The 2020 thread....

[hutch]

It has the potential to undercut his man of the people narrative when his son is being paid $50k a month to sit on a foreign business board when he potentially may lack the credentials.

this sounds mostly like conservative wishful thinking to me.

forget sins of the father... sins of the son?!?  somehow joe is responsible for hunter's decisions?

The argument is Joe pressures a Ukrainian prosecutor not to investigate company who’s board Hunter sits on


I understand it’s debunked but that’s the argument

[vansmack]

this sounds mostly like conservative wishful thinking to me.

LOL I'm not sure Hunter just "decided" to get a super high paying job he's not qualified for

There's never an egg timer around when you need one....

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what strikes me as disingenuous from the GOP crew is this job description: being paid $50k a month to sit on a foreign business board
Is probably something that they, members of their own family and friends already have and would gladly continue getting

I think Giuliani is going to actually suffer the most damage in all of this
He'll probably get pardoned...or trump will put a hit on him and make it look like the clinton's did it

[nkotb]

Yeah, 100%.  If there's any corruption here, its something literally everyone in Washington has or is doing!

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^you forgot to add...but not bernie!

oh and Tulsi finally joins the dems on the peachy stuff


Lastly ....I like this line of reasoning

@JillFilipovic
Impeachment opponents are filtering this entirely through the lens of Clinton. But surely voters care about WHY a president is impeached. “He lied about a blowjob” is profoundly silly. “He tried to undermine free and fair elections and compromised our national security” is not.

This is good too...Godfather reading of the phone call

@LarryNoble_DC
For those who want a visual abridged summary, here's The Godfather All dialogue is from the memo.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1176980507667652608

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He'll probably get pardoned...or trump will put a hit on him and make it look like the clinton's did it

I see you found the Liddle apostrophe.

[nkotb]

I mean, Bernie wouldn't even endorse his own son during his run for office...but i digress

This is one of those "not remotely a talking point" things that will absolutely work conservatives into a fervor.  Already seeing it on my sister-in-laws Facebook posts.

^you forgot to add...but not bernie

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do we really feel that Biden is going to be unblemished by this Ukraine stuff...and I'm no way implying he did anything wrong
Just seems like even a bigger effort will be afoot to show that Biden did similar stuff with his power as VP
and honestly, if you have that kind of power, it is probably going to be easy to show other examples that look 'shady'


Edit...just saw this..confirming my theory
@NateSilver538
One reason I'd be concerned if I were Biden is that Trump & GOP allies have such terrible arguments in defense of his Ukraine conduct that his least-worst strategy might be to gin up a whole bunch of crazy Biden scandals.


Not that Trump doesn't have a long list already, but been shown not to matter to his base (but lost cause anyway)
I am thinking this time around that the independent voter will now have a record of Trump's actions in government to vote on, where before it was "let's give this outsider a chance"
He's swamp monster #1 and really can't hide that

I do think this unemployment/great economy is somewhat of a ruse to the middle/lower middle class.  As most haven't seen a payraise in a decade and are probably working two jobs with their health care costs doubling in the last decade too
So regardless of the 'great economy' news...most Americans are not having a great one in their home
but we can't use facts is the problem, it's all about emotion


Also, love for Obama is really getting weak...kinda shocking IMO

Warren is going to get the Nom
not really sure on the running mate, but definitely not Biden or Sanders
and she beats trump by a hair...is my 9/30/19 proclamation

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Amy going with the body count tatic
Amy Klobuchar Reveals She Once Killed A Duck While Playing Golf


and the count is increasing..
Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-Texas) announced Monday that he will not seek re-election in 2020, becoming 19th Republican overall  to retire from the House this term.

19 is a lot for a job that has like a 90% incumbency rate

[hutch]

The minute they think Warren is going to be opponent they will do same to her

[Space Freely]

The minute they think Warren is going to be opponent they will do same to her

Do what? Kill her with a golf ball? INF.

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The minute they think Warren is going to be opponent they will do same to her

I do think Space's golf ball threat is a possibility
of course they will
it's to her advantage to have Biden as the Tête de la course so he takes all the attacks for the longest amount of time

I just don't think she has 40+ years of baggage to pick apart
other than she's a democratic socialist (even though she says she's a capitalist)  and don't think that's going to warm the independents up to her

[hutch]

You don’t think he is going to tear her apart on the Native American Indian stuff??

The point is they will make up stuff anyway

Remember Kerry and the swiftboat stuff???

I actually think Trump May be helping Joe by making it clear he sees him as his opponent

It’s up to democrats to wuss out


But who knows what will happen tomorrow much less the next day

[Space Freely]

If you *had* to pick one, who do you guys think would have a better chance of defeating Trump, Sanders or Warren?

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Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.) is resigning due to a insider trading case that he's expected to plead guilty on....the first congressman to endorse President Trump in 2016

So did we just get to 20!