HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

I think the point that Smackie is making is that if it was released as a normal in stores CD, none of those places even mention they have a CD out. The newsworthy element of the story is not "Radiohead's music" but "Radiohead's marketing plan."

[Sage 703]

Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
   

Originally posted by callat703:
 Drudge is pretty well respected, like it or not.  

By whom, Newt Gingrich? No one who has ever even considered -- even for a second -- voting for a Non-Republican considers Drudge a "reputable" source. [/b]

That's a debate for another thread.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by callat703:
  I think that's a pretty elementary connection.

I think the definition of "itself" is fairly elementary.
 
 "with respect to its inherent nature"
 
 So how deoes the ditrubution of the music relate to the inherent nature of the music?  At all?

[Sage 703]

Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
  I think the point that Smackie is making is that if it was released as a normal in stores CD, none of those places even mention they have a CD out. The newsworthy element of the story is not "Radiohead's music" but "Radiohead's marketing plan."

Yes, I understand that.  But without the relevance and global impact of Radiohead's music, Radiohead's marketing plan is not newsworthy.
 
 EDIT: To further clarify, the only reason that Radiohead is newsworthy, I'm contending, is due to their music.  They aren't celebrities, they don't make a great deal of public commentary, they aren't dating models...they're just a band putting out a record.

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by callat703:
 Yes, I understand that.  But without the relevance and global impact of Radiohead's music, Radiohead's marketing plan is not newsworthy.

Without the relevance and global impact of Britney's back catalog, Britney's antics are not newsworthy.

[Sage 703]

Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
   

Originally posted by callat703:
 Yes, I understand that.  But without the relevance and global impact of Radiohead's music, Radiohead's marketing plan is not newsworthy.

Without the relevance and global impact of Britney's back catalog, Britney's antics are not newsworthy. [/b]

Sure - but her story became about something else, completely unrelated to music.  You're going to argue that crotch shots and gossip rags covering her custody battles and then mentioning at the end that she's got a new record is akin to CNN doing an I-Report on how much listeners will pay for the new Radiohead record?

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
   

Originally posted by callat703:
 Yes, I understand that.  But without the relevance and global impact of Radiohead's music, Radiohead's marketing plan is not newsworthy.

Without the relevance and global impact of Britney's back catalog, Britney's antics are not newsworthy. [/b]

dude, get over it, did Radiohead kill your dog or something?  jesus h christ

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Look if any relatively large band, well say Red Hot Chili Peppers, released an album in this manner, it'd get the same amount of coverage. If Justin Timberlake did it, it probably gets MORE coverage. Radiohead being on CNN is not some affirmation of the universalness of their music. That's a fanboy wank statement, my friend.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
   

Originally posted by Brian Wallace:
  Radiohead?  The Smashing Pumpkins?  Both are in love with the smell of their own farts.

You know, when faced with an actual 14 year old, I feel the need to retract any comments likening Sonick to one. My apologies. [/b]

that was an actual LOL-er.  a few of them actually.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by callat703:
  CNN doing an I-Report on how much listeners will pay for the new Radiohead record?

Again, that's not about the music itself, that's about the record industry and Radiohead's attempt to change the status quo.  But for their attempt to change the status quo, Radiohead's music itself is not newsworthy to CNN, Time, etc.

[manimtired]

Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
   

Originally posted by callat703:
 Drudge is pretty well respected, like it or not.  

By whom, Newt Gingrich? No one who has ever even considered -- even for a second -- voting for a Non-Republican considers Drudge a "reputable" source. [/b]

Drudge links to CNN and Time all the time so what the fuck are you talking about?

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by le sonick:
  dude, get over it, did Radiohead kill your dog or something?  jesus h christ

No, like I said earlier, Radiohead are my second favorite band. I just find it ridiculous the levels some of you are taking some of this. Radiohead is not the biggest band in the world, nor does media coverage over a detail only tangentially related to their musical output constitute an affirmation that they're the modern day Beatles. If I ever said any of this nonsense, I'd get flamed so quickly your head would spin.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by manimtired:
  Drudge links to CNN and Time all the time so what the fuck are you talking about?

Let me know when it's vice versa, and not just the Republicans using Drudge as a tool for their smear campaigns.  That is why he's not respected.

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by manimtired:
  Drudge links to CNN and Time all the time so what the fuck are you talking about?

Not all of Drudge's "articles" are links to a reputable news source. In the past election cycle he reported a "guarantee" the Hillary Clinton was running in 2004, and also revealed the John Kerry had slept with an intern and paid her off. That's reputable journalism, for sure.

[Sage 703]

Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
  Look if any relatively large band, well say Red Hot Chili Peppers, released an album in this manner, it'd get the same amount of coverage. If Justin Timberlake did it, it probably gets MORE coverage. Radiohead being on CNN is not some affirmation of the universalness of their music. That's a fanboy wank statement, my friend.

Fair enough, that was a simplified way of pointing out the interest in the band.  I don't mean to imply that media coverage on that scale is indicative, by itself, of universal interest.
 
 It was meant as an example of a larger point - the one that I'm trying to get at - the ONLY thing that has ever driven interest in Radiohead is their music.  People want to HEAR what they are going to do.  With almost every other musical entity on their level, it is about something in addition to music - be it celebrity or something else.
 
 I'll be fascinated to see how many downloads they end up with from the official site.