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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Justin Tonation on March 04, 2016, 01:44:59 pm
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I confess I have gained 15 pouinds in the last six years. Craft beer, aging, etc.
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gaining weight is not so bad.. gaining it in the wrong places is...
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I'm at my fattest ever and need to start focusing on losing a few lbs.
Carbs are my downfall.
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BMI mislabels 54 million Americans as 'overweight' or 'obese' study says
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-bmi-does-not-measure-health-20160204-story.html
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BMI is the Sex Panther of health metrics. It's a blunt instrument that's basically correct for most people but way off base for many others. From what I've read, it was meant for population studies, not as a measure of individual health.
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I just want to know what a sex panther is?
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Sex Panther smells like big-foot's dick.
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BMI is the Sex Panther of health metrics. It's a blunt instrument that's basically correct for most people but way off base for many others. From what I've read, it was meant for population studies, not as a measure of individual health.
That is true.
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I just want to know what a sex panther is?
I bet Relaxer knows.
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I genuinely have no idea!
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someone should change their name to "sex panther"
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I've never heard of sex panthers, but maybe they are related...
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1. do you people not know how to use google search?
2. have you not seen Anchorman?
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BTW...it is a great handle
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BMI mislabels 54 million Americans as 'overweight' or 'obese' study says
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-bmi-does-not-measure-health-20160204-story.html
Well there is such a thing called Normal Weight Obesity that the BMI totally misses. A person who is overweight or considered obese could actually have much better blood pressure and cholesterol than someone who is of a normal weight. Another scenario I've heard is how a model can't make it up a flight of stairs without losing her breath and yet a woman who is 5'8" and let's say she's 240 lbs can go up two flights of stairs with no problems. I remember hearing about this on NPR. I think it was All Things Considered.
And not that I want to start a fire storm but this article was thought provoking. http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2015/03/diets_do_not_work_the_thin_evidence_that_losing_weight_makes_you_healthier.html
I yo-yo weight wise. I try very hard to make permanent lifestyle changes, but fear that it's more compulsive dieting than anything else. This article really hit a raw spot for me about how food is a pre-occupation and no matter how much you lose, you're always working on trying to maintain that loss and to keep losing. I'm not going to talk about my actual weight, because I have enough judgement in my own life from myself. Always have and always will have horrific body image issues (thanks to the assholes I grew up with), and will probably live for the rest of my life feeling guilty over eating anything including a fucking *salad. (*okay maybe not over a salad, but it's gotten real close to that, and by salad, I do mean a legit greens, tomato, onion, no bullshit aside from fat free dressing kind of salad).
I love to cook. I love gardening (I can drive you all crazy by posting photos of my seedlings, gardens and crops haha) and going to farmers markets. I am very much about getting a lot of stuff locally, and here in Western Maryland we got lots of farms and award winning goat cheese. I'm pretty awesome with food preservation (I go harvest my own strawberries from a local farm, my mom and I make a low sugar jam with balsamic vinegar, and in the fall, I make all sorts of stuff to can and freeze), and yeah I do enjoy going to a cool restaurant whenever I'm in the city (I avoid chains like the plague). Unfortunately, that doesn't mean I don't have a fucked up relationship with food. I know there's reasons why I do, and trust me, I work hard on this stuff. I'm always terrified over losing control, and yeah I've fallen off the wagon and have paid dearly for it. I try hard not to restrict and have binge behaviors, but it happens and when it does, I try not to get upset. I have a gym membership and am working towards making it a healthy habit via being mindful with my movement. The temptation to go overboard to the point of getting sick is always there.
Mindfulness and moderate in my experience is what's key. And it's a struggle. A struggle worth fighting for, but it makes me sad that my appearance doesn't tell that struggle whatsoever.
And for the record, per doctors and therapists, I don't have an eating disorder. Just disordered eating, which could always turn into the worse case scenario but hopefully that won't happen to me, especially since I see a wonderful psychologist who keeps me in check. She made me really think a few weeks ago when she pointed out that one of her anorexic patients seriously has the thought of "Am I a piece of shit for eating a few apple slices?" Which then made me remark "Is it worth being terrified over 50 calories? I feel like an asshole being terrified about something being 200 calories."
Physically, sure I have asthma and allergies, but it's for the most part well under control. I do have a slight bad knee and back issues - both genetic (I try very hard to make them the reasons why I lose weight), but aside from that I'm in very good physical health. And I'm sure Julian is just dying to know this...so here goes...I'm nowhere near a BMI of 25 even though I'm not fucking huge (Dan Savage said I wasn't huge. I got that on video! And believe me, I work with huge people at my office and if I ever got like that I'd kill myself), so I doubt you'd want to bone me, but please know that I have always had very low bad cholestrol (which is a great thing) and my blood pressure is typically excellent. And shockingly enough to my primary care and ob-gyn practitioners, my blood sugars and A1C are pretty damn good. They're in the basic normal range, not even high normal range.
As for that Dan Savage video, here is the clip...all the way back from 2009 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTKb0k7W6po (We can discuss the video in a thread of it's own haha)
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I'm at my heaviest weight ever, a hair under 160.
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I"m getting close to 160 myself.. but i do have a little bit of belly fat emerging from all the yuengling evidently..
I am considering taking the bike out this year...
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5'8" Fat in youth (200lbs), lost weight towards tail end of high school (roughly 150-155) (eating baked french fries, failing classes, walking for hours at night mindlessly) and kept it off more or less. . . Until I ended up with my current significant other. Over the course of five years (and moving in together) I've "ballooned" to roughly 175-180lbs.
I've generally tried to stay on a minimal carbohydrate diet (though I do fall off. . . I'm in a poly amorous relationship with cake, ice cream and french fries) but really the way I'd kept the majority of my weight off before was being able to take a slight fasting attitude towards necessary meals i.e. I may have eaten 18-24 ounces of steak today, perhaps I can forego with dinner... or that was a lot of beer last night, who really needs breakfast on a Sunday morning; vitamins, fish oil and ibuprofen it is.
It's tough to do this when you significant other is on a hangry jag.
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I,ll just put this here. bought these this morning
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from here
https://www.facebook.com/Strites-Donuts-Hot-and-Fresh-153131891418236/?fref=ts
they, destroy. de,stroy.
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I never understood the appeal of putting your dick in a box but walk,on,by has shown me some light here.
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god . . . to be that donut.
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Don't you work from home...are you going to eat all of those!
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Those look incredible.
I don't weigh myself. Fuck it.
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I work, sometimes from home, but I like to work in my office, as well. I brought these to my office in Winchester, and all the ladies love me. Like a circle of vultures, telling you, how awesome you are. I ate, two, by the way. heaven.
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all the ladies love me. Like a circle of vultures, telling you, how awesome you are.
but weren't they doing that before you brought the fat pills?
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10 years ago I weighed 180 (I'm 6'). Now I weigh 220. Ugh. Office job took its toll, and moving to a city where I can just walk to many bars didn't help. I don't eat that unhealthy, but should probably cut
Out carbs (beer) and get a bit more exercise.
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And haggis, FWIW.
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I have to say that it's easy to fall into the trap of wanting to exercise more but not really getting around to it. I've mostly solved this challenge by scheduling exercise time and then fanatically sticking to it. I block out noon to 1:00 on my weekday Outlook calendar so that A) I know that's the time I have to go bust a move, and B) no dickhead colleagues of mine can schedule a meeting during that time. And when that reminder notice pops up at 11:45, I start winding down what I'm working on because I've convinced myself that "I have to go."
Unless you're one of those weirdos that just loves to exercise (in which case, you don't have a problem with motivation) you can't just hope to exercise when you have time. You have to make the time. Lay down a schedule and stick to it.
Also, if you're just starting with an exercise schedule, or you've been on a break for awhile, begin very modestly. The worst thing you can do is go out for a 5 mile run, split your shins, and then be laid up for the next 6 weeks. Start out with a long walk. Or a mild weights session. Work your way forward one step at a time.
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You also do one of the best things too (I think)
Commute via bike as a part of your exercise regimen
Just got back in the saddle after a long winter and I commute 2 days a week
burn about 3k cals and put 60 miles on cyclometer
and only add a little extra time to my over all commute and come to work energized and in a good mood
but yeah, ya gotta put it on the schedule or it won't happen regularly
I think just getting a 20 min walk in for lunch 4 days a week is a really good start
then after a few weeks up it to 30 and start doing some afterwork
next thing you know, you're burning 2-3k calories a week with out really noticing
and I have a money back guarantee that you will feel better and be in a better mood over all
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Yes Sidehatch, that is a great point that I should've made. If you can (and chances are, you can), bike to work. Not only is it built-in exercise every day, but you save money on gas and parking, your days of sitting in traffic just vanish, and you walk into your office having already accomplished something, which is a really nice feeling.
If your office is 5 miles or less from your house, you should strongly consider it. If it's between 5 and 10 miles, that's a haul but you should still give it some thought. Is there a way to drive halfway and then bike the rest? Bike to your metro station? Get creative.
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if you are lucky to have a 5 mile commute, you probably won't need to wear biking gear and take a shower when you get to work (that adds 15-20 mins to my morning)
unfortunately (and IMO fortunately) I'm a 15 mile ride each way...
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if you are lucky to have a 5 mile commute, you probably won't need to wear biking gear and take a shower when you get to work (that adds 15-20 mins to my morning)
unfortunately (and IMO fortunately) I'm a 15 mile ride each way...
I'm too concerned with getting crushed by a vehicle and the logistics of clothes/showers/etc. to consistently ride a bike to work. I also work remotely most days.
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I will say that I used to be extremely concerned about the sweat issue. However, I've learned that if you shower before you leave, the sweat you produce on your ride is very clean sweat and isn't that stanky. Granted, you have to change from your bike clothes to your work clothes, but that was much easier and hassle-free than I thought it would be before I did it.
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I've learned that if you shower before you leave, the sweat you produce on your ride is very clean sweat and isn't that stanky.
And, coincidentally, your marriage recently dissolved, you say?
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I will say that I used to be extremely concerned about the sweat issue. However, I've learned that if you shower before you leave, the sweat you produce on your ride is very clean sweat and isn't that stanky. Granted, you have to change from your bike clothes to your work clothes, but that was much easier and hassle-free than I thought it would be before I did it.
Pre working from home, I used to go to the gym at work basically ever day and battled the sweats for basically the next multiple hours post work out shower.
I did purchase a vornado for my office which was awesome.
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I've learned that if you shower before you leave, the sweat you produce on your ride is very clean sweat and isn't that stanky.
And, coincidentally, your marriage recent dissolved, you say?
While I applaud your efforts to develop a joke, the logistics of it don't really work. How would me being smelly at work affect my marriage? Please try harder and better luck next time!
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Unless of course the pure musky loverman scent that cascades from my bulging 28.6 BMI body is such that no woman at work can resist me. Then it makes a bit more sense.
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While I applaud your efforts to develop a joke, the logistics of it don't really work. How would me being smelly at work affect my marriage? Please try harder and better luck next time!
Is it your contention that if one hypothetically smells at work that they do not continue to smell when they return home? In essence, that instead of one marinating in their own funk all day that they have a finite amount of stink and they run out?
And this is to say nothing of the fact you are presumably biking back home after work.
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I weighed myself earlier today and I am glad to report I am at 154...
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I weighed myself earlier today and I am glad to report I am at 154...
At what height, and how long ago was your most recent poop?
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All this talk about exercise is well and great, but if you want to lose weight, it's mostly a diet thing. Just felt like throwing that out there.
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All this talk about exercise is well and great, but if you want to lose weight, it's mostly a diet thing. Just felt like throwing that out there.
Do meatball subs from Potbelly fall into that healthy diet?
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Sure, as long as the meatballs are made out of turnips and the bread is actually pressed-together spinach.
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Yes Sidehatch, that is a great point that I should've made. If you can (and chances are, you can), bike to work. Not only is it built-in exercise every day, but you save money on gas and parking, your days of sitting in traffic just vanish, and you walk into your office having already accomplished something, which is a really nice feeling.
If your office is 5 miles or less from your house, you should strongly consider it. If it's between 5 and 10 miles, that's a haul but you should still give it some thought. Is there a way to drive halfway and then bike the rest? Bike to your metro station? Get creative.
Dedicated bike commuter - 4,500 miles last year - did 33 miles this morning before work because trying (and failing) to lose weight. Relaxer is right - exercise is great but its all about diet - in my case not drinking 2-3 high ABV beers every night
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Dedicated bike commuter - 4,500 miles last year
impressive!
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in my case not drinking 2-3 high ABV beers every night
my downfall as well... i just don't see myself giving up tasty, tasty beer.
i guess i'll have to skip dinner from now on.
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in my case not drinking 2-3 high ABV beers every night
my downfall as well... i just don't see myself giving up tasty, tasty beer.
i guess i'll have to skip dinner from now on.
Just do a vigorous hour on the bike for every 2-3 high ABV beers you have
Cycling: Peddling on a stationary bike can burn just as many calories as jogging (398 calories) ? even though you get to sit down while you do it. Dust off your old mountain bike or take a vigorous indoor cycling class, and you?ll incinerate even more calories: Both burn about 483 per hour, depending on your speed and resistance.
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in my case not drinking 2-3 high ABV beers every night
my downfall as well... i just don't see myself giving up tasty, tasty beer.
i guess i'll have to skip dinner from now on.
Just do a vigorous hour on the bike for every 2-3 high ABV beers you have
Cycling: Peddling on a stationary bike can burn just as many calories as jogging (398 calories) ? even though you get to sit down while you do it. Dust off your old mountain bike or take a vigorous indoor cycling class, and you?ll incinerate even more calories: Both burn about 483 per hour, depending on your speed and resistance.
You'll need to do a vigorous two hour bike ride @483 calories per hour to burn 2-3 high abv beers. By high abv, I'm thinking 10+.
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For the longest time, I totally eschewed and even mocked the idea of Spin Classes because I'm a real biker, riding outside where bikers should be riding but lately I've been doing the spin classes that my company's gym offers, and they are great! Riding outside is always going to be the ideal, but I tell you what, 45 minutes of constant cardio and pushing and pedaling is one hell of a workout. I am a sweaty, light-headed mess by the end of it. Plus, we do it on the top floor of our building, which is all glass, so we have a beautiful view of the whole city as the sun goes down.
The real fun comes after the class is over and I then have to bike home.
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in my case not drinking 2-3 high ABV beers every night
my downfall as well... i just don't see myself giving up tasty, tasty beer.
i guess i'll have to skip dinner from now on.
Just do a vigorous hour on the bike for every 2-3 high ABV beers you have
Cycling: Peddling on a stationary bike can burn just as many calories as jogging (398 calories) ? even though you get to sit down while you do it. Dust off your old mountain bike or take a vigorous indoor cycling class, and you?ll incinerate even more calories: Both burn about 483 per hour, depending on your speed and resistance.
You'll need to do a vigorous two hour bike ride @483 calories per hour to burn 2-3 high abv beers. By high abv, I'm thinking 10+.
Not 10+, more like 7/8/9 - your garden variety NE or West Coast IPA/DIPA
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For the longest time, I totally eschewed and even mocked the idea of Spin Classes because I'm a real biker, riding outside where bikers should be riding but lately I've been doing the spin classes that my company's gym offers, and they are great! Riding outside is always going to be the ideal, but I tell you what, 45 minutes of constant cardio and pushing and pedaling is one hell of a workout. I am a sweaty, light-headed mess by the end of it. Plus, we do it on the top floor of our building, which is all glass, so we have a beautiful view of the whole city as the sun goes down.
The real fun comes after the class is over and I then have to bike home.
I did em about 2 years ago - they are kinda fun
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Dedicated bike commuter - 4,500 miles last year
impressive!
Most, but not all, of those miles were commuting - but I also ride on the weekends w friends and do a couple of centuries a year
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For the longest time, I totally eschewed and even mocked the idea of Spin Classes because I'm a real biker, riding outside where bikers should be riding but lately I've been doing the spin classes that my company's gym offers, and they are great! Riding outside is always going to be the ideal, but I tell you what, 45 minutes of constant cardio and pushing and pedaling is one hell of a workout. I am a sweaty, light-headed mess by the end of it. Plus, we do it on the top floor of our building, which is all glass, so we have a beautiful view of the whole city as the sun goes down.
The real fun comes after the class is over and I then have to bike home.
I did em about 2 years ago - they are kinda fun
I go back and forth on these, really depends on the person running the class IMO
they are great in the winter
I've never gone to one of those "spin centers" that only do spin classes
only done mine at a gym
but it's a great workout and I probably ride 3 times harder then when I'm out on the trails
So it really is an effective use of 45 mins
I'd much rather ride for 2-3 hours (not always and option...but since you asked)
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My wife's nephew's wife - a niece-in-law maybe - is a coach. She posted this today.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BDES1Lluy9I/
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Pablo Sandoval has lost the starting job with the Boston Red Sox.
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were we, supposed to be able to click on that and hear and good ole time about someone's opinion, about fat people? its just a picture, and isn't it sad when a photo, just won't do?
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now Julian is looking like letterman
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Walky, that is from a Facebook page I follow called YouTube Snapshots.
https://www.facebook.com/Youtube-Snapshots-446117378860372/
If you search for whatever is on the screen, you can find the video. I didnt look that one up yet, I just though the snapshot was funny.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/12/amy-schumer-plus-size-fat-america/82940894/
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Oh how I wish Julian were here to weigh in on this one. I know there was a thread that was probably more appropriate than this one, but I forget what it was.
In his absence I'll weigh in and say that I don't think it's government's place to ban these ads.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/15/world/europe/london-bans-ads-with-unrealistic-body-images.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
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I think government's job is to control us. it does it very well, and that is part of the reason it exists. in all the things it does, all the things that consume the very life of it as a real thing . . . it controls us; how we eat with regulations, and sleep on things approved for our consumption and have sex based on rules on being safe, and think about who is in charge with games of politics every __ years, and how we survive as a species with all things governments do to plan out the future. deal, with the fact that government is a thing we need, and a thing we need to hate. the, end.
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I also, think, that I am having issues with working out and being healthy and all that. Sometimes, it is tough to maintain the same old day to day you did before and you just want to relax away the efforts of, "I have to work out again?" "I have to drink another one of those damn protein shakes?" I blame the fact that I work too much, and in down times . . . who wants to work out?
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Me! Me!
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Phentermine!!!
But seriously, after years of "ugh. . . I guess a 36 waist is good enough", and a little (about a week, now done of) amphetamine metabolism manipulation, I've finally gotten on track with trying to try.
Keeping it low-carb, attempting to track my diet via phone and pretending that fitness bands are acurate.
It's mildly enjoyable to watch your allotted calories rise and fall as you enter your foodstuffs and the app accounts for steps taken.
Also helps when your significant other is also trying to adopt healthier habits at the same time.
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walkie you can't stuff your face with pig and shotgun six packs of beer and expect to maintain your delicate figure... it just doesn't work that way....
personally i think the exercise route is kind of waste of time.. just don't pack on the carbs/calories in the first place.. once they're on you its very very hard to take them off
sidesquatch can tell you how he has to bike 50 miles a day to take off his home brews...
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sidesquatch can tell you how he has to bike 50 miles a day to take off his home brews...
it's not working sadly
but I eat lots of salads for lunch, so that helps
Also Full fat baby
stay away from low or faux fats
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Also Full fat baby
really? my babies are only about 25% fat...
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Also Full fat baby
really? my babies are only about 25% fat...
RE: butter, yogurt, milk, egg yolks and even ground beef
chicken skin/dark meat are more nutrient dense that skinless breasts (which are tasteless IMO)
(although I love breasts...but I digress)
Real fat is good for you*...but it needs to come from healthy animals (or humanely raised avocados)
as all the toxins are stored in fat
*in moderation...calories still count as Jules would pipe in
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I like pizza fat and hamburger fat. Now, those are some good fats!
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(http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/style/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2016/06/10_Fitbit2.gif) (http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/style/wp/2016/07/05/2016/07/05/the-evolution-of-exercise-in-10-iconic-fitness-trends/)
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pretty much.
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So there's an obese guy at my Giant who rides around at high speed in one of those cripple carts. A couple of times he cut me off and nearly ran me over with the cripple cart. I'm tempted to be snide and tell him to watch where he's going. But what can you do, he's a cripple, and I'm not.
Then one day I see him parking the cripple cart outside. I figure someone is going to pull up and assist him in getting into a car or something. But no. He puts his bag of groceries in the basket of...a bicycle. Then Fatso proceeds to pedal away. He's not even a real cripple. He's just a fat guy being lazy in the store and using a cripple cart and when he gets out of the store...it's like he's a different person, no longer lazy.
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That sounds pretty genius to me, gotta say. Definitely doing that next time I go to the Unsafeway. Might even take a lil nap in Produce.
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I hit 150.... I am balooning...
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here's an incident (http://fox40.com/2016/07/28/no-its-meth-cops-mistook-krispy-kreme-doughnut-crumbs-for-drugs-man-says/) where the MAN is trying to keep fatty down
julian would approve
A Florida man?s love of doughnuts got him arrested, strip-searched and tossed in jail for 10 hours after officers mistook several crumbs of icing for crystal methamphetamine
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I hit 150.... I am balooning...
how's that weight gain going
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everry time I drink a beer I think it ends up in my gut?
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I hit 150.... I am balooning...
how's that weight gain going
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156 the other day...
I am gaining bout 10 pounds a month...
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Intentionally?
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Jaded's whole life has been preparing for this.
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what is the right BMI for somebody who is about 6 "2?
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For Julienne:
https://medium.com/@SaraJBenincasa/why-am-i-so-fat-91564fc3a0c7
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For Julienne:
https://medium.com/@SaraJBenincasa/why-am-i-so-fat-91564fc3a0c7
I got through 3 paragraphs and saw no mention of eating too much or lack of regular exercise but did see "there are a lot of rape jokes on the internet" listed.
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the name, change game, on here is on point.
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It's only worth it if you read the whole thing.
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It's only worth it if you read the whole thing.
Quite a quagmire.
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giggity
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http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/as-boys-get-fatter-parents-worry-one-body-part-is-too-small/?_r=1 (http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/as-boys-get-fatter-parents-worry-one-body-part-is-too-small/?_r=1)
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Donald Trump said he weighed 236 pounds and stands 6' 3" during his Oz interview, per attendees. BMI calculator puts him at 29.5, overweight
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Donald Trump said he weighed 236 pounds and stands 6' 3" during his Oz interview, per attendees. BMI calculator puts him at 29.5, overweight
He's a ham sandwich away from full on obesity (BMI > 30). I also would take Donald Trump's self-reported height with a grain of salt. He totally seems like the small handed guy who would overstate his height by 1-2" without even thinking about it.
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I commented on this over in Post Show Banter, but man, was it lovely seeing a young lady like Julien Baker have her priorities straight. She had to be -- by my best estimate -- 4'10" and maybe 85lbs (if she jumped in a pool wearing jeans and a sweater and then immediately stepped on a scale).
Were I but a decade younger and she not a lesbian. . .
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Donald Trump said he weighed 236 pounds and stands 6' 3" during his Oz interview, per attendees. BMI calculator puts him at 29.5, overweight
He's a ham sandwich away from full on obesity (BMI > 30). I also would take Donald Trump's self-reported height with a grain of salt. He totally seems like the small handed guy who would overstate his height by 1-2" without even thinking about it.
yes.. that was a tweet i just copy pasted without attribution
I agree he is just the type to overstate height....
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I agree he is just the type to overstate height....
*nods*
I'm not saying 100% he's lying about his height just that he definitely IS NOT over 6'3" while he definitely COULD VERY WELL BE less than 6'3".
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Stone Cold is 6' 1"... Trump looks taller than him in this picture...
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gxbAHV6SYmA/hqdefault.jpg)
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Stone Cold is 6' 1"... Trump looks taller than him in this picture...
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gxbAHV6SYmA/hqdefault.jpg)
but Mr. Stone Cold is not standing straight...
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True, but Mr Trump appears to be leaning backwards...
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(http://img.wennermedia.com/article-leads-horizontal/rs-234547-GettyImages-73732828.jpg)
Vince is 6' 2".... Looks close...
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Stone Cold is 6' 1"
Vince is 6' 2"
where are you getting this info? like other (real) athletes, wrestlers have an incentive to lie about their height. so does trump... methinks everyone in your pictures can't be trusted to self-report their heights honestly.
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I'm guessing Trump wears lifts.
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Stone Cold is 6' 1"... Trump looks taller than him in this picture...
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gxbAHV6SYmA/hqdefault.jpg)
I'm not sure I believe any "sports" figures stated weights/heights either.
6'11.5" (accoring to his teams roster) Duke star Elton Brand famously showed up at the NBA Combine and was measured as just under 6'9".
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well.. anyways.. he's fat... when was our last fat president? was Bubba fat? if not you'd have to go way back I think....Taft?
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well.. anyways.. he's fat... when was our last fat president? was Bubba fat? if not you'd have to go way back I think....Taft?
Taft was enormous. Bubba had weight issues but they fluctuated so you have to pick a specific Bubba.
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T. Roosevelt followed by Taft may have been the darkest 12 year span in American weight-related history. Everyone forgets Roosevelt was obese as fuck.
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T. Roosevelt followed by Taft may have been the darkest 12 year span in American weight-related history. Everyone forgets Roosevelt was obese as fuck.
I thought Teddy was just pure muscle?
But yes.. dark times...
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I thought Teddy was just pure muscle?
He had 40 pounds of muscle around his waistline then.
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I mean, he's remember as this great sportsman and alpha-male but look at him:
(http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/GTY_theodore_roosevelt_sk_141229.jpg)
He rode on a horse and shot things. Pulling a trigger doesn't burn calories. Roosevelt was the early-1900s version of a fratboy lacrosse player who puts on 60 lbs his first two years out of college but still walks around the rest of his life convinced that his former glories happened earlier that day.
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yes well.. those were different times... I guess he was kind of like Hemingway in some ways... another "athlete" that liked to participate in competitive barstool sitting competitions...
I hate to hold his weight against him as he's one of my favorite presidents.. but I guess I will have to ... just to be fair...I guess I always thought of him as big boned and brawny....more than flabby and obese....
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He rocks those C-bridge pince-nezes tho.
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well.. anyways.. he's fat... when was our last fat president? was Bubba fat? if not you'd have to go way back I think....Taft?
Taft was enormous. Bubba had weight issues but they fluctuated so you have to pick a specific Bubba.
to billy's credit, he jogged. occasionally involved a stop for a big mac, but he was able to lay down a few miles.
trump doesn't exercise, at all (no, golf isn't exercise). in case of an emergency, the secret service would have trouble evacuating him - he'd be huffing and puffing, likely passing out before he makes it to the limo/chopper/bunker/etc.
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Trump says campaigning is his exercise (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295943-trump-says-campaigning-is-his-exercise)
Donald Trump, 69, Sleeps 4 Hours a Night and Doesn't Work Out Because 'Making America Great Again, You Get a Lot of Exercise' (http://www.people.com/article/donald-trump-president-work-out-campaign)
Trump doesn't exercise, and other things we've learned from the Dr. Oz interview (http://www.wptz.com/politics/trump-doesnt-exercise-and-other-things-weve-learned-from-the-dr-oz-interview/41666920)
His main form of exercise is talking a lot, apparently: ?I never thought it, but speaking is almost a form of exercise,? Trump told People. ?It?s very exhilarating. Last night I was in Knoxville for 12,000 people. When you are speaking to 12,000 great people, you don?t feel like eating.?
As for more traditional exercise, Trump golfs. He says while some people might not consider it to be exercise, ?It keeps you away from the refrigerator because you?re out on the course.?
Here?s How The Presidential Candidates Eat, Sleep And Work Out (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/presidential-candidates-food-exercise-sleep_us_56d865dee4b0000de4038dbd)
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Donald Trump said he weighed 236 pounds and stands 6' 3" during his Oz interview, per attendees. BMI calculator puts him at 29.5, overweight
per other sources (see my links above), the weight mentioned during the Oz show was 267 pounds. if we believe 6'3", and 267 is right, BMI = 33.4.
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well.. anyways.. he's fat... when was our last fat president? was Bubba fat? if not you'd have to go way back I think....Taft?
Taft was enormous. Bubba had weight issues but they fluctuated so you have to pick a specific Bubba.
to billy's credit, he jogged. occasionally involved a stop for a big mac, but he was able to lay down a few miles.
trump doesn't exercise, at all (no, golf isn't exercise). in case of an emergency, the secret service would have trouble evacuating him - he'd be huffing and puffing, likely passing out before he makes it to the limo/chopper/bunker/etc.
Golf IS exercise, if you're not using a golf cart. Four miles of walking per day isn't too shabby for a 70 year old.
A golf course averages about 6500 yards. For the sake of math, let's make that 6800. There 1720 yards per mile. That results in 4 miles of straight line walking.
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where are you getting this info? like other (real) athletes, wrestlers have an incentive to lie about their height. so does trump... methinks everyone in your pictures can't be trusted to self-report their heights honestly.
You do not think Stone Cold Steve Austin is 6' 1"? And how is he not an "athlete"? He played football into his college years and was a professional wrestler for a decade...
Definition of athlete: "a person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise"
Just because pro wrestling matches have predetermined endings does not mean the competitors are not athletes...
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where are you getting this info? like other (real) athletes, wrestlers have an incentive to lie about their height. so does trump... methinks everyone in your pictures can't be trusted to self-report their heights honestly.
You do not think Stone Cold Steve Austin is 6' 1"? And how is he not an "athlete"? He played football into his college years and was a professional wrestler for a decade...
Definition of athlete: "a person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise"
Just because pro wrestling matches have predetermined endings does not mean the competitors are not athletes...
competitors in a competition with predetermined endings? more like actors
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/athlete
: a person who is trained in or good at sports, games, or exercises that require physical skill and strength
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/athlete
1. (Athletics (Track & Field)) a person trained to compete in sports or exercises involving physical strength, speed, or endurance
2. a person who has a natural aptitude for physical activities
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Hath Jules listened to this? Thoughts?
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/589/tell-me-im-fat (http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/589/tell-me-im-fat)
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Hath Jules listened to this? Thoughts?
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/589/tell-me-im-fat (http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/589/tell-me-im-fat)
Yes, and I was disgusted. I don't want to go into a full rant but allow me a few bullet points about this:
- Ira says in the opening that the episode is all about this topic and that we will hear from both sides. Fantastic: I look forward to equal time for anti-fat acceptance people on the episode. (SPOILER: not one such person is allowed to speak.)
- The first real segment is with Lindy West telling us how fat shamers are the worst. She is given a one on one interview with Ira and her story is backed with piped in sad violin sounds. When she starts to overcome her feelings of fat shame, triumphant music is played.
- Ira at one point literally says something like "some people say obesity speaks to a lack of self control, like obese people lack willpower to control how much they eat. That thought is just . . . gross." No, Ira, it's absolutely, inarguably true.
- A second segment is with a woman who tried to diet. Having little success, she turns to drug use and surgery. She bemoans the fact that the husband she met while thin might not have liked her fat. She reveals she continues to take speed pills (which she acquires illegally, IIRC) to maintain her weight and wishes she had the confidence to have stayed fat. . . like LINDY WEST, who she calls a hero.
- Third segment is a fat woman talking about how she embraced being fat after reading the inspirational writings of -- guess who! -- LINDY WEST.
- Fourth segment is about Oral Roberts University in the 70s would require overweight students to take physical education classes. Literally this is the closest we come to any discussion of anti-fat acceptance: a program at a religious college 4 decades ago. Don't worry, they make sure to point out, apropos of nothing, that Oral Roberts handled snakes and believed in faith healing multiple times just to reinforce that the idea an overweight person should diet and exercise was the ravings of a loon.
- Final segment: LINDY WEST bonus hour, telling the story of her engagement party. She purrs about how traditionally attractive and fit her husband is and how surprised people are to find out they're married and not brother or sister.
As a long time This American Life listener, I literally unsubscribed the moment I finished the podcast and have never re-subscribed. It was a disgusting shit on the face of journalism. It wasn't an unbiased look at a topic, it was a goddamn shill piece for hambeast infant terrible Lindy West. It hits all the #FatAcceptance talking points: all skinny people are unhappy and likely bordering on a disorder, all fat women are fierce and brave and heroes, and those fat women deserve to date attractive men. (Funny how fat men are never, ever, ever included in this movement ever at any time. I wonder why that is?) Any connection between self-control and weight is dismissed as "gross" and no even worthy of discussion. There is a constant finger pointing at thin people and talking how they have an inappropriate relationship with food, but never the same for an obese person. An hour long recitation of Mein Kamp would be less damaging to society than that hour of propoganda Ira Glass verbally shit on America.
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Though I did not unsubscribe; it was a difficult listen for me as well.
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Though I did not unsubscribe; it was a difficult listen for me as well.
Glad to hear it. It just defied all critical thinking. The sole purpose of every segment was to literally deny everything we know about the relationship of weight and health and to make Lindy West out to the second coming of Martin Luther King, Jr.
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As a long time This American Life listener, I literally unsubscribed the moment I finished the podcast and have never re-subscribed.
one strike in almost 600 episodes, and they're out?
you are listener equivalent of a single-issue voter.
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you are listener equivalent of a single-issue voter.
I will die on this hill, I tell you what.
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Though I did not unsubscribe; it was a difficult listen for me as well.
Glad to hear it. It just defied all critical thinking. The sole purpose of every segment was to literally deny everything we know about the relationship of weight and health and to make Lindy West out to the second coming of Martin Luther King, Jr.
I came away from that episode thinking that I have to work on my bellyfat. I am the worst: skinnyfat.
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so what is the best way to combat belly fat? (please no dumb ass statements bout not drinking beer).. is there an exercise one can do at a gym? or does one have to periodically go in for a vacumm suction?
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so what is the best way to combat belly fat? (please no dumb ass statements bout not drinking beer).. is there an exercise one can do at a gym? or does one have to periodically go in for a vacumm suction?
You're a straight guy. Why would you care? Was Lucinda mocking your obesity?
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so what is the best way to combat belly fat? (please no dumb ass statements bout not drinking beer).. is there an exercise one can do at a gym? or does one have to periodically go in for a vacumm suction?
You're a straight guy. Why would you care? Was Lucinda mocking your obesity?
dude..Lucinda loved me... what a great time that show and after was....
I'm just curious.. I'm always trying to learn.. I have some people I know who have tremendous beer guts....WTF do people do to combat this? Even challenged talked about being "skinny fat"
But its no secret I loathe fat of any sort.. other than that to be found on a juicy steak...
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so what is the best way to combat belly fat? (please no dumb ass statements bout not drinking beer).. is there an exercise one can do at a gym? or does one have to periodically go in for a vacumm suction?
i don't believe you can "target" one area.
your body happens stores most of its fat around the belly (as is the case with most men), so losing weight = belly will shrink most noticeably.
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so what is the best way to combat belly fat? (please no dumb ass statements bout not drinking beer).. is there an exercise one can do at a gym? or does one have to periodically go in for a vacumm suction?
i don't believe you can "target" one area.
your body happens stores most of its fat around the belly (as is the case with most men), so losing weight = belly will shrink most noticeably.
but what if a person is thin?.. its nice to have some extra "reserve" like in case of an accident or something....when I had my accident a few years ago i sure could have used a "reserve"... just why does it have to be around the belly? it should be more evenly distributed is the thing..
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(https://i.imgur.com/9yi6bnI.png)
Can't say that makes a lick of sense to me but then again I'm not a curvy woman so what would I know?
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May*
Just like skinny women may be more intelligent than "curvy" women.
I also tend to lean more towards "curvy" having meat on their bones vs being overweight... Like Beyoncé. She isn't fat or overweight, but she's curvy as hell. I hate that "curvy" has gone into the "BBW" realm.
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If she's "curvy", count me in. I'm 49, therefore less inclined to be picky.
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Your body will adapt to your level of activity and food consumption. This adaptation will change as you age. Someone who eats and exercises a lot may be the same weight as someone else (same sex, height, age) who eats and exercises less. But the more active person will probably have a lower body fat percentage. If that percentage is low enough, they will appear fit and lean, perhaps "ripped".
If you want to reduce your belly fat then you have to increase your activity and/or reduce your consumption. Your body will adjust to your new level of activity and consumption. At some point your body will have made its adjustment. If this new state is unsatisfactory (you've "plateaued") then you have to make further adjustments to your activity/consumption (increase/decrease). Once your body has adjusted to your satisfaction, you then need to either keep up your present level of activity/consumption or make very small adjustments to see how your body responds.
If you want to lose weight you need to use more energy than you consume (more activity and/or less food). It's far better to consume less AND exercise more so that you lose mostly body fat, otherwise you may lose too much muscle as well (which can lead to being "skinny fat": lower weight but same or higher body fat percentage). You can't choose where to lose your fat (unless you elect surgical methods); your arms and legs will "lean out" before the last of your belly fat can disappear.
As for reducing your calorie intake, you can take one or more of a few tacks: Smaller portions of everything, same portions but of lower calorie versions, or cut out something that's caloric but nutritionally inert. Very recently, I completely cut soda from my diet. I was consuming as much as 1,000 calories of it daily (already down 6 pounds in 2 weeks, but I'm exercising more as well). That shit is really insidious. Beer isn't any better. If you drink beer, stick to the high quality stuff that's consumed in small portions (because that shit costs money). Beer bellies are caused by the commercial swill that's intended for high consumption. People drink it to get drunk; some people require several servings to get wasted. By the time they get there, they've consumed 500 calories or more. Then they drink more.
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(http://i.imgur.com/ykDMEuO.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/p7fJwOM.png)
If you want to know why people are fat in this country, look no further than the logic that literally burning <20 calories should be rewarded with eating ~1100 calories.
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I think we've said it all....starting to repeat ourselves
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I leave you with this
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/miss-italy-runner-up-responds-after-being-brutally-body-shamed-105011005.html
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I leave you with this
https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/miss-italy-runner-up-responds-after-being-brutally-body-shamed-105011005.html
I love the hypocrisy of "I am voluntarily entering an outdated, retrogressive competition that assigns worth to women based on others' opinion of their physical appearance and I'm mad as hell that someone has an opinion on my physical appearance."
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trump fat-shamed hackers last night - I DEMAND A HOT TAKE!!!
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trump fat-shamed hackers last night - I DEMAND A HOT TAKE!!!
If you have a problem with someone pointing out you're 400 pounds, don't be 400 pounds.
(https://i.redditmedia.com/JYo4nd5ZWOnPk6N_36Jfh6kvJiCHYzvVESI4JyTiJ3A.jpg?w=297&s=516f44f07ca81ac2e5edca0280832568)
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Aren't metric pounds, like, less than half of American pounds? Or does Trump not do metric?
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trump fat-shamed hackers last night - I DEMAND A HOT TAKE!!!
If you have a problem with someone pointing out you're 400 pounds, don't be 400 pounds.
(https://i.redditmedia.com/JYo4nd5ZWOnPk6N_36Jfh6kvJiCHYzvVESI4JyTiJ3A.jpg?w=297&s=516f44f07ca81ac2e5edca0280832568)
more of a lukewarm take, but i guess i'll take it... certainly can't argue with it.
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Aren't metric pounds, like, less than half of American pounds? Or does Trump not do metric?
Metric pounds are pounds, converted to liters, then expressed as a ratio to kilometers traveled per centisecond.
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/mind boggles/
You forgot to divide by pie.
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trump fat-shamed hackers last night - I DEMAND A HOT TAKE!!!
If you have a problem with someone pointing out you're 400 pounds, don't be 400 pounds.
(https://i.redditmedia.com/JYo4nd5ZWOnPk6N_36Jfh6kvJiCHYzvVESI4JyTiJ3A.jpg?w=297&s=516f44f07ca81ac2e5edca0280832568)
LOL
#:(
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/mind boggles/
You forgot to divide by pie.
"Metric pie" is pi(e) expressed in units of ten.
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alicia machado is gorgeous..
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alicia machado is gorgeous..
"Is" or "was"?
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alicia machado is gorgeous..
"Is" or "was"?
is
I love Venezuelan women....
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alicia machado is gorgeous..
"Is" or "was"?
is
I love Venezuelan women....
This conversation is just now making me remember something from Seinfeld. I'll ttyl.
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Donald Trump has a serious weight problem: He can?t seem to stop criticizing the girth of others. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trumps-weight-problem-he-cant-stop-talking-about-fat-people/2016/09/28/891ddd3a-858d-11e6-a3ef-f35afb41797f_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumpweight-1240am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory)
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I hate to state the obvious but it looks to me like Donald Trump=Julian.
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I hate to state the obvious but it looks to me like Donald Trump=Julian.
Donald Trump is a giant hypocrite because he, himself, is obese.
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I hate to state the obvious but it looks to me like Donald Trump=Julian.
Donald Trump is a giant hypocrite because he, himself, is obese.
According to the article he has to pack on 5 more lbs to qualify.
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I hate to state the obvious but it looks to me like Donald Trump=Julian.
Sadly, the same thought came in to my head when I read the article first thing this morning on the train.
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Just found out yesterday my BMI is 27... Fat ass or not a fat ass?
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Just found out yesterday my BMI is 27... Fat ass or not a fat ass?
Fat ass but not FAT ASS.
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I'll just leave this here:
http://deadspin.com/penn-state-kicker-opens-up-about-eating-disorder-1787366731
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I'll just leave this here:
http://deadspin.com/penn-state-kicker-opens-up-about-eating-disorder-1787366731
Yep. I applaud his refusal to buy into fat logic. He is not enormous because weight is uncontrollable and dieting is make-believe and being morbidly obese is fierce; he is enormous because (by his own admission) he has an inappropriate relationship with food that demands medical attention.
We acknowledge this when it comes to anorexics or bulimics all the time; binge eating is just the opposite side of the same coin but no one wants to act like it despite it leading to hundreds times more deaths than "traditional" eating disorders every year.
Good for you, fat Penn State kicker who cracks me up every year! Good for you.
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I'll just leave this here:
http://deadspin.com/penn-state-kicker-opens-up-about-eating-disorder-1787366731
Yep. I applaud his refusal to buy into fat logic. He is not enormous because weight is uncontrollable and dieting is make-believe and being morbidly obese is fierce; he is enormous because (by his own admission) he has an inappropriate relationship with food that demands medical attention.
We acknowledge this when it comes to anorexics or bulimics all the time; binge eating is just the opposite side of the same coin but no one wants to act like it despite it leading to hundreds times more deaths than "traditional" eating disorders every year.
Good for you, fat Penn State kicker who cracks me up every year! Good for you.
It was quite enjoyable to see him get knocked on his ass this weekend.
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Anybody have a home scale they would recommend?
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I have finally managed for the first time to calculate my BMI.
19.2
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I have finally managed for the first time to calculate my BMI.
19.2
I don't give a rat's ass what my BMI is, but the extra pounds I've packed on in the past three years sure makes hiking Old Rag harder. Maybe it's age too.
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I have finally managed for the first time to calculate my BMI.
19.2
So you're 5'10" 134 lbs?
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When's the last time you actually hiked Old Rag
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When's the last time you actually hiked Old Rag
Yesterday (Thursday).
And I'll also boast that my daughter did it in May, when she was still eight. :)
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I have finally managed for the first time to calculate my BMI.
19.2
So you're 5'10" 134 lbs?
huh? i'm not good at math but i think i could be any number of combinations.. I think I wrote my height and weight earlier on this thread but I don't see how it matters much...
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I have finally managed for the first time to calculate my BMI.
19.2
So you're 5'10" 134 lbs?
huh? i'm not good at math but i think i could be any number of combinations.. I think I wrote my height and weight earlier on this thread but I don't see how it matters much...
Ultimately, it doesn't matter (to me), but as I'm a numbers geek I was just wondering how you got 19.2. I seem to recall you saying your were 5'10". So you'd have to weight 134lbs to get 19.2 on this:
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
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I have finally managed for the first time to calculate my BMI.
19.2
So you're 5'10" 134 lbs?
huh? i'm not good at math but i think i could be any number of combinations.. I think I wrote my height and weight earlier on this thread but I don't see how it matters much...
Ultimately, it doesn't matter (to me), but as I'm a numbers geek I was just wondering how you got 19.2. I seem to recall you saying your were 5'10". So you'd have to weight 134lbs to get 19.2 on this:
http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/educational/lose_wt/BMI/bmicalc.htm
no I never said I was 5 10
I am 6 3 but I don't stand that tall.. I have very bad posture.. my weight is now at 154 or so...
there were decades where I didn't break 140.. hence my concern about "ballooning"
I am an ectomorph.
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Yep, that's your problem.
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last week
230
this week, meaning this morning
205
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Did you lose an arm?
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why yes . . . I did, lose a part of myself.
and that part, weighs a lot.
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last week
230
this week, meaning this morning
205
I have to say you did not look 230 in that picture at the restaurant...
you lost 10% in one week!
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BLo4MADgJHw/
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This is something
https://nypost.com/2022/01/06/mike-pompeos-weight-loss-story-down-90-pounds-in-6-months/
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This is something
https://nypost.com/2022/01/06/mike-pompeos-weight-loss-story-down-90-pounds-in-6-months/
Good for him, but damn he's a really old looking 58.
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He only has another 220 lbs to go.