Dylan 4/2 @ 930

[Bags]

Originally posted by Bollocks:
  Why do you get all pissed off at someone trying to make a buck?

I'm not pissed off (yes, I think they are sleazy, but I'm allowed to think that).  I merely hope that the *market* works to screw them out of their investment.  It won't, but I'd love it to...

[brennser]

Originally posted by Bollocks:
  Why do you get all pissed off at someone trying to make a buck? This is America. If you don't want to pay $850 then don't buy the damn ticket...if you want to get pissed off at someone get pissed off at the chump who pays the $850, if it weren't for people like them there wouldn't be scalpers. AND NO! It's not blame the victim, nobody puts a gun to these peoples heads to buy tickets from scalpers.

agreed, its econ 101 in its purest form - if people wanna pay it, let em pay it - for people who have the tix I actually see it as a win win - either you sell for a ton of $$ or you get to see Dylan in a small club

[debaser64]

true. but it still bothers me that some people suck up blocks of tickets and sell them for outragous prices. shit, even on ebay, at least start at a reasonable price and let it get bid up instead of requiring almost a grand. its also shitty as a fan when you see people who dont even care selling tickets you would love at a price you cant afford.

[mankie]

Originally posted by Bags:
   

Originally posted by Bollocks:
  Why do you get all pissed off at someone trying to make a buck?

I'm not pissed off (yes, I think they are sleazy, but I'm allowed to think that).  I merely hope that the *market* works to screw them out of their investment.  It won't, but I'd love it to... [/b]

I don't know if you're a "sharer"  :roll:  but there's plenty of them on here....so with that in mind, it's evidently okay to steal music from the artists so they get diddly-squat for their work, but not okay to legitmately buy a ticket, of which the artist will get their portion, then sell it for profit to someone who wasn't on the ball but really wants to go.
 
 No?

[brennser]

it still bothers me that some people suck up blocks of tickets and sell them for outragous prices

I believe there was a 2 ticket max

[mankie]

Originally posted by debaser64:
  true. but it still bothers me that some people suck up blocks of tickets and sell them for outragous prices. shit, even on ebay, at least start at a reasonable price and let it get bid up instead of requiring almost a grand. its also shitty as a fan when you see people who dont even care selling tickets you would love at a price you cant afford.

Isn't the show tomorrow? Not much time for a bidding war.

[debaser64]

not just dylan, but shows in general. plus, i think you could get some decent bids before the show even got close. i mean, its bob fucking dylan!

[Bags]

Originally posted by Bollocks:
  [it's okay to share files] but not okay to legitmately buy a ticket, of which the artist will get their portion, then sell it for profit to someone who wasn't on the ball but really wants to go.
 
 No?

This whole argument makes no sense at all -- obviously the scalper price is high because the show is a sell out.  That means the artist will get its share of all available tickets, a set amount of money regardless of who buys the ticket -- and how often the tickets are resold!  
 
 Folks who didn't get tickets during the five minute window Dylan tix were available were not being lazy or "off" the ball...many of the folks who are looking at scalped tickets now tried to get their own through the site but couldn't.
 
 You're talking about the "artist's take" on scalp resales?  The artist sees none of that.  It's not akin to file sharing, but akin to *buying* used CDs.  A legitimate sale, but not flowing back to the artist in any way (except, of course, that the used CD sale may breed another fan who spends money on the rest of the artist's catalog or shows -- exactly like me!).

[bearman🐻]

With the way that tickets are so damn expensive to these things, it's up to the artist, not the consumer, to set a price. In my mind, scalping is like daytime robbery. You buy your tickets for the price that the artist deems necessary...if you end up reselling that ticket, in my mind the artist and venue should get a cut too. Ticketmaster are the jerks who just figured out a way to do it legally, so we pay them money for a service which we don't really need. With the internet, I just can't imagine that Ticketmaster is needed anyway...why don't we just buy tickets from the artists themselves through their sites (like Radiohead's WASTE) or through the venues? Just a thought. But scalping truly is sleazy, and that's just my opinion.

[Bags]

Originally posted by bunnyman:
  Ticketmaster are the jerks who just figured out a way to do it legally

Ain't that the truth....crazy like a fox, though.

[keithstg]

Originally posted by debaser64:
  true. but it still bothers me that some people suck up blocks of tickets and sell them for outragous prices. shit, even on ebay, at least start at a reasonable price and let it get bid up instead of requiring almost a grand. its also shitty as a fan when you see people who dont even care selling tickets you would love at a price you cant afford.

Again, econ 101. There have been measures put in to most ticket outlets to try and prevent blocks of tickets being snatched up (like having to key in a random word or something), but if that fails, there's really nothing to be done about it.

[grotty]

Who needs to buy a block of tickets, if you can sell a pair for $850!     :eek:    
 
 Some states have serious price limitations for ticket re-selling that ebay strictly enforces. Obviously not the District.
 
 Ebay's event ticket re-sell policy:
 
  rules
 
 It's hardly worth my while here in PA (+25%), but you've got unlimited potential there in good old DC.

[Bags]

yeah, can't you be arrested for scalping tickets on the street?  I think that's true in NYC.  And around the MCI center.  Thank god you can sell tix for face value in front of 9:30...(though is that legal, or they just don't care...)

[jkeisenh]

Silly, though... two auctions for two of the ticket items for sale on ebay don't end until after the show is over... how does that work?  (Here's $800 for tickets to yesterday's show?)

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  Silly, though... two auctions for two of the ticket items for sale on ebay don't end until after the show is over... how does that work?  (Here's $800 for tickets to yesterday's show?)

i haven't read the text of the auction, but often the seller will put a statement like. . .high bidder at 3:00 pm will get the tickets.  ebay has an option for the seller to end an auction early. . or can just put in a buy it now price and let that sit until someone buys it.