Frankensteins monster vs Someone who is not very clever

[hitman]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   

Originally posted by hitman:
 People want all the shit the govt. does for free.  Everyone needs to shut the fuck up and just pay the damn taxes!

While it is politically convenient to paint anyone that wants lower taxes as a simple greedy whore, it masks the larger issues.  Not everyone wants "all the shit govt. does."  
 
 I don't want the government running my healthcare.  I don't want them in my retirement savings.  I don't want them paying billions in sugar subsidies, or corn subsidies, or funding an emergency wool and mohair program in case there is an interruption of imported fabric.  I think we could all find dozens of things the government does that none of us want or need.  
 
 The government shouldn't be doing those things that people could better do for themselves.  Not only for financial reasons, but also because an increasing reliance on government ultimately undermines true community, where people should be looking out for their common good among themselves. [/b]

Granted, there are areas that you speak of where things could be trimmed.  However, that is such a small percentage of the whole, that even if you cut those things, it isn't going to make that much of a dent.  
 
 You put a lot of faith into the fact that people can do better for themselves.  I don't have that much faith in society as a whole.  Especially your feelings on community.  We live in a very ME society in general.  And whatever tax cuts are acheived just go to folks to buy bigger SUV's and rims to put on them.  Not necessarily a charitable donation, or to pay down debt.

[hitman]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  The biggest Republican complaint about Clinton's plan to go into Kosovo was that he "didn't have an exit strategy."
 
 It's a political ploy.  If you set a timetable, you are open to criticism that you are tying yourself to a schedule rather than to accomplishing the task.  If you say "we'll stay until the job is done" then you open yourself up to accusations that you lack an exit strategy.
 
   

Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
  I think that going into Iraq and not planning on leaving could be considered building an empire. Kerry plans on leaving, I dont really think Bush does. Hence no exit strategy....?
 

[/b]

1000 troops weren't killed in Kosovo, or in Somalia for that matter.  Not to mention the civilian body count.

[hitman]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 [QB] Seems that it's the Republicans are the ones spending irresponsibly and running up the deficit.
 
 I seem to remember a more balanced budget and better economy under Clinton.
 
 

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 Here Here!

Was glad Dale Earnhardt died...
 
 It's hard...

[hitman]

Originally posted by marquee smith:
  Was glad Dale Earnhardt died...
 
 It's hard...

I'm an avid watcher of Bill Maher, whether it was on Politically Incorrect, or now on Real Time.  This episode was great with Carlin, and with this skit on the Fox Facts.

[grotty]

to "Anybody who is undecided, if you think about it, being undecided is really dangerous, and I have a perfect example: people with mullets."
 
 E Vedder
 10/1 Reading, PA

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

He has a lot of nerve, mocking any haircut, after sporting this one:
  <img src="http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/399546.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 

Originally posted by grotty:
  to "Anybody who is undecided, if you think about it, being undecided is really dangerous, and I have a perfect example: people with mullets."
 
 E Vedder
 10/1 Reading, PA

[Fico]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Wow, an empire would be pretty cool.
 
   

Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
 
 Right now it looks like America may be on the verge of building an empire, do you want that?

[/b]

And as we learned from Star Wars, the Empire can strike back...

[Fico]

The saddest thing of all is that through this 4-page thread nobody has mentioned the killings of more than 20k CIVILIANS..it's shame to humanity as a whole that thousands upon thousands of innocent civilans have met their end so violently in this day in age...

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

You are right.
 But you gotta admit, Eddie Vedder's mohawk is a close second.
 
 

Originally posted by Fico:
  The saddest thing of all is that through this 4-page thread nobody has mentioned the killings of more than 20k CIVILIANS..it's shame to humanity as a whole that thousands upon thousands of innocent civilans have met their end so violently in this day in age...

[ratioci nation]

pains me to say it, but i think cheney is probably making a better impression on undecideds than Edwards
 
 the tone of this debate is much worse

[chaz]

Originally posted by pollard:
  pains me to say it, but i think cheney is probably making a better impression on undecideds than Edwards
 
 the tone of this debate is much worse

I dunno....I thought that Edwards came out of the gate great....been evening up since then.  Overall I give Edwards the edge so far.

[ratioci nation]

i just thought Edwards was pulling a Bush and answering the same way to everything at the start, and Cheney seems calm and confident, it is a very different presentation from the 2, just trying to see how a non-partisan would see it, hard to tell

[chaz]

I agree it's hard to view it from a non-partisan viewpoint.  It'll be interesting to see in the AM what kind of spin they put on the whole thing.
 
 One thing's for sure, Cheney's got the brains of the ticket and Bush got the shit for brains.

[ggw]

Everyone chant with me:
 
 Dick!
 Dick!
 Dick!
 Dick!