2022 - dems in disarray thread

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

Terry should never have been the candidate; that’s what it boils down to….

  well I can't argue with that, jules and his "He bought me a beer so I'll vote for him" really swung the vote in the primaries
but there weren't great primary candidates either
why are we having such a hard time finding good candidates

But there was a lesson in Virginia which is democrats can’t run on simply trying to tie republicans to Trump or fearmongering about the end times if Republicans win….

yep and that seemed to be the strategy for 2022

[Starsky]

I also think abortion is a terrible issue to run on. It’s important and all but making it the centerpiece of your outreach to voters….

People are worried about inflation…about bills..

Democrats response: crickets

You could run on Biden’s record coming out of the pandemic. Surely there must be some way to explain inflation-not just a US phenomenon…it’s global right now…look at Great Britain- as resulting from the stimulus that was necessary to face the fact people couldn’t work. US jobs have come roaring back, the economy is growing (many other countries not!). And yet not a word is said so the message is “yes we have inflation and it sucks..we are trying!”? That is such a loser

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

well I can't argue with that, jules and his "He bought me a beer so I'll vote for him" really swung the vote in the primaries

Its better to be a kingmaker than a king.

[kosmo vinyl]

I’m still not exactly sure how Dems are supposed to control inflation in the face of obvious corporate malfeasance… did you know 60% of the bleach market is controlled by one company and they just raised their prices

Biden just last week announced a program to help households with their upcoming heating bills

The house passed a bill that would have dealt with rising gas prices and there were other bills too, but with the filibuster nothing is going to happen with any of that in the senate

[Starsky]

Definitely can’t control inflation.

But Democrats hardly talk up any good news regarding the economy. It’s all about abortion and Trump.

Corporations always get the blame for raising prices. They raise prices when their costs of doing business go up. And it becomes a cycle. One company raises prices then another follows etc. When wages fail to keep up people become relatively poorer and blame government. Obviously coming out of the pandemic there were global issues that caused inflation: supply chain issues, scarcity of workers, etc. Then the Russian invasion of Ukraine caused energy prices to go up…Blaming the evil rich corporations is stupid. It’s what governments do in places like Argentina. Nobody buys it and you lose credibility.

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

But Democrats hardly talk up any good news regarding the economy. It’s all about abortion and Trump.

appears was an agreed on policy across the board, seemed like a winning plan
but I agree now, it was not

Blaming the evil rich corporations is stupid.

Well I would argue it's not being done effectively
I do think our gov't should move forward with a new 'trust-busting' era as the consolidation in so many industries is off the charts compared to the turn of the last century

Everyone focuses on the silcon valley ones, but the areas I think we should focus on are the Food chain, healthcare  and energy
coporations are driving the conversation

Its complex, but the corps have the advantage in the PR. They have both sides of congress in their pockets and have convinced 1/2 of the voting population that they are doing the good of the people by exploiting them

[Starsky]

But Democrats hardly talk up any good news regarding the economy. It’s all about abortion and Trump.

appears was an agreed on policy across the board, seemed like a winning plan
but I agree now, it was not

Blaming the evil rich corporations is stupid.

Well I would argue it's not being done effectively
I do think our gov't should move forward with a new 'trust-busting' era as the consolidation in so many industries is off the charts compared to the turn of the last century

Everyone focuses on the silcon valley ones, but the areas I think we should focus on are the Food chain, healthcare  and energy
coporations are driving the conversation

It complex, but the corps have the advantage in the PR. They have both sides of congress in their pockets and have convinced 1/2 of the voting population that they are doing the good of the people by exploiting them

Well we are talking about inflation.

Let me get this straight: inflation for about 40 years has been really low but largely the same evil corporations devised a master plan to raise prices for no reason other than to line their pockets? Simultaneously and in cahoots with other corporations all over the world?

[grateful]

Corporations always get the blame for raising prices. They raise prices when their costs of doing business go up. And it becomes a cycle. One company raises prices then another follows etc. When wages fail to keep up people become relatively poorer and blame government. Obviously coming out of the pandemic there were global issues that caused inflation: supply chain issues, scarcity of workers, etc. Then the Russian invasion of Ukraine caused energy prices to go up…Blaming the evil rich corporations is stupid.

What are you even saying?

ExxonMobil recorded its higher ever quarterly profit - $17.9 billion dollars for three months - in 2022 Q2. If that's not evil corporation price gouging I have no idea what is. They could easily have held prices, or even lowered them and still had made more money than they know what to do with.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/08/08/oil-companies-profits-inflation/

[Starsky]

Oil companies make huge profits when oil PRICES go way up. Always been that way. But they don’t raise the cost of a barrel of oil. OPEC etc does that. Demand and supply to an extent.

Personally I think gas prices have been fine except for a few months. The barrel of oil is at close to $100! What do we expect? The same price at the pump as when it was $50? Just doesn’t work like that…

That’s part of the issue with inflation- energy prices- but it’s part and in my opinion a small part…we had gas prices much higher a few years ago and no inflation.

The real killer is the grocery store.

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

Let me get this straight: inflation for about 40 years has been really low but largely the same evil corporations devised a master plan to raise prices for no reason other than to line their pockets? Simultaneously and in cahoots with other corporations all over the world?

wow, you finally get it.
welcome to the party comrade, you will get a shirt and armband in the mail

[Starsky]

And you can probably blame the Saudis more than anyone. They are trying to torpedo Biden.

Biden faces a difficult international context with powerful enemies everywhere: the Saudis, Netanyahu, the Russians and China. All of them want Trump back.

[sweetcell]

what grateful said.  greedy corporations see prices increasing, so they tag on their own "inflation."  never let a good crisis go to waste.

i wouldn't be surprised to hear that companies with antipathy to the current administration - oil sector, perchance? - made a point of playing politics by raising prices more aggressively then if the GOP was in power.  fuel that unhappiness and pain at the pump/register/etc.  do their little part to get their guys back in.

[Starsky]

Poppycock and speculation. Typical Democrat anti-business BS.


I don’t care for oil companies either but when oil prices were low they struggled. They didn’t raise the price of gas at the pump! Hell it got to like $1.60 a gallon!

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

Ok, probably won't move the dial...but jez-louise

[Starsky]

I mean are there greedy corporations? Sure. And government has a role to play - regulation-  which democrats always talk about like getting big corporations to pay taxes… nothing ever seems to happen though…

Companies are always going to try to maximize profits. Biden’s strategy of trying to publicly shame oil companies is all bark and no bite. For the peanut gallery