Even More Crappy Lists From Music Magazines

[markie]

Wasnt love will tear us apart voted the best song ever on some list or other just recently. Its better, in my opinion, than U2's one.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Well, hell if people voted on it, then forgive me, I must be wrong. The Fulks people had me  thinking "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" was the best song ever.

[godsshoeshine]

Originally posted by mankie:
  Each to their own opinion...BUT...of all the great, great bands that tiny little island has produced, anyone who says Radiohead is one of the greatest is absolutely fucking, without question, totally, completely off their heads. You may as well add another flavor of the week up there too...Duran Duran.   :roll:  
 
 I would put Oasis waaaaaay above Radiohead on any list...and I wouldn't put them in the top 50.

i'd put them more as this generations pink floyd.  overly pretentious, yet ambitious, conceptioually interesting and appealing to a rabid fan base.  you either hate them or think they are the best currently popular band.

[markie]

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
 

Originally posted by mankie:
 [qb] i'd put them (Radiohead) more as this generations pink floyd.  overly pretentious, yet ambitious, conceptioually interesting and appealing to a rabid fan base.   [/b]

that comparisson keeps getting made on this board..... I like it in some respects..... But Radiohead dont have a Dark side of the Moon. I dont think they ever will. They are not that good.

[PR_GMR]

posted by mankie
 
 Each to their own opinion...BUT...of all the great, great bands that tiny little island has produced, anyone who says Radiohead is one of the greatest is absolutely fucking, without question, totally, completely off their heads. You may as well add another flavor of the week up there too...Duran Duran.  
 
 I would put Oasis waaaaaay above Radiohead on any list...and I wouldn't put them in the top 50.

That's YOUR OPINION. And if you seriously believe that Oasis, a band who's sole claim to fame has been to set The Beatle's melodic tendencies to fuzzy rock, is better than Radiohead, you don't know as much about rock or modern music as you claim you do, mankie.
 
 mankie, you're extremely opinionated. Good for you. But you need to be able to explain why you feel as you do. Just saying that a band is 'shite' or 'bollocks' ain't good enough.   :cool:

[PR_GMR]

posted by markie
 
 that comparisson keeps getting made on this board..... I like it in some respects..... But Radiohead dont have a Dark side of the Moon. I dont think they ever will. They are not that good.

They did have their 'Dark Side Of The Moon', markie. It's called 'OK Computer'.
 
 And before you return with the argument that 'OK Computer' wasn't on the Billboard list for over ten years, that's not on what I base the statement above. I base on the observation that 'DSOTM' is considered Pink Floyd's critically acclaimed seminal masterpiece just as 'OK Computer' is considered Radiohead's.   :cool:

[markie]

" critically acclaimed seminal masterpiece"
 
 magnus opus?
 
 
 So you have barred me from one way OK computer is inferior.....
 
 How about DSOTM changed the way people viewed albums. It is the first album to work really well as a whole. Plus there were innovative recording techniques (wow it has parallels with Sgt Pepper).
 
 What has Ok computer got to offer in comparison? It was mildly succesful and even know it is becoming forgotten.
 
 DSOTM on the other hand still has tacks featured in films and adverts, despite the fact its not far off 30.

[Celeste]

Originally posted by mankie:
 Then if your smart, attractive, intelligent, gourmet,great head giving wife said it...it must be so.

now you're learnin'

[mankie]

Originally posted by PR_GMR:
   

posted by mankie
 
 Each to their own opinion...BUT...of all the great, great bands that tiny little island has produced, anyone who says Radiohead is one of the greatest is absolutely fucking, without question, totally, completely off their heads. You may as well add another flavor of the week up there too...Duran Duran.  
 
 I would put Oasis waaaaaay above Radiohead on any list...and I wouldn't put them in the top 50.

That's YOUR OPINION. And if you seriously believe that Oasis, a band who's sole claim to fame has been to set The Beatle's melodic tendencies to fuzzy rock, is better than Radiohead, you don't know as much about rock or modern music as you claim you do, mankie.
 
 mankie, you're extremely opinionated. Good for you. But you need to be able to explain why you feel as you do. Just saying that a band is 'shite' or 'bollocks' ain't good enough.    :cool:  [/b]

First of all, I've never claimed to know a lot about rock ro modern music, so I don't know were you got that from, but I'm  still allowed to have my opinions, aren't I?
 
 Not that I feel I owe an explanation for my opinions on such unimportant issues as who is the better band...but I'll give you one anyway.
 
 Both Radiohead and Oasis I've seen live, both were pretty decent live. Both were good for two albums then got boring. Oasis at least played a major role in getting the Brit music scene out of a very extended stale period, like them or not. Radiohead are just another band to come out of that rainy island. In the future Oasis will be remembered and Radiohead wont. (And I don't mean because of the in-band fighting) That's why I rate Oasis over Radiohead.

[PR_GMR]

posted by markie
 
 magnus opus?
 
 
 So you have barred me from one way OK computer is inferior.....
 
 How about DSOTM changed the way people viewed albums. It is the first album to work really well as a whole. Plus there were innovative recording techniques (wow it has parallels with Sgt Pepper).
 
 What has Ok computer got to offer in comparison? It was mildly succesful and even know it is becoming forgotten.
 
 DSOTM on the other hand still has tacks featured in films and adverts, despite the fact its not far off 30.

I've not 'barred' you from posting against 'OKC'... You can go ahead and make your argument; no one's stopping you.
 
 'OKC' also changed the way people viewed rock music at the time it was released. Music critic after critic have argued how the record captures the feeling of malaise of living in the 90s, the apathy which technology and globalization caused in our generation. And the record does work well as a whole in the sense that it's an emotionally disjointed record for an emotionally disjointed generation.
 
 To say that 'OKC' was 'mildly succesful' tells me, markie, that you weren't paying attention when the record came out. I recall the music media and fans tripping over themselves to pay tribute to the record. It was widely considered one of the best records of that year, and, no, it has not been forgotten to this day, on the contrary, Radiohead might never live 'OKC' down, since they've been reminded ever since that their latest offerings don't compare to that record.   :cool:

[markie]

Originally posted by PR_GMR:
 

To say that 'OKC' was 'mildly succesful' tells me, markie, that you weren't paying attention when the record came out. I recall the music media and fans tripping over themselves to pay tribute to the record. It was widely considered one of the best records of that year, and, no, it has not been forgotten to this day, on the contrary, Radiohead might never live 'OKC' down, since they've been reminded ever since that their latest offerings don't compare to that record.    :cool:  [/b]

mildly succesful commercially......
 
 I dont seen to here it anymore, it is no longer part of the zeitgeist. I still hear DSOTM get played in random places.

[ggw]

Originally posted by PR_GMR:
  Music critic after critic have argued how the record captures the feeling of malaise of living in the 90s, the apathy which technology and globalization caused in our generation.

I never realized that I lived in a malaise in the '90s and that technology and globalization had made me apathetic.
 
 Maybe I need to listen to OK Computer more.

[markie]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
 ]I never realized that I lived in a malaise in the '90s and that technology and globalization had made me apathetic.
 
 Maybe I need to listen to OK Computer more.

You have gone to Capua.

[godsshoeshine]

Originally posted by markie:
   

Originally posted by PR_GMR:
 

To say that 'OKC' was 'mildly succesful' tells me, markie, that you weren't paying attention when the record came out. I recall the music media and fans tripping over themselves to pay tribute to the record. It was widely considered one of the best records of that year, and, no, it has not been forgotten to this day, on the contrary, Radiohead might never live 'OKC' down, since they've been reminded ever since that their latest offerings don't compare to that record.     :cool:   [/b]

mildly succesful commercially......
 
 I dont seen to here it anymore, it is no longer part of the zeitgeist. I still hear DSOTM get played in random places. [/b]

its really hard to compare the two albums with regard to shelf life.  okc made this list. i hear dsotm get played after freebird on classic rock stations.  just because floyd has sold their souls more successfully doesn't mean they that okc isn't an important album

[PR_GMR]

posted by mankie
 
 Both Radiohead and Oasis I've seen live, both were pretty decent live. Both were good for two albums then got boring. Oasis at least played a major role in getting the Brit music scene out of a very extended stale period, like them or not. Radiohead are just another band to come out of that rainy island. In the future Oasis will be remembered and Radiohead wont. (And I don't mean because of the in-band fighting) That's why I rate Oasis over Radiohead.

I've also seen both Oasis and Radiohead live. Shows were enjoyable.. but by far, Radiohead puts on the better live show. Oasis did and has gotten boring after a couple of records, but a landslide of voices will not agree with you about Radiohead. Radiohead has kept pushing the envelope, for better or worse, while Oasis has decayed into repetitious fuzzy guitar antics, tired ballads and whiny pale-beatlesque vocals. Unless Oasis push themselves to explore other musical possibilities, they're going to fade away into musical insignificance.
 
 While Oasis did do much to promote Brit music in the early 90s, Radiohead has overtaken them at doing that right now and has overtaken Oasis now for several years. Hell, even Blur has surpassed Oasis in that department.
 
 And why do you refer to your home country as 'that rainy island'? Man, you don't even like where you come from?! At least be proud of your origin.   :p