The 2020 thread....

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

^^ Julian, King of the SLAMS

[Space Freely]

Imagine running out of your home in the middle of a lethal pandemic to vote against the Medicare for All program that would guarantee to treat you if you are infected.

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

Imagine running out of your home in the middle of a lethal pandemic to vote against the Medicare for All program that would guarantee to treat you if you are infected.

Oh, Medicare for All is on the ballot? What office is this non-sentient construct running for?

[gavroche]

Biden can’t be that badly off to have wiped the floor with the competition!

I wouldn't say Biden wiped the floor with the competition. He won a single primary (of a State the Dems will never carry in November) before they all gave way. I think it is accurate to say the competition was scared Bernie would win with a plurality and so they stepped aside for Biden.

Whether he is really the strongest candidate we will never know.  He had the most party history and ties and that's what won him the contest.  Obviously, if that is going to be an important criteria we will continue to get old candidates. 

[sweetcell]

He won a single primary (of a State the Dems will never carry in November) before they all gave way.

incorrect.  biden crushed on super tuesday, in multiple states, before the competition started throwing in the towel.

[Space Freely]

He won a single primary (of a State the Dems will never carry in November) before they all gave way.

incorrect.  biden crushed on super tuesday, in multiple states, before the competition started throwing in the towel.

Really? I thought only Bernie, Biden, and Warren (not counting Tulsi) were left once Super Tuesday rolled around.

[sweetcell]

yeah, i think you're right... i'm getting my dates scrambled. 

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

yeah, i think you're right... i'm getting my dates scrambled.

Buttigieg and Klobuchar were definitely both out before Super Tuesday.

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

I also love how this is a point the Bernie  voters harp on. The adults in the party formed a coalition of likeminded voters and accomplished their goal. Meanwhile, the infant-wing of the party posted Snake emojis at Warren supporters and then wondered why she didn’t work with them.

[hutch]

Even after Warren dropped out Sanders could barely crack 30%


It’s hard to make an argument that a Sanders would have made a better candidate based on his performance in IA, NH and NV all very atypical states... one can criticize SC but at least it has a lot of black people

What do the caucuses in IA or NV prove? Or a win in his neighboring NH, a state whose primary hasn’t picked the eventual nominee since 2004?

[Dejecty-hatch lııllı|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl]

He won a single primary (of a State the Dems will never carry in November) before they all gave way.

incorrect.  biden crushed on super tuesday, in multiple states, before the competition started throwing in the towel.

Really? I thought only Bernie, Biden, and Warren (not counting Tulsi) were left once Super Tuesday rolled around.

this always hurts to say, but space is correct
that was the big deal is Pete and Amy dropped out as those votes went almost directly to Biden, had they stayed in, Bernie would have probably won more states (but by way lower than 50% of the vote)
Bloomberg was the big wildcard and could have possibly taken a bunch of Biden votes
Had Bloomy skiped the debates...this might be a different race right now

Joe Biden won Alabama, Arkansas, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia; Bernie Sanders won California, Colorado, Utah, and his home state of Vermont; and Michael Bloomberg won American Samoa. Elizabeth Warren and Tulsi Gabbard failed to win any contest.

[Julian, Bespoke SEXPERT]

Bernie Sanders had four years to build a bigger coalition then he had in 2016. He got less of the vote. He couldn’t make nice with his proverbial next door neighbors (Wang and Warren voters).

Explain to me again how he was going to flip Obama-Trump voters? He couldn’t flip people who were 95% of the way there.

Can we just call a spade a spade and stop this rigged talk and admit he ran a terrible campaign?

[hutch]

Amy was getting 5%!!

You can’t assume it’s static and their supporters wouldn’t have largely migrated to Biden even if they had stayed in

Come on!

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Amy was getting 5%!!

You can’t assume it’s static and their supporters wouldn’t have largely migrated to Biden even if they had stayed in

Come on!

there is no way biden would have taken Minnesota if Amy stayed in!

[hutch]

Ok but that’s one state - her home state- and he would still have broken the 15% threshold and gotten delegates!