New York Times in 2006 that they had used EPO while preparing for the Tour de France in 1999. Frankie Andreu, who is retired from racing, and a second rider who spoke on condition of anonymity because he did not want to jeopardize his career, both said they had used the drug while they were teammates with Armstrong in 1999.

Two more members of the 1999 team later tested positive for using banned substances. Tyler Hamilton tested positive for blood doping in 2004 and then retired from cycling last year after acknowledging that he used a banned steroidal substance. And Roberto Heras tested positive for EPO in 2005. In at least one of his messages to cycling officials, according to a person who received it, Landis said that he and Armstrong, the seven-time Tour de France champion, had discussed the need to use blood transfusions to boost endurance. A new test for the synthetic blood-booster, EPO, had made doping more difficult.

Armstrong, who has been dogged by doping allegations throughout his career, has denied doping and has never officially tested positive. At the 1999 Tour, he failed a test for a corticosteroid, but produced a doctor?s note for it.

For Pat McQuaid, president of the International Cycling Union, Landis?s accusations do not taint Armstrong?s reputation one bit.

?I think Landis is in a very sad situation and I feel sorry for the guy because I don?t accept anything he says as true,? McQuaid said in a telephone interview on Thursday. ?This is a guy who has been condemned in court, who has stood up in court and stated that he never saw any doping in cycling. He?s written a book saying he won the Tour de France clean. Where does that leave his credibility? He has an agenda and is obviously out to seek revenge.?

McQuaid said he received Landis?s e-mail messages several weeks ago, but immediately discounted the accusations in them because they were ?purely allegations and no proof of anything.? He has since sent the messages to the cycling union?s legal department.

Federal authorities have spoken with Landis in recent weeks about the information in the e-mail, according to two people briefed on the matter.

Landis, who spent nearly two years and reportedly more than $2 million fighting the charges against him, has agreed to cooperate with the authorities and provide them with the same information he has provided anti-doping and cycling officials. The authorities are interested in whatever information Landis has about distributors of banned substances and new methods of doping being used by athletes.

Over the past month, Landis also has been cooperating with officials from the United States Anti-Doping Agency, providing them with details about the other cyclists and Armstrong, the people briefed on the matter said.

Jeff Novitzky, a federal agent who spearheaded the investigation into the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative steroids case, is involved in the investigation. It is not clear whether Landis has contacted him via e-mail or telephone.

Landis, who lives in California but grew up in rural Pennsylvania, won the inaugural running of the Tour of California, in 2006. That was several months before his improbable victory at the Tour de France, when he rode solo over a mountain pass to put himself into contention for the victory.

After winning the Tour, Landis tested positive for synthetic testosterone and was subsequently barred from the sport for two years after a very public, costly and caustic legal battle.

Landis had insisted he was innocent and wrote a book in 2007 titled, ?Positively False: The Real Story of How I Won the Tour de France.? His fans donated money for his defense. As recently as a few months ago, he was on ?Larry King Live? to discuss his case and emphasize his innocence.

On Thursday, the rest of the peloton is likely to be talking about it, too.

Philippe Maertens, the spokesman for Armstrong and Leipheimer?s RadioShack team, said Armstrong and team manager Johan Bruyneel would speak about the issue on Thursday morning before the Stage 5 start of the race.

In his e-mail messages to cycling officials, Landis also named team officials he alleged had been involved in doping.

Doping regimens were encouraged by some team officials, including Johan Bruyneel, the longtime Postal Service team manager and current head of Armstrong?s RadioShack team, Landis wrote, according to a person who received the e-mails. Landis also said that the former head of the Swiss-based Phonak team, Andy Rihs, also tolerated doping. Landis was a member of the Phonak squad when he won the 2006 Tour.

Rihs, who now owns BMC Racing based in the United States, issued a statement calling Landis?s allegations ?lies? and said, ?Neither I nor the management of the team knew that Floyd Landis was doped.?

Landis said that Bruyneel, his team manager on the Postal Service team, introduced him to the use of steroid patches, blood doping and human growth hormone, according to officials who received the e-mail. Landis also said that in 2003, after breaking his hip, he had stored bags of blood in Armstrong?s apartment in Girona, Spain. He said that his blood was stored in a refrigerator, along with bags of blood belonging to Hincapie and Armstrong.

Landis, in his e-mails to cycling officials, also recounted helping Leipheimer and Zabriskie use the blood-booster EPO before the Tour of California several years ago. Neither of those riders have ever tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug or method.

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Re: Say it ain't so....LANCE!
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2010, 01:32:45 pm »
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