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Title: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: RatBastard on June 02, 2014, 06:26:49 pm
Couldn't find a thread for this so...


15% off entire bill at Outback Steakhouse through June 8th.


http://www.outback.com/coupons/15-percent-off-coupon?utm_source=outbackemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=15Percent-Reminder-06-02-2014

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Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 02, 2014, 08:14:09 pm
I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on June 02, 2014, 08:47:36 pm
I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?
Whaa??
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 02, 2014, 09:08:41 pm
I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?

Doubly whaaa...I wouldn't be caught dead in that establishment.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 02, 2014, 09:09:52 pm
hand jobs in the back . . . no coupon required.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: grateful tagle zuppi pizzaboli on June 02, 2014, 09:21:28 pm
hand jobs in the back . . . no coupon required.

$20, same as downtown.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 02, 2014, 09:27:41 pm
two hands, for the price of one.  deal of the day.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: sweetcell on June 02, 2014, 09:28:10 pm
worth repeating... expires July 8:

$8 Growler of Craft Beer from Whole Foods Market P Street (Regularly $15)
P Street - Logan Circle

Growlers are now on tap at Whole Foods Market P Street! Get this deal and take home a 32oz. growler ($5 value) filled with $10 worth of delicious beer.

Limit one certificate per transaction * Tax not included * No cash back * No cash value * Present certificate prior to ordering * Valid at P Street location only * Offer good towards one 32 oz. or 64 oz. growler ($5 value) filled with up to $10 worth of beer * Must be 21 or older with valid photo ID * Promotional value expires July 8, 2014.

http://realdeal.washingtoncitypaper.com/deals/whole-foods-growler-with-10-worth-of-craft-beer-15-value
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Relaxer on June 03, 2014, 09:25:57 am
I can't imagine that Julian would deign to post in a thread for the poor unless perhaps to donate his takeaway carton to lessers.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 11:00:01 am
Just the idea of Julian or Yada doing any coupon clipping/money saving of any kind had me laughing! Particularly for something like Outback.


I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?

Doubly whaaa...I wouldn't be caught dead in that establishment.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 11:07:28 am
Just the idea of Julian or Yada doing any coupon clipping/money saving of any kind had me laughing! Particularly for something like Outback.


I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?

Doubly whaaa...I wouldn't be caught dead in that establishment.

I'm glad my perceived spending habits make you laugh... but I'm actually quite thrifty. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 11:15:59 am
How much money per year would you say you spend at restaurants and bars?

I bet way more than the average American. Though perhaps your income is way higher than the average American.

Just the idea of Julian or Yada doing any coupon clipping/money saving of any kind had me laughing! Particularly for something like Outback.


I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?

Doubly whaaa...I wouldn't be caught dead in that establishment.

I'm glad my perceived spending habits make you laugh... but I'm actually quite thrifty. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 11:19:49 am
How much money per year would you say you spend at restaurants and bars?

I bet way more than the average American. Though perhaps your income is way higher than the average American.

Just the idea of Julian or Yada doing any coupon clipping/money saving of any kind had me laughing! Particularly for something like Outback.


I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?

Doubly whaaa...I wouldn't be caught dead in that establishment.

I'm glad my perceived spending habits make you laugh... but I'm actually quite thrifty. 

I feel like this is headed towards another James Ford life lesson on why you should never spend money. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 11:32:19 am
Nah, no lessons.

Depending on how much you make and what other bills you have, one can certainly afford to dine and drink at the establishments that get mentioned in the Gastro and Beer threads on this board. But I'd hardly call a diet of gourmet DC restaurants and craft beer (and wine and liquor?) as being "thrifty".



How much money per year would you say you spend at restaurants and bars?

I bet way more than the average American. Though perhaps your income is way higher than the average American.

Just the idea of Julian or Yada doing any coupon clipping/money saving of any kind had me laughing! Particularly for something like Outback.


I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?

Doubly whaaa...I wouldn't be caught dead in that establishment.

I'm glad my perceived spending habits make you laugh... but I'm actually quite thrifty. 

I feel like this is headed towards another James Ford life lesson on why you should never spend money. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 11:35:43 am
How much money per year would you say you spend at restaurants and bars?

I bet way more than the average American. Though perhaps your income is way higher than the average American.

Just the idea of Julian or Yada doing any coupon clipping/money saving of any kind had me laughing! Particularly for something like Outback.


I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?

Doubly whaaa...I wouldn't be caught dead in that establishment.

I'm glad my perceived spending habits make you laugh... but I'm actually quite thrifty. 

I'm not quite sure why you care what I spend my money on. ...but this is most likely accurate.

"Though perhaps your income is way higher than the average American."



Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 11:41:48 am
Nah, no lessons.

Depending on how much you make and what other bills you have, one can certainly afford to dine and drink at the establishments that get mentioned in the Gastro and Beer threads on this board. But I'd hardly call a diet of gourmet DC restaurants and craft beer (and wine and liquor?) as being "thrifty".



How much money per year would you say you spend at restaurants and bars?

I bet way more than the average American. Though perhaps your income is way higher than the average American.

Just the idea of Julian or Yada doing any coupon clipping/money saving of any kind had me laughing! Particularly for something like Outback.


I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?

Doubly whaaa...I wouldn't be caught dead in that establishment.

I'm glad my perceived spending habits make you laugh... but I'm actually quite thrifty. 

I feel like this is headed towards another James Ford life lesson on why you should never spend money. 

James, my mortgage last year = about 7.5% of me and my wife's gross income. I maxed out my 401k and my wife maxed out her SEP account, we invested a additional amount of money in the market, AND... we have life insurance. I don't buy "things." I spend money on doing things I enjoy; drinking, eating, seeing music, traveling. I buy clothes at Target or actually... I don't buy clothes. And based on the picture I posted of myself last week, I obviously don't get haircuts.

I'm glad you're so concerned about my once again perceived lack of thriftiness. I've long tried to stay away from responding to your uninformed posts about finances, insurance, investing, etc. but you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 11:47:45 am
Great job managing your finances!

I'm not accusing you of anything. I myself buy craft beer, eat good food, and go on nice vacations. I also don't buy lots of "things".  We're probably very alike in those respects.

But don't call yourself thrifty, at least when it comes to food and beverage purchases, on a food coupon thread! I mean, come on!

And I don't for one second believe that picture was a picture of you.


Nah, no lessons.

Depending on how much you make and what other bills you have, one can certainly afford to dine and drink at the establishments that get mentioned in the Gastro and Beer threads on this board. But I'd hardly call a diet of gourmet DC restaurants and craft beer (and wine and liquor?) as being "thrifty".



How much money per year would you say you spend at restaurants and bars?

I bet way more than the average American. Though perhaps your income is way higher than the average American.

Just the idea of Julian or Yada doing any coupon clipping/money saving of any kind had me laughing! Particularly for something like Outback.


I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?

Doubly whaaa...I wouldn't be caught dead in that establishment.

I'm glad my perceived spending habits make you laugh... but I'm actually quite thrifty. 

I feel like this is headed towards another James Ford life lesson on why you should never spend money. 

James, my mortgage last year = about 7.5% of me and my wife's gross income. I maxed out my 401k and my wife maxed out her SEP account, we invested a additional amount of money in the market, AND... we have life insurance. I don't buy "things." I spend money on doing things I enjoy; drinking, eating, seeing music, traveling. I buy clothes at Target or actually... I don't buy clothes. And based on the picture I posted of myself last week, I obviously don't get haircuts.

I'm glad you're so concerned about my once again perceived lack of thriftiness. I've long tried to stay away from responding to your uninformed posts about finances, insurance, investing, etc. but you really have no clue what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2014, 12:19:48 pm
James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
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Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 01:19:34 pm
Buyer beware on this one.

The last time I was in P Street Whole Foods, their growler fill prices were so, so, so much higher than the growler fill prices at Foggy Bottom Whole Foods, that this offer was pointless.

I used mine way back when, and it was worth it then. I actually logged into my account recently, and found that my previous transaction hadn't invalidated my certificate. In essence, I could have a second (or maybe even more) certificate at no cost. But prices on the beer started at prices well above $10. So you were only getting a $10 discount on way overpriced beer, and in my case a growler I didn't need. So I passed.


worth repeating... expires July 8:

$8 Growler of Craft Beer from Whole Foods Market P Street (Regularly $15)
P Street - Logan Circle

Growlers are now on tap at Whole Foods Market P Street! Get this deal and take home a 32oz. growler ($5 value) filled with $10 worth of delicious beer.

Limit one certificate per transaction * Tax not included * No cash back * No cash value * Present certificate prior to ordering * Valid at P Street location only * Offer good towards one 32 oz. or 64 oz. growler ($5 value) filled with up to $10 worth of beer * Must be 21 or older with valid photo ID * Promotional value expires July 8, 2014.

http://realdeal.washingtoncitypaper.com/deals/whole-foods-growler-with-10-worth-of-craft-beer-15-value
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 01:21:07 pm
I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 01:31:11 pm
Nah, no lessons.

Depending on how much you make and what other bills you have, one can certainly afford to dine and drink at the establishments that get mentioned in the Gastro and Beer threads on this board. But I'd hardly call a diet of gourmet DC restaurants and craft beer (and wine and liquor?) as being "thrifty".



How much money per year would you say you spend at restaurants and bars?

I bet way more than the average American. Though perhaps your income is way higher than the average American.

Just the idea of Julian or Yada doing any coupon clipping/money saving of any kind had me laughing! Particularly for something like Outback.


I wonder who will post more in this thread, Julian or Yada?

Doubly whaaa...I wouldn't be caught dead in that establishment.

I'm glad my perceived spending habits make you laugh... but I'm actually quite thrifty. 

I feel like this is headed towards another James Ford life lesson on why you should never spend money. 

James, my mortgage last year = about 7.5% of me and my wife's gross income. I maxed out my 401k and my wife maxed out her SEP account, we invested a additional amount of money in the market, AND... we have life insurance. I don't buy "things." I spend money on doing things I enjoy; drinking, eating, seeing music, traveling. I buy clothes at Target or actually... I don't buy clothes. And based on the picture I posted of myself last week, I obviously don't get haircuts.

I'm glad you're so concerned about my once again perceived lack of thriftiness. I've long tried to stay away from responding to your uninformed posts about finances, insurance, investing, etc. but you really have no clue what you're talking about.

Ha I got you beat.  My wife's mortgage is 4.3 percent of our combined income.   I will have to end up moving when my child is ready for school but right now I am enjoying not having much of a mortgage. 

I like to spend money it is fun.  I like expensive jeans, glasses, shirts, watches, cars.  I like to go to expensive restaurants and order expensive food.  I like staying in 5 star hotels when I am on vacation.    If I wasn't going to spend so much money I could get a job that is fun like being a lifeguard. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2014, 01:32:08 pm
I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

what's your goal of being thrifty/frugal, JF? one can be frugal or thrifty for decades, and find themselves in a financial situation where they can start to splurge in certain areas, and continue to be thrifty in others.  i call this "investing in yourself".  sounds like yada has been plenty thrifty in his lifetime if he's allowed the luxuries you speak of, and you maybe should be asking him for advice rather than providing yours unsolicited.  
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 01:32:17 pm


A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

Sounds like a bunch of losers.  
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 01:35:32 pm
I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

I love cheap ethnic food too and I shop at Safeway. I'm sure you criticize your wealthy friends for not cooking their own feijoada like you and your wife.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 01:36:13 pm
I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

what's your goal of being thrifty/frugal, JF? one can be frugal or thrifty for decades, and find themselves in a financial situation where they can start to splurge in certain areas, and continue to be thrifty in others.  i call this "investing in yourself".  sounds like yada has been plenty thrifty in his lifetime if he's allowed the luxuries you speak of, and you maybe should be asking him for advice rather than providing yours unsolicited.  

Yeah I worked with a guy likes James Ford.  Cheap as could be.  Drove around in some old clunker, would always bring his lunch couldn't spend money on anything and then got laid off.  It took him 9 months to get a job.  This was right after 9/11 when no one was hiring.  He was wiped out.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2014, 01:38:11 pm
I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

I just don't see what business it is of yours to determine whether other people are thrifty or not or EVEN whether being thrifty is a good thing or not...

Its just bad form.

It has nothing to do with the "truth" as you don't really know anything about people on this board and their finances but the bottom line is its just bad form...

Now if someone invites you to analyze or comment on their finances that's an entirely different matter.

Personally I find your attempts to analyze people's finances and parenting decisions to be offensive and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. I get it where it comes from though...clearly some deepseated insecurities make you need to validate yourself with your great choices as opposed to others.... its a truly insecure weak man that only feels good about himself by putting others down.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 01:38:15 pm
I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

I love cheap ethnic food too and I shop at Safeway. I'm sure you criticize your wealthy friends for not cooking their own feijoada like you and your wife.

Why are we having an argument about who is the most frugal?  I don't eat cheap ethnic food though.  I think the one thing you should never scrimp on is the quality of food.  No matter how much money you have if you don't have your health you have nothing.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: sweetcell on June 03, 2014, 01:40:17 pm
I used mine way back when, and it was worth it then. I actually logged into my account recently, and found that my previous transaction hadn't invalidated my certificate. In essence, I could have a second (or maybe even more) certificate at no cost.

you will always be able to go back to the website and print yourself another coupon.  i don't believe that WF's computers are reporting back to the coupon website when a voucher is used.  you'll note there is a "mark this coupon as used" button - the website doesn't know if it's still valid.  if you print up another copy want walk into WF with it, it will come up as "used" at the WF register.

growler fills are stupid expensive at P Street.  the $7 discount on a 32 oz probably makes sense.  since i don't have a 32 and want one, i'll probably cash in on this at some point.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2014, 01:58:58 pm
I like to spend money it is fun.  I like expensive jeans, glasses, shirts, watches, cars.  I like to go to expensive restaurants and order expensive food.  I like staying in 5 star hotels when I am on vacation.    If I wasn't going to spend so much money I could get a job that is fun like being a lifeguard. 

out of curiosity, what expensive jeans do you buy? 

personally i buy one pair of raw denim a year.  i work outdoors about 50% of the time, so when my nice jeans get old, i rotate them to my work jeans rotation.  i'll have a pair of nice denim for 5+ years.  financially it probably works out to be a wash... lower quality jeans i blow through every 6 months or so.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 01:59:25 pm
I actually wasn't putting him down. Just saying that he doesn't seem particularly "thrifty" if he's eating at Le Diplomat and drinking at Churchkey. It's fine if that's where he enjoys going. No judgement against him. Bravo to him for going where he enjoys going. but that's not "thrifty".

And bravo to my friends for eating/drinking as they wish, in a more thrifty manner.

I never said that thrifty was good or bad. Personally, I'd rather be thrifty when it comes to clothing or cars or by living in the burbs instead of the city rather than being thrifty on dining or vacations. I guess that makes me like Yada.

I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

I just don't see what business it is of yours to determine whether other people are thrifty or not or EVEN whether being thrifty is a good thing or not...

Its just bad form.

It has nothing to do with the "truth" as you don't really know anything about people on this board and their finances but the bottom line is its just bad form...

Now if someone invites you to analyze or comment on their finances that's an entirely different matter.

Personally I find your attempts to analyze people's finances and parenting decisions to be offensive and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. I get it where it comes from though...clearly some deepseated insecurities make you need to validate yourself with your great choices as opposed to others.... its a truly insecure weak man that only feels good about himself by putting others down.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 02:02:32 pm
I like to spend money it is fun.  I like expensive jeans, glasses, shirts, watches, cars.  I like to go to expensive restaurants and order expensive food.  I like staying in 5 star hotels when I am on vacation.    If I wasn't going to spend so much money I could get a job that is fun like being a lifeguard. 

out of curiosity, what expensive jeans do you buy? 

personally i buy one pair of raw denim a year.  i work outdoors about 50% of the time, so when my nice jeans get old, i rotate them to my work jeans rotation.  i'll have a pair of nice denim for 5+ years.  financially it probably works out to be a wash... lower quality jeans i blow through every 6 months or so.

I average a pair of Levis every few years or so and follow the same model of then wearing said jeans for working in the yard, etc.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:04:26 pm
How do y'all feel about spot cleaning your Levis vs. putting them in the washing machine? I'm sure you can guess where I stand.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 02:09:14 pm
How do y'all feel about spot cleaning your Levis vs. putting them in the washing machine? I'm sure you can guess where I stand.

I don't wash my jeans unless I spill something on them or if they smell like a campfire/some other substance.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:10:11 pm
You're so funny.

I probably have $1500 worth of beer in my basement. My daughter went to Europe three times and the Caribbean twice before the age of five (my wife was only working part time from home so it was mostly on my dime). My wife and daughter both have expensive Tae Kwon Do memberships. My wife singlehandedly keeps Whole Foods afloat.

Do you carry any credit card debt from month to month? If you do, that makes you stupid.



I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

what's your goal of being thrifty/frugal, JF? one can be frugal or thrifty for decades, and find themselves in a financial situation where they can start to splurge in certain areas, and continue to be thrifty in others.  i call this "investing in yourself".  sounds like yada has been plenty thrifty in his lifetime if he's allowed the luxuries you speak of, and you maybe should be asking him for advice rather than providing yours unsolicited.  

Yeah I worked with a guy likes James Ford.  Cheap as could be.  Drove around in some old clunker, would always bring his lunch couldn't spend money on anything and then got laid off.  It took him 9 months to get a job.  This was right after 9/11 when no one was hiring.  He was wiped out.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:11:44 pm
I neve wash mine either. See, we have more in common!

Though I'd never wear my nice Levis camping. That's what old jeans are for.


How do y'all feel about spot cleaning your Levis vs. putting them in the washing machine? I'm sure you can guess where I stand.

I don't wash my jeans unless I spill something on them or if they smell like a campfire/some other substance.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:20:22 pm
Please point out where I was giving Yada unsolicited advice. The three of us are probably more on the same page than not.

I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

what's your goal of being thrifty/frugal, JF? one can be frugal or thrifty for decades, and find themselves in a financial situation where they can start to splurge in certain areas, and continue to be thrifty in others.  i call this "investing in yourself".  sounds like yada has been plenty thrifty in his lifetime if he's allowed the luxuries you speak of, and you maybe should be asking him for advice rather than providing yours unsolicited.  
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2014, 02:21:00 pm
I like to spend money it is fun.  I like expensive jeans, glasses, shirts, watches, cars.  I like to go to expensive restaurants and order expensive food.  I like staying in 5 star hotels when I am on vacation.    If I wasn't going to spend so much money I could get a job that is fun like being a lifeguard. 

out of curiosity, what expensive jeans do you buy? 

personally i buy one pair of raw denim a year.  i work outdoors about 50% of the time, so when my nice jeans get old, i rotate them to my work jeans rotation.  i'll have a pair of nice denim for 5+ years.  financially it probably works out to be a wash... lower quality jeans i blow through every 6 months or so.

I average a pair of Levis every few years or so and follow the same model of then wearing said jeans for working in the yard, etc.

i've never found the right model with levi's, and my few explorations into their premium line have left me underwhelmed for the money. i tried to make them work for a few years, and every time i would buy i pair they would never last more than 3 months.  
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 02:21:53 pm
I like to spend money it is fun.  I like expensive jeans, glasses, shirts, watches, cars.  I like to go to expensive restaurants and order expensive food.  I like staying in 5 star hotels when I am on vacation.    If I wasn't going to spend so much money I could get a job that is fun like being a lifeguard. 

out of curiosity, what expensive jeans do you buy? 

personally i buy one pair of raw denim a year.  i work outdoors about 50% of the time, so when my nice jeans get old, i rotate them to my work jeans rotation.  i'll have a pair of nice denim for 5+ years.  financially it probably works out to be a wash... lower quality jeans i blow through every 6 months or so.

I average a pair of Levis every few years or so and follow the same model of then wearing said jeans for working in the yard, etc.

i've never found the right model with levi's, and my few explorations into their premium line have left me underwhelmed for the money. i tried to make them work for a few years, and every time i would buy i pair they would never last more than 3 months.  

you must be hung like walky.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:25:32 pm
Further investigation points to you being right.

I think the cheapest fill they had on 32 oz. when I was there was $15. And it was on something pedestrian.

I used mine way back when, and it was worth it then. I actually logged into my account recently, and found that my previous transaction hadn't invalidated my certificate. In essence, I could have a second (or maybe even more) certificate at no cost.

you will always be able to go back to the website and print yourself another coupon.  i don't believe that WF's computers are reporting back to the coupon website when a voucher is used.  you'll note there is a "mark this coupon as used" button - the website doesn't know if it's still valid.  if you print up another copy want walk into WF with it, it will come up as "used" at the WF register.

growler fills are stupid expensive at P Street.  the $7 discount on a 32 oz probably makes sense.  since i don't have a 32 and want one, i'll probably cash in on this at some point.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:27:03 pm
I never found the right model for Levis until I found the 514 line. Where were they all my life?


I like to spend money it is fun.  I like expensive jeans, glasses, shirts, watches, cars.  I like to go to expensive restaurants and order expensive food.  I like staying in 5 star hotels when I am on vacation.    If I wasn't going to spend so much money I could get a job that is fun like being a lifeguard. 

out of curiosity, what expensive jeans do you buy? 

personally i buy one pair of raw denim a year.  i work outdoors about 50% of the time, so when my nice jeans get old, i rotate them to my work jeans rotation.  i'll have a pair of nice denim for 5+ years.  financially it probably works out to be a wash... lower quality jeans i blow through every 6 months or so.

I average a pair of Levis every few years or so and follow the same model of then wearing said jeans for working in the yard, etc.

i've never found the right model with levi's, and my few explorations into their premium line have left me underwhelmed for the money. i tried to make them work for a few years, and every time i would buy i pair they would never last more than 3 months.  
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 03, 2014, 02:30:01 pm
I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

Really not thrifty in my eyes
they don't value food that tastes good, is nutritious, free from toxic things and doesn't destroy the environment shipping it from Vietnam/Chile
They kinda like beer, but don't really value quality or variety ...or a good backstory
Cutting coupons... I bet that if they did the ROI, it really wouldn't work out for them
1. coupons are usually for crap, processed food....so crap
2. they only usually are only for a few items in the store, where the rest of the items are more...so are you saving money?
3. sometimes you have to go to multiple stores to reap the benefits...so gas and time

In my opinion...they are not thrify.  They are cheap, with poor taste in food and beer (and the environment) and they are really like to waste hours and gas to save a few dollars

so go for it...emulate them
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2014, 02:30:10 pm
Please point out where I was giving Yada unsolicited advice. The three of us are probably more on the same page than not.

I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

what's your goal of being thrifty/frugal, JF? one can be frugal or thrifty for decades, and find themselves in a financial situation where they can start to splurge in certain areas, and continue to be thrifty in others.  i call this "investing in yourself".  sounds like yada has been plenty thrifty in his lifetime if he's allowed the luxuries you speak of, and you maybe should be asking him for advice rather than providing yours unsolicited.  

it's indirect, but it's there.  you're using a different vehicle for your financial preaching here... using a third party for an example of what you think it the correct definition of thrifty.  maybe your six figure friends have six figure jobs because they spent their whole life not being thrifty, and now they have to because they lived outside their means their whole life or had too many kids, etc.. the fault in all of your financial discussion is that nothing is as black as white as you describe it as. correlation does not imply causation, and all that jazz.

edit: also, everything sidehatch said.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 02:34:37 pm

Do you carry any credit card debt from month to month? If you do, that makes you stupid.




I have no credit card debt.  I don't charge credit cards and pay them off at the end of the month either.  I don't spend more than I have in my checking account.  I usually put whatever I have left over into my savings account each pay period.  I have a couple of thousand every two weeks to spend on whatever I want.  Usually I end up with a surplus.  

I pay more than my minimum car payments each month.   I put the max into my 401k.  But if I see something I want to buy I buy it.  Is this some sort of contest?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:34:48 pm
Now who is the one who is being a judgmental prick?  ;)

I never claimed that their lifestyle was better or worse than Yada's. Just that they likely spend far less on food. And for the record, our food spending habits are probably closer to Yada's than to our friends.


I guess sometimes the truth hurts?

If you're eating meals at Le Diplomat and  places of that ilk, you're not a thrifty eater.

A couple we're friends with both make six figure, do all their food shopping at Costco, get all their beer from Sam Adams mix packs, cut coupons out of the Sunday paper, and dine at ethnic restaurants in strip malls. That's eating thrifty.

James Ford you are so annoying when you get on your money management soapbox... just cut it out...nobody likes it...WTF? Who are you to tell people what to do with their money?

Really not thrifty in my eyes
they don't value food that tastes good, is nutritious, free from toxic things and doesn't destroy the environment shipping it from Vietnam/Chile
They kinda like beer, but don't really value quality or variety ...or a good backstory
Cutting coupons... I bet that if they did the ROI, it really wouldn't work out for them
1. coupons are usually for crap, processed food....so crap
2. they only usually are only for a few items in the store, where the rest of the items are more...so are you saving money?
3. sometimes you have to go to multiple stores to reap the benefits...so gas and time

In my opinion...they are not thrify.  They are cheap, with poor taste in food and beer (and the environment) and they are really like to waste hours and gas to save a few dollars

so go for it...emulate them

Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on June 03, 2014, 02:36:53 pm
I believe I've spoken extensively in the past about my dry cleaning of denim.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:37:06 pm
Why do you have car payments? Wouldn't it be better to pay cash for the car and invest the money you pay on the payments in something with a return on investment? I'm asking, not accusing.



Do you carry any credit card debt from month to month? If you do, that makes you stupid.




I have no credit card debt.  I don't charge credit cards and pay them off at the end of the month either.  I don't spend more than I have in my checking account.  I usually put whatever I have left over into my savings account each pay period.  I have a couple of thousand every two weeks to spend on whatever I want.  Usually I end up with a surplus.  

I pay more than my minimum car payments each month.   I put the max into my 401k.  But if I see something I want to buy I buy it.  Is this some sort of contest?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 02:38:19 pm
I like to spend money it is fun.  I like expensive jeans, glasses, shirts, watches, cars.  I like to go to expensive restaurants and order expensive food.  I like staying in 5 star hotels when I am on vacation.    If I wasn't going to spend so much money I could get a job that is fun like being a lifeguard. 

out of curiosity, what expensive jeans do you buy? 

personally i buy one pair of raw denim a year.  i work outdoors about 50% of the time, so when my nice jeans get old, i rotate them to my work jeans rotation.  i'll have a pair of nice denim for 5+ years.  financially it probably works out to be a wash... lower quality jeans i blow through every 6 months or so.

I guess they aren't really that expensive.  80 bucks on average I guess.  But I buy Lucky Brand Jeans.  They seem to hold up better than most jeans. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 02:39:34 pm
Why do you have car payments? Wouldn't it be better to pay cash for the car and invest the money you pay on the payments in something with a return on investment? I'm asking, not accusing.



Do you carry any credit card debt from month to month? If you do, that makes you stupid.




I have no credit card debt.  I don't charge credit cards and pay them off at the end of the month either.  I don't spend more than I have in my checking account.  I usually put whatever I have left over into my savings account each pay period.  I have a couple of thousand every two weeks to spend on whatever I want.  Usually I end up with a surplus.  

I pay more than my minimum car payments each month.   I put the max into my 401k.  But if I see something I want to buy I buy it.  Is this some sort of contest?

I could I guess save up five years for a car but as interest payments are next to nothing on new cars it really doesn't make any sense.  Also you will earn next to nothing putting your money in the bank.  What can you invest in now that will guarantee you a ROI of any substance? 

 Did you pay cash for your house?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 02:40:41 pm
back on topic.

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Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:45:06 pm
I didn't pay cash for my house, but we made as large of a down payment as we could, and pay it off more aggressively than necessary. Which may not be the most financially prudent thing, but getting rid of all debt would make me a happier man.



Why do you have car payments? Wouldn't it be better to pay cash for the car and invest the money you pay on the payments in something with a return on investment? I'm asking, not accusing.



Do you carry any credit card debt from month to month? If you do, that makes you stupid.




I have no credit card debt.  I don't charge credit cards and pay them off at the end of the month either.  I don't spend more than I have in my checking account.  I usually put whatever I have left over into my savings account each pay period.  I have a couple of thousand every two weeks to spend on whatever I want.  Usually I end up with a surplus.  

I pay more than my minimum car payments each month.   I put the max into my 401k.  But if I see something I want to buy I buy it.  Is this some sort of contest?

I could I guess save up five years for a car but as interest payments are next to nothing on new cars it really doesn't make any sense.  Also you will earn next to nothing putting your money in the bank.  What can you invest in now that will guarantee you a ROI of any substance? 

 Did you pay cash for your house?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 02:49:06 pm
I didn't pay cash for my house, but we made as large of a down payment as we could, and pay it off more aggressively than necessary. Which may not be the most financially prudent thing, but getting rid of all debt would make me a happier man.



Why do you have car payments? Wouldn't it be better to pay cash for the car and invest the money you pay on the payments in something with a return on investment? I'm asking, not accusing.



Do you carry any credit card debt from month to month? If you do, that makes you stupid.




I have no credit card debt.  I don't charge credit cards and pay them off at the end of the month either.  I don't spend more than I have in my checking account.  I usually put whatever I have left over into my savings account each pay period.  I have a couple of thousand every two weeks to spend on whatever I want.  Usually I end up with a surplus.  

I pay more than my minimum car payments each month.   I put the max into my 401k.  But if I see something I want to buy I buy it.  Is this some sort of contest?

I could I guess save up five years for a car but as interest payments are next to nothing on new cars it really doesn't make any sense.  Also you will earn next to nothing putting your money in the bank.  What can you invest in now that will guarantee you a ROI of any substance? 

 Did you pay cash for your house?

So you can retire early?  Well if you use those two egg mcmuffins for 3 bucks every day you could save quite a bit of money. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 02:54:33 pm
I didn't pay cash for my house, but we made as large of a down payment as we could, and pay it off more aggressively than necessary. Which may not be the most financially prudent thing, but getting rid of all debt would make me a happier man.



Why do you have car payments? Wouldn't it be better to pay cash for the car and invest the money you pay on the payments in something with a return on investment? I'm asking, not accusing.



Do you carry any credit card debt from month to month? If you do, that makes you stupid.




I have no credit card debt.  I don't charge credit cards and pay them off at the end of the month either.  I don't spend more than I have in my checking account.  I usually put whatever I have left over into my savings account each pay period.  I have a couple of thousand every two weeks to spend on whatever I want.  Usually I end up with a surplus.  

I pay more than my minimum car payments each month.   I put the max into my 401k.  But if I see something I want to buy I buy it.  Is this some sort of contest?

I could I guess save up five years for a car but as interest payments are next to nothing on new cars it really doesn't make any sense.  Also you will earn next to nothing putting your money in the bank.  What can you invest in now that will guarantee you a ROI of any substance? 

 Did you pay cash for your house?

So you can retire early?  Well if you use those two egg mcmuffins for 3 bucks every day you could save quite a bit of money. 

It's hard to win against Jimmy... You say you eat a McD's to save money and then it would turn into a conversation about how bad McD's is and not about it being a fiscally smart move.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:55:15 pm
What do you consider "retiring early"?

My brother just "retired" from his government job at age 44. He's a happy man. I also think he will run out of money if he's not thrifty.

I myself enjoy what I do and never want to retire. I suppose if I had all my debt paid off and had money left over after helping out my daughter and maybe my mom financially, maybe I'd give more to charity.

I didn't pay cash for my house, but we made as large of a down payment as we could, and pay it off more aggressively than necessary. Which may not be the most financially prudent thing, but getting rid of all debt would make me a happier man.



Why do you have car payments? Wouldn't it be better to pay cash for the car and invest the money you pay on the payments in something with a return on investment? I'm asking, not accusing.



Do you carry any credit card debt from month to month? If you do, that makes you stupid.




I have no credit card debt.  I don't charge credit cards and pay them off at the end of the month either.  I don't spend more than I have in my checking account.  I usually put whatever I have left over into my savings account each pay period.  I have a couple of thousand every two weeks to spend on whatever I want.  Usually I end up with a surplus.  

I pay more than my minimum car payments each month.   I put the max into my 401k.  But if I see something I want to buy I buy it.  Is this some sort of contest?

I could I guess save up five years for a car but as interest payments are next to nothing on new cars it really doesn't make any sense.  Also you will earn next to nothing putting your money in the bank.  What can you invest in now that will guarantee you a ROI of any substance? 

 Did you pay cash for your house?

So you can retire early?  Well if you use those two egg mcmuffins for 3 bucks every day you could save quite a bit of money. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on June 03, 2014, 02:57:06 pm
It's really weird that none of you seem to be factoring in your trust funds or accrued interests on your family's charitable trust foundations in this discussion.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:57:26 pm
It would actually cost you more to eat at McDonalds than to cook healthier versions of the same food yourself. And the medical bills...

Sidehatch would tell you that. Or Morgan Spurlock. True story.


Don't any of you read and enjoy Michelle Singletary's columns in the Post?

I didn't pay cash for my house, but we made as large of a down payment as we could, and pay it off more aggressively than necessary. Which may not be the most financially prudent thing, but getting rid of all debt would make me a happier man.



Why do you have car payments? Wouldn't it be better to pay cash for the car and invest the money you pay on the payments in something with a return on investment? I'm asking, not accusing.



Do you carry any credit card debt from month to month? If you do, that makes you stupid.




I have no credit card debt.  I don't charge credit cards and pay them off at the end of the month either.  I don't spend more than I have in my checking account.  I usually put whatever I have left over into my savings account each pay period.  I have a couple of thousand every two weeks to spend on whatever I want.  Usually I end up with a surplus.  

I pay more than my minimum car payments each month.   I put the max into my 401k.  But if I see something I want to buy I buy it.  Is this some sort of contest?

I could I guess save up five years for a car but as interest payments are next to nothing on new cars it really doesn't make any sense.  Also you will earn next to nothing putting your money in the bank.  What can you invest in now that will guarantee you a ROI of any substance? 

 Did you pay cash for your house?

So you can retire early?  Well if you use those two egg mcmuffins for 3 bucks every day you could save quite a bit of money. 

It's hard to win against Jimmy... You say you eat a McD's to save money and then it would turn into a conversation about how bad McD's is and not about it being a fiscally smart move.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 02:58:11 pm
My dad died 18 years ago and my mom lives from one social security check to the next.

It's really weird that none of you seem to be factoring in your trust funds or accrued interests on your family's charitable trust foundations in this discussion.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: ggw on June 03, 2014, 03:00:52 pm
My dad died 18 years ago and my mom lives from one social security check to the next.



And meanwhile you hoard craft beer and go on multiple international vacations.  What a dick.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on June 03, 2014, 03:01:54 pm
My dad died 18 years ago and my mom lives from one social security check to the next.

It's really weird that none of you seem to be factoring in your trust funds or accrued interests on your family's charitable trust foundations in this discussion.
My goodness, sorry to hear that. Why are none of your family's socialite friends holding annual fundraiser balls for your benefit?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 03:03:38 pm
I also took her and paid her way on two international vacations (she had never been out of the country prior to that), and pay 100% of her bill when we go out anywhere. I'd help her out more if I could, but my wife would never allow it. Yes, what a dick I am.

My dad died 18 years ago and my mom lives from one social security check to the next.



And meanwhile you hoard craft beer and go on multiple international vacations.  What a dick.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 03:06:42 pm
I know you're just trying to be funny. My dad was the t first person on either side of my family to graduate college, and my mom was the first person on her side of the family to graduate high school (or so I think). Her dad dropped out of school after grade 2 to work in the cotton fields. No socialite friends when you come from white trash.


My dad died 18 years ago and my mom lives from one social security check to the next.

It's really weird that none of you seem to be factoring in your trust funds or accrued interests on your family's charitable trust foundations in this discussion.
My goodness, sorry to hear that. Why are none of your family's socialite friends holding annual fundraiser balls for your benefit?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on June 03, 2014, 03:07:09 pm
It's really weird that none of you seem to be factoring in your trust funds or accrued interests on your family's charitable trust foundations in this discussion.

I could only wish for one...
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: ggw on June 03, 2014, 03:10:21 pm
So your defense is, "I'm not a dick, I'm just a pansy who ignores his own mother's indigence because my bitch wife tells me to."

I also took her and paid her way on two international vacations (she had never been out of the country prior to that), and pay 100% of her bill when we go out anywhere. I'd help her out more if I could, but my wife would never allow it. Yes, what a dick I am.

My dad died 18 years ago and my mom lives from one social security check to the next.



And meanwhile you hoard craft beer and go on multiple international vacations.  What a dick.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 03:14:07 pm
My mom created her own life by making bad financial decisions, or perhaps more accurately, not making good ones. On her own. My primary job is to provide a good life for my family (meaning my wife and daughter are my family), not dig my mom our of her financial holes. My mom completely understands and agrees with that. She makes enough to get by, as long as she is thrifty.

I'm sure most people on this board take more money from their parents than they give to them.


So your defense is, "I'm not a dick, I'm just a pansy who ignores his own mother's indigence because my bitch wife tells me to."

I also took her and paid her way on two international vacations (she had never been out of the country prior to that), and pay 100% of her bill when we go out anywhere. I'd help her out more if I could, but my wife would never allow it. Yes, what a dick I am.

My dad died 18 years ago and my mom lives from one social security check to the next.



And meanwhile you hoard craft beer and go on multiple international vacations.  What a dick.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2014, 03:19:17 pm
I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: ggw on June 03, 2014, 03:21:16 pm
"Enough to get by" defined as living from welfare check to welfare check?

My mom created her own life by making bad financial decisions, or perhaps more accurately, not making good ones. On her own. My primary job is to provide a good life for my family (meaning my wife and daughter are my family), not dig my mom our of her financial holes. My mom completely understands and agrees with that. She makes enough to get by, as long as she is thrifty.

I'm sure most people on this board take more money from their parents than they give to them.


So your defense is, "I'm not a dick, I'm just a pansy who ignores his own mother's indigence because my bitch wife tells me to."

I also took her and paid her way on two international vacations (she had never been out of the country prior to that), and pay 100% of her bill when we go out anywhere. I'd help her out more if I could, but my wife would never allow it. Yes, what a dick I am.

My dad died 18 years ago and my mom lives from one social security check to the next.



And meanwhile you hoard craft beer and go on multiple international vacations.  What a dick.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 03:22:32 pm
Social Security is not welfare.

"Enough to get by" defined as living from welfare check to welfare check?

My mom created her own life by making bad financial decisions, or perhaps more accurately, not making good ones. On her own. My primary job is to provide a good life for my family (meaning my wife and daughter are my family), not dig my mom our of her financial holes. My mom completely understands and agrees with that. She makes enough to get by, as long as she is thrifty.

I'm sure most people on this board take more money from their parents than they give to them.


So your defense is, "I'm not a dick, I'm just a pansy who ignores his own mother's indigence because my bitch wife tells me to."

I also took her and paid her way on two international vacations (she had never been out of the country prior to that), and pay 100% of her bill when we go out anywhere. I'd help her out more if I could, but my wife would never allow it. Yes, what a dick I am.

My dad died 18 years ago and my mom lives from one social security check to the next.



And meanwhile you hoard craft beer and go on multiple international vacations.  What a dick.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2014, 03:24:12 pm
but let me add so its clear:  it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue while putting down other people's choices...

I think its clear.


Now go fuck yourself. Its free.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 03:26:01 pm
We ate at Rasika for our anniversary. We go to nice places on special occasions. Special occasions are birthdays, Mother's Day, anniversary. Some people regard "Friday night" as a special occasion. That's not thrifty. But if it makes them happy and doesn't sink them into debt, good for them.

Of course rich people don't spend all day on message boards talking about what they picked up at used record fairs or talking about shows. Except maybe Seth, but then that's his job. I never said it was my goal to be rich.

I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 03:27:39 pm
Where did I put down anyone's choices in this thread? I didn't, Goldblum.


but let me add so its clear:  it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue while putting down other people's choices...

I think its clear.


Now go fuck yourself. Its free.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2014, 03:31:15 pm
We ate at Rasika for our anniversary. We go to nice places on special occasions. Special occasions are birthdays, Mother's Day, anniversary. Some people regard "Friday night" as a special occasion. That's not thrifty. But if it makes them happy and doesn't sink them into debt, good for them.

Of course rich people don't spend all day on message boards talking about what they picked up at used record fairs or talking about shows. Except maybe Seth, but then that's his job. I never said it was my goal to be rich.

I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.


dude...for the last time... nobody cares... .the point is I don't consider it rude of you to talk about your own lifestyle choices even if I couldn't give less of a shit. ...but when you start talking about others.. making assumptions...."grading" them on their choices....that's just poor form... and if you don't get it at your age...well, you don't get it and you evidently aren't going to get it... I feel kind of sorry for you actually.

and yes, you are permanently putting down other people's choices based on lack of thriftiness...whether its concerts people go to, restaurants or whatever...i've had you even tell me that i should feel bad for spending money on tickets instead of putting it into a college fund for my kids .. come on now...get the fuck out of here hoser.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 03:33:10 pm
I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.

Yeah what gets me the most is he has this arrogant attitude that what he is doing is so much better than us.   I don't get how he thinks he is so much better than everyone else either.  And this sob story.  

James ,My mom had an 8th grade education and grew up in Nazi Germany.  She came to this country at 28 and couldn't speak English.  My father never gave me or my sister anything and he didn't graduate from college.  No one paid for our college.  No one gave us anything.  

My sister bought a million dollar house in Fairfax City and paid cash. My mom paid cash for her brand new condo.  We owe less than 50k on our house.  Most of us are adults and know how to manage our household.  We don't need your advice James.  If we did we would ask for it.  And if my Mom or my Mother-in-law needed money I would expect my wife or me to give what we wanted to them without the other partner telling us we couldn't.

If you pay off your house let us know.  That is something to be proud of.  Telling us we are wrong and you are right is just annoying as hell.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 03:36:13 pm
So how much are you putting in your two kids college funds, monthly, Hutch? You could really put me in my place by telling me you put $500 in each and still have money left over for expensive concert tickets!

We ate at Rasika for our anniversary. We go to nice places on special occasions. Special occasions are birthdays, Mother's Day, anniversary. Some people regard "Friday night" as a special occasion. That's not thrifty. But if it makes them happy and doesn't sink them into debt, good for them.

Of course rich people don't spend all day on message boards talking about what they picked up at used record fairs or talking about shows. Except maybe Seth, but then that's his job. I never said it was my goal to be rich.

I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.


dude...for the last time... nobody cares... .the point is I don't consider it rude of you to talk about your own lifestyle choices even if I couldn't give less of a shit. ...but when you start talking about others.. making assumptions...."grading" them on their choices....that's just poor form... and if you don't get it at your age...well, you don't get it and you evidently aren't going to get it... I feel kind of sorry for you actually.

and yes, you are permanently putting down other people's choices based on lack of thriftiness...whether its concerts people go to, restaurants or whatever...i've had you even tell me that i should feel bad for spending money on tickets instead of putting it into a college fund for my kids .. come on now...get the fuck out of here hoser.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 03:39:18 pm
So how much are you putting in your two kids college funds, monthly, Hutch? You could really put me in my place by telling me you put $500 in each and still have money left over for expensive concert tickets!

We ate at Rasika for our anniversary. We go to nice places on special occasions. Special occasions are birthdays, Mother's Day, anniversary. Some people regard "Friday night" as a special occasion. That's not thrifty. But if it makes them happy and doesn't sink them into debt, good for them.

Of course rich people don't spend all day on message boards talking about what they picked up at used record fairs or talking about shows. Except maybe Seth, but then that's his job. I never said it was my goal to be rich.

I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.


dude...for the last time... nobody cares... .the point is I don't consider it rude of you to talk about your own lifestyle choices even if I couldn't give less of a shit. ...but when you start talking about others.. making assumptions...."grading" them on their choices....that's just poor form... and if you don't get it at your age...well, you don't get it and you evidently aren't going to get it... I feel kind of sorry for you actually.

and yes, you are permanently putting down other people's choices based on lack of thriftiness...whether its concerts people go to, restaurants or whatever...i've had you even tell me that i should feel bad for spending money on tickets instead of putting it into a college fund for my kids .. come on now...get the fuck out of here hoser.

Why does he have to tell you how much money he is saving for his kids college education?   It is his business. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Relaxer on June 03, 2014, 03:40:37 pm
Everyone in this thread is posting exactly how he should. Just need walkonby to go on and on about sex and we'll be all set.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 03:41:02 pm
He doesn't. But it would be a better and smarter way to put me in my place than simply telling me to go fuck myself.

So how much are you putting in your two kids college funds, monthly, Hutch? You could really put me in my place by telling me you put $500 in each and still have money left over for expensive concert tickets!

We ate at Rasika for our anniversary. We go to nice places on special occasions. Special occasions are birthdays, Mother's Day, anniversary. Some people regard "Friday night" as a special occasion. That's not thrifty. But if it makes them happy and doesn't sink them into debt, good for them.

Of course rich people don't spend all day on message boards talking about what they picked up at used record fairs or talking about shows. Except maybe Seth, but then that's his job. I never said it was my goal to be rich.

I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.


dude...for the last time... nobody cares... .the point is I don't consider it rude of you to talk about your own lifestyle choices even if I couldn't give less of a shit. ...but when you start talking about others.. making assumptions...."grading" them on their choices....that's just poor form... and if you don't get it at your age...well, you don't get it and you evidently aren't going to get it... I feel kind of sorry for you actually.

and yes, you are permanently putting down other people's choices based on lack of thriftiness...whether its concerts people go to, restaurants or whatever...i've had you even tell me that i should feel bad for spending money on tickets instead of putting it into a college fund for my kids .. come on now...get the fuck out of here hoser.

Why does he have to tell you how much money he is saving for his kids college education?   It is his business. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on June 03, 2014, 03:43:30 pm
I think you should both shake hands, put this behind you, and consider purchasing a walk-in humidor together as a good investment project.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 03:44:02 pm
He doesn't. But it would be a better and smarter way to put me in my place than simply telling me to go fuck myself.

So how much are you putting in your two kids college funds, monthly, Hutch? You could really put me in my place by telling me you put $500 in each and still have money left over for expensive concert tickets!

We ate at Rasika for our anniversary. We go to nice places on special occasions. Special occasions are birthdays, Mother's Day, anniversary. Some people regard "Friday night" as a special occasion. That's not thrifty. But if it makes them happy and doesn't sink them into debt, good for them.

Of course rich people don't spend all day on message boards talking about what they picked up at used record fairs or talking about shows. Except maybe Seth, but then that's his job. I never said it was my goal to be rich.

I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.


dude...for the last time... nobody cares... .the point is I don't consider it rude of you to talk about your own lifestyle choices even if I couldn't give less of a shit. ...but when you start talking about others.. making assumptions...."grading" them on their choices....that's just poor form... and if you don't get it at your age...well, you don't get it and you evidently aren't going to get it... I feel kind of sorry for you actually.

and yes, you are permanently putting down other people's choices based on lack of thriftiness...whether its concerts people go to, restaurants or whatever...i've had you even tell me that i should feel bad for spending money on tickets instead of putting it into a college fund for my kids .. come on now...get the fuck out of here hoser.

Why does he have to tell you how much money he is saving for his kids college education?   It is his business. 

It isn't a competition.  I think his response was appropiate.  I don't get why you feel you need to give people financial advice.  When you can afford to buy a new car let us know.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: ggw on June 03, 2014, 03:57:23 pm
I think you should both shake hands, put this behind you, and consider purchasing a walk-in humidor together as a good investment project.

Humidor, sabreage, Burberry...

1996 called.  It wants its cliched luxury hallmarks back.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: stevewizzle on June 03, 2014, 03:59:33 pm
I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.

Yeah what gets me the most is he has this arrogant attitude that what he is doing is so much better than us.   I don't get how he thinks he is so much better than everyone else either.  And this sob story.  

James ,My mom had an 8th grade education and grew up in Nazi Germany.  She came to this country at 28 and couldn't speak English.  My father never gave me or my sister anything and he didn't graduate from college.  No one paid for our college.  No one gave us anything.  

My sister bought a million dollar house in Fairfax City and paid cash. My mom paid cash for her brand new condo.  We owe less than 50k on our house.  Most of us are adults and know how to manage our household.  We don't need your advice James.  If we did we would ask for it.  And if my Mom or my Mother-in-law needed money I would expect my wife or me to give what we wanted to them without the other partner telling us we couldn't.

If you pay off your house let us know.  That is something to be proud of.  Telling us we are wrong and you are right is just annoying as hell.

the atomic story continues to fascinate me.  
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on June 03, 2014, 04:00:20 pm
I think you should both shake hands, put this behind you, and consider purchasing a walk-in humidor together as a good investment project.

Humidor, sabreage, Burberry...

1996 called.  It wants its cliched luxury hallmarks back.
Well, 1996 can try and pry them from my white-knuckled, well-manicured death grip then.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 04:01:44 pm
Trust me. I can afford to buy a new car, with cash. I drive all of 20 miles per week, so seemingly don't need a new car, do I? There, I let you know.

He doesn't. But it would be a better and smarter way to put me in my place than simply telling me to go fuck myself.

So how much are you putting in your two kids college funds, monthly, Hutch? You could really put me in my place by telling me you put $500 in each and still have money left over for expensive concert tickets!

We ate at Rasika for our anniversary. We go to nice places on special occasions. Special occasions are birthdays, Mother's Day, anniversary. Some people regard "Friday night" as a special occasion. That's not thrifty. But if it makes them happy and doesn't sink them into debt, good for them.

Of course rich people don't spend all day on message boards talking about what they picked up at used record fairs or talking about shows. Except maybe Seth, but then that's his job. I never said it was my goal to be rich.

I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.


dude...for the last time... nobody cares... .the point is I don't consider it rude of you to talk about your own lifestyle choices even if I couldn't give less of a shit. ...but when you start talking about others.. making assumptions...."grading" them on their choices....that's just poor form... and if you don't get it at your age...well, you don't get it and you evidently aren't going to get it... I feel kind of sorry for you actually.

and yes, you are permanently putting down other people's choices based on lack of thriftiness...whether its concerts people go to, restaurants or whatever...i've had you even tell me that i should feel bad for spending money on tickets instead of putting it into a college fund for my kids .. come on now...get the fuck out of here hoser.

Why does he have to tell you how much money he is saving for his kids college education?   It is his business. 

It isn't a competition.  I think his response was appropiate.  I don't get why you feel you need to give people financial advice.  When you can afford to buy a new car let us know.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on June 03, 2014, 04:02:08 pm
I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.

Yeah what gets me the most is he has this arrogant attitude that what he is doing is so much better than us.   I don't get how he thinks he is so much better than everyone else either.  And this sob story.  

James ,My mom had an 8th grade education and grew up in Nazi Germany.  She came to this country at 28 and couldn't speak English.  My father never gave me or my sister anything and he didn't graduate from college.  No one paid for our college.  No one gave us anything.  

My sister bought a million dollar house in Fairfax City and paid cash. My mom paid cash for her brand new condo.  We owe less than 50k on our house.  Most of us are adults and know how to manage our household.  We don't need your advice James.  If we did we would ask for it.  And if my Mom or my Mother-in-law needed money I would expect my wife or me to give what we wanted to them without the other partner telling us we couldn't.

If you pay off your house let us know.  That is something to be proud of.  Telling us we are wrong and you are right is just annoying as hell.

the atomic story continues to fascinate me.  
Agreed. Am I the only one wondering if by "came to this country" he means "had a multi-decade layover in South/Central America before inevitably making it into America once the attention died down"?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 04:12:08 pm
Trust me. I can afford to buy a new car, with cash. I drive all of 20 miles per week, so seemingly don't need a new car, do I? There, I let you know.

He doesn't. But it would be a better and smarter way to put me in my place than simply telling me to go fuck myself.

So how much are you putting in your two kids college funds, monthly, Hutch? You could really put me in my place by telling me you put $500 in each and still have money left over for expensive concert tickets!

We ate at Rasika for our anniversary. We go to nice places on special occasions. Special occasions are birthdays, Mother's Day, anniversary. Some people regard "Friday night" as a special occasion. That's not thrifty. But if it makes them happy and doesn't sink them into debt, good for them.

Of course rich people don't spend all day on message boards talking about what they picked up at used record fairs or talking about shows. Except maybe Seth, but then that's his job. I never said it was my goal to be rich.

I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.


dude...for the last time... nobody cares... .the point is I don't consider it rude of you to talk about your own lifestyle choices even if I couldn't give less of a shit. ...but when you start talking about others.. making assumptions...."grading" them on their choices....that's just poor form... and if you don't get it at your age...well, you don't get it and you evidently aren't going to get it... I feel kind of sorry for you actually.

and yes, you are permanently putting down other people's choices based on lack of thriftiness...whether its concerts people go to, restaurants or whatever...i've had you even tell me that i should feel bad for spending money on tickets instead of putting it into a college fund for my kids .. come on now...get the fuck out of here hoser.

Why does he have to tell you how much money he is saving for his kids college education?   It is his business. 

It isn't a competition.  I think his response was appropiate.  I don't get why you feel you need to give people financial advice.  When you can afford to buy a new car let us know.

My total miles on my commute during the weeks is 25 miles.  I walk home if I have to much to drink at happy hour.   And I have a new car.  And when you mean you can pay cash for a new car you mean a Nissan Versa sedan, don't you?  The real question is would your wife let you buy a new car?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 04:16:32 pm
Yes, my wife would let me buy a new car. I have enough money to buy something much nicer than a Nissan Versa. But I count that money as "life insurance" money. Rather than paying money to an insurance company for life insurance.

Why spend money on a car I don't need? It makes no sense.


Trust me. I can afford to buy a new car, with cash. I drive all of 20 miles per week, so seemingly don't need a new car, do I? There, I let you know.

He doesn't. But it would be a better and smarter way to put me in my place than simply telling me to go fuck myself.

So how much are you putting in your two kids college funds, monthly, Hutch? You could really put me in my place by telling me you put $500 in each and still have money left over for expensive concert tickets!

We ate at Rasika for our anniversary. We go to nice places on special occasions. Special occasions are birthdays, Mother's Day, anniversary. Some people regard "Friday night" as a special occasion. That's not thrifty. But if it makes them happy and doesn't sink them into debt, good for them.

Of course rich people don't spend all day on message boards talking about what they picked up at used record fairs or talking about shows. Except maybe Seth, but then that's his job. I never said it was my goal to be rich.

I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.


dude...for the last time... nobody cares... .the point is I don't consider it rude of you to talk about your own lifestyle choices even if I couldn't give less of a shit. ...but when you start talking about others.. making assumptions...."grading" them on their choices....that's just poor form... and if you don't get it at your age...well, you don't get it and you evidently aren't going to get it... I feel kind of sorry for you actually.

and yes, you are permanently putting down other people's choices based on lack of thriftiness...whether its concerts people go to, restaurants or whatever...i've had you even tell me that i should feel bad for spending money on tickets instead of putting it into a college fund for my kids .. come on now...get the fuck out of here hoser.

Why does he have to tell you how much money he is saving for his kids college education?   It is his business. 

It isn't a competition.  I think his response was appropiate.  I don't get why you feel you need to give people financial advice.  When you can afford to buy a new car let us know.

My total miles on my commute during the weeks is 25 miles.  I walk home if I have to much to drink at happy hour.   And I have a new car.  And when you mean you can pay cash for a new car you mean a Nissan Versa sedan, don't you?  The real question is would your wife let you buy a new car?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 04:24:16 pm
Yes, my wife would let me buy a new car. I have enough money to buy something much nicer than a Nissan Versa. But I count that money as "life insurance" money. Rather than paying money to an insurance company for life insurance.

Why spend money on a car I don't need? It makes no sense.


Trust me. I can afford to buy a new car, with cash. I drive all of 20 miles per week, so seemingly don't need a new car, do I? There, I let you know.

He doesn't. But it would be a better and smarter way to put me in my place than simply telling me to go fuck myself.

So how much are you putting in your two kids college funds, monthly, Hutch? You could really put me in my place by telling me you put $500 in each and still have money left over for expensive concert tickets!

We ate at Rasika for our anniversary. We go to nice places on special occasions. Special occasions are birthdays, Mother's Day, anniversary. Some people regard "Friday night" as a special occasion. That's not thrifty. But if it makes them happy and doesn't sink them into debt, good for them.

Of course rich people don't spend all day on message boards talking about what they picked up at used record fairs or talking about shows. Except maybe Seth, but then that's his job. I never said it was my goal to be rich.

I think I speak for the board when I say, James Ford, we don't give a shit about any of your financial decisions or vacations.... again, it merely shows how insecure you are that you permanently trot out your lifestyle choices as some paragon of virtue.

Personally, I think if you spent a bit more time, you know, making money instead of posting on this board maybe you could afford to eat at Le Diplomat once in a while without worrying so much about your kid's college fund or whatever... At the end of the day you're "thrifty" because you really ain't got all that much.... trust me: the well heeled don't sit around on internet boards talking about how much money they can save on a growler or steak at outback.


dude...for the last time... nobody cares... .the point is I don't consider it rude of you to talk about your own lifestyle choices even if I couldn't give less of a shit. ...but when you start talking about others.. making assumptions...."grading" them on their choices....that's just poor form... and if you don't get it at your age...well, you don't get it and you evidently aren't going to get it... I feel kind of sorry for you actually.

and yes, you are permanently putting down other people's choices based on lack of thriftiness...whether its concerts people go to, restaurants or whatever...i've had you even tell me that i should feel bad for spending money on tickets instead of putting it into a college fund for my kids .. come on now...get the fuck out of here hoser.

Why does he have to tell you how much money he is saving for his kids college education?   It is his business. 

It isn't a competition.  I think his response was appropiate.  I don't get why you feel you need to give people financial advice.  When you can afford to buy a new car let us know.

My total miles on my commute during the weeks is 25 miles.  I walk home if I have to much to drink at happy hour.   And I have a new car.  And when you mean you can pay cash for a new car you mean a Nissan Versa sedan, don't you?  The real question is would your wife let you buy a new car?


A new car would be much safer than your current ride. 

Here is my financial  advice to you.  Cash out the 401k.  Buy yourself an Audi R8.  Go to Neiman Marcus and spend like there is no tomorrow.  Don't forget to buy something nice for your mom and then go on an around world the vacation leaving the wife and kid at home.  You only live once.  Why not live it up a bit. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: RatBastard on June 03, 2014, 04:27:46 pm
Jesus Fucking H Christ people.  Six god damn pages of "Am Not - Are Too" over a fucking food coupon thread with only ONE on topic post (thanks Yada for trying).  REALLY?  Speaks volumes indeed...
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2014, 05:16:55 pm
He doesn't. But it would be a better and smarter way to put me in my place than simply telling me to go fuck myself.


No it would not because I don't accept you have any right to know anything about my finances or how I spend money for concerts or not....

the point is its none of your business what other people do with their money or whether they are as cheap as you are;yes cheap people always think they are "thrifty" and "smart" with their money..trust me nobody walks around thinking they're cheap but if you've been around this world a while you know there are cheap people out there.... and for you to constantly make it your business what others do with their money is rude.

like I said..if you don't get it man...you don't get it...

I mean people have to explain their financial decisions to YOU because of exactly WHY? who the fuck are you? My financial advisor? A financial advisor of any sort?

You have a very bad tendency to like to tell others what the right thing to do is- invariably whatever you are doing- without knowing them or their circumstances at all.... when they protest- as I'm doing- you try to bait them into telling you about their finances or what have you...


i'm done with this.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on June 03, 2014, 05:43:26 pm
Ahh, but you make it our business by posting your purchases on a very public forum. Don't want strangers to have thoughts about your personal transactions? Don't post your personal transactions.

He doesn't. But it would be a better and smarter way to put me in my place than simply telling me to go fuck myself.


No it would not because I don't accept you have any right to know anything about my finances or how I spend money for concerts or not....

the point is its none of your business what other people do with their money or whether they are as cheap as you are;yes cheap people always think they are "thrifty" and "smart" with their money..trust me nobody walks around thinking they're cheap but if you've been around this world a while you know there are cheap people out there.... and for you to constantly make it your business what others do with their money is rude.

like I said..if you don't get it man...you don't get it...

I mean people have to explain their financial decisions to YOU because of exactly WHY? who the fuck are you? My financial advisor? A financial advisor of any sort?

You have a very bad tendency to like to tell others what the right thing to do is- invariably whatever you are doing- without knowing them or their circumstances at all.... when they protest- as I'm doing- you try to bait them into telling you about their finances or what have you...


i'm done with this.

Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on June 03, 2014, 05:48:14 pm
Ahh, but you make it our business by posting your purchases on a very public forum. Don't want strangers to have thoughts about your personal transactions? Don't post your personal transactions.

He doesn't. But it would be a better and smarter way to put me in my place than simply telling me to go fuck myself.


No it would not because I don't accept you have any right to know anything about my finances or how I spend money for concerts or not....

the point is its none of your business what other people do with their money or whether they are as cheap as you are;yes cheap people always think they are "thrifty" and "smart" with their money..trust me nobody walks around thinking they're cheap but if you've been around this world a while you know there are cheap people out there.... and for you to constantly make it your business what others do with their money is rude.

like I said..if you don't get it man...you don't get it...

I mean people have to explain their financial decisions to YOU because of exactly WHY? who the fuck are you? My financial advisor? A financial advisor of any sort?

You have a very bad tendency to like to tell others what the right thing to do is- invariably whatever you are doing- without knowing them or their circumstances at all.... when they protest- as I'm doing- you try to bait them into telling you about their finances or what have you...


i'm done with this.

Alternately, only post about them in Just Announced. No one will discuss it at all because killsaly/azag/vas are delicate, delicate flowers who cannot have their gentle, Baltimore-noise-rock-house-show petals ruffled.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 03, 2014, 09:06:28 pm
Everyone in this thread is posting exactly how he should. Just need walkonby to go on and on about sex and we'll be all set.

(http://www.amk.to/images/articles/default/funny-pictures-auto-gif-sex-362920-1382545136.gif)
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: atomic on June 03, 2014, 10:37:24 pm
Jesus Fucking H Christ people.  Six god damn pages of "Am Not - Are Too" over a fucking food coupon thread with only ONE on topic post (thanks Yada for trying).  REALLY?  Speaks volumes indeed...

Healthy restaurants don't offer coupons. 
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: sweetcell on June 03, 2014, 11:51:35 pm
Jesus Fucking H Christ people.  Six god damn pages of "Am Not - Are Too" over a fucking food coupon thread with only ONE on topic post (thanks Yada for trying).  REALLY?  Speaks volumes indeed...

hey! i posted a coupon!  (oh wait, was i the one on topic?)
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 04, 2014, 12:08:51 am
I think you should both shake hands, put this behind you, and consider purchasing a walk-in humidor together as a good investment project.

Humidor, sabreage, Burberry...

1996 called.  It wants its cliched luxury hallmarks back.
oh snap...

BTW...this thread rocks and sucks...such humble beginnings

also, ran across this mug shot of James ...I don't know if we should be poking the bear
(http://thumbs.mugshots.com/gallery/images/2/ec/09/Timothy-James-Ford_mugshot.400x800.jpg)
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: RatBastard on July 18, 2014, 12:45:59 pm
Outback...

(http://bloominbrandscms.blob.core.windows.net/obs-email/140717_SteakCrab_5off2_Coupon.gif)

(http://bloominbrandscms.blob.core.windows.net/obs-email/140717_SteakCrab_4off2_Coupon.gif)
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on July 18, 2014, 01:39:45 pm
I wonder if Julian or Yada will be using those Outback coupons?

Do liberals actually eat at chain restaurants?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 18, 2014, 01:44:03 pm
I wonder if Julian or Yada will be using those Outback coupons?

Do liberals actually eat at chain restaurants?
Im vegetarian so, no, I will not be using that.

I can't speak for all "liberals" but I'd estimate less than 5% of all my restaurant visits are to national chains.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on July 18, 2014, 01:47:47 pm
I wonder if Julian or Yada will be using those Outback coupons?

Do liberals actually eat at chain restaurants?

No... and rarely.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: vansmack on July 18, 2014, 02:03:20 pm
Do liberals actually eat at chain restaurants?

Only when I'm in Orange County and do as the locals do.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on July 18, 2014, 02:30:07 pm
The only chains I can think of that I go to are:

Starbucks (frappuchino sugar fixes)
Ben and Jerry's (once a year on free ice cream day)
Noodles and Company (my daughter makes me)
Papa Johns (my daughter makes me)
Whole Foods (wife is a shareholder)

Please post any coupons for those....
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on July 18, 2014, 02:40:06 pm
The only chains I can think of that I go to are:

Starbucks (frappuchino sugar fixes)
Ben and Jerry's (once a year on free ice cream day)
Noodles and Company (my daughter makes me)
Papa Johns (my daughter makes me)
Whole Foods (wife is a shareholder)

Please post any coupons for those....

Don't you live near Annandale? You should introduce your daughter to the Eden Center!
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on July 18, 2014, 02:46:58 pm
I don't consider whole foods a chain RESTAURANT.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: vansmack on July 18, 2014, 02:58:31 pm
I don't consider whole foods a chain RESTAURANT.

My Whole Foods serves wine and beer along with their food, so I take a different stance.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: RatBastard on July 25, 2014, 09:38:39 pm
I have three coupons good for 20% off the entire bill at TGIFridays.  They are good (one each) for July, August, and September.  I can snail mail them to anyone who wants them.  Each coupon can be used twice.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: RatBastard on July 26, 2014, 11:30:31 am
Genghis Grill (http://www.genghisgrill.com)

(http://genghisgrill.myguestaccount.com/static/m131/cet5182/71f5c2ad.jpg)
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: RatBastard on August 19, 2014, 07:00:38 pm
(http://media.longhornsteakhouse.com/images/site/coupon/20140819/4_Off_2_ADE-67.jpg)
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on September 06, 2014, 01:56:27 pm
Does korn work for this thread?

http://www.groupon.com/deals/gl-slipknot-with-special-guest-korn-5?p=1&utm_source=channel_occasions_Merchandising-deals&utm_medium=email&sid=a2c5022a-520f-40ba-8b76-8bf5435d31d9&division=washington-dc&user=4aee2bf068e8e440d470151633d1e15e00b44b133b3efb08e19f76011036ce6e&date=20140906&s=body&c=deal_button&d=deal-page&utm_campaign=a2c5022a-520f-40ba-8b76-8bf5435d31d9

Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on September 06, 2014, 03:13:23 pm
so how is the longhorn steakhouse??

Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 07, 2014, 11:04:58 pm
You Do Realize That Just Because One Is Good Don't Mean They All Are Good.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2014, 10:28:00 am
You Do Realize That Just Because One Is Good Don't Mean They All Are Good.
actually that is usually the point of franchises...they all taste/look exactly the same
better living through chemistry
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on September 08, 2014, 01:52:41 pm
for James and Julian.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/07/olive-garden-never-ending-pasta-casual-dining-restaurants/15139803/

Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on September 08, 2014, 02:00:37 pm
That would make the ideal Xmas present for my in-laws.

for James and Julian.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/07/olive-garden-never-ending-pasta-casual-dining-restaurants/15139803/


Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on September 08, 2014, 02:12:35 pm
for James and Julian.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/07/olive-garden-never-ending-pasta-casual-dining-restaurants/15139803/


Why is this relevant to my interests?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on September 08, 2014, 02:26:22 pm
for James and Julian.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/07/olive-garden-never-ending-pasta-casual-dining-restaurants/15139803/


Why is this relevant to my interests?

I thought you loved cheap pasta?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on September 08, 2014, 02:41:18 pm
I thought you loved cheap pasta?
I... enjoy pasta an average amount?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 08, 2014, 03:29:36 pm
You Do Realize That Just Because One Is Good Don't Mean They All Are Good.
actually that is usually the point of franchises...they all taste/look exactly the same
better living through chemistry

so not true.  take 5 guys.  some are the bomb, some suck dongs
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on September 08, 2014, 03:34:25 pm
You Do Realize That Just Because One Is Good Don't Mean They All Are Good.
actually that is usually the point of franchises...they all taste/look exactly the same
better living through chemistry

so not true.  take 5 guys.  some are the bomb, some suck dongs

Huh? They are all the same.. only one difference and it depends on whether you get lucky..sometimes the fries are taken out too early and are a bit soggy..sometimes they are nice and crispy

The music is the same, decor is the same, everything is the same...
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on September 08, 2014, 03:43:53 pm
You Do Realize That Just Because One Is Good Don't Mean They All Are Good.
actually that is usually the point of franchises...they all taste/look exactly the same
better living through chemistry

so not true.  take 5 guys.  some are the bomb, some suck dongs

Speaking of dongs... Little known fact, the hot dogs at Five Guys are pretty good.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on September 08, 2014, 03:46:55 pm
Anohter difference: shopping mall Five Guys don't have the peanuts..... I guess cause of potential nut allergy issues...
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on September 08, 2014, 03:55:32 pm
Little know facts: I've never been inside a Five Guys. Or an Olive Garden. Or a Lonestar Steak House.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on September 08, 2014, 03:57:32 pm
Little know facts: I've never been inside a Five Guys. Or an Olive Garden. Or a Lonestar Steak House.
I've been in an Olive Garden, but no on the other two.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2014, 04:03:43 pm
Little know facts: I've never been inside a Five Guys. Or an Olive Garden. Or a Lonestar Steak House.
Well know facts: you really think you are as cool as [insert explicative] and you jump on just about any opportunity to share that with the class
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: James Ford on September 08, 2014, 04:05:13 pm
I'm not sure what you are talking about and why you find the need to personally attack me whenever you get the chance.

I do go to Starbucks weekly. Do I lose the Sidehatch coolness card on that one?

Little know facts: I've never been inside a Five Guys. Or an Olive Garden. Or a Lonestar Steak House.
Well know facts: you really think you are as cool as [insert explicative] and you jump on just about any opportunity to share that with the class
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Yada on September 08, 2014, 04:22:08 pm
I haven't been to an Olive Garden since the 90's.

Never been to the steak place.

I try to eat at Five Guys as often as possible.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Julian, Hyperpop SLUTFUCK on September 08, 2014, 04:30:28 pm
Little know facts: I've never been inside a Five Guys. Or an Olive Garden. Or a Lonestar Steak House.
Well know facts: you really think you are as cool as [insert explicative] and you jump on just about any opportunity to share that with the class
It's cool not to have eaten at Lone Star Steakhouse, 5 Guys Burgers and Fries, and Olive Garden? Who is determining these things?
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on September 08, 2014, 04:41:30 pm
Love Five Guys


I assume everyone knows the first Five Guys was started at the intersection of Glebe and Columbia in Arlington in 1986?

I've always heard the story as a father said to his four sons: I can pay for your college or you can use that money to open up a restaurant with me....
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Insanity-Hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2014, 05:50:39 pm
... and why you find the need to personally attack me whenever you get the chance.
[/quote]
all I can say is you started it  :P
really never forgave you for calling me a bonehead jock or something

but you also constantly go on and say the most judgmental, egotistical and arrogant things on a daily basis.  And I just find it hard not to call you out repeatedly.

But I've decided that I'm the bigger man and will try my darnedest to stop publicly shamming you
it's really become a guilty pleasure and I really should stop, as there are enough people being @$$holes out there


Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on September 08, 2014, 06:24:57 pm

but you also constantly go on and say the most judgmental, egotistical and arrogant things on a daily basis.  And I just find it hard not to call you out repeatedly.



ain't that the truth...
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 08, 2014, 06:50:25 pm
i love to eat out anywhere, anytime, anything.  any,place that serves food, whether fine dining extravaganza or low dining acceptance, such as the source in dc . . . or any number of dennys on a saturday evening at two am.  or pizza by the slice.  god, i love, pizza, by the slice.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 08, 2014, 10:08:48 pm
for James and Julian.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/07/olive-garden-never-ending-pasta-casual-dining-restaurants/15139803/



Olive Garden is about to try a pretty outlandish gimmick to lure folks in the door: pasta up the wazoo.

Well, you know those guys better than I do  ;D
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: RatBastard on November 26, 2014, 08:15:44 pm
Two additional Outback offers...

Now through 12/31/14 15% off your entire check for any member of the military or any veteran.

This Friday 11/28 free bloomin onion by telling your server it is "Bloomin Friday".
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 27, 2014, 11:45:50 pm
This Friday . . . Massive shits, when you tell the toilet you ate at outback.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: shemptiness on November 27, 2014, 11:50:16 pm
This Friday . . . Massive shits, when you tell the toilet you ate at outback.

If you're talking to your toilet you have an entirely different problem.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 27, 2014, 11:54:17 pm
You don't talk to your toilet?  You, are, odd.  Mine has a name and everything. And it likes opera, too.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on March 25, 2016, 08:40:35 am
Kool and the Gang/Bootsy Collins/Morris Day/Doug E. Fresh on groupon $15

Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: hutch on July 19, 2016, 04:38:04 pm
The Original Wailers on Goldstar right now... comp tickets end up costing $8.50 for thursday night at the Howard


Aston Familyman Barrett...
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
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Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: walkie,talkie on January 05, 2017, 03:10:18 pm
Also only valid when you're standing on your left leg with your right eye closed.
Title: Re: Food Coupons/Discount Codes
Post by: Space Freely on May 14, 2019, 04:25:24 pm
 it’s free cone day at Haagen Dasz. I was in the line and some woman in front of me asked me if I could have some money so she could get some food. She then proceeded to instruct the *employee to “put extra ice cream on my cone.”

*Not Henry Rollins or Ian MacKaye