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Re: NHL Playoffs Thread...
« Reply #90 on: April 23, 2008, 02:27:00 pm »
ROUND ONE
 
 4-0 in the West.
 3-1 in the East.
 
 ROUND TWO
 
 Sharks in 6.
 Red Wings in 6.
 
 Rangers in 7.  <-- My upset of the playoffs
 Flyers in 7.
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« Reply #91 on: April 23, 2008, 05:07:00 pm »
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  And a quick shout out to xneverwherex for going 8-0 in round one.
 
 ROUND ONE
 
 2-2 in the West.
 4-0 in the East.
 
 ROUND TWO
 
 Sharks in 6.
 Red Wings in 5.
 
 Pens in 6.
 Flyers in 7.
sweet! thanks for the notice. Hell I didnt even realize I called them all. Now onto round 2.
 
 And for Round 2.
 Montreal in 7
 RANGERS in 5 - im predicting lundquist will be unbeatable. but mostly as im in nyc - there is no way in hell im rooting against them! bring back the cup baby! time to send the pens packing!
 
 Detroit in 6
 Dallas in 7
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« Reply #92 on: April 23, 2008, 10:14:00 pm »
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  i think the Philly/Montreal series is VERY interesting.  the top 2 power play teams in the country.
When did Montreal become part of the US?
 
 Habs in 7
 Rangers in 6
 
 Dallas in 7
 Detroit in 6

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Re: NHL Playoffs Thread...
« Reply #94 on: April 30, 2008, 08:41:00 am »
when would be a good time to revisit these tired old topics?:
 
 The pens trade deadline deals
 
 The pens lack of defense & goaltending
 
 Who really deserves the Hart
 
 
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« Reply #95 on: April 30, 2008, 08:45:00 am »
- after/if the pens raise the cup
 - uh...soon?
 - its still ovie
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« Reply #96 on: April 30, 2008, 08:47:00 am »
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
 
 The pens trade deadline deals
 
 The pens lack of defense & goaltending
 
 Who really deserves the Hart
Beating a 5 and 7 seed doesn't change anything. Ovechkin is still the MVP. The trade was still absurd. The Pens still can't win the cup, and Marc Andre Fleury and the lack of defense will be the reason.
 
 Do you live a bubble? Detroit or Dallas would shred the Pens if they can make it to the finals.

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« Reply #97 on: April 30, 2008, 08:52:00 am »
I still dont know that the pens (or anyone else) can beat the Wings.  But i do get ooodles of cash if Pittsburgh wins the east due to a risky futures bet on them in November, when it was 15:1.

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« Reply #98 on: April 30, 2008, 08:55:00 am »
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  - after/if the pens raise the cup
 - uh...soon?
 - its still ovie
-  :D  Lunacy: Hossa has been every bit as good as advertised. And Gill has been a dominate addition. The benefits are obvious now.
 
 - goals against
 - post season leaders
 
 -it's a sham if Alex wins it. Malkin - the 2nd best player on the Pens - carried the team to the top of the Division while Crosby was out. AND he's still doing it in the playoffs. While Alex is still wondering why he didn't shoot the puck...

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Re: NHL Playoffs Thread...
« Reply #99 on: April 30, 2008, 09:02:00 am »
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
 
 The pens trade deadline deals
 
 The pens lack of defense & goaltending
 
 Who really deserves the Hart
Beating a 5 and 7 seed doesn't change anything. Ovechkin is still the MVP. The trade was still absurd. The Pens still can't win the cup, and Marc Andre Fleury and the lack of defense will be the reason.
 
 Do you live a bubble? Detroit or Dallas would shred the Pens if they can make it to the finals. [/b]
right right, then pens have had no chance of proving anything yet in the playoffs, and have no chance of proving anything going forward. lets not even play the games
 
 grotty, that trade is worth it if they win the cup, and nothing else. hossa and gill were definitely needed additions, though. i'm not going to say ovie didnt deserve the hart, because he did what malkin did for the caps for a bigger part of the season
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« Reply #100 on: April 30, 2008, 09:06:00 am »
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Originally posted by Julian, certified WEBLEBRITY:
     
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
 
 The pens trade deadline deals
 
 The pens lack of defense & goaltending
 
 Who really deserves the Hart
Beating a 5 and 7 seed doesn't change anything. Ovechkin is still the MVP. The trade was still absurd. The Pens still can't win the cup, and Marc Andre Fleury and the lack of defense will be the reason.
 
  [/b]
that may be worst thing you've ever written. everyone in here is dumber for having read it.
 
 it is more likely what you hope than what you believe.
 
 because if you believe it - it means you don't know much about hockey & haven't been following along very closely.
 
 it's ok to admit you were very wrong about the trade -

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« Reply #101 on: April 30, 2008, 09:12:00 am »
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 right right, then pens have had no chance of proving anything yet in the playoffs, and have no chance of proving anything going forward. lets not even play the games
 
I didn't say they didn't have a chance to prove anything, simply that they hadn't and won't. Beating the 5, 6, and 7 seed is not a major accomplishment. If they get Montreal in the Eastern finals, and beat them, I'll be impressed. And I still maintain the team has no realistic chance to win the Cup.
 
 The trade is still asinine -- trade away the future of your second and third line for a rental in a season in which you had no viable, realistic shot to win the Cup. Dumb no matter who does it, and the overwhelming majority of hockey fans who aren't Pens rooters agree.

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« Reply #102 on: April 30, 2008, 09:13:00 am »
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Originally posted by i'm her slave:
 because if you believe it - it means you don't know much about hockey & haven't been following along very closely.
 
 it's ok to admit you were very wrong about the trade -
I pray nightly for a Wings/Pens final. If the Pens can win a single game it'd be one of the most shocking accomplishments in hockey history. Hell, I'm not sure they could win two against Dallas.

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« Reply #103 on: April 30, 2008, 09:21:00 am »
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Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 right right, then pens have had no chance of proving anything yet in the playoffs, and have no chance of proving anything going forward. lets not even play the games
 
The trade is still asinine -- trade away the future of your second and third line for a rental in a season in which you had no viable, realistic shot to win the Cup. Dumb no matter who does it, and the overwhelming majority of hockey fans who aren't Pens rooters agree. [/b]
Seriously - WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!??!
 
 the future of their 2ND & 3RD lines?!?!?!
 
 The Pens are rolling 4 SOLID lines. They can't even get a healthy Gary Roberts on the ice. They don't miss Armstrong or Christensen even a bit. It's like they never existed. They weren't the future. They were bit role players. The only future they gave up was the Esposito. Who is a big unknown.
 
 Someone who may know a bit more than the "porn star":
 
    http://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/183695  
 Allan Muir
 
 One of the toughest tricks of this profession is the deadline day trade breakdown story.
 
 It's really a no-win proposition. Everyone wants to talk about who got the better end of a deal, but at the same time, they realize that the winner -- if there is one -- won't become clear for months, maybe years. Best case scenario: The knee-jerk reactions provide plenty of fodder for fan banter.
 
 Yet, here I am again, strangely compelled to talk about who made the savviest moves as the clock wound down. And really, why not? Last-minute reinforcements have been critical to the late runs, and early playoff success, of several clubs.
 
 Here, then, is my ranking of the most impactful acquisitions (so far) of Deadline Day '08:
 
 1A and B: Adam Foote (photo) and Ruslan Salei:  The addition of these hard rock defenders didn't generate much of a splash on deadline day, but their physical presence clearly re-booted the battered Avs blueline. Both are eating up more than 20 minutes a night, and their calm, consistent performance has played a large role in the postseason success of Jose Theodore (Thursday night, notwithstanding). It was primarily the work of Foote and partner Kent Sauer that knocked the starch out of Minnesota's Marian Gaborik, limiting him to just one assist in their first round series.
 
 2 Vaclav Prospal: Ask $52 million man Daniel Briere why he's now playing his best hockey of the season, and he'll point to the arrival of Prospal. Frustrated by the way he was used in Tampa, the crafty left winger found instant chemistry -- and consistent first line minutes -- with Briere in Philly. He's chipped in 23 points in 25 games, including three goals and nine points in the first round series against Washington.
 
 3 Marian Hossa: His average of six shots per game in the first round illustrates the fast chemistry he's found with Sidney Crosby. His two-way game allows the Pens to separate Crosby and Evgeni Malkin, and gives them the two most dangerous lines in the postseason. But his biggest impact may have been cerebral, rather than on the scoreboard. When Ray Shero dealt considerable treasure to acquire the impending free agent, the message was clear: Win now. The Pens are playing like they believe they can.
 
 4. Sergei Fedorov: Perhaps inspired by his rescue from the sinking ship that was the Blue Jackets, the Fedorov who suited up for the Caps was a more aggressive and motivated asset than he'd been in years. He was an ideal replacement for the injured Michael Nylander, adding experience and defensive savvy to a young roster that was aching for veteran leadership.
 
 5. Cristobal Huet: The clock has already struck midnight on Washington's season, but Cinderella wouldn't have made it to the ball in the first place were it not for the reliable play of Huet. He earned criticism for some shaky work in the first two games against the Flyers, but rebounded strongly to help the Caps stretch the series to overtime of the seventh game.
 
 6. Hal Gill: Don't laugh. The defender whose legs appeared rooted into the ice on too many nights with the Leafs has rediscovered his game with the Pens. Credit coach Mike Therrien for slotting him into the proper role, and allowing him to stay within his comfort zone. His simple, physical approach has solidified both the third pairing and the penalty kill, but his best work may be ahead of him. He's been a Jagr-killer his entire career, and Gill's ability to contain the most dangerous Ranger could tilt the series in Pittsburgh's favor.
 
 7 Brad Richards: Although he struggled to find his place in the Stars' lineup leading up to the playoffs, the biggest catch of deadline day appears to have chemistry with a pair of Swedish wingers: Loui Eriksson and Joel Lundqvist. The trio combined for 14 points against the Ducks, and gave the Stars three threatening lines. Still, you have to think he can be better. He'll have to be if Dallas is to get past San Jose.
 
 8. Brian Campbell: Undeniably brilliant down the stretch, Campbell slid seamlessly into San Jose's roster, kickstarting the stalled engine that was the Sharks' transition game. But he's been an underachiever during the playoffs, making a number of questionable decision both with and without the puck. Hey, if he's ranked below Hal Gill, you know he's not meeting expectations

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Re: NHL Playoffs Thread...
« Reply #104 on: April 30, 2008, 09:28:00 am »
i'd say its too early to talk about matchups against the west yet, but other than that if the pens dont win the cup, the trade was bad i agree. i enjoy your hyperbolic certainty about the finals going the west's way, though   :D
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