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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: redsock on February 05, 2009, 11:13:16 am
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Anyone actually get any? Knew lots of people who all got shut out...
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I got in for two and then managed to get back in for a third when one of my friends got shut out. I normally don't have that kind of luck...
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i got a pair.
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D'oh. I too know a lot of people that got shut-out.
Was hoping the system was screwed up since it's all double-booked and confusing on tickets.com. Apparently not the case and we're all just too slow. dammit.
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Cant beleive how quick that went away - I got the "no more tickets" message at 10:02 and tried repeatedly after that thinking the system was just messed up.... guess not.
Seems to be baltimore tix available.
jason
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i got a pair.
you should consider lending them to walkonby, who is afraid of getting shot on U st. i've been telling him to grow some for years, maybe loaners are the way to go.
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I got one "system overloaded" message right at 10, then got in and got 2...
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So do I. But I bet mine look different than yours.
i got a pair.
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you should consider lending them to walkonby, who is afraid of getting shot on U st. i've been telling him to grow some for years, maybe loaners are the way to go.
So do I. But I bet mine look different than yours.
;D
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Was locked out as well, kept trying from 10 onwards til 10:10 and kept getting system overload messages.
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So, who wants to organize a forum party to get a group together to meet this guy under the guise of buying tix from him and then lynch him?
I'm not going to the show, so I don't care personally about the tix, but one person swallowing up 40 tickets for this show to sell at 100% profit is just obnoxious.
Yes, I know it is a free market and all, but these slugs should find a way to make money that actually adds something of value to society and is not just parasitic.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/tix/1021779061.html
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So how did he do it? Does he have some app that attacks tickets.com with rapid-fire requests?
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So how did he do it? Does he have some app that attacks tickets.com with rapid-fire requests?
He must. I was on at 10:00:00 and never got through. All I saw was error messages saying that the system was too busy to handle my request and then another message that said there weren't enough tickets together in the section I requested, even though I selected 1 Gen Adm.
I agree that capitalism is a wonderful thing, but vultures like that bastard on CraigsList are just taking advantage of people.
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Well stick him back. Don't buy his shit, and he's stuck with 39 extra tickets and out nearly two grand.
So how did he do it? Does he have some app that attacks tickets.com with rapid-fire requests?
He must. I was on at 10:00:00 and never got through. All I saw was error messages saying that the system was too busy to handle my request and then another message that said there weren't enough tickets together in the section I requested, even though I selected 1 Gen Adm.
I agree that capitalism is a wonderful thing, but vultures like that bastard on CraigsList are just taking advantage of people.
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My bet is anyone with 40 tickets to sell minutes after they went on sale did not buy 40 when they went on sale. The person likely had an allotment marked for them. I have met folks that are proud to be "ticket brokers" that boast about their ability to obtain quantities of tickets before the public has had a crack at them, often at lower prices than the public will pay.
Jason
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I don't know, it seems doubtful to me that the 9:30 blocks off allotments of tickets to go to brokers like arenas/amphitheaters do. I would think it is more likely this guy found a way to hack the system.
For shows that are going to be instant sellouts, the 9:30 should try to have a system that actually rewards fans for effort, rather than who lucks out trying to navigate an overrun computer system which might note even be a level playing field (as this CL ad points out).
For shows like this, what about having a box office onsale for half of the ticket allotment for a couple of hours before the online onsale starts? That way people who really want the tickets can put in the effort to get them and get rewarded. I know that creates challenges and I have a job and kid, too, but it still seems much more fair to reward effort and not just be some random online crapshoot like it is now.
Then, the rest of the alloted tickets could go onsale online to give out of town people or others that don't want to put in the effort a shot at tix. This seems like a much better system to me, and one that would not be that hard to implement if the box office onsale was done at a time when the box office was open anyway.
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Is it just me, or is this just bad business sense on multiple levels? Why even tell people you have 40 tickets? Not only does it upset people, it also makes them think they can wait forever to buy your tickets. After all, nobody is selling 40 tickets in a weekend. They can wait around and see if your price drops.
Don't worry - if you got shut out, this guy will be in front of the club selling them at face value on the night of the show.
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Where's the link to this on your blog?
Is it just me, or is this just bad business sense on multiple levels? Why even tell people you have 40 tickets? Not only does it upset people, it also makes them think they can wait forever to buy your tickets. After all, nobody is selling 40 tickets in a weekend. They can wait around and see if your price drops.
Don't worry - if you got shut out, this guy will be in front of the club selling them at face value on the night of the show.
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guys, just go to the Baltimore show. There are still tickets to that show as I type this. ;D
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FYI guys, the person who posted that ad on craigslist was not serious... I emailed them to try to get them to see what the deal was, and it was a fake ad. It'd be impossible to pull 40 tickets to that show...
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Yay! This is getting fun!
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Logan's profile was public 15 minutes ago, but now that he's been exposed it's private.
But that's ok, I saved all his pics =) And I'm going to post them on CL along with his work address.
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* grabs popcorn *
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Logan's profile was public 15 minutes ago, but now that he's been exposed it's private.
But that's ok, I saved all his pics =) And I'm going to post them on CL along with his work address.
I'd advised strongly against this... and take your beef to PM or email or face getting banned from the forum
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I could care less about the forum. I only care about showing scumbag scalpers justice.
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This dude is a total fraud and guess what? I know who you are now and where you work. So yes, I'm contacting the authorities because what you're doing is illegal.
Well, I'm not sure this is the forum for threats. But, I'll let the moderators decide - as that of course is not up to me. However, if you check around, you'll find what he's doing is not illegal at all. Ticket brokers sit in offices and do it, and have for decades in Washington DC. The last I heard, the only thing illegal was to sell at the venue on the night of a show for above cost.
Feel free to follow up on that - I may be wrong. But, "I know who you are now and where you work," seems a little out of line to me. Just my opinion...
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* grabs popcorn *
LOL - hilarious.
It does appear Kosmo has this firmly in-hand however. I think soon enough there'll be someone shouting, "Ok people, move along. Shows over - nothing to see here."
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I could care less about the forum. I only care about showing scumbag scalpers justice.
then find some other place to perform this "justice"
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so everyone is sticking up for a scumbag that buys up all the tickets and immediately posts them on ebay at over 100% face value. Ha, so be it.
I'll take care of it myself.
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so everyone is sticking up for a scumbag that buys up all the tickets and immediately posts them on ebay at over 100% face value. Ha, so be it.
I'll take care of it myself.
if there is actual evidence of scalping taking place on the forum, then users get banned.... note much can be done if it's happening outside of the forum
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You do realize a lot less time and energy could be spent buying tickets for the show in Baltimore, which as of noon are still available
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i got a pair.
you should consider lending them to walkonby, who is afraid of getting shot on U st. i've been telling him to grow some for years, maybe loaners are the way to go.
damn dude, i just read this. good one. it's a shame that kosmo is shutting us down; i'm assuming that is what he meant in that other thread. i've enjoied our tennis net banter. cheers. and i don't like modest mouse. plus growing is illegal.
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i got a pair.
you should consider lending them to walkonby, who is afraid of getting shot on U st. i've been telling him to grow some for years, maybe loaners are the way to go.
damn dude, i just read this. good one. it's a shame that kosmo is shutting us down; i'm assuming that is what he meant in that other thread. i've enjoied our tennis net banter. cheers. and i don't like modest mouse. plus growing is illegal.
Double Entendre is GOOD, something this board always needs more of
Tifts over scalpers are so yesterday
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Obv. scalping isn't illegal...but how did this guy obtain so many tickets in the first place?
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Obv. scalping isn't illegal...but how did this guy obtain so many tickets in the first place?
hackers make the world of computers go around. someone should ban them before computers are killing us like in terminator and christian bale is yelling at us.
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Well apparently Logan Sease does contracting for the Department of Homeland Security--according to his Facebook page, "The #1 Job in America... I finally did something right http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bestjobs/2007/"
That's right, Logan, especially since you learn how to hack computers!!
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You guys do realize that the general consensus is that Modest Mouse sucks live, right? And that Johnny Marr isn't on the tour...
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You guys do realize that the general consensus is that Modest Mouse sucks live, right? And that Johnny Marr isn't on the tour...
Yeah, I'm just wondering why anyone would buy and then bother to sell 40 tickets to MM....
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You guys do realize that the general consensus is that Modest Mouse sucks live, right? And that Johnny Marr isn't on the tour...
Just curious, why do people think that? I've seen them a few times and don't see why it would be common conception that they suck live.
For example, I know lots of people on this board bitched about the opening set for REM. Can someone tell me specifically what they didn't like about it. It seemed fine, but not great, to me.
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I think they sound better in a club setting as compared to an outdoor festival type.
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I just found out my old buddy Tom from Richmond (anyone remember a band called King Sour from there??) has played on the last 2 modest mouse records as the "multi-instrumentalist" or whatever, playing fiddle and other things presumably....not sure he tours with them but i know he does some of the shows.
I've never actually heard Modest Mouse so none of this really matters to me, except that I'm glad my old friend has found this success.....
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You guys do realize that the general consensus is that Modest Mouse sucks live, right? And that Johnny Marr isn't on the tour...
Just curious, why do people think that? I've seen them a few times and don't see why it would be common conception that they suck live.
For example, I know lots of people on this board bitched about the opening set for REM. Can someone tell me specifically what they didn't like about it. It seemed fine, but not great, to me.
I wanted to go but missed out on tickets.
From like 1996-1999 I saw them quite a few times and they were just boring as hell live, it seriously sucked. Didn't live up to their music at all. So, I stopped going to see them. I still absolutely loved them and snatched up their records whenever they came out. It just wasn't worth it to pay to see them live.
Then the REM show came around. I'd seen REM several times, never dissapointed. Modest Mouse was opening, so I figured I'd go. Not to mention i work in Columbia, so it was a short trip.
Anyway.. I'm not sure what it was.. maybe Johnny Maar re-invigorated them or something. But they had a good amount of energy and it was fun. Granted.. not the best show ever, but for them.. for what I remembered years ago.. it was phenomenal.
So yeah.. I wanted to see them again in a good venue and see if the magic was still there. But can also easily see why people think they're no good live.
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It seemed fine, but not great, to me.
they're un-engaging. i've never seen them connect with the audience. first time i saw them, they looked bored. but most/worse of all is the gulf between their studio work and their live shows. if i walked in to a random bar and the band on stage was as good as modest mouse, i'd be damn impressed. knowing what they are capable of, and how little they deliver on stage, makes it worse for them. it's a question of expectations.
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Isaac just sounds like a retarded kid singing.
i've given up on them a couple years ago. Used to see them for $10. EVERY show is a blur to me. It was that bad.
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How many bands actually sound better in an outdoor festival setting than in a club setting? That's right, none.
I think they sound better in a club setting as compared to an outdoor festival type.
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Ding ding ding...we have a winner!
Isaac just sounds like a retarded kid singing.
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Thanks, these comments help me understand people's beef with them in a live setting. I can't say I disagree with the un-engaging part.
One beef I have had is set length. On the Good News... tour the headlining show I saw was about 75-80 min, which just seems way too brief for a band with as many records playing that big of a show. Sort of like Beck's show at the Patriot Center a few years ago. Both had one-song encores after way too short sets.
I didn't see them at Virgin Fest, but someone told me they ended early there, too, which is pretty sad when you are given a shortened festival set time. Come to think of it, Beck ended up set at ACL last year about 20 minutes early, too.
At least you can't call Beck un-engaging.
One funny Modest Mouse story, I was once with my wife at a restaurant for brunch and someone working there put on Moon and Antarctica as the background music in the restaurant. I was eagerly awaiting the "anyone can easily fuck you over" refrain in about the third song. The music got yanked and replaced at that point.
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You guys do realize that the general consensus is that Modest Mouse sucks live, right? And that Johnny Marr isn't on the tour...
BAH! Johnny's just ducking Morrissey since he's in DC that weekend as well LOL
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How many bands actually sound better in an outdoor festival setting than in a club setting? That's right, none.
I think they sound better in a club setting as compared to an outdoor festival type.
Radiohead
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I remember seeing Modest Mouse in 1998 and being very underwhelmed by them live.
I also remember seeing Modest Mouse in 2005 and was even more underwhelmed by them live.
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Radiohead
oh good one, although we're only seconds away from a hipster predictably saying "they sound bad everywhere" ::)
and although this is a fringe example, i've heard several electronic acts that sounded way better at an outdoor festival than they did in a club. to be fair, odds were stacked in favor of the festivals: they were geared towards electronic music so they had specific PAs and technicians who knew how to set up the system, as opposed to using a club's PA which might have been designed with more general purposes in minx. also, outdoors = no/less echo, no standing waves, don't have to tune the system to the room, etc.
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This thread doesn't even rank in the Top 15 all-time scalper/shut out bitch sessions from this board. The jury is out on whether this says more about Modest Mouse or their fans.
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Too bad I got shut out as well, but i will be at Rams Head for the Thursday show and will be standing outside of the 930 one hoping someone is selling.
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I'm no saint by any means
but I can tell you that in my 30 years of doing this, I have never sold a single ticket to a scalper, and wouldn't if I though that's what someone was up to
so I don't know where or how these people get tickets, but it ain't from us
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I got a pair!
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I got a pair!
Please wait here while I fetch my magnifying glass.....
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I got a pair!
highly debatable.
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I'm no saint by any means
It's Lieutenant Hurwitz. Severe shell-shock. Thinks he's Ethel Merman.