Originally posted by le sonick:
and would everyone quit talking about fucking concert sales = musical talent!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS
NOT
RELEVANT
You made it so. You said earlier that Radiohead is AND I QUOTE, " . . . the best fucking band in the world." Fine. As a man, it is your God-given fucking right to believe that. Believe it. Just remember, you can't get a chick pregnant standing up as well.
Seriously, had you stopped there I have no issues with that. 703's comments were completely erroneous, though. But you chose to concur. Don't take my word for it. Here:
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by callat703:
See, I disagree with you. I would contend that Radiohead is the biggest band in the world.
I agree. wholeheartedly. [/b]
I sure didn't post that. And my name is The Director - not David Blaine.
Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Other than Muse - who are a joke - and perhaps Clinic, what other bands have really been shaped by the way Radiohead makes music?
Coldplay. [/b]
I file that under wrong. Please note below quote by none other than Chris Martin, frontman of said band who whines in front of a piano & has a child named after a fruit:
I don't buy weekend tickets to Ireland and hang out in front of their gates, but
U2 are the only band whose entire catalog I know by heart. The first song on The Unforgettable Fire, "A Sort of Homecoming," I know backward and forward -- it's so rousing, brilliant and beautiful. It's one of the first songs I played to my unborn baby.
The first U2 album I ever heard was Achtung Baby. It was 1991, and I was fourteen years old. Before that, I didn't even know what albums were. From that point, I worked backward -- every six months, I'd get to buy a new U2 album. The sound they pioneered -- the driving bass and drums underneath and those ethereal, effects-laden guitar tracks floating out from above -- was nothing that had been heard before. They may be the only good anthemic rock band ever. Certainly they're the best.
What I love most about U2 is that the band is more important than any of their songs or albums. I love that they're best mates and have an integral role in one another's lives as friends. I love the way that they're not interchangeable -- if Larry Mullen Jr. wants to go scuba diving for a week, the rest of the band can't do a thing. U2 -- like Coldplay -- maintain that all songs that appear on their albums are credited to the band. And they are the only band that's been around for twenty years with no member changes and no big splits.
It's amazing that
the biggest band in the world has so much integrity and passion in their music. Our society is thoroughly screwed, fame is a ridiculous waste of time, and celebrity culture is disgusting. There are only a few people around brave enough to talk out against it, who use their fame in a good way. And
every time I try, I feel like an idiot, because I see Bono actually getting things achieved. While everyone else is swearing at George Bush, Bono is the one who rubs Bush's back and gets a billion dollars for Africa. People can be so cynical -- they don't like do-gooders -- but Bono's attitude is, "I don't care what anybody thinks, I'm going to speak out." He's accomplished so much with Greenpeace, in Sarajevo, at the concert to shut down the Sellafield nuclear plant, and he still runs the gantlet. When the time came for Coldplay to think about fair trade, we took his lead to speak out regardless of what anyone may think. That's what
we've learned from U2: You have to be brave enough to be yourself. - Chris Martin, Lead Singer Of U2 Tribute Band Minus Guitars Plus Piano - Coldplay (another band that sells far more than Radiohead)
Back to Sonick. Comb over my statements. Sales of tickets & records will never speak to Radiohead's place in history. That e-avalanche occured because of you agreement they're the biggest band out. As I said, they are true artists & future legends. But for you & 703 to say they are the
biggest band in the world is completely erroneous. Also, drawing a parallel between The Pixies & Velvet Underground with Radiohead in terms of influence is off as well. Pixies & Velvet were special & earned a place in rock's pantheon, in the fact they:
1) Were waaay ahead of their time, and had MANY bands emulate them. i.e. The Pixies quiet-LOUD-quiet song format (Nirvana, anyone?)
2) Those 2 bands sold very few units, but the ones that did buy them pretty much all went out & started a band.
Radiohead has their own lane, I will concede, & I respect that to the utmost but their sphere of influence does not stretch nearly that far. They've been making "Fuck You" albums for years now, & only get a pass on that because of Pablo, Bends, & OK. Remember, that's the same shit that sunk R.E.M.'s boat post-
New Adventures In Hi-Fi. They went from (arguably) best band out to "Who gives a fuck?", which I'm quite sure Radiohead knew hence "genius" marketing/distribution campaign. Credit though, cause my dissertation length posts are proof it's working.
That's all for now, cause I personally am quite tired of talking about Radiohead. I'll give their new album a chance. Again. Before I decide if their new album's yet another audio equivalent of getting first date head without a swallow (disappointing & unmemorable).
Again.
