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sonickteam2

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2004, 05:19:00 pm »
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sonickteam2

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #46 on: August 19, 2004, 05:25:00 pm »
wait.
 
  is her name Choking Victim cause she's saying she got choked at the club?
 
   in the case i should change my name to Drunk Guy.
 
   just kidding.

ChokingVictim

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2004, 07:08:00 pm »
i'll tell you this much, i wasn't a threat.  &i sure as hell didn't hurt anyone else, including the doorstapher.  you know what, i could explain everything, but it's not like anyone on here really gives a rats ass.  just saying though, watch some of your guys, some of the handling was really unnecessary&i wouldn't complain unless i felt there was a true need to.  i don't bitch&moan every time someone touches me, punches me, grabs me, but he was doing it more than anyone i have ever encountered at a show.  i'm not saying the guy hit me, he didn't, he just grabbed the shit out of me&bruised my torso.  it's fine, i'll drop it, but you guys are still lame as hell for having assholes in the pit.  
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  ok, firstly, this thread is wack.
 
 secondly, as a doorstapher at the club, i feel like i should clear something up. i wasn't working that night, so i don't know what happened. but i will say this: doorstaph do NOT manhandle patrons, whether they be a huge angry meathead or a tiny moshing girl. we react and respond to the given situation with intelligence and practicality, always keeping in mind, first and foremost, the safety and comfort of the patrons. we are far from the typical aggressive bouncers encountered at some other clubs. we do not use violence or aggressive tactics to deal with a situation unless pushed to do so, which is infrequent.
 
 all i can say is, there's probably more to this story than presented by the original teller.

DiGangi

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2004, 11:37:00 pm »
hey, those new McGriddle things are the cat's butt
 What do you think?
 Syrup infused biscuts.             WOW!

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #49 on: August 20, 2004, 12:11:00 am »
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Originally posted by ChokingVictim:
  i'll tell you this much, i wasn't a threat.  &i sure as hell didn't hurt anyone else, including the doorstapher.  you know what, i could explain everything, but it's not like anyone on here really gives a rats ass.  just saying though, watch some of your guys, some of the handling was really unnecessary&i wouldn't complain unless i felt there was a true need to.  i don't bitch&moan every time someone touches me, punches me, grabs me, but he was doing it more than anyone i have ever encountered at a show.  i'm not saying the guy hit me, he didn't, he just grabbed the shit out of me&bruised my torso.  it's fine, i'll drop it, but you guys are still lame as hell for having assholes in the pit.  
 xox
 
   
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Originally posted by snailhook:
  ok, firstly, this thread is wack.
 
 secondly, as a doorstapher at the club, i feel like i should clear something up. i wasn't working that night, so i don't know what happened. but i will say this: doorstaph do NOT manhandle patrons, whether they be a huge angry meathead or a tiny moshing girl. we react and respond to the given situation with intelligence and practicality, always keeping in mind, first and foremost, the safety and comfort of the patrons. we are far from the typical aggressive bouncers encountered at some other clubs. we do not use violence or aggressive tactics to deal with a situation unless pushed to do so, which is infrequent.
 
 all i can say is, there's probably more to this story than presented by the original teller.
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I think everyone wants to hear, or we wouldn't be asking or be concerned about the details and your well-being.
 Moshing can cause bruises too, right?
 Maybe he was trying to get you out of harms way in the pit and didn't realize his grip.
 take iron.
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CloverOverDover

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #50 on: August 20, 2004, 12:56:00 am »
Hearing (reading...whatever) about an incident like this at any other club in D.C. wouldn't surprise me at all....but the 9:30 Club? I don't believe it for a second.
 
 I see several shows a month at the club, sometimes several in one week. I have never, EVER seen a staff member acting unprofessionally. I can't imagine having to control and protect several hundred people flailing around in a mosh pit. And that's only ONE potentially bad situation that a staff member has to deal with on any given night. Think of all the other obnoxious crap people constantly try to get away with....drug use, underage drinking, perverts, fights, skanky girls trying to get backstage....I could go on and on. It's a tough job, and I don't know of any other venue that does it better.
 
 There's a reason that the club wins award after award. The 9:30 Club is a class act, pure and simple.

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #51 on: August 20, 2004, 01:00:00 am »
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Originally posted by ChokingVictim:
 it's fine, i'll drop it, but you guys are still lame as hell for having assholes in the pit.  
 xox
 
 
 Normally that is all that is in a pit...

samsfresh5

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2004, 02:25:00 am »
I don't want to "pile on", but I want to mirror snailhook in a response to this. To be clear, I wasn't there either, and I mostly just read this board, posting very rarely. However, when I read a thread like this, I think it affects me personally the way it would any other doorstaph member.  We try so hard every night to ensure that everyone that walks through those doors; bands, crew, staph, *and* patrons, have a good time and walk away with a positive reflection of that club and the band and show they saw.
 
 In my 33 years and what I "guess-timate" to be probably over 500 shows, including the full mix of those that I've worked in the last two years at the club, I've never understood "moshing".  I like to get excited and jump up and down and "dance" at shows when they really excite me. However, no matter how excited I get, I don't like people hitting me, punching me, or overtly bumping into me when I'm watching a band that I paid money to see. I feel like... if you wanna do that with your buddies, go home, put on the album, and beat the shit out of each other, but please, let me watch my band.
 
 *HOWEVER*  THAT SAID, Many people seem to embrace this phenomenon of "Hey man, the music gets me and my buddy angry and we want to run into each other and bang our skulls together." I have grown to accept this phenomenon, (reluctantly) and in those said 2 years at 930, I've watched it unfold at many shows.  It has several different forms, almost ALL of which are usually never interfered with by 930 doorstaph. However, there may be one or two of us standing nearby making sure that no one falls down, breaks an ankle, cuts themselves badly, passes out, or fights another person. ALL OF WHICH I HAVE SEEN from mosh pits at our club, which the starter of this thread has basically said she thinks is understandable if you choose to go to a show and "get in the mosh pit".
 
 Some of the doorstaph that work at our club pour their hearts and souls into wearing many hats and working alot of behind the scenes hours apart from the 2 to 3 that a patron sees every night. Some people are like me and do it for the love of the 930 Club, music and bands that I might not either have the chance to, or would even think to see. Most of us are a mix of both, and as I understand Seth so eloquently put it, an ??Amalgamation of Misfits and Characters?.  
 
 Whatever we are, we all love to tell people about the cool shows we have and brag about the ??Nightclub of the Year?? award, but grabbing or roughing patrons is not in anyway any part of what we do or who we are. I see us more as "ushers" or "customer-service reps."  ..we don't even use the "S" word to describe what we do.   :)  
 
 Despite what you may think, getting bumped into in the mosh pit does not give you free reign to throw punches at another patron.  From what everyone else??s account of the event tells me, that??s what you did. (again, I wasn??t there, but not I, nor most of this board, is buying your story and it's contradiction and irony)  If one of our doorstaph sees someone doing that to another patron, they will step in between it and diffuse the situation. I??ve never seen any of our doorstaph grab a patron, especially someone??s neck, and I highly doubt ANY of our staph did that, especially the guy that you are accusing.
 
 Sorry for the essay on this, but I don??t sweep up cigarette butts, clean up vomit, carry inebriated people out of the club, and deal with 40 crazed fans who??ll wait 2 hours after Weird Al Yanovic??s show to get him to sign their accordion?
 
 ...to read a post from someone flaming my friends and co-workers for an accusation that makes about as much sense as having someone kick you in the face for fun.  
 
 Oh wait? isn??t that that *other* phenomenon called ??Crowd surfing"?

samsfresh5

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2004, 02:30:00 am »
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  hey, those new McGriddle things are the cat's butt
 What do you think?
 Syrup infused biscuts.             WOW!
Wait a minute,  you mean they have a biscut infused with syrup?  get out of here.

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2004, 09:27:00 am »
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  skanky girls trying to get backstage....I could go on and on.
 
 
Hey, were in the club do these girls hang out? (Mankie now works on his accent)

Herr Professor Doktor Doom

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #55 on: August 20, 2004, 10:24:00 am »
I think moshing has as much to do with repressed sexuality as anything else... I lost interest in it pretty much around the same time I lost my virginity.  If you're a teenage boy and you're not getting any, you do want to crack skulls with people, because you're nothing but a sheer ball of tangled frustration!  I can't explain why girls do it though.  Maybe they just like being surrounded by sweaty frustrated boys. Maybe "Choking Victim" (is that your name all the time, or just for this thread?  ) can elaborate...     :cool:  
 
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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #56 on: August 20, 2004, 10:28:00 am »
or maybe moshers are all repressed gays or bi's.

Herr Professor Doktor Doom

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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #57 on: August 20, 2004, 10:30:00 am »
that would explain all the ass-grabbing.
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Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #58 on: August 20, 2004, 10:34:00 am »
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  wait.
 
  is her name Choking Victim cause she's saying she got choked at the club?
 
   in the case i should change my name to Drunk Guy.
 
   just kidding.
HA, I love that.  
 
 My friend will be Chatty Girl, and I'll be Drunk, Excitable Gal...

Re: security in the pit?
« Reply #59 on: August 20, 2004, 10:37:00 am »
Ill be arms folded, I don't dance guy