Frankensteins monster vs Someone who is not very clever

[ggw]

Bags told me to never trust the Cato institute...
 
 

Originally posted by pollard:
  regarding first term spending
 
  http://www.cato.org/research/articles/rugy-030212.html
 
   

According to Chris Edwards at the Cato Institute, over the first three years of Bush budgeting, non-defense discretionary outlays will rise 18% â?? a number that far exceeds the spending increases during the first three years of the last six administrations. And it pales in comparison to the Ronald Reagan budgets. President Reagan restored America's military during his two terms, boosting defense outlays by 19.2% in the first term and 10.4% in the second. But Reagan also reduced non-defense outlays, cutting domestic spending by 13.5% in the first term and 3.2% in the second. That is real budget discipline.
 
 President Bush is also spending more than Bill Clinton. Clinton actually reduced non-defense outlays in his first term, albeit by only 0.7%. And, for all his flaws, he still signed market-oriented reforms such as NAFTA, farm deregulation, telecommunications deregulation, and financial-services deregulation.
 

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[Bags]

Right, because they have no bias....
 
   

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   Bags told me to never trust the Cato institute...
 
  Clinton actually reduced non-defense outlays in his first term, albeit by only 0.7%. And, for all his flaws, he still signed market-oriented reforms such as NAFTA, farm deregulation, telecommunications deregulation, and financial-services deregulation.
 

[ratioci nation]

trying to find other sources, it just looks like the same person is writing about it for everybody

[Bags]

Alas, ggw, because the numbers are NOT favorable to Bush, I'm tempted to believe the Cato numbers -- and I believe they hated publishing them.  
 
 Similarly, if the Progressive Foundation reported that Kerry voted against 200 important tax cuts for the middle class, I'd believe that as their finding is not supportive of the organization's overall mission.  But, if you have to decide, I'd err on looking for other sources as I believe Cato has a transparent bias.

[Bags]

Anyone see the debate last night?  I missed it, though I hope to catch it and PBS' "Choice 2004" over the weekend on video.

[ggw]

I don't doubt that Bush's spending has been that high.

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by Bags:
  Anyone see the debate last night?  I missed it, though I hope to catch it and PBS' "Choice 2004" over the weekend on video.

it was a lot of the same, i was flipping between baseball and the debate, but from what I saw and what they said afterward there was nothing really surprising
 
 btw, which channel did people watch them on, I found ABC did a really good job, they did not have any spinners on afterward

[eros]

Hilarious

[ggw]

What's up with all these clipboard-toting people asking if I want to talk about John Kerry?
 
 I swear, you can't spit in this city without hitting one.  Believe me, I've tried.

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  What's up with all these clipboard-toting people asking if I want to talk about John Kerry?
 
 I swear, you can't spit in this city without hitting one.  Believe me, I've tried.

they are annoying, it is especially fun when they are very close, like when you walk down connecticut and you get one north of dupont and another south of dupont

[thirsty moore]

PIRG has a bunch too.  I'm not sure what PIRG stands for but from what I understand, they are a clearinghouse of sorts for protest groups.

[kosmo vinyl]

Did anyone see the SwiftVet Leader on Nightline last night?  What a tool...

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by econo:
  PIRG has a bunch too.  I'm not sure what PIRG stands for but from what I understand, they are a clearinghouse of sorts for protest groups.

Public Interest Research Group

[hitman]

I think the Cheney's screaming about Kerry mentioning their lesbian daughter is ridiculous.  If you watched the debate, I really didn't think Kerry was being mean spirited at all.  It wasn't one of those moments where after he said something I was like a little kid yelling "oooooooohhh!"  I don't know if the problem over Kerry outing Mary Cheney or what, because she has already been outed.  It's like the Republicans are trying to spin this into something that it wasn't.  Surprise, surprise!

[kosmo vinyl]

Some funny stuff