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Relaxer

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Re: Best album of the nineties
« Reply #60 on: February 12, 2003, 09:40:00 am »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joymonster:<BR><B> My list would be similar except I would had replaced De La Soul and DMX with Pete Rock &C.L. Smooth "Mecca and The Soul Brother", and Black Moon "Enta Da Stage". </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>To be honest, I hadn't heard of Black Moon's disc, but what I just read about it looks good. Ordered it, and it's on its way.<P>And #11 or #12 probably would be Mos Def 'Black on Both Sides'. Half of that album is great.
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Re: Best album of the nineties
« Reply #61 on: February 12, 2003, 01:30:00 pm »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Relaxer:<BR><B>For best hip-hop album in the 90s, I'd rank'em as:<P>1. Nas - Illmatic<BR>2. Wu Tang - 36 Chambers<BR>3. PE - Fear of a Black Planet<BR>4. Notorious BIG - Ready to Die<BR>5. JayZ - Reasonable Doubt <BR>6. Tribe Called Quest - Low End Theory<BR>7. DMX - Its Dark and Hell is Hot<BR>8. De La Soul - Is Dead<BR>9. 2Pac - All Eyez on Me<BR>10. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>A top 10 Hip Hop of the 90's list without "The Chronic" or "Doggystyle"?<BR>Come on. I'd also put  "Cypress Hill" on the list. For Wu-tang, I thought their second album was better. "Fear of a Black Planet" I thought was 1989, but it might be 1990. Either way, PE's best albulm was "It takes a nation of Millions".<P>

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Re: Best album of the nineties
« Reply #62 on: February 12, 2003, 01:45:00 pm »
The Chronic was a big album, and I can see the argument for it being in the top ten. Doggystyle... eh, it launched a career and is a fun album, but I see it in the same way as I see Nelly. Fun, very popular, but kinda disposal. <P>Cypress Hill would be better remembered if they'd been consistent, but they kept changing their sound. Not that it's a bad thing, but you can only cross over into metal and then back so many times. I think "Black Sunday" is superior to the debut, but I wouldn't put it in the top 25. <P>"Fear of a Black Planet" was 1990, and I'd argue that whatever the timing, it was better than "Nation of Millions". Millions was a breakthrough in terms of the sound and a new direction for hip-hop, but FOABP is where that sound matured. <P>If Wu Tang's "Forever" had been a single disc, it would be one of the best rap albums ever. As it is, half of it is unbelievable tracks like Reunited, Triumph and For Heaven's Sake, and half of it is Dog Shit and Duck Seazon. <P>Yes, I am a nerd.
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« Reply #63 on: February 12, 2003, 04:31:00 pm »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Relaxer:<BR><B>The Chronic was a big album, and I can see the argument for it being in the top ten. Doggystyle... eh, it launched a career and is a fun album, but I see it in the same way as I see Nelly. Fun, very popular, but kinda disposal. <P>Cypress Hill would be better remembered if they'd been consistent, but they kept changing their sound. Not that it's a bad thing, but you can only cross over into metal and then back so many times. I think "Black Sunday" is superior to the debut, but I wouldn't put it in the top 25. <P>"Fear of a Black Planet" was 1990, and I'd argue that whatever the timing, it was better than "Nation of Millions". Millions was a breakthrough in terms of the sound and a new direction for hip-hop, but FOABP is where that sound matured. <P>If Wu Tang's "Forever" had been a single disc, it would be one of the best rap albums ever. As it is, half of it is unbelievable tracks like Reunited, Triumph and For Heaven's Sake, and half of it is Dog Shit and Duck Seazon. <P>Yes, I am a nerd.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>No love for Dog Shit? I think thats ODB at his best..lol.. "Forever" did have some filler stuff, but when those guys were on, they were the shit.<P>"Doggystyle", "Cypress Hill", and "Black Sunday" all have with withstood the sands of time for me. They  still get rotation in my car. "Temples of Boom" from Cypress was also a great album.<P>I wish P.E. would have been lasted longer. The Apocolypse 91' album was good, but they just dropped big time after that. Mainly due to acts like Dre, Snoop, and Cypress bringing the rough G'd out image of L.A.<P>I saw you mention Gangstarr earlier. They are playing the club on the 26th. Should be a good show.<P>[This message has been edited by JRM (edited 02-12-2003).]<p>[This message has been edited by JRM (edited 02-12-2003).]

Dr. Anton Phibes

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Re: Best album of the nineties
« Reply #64 on: February 12, 2003, 07:11:00 pm »
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Originally posted by BLACKSTORM:<BR>VERVE - A STROM IN HEAVEN<P>OASIS - DEFINATELY MAYBE<P>FAITH NO MORE - ANGEL DUST<P>CHRIS ISSAK - FOREVER BLUE<P>RADIOHEAD - THE BENDS (ALL THE REST OF THEIR ALBUMS SUCK!)<P>RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE - EVIL EMPIRE<P>>>>>>>Angel Dust being one of the most underrated albums of ALL time......IMHO....99% of "rap metal" albums not even in the same town,let alone ballpark as this gem.....and this is not because Mike Patton is one of the nicest guys in the biz......<P>

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Re: Best album of the nineties
« Reply #65 on: February 12, 2003, 08:03:00 pm »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JRM:<BR><B> <P>I saw you mention Gangstarr earlier. They are playing the club on the 26th. Should be a good show.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Speaking of that show, how about Talib Kweli's Reflection Eternal?  Or was that 2000?<P>

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« Reply #66 on: February 12, 2003, 08:08:00 pm »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by walkman:<BR><B> Speaking of that show, how about Talib Kweli's Reflection Eternal?  Or was that 2000?<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That was 2000. Not a bad album, especially if you like Hi-Tek but Black Star was much, much better.  <BR>

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« Reply #67 on: February 12, 2003, 08:16:00 pm »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Barcelona:<BR><B> <BR>You put Low and Luna at the same level as Pavement's "crooked rain crooked rain"? Are you sure? I saw Low and Luna last year at the Blackcat and I think they were two of the worst shows I saw.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>well, let's see. . .the low and luna albums i listed came out in the mid 90s, and you saw the bands in 2002. . .how on earth can you make that statement based on that.  obviously you've never listened to either album. . .i'm surprised you didn't take a cheap shot at gbv while you were at it.  <BR>
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« Reply #68 on: February 12, 2003, 09:21:00 pm »
Three as-of-yet unmentioned gems:<BR>Built To Spill â?? Keep It Like A Secret<BR>Modest Mouse â?? Lonesome Crowded West (though Moon & Antarctica might be even better)<BR>Fugazi â?? 13 Songs<P>

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« Reply #69 on: February 13, 2003, 12:36:00 am »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Venerable Bede:<BR><B> well, let's see. . .the low and luna albums i listed came out in the mid 90s, and you saw the bands in 2002. . .how on earth can you make that statement based on that.  obviously you've never listened to either album. . .i'm surprised you didn't take a cheap shot at gbv while you were at it.  </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>It was just a question, no criticism was involved. I wasn't making fun about your musical taste. I guess I didn't write what I was exactly meaning. Of course those two bands might have changed a lot between the mid 90s and now, but it's just that I can;t remember anything good from their shows last year. I guess my whole point was that I felt it was a strange thing to see Pavement and these two bands together in your list of best albums of the 90s.<P>As for GBV, after criticizing them so much (I was joking with Jadatree in many cases), I ended up respecting them. I haven't changed my opinion about their music, but I respect them much more than let's say Foo Fighters and the whole David Grohl myth.

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Re: Best album of the nineties
« Reply #70 on: February 13, 2003, 01:43:00 am »
I would say<P>10. Blue Lines by Massive Attack<BR>9.  A Storm In Heaven by Verve<BR>8.  Laser Guided Melodies by Spiritualized<BR>7.  The Soft Bulletin by The Flaming Lips<BR>6.  The Three Eps by The Beta Band<BR>5.  Slanted and Enchanted by Pavement<BR>4.  Moon Safari by Air<BR>3.  Screamadelica by Primal Scream<BR>2.  Deserter's Songs by Mercury Rev<BR>1.  Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space by Spiritualized

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« Reply #71 on: February 13, 2003, 09:53:00 am »
Do you kids listen to ANYTHING other than "modern rock" and "hiphop"?

Santos L. Halper

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« Reply #72 on: February 13, 2003, 10:15:00 am »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark:<BR><B>Do you kids listen to ANYTHING other than "modern rock" and "hiphop"?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I listen to the "voices in my head".

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« Reply #73 on: February 13, 2003, 10:26:00 am »
What did the top ten "voices in your head" tell you in the 90's? Did they tell you that you would be in danger of a terrorist attack and you should get the hell out of DC?<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Santos L. Halper:<BR><B> I listen to the "voices in my head".</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>

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Re: Best album of the nineties
« Reply #74 on: February 13, 2003, 10:41:00 am »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Henry Dark:<BR><B>Do you kids listen to ANYTHING other than "modern rock" and "hiphop"?</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>John Browns Body -- Among Them<BR>Burning Spear -- Calling Rastafari<BR>Lee Perry -- Arkology