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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3375 on: April 27, 2011, 06:37:54 pm »
Mourinho is killing football. He needs to stop coaching, had never seen someone with so much hatred, he is passing it to his players. this needs to stop.

I know.  I've never seen such hatred either....

Vansmarck, Guardiola has been silent all year long, but things have a limit. Mourinho has been like this since September, he has done a weak favor to football.  I predict that Mourinho won't have a place to coach in 5 years. he is killing his career, which is good for sport, but he is leaving a sad picture of what he brought to the game.

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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3376 on: April 28, 2011, 02:52:41 am »
M E S S I

Mourinho until now has the results to back him.... a lot of results...

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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3377 on: April 28, 2011, 08:36:08 am »
The 'special one' is probably the biggest con-man in the modern game. Give me a gazillion quid to spend on players to boost a team already full of quality players everytime I take a new coaching job and I'll bring you success.

I'd like to see him get a job with a team like Ipswich, and turn that around with their transfer kitty. That's coaching...

DOUCHE!!!

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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3378 on: April 28, 2011, 09:35:50 am »
The 'special one' is probably the biggest con-man in the modern game. Give me a gazillion quid to spend on players to boost a team already full of quality players everytime I take a new coaching job and I'll bring you success.

I'd like to see him get a job with a team like Ipswich, and turn that around with their transfer kitty. That's coaching...

DOUCHE!!!


I don't like Mou one bit but even if he has had big and stacked teams he's still been largely effective in the big situations... also lets not forget he had to make his name somewhere at the beginning...His record with Porto was something else..

godsshoeshine

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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3379 on: April 28, 2011, 09:47:12 am »
i like his press conferences
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Frank Gallagher

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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3380 on: April 28, 2011, 10:36:56 am »
The 'special one' is probably the biggest con-man in the modern game. Give me a gazillion quid to spend on players to boost a team already full of quality players everytime I take a new coaching job and I'll bring you success.

I'd like to see him get a job with a team like Ipswich, and turn that around with their transfer kitty. That's coaching...

DOUCHE!!!


I don't like Mou one bit but even if he has had big and stacked teams he's still been largely effective in the big situations... also lets not forget he had to make his name somewhere at the beginning...His record with Porto was something else..

I agree, my point is he's not 'the special one'. He's just good, like all managers at the top level. (Except Benitez, Who is crap)

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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3381 on: April 28, 2011, 02:21:17 pm »
I find him much more entertaining than the style of football his teams on the pitch display.
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Frank Gallagher

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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3382 on: April 28, 2011, 02:24:23 pm »
I find him much more entertaining than the style of football his teams on the pitch display.

But don't you think he just makes statements to make headlines sometimes? He's a media whore.

Morono or Guardiola to replace SAF???

I know who I would choose....Not even a contest.

godsshoeshine

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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3383 on: April 28, 2011, 02:31:31 pm »
I find him much more entertaining than the style of football his teams on the pitch display.
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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3384 on: April 28, 2011, 02:36:26 pm »
The 'special one' is probably the biggest con-man in the modern game. Give me a gazillion quid to spend on players to boost a team already full of quality players everytime I take a new coaching job and I'll bring you success.

I'd like to see him get a job with a team like Ipswich, and turn that around with their transfer kitty. That's coaching...

DOUCHE!!!


I don't like Mou one bit but even if he has had big and stacked teams he's still been largely effective in the big situations... also lets not forget he had to make his name somewhere at the beginning...His record with Porto was something else..


Hutch, good that you mention Mourinho's days in oporto. after all his complains throughout the year the same things he complains about are starting to turn against him.

I believe you speak spanish, read this article from a newspaper in Madrid (as you can imagine, this newspaper is far from being a Barça fan, but it would seem that people in Madrid are starting to understand the harm Mourinho is inflicting to the reputation of Real Madrid).  To me, he is a decent coach (as Mankie said, take him to a smaller team and see what he does without the money he got in Chelsea, Madrid or Inter) and worse yet, he is far from being a good human being.

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundodeporte/2011/04/28/futbol/1303990139.html

La frágil memoria de Mourinho

'Ellos lloraron, pero los perjudicados fuimos nosotros', reflexionaba Irureta, técnico del Deportivo (2004), tras caer en la semifinal ante el Oporto

Un gol en claro fuera de juego de Diego Milito en la ida de semifinales (2010) ante el Barça fue la clave para que los italianos ganaran la Champions

ELMUNDO.es | Madrid

Actualizado jueves 28/04/2011 18:19

"Guardiola es un fantástico entrenador de fútbol, que ha ganado una 'Champions' con el escándalo de Stamford Bridge, donde hubo cuatro penaltis que no se señalaron. Y si la gana ahora, será con el escándalo del Bernabéu, a mí me daría vergüenza ganarlas así. Le deseo que gane una Liga de Campeones blanca y brillante". Así irrumpió José Mourinho, casi desencajado, en la rueda de prensa posterior al primer 'clásico' europeo. Haciendo gala de una 'blancura y brillantez' con la que no contaron ninguna de sus dos coronas continentales con el Oporto y el Inter de Milán.

Porque la memoria suele ser frágil en estos casos. Quizás fuera el dolor de la roja a Pepe -injusta o discutible, según el bando- o quizás el sabor amargo de su primer revés europeo como entrenador del Real Madrid. El caso es que el técnico portugués olvida cómo accedió a la final en su primera Champions con el Oporto. Cómo la gente de A Coruña, igual que les pudo suceder a los seguidores del Chelsea, vivieron su particular pasión arbitral.

Aquel Deportivo recibió el cariñoso regalo del alemán Markus Merk en la ida en Portugal en forma de expulsión al central Andrade por una 'patada' cariñosa a su amigo Deco en la recta final del partido. "He is my friend (Es mi amigo)", suplicaba sin éxito el zaguero. En la vuelta, sin el sancionado Mauro Silva, que vio amarilla por protestar en Oporto, fue Pierluigi Collina el que dejó al Depor con 10, a falta de 20 minutos, por la doble amarilla a Naybet. Antes, ya había señalado un penalti, el que daba el pase a la final a los chicos de Mou, más por pillería de Deco que por la entrada del defensa César.

"Dos expulsiones, Víctor lesionado, un penalti. Todo una estrategia que ha ido bien. Se quejaban del tema de los árbitros en la ida, pero a nosotros no nos han tratado con justicia. Hemos sido más perjudicados. Ellos lloraron, pero los perjudicados fuimos nosotros". Es el resumen de Javier Irureta, entonces técnico del Depor, de aquellas semifinales de 2004.

El 'suplicio' con el Inter
Puede que siete años sean demasiado tiempo y más en el vertiginoso mundo del fútbol. Pero aún no se ha cumplido un año del histórico título del Inter de Milán. El juguete de Moratti al que Mourinho dio lustre gracias a Sneijder, Eto'o, Maicon o Julio César. Gracias a ellos y algunas decisiones arbitrales polémicas camino de la final.


El técnico luso recuerda a cada instante la gesta de jugar con 10 la vuelta de semifinales en el Camp Nou tras la roja a Motta. Cómo sufrieron durante una hora en inferioridad para aguantar las embestidas de los chicos de Guardiola. Cómo tuvieron que sortear los aspersores sobre en la fiesta del Camp Nou...

Quizás tanto sufrimiento debió borrar de su base de datos lo acontecido en la ida en el Giuseppe Meazza. Allí, los 'neroazzurri' sacaron medio billete a la final del Bernabéu gracias a un gol en claro fuera de juego de Diego Milito. [VER VÍDEO]. El 3-1 que echaba el cierre al marcador en tierras italianas. Allí, el famoso árbitro portugués Olegário Benquerença convirtió un derribo de Dani Alves en área interista en amarilla por simular.

Recuerda Mourinho con amargura el arbitraje de la vuelta del belga De Bleeckere pero olvida que su segunda Champions fue una realidad por la anulación de un gol a Bojan por una discutible mano previa de Touré Yayá. Olvida demasiadas cosas el ahora entrenador del Real Madrid. Entre otras que cómo apartó del camino en octavos de final a 'su' Chelsea... frente a diez y con algún que otro penalti sin señalar [VER VÍDEO]. Un pequeño escándalo en Stamford Bridge que apenas ruborizó al portugués durante las celebraciones de la Champions en su despedida con interista.

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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3385 on: April 28, 2011, 02:42:16 pm »
how can he damage the reputation of franco's club? that ship has sailed
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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3386 on: April 28, 2011, 03:28:03 pm »
how can he damage the reputation of franco's club? that ship has sailed

Exactly. 

I also see him taking a lot of the Real media pressure off his players by being so outlandish.  Anybody who takes him seriously clearly has no sense of humor and should go back and look at how SAF handled him when he was in charge of Chelsea.  That is why there is so much mutual respect between the two.
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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3387 on: April 28, 2011, 03:34:05 pm »
I agree, my point is he's not 'the special one'.

It was a self appointed title and an absolutely brilliant strategy. 

I remember SAF talking about how outlandish a statement it was but that it actually had an affect on the players at an otherwise mediocre club.  The players at Chelsea took notice and m,any of them played to more than just their potential because they actually believed it:


"I don't have much time left, he'd better hurry up," Ferguson joked. "I got on very well with him at Chelsea and I think it was a loss to the game when he went. I actually enjoyed watching him on the television. I thought he was good. He was cocky and confident but it was good for the game.

"Right away he came in and said, 'I'm the Special One', and we all thought, 'Who is this?' and his team thought, 'We'd better win here'. They got off to a start like nothing on earth and everybody was chasing their tail for the rest of the season and the next season, so we had to do something about it.

"He came to Chelsea and made that declaration himself. Don't forget he was self-anointed. People then sat up but his achievements are there to be recognised. We won it the final year that Jose was there and I think we were in the ascendancy then. We had to do something about Chelsea and we did it. We can't accept being second so you have to do something about it."
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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3388 on: April 28, 2011, 03:35:11 pm »
how can he damage the reputation of franco's club? that ship has sailed

TEAM DISNEY

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Re: On the Eve of the new Season...
« Reply #3389 on: April 28, 2011, 11:57:10 pm »
I don't understand all the naysaying about Mourinho... Its way overdone.


Barcelona, claro que leo espanhol pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto acerca de Mourinho..... es un DT super exitoso... que no te guste su estilo o las pavadas que dice para calentar los animos y hacer que los demas pierdan el control.. bueno, no te gusta.. pero y que? No lo defiendo pero no entiendo porque te calentas tanto.


Felicitaciones por la gran victoria del Barca.. en mi opinion el mejor equipo de los ultimos 20 anhos.