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Title: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 21, 2017, 11:52:26 am
John Conyers:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/paulmcleod/she-complained-that-a-powerful-congressman-harassed-her?utm_term=.wuM1W9YZw#.tuDVGKEkq

Oliver Stone:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oliver-stone-accused-groping-tv-actress-early-1990s-1048468
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 21, 2017, 12:33:22 pm
(https://nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/arianna_h-_al_franken_harry_benson_2000_lg.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=500)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on November 21, 2017, 01:17:17 pm
Yikes
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 21, 2017, 05:49:38 pm
John Conyers:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/paulmcleod/she-complained-that-a-powerful-congressman-harassed-her?utm_term=.wuM1W9YZw#.tuDVGKEkq


on a side note, who the hell votes for an 88 year old?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 21, 2017, 05:50:30 pm
(http://epguides.com/Ropers/cast.jpg)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 21, 2017, 06:11:47 pm
The co-founder of Pixar.

(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/11/22/business/22PIXAR1/merlin_129860052_ad4ae47f-346a-4c3e-97b9-15a2922ed11b-blog427.jpg)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2017, 08:12:46 pm
nytimes is keeping this up to date
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/11/10/us/men-accused-sexual-misconduct-weinstein.html
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 21, 2017, 10:03:15 pm
Ron Jeremy

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/inside-ron-jeremy-sexual-misconduct-allegations-w511844
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 22, 2017, 09:59:49 am
Ron Jeremy

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/inside-ron-jeremy-sexual-misconduct-allegations-w511844
almost seems like it should go in the Onion thread
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 22, 2017, 11:27:39 am
Nick Carter

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/backstreet-boys-nick-carter-accused-of-rape-w512416
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 23, 2017, 11:31:21 am
Two More Women Accuse Sen. Al Franken Of Inappropriate Touching  (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/two-more-women-accuse-sen-al-franken-of-inappropriate-touching/ar-BBFvYfm?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 25, 2017, 06:31:09 pm
(https://www.billboard.com/bbbiz/photos/stylus//1202259-Seth-Hurwitz-Richard-Brason-Grace-Potter-617.jpg)

The one on the right (https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/richard-branson-accused-of-sexual-assault-by-joss-stone’s-backup-singer/ar-BBFCtai?li=AA2qN5v&ocid=spartandhp)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on November 25, 2017, 06:58:08 pm
I xperience similar sucky emotions on this thread to dropping like flies
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 28, 2017, 12:22:06 pm
https://mobile.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/11/28/us/ap-us-congress-sexual-misconduct-conyers.html
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 29, 2017, 08:40:21 am
(https://tribwpmt.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/872271992.jpg?quality=85&strip=all&w=612)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on November 29, 2017, 08:50:30 am
Now that one would not surprise me.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 29, 2017, 09:06:03 am
(https://tribwpmt.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/872271992.jpg?quality=85&strip=all&w=612)
Similar to Louis CK, not surprised at all. Maybe my creep radar is just more finely attuned than most.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 29, 2017, 09:09:33 am
Wow, Matt Lauer was just fired from NBC for “inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace.” But when will the top executives at NBC & Comcast be fired for putting out so much Fake News. Check out Andy Lack’s past!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/935844881825763328
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: excontradiction on November 29, 2017, 09:12:35 am
Maybe my creep radar is just more finely attuned than most.

So you have groper-radar? Shame on you for not exposing these creeps sooner!  Who else is on your secret list?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2017, 09:16:28 am
Count me in the "previously thought Lauer was a creep" category. I guess he's not really a star.

(https://pics.me.me/when-youre-a-star-they-let-you-do-it-grab-4559170.png)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 29, 2017, 09:20:00 am
Maybe my creep radar is just more finely attuned than most.

So you have groper-radar? Shame on you for not exposing these creeps sooner!  Who else is on your secret list?
Robert Downey Jr, Charie Sheen, Richard Branson, Steven Spielberg, Brian Kelly, Jay-Z, Drew Carey, Malcolm Gladwell, Prince Harry, Gene Wilder, Conor Oberst, Joel Olsteen, Ray LaMontagne et al.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 29, 2017, 09:22:40 am
Robert Downey Jr, Charie Sheen,

Really going out on a limb there....
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 29, 2017, 09:36:09 am
(https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2017/11/08/08-jeffrey-tambor-2.w190.h190.2x.jpg)

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/11/jeffrey-tambor-leaves-transparent-sexual-misconduct-allegations
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: excontradiction on November 29, 2017, 11:27:08 am
Maybe my creep radar is just more finely attuned than most.

So you have groper-radar? Shame on you for not exposing these creeps sooner!  Who else is on your secret list?
Robert Downey Jr, Charie Sheen, Richard Branson, Steven Spielberg, Brian Kelly, Jay-Z, Drew Carey, Malcolm Gladwell, Prince Harry, Gene Wilder, Conor Oberst, Joel Olsteen, Ray LaMontagne et al.

Pretty sure you missed the ball on Gene Wilder.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 29, 2017, 12:02:08 pm
Maybe my creep radar is just more finely attuned than most.

So you have groper-radar? Shame on you for not exposing these creeps sooner!  Who else is on your secret list?
Robert Downey Jr, Charie Sheen, Richard Branson, Steven Spielberg, Brian Kelly, Jay-Z, Drew Carey, Malcolm Gladwell, Prince Harry, Gene Wilder, Conor Oberst, Joel Olsteen, Ray LaMontagne et al.
Pretty sure you missed the ball on Gene Wilder.
A grope is a grope, bro.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on November 29, 2017, 12:14:19 pm
 curious about what happened to innocence until proven guilty?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 29, 2017, 12:25:01 pm
curious about what happened to innocence until proven guilty?
I know, that is the biggest issue right now
I think that a lot of these current ones are probably are guilty, but what's to stop people from just contacting news outlets and saying "Obama groped me" and then they run with the story

I really think people should be filing police reports and not posting on twitter
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 29, 2017, 12:31:04 pm
curious about what happened to innocence until proven guilty?
No one is being incarcerated without a trial over these allegations, so innocent until proven guilty is still in play.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2017, 01:50:30 pm
curious about what happened to innocence until proven guilty?
No one is being incarcerated without a trial over these allegations, so innocent until proven guilty is still in play.

Well yeah, except in the eyes of their employer.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 29, 2017, 01:53:45 pm
I'm shocked Julian didn't have Garrison Keilor on his list.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 29, 2017, 02:04:18 pm
curious about what happened to innocence until proven guilty?

Somebody sounds a little defensive...
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on November 29, 2017, 03:05:20 pm
I'm shocked Julian didn't have Garrison Keilor on his list.
Great call. Definitely a diddler. Total oversight on my part.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 29, 2017, 03:36:02 pm
Well yeah, except in the eyes of their employer.

Generally, the only limitations for a private employer firing someone (non-union) is if the termination is based on the employee's race, gender, national origin, disability, religion or age (so long as the employee is at least 40 years old).

Just about everything else is fair game, so long as it's not retaliatory for whistle blowing, but even then, good luck getting your job back. 

And most of these have gone through a human resources review, which is just about all the employer needs.

Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on November 30, 2017, 11:23:09 am
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/30/politics/al-franken-groping-allegation/index.html
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 30, 2017, 02:37:37 pm
(https://i0.wp.com/theintrepidangler.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/UW-Gag-Grouper-2000.jpg)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on November 30, 2017, 05:23:26 pm
(http://media.nj.com/entertainment_impact_tv/photo/geraldo-rivera-injuryjpg-7a1970bc6e1d0c39_large.jpg)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on November 30, 2017, 05:39:09 pm
(https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Garrison_Keillor_6190507095.jpg)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 30, 2017, 08:43:21 pm
(https://i0.wp.com/theintrepidangler.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/UW-Gag-Grouper-2000.jpg)
isn't that a grouper?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 01, 2017, 12:52:52 am
Adrock's dad
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: excontradiction on December 01, 2017, 09:52:07 am
Maybe my creep radar is just more finely attuned than most.

So you have groper-radar? Shame on you for not exposing these creeps sooner!  Who else is on your secret list?
Robert Downey Jr, Charie Sheen, Richard Branson, Steven Spielberg, Brian Kelly, Jay-Z, Drew Carey, Malcolm Gladwell, Prince Harry, Gene Wilder, Conor Oberst, Joel Olsteen, Ray LaMontagne et al.
Pretty sure you missed the ball on Gene Wilder.
A grope is a grope, bro.

Theres a "cold, dead hand" joke somewhere in there.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 01, 2017, 10:07:51 am
Does sexual harassment happen as much among non-celebrities as it seems to happen among celebrities? Honestly, I'm kind of shocked by all if this. I thought only rude, coarse, low-life construction worker type men acted like this. How naive I was.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 01, 2017, 10:11:49 am
Its not about men but power.....people with power use it to get what they want no matter how inappropriate and illegal...


Also America's obsession with money does not help. It is all about making $....People exploit and take advantage of this sad reality...
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 01, 2017, 07:02:55 pm
isn't that a grouper?

Yes, that's the joke.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on December 01, 2017, 07:10:00 pm
I would also like to add both Manning brothers, Bill Simmons, Paul Ryan, and Jim jefferies to the list of people who set off my groper radar.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 01, 2017, 07:33:11 pm
I would also like to add both Manning brothers, Bill Simmons, Paul Ryan, and Jim jefferies to the list of people who set off my groper radar.

unfortunately you get no points for calling out jim jeffries.  he admits to being a sleaze and a horrible person.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on December 01, 2017, 10:00:38 pm
I would also like to add both Manning brothers, Bill Simmons, Paul Ryan, and Jim jefferies to the list of people who set off my groper radar.

unfortunately you get no points for calling out jim jeffries.  he admits to being a sleaze and a horrible person.
This is not about points. This is about awareness. If you sense something, say something.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 04, 2017, 01:01:30 pm
(http://www.metopera.org/metoperafiles/artist_pages/2015-16/Levine,%20James.jpg)

The Metropolitan Opera suspended James Levine, its revered conductor and former music director, on Sunday after three men came forward with accusations that Mr. Levine sexually abused them decades ago, when the men were teenagers.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on December 04, 2017, 01:42:05 pm
(http://www.metopera.org/metoperafiles/artist_pages/2015-16/Levine,%20James.jpg)
I have no idea who that is, but just by looking at him, I could tell you he is a pervy weirdo.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 04, 2017, 06:26:55 pm
Robert Downey Jr, Charie Sheen, Richard Branson, Steven Spielberg, Brian Kelly, Jay-Z, Drew Carey, Malcolm Gladwell, Prince Harry, Gene Wilder, Conor Oberst, Joel Olsteen, Ray LaMontagne et al.

Just saw an ad on FB that Bob Saget is performing in Berkeley this weekend, but before I knew it was an ad, I thought he was the next to go down.  Upon seeing it was just an ad, I though, "how is he not on Julian's list?  Or Uncle Joey for that matter?" 
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2017, 01:20:38 pm
Upcoming predictions unless this 15 minutes of news cycle has already moved on from sexual harassment.

Ryan Seacrest
Simon Cowell
Randy Jackson
Jeff Probst
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 05, 2017, 01:30:22 pm
Upcoming predictions unless this 15 minutes of news cycle has already moved on from sexual harassment.

Ryan Seacrest
Simon Cowell
Randy Jackson
Jeff Probst

For Seacrest, would it be groping other men, or groping women?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on December 05, 2017, 02:12:08 pm
Upcoming predictions unless this 15 minutes of news cycle has already moved on from sexual harassment.

Ryan Seacrest
Simon Cowell
Randy Jackson
Jeff Probst

For Seacrest, would it be groping other men, or groping women?
People sub-5'2", regardless of gender.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 05, 2017, 07:09:10 pm
Some dude from a Netflix series and the Church of Scientology (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/business/media/danny-masterson-fired-netflix.html)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 05, 2017, 08:17:13 pm
(https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fewedit.files.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F12%2Fgettyimages-632964550.jpg%3Fw%3D450&w=800&q=85)


Robert Knepper
Prison Break, etc dude

http://ew.com/tv/2017/12/05/robert-knepper-sexual-misconduct-accusations
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 05, 2017, 10:55:59 pm
Some chick that was on the Voice.

http://people.com/music/melanie-martinez-denies-allegations-sexual-assault-former-friend/
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 07, 2017, 09:23:53 am
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.3104673.1493241782!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_320/warren-moon.jpg)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/retired-nfl-star-warren-moon-is-sued-for-sexual-harassment/ar-BBGjPtC?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 07, 2017, 08:19:31 pm
20-30 more members of Congress?

https://twitter.com/mikehtrujillo/status/938815136571129856
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 07, 2017, 09:21:10 pm
I wish Americans could draw a distinction between pedophiles and rapists and people who cop a feel but apparently its all the same now...arguably copping a feel, or taking an inappropriate picture is a worse offense judging by the consequences...

Feeling sad and bitter...






Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 07, 2017, 09:34:59 pm
I wish Americans could draw a distinction between pedophiles and rapists and people who cop a feel but apparently its all the same now...arguably copping a feel, or taking an inappropriate picture is a worse offense judging by the consequences...

Feeling sad and bitter...

yup
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: excontradiction on December 07, 2017, 10:06:32 pm
I wish Americans could draw a distinction between pedophiles and rapists and people who cop a feel but apparently its all the same now...arguably copping a feel, or taking an inappropriate picture is a worse offense judging by the consequences...

Feeling sad and bitter...








Which of these is ok?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 07, 2017, 10:28:06 pm
^Exhibit A of the American who cannot draw distinctions
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: excontradiction on December 07, 2017, 10:41:49 pm
No, tell me.  Which should we be ok with?


Do you feel persecuted for doing some of these things without consent?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 07, 2017, 10:53:23 pm
I think he's defending the serial gropers.  Apparently groping women is de rigeur in his native Latin America.

"For women it’s particularly important to keep your wits as much as possible. In the huge clubs and notorious pick-up joints of Buenos Aires — some of the Irish bars of the Retiro neighborhood jump to mind — women may receive unwanted random groping from young men who can’t handle their alcohol. "

http://www.humanosphere.org/human-rights/2016/01/women-in-latin-american-cities-face-higher-rates-of-sexual-assault-and-the-number-is-growing/

Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: excontradiction on December 07, 2017, 11:05:12 pm
Ive heard the tokyo subway is a creeperfest too. 
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 08, 2017, 10:01:31 am
Director of the X-Men series (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/07/movies/bryan-singer-sexual-assault.html)

And another Congressperson (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/04/blake-farenthold-sexual-harass-greene-278869)

(https://am14.akamaized.net/med/cnt/uploads/2017/07/farenthold-650x462.png)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 08, 2017, 10:53:34 am
No not defending it...sorry you could not grasp the point...again proving my point..
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 08, 2017, 11:00:30 am
No not defending it...sorry you could not grasp the point...again proving my point..

Your point being that Franken is less bad than Weinstein because groping at least eight women during photo ops is less bad than using your position of power to coerce more than 40 women to have sex with you (and possibly raping a couple who refused the coercion).  Yes, we simple-minded Americans get the distinction.  But that distinction matters little because a sexual predator is still a sexual predator.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2017, 11:16:44 am
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5079685/miss-bum-bum-champion-rosie-oliveira-groped-sao-paulo/
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 08, 2017, 11:20:58 am
Actually, the distinction does matter when we as a society mete out punishment for the guilty parties. Only a simpleton would think Moore should be in a better position at this point than Franken.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2017, 12:03:26 pm
Actually, the distinction does matter when we as a society mete out punishment for the guilty parties. Only a simpleton would think Moore should be in a better position at this point than Franken.

Nothing worse than agreeing with Space, but I do.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 08, 2017, 12:13:40 pm
Actually, the distinction does matter when we as a society mete out punishment for the guilty parties. Only a simpleton would think Moore should be in a better position at this point than Franken.

Nothing worse than agreeing with Space, but I do.
That's why there are different levels of felonies and misdemeanors.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on December 08, 2017, 12:24:27 pm
Actually, the distinction does matter when we as a society mete out punishment for the guilty parties. Only a simpleton would think Moore should be in a better position at this point than Franken.

Nothing worse than agreeing with Space, but I do.
That's why there are different levels of felonies and misdemeanors.

I'm not saying it's not disgusting and not a crime, but when lumping in someone who takes racy photos or grabs an ass/breast vs. pedophile and rape, yeah, it's a pretty big difference.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 08, 2017, 12:36:54 pm
I'm agreeing with you. First degree murder is not the same as involuntary manslaughter. I wish people would distinguish, because Roy Moore is by far a way bigger piece of shit than Al Franken. That being said, both are pieces of shit nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 08, 2017, 12:56:14 pm
Ha ha Al Franken is a sexual predator???


When you equate him with Moore or Weinstein you really show you do not know what you are talking about.

Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: excontradiction on December 08, 2017, 12:56:28 pm
Neither one should take a leadership role in this country, and neither should be in a position of power.  One of them more neither than the other.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 08, 2017, 12:59:46 pm
Ha ha Al Franken is a sexual predator???


When you equate him with Moore or Weinstein you really show you do not know what you are talking about.


Franken's not a sexual predator?  The number of women who have claimed he groped them or more is currently at eight and has been growing in recent days.

So what is your threshold for what qualifies as sexual predation?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 08, 2017, 01:09:40 pm
I felt about a week ago that he needed to and should resign but part of the reason is the sheer idiocy of the American people - as we see on this thread- with people calling someone who one could better classify as somewhat lecherous as a sexual predator...

Grabbing an ass cheek is tantamount to rape? Wow

I fucking hate to think of all the men out there who have asked for a blow job using every reason they could think of to get one from an unwilling partner


And calling Al Franken a "piece of shit"?  Wow. He definitely exhibited inappropriate behavior assuming the accounts are true as I have to think they are..but that is about it and you have to take a life in totality..
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 08, 2017, 01:12:03 pm
Out on this thread..total waste of time..you have your scalp..feel superior now as you call him a sexual predator and piece of shit.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 08, 2017, 01:56:30 pm
Nobody is equating grabbing an ass cheek with rape, so lose the strawman. 

That being said, one ass grabbing is a lapse of judgment. Eight instances over a decade is a pattern. Is this less bad than rape? Sure. Manslaughter is less bad than first degree murder, but both are homicides. Sorry you foreigners can't grasp the nuances.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on December 08, 2017, 02:01:52 pm
Just want to remind people that while we do not have a living breathing moderator body that has the testicular fortitude to ban the scourge on our community that is Hutch, we do have the block feature. Be the change you want to see in the world. I’ve been hutch free for months and it’s wonderful.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 08, 2017, 03:55:04 pm
It sounds like Hutch's wife won't give him a blow job.

Offer her a nice massage or scratch her back while you're having a Netflix night.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 08, 2017, 05:51:05 pm
Actually, the distinction does matter when we as a society mete out punishment for the guilty parties. Only a simpleton would think Moore should be in a better position at this point than Franken.

Nothing worse than agreeing with Space, but I do.
That's why there are different levels of felonies and misdemeanors.

I'm not saying it's not disgusting and not a crime, but when lumping in someone who takes racy photos or grabs an ass/breast vs. pedophile and rape, yeah, it's a pretty big difference.

Since we're drawing distinctions, technically, Moore is possibly a rapist, but not a pedophile. Still, far, far worse than what Franken did, imo. Not that I'm excusing Franken for his atrocious behavior.

Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 09, 2017, 05:27:06 pm
only in Michigan... (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/dana-nessel-campaign-ad_us_5a1f1116e4b0d52b8dc25af9)
but gotta say it's a hard case to argue

(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5a1f1237140000196c50fe3d.png?cache=xtt10p2b2a&ops=1910_1000)

news is going so fast stuff like this just doesn't get noticed
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 11, 2017, 02:21:06 pm
Mario Batali
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 11, 2017, 06:24:01 pm
Ryan Lizza
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 11, 2017, 07:49:52 pm
Ryan Lizza

Never heard of him. Is this someone famous or just one of your friends?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 11, 2017, 08:05:47 pm
NPR host Tom Ashbrook
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 11, 2017, 08:26:20 pm
Ryan Lizza

Never heard of him. Is this someone famous or just one of your friends?

He is a pretty well known reporter.

Are you trying to say I am a groper and by extension so are my friends because I think that while what Al Franken did is wrong and he should have resigned he should not be lumped in with Moore and Weinstein?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 11, 2017, 08:38:24 pm
Ryan Lizza

Never heard of him. Is this someone famous or just one of your friends?

He is a pretty well known reporter.

Are you trying to say I am a groper and by extension so are my friends because I think that while what Al Franken did is wrong and he should have resigned he should not be lumped in with Moore and Weinstein?

Nope, not at all.

And I'm pretty sure i was someone who actually (somewhat) agreed with you in terms of the Franken vs. Moore/Weinstein distinction.

It would jsut be helpful to say "Reporter Ryan Lizza." I didn't know who Tom Ashbrook was, either. But I know he's an NPR guy thanks to GGW prefacing the name with the job title. I wonder if he's a friend of Relaxer?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 11, 2017, 10:38:38 pm
Larry King
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 12, 2017, 10:53:08 am
A bunch of NFL Network employees and former players (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/sports/marshall-faulk-nfl-network-sexual-harassment.html)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 13, 2017, 09:07:53 am
Celebrity NYC Restaurateur Ken Friedman (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/dining/ken-friedman-sexual-harassment.html)

Head of the NYC Ballet (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/12/arts/dance/peter-martins-ballet-new-york-city-physical-abuse.html)

Netflix Exec Who Defended Netflix Star (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/netflix-exec-who-told-alleged-danny-masterson-victim-company-didnt-believe-claims-no-longer-employed/ar-BBGFnuP?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 13, 2017, 10:10:01 pm
Tavis Smiley

the American dude judge on Great American Baking show.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 13, 2017, 10:43:39 pm
the super size me dude
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on December 14, 2017, 12:11:59 am
Oh
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 14, 2017, 12:54:44 am
Yesterday: GOP lawmaker accused of rape sings about baby Jesus at press conference before calling victim a liar (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/gop-lawmaker-accused-of-rape-sings-about-baby-jesus-at-press-conference-before-calling-victim-a-liar/)

Today: Kentucky lawmaker who was accused of molesting a teenage girl likely killed himself, coroner says (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/12/13/kentucky-lawmaker-who-was-accused-of-molesting-a-teenage-girl-likely-killed-himself-coroner-says/)


(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/500x/37162448/well-that-escalated-quickly.jpg)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 14, 2017, 09:40:11 am
turning out pastry chef dude is a real creep
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: excontradiction on December 17, 2017, 07:01:53 pm
Those cinnamon rolls, tho.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 17, 2017, 09:56:36 pm
The owner of the Charlotte Panthers.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: lily1 on December 18, 2017, 08:03:55 am
The reality is that probably a sizeable* of the world's heterosexual have done something untoward a woman (straight, bi, trans, etc.)

At least 3 times a week, sometimes every workday, I have some asshole(s) beeping at me, hanging out of their vehicle yelling something obscene or flat out driving along the side of me trying to get my attention as I walk the 10 minutes from the metro to the office (I work in the suburbs and commute out from DC.)

The best this year? Some creepy fuck stranger pulled into the parking lot and go out of the car and walked in with me to the building, got on the elevator (open building unfortunately), tried to make small talk regarding Tom Petty's passing, and then decided to attempt to ask me out.  All in the span of about 4 minutes. At 8.24 am on a Tuesday.

Now, my experiences do not compare at all with men or women who were victims of any sort of unwanted/unconsented physical/sexual activity. But it is a good example of every day harassment.  And if these assholes are doing this, who knows what else they are doing.

*edited because the value I provided prior is arbitrary with no data to back it up.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on December 18, 2017, 10:18:22 am
Men are pigs, yes . . . but what I find fascinating, is that, in the gay world, these types of overly sexual advances and acting like aggressive testosterone assholes, are the qualities from men they want.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 18, 2017, 11:17:55 am
The reality is that probably at least 3/4 of the world's heterosexual have done something untoward a woman (straight, bi, trans, etc.)

At least 3 times a week, sometimes every workday, I have some asshole(s) beeping at me, hanging out of their vehicle yelling something obscene or flat out driving along the side of me trying to get my attention as I walk the 10 minutes from the metro to the office (I work in the suburbs and commute out from DC.)

The best this year? Some creepy fuck stranger pulled into the parking lot and go out of the car and walked in with me to the building, got on the elevator (open building unfortunately), tried to make small talk regarding Tom Petty's passing, and then decided to attempt to ask me out.  All in the span of about 4 minutes. At 8.24 am on a Tuesday.

Now, my experiences do not compare at all with men or women who were victims of any sort of unwanted/unconsented physical/sexual activity. But it is a good example of every day harassment.  And if these assholes are doing this, who knows what else they are doing.

As someone who is basically quiet and shy, I personally would never have been that bold in my single days, but what exactly is so egregious and "creepy" about the behavior I bolded? It's certainly not sexual harassment. Is it possible the guy worked in the building and just happened to be pulling into his work parking lot and was taking the elevator to his workplace at 8:24am and was making small talk with a pretty woman he saw on the elevator? Are we going to make it a crime to ask someone  you find attractive out?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on December 18, 2017, 11:26:14 am
The reality is that probably at least 3/4 of the world's heterosexual have done something untoward a woman (straight, bi, trans, etc.)
Depends how you define "untoward" I guess.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 18, 2017, 11:52:37 am
The reality is that probably at least 3/4 of the world's heterosexual have done something untoward a woman (straight, bi, trans, etc.)

At least 3 times a week, sometimes every workday, I have some asshole(s) beeping at me, hanging out of their vehicle yelling something obscene or flat out driving along the side of me trying to get my attention as I walk the 10 minutes from the metro to the office (I work in the suburbs and commute out from DC.)

The best this year? Some creepy fuck stranger pulled into the parking lot and go out of the car and walked in with me to the building, got on the elevator (open building unfortunately), tried to make small talk regarding Tom Petty's passing, and then decided to attempt to ask me out.  All in the span of about 4 minutes. At 8.24 am on a Tuesday.

Now, my experiences do not compare at all with men or women who were victims of any sort of unwanted/unconsented physical/sexual activity. But it is a good example of every day harassment.  And if these assholes are doing this, who knows what else they are doing.

As someone who is basically quiet and shy, I personally would never have been that bold in my single days, but what exactly is so egregious and "creepy" about the behavior I bolded? It's certainly not sexual harassment. Is it possible the guy worked in the building and just happened to be pulling into his work parking lot and was taking the elevator to his workplace at 8:24am and was making small talk with a pretty woman he saw on the elevator? Are we going to make it a crime to ask someone  you find attractive out?

"Some creepy fuck stranger"
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 20, 2017, 03:58:21 pm
(https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2017/12/20/20-meryl-streep-she-knew.w710.h473.jpg)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/meryl-streep-targeted-by-street-artists-with-she-knew-posters/ar-BBH2syk

Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on December 21, 2017, 11:52:45 am
(https://www.artyfactory.com/art_appreciation/portraits/chuck_close/chuck-close-self-portrait.jpg)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: lily1 on December 22, 2017, 12:18:37 am
That's a fair question and one that I actually got when I was relaying this event to a male colleague.

This individual did not work in my building and had no business in the building. I was able to ascertain that very quickly when I sussed him out with a quick question to confirm this.  In fact he told me he had seen me prior, presumably as he was driving down the street, and this time decided to quickly pull into the lot, park and jump out of his car to follow me when I was on the approach into the building and then hop the elevator with me.

I will add that he told me that he was riding with me to my floor to try to talk to me after the doors closed and I had no way to escape as the other floor was secured for another client and thus I could not exit until it hit my floor to which I hauled ass to my office and it's camera and locked door.

That creeped me out.
 
Does that help give more context?

The reality is that probably at least 3/4 of the world's heterosexual have done something untoward a woman (straight, bi, trans, etc.)

At least 3 times a week, sometimes every workday, I have some asshole(s) beeping at me, hanging out of their vehicle yelling something obscene or flat out driving along the side of me trying to get my attention as I walk the 10 minutes from the metro to the office (I work in the suburbs and commute out from DC.)

The best this year? Some creepy fuck stranger pulled into the parking lot and go out of the car and walked in with me to the building, got on the elevator (open building unfortunately), tried to make small talk regarding Tom Petty's passing, and then decided to attempt to ask me out.  All in the span of about 4 minutes. At 8.24 am on a Tuesday.

Now, my experiences do not compare at all with men or women who were victims of any sort of unwanted/unconsented physical/sexual activity. But it is a good example of every day harassment.  And if these assholes are doing this, who knows what else they are doing.

As someone who is basically quiet and shy, I personally would never have been that bold in my single days, but what exactly is so egregious and "creepy" about the behavior I bolded? It's certainly not sexual harassment. Is it possible the guy worked in the building and just happened to be pulling into his work parking lot and was taking the elevator to his workplace at 8:24am and was making small talk with a pretty woman he saw on the elevator? Are we going to make it a crime to ask someone  you find attractive out?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: lily1 on December 22, 2017, 12:22:21 am
It was improper of me to throw out that unsubstantiated 3/4 figure. I'll own that and correct that.

That said, you are correct, "untoward" has many meanings and can vary depending on the setting.  And further to that, one person may consider the action harassment and another does not.

I'd just like to have an entire week where I walk to the office and it's entirely uneventful. That's my request to Santa this year. 

The reality is that probably at least 3/4 of the world's heterosexual have done something untoward a woman (straight, bi, trans, etc.)
Depends how you define "untoward" I guess.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 22, 2017, 09:38:09 am
That's a fair question and one that I actually got when I was relaying this event to a male colleague.

This individual did not work in my building and had no business in the building. I was able to ascertain that very quickly when I sussed him out with a quick question to confirm this.  In fact he told me he had seen me prior, presumably as he was driving down the street, and this time decided to quickly pull into the lot, park and jump out of his car to follow me when I was on the approach into the building and then hop the elevator with me.

I will add that he told me that he was riding with me to my floor to try to talk to me after the doors closed and I had no way to escape as the other floor was secured for another client and thus I could not exit until it hit my floor to which I hauled ass to my office and it's camera and locked door.

That creeped me out.
 
Does that help give more context?

The reality is that probably at least 3/4 of the world's heterosexual have done something untoward a woman (straight, bi, trans, etc.)

At least 3 times a week, sometimes every workday, I have some asshole(s) beeping at me, hanging out of their vehicle yelling something obscene or flat out driving along the side of me trying to get my attention as I walk the 10 minutes from the metro to the office (I work in the suburbs and commute out from DC.)

The best this year? Some creepy fuck stranger pulled into the parking lot and go out of the car and walked in with me to the building, got on the elevator (open building unfortunately), tried to make small talk regarding Tom Petty's passing, and then decided to attempt to ask me out.  All in the span of about 4 minutes. At 8.24 am on a Tuesday.

Now, my experiences do not compare at all with men or women who were victims of any sort of unwanted/unconsented physical/sexual activity. But it is a good example of every day harassment.  And if these assholes are doing this, who knows what else they are doing.

As someone who is basically quiet and shy, I personally would never have been that bold in my single days, but what exactly is so egregious and "creepy" about the behavior I bolded? It's certainly not sexual harassment. Is it possible the guy worked in the building and just happened to be pulling into his work parking lot and was taking the elevator to his workplace at 8:24am and was making small talk with a pretty woman he saw on the elevator? Are we going to make it a crime to ask someone  you find attractive out?

Wow, that *is*I creepy. Sorry that happened to you, and glad nothing more did.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 05, 2018, 12:32:51 pm
ben Vereen (https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/broadway-big-ben-vereen-accused-of-sexual-assault-during-hair/ar-BBHTEii?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on January 10, 2018, 10:30:40 am
Michael Douglas

James Franco
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 11, 2018, 09:42:11 am
Michael Douglas

James Franco

My wife said, "I think he's gay anyway, but if James Franco hit on me, I'd be fine with it."
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 11, 2018, 09:54:00 am
Does your wife, have to be wearing a black dress, as she allows, and enjoys a man to sexually harass her?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 11, 2018, 12:49:52 pm
Post reporter Joel Achenbach suspended for 90 days for ‘inappropriate workplace conduct’ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/post-reporter-joel-achenbach-suspended-for-90-days-for-inappropriate-workplace-conduct/2018/01/10/5fae0f4a-f645-11e7-a9e3-ab18ce41436a_story.html?utm_term=.88afad48dfd4)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 11, 2018, 02:48:32 pm
Michael Douglas

James Franco

My wife said, "I think he's gay anyway, but if James Franco hit on me, I'd be fine with it."

i'm assuming that it takes more than hitting on someone to make the headlines, so the question becomes: would she be ok if franco stuck his hand down her pants, uninvited?  what if he told her that she needed to sleep with him to keep her job?  what if he did some other inappropriate act then threatened her if she ever told anyone?  inquiring minds want to know...
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 11, 2018, 03:43:18 pm
Michael Douglas

James Franco

My wife said, "I think he's gay anyway, but if James Franco hit on me, I'd be fine with it."

i'm assuming that it takes more than hitting on someone to make the headlines, so the question becomes: would she be ok if franco stuck his hand down her pants, uninvited?  what if he told her that she needed to sleep with him to keep her job?  what if he did some other inappropriate act then threatened her if she ever told anyone?  inquiring minds want to know...

I can't answer those questions but she did say she's "with Catherine Deneuve" and that women to some degree need to let "men be men as long as they're not doing any raping and if not James Franco, at least maybe my (sick as a dog for the past week) husband would hit on me."

Which I guess means if I don't get killed at the Cracker show tonight, I guess I should be a little flirty even if I feel like shit.

Sorry if that's TMI. Teleworking and barrel aged stout intermingling this afternoon.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: excontradiction on January 11, 2018, 05:29:26 pm
Just be careful of flying bottles, man.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 11, 2018, 10:55:12 pm
For some reason, every time I think of James, I think of him getting blow jobs. And, it disturbs me.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 15, 2018, 06:12:28 pm
Aziz Ansari
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 16, 2018, 01:05:29 am
Aziz Ansari

This one, is going to backfire big time, and kill the movement that is known as me too. It already, has.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on January 16, 2018, 10:14:27 am
As long as men are thinking with their dicks and not brains this will continue...maybe under changing names...the overreach is unfortunate but so was the underreach for the entirety of humankind

Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 16, 2018, 12:11:16 pm
For some reason, every time I think of James, I think of him getting blow jobs. And, it disturbs me.

But isn't giving even more fun than receiving?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: AnalogFossa on January 16, 2018, 12:20:30 pm
Seal
https://pitchfork.com/news/seal-under-investigation-for-forcible-kissing-and-groping-report/?mbid=homepage-more-latest-and-video
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 16, 2018, 12:21:21 pm
For some reason, every time I think of James, I think of him getting blow jobs. And, it disturbs me.

But isn't giving even more fun than receiving?

no, comment.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 16, 2018, 03:31:06 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTr4MXGXkAIj9yS.jpg)

h/t @PulpLibrarian
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on January 25, 2018, 10:26:19 am
David Cop-A-Feel:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/david-copperfield-accused-of-drugging-assaulting-17-year-old-model-in-1988-exclusive/ar-AAv8lMC?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on January 26, 2018, 07:09:45 pm
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/26/us/politics/hillary-clinton-chose-to-shield-a-top-adviser-accused-of-harassment-in-2008.html
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on January 28, 2018, 02:10:28 pm
Chachi (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/scott-baio-denies-he-molested-nicole-eggert-when-she-was-14/ar-BBIjSbQ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2018, 12:51:43 pm
Aziz Ansari

This one, is going to backfire big time, and kill the movement that is known as me too. It already, has.

I posted this, but I still don't understand what happened with this one. Can someone please explain what happened with Aziz Ansari to this rather dull married guy who was too timid to ever harass anybody?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on January 29, 2018, 01:15:04 pm
Can someone please explain what happened with Aziz Ansari to this rather dull married guy who was too timid to ever harass anybody?
You'd have to read her account to fully understand the nebulous and controversial nature of this allegation fully.

Her account has (1) Aziz stopping when she says stop, (2) Aziz offering and getting her transportation when she requested to leave, and (3) no mention of her ever saying she did not want to engage in oral sex. Her account also features her texting Aziz the next day and saying (paraphrase) "after thinking about it, I did not want to have oral sex and despite me not saying that and going along you should've intuited that from my body language" after which Aziz expressed shock and regret over this. Her account also spends an inordinate amount of time on Aziz pouring her a glass of red wine without first asking her if she'd prefer white wine.

For the record, I think Aziz Ansari is a totally talentless individual who is annoying and would work at a Burger King if he were Caucasian. I also think he is probably a sleezeball sexually.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2018, 01:24:15 pm
Can someone please explain what happened with Aziz Ansari to this rather dull married guy who was too timid to ever harass anybody?
You'd have to read her account to fully understand the nebulous and controversial nature of this allegation fully.

Her account has (1) Aziz stopping when she says stop, (2) Aziz offering and getting her transportation when she requested to leave, and (3) no mention of her ever saying she did not want to engage in oral sex. Her account also features her texting Aziz the next day and saying (paraphrase) "after thinking about it, I did not want to have oral sex and despite me not saying that and going along you should've intuited that from my body language" after which Aziz expressed shock and regret over this. Her account also spends an inordinate amount of time on Aziz pouring her a glass of red wine without first asking her if she'd prefer white wine.

For the record, I think Aziz Ansari is a totally talentless individual who is annoying and would work at a Burger King if he were Caucasian. I also think he is probably a sleezeball sexually.

Thanks,

I agree that he is pretty talentless. I disagree and say that he would be working in IT somewhere if he were Caucasian.  Though maybe he is not that smart. I have no idea how he is sexually though I would not want to have sex with him. Not that all Indian or Pakistani guys are unfunny or unsexy. I think Kal Penn is funny, Naveen Andrews is sexy, and the guy from the Big Sick is the perfect combination of both.

But anyway, enough of what I think. The one question that for me remains unanswered is who gave oral sex to who? Did he give it to her? Did she give it to him? Did they give it to each other? If he was the receiver, why didn't he offer to reciprocate? If that is the case, if I were a woman and a guy did that to me, I'd be pretty pissed too.

My o
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on January 29, 2018, 01:26:49 pm
The one question that for me remains unanswered is who gave oral sex to who? Did he give it to her? Did she give it to him? Did they give it to each other? If he was the receiver, why didn't he offer to reciprocate? If that is the case, if I were a woman and a guy did that to me, I'd be pretty pissed too.
He performed oral sex on her and then asked her to reciprocate which she did "but not for long" before she said she didn't want to and he said "cool, its only fun if its fun for both of us."

Then he did a lot of super-pervy, not romantic, horny 18 year old stuff like asking "where do you want me to fuck you" and making a V with his fingers and licking them until she asked to leave at which point he called her a car.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2018, 02:00:32 pm
The one question that for me remains unanswered is who gave oral sex to who? Did he give it to her? Did she give it to him? Did they give it to each other? If he was the receiver, why didn't he offer to reciprocate? If that is the case, if I were a woman and a guy did that to me, I'd be pretty pissed too.
He performed oral sex on her and then asked her to reciprocate which she did "but not for long" before she said she didn't want to and he said "cool, its only fun if its fun for both of us."

Then he did a lot of super-pervy, not romantic, horny 18 year old stuff like asking "where do you want me to fuck you" and making a V with his fingers and licking them until she asked to leave at which point he called her a car.

Did she have an orgasm from the oral sex that he gave her?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on January 29, 2018, 02:10:40 pm
Aziz Ansari

This one, is going to backfire big time, and kill the movement that is known as me too. It already, has.

I posted this, but I still don't understand what happened with this one. Can someone please explain what happened with Aziz Ansari to this rather dull married guy who was too timid to ever harass anybody?

Aziz Ansari is Guilty.  Of Not Being a Mind Reader (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/opinion/aziz-ansari-babe-sexual-harassment.html)

Best line in this NY Times Op-Ed:

"If you are hanging out naked with a man, it's safe to assume he is going to try to have sex with you"
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2018, 02:23:09 pm
Aziz Ansari

This one, is going to backfire big time, and kill the movement that is known as me too. It already, has.

I posted this, but I still don't understand what happened with this one. Can someone please explain what happened with Aziz Ansari to this rather dull married guy who was too timid to ever harass anybody?

Aziz Ansari is Guilty.  Of Not Being a Mind Reader (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/opinion/aziz-ansari-babe-sexual-harassment.html)

Best line in this NY Times Op-Ed:

"If you are hanging out naked with a man, it's safe to assume he is going to try to have sex with you"

Am I missing something or did that rather long Times article not mention that they had mutual oral sex?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on January 29, 2018, 02:28:33 pm
The one question that for me remains unanswered is who gave oral sex to who? Did he give it to her? Did she give it to him? Did they give it to each other? If he was the receiver, why didn't he offer to reciprocate? If that is the case, if I were a woman and a guy did that to me, I'd be pretty pissed too.
He performed oral sex on her and then asked her to reciprocate which she did "but not for long" before she said she didn't want to and he said "cool, its only fun if its fun for both of us."

Then he did a lot of super-pervy, not romantic, horny 18 year old stuff like asking "where do you want me to fuck you" and making a V with his fingers and licking them until she asked to leave at which point he called her a car.

Did she have an orgasm from the oral sex that he gave her?
You know, she did not make that real clear. I'll ask.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2018, 02:36:26 pm
The one question that for me remains unanswered is who gave oral sex to who? Did he give it to her? Did she give it to him? Did they give it to each other? If he was the receiver, why didn't he offer to reciprocate? If that is the case, if I were a woman and a guy did that to me, I'd be pretty pissed too.
He performed oral sex on her and then asked her to reciprocate which she did "but not for long" before she said she didn't want to and he said "cool, its only fun if its fun for both of us."

Then he did a lot of super-pervy, not romantic, horny 18 year old stuff like asking "where do you want me to fuck you" and making a V with his fingers and licking them until she asked to leave at which point he called her a car.

Did she have an orgasm from the oral sex that he gave her?
You know, she did not make that real clear. I'll ask.

I mean, if she consented to receiving oral, and was into it to the point of getting an orgasm, and he didn't force her to do anything else, what is she complaining about? How old is this woman?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2018, 02:47:21 pm
I just went back and read the original article.

https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355

He's a douche.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on January 29, 2018, 02:47:27 pm
I mean, if she consented to receiving oral, and was into it to the point of getting an orgasm, and he didn't force her to do anything else, what is she complaining about?
She is complaining about his extremely boorish behavior including getting a mirror out of the bedroom and positioning it so she could see him pantomine rear-entry sex while asking "where do you want me to fuck you" and kissing her "aggressively."

How old is this woman?
23 or 24.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on January 29, 2018, 02:48:30 pm
He's a douche.
Agreed. The kerfuffle seems to be many people think his behavior rises to the level of rape/sexual assault and others think its just terrible, boorish, douchey (non-criminal) sex.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2018, 02:59:12 pm
He's a douche.
Agreed. The kerfuffle seems to be many people think his behavior rises to the level of rape/sexual assault and others think its just terrible, boorish, douchey (non-criminal) sex.

For such an ugly guy, he sure is a cocky, confident SOB. Not that such boorish behavior is acceptable from handsome dudes either.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 29, 2018, 08:43:02 pm
He's a douche.
Agreed. The kerfuffle seems to be many people think his behavior rises to the level of rape/sexual assault and others think its just terrible, boorish, douchey (non-criminal) sex.

based on my understanding of the kerfuffle, you seem to have missed the point. to be fair, the point here is that women and men view things very differently, in large part due to cultural norms and expectations (aka upbringing).  so men saying "i don't get what these women are complaining about" is almost to be expected, since they're men and not women.

the #metoo movement pointed out how women, even powerful hollywood leading women, can be subjected to sexual harassment and assault; and society has covered for these men.

a step below this, but still on the spectrum of inequality of the sexes, is how women are treated in new sexual relationships - again, due to cultural norms and expectations (aka upbringing).  the message in the ansari case isn't that he committed a crime.  he didn't.  the message is that women don't have the same leeway in skipping out of an awkward sexual situation (for men to simple-mindedly say "well why didn't she leave?" is showing your privilege and lack of empathy).  hell, even what constitutes "bad sex" isn't nearly the same (http://theweek.com/articles/749978/female-price-male-pleasure) for men and women.  here's another good read (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aziz-ansari-sex-violating-but-not-criminal_us_5a5e445de4b0106b7f65b346?z) on the subject.  please read through those two links for a better explanation.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on January 29, 2018, 10:21:04 pm
I generally like Andrew Sullivan, but how is he in any position to comment on male/female sexual relations?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on January 30, 2018, 09:26:42 am
  the message in the ansari case isn't that he committed a crime.  he didn't. 
The message in the initial expose is very much that he committed a crime.

the message is that women don't have the same leeway in skipping out of an awkward sexual situation (for men to simple-mindedly say "well why didn't she leave?" is showing your privilege and lack of empathy). 
Agreed. But this specific woman in her specific accounting of events had absolute leeway to skip out of this awkward sexual situation. She is not without agency.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on February 06, 2018, 03:29:11 pm
Tarantino says Polanski is innocent.  Drugged 13-year old girl was, "down with it." (https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/quentin-tarantino’s-2003-defense-of-roman-polanski-rediscovered/ar-BBIKKgo?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 06, 2018, 03:52:58 pm
13-year old girl was, "down with it." (https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrity/quentin-tarantino’s-2003-defense-of-roman-polanski-rediscovered/ar-BBIKKgo?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp)
But was she "hip"?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on February 06, 2018, 04:15:42 pm
It became apparent a long time ago that Tarantino is an idiot who got lucky....put it this way: he is no woody allen
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on February 14, 2018, 10:27:06 am
The Flying Tomato (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/02/14/after-winning-gold-medal-shaun-white-dodges-questions-about-2016-sexual-harassment-suit/?utm_term=.25a1bd57f6d4)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on March 19, 2018, 03:44:30 pm
Mike Isabella

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/celebrity-chef-mike-isabella-is-sued-for-extraordinary-sexual-harassment/2018/03/19/4cc47bf4-27a4-11e8-b79d-f3d931db7f68_story.html
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on March 19, 2018, 04:34:27 pm
Steven Seagall.

Hey Julian, was he on your list? Seems like he should have been.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on March 19, 2018, 04:38:11 pm
Steven Seagall.

Hey Julian, was he on your list? Seems like he should have been.
No, but I had Steven the Sea Gull the mascot of the local Captain D's knockoff from my hometown when I was a young boy. . .
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on March 20, 2018, 09:34:35 am
Mike Isabella

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/celebrity-chef-mike-isabella-is-sued-for-extraordinary-sexual-harassment/2018/03/19/4cc47bf4-27a4-11e8-b79d-f3d931db7f68_story.html

Surprise, that guy is a fat f'n tool.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on March 20, 2018, 09:37:49 am
Upcoming predictions unless this 15 minutes of news cycle has already moved on from sexual harassment.

Ryan Seacrest
Simon Cowell
Randy Jackson
Jeff Probst

One down.

http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/ryan-seacrest-sexual-abuse-allegations-stylist-details-1202710460/
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on March 21, 2018, 11:13:26 pm
Fred Savage
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2018, 08:19:22 am
^ winnie has been holding on to that secret for a long time
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 22, 2018, 11:53:50 am
Mork from Ork
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 08, 2018, 01:36:41 pm
Read Molly Ringwald's essay  (https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/what-about-the-breakfast-club-molly-ringwald-metoo-john-hughes-pretty-in-pink)about her work with John Hughes. Sharp as a tack.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on May 18, 2018, 11:20:29 am
https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/05/boyd-tinsley-misconduct-allegations/
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on August 20, 2018, 04:00:13 pm
Asia Argento (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/19/us/asia-argento-assault-jimmy-bennett.html)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 20, 2018, 07:12:53 pm
Asia Argento (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/19/us/asia-argento-assault-jimmy-bennett.html)

I wonder if Bourdain would still be alive if he had never met that woman.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2018, 08:40:35 pm
I try not to use the term “that woman”...I find so many sexist people do

Like think about how many people referred and refer to Hillary as “that woman” and compare it to how many people refer to any male politician as “that man”....no, it’s always “that woman”
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 20, 2018, 10:15:49 pm
I try not to use the term “that woman”...I find so many sexist people do

Like think about how many people referred and refer to Hillary as “that woman” and compare it to how many people refer to any male politician as “that man”....no, it’s always “that woman”

Thanks for the lecture, Hoss.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on August 20, 2018, 10:24:07 pm
Not a lecture but take it the way you want....
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on August 21, 2018, 12:17:17 am
Asia Argento (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/19/us/asia-argento-assault-jimmy-bennett.html)

I wonder if Bourdain would still be alive if he had never met that woman.


you, post to poke some invisible bear, to the universe.  I . . . love that.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 12, 2018, 01:08:31 pm
been a wild year...I'm not outing anyone in this...but the start of #metoo appeared in a tweet by Ms Teen Steam on 10/15/18

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-me-too-anniversary-call-out-20181012-story.html

this is interesting
https://www.vox.com/a/sexual-harassment-assault-allegations-list
 252 celebrities, politicians, CEOs, and others who have been accused of sexual misconduct since April 2017
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 16, 2018, 01:10:55 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DppP0B7W4AAYJZS.jpg:large)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2018, 08:54:33 am
Been a while since any major allegations

I'm convinced this is connected to the GOPs war on science
 Fox, Cosmos producers both say they're investigating sexual misconduct allegations against Neil deGrasse Tyson.
https://news.avclub.com/fox-cosmos-producers-both-say-theyre-investigating-sex-1830787624


I was a little skeptical when the source was the onion, but the story is being carried by others

Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 12, 2018, 07:07:07 pm
x-mas songs in the #metoo era (https://youtu.be/CJB9GP5gyAw)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on December 12, 2018, 07:58:22 pm
x-mas songs in the #metoo era (https://youtu.be/CJB9GP5gyAw)

This Woman Explains The Lyrics Of “Baby It’s Cold Outside” And It’s Not What You Think (https://www.fempositive.com/this-woman-explains-the-lyrics-of-baby-its-cold-outside-and-its-not-what-you-think/)

also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGWsNPfZWx4 (really funny)

bonus: William Shatner battles with fans over defense of 'Baby It's Cold Outside' (https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/william-shatner-battles-with-fans-over-defense-of-baby-its-cold-outside)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 17, 2018, 10:29:52 am
Lots of good. Just also one crappy thing.

Ah yes, the Harvey Weinstein defense team will be using this for sure, you know, because it worked so well for Bill Cosby.

Man...looking like this is getting thrown out
Weinstein Seeks Dismissal Of Sexual Assault Case In Possible #MeToo Setback (https://www.npr.org/2018/12/17/676803400/weinstein-seeks-dismissal-of-sexual-assault-case-in-possible-metoo-setback)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 02, 2019, 06:18:28 pm
I thought this was a creative headline:
Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, and the No Apology Tour

and in good new...the Weinstein moves forward and the case will now proceed to a pre-trial hearing, March 7. (https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/12/harvey-weinstein-trial-me-too-sexual-misconduct-rape)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 02, 2019, 06:35:09 pm
I thought this was a creative headline:
Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, and the No Apology Tour
 
linked: Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, and the No Apology Tour (https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/12/louis-ck-kevin-spacey-trump-no-apology/)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 02, 2019, 06:44:44 pm
I thought this was a creative headline:
Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, and the No Apology Tour
 
linked: Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, and the No Apology Tour (https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/12/louis-ck-kevin-spacey-trump-no-apology/)
totally unrelated but a hysterical timely homonym of sorts....(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51X-gSQs0%2BL.jpg)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 02, 2019, 03:24:50 pm
I thought this was a creative headline:
Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, and the No Apology Tour
 
linked: Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, and the No Apology Tour (https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/12/louis-ck-kevin-spacey-trump-no-apology/)

Brutal watch:

https://youtu.be/TERPmtOw1e0

Backstory (https://news.avclub.com/well-this-is-brutal-father-of-a-murdered-child-has-hi-1832278043?utm_source=jalopnik_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019-02-02)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on February 04, 2019, 05:46:43 pm
Justin Fairfax
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on February 04, 2019, 05:59:10 pm
Oh boy...

Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: ggw on February 05, 2019, 09:28:15 pm
Óscar Arias Sánchez
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 13, 2019, 06:10:05 pm
Groper?  Not clear.

Sexual harassment?  Probably....

Ryan Adams (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/arts/music/ryan-adams-women-sex.html?)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on February 13, 2019, 06:24:01 pm
Groper?  Not clear.

Sexual harassment?  Probably....

Ryan Adams (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/arts/music/ryan-adams-women-sex.html?)


Wow... I'm not surprised.  I've grown to loathe that dude over the years, but maybe he should finally just off himself, too harsh?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on February 13, 2019, 06:31:10 pm
The guy has serious issues


have never understood why so many of my friends are into his music...,he has but a handful of songs I like


I guess he pulled that on Jenny Lewis and even Liz  Phair!
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on February 13, 2019, 06:34:40 pm
The guy has serious issues


have never understood why so many of my friends are into his music...,he has but a handful of songs I like


I guess he pulled that on Jenny Lewis and even Liz  Phair!

I'd say Mandy Moore takes the cake.

Did it to Natalie Prass as well. Dude is a fuckin psycho basket case.

I'm sure he'll have another online melt down due to this.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 13, 2019, 07:05:38 pm
Here I am at 34000 ft and I hear this news
Haven't even read the story, but based on the commentary, not good

His whole stichk was to be an asshole from day one.
But This is the first time I had heard any of this
I think he always had a quantity over quality problem
But he has some sweet tracks in the midst of that pile

Am I supposed to publicly shame him now
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 13, 2019, 07:09:06 pm
I can only imagine the hilarious voicemail he’s going to leave on that reporter’s phone.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on February 13, 2019, 07:14:52 pm
Absolutely not Sidehatch...


Are you heading to Hawaii?



Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 13, 2019, 08:35:03 pm
Damnit, you guys always beat me to the scoop.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: K8teebug on February 14, 2019, 09:16:45 am
He always seemed like a total asshole. This is not surprising news.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on February 14, 2019, 10:53:07 pm
It's safe to say his career is over. 
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 15, 2019, 02:45:45 am
dig (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dig_(command))
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 15, 2019, 08:16:27 am
It's safe to say his career is over.
He may be going jail over ava
He's toast
Sounded like f'n Weinstein with the ' come on by my hotel room' and he was already naked


And now the corporate sponsors start to run for the doors
"Benson, an amplifier company, has also discontinued its relationship with Adams"
"
JHS Pedals, a guitar pedal company, has also cut ties with Adams. The company released “the VCR,” a pedal in collaboration with Adams and his label Pax-Am.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 15, 2019, 01:40:53 pm
dig (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dig_(command))

Who did they touch?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on February 15, 2019, 03:21:32 pm
My two mildly interesting tangential stories...

When I was living in NC in my late 20's, a female friend set me up on a blind date with her sister's roommate. I think maybe the connection was that we were both into alt-country. And maybe she thought we were a match physically. Anyway, at some point we made it to her place, and she asked me if I had ever her of Whiskeytown, her ex-boyfriend was the lead singer. I said no, and she played part of Faithless Street for me. Anyway, we didn't hit it off (playing your ex-boyfriend's band's album for your date is probably a sign), we both saw each other out once more but then both moved out of state and never saw each other again (I heard she married and had a couple of kids and is actually friends with another musician that I'm as long time fan of.) Anyway, first time I heard Ryan Adams.

The other story took place when I was in my early 20's. I briefly dated an aspiring musician who told me the tale of when she was 14, she met a rocker who was quite famous at the time and ended up having what seems like a Ryan-Ava type relationship (she even had pictures of them together so totally believable.) Anyway, I guess the moral of the store is Ryan is not the first creeper in the rock world.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: excontradiction on February 15, 2019, 05:41:30 pm
No doy
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 15, 2019, 07:34:58 pm
Groper?  Not clear.

Sexual harassment?  Probably....

Ryan Adams (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/arts/music/ryan-adams-women-sex.html?)


PSA: Bryan Adams is not Ryan Adams (https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/entertainment/bryan-adams-ryan-adams/index.html)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on February 15, 2019, 07:35:55 pm
dig (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dig_(command))

Who did they touch?

mostly Apache, but its 24 years old and frankly is asking for it, constantly.  leaving your ports open like that...
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 16, 2019, 01:02:12 pm
PSA: Bryan Adams is not Ryan Adams (https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/entertainment/bryan-adams-ryan-adams/index.html)

Stupid self centered Canadians.  There is definitely a summer of 69 joke in here but I'm not going to make it....
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on February 16, 2019, 01:19:39 pm
PSA: Bryan Adams is not Ryan Adams (https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/15/entertainment/bryan-adams-ryan-adams/index.html)

Stupid self centered Canadians.  There is definitely a summer of 69 joke in here but I'm not going to make it....
To be fair, Bryan Adams is superior to Ryan Adams in every way.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on March 04, 2019, 09:18:56 am
Ryan Adams finally cancels UK tour

I don’t know if his career will withstand this scandal
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Yada on March 05, 2019, 03:01:16 pm
Ryan Adams finally cancels UK tour

I don’t know if his career will withstand this scandal

I predict death within a year, if not, career definitely over.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 05, 2019, 03:16:54 pm
I think he is going to rename some of the song titles


Fuck The Rain -> Fuck The News
Lucky Now -> Lucky Then
Call me on your way back home -> Call my lawyer if you want a statement
When The Stars Go Blue -> When the stars cry #metoo
Do You Still Love Me? -> Do You Still Love Me?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on March 05, 2019, 05:47:32 pm
I think he will eventually try to make a comeback...,I mean I don’t see him having any other career option and he can’t live off of royalties....or streaming revenues

I just never found his music any good....I don’t understand what people like about him...terrible live...and all over the map musically...he is in my mind a fake...one year doing the Smiths...the next Grateful Dead...etc.... but there must be something as many of my friends with otherwise unimpeachable taste love him
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 05, 2019, 06:02:29 pm
quantity was always a problem with him
and I agree close to 75% of the times I saw him live sucked
but those other shows were awesome

he is a whiny ass bitch and that grew tiresome

His early output with Whiskeytown and Heartbreaker IMO are fantastic
I think Gold has some pretty standout moments too
but after that...never really peaked again
I did like cold roses and that tour tho

not that this is indicator of talent or good product
but I'm a little surprised he got nominated for two grammys in 2015
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: AnalogFossa on April 02, 2019, 01:09:09 pm
Biden
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/second-woman-says-ex-vp-biden-touched-her-inappropriately-idUSKCN1RD3CT (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/second-woman-says-ex-vp-biden-touched-her-inappropriately-idUSKCN1RD3CT)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 02, 2019, 01:18:43 pm
Biden
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/second-woman-says-ex-vp-biden-touched-her-inappropriately-idUSKCN1RD3CT (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/second-woman-says-ex-vp-biden-touched-her-inappropriately-idUSKCN1RD3CT)
I’m not team Biden — Julian For The Future For Life — but neither this, nor the first allegation really constitutes groping in the way anyone uses that term. Rubbing noses and kissing someone on the back of the head, while weird and patriarchal and inappropriate, needs to be delineated from . . . well, virtually every other entry in this thread.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: AnalogFossa on April 02, 2019, 01:20:51 pm
Biden
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/second-woman-says-ex-vp-biden-touched-her-inappropriately-idUSKCN1RD3CT (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/second-woman-says-ex-vp-biden-touched-her-inappropriately-idUSKCN1RD3CT)
I’m not team Biden — Julian For The Future For Life — but neither this, nor the first allegation really constitutes groping in the way anyone uses that term. Rubbing noses and kissing someone on the back of the head, while weird and patriarchal and inappropriate, needs to be delineated from . . . well, virtually every other entry in this thread.
“It wasn’t sexual, but he did grab me by the head,” Amy Lappos, 43, told the Hartford Courant on Monday of her encounter with Biden at a Greenwich, Connecticut, event. “He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth.”

What are we constituting as "groping" these days?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 02, 2019, 01:28:20 pm
What are we constituting as "groping" these days?
Something that specifically doesn't start with the accuser/victim feeling the need to state for the record as the first thing out of their mouth, "it wasn't sexual," but that's just me.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 01:30:26 pm
Is she saying it ultimately wasn't sexual, but only after he didn't kiss her on the mouth?  Or that even if she thought the kiss was coming, it wasn't sexual? 

What are we constituting as "groping" these days?
Something that specifically doesn't start with "it wasn't sexual," but that's just me.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 02, 2019, 01:31:49 pm
Is she saying it ultimately wasn't sexual, but only after he didn't kiss her on the mouth?  Or that even if she thought the kiss was coming, it wasn't sexual? 
I could only guess.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2019, 01:32:08 pm
I hate to agree with julian on anything other than Ratbastard...well is a ratbastard
and
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needs to be delineated from . . . well, virtually every other entry in this thread.

I'm not sure how the Left is going to deal with this problem of throwing the baby out with the bathwater
but we need to be able to draw a line between weinstein and biden...it's insanity to think they are almost the same thing

look at what else this woman said
“If Biden truly supports women and gender equality he would step aside and support one of the many talented and qualified women running,” she added. “The same goes for the other men who have thrown their hat in the ring. Women are 52 percent of the population. We are not a minority, we are the majority. It is time we are represented as such. After 45 male presidents it is time we elect a woman.”


So she says it's not sexual ...but really just wants to take out the white men

little disingenious

I also think this narative is being pushed hard by operatives on the Right and the media is just eating it up
how are we going to stop eating our own on the way to 2020

Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2019, 01:33:33 pm
What are we constituting as "groping" these days?
I'm curious on YOUR opinion on this...you posted here like it was a legitimate accusation of groping...fanning the flames
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 02, 2019, 01:34:52 pm
“If Biden truly supports women and gender equality he would step aside and support one of the many talented and qualified women running,” she added. “The same goes for the other men who have thrown their hat in the ring. Women are 52 percent of the population. We are not a minority, we are the majority. It is time we are represented as such. After 45 male presidents it is time we elect a woman.”
To be fair, I agree with absolutely all of that with the exception of the premise that any man who runs for the Presidency isn't a TRUE SUPPORTER of gender equality. That's cuckoo bananas.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 02, 2019, 01:47:36 pm
I mean, is William London from Doubt a groper?


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EXT. THE PRINCIPAL’S OFFICE - MORNING


Sister Aloysius is looking through the window, down on the student populace. Her eyes narrow.


BACK TO SISTER JAMES


William takes a step towards her.


WILLIAM Sister, are we having the test today?


SISTER JAMES Tomorrow, William.


WILLIAM Is it long division?


SISTER JAMES Among other things.


Sister James turns away to greet another nun and William grabs her arm to ask her another question.


SISTER JAMES Good morning, Sister.


William touches her sleeve.


WILLIAM How much of it will be long division?


SISTER ALOYSIUS (O.S.) Boy!


THE WHOLE SCHOOL STOPS AND LOOKS UP


Sister Aloysius looks down on the courtyard from the balcony outside her office.


SISTER ALOYSIUS William London. Come up here! Come smartly now.


Pale and alone, William walks up the stairs.


SISTER ALOYSIUS Don’t make me wait.


FATHER FLYNN AND SISTER JAMES WATCH FROM BELOW As two of the girls confer.


ALICE (O.S.) What did he do?


SARAH (O.S.) He touched Sister James.


Flynn confides to Sister James.


FLYNN The dragon is hungry!


Sister James blushes with pleasure at the attention, stifles a giggle. The noise resumes.


SARAH (O.S.) You don’t touch a nun.


There has to be some difference between inappropriately touching someone for sexual reasons and incidental (for lack of a better word) inappropriate touching of someone. If I pat Sidehatch on the shoulder out of friendship without getting his consent first, should I be disqualified from holding public office? There is a giant chasm between incidental, non-sexual contact -- which can still be quite inappropriate and "problematic," for sure -- and the actual criminal sexual assaults that make up this thread.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2019, 02:06:20 pm
Democrats going to sink Biden....great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!


Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 02:13:58 pm
This is the weirdest mindset to me.  It's a primary...shouldn't we weed out the bad stuff now?  I mean, every knew Biden was a creep...shouldn't we deal with that kind of shit now rather than sweeping it under a rug for later? Make these folks answer for bad votes and explain why they did it, and if they've changed since then, make them show the work.

Also, LOL at Biden stans.

Democrats going to sink Biden....great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2019, 02:19:57 pm
Democrats going to sink Biden....great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!

I'm not sure how Republicans could make this an issue given who their candidate is.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 02, 2019, 02:21:36 pm
I mean, every knew Biden was a creep...
Wait, we did?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 02:23:16 pm
I think they probably will. I mean, even Steve "David Duke without the Baggage" Scalise jumped on the Omar dogpile. These fucking scumbags are shameless. 

But I agree it won't do damage...not a single person that would be offended by Biden's groping would suddenly think to back an actual accused rapist. 

Democrats going to sink Biden....great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!

I'm not sure how Republicans could make this an issue given who their candidate is.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2019, 02:24:22 pm
Democrats going to sink Biden....great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!

I'm not sure how Republicans could make this an issue given who their candidate is.

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from: nkotb on Today at 14:13:58

    I mean, every knew Biden was a creep...
This is the problem...and we are falling into the Right's game here...they don't hold their accountable, but they know if they stoke the fire...the libs will turn it into an inferno

I do think we should weed people out for sure...that is what the primary is for
but this is not an issue that he should drop out for

everyone knew he was famous for gaffs....creep ...come on man.
worst offense is he's a huger ...how is that offensive really
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 02:26:17 pm
Wasn't that part of his meme persona? Just being a creepy old guy that was overly handsy with women?  The Onion even had some articles on the topic.

I mean, every knew Biden was a creep...
Wait, we did?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2019, 02:36:43 pm
And Hillary was a liar


Look what we got


Democrats refuse to grow up and learn


I don’t think this would affect Biden in general but it kind of dooms him in primaries if he even decided to run at this point


Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER on April 02, 2019, 02:38:15 pm
Wasn't that part of his meme persona? Just being a creepy old guy that was overly handsy with women?
I guess I never picked up on the handsy part and thought it was moreso your crazy uncle who still wants to do kegstands at 65.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 02:41:10 pm
I agree with "Democrats refuse to grow up and learn" part.

And Hillary was a liar


Look what we got


Democrats refuse to grow up and learn


I don’t think this would affect Biden in general but it kind of dooms him in primaries if he even decided to run at this point
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2019, 02:41:40 pm
If Kamala Harris was the handsy type, would we even be having this discussion?

Oh wait, she did sleep her way to the top.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 02:45:10 pm
Yeah, I think it was an outreach of that:

https://politics.theonion.com/biden-co-presents-best-new-starlet-award-with-shyla-sty-1819577396
https://politics.theonion.com/biden-urges-paul-ryan-to-check-out-nude-scene-from-por-1819578536
https://politics.theonion.com/panicked-biden-interrupts-state-of-the-union-to-ask-if-1819574541

I don't think he's not a sex creep in the way Trump obviously is; probably just a guy that has outdated ideas on what's acceptable.  I think his response has been pretty shitty (like, just say sorry! it's ok!) for sure.  But I don't have a lot of stake in Biden from a policy standpoint, so I kind of don't give a shit either way. 

That said, if I found out that someone his age did that to my wife and it made her uncomfortable in the way described, I'd be pretty fucking pissed.

Wasn't that part of his meme persona? Just being a creepy old guy that was overly handsy with women?
I guess I never picked up on the handsy part and thought it was moreso your crazy uncle who still wants to do kegstands at 65.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2019, 02:50:43 pm
Every poll we have seen - and common sense- tells us Biden is the one Democrat with clearly the best chance to unseat Trump

But let’s tear him down with Onion memes before he even starts running...let’s make it a real big deal...like the Hillary emails

I would not be surprised if this was a political hit job..frankly

Anyways we are pretty much toast next year Biden or not....



Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 02, 2019, 02:57:45 pm
this means only . . . one, thing

BLOOMBERG

BLOOMBERG

BLOOMBERG
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 03:00:11 pm
LOL those articles are from 2013, 15 and 16. Should we yell at the Onion?

Every poll we have seen - and common sense- tells us Biden is the one Democrat with clearly the best chance to unseat Trump

But let’s tear him down with Onion memes before he even starts running...let’s make it a real big deal...like the Hillary emails

I would not be surprised if this was a political hit job..frankly

Anyways we are pretty much toast next year Biden or not....
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Relaxer on April 02, 2019, 03:04:50 pm
Every poll we have seen - and common sense- tells us Biden is the one Democrat with clearly the best chance to unseat Trump

But let’s tear him down with Onion memes before he even starts running...let’s make it a real big deal...like the Hillary emails

I would not be surprised if this was a political hit job..frankly

Anyways we are pretty much toast next year Biden or not....

I don't know man, it sounds like you're blaming the wrong people here.
Biden has a very long history of touching women inappropriately. Has he bragged about sexual assault or rape like Trump? No. But he uses his power and position to gratify himself by constantly getting handsy with women. Yes, there's a meme out now of him giving a big hug to another man, as if this exonerates him. But he's not nuzzling and kissing a man's neck. He's not pulling men and rubbing noses with them. The guy is a fucking creep and I don't want him representing the Democratic party even if he could maybe beat Trump. And let's not forget, dude's record of presidential campaigns is dismal. He is not the future of the party, and he shouldn't be. He needs to go away.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2019, 03:18:47 pm
LOL those articles are from 2013, 15 and 16. Should we yell at the Onion?

Every poll we have seen - and common sense- tells us Biden is the one Democrat with clearly the best chance to unseat Trump

But let’s tear him down with Onion memes before he even starts running...let’s make it a real big deal...like the Hillary emails

I would not be surprised if this was a political hit job..frankly

Anyways we are pretty much toast next year Biden or not....

No we should yell at YOU

Biden was the best chance of beating Trump....a few women saying he is touchy feely coordinated to come out the week or two before he was to announce is just not credible

But I don’t see him winning the primaries...just don’t spend the next four year term blaming Trump: look yourselves in the mirror

It’s funny when Hillary was running all I heard from other democrats and young people was negative shit about Hillary...I canvassed for her...doubt any of these did...but now they are up in arms about everything Trump does...these same people were convinced Trump would quit, be impeached or whatever...

Sometimes in politics you have to be practical and realistic..

Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 03:21:33 pm
For sure, man!

LOL those articles are from 2013, 15 and 16. Should we yell at the Onion?

Every poll we have seen - and common sense- tells us Biden is the one Democrat with clearly the best chance to unseat Trump

But let’s tear him down with Onion memes before he even starts running...let’s make it a real big deal...like the Hillary emails

I would not be surprised if this was a political hit job..frankly

Anyways we are pretty much toast next year Biden or not....

No we should yell at YOU

Biden was the best chance of beating Trump....a few women saying he is touchy feely coordinated to come out the week or two before he was to announce is just not credible

But I don’t see him winning the primaries...just don’t spend the next four year term blaming Trump: look yourselves in the mirror

It’s funny when Hillary was running all I heard from other democrats and young people was negative shit about Hillary...I canvassed for her...doubt any of these did...but now they are up in arms about everything Trump does...these same people were convinced Trump would quit, be impeached or whatever...

Sometimes in politics you have to be practical and realistic..
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2019, 03:21:56 pm
I would not be surprised if this was a political hit job..frankly
IMO...it is
and the libs are the ones bringing the pitchforks
and team trump is laughing all the way to 2020 inauguration
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2019, 03:23:54 pm
And let's not forget, dude's record of presidential campaigns is dismal. He is not the future of the party, and he shouldn't be.
This I do agree on...but not based on his creepyness, just that we need NEW...plain and simple
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 03:25:52 pm
(https://frinkiac.com/video/S05E20/GwClmupVBaufFDHLxS4XkQngLAQ=.gif)
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2019, 03:27:56 pm
For sure man! Biden is the only one they fear... he would have a great chance of taking PA, WI and MI...and that is what we need...we ain’t winning OH or FL even if we put up Jesus

I love Mayor Pete and Beto....Warren has a ton of serious policy proposals... Sanders would try to do things I love

But they have less than zero chance to beat Trump


Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: hutch on April 02, 2019, 03:28:43 pm
Someone once said people get the government they deserve
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 04:10:42 pm
If I can ask...what do you "love" about Buttigieg and Beto?  Like, what specific policies or stances do those guys have that you love?  My gut is that people generally just like how those guys make them feel inside, but maybe I'm wrong? I don't really know about Buttigieg Boys or Beto Brahs to ask, but that's the vibe i get from Facebook.

It just seems weird to me to put Warren ("a ton of serious policy proposals") and Sanders ("would try to do things I love") in the same sentence if that's the case. Maybe it's not and those guys have really good policies that people love that I don't know about. I'm dumb!

I love Mayor Pete and Beto....Warren has a ton of serious policy proposals... Sanders would try to do things I love
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2019, 04:19:30 pm
guys...there is a thread for this 2020
this is where we talk about #metoo related allegations and exasperations
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 02, 2019, 04:20:58 pm
Narc

guys...there is a thread for this 2020
this is where we talk about #metoo related allegations and exasperations
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2019, 04:21:42 pm
Nerf Hearder
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 02, 2019, 04:23:17 pm
If I can ask...what do you "love" about Buttigieg and Beto?  Like, what specific policies or stances do those guys have that you love?  My gut is that people generally just like how those guys make them feel inside, but maybe I'm wrong? I don't really know about Buttigieg Boys or Beto Brahs to ask, but that's the vibe i get from Facebook.

It just seems weird to me to put Warren ("a ton of serious policy proposals") and Sanders ("would try to do things I love") in the same sentence if that's the case. Maybe it's not and those guys have really good policies that people love that I don't know about. I'm dumb!

I love Mayor Pete and Beto....Warren has a ton of serious policy proposals... Sanders would try to do things I love

Beto was in a punk band and Buttplug is gay and what card carrying liberal doesn't love the gays?
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: Do-over hätch ılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2019, 04:31:52 pm
Buttplug is gay and what card carrying liberal doesn't love the gays?
Had to go there...I guess appropriate for the groper thread

Mayor Pete was on Real Time and was great
and Bill didn't even bring up his Husband...even a year ago I don't think that would have happened

37 seems a tad bit young to me, but IMO we'll be hearing a lot more from him for the next 30 years
very sharp and well spoken and a glint in his eyes that makes liberals wet
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 02, 2019, 05:41:26 pm
If I can ask...what do you "love" about Buttigieg and Beto?  Like, what specific policies or stances do those guys have that you love?  My gut is that people generally just like how those guys make them feel inside, but maybe I'm wrong? I don't really know about Buttigieg Boys or Beto Brahs to ask, but that's the vibe i get from Facebook.

It just seems weird to me to put Warren ("a ton of serious policy proposals") and Sanders ("would try to do things I love") in the same sentence if that's the case. Maybe it's not and those guys have really good policies that people love that I don't know about. I'm dumb!

you still think policy positions win presidential elections?  how quaint.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 03, 2019, 12:03:14 am
Butt, is not from the coast states, or texas.  He comes from an area where the median income is basically lower middle class people, who need someone in dc to finally listen to them.  He, was in the military.  That right there, will be his shield against so much b.s slinging.  He's a minority . . . who is white.  He's not grandpa. 

But, his biggest weakness will be women who want to see a woman in the White House. Women who are tired of voting for men, no matter who they are or what they represent.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: nkotb on April 04, 2019, 03:22:39 pm
Life finds a way...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1113862077842640898

Democrats going to sink Biden....great

He breathed on a woman’s neck!!!!

I'm not sure how Republicans could make this an issue given who their candidate is.
Title: Re: The Groper Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 04, 2019, 04:03:17 pm
^ from the above tweet thread:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D3VXa3UW0AcuMpW.jpg)