The 2020 thread....

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^good one.   As a Polish-American, I appreciate someone having our back  
I'm concerned that the MAGA is exhuming the body of Archie Bunker...and he was the king of the polish jokes (related....the Polish ambassador was just assaulted Israel...although the Pols are trying to whitewash their involvement in the Holocaust...so I'm not backing the current administration by any means)

one last thing on going on Fox.  Dems have always had a messaging problem and if they don't go on Fox, they allow Fox to set the message.  I don't think they will net that many voters (but honestly we didn't really need that many), but they can stave off the insanity that fox drums up by putting words in the mouths of the dems and not allowing them to defend things that fox will continually accuse them of.
If you want to be the President of ALL America, you have to go where the people are, not avoid them
Also, going on fox is hard and they are going to get a coordinated attack on everything they stand for and if they come out without totally embarrassing themselves, they will be stronger candidates.
I agree that 95% of the people who voted for trump, will do the same...but if we can reach that 5%...that's the election. 



I have to say, this new immigration policy is actually something I can get behind
yes it doesn't address some of the other issues (the 11mil who are here now, Dreamers, the border)

but you have to start somewhere...So far on first glance, I agree with this
Yikes

What shocks me a little is SMiller was involved and was for sure thinking it was going to be more radical (as I'm sure the base wants)

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I asked my wife what she though about Warren not going on Fox and she said "She should do it. Bernie did it."

Doesn't Warren run the risk of being HRC 2.0 by snubbing "the deplorables?"

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

new rule: if any more Dems announce their candidacy, they have to play "yakety sax" while climbing out of a clown car.

yes that is the proper name of that song...but I think we can all agree that it's the 'Benny Hill Theme song' and give the show/man some props to making this song a part of the cannon of modern music
really is a great background song for any type of mayhem

the wiki on this is a great read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakety_Sax
hit #35 on the UK rock charts in 63!...prior to Benny hill

[hutch]

I asked my wife what she though about Warren not going on Fox and she said "She should do it. Bernie did it."

Doesn't Warren run the risk of being HRC 2.0 by snubbing "the deplorables?"

Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage...

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage...

So you make a good point on this

but I kinda feel like we also need to act a little like we are in the general and not drive so hard to sell to our base, but appeal to those on the outside edge of the base that might consider selecting D in nov 2020
(because everyone is paying attention to the dems even if they are not planning on voting for them)

I think there are a lot of people who have been voting republican against their own interest and just sucked in by the culture war
Maybe if we try to rise above the culture war (HA!) and part of this election should be to gently show them that we are looking out for them

[nkotb]

I couldn't recall if she said this during the primary or general election, so while I was looking up the date, I realized I had completely forgotten that Tim Kaine was her VP lol

I asked my wife what she though about Warren not going on Fox and she said "She should do it. Bernie did it."

Doesn't Warren run the risk of being HRC 2.0 by snubbing "the deplorables?"

Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage...

[hutch]

Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage...

So you make a good point on this

but I kinda feel like we also need to act a little like we are in the general and not drive so hard to sell to our base, but appeal to those on the outside edge of the base that might consider selecting D in nov 2020
(because everyone is paying attention to the dems even if they are not planning on voting for them)

I think there are a lot of people who have been voting republican against their own interest and just sucked in by the culture war
Maybe if we try to rise above the culture war (HA!) and part of this election should be to gently show them that we are looking out for them

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_WUyZXhLHMk

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwaiyjh1dGk

Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage...

So you make a good point on this

but I kinda feel like we also need to act a little like we are in the general and not drive so hard to sell to our base, but appeal to those on the outside edge of the base that might consider selecting D in nov 2020
(because everyone is paying attention to the dems even if they are not planning on voting for them)

I think there are a lot of people who have been voting republican against their own interest and just sucked in by the culture war
Maybe if we try to rise above the culture war (HA!) and part of this election should be to gently show them that we are looking out for them

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_WUyZXhLHMk

[nkotb]

Difference seems pretty clear...

Bernie Sanders Used His Campaign Data To Drive Turnout On Strike Picket Lines

California health care union protests Joe Biden fundraiser

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

“Biden Dirty” needs to become a thing. I don’t know what that thing is — a never-Biden cry by the progressive wing, an urban get-out-The-vote campaign by Biden’s team, something else entire — but someone needs to grab this an run with it.

[sweetcell]

“Biden Dirty” needs to become a thing. I don’t know what that thing is — a never-Biden cry by the progressive wing, an urban get-out-The-vote campaign by Biden’s team, something else entire — but someone needs to grab this an run with it.

"after that scare, my underpants weren't just soiled - they were Biden dirty".

[Justin Tonation]

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

^ that's enough to get my vote

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Ok on the important stuff...who's got the best merch


I like Julian's


I'm not really sure what this is trying to tell potential voters?

Got some good pun'sters at Joe's camp


Sawell is the only one offering shoelaces


Marianne...get a new art director please


Yang really should be using an uncut member as his logo...not sure about what this is about


I like that mayor pete is helping us pronounce his name

Not from his campaign, but I like it


Warren has some interesting merch

this one's a little dark

[nkotb]

Cup 'o JO...like the sound of that