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sonickteam2

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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
« Reply #180 on: October 10, 2007, 03:59:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
 
 
 And as for Coachella, the Radiohead Coachella of 2005 did not sell out. This year's with Rage Against The Machine (again, terrible) did. Although, since those are multi-band events, it's apples and oranges. I do not believe Radiohead's Bonnaroo show sold out in '06 either.
 
Radiohead played Coachella in 2004.
 
 and actually, the day Radiohead played was the very first day Coachella ever sold out.
 
  course Kraftwerk and the Pixies played that night, but still. just sayin, it sold out.
 
  in fact, one could argue that after Radiohead played, Coachella was never the same and sold out regularly after that.

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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
« Reply #181 on: October 10, 2007, 04:00:00 pm »
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Originally posted by callat703:
  Actually, at this point?  I think Radiohead could equal U2 in ticket sales.
Extremely doubtful. In the US, I don't think they could equal Dave Matthews Band. When Radiohead plays amphitheaters, correct me if I'm wrong, but the lawns don't usually sell out, right? [/b]
If you randomly picked 100 Americans who described themselves as music lovers and asked them to name a Radiohead song, the great majority would say "what was that song with the *chunka* *chunka* guitar part?" If you asked a similar group to name a U2 song, you'd get about 5 or 6 responses.
 
 Radiohead is a fine band that is very successful, but U2 long ago reached (and has remained on) that level of fame that only Michael, Bruce, and Madonna are on. The average person couldn't hum any Radiohead song except Creep, but the average person could surely hum Pride, Streets Have No Name, W/ or W/O You, Mysterious Ways, Beautiful Day, Vertigo, and probably several more.
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
« Reply #182 on: October 10, 2007, 04:00:00 pm »
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Originally posted by le sonick:
  oh no, we got the U2 fan into it now.    :D  
All I'm saying is U2 chose to not play stadiums in America.  Their Australia and New Zealand shows (and many UK shows) were at 60,000+ Stadiums.  Do some homework before making a blanket statement like that, that's all I'm saying.
 
 And I've been here from the beginning.
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
« Reply #183 on: October 10, 2007, 04:02:00 pm »
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Originally posted by le sonick:
  Radiohead played Coachella in 2004.
 
 and actually, the day Radiohead played was the very first day Coachella ever sold out.
 
  course Kraftwerk and the Pixies played that night, but still. just sayin, it sold out.
Then I stand corrected on that fact.
 
 But it still doesn't affect my overall contention that Radiohead is not the "number one" concert draw in a world with DMB, Madonna, Bruce Springsteen, and U2. Definitely not in North America, at least. The case could be made for Europe, I suppose.
 
 EDIT: Heck, I'd bet just for giggles that the next Radiohead tour doesn't sell as quickly as the Hannah Montana tour just did.    :D

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« Reply #184 on: October 10, 2007, 04:03:00 pm »
i think Drudge IS a meta-news site 99.9% of the time...i think i'll check it now b/c i cant deal with anymore radiohead talk.

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« Reply #185 on: October 10, 2007, 04:04:00 pm »
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Originally posted by le sonick:
  oh no, we got the U2 fan into it now.      :)

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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
« Reply #186 on: October 10, 2007, 04:05:00 pm »
I'll do Daft Punk homework. *drumfill*

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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
« Reply #187 on: October 10, 2007, 04:05:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
   
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Originally posted by Julian, good manners AFICIONADO:
     
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Originally posted by callat703:
  Actually, at this point?  I think Radiohead could equal U2 in ticket sales.
Extremely doubtful. In the US, I don't think they could equal Dave Matthews Band. When Radiohead plays amphitheaters, correct me if I'm wrong, but the lawns don't usually sell out, right? [/b]
If you randomly picked 100 Americans who described themselves as music lovers and asked them to name a Radiohead song, the great majority would say "what was that song with the *chunka* *chunka* guitar part?" If you asked a similar group to name a U2 song, you'd get about 5 or 6 responses.
 
 Radiohead is a fine band that is very successful, but U2 long ago reached (and has remained on) that level of fame that only Michael, Bruce, and Madonna are on. The average person couldn't hum any Radiohead song except Creep, but the average person could surely hum Pride, Streets Have No Name, W/ or W/O You, Mysterious Ways, Beautiful Day, Vertigo, and probably several more. [/b]
This is a good point.  If you want to go purely by these tangibles, then I'm sure you're right - there are bands that would generate greater name recognition or song recognition than Radiohead.
 
 My contention is more along the lines of sonick's, where there are intangibles to be debated.  Influence being one of the biggest.

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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
« Reply #188 on: October 10, 2007, 04:05:00 pm »
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Originally posted by le sonick:
 i dont need to do "U2 homework", thats what you're hear for.    :p  
Fine by me, but change your moniker to Matt Drudge.
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« Reply #189 on: October 10, 2007, 04:07:00 pm »
the average american "music lover" also bought tickets to the Puddle of Mudd / Saliva show too.
 
  please.
 
 
 poll 100 americans and no matter what, you get a stupid answer.

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« Reply #190 on: October 10, 2007, 04:07:00 pm »
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Originally posted by le sonick:
 i dont need to do "U2 homework", thats what you're hear for.     :p  
Fine by me, but change your moniker to Matt Drudge. [/b]
hey, i thought we were talking "american shows"  here. since julian was referencing local shows too.

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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
« Reply #191 on: October 10, 2007, 04:08:00 pm »
The Lawn was packed at the 2003 Merriweather show.

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« Reply #192 on: October 10, 2007, 04:09:00 pm »
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Originally posted by le sonick:
  you have those stats mr. ticket sales?   :)  
You've come a long way from your first statement that ticket sales and album sales aren't a good measure....
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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
« Reply #193 on: October 10, 2007, 04:12:00 pm »
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Originally posted by le sonick:
  you have those stats mr. ticket sales?    :)  
You've come a long way from your first statement that ticket sales and album sales aren't a good measure.... [/b]
not even CLOSE
 
   but as long as you're droppin all this knowledge of venue sizes of tours across the world, i just thought you might have info on Radiohead too.  its not really much of a discussion if we only know about one of the bands.
 
   it would be like assuming Boston had a shaky bullpen just because you know yours is damn good.

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Re: HOLY CRAP - NEW RADIOHEAD ALBUM 10/10/07
« Reply #194 on: October 10, 2007, 04:13:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Mobius:
  The Lawn was packed at the 2003 Merriweather show.
i am mostly sure it was sold out, seth can tell us i imagine.