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Title: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Shadrach on December 02, 2008, 11:59:08 am
Thoughts?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Sage 703 on December 02, 2008, 12:01:03 pm
I'm impressed with it, but I think that the dark gold text is a bit hard to read on the black background.  Is there a way to adjust that so it pops a little bit more?

Kudos for the upgrade!
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 02, 2008, 12:03:02 pm
I searched on "porky midget", and thankfully the search function doesn't go back that far.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: eros on December 02, 2008, 12:10:07 pm
I always liked seeing the night's set times on the front page (especially for nights like tonight when I am actually going to the show)...am I missing that now?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Shadrach on December 02, 2008, 12:11:25 pm
I searched on "porky midget", and thankfully the search function doesn't go back that far.

My question is about the actual 9:30 site, not the forum. Thanks.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Shadrach on December 02, 2008, 12:12:09 pm
I always liked seeing the night's set times on the front page (especially for nights like tonight when I am actually going to the show)...am I missing that now?

We're working on that right now and that should be fixed in a day or two.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: walkonby on December 02, 2008, 12:17:21 pm
gay.  satan.  lol.  brian.  dupek.  thatguy.  obama.  hot topic.  radiohead.  smashing pumpkins.  the pixies.  the smiths.  wine on your lips.  piss on your head.  post of the day, post of the week.  nkotb like everything ween.  what's playing in ny instead of dc?  five million died today, what songs go with that?  dar sucks, nissan sucks, verizon sucks, merriweather sucks, black cat's ok.  indie this, indie that.  walkonby is a nonstop brat.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: saintangelsin on December 02, 2008, 12:23:56 pm
Change has always been something for me to get used to. Not too sure if I like the new smiley faces for the board. Plus, I miss being able to automatically reply at the bottom of a thread, but I'm sure I'll get over it.

I also agree callat about the dark gold lettering. It's a bit tricky to see.

As for the website,  I like how it looks like the front of the club when I get on the site. But one thing I haven't seen yet are the set times on the front page. I think that's one feature that was always super useful, so my suggestion  is bring that back. If it's already on the site, then please tell me where it is.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Jaguar on December 02, 2008, 12:25:33 pm
I'm impressed with it, but I think that the dark gold text is a bit hard to read on the black background.  Is there a way to adjust that so it pops a little bit more?

Kudos for the upgrade!
I kind of agree about the text color but I think a lot of it depends on the lighting in your room at the time. Could be a bit staining in dimmer light. Certainly beats that old purple on black which was impossible to read! On the old, the orange was ugly as sin but at least it was easy to read.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: walkonby on December 02, 2008, 12:26:32 pm
oooh, oooh, first to be be mean, first to be mean.  someone already mentioned that, helen keller.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Tom Servo on December 02, 2008, 12:29:51 pm
I like the new site and the facade photo design.  Takes a minute to orient to find all the info but it's pretty well laid out.  I like floor paneling on the side to give it the personal touch...all it needs now is some red plastic cups strewn about and some bobbing heads.  
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2008, 12:30:07 pm
visually, the new 930 website is a bit cluttered.  the different fonts and the background images on either side of the screen that don't match the center content's look are the biggest visual annoyances for me.  suggestion: trim down the number of fonts used, and ditch the faux-wood flooring and blue blocks in the margins... go with solid black background.

love the merch section, and the fact that you used staph as models and that they were posed around the club  8)
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 02, 2008, 12:33:51 pm
it would be best to stick with one background for the forum, having a different background the different screens seems a bit over kill
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: walkonby on December 02, 2008, 12:35:03 pm
visually, the new 930 website is a bit cluttered.  the different fonts and the background images on either side of the screen that don't match the center content's look are the biggest visual annoyances for me.  suggestion: trim down the number of fonts used, and ditch the faux-wood flooring and blue blocks in the margins... go with solid black background.

love the merch section, and the fact that you used staph as models and that they were posed around the club  8)

i like how in the one group picture, the girls are like, "look i'm smiling in this mold infested looking basement bar,"  and the guys are like, "i don't smile, because that would be gay . . . in this "who cares what a bar looks like as long as it has booze."
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: saintangelsin on December 02, 2008, 12:38:30 pm
it would be best to stick with one background for the forum, having a different background the different screens seems a bit over kill

I agree! Also, something else I just realized is that all my messages are gone :( Is it possible to get them back?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Jaguar on December 02, 2008, 12:38:39 pm
I like the new site and the facade photo design.  Takes a minute to orient to find all the info but it's pretty well laid out.  I like floor paneling on the side to give it the personal touch...all it needs now is some red plastic cups strewn about and some bobbing heads.  
See, I love the basic design of the panelling of something on the sides but I am not at all thrilled about the wall nor the floor, though they both work very well design wise. In no way do I think it's too cluttered. They are not busy. They are simplistic design elements. My problem is that I just don't want to look at that ugly, dirty wall nor the floor. Think I'd rather see something like the old blue and black stage lights from the old board or something stage oriented once inside. Besides, once I'm in the club, I want to see the stage, not the floor. Maybe even just the screens from a PA system. Very simple, balanced (stage wise) and yet has a simplistic design element that is show oriented instead of gazing at the floor. I might be a Shoegazer but it's not the floor I'm interested in.  8)
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: manimtired on December 02, 2008, 12:54:41 pm
LOL
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Shadrach on December 02, 2008, 01:03:53 pm
it would be best to stick with one background for the forum, having a different background the different screens seems a bit over kill

I agree! Also, something else I just realized is that all my messages are gone :( Is it possible to get them back?

Sorry, no. This was addressed weeks ago with a sticky message at the top of the forum telling everyone that during the migration to the new forum you would lose any private messages and to save anything you wanted to keep.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Shadrach on December 02, 2008, 01:05:12 pm
I like the new site and the facade photo design.  Takes a minute to orient to find all the info but it's pretty well laid out.  I like floor paneling on the side to give it the personal touch...all it needs now is some red plastic cups strewn about and some bobbing heads. 
See, I love the basic design of the panelling of something on the sides but I am not at all thrilled about the wall nor the floor, though they both work very well design wise. In no way do I think it's too cluttered. They are not busy. They are simplistic design elements. My problem is that I just don't want to look at that ugly, dirty wall nor the floor. Think I'd rather see something like the old blue and black stage lights from the old board or something stage oriented once inside. Besides, once I'm in the club, I want to see the stage, not the floor. Maybe even just the screens from a PA system. Very simple, balanced (stage wise) and yet has a simplistic design element that is show oriented instead of gazing at the floor. I might be a Shoegazer but it's not the floor I'm interested in.  8)

You can always adjust your browser window size to get rid of the sides all together.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Jaguar on December 02, 2008, 01:07:19 pm
it would be best to stick with one background for the forum, having a different background the different screens seems a bit over kill

I agree! Also, something else I just realized is that all my messages are gone :( Is it possible to get them back?

Sorry, no. This was addressed weeks ago with a sticky message at the top of the forum telling everyone that during the migration to the new forum you would lose any private messages and to save anything you wanted to keep.
Okay, I totally missed that message. Haven't been around a whole lot but have dropped in of recent and never saw it. Must have been hidden, unintentionally. Probably would have been best addressed with a special notice email to all members (unless they opted out of such things) but that's water under the bridge now.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2008, 01:09:27 pm
You can always adjust your browser window size to get rid of the sides all together.

making the user responsible for the usability of a website, instead of designing it to be more usable... excellent strategy  :P
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Bombay Chutney on December 02, 2008, 01:11:45 pm
Yeah - my PMs are gone, too.  Also - Is there a buddy-list feature?  I don't see it.

oops - i didn't see the sticky before either.  never mind.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Cali on December 02, 2008, 01:15:31 pm
like everything so far except the gold font and side borders -- a bit too crowded. also dont like that anyone can read the posts without logging in.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 02, 2008, 01:17:03 pm
As mentioned in the other thread, there is a buddy list feature for SMF, it's just not enabled at the moment.  Since it was a feature of the old forum, it shouldn't be a problem getting it in place here.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: thatguy on December 02, 2008, 01:30:58 pm
love the merch section, and the fact that you used staph as models and that they were posed around the club  8)

thanks.  i shot those pictures.  well, most of them.  not the ones i'm in, and not a couple left over from the old site.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Jaguar on December 02, 2008, 01:40:04 pm
The Concerts page is great!!! Love that you added a 'more info' feature which details the band/s. Very useful. Pics too!

Any way to store an archieve of shows, even if it's only from here on out? A concert archieve not only helps the fans but also details a history of the club. Certainly something the 9:30 Club has to be proud of.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 02, 2008, 01:54:05 pm
Change has always been something for me to get used to. Not too sure if I like the new smiley faces for the board. Plus, I miss being able to automatically reply at the bottom of a thread, but I'm sure I'll get over it.


There is a quick reply feature like the one available on the old forum.  It can be turned on by going to your Profile Settings.

Profile > Look & Layout > Use quick reply on topic display
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Chip Chanko on December 02, 2008, 02:32:15 pm
To me all the new stuff feels messy and hard to read. I miss everything about the old site except the addition of search (which is good). The way quotes are highlighted feels like overkill, it draws your attention to the quote than to the reply. Also, the color for boxes you can type in is too close to the color of the black/grey background (this is on a PC CRT). I appreciate the effort, though.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Shadrach on December 02, 2008, 03:04:22 pm
You can always adjust your browser window size to get rid of the sides all together.

making the user responsible for the usability of a website, instead of designing it to be more usable... excellent strategy  :P

Sarcasm aside, this isn't a usability issue as much as a visual preference easily changed by the user should they decide.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: RatBastard on December 02, 2008, 03:07:30 pm
Site looks good but whatever the setting is that has the background design rotating nix.  I've seen the brick wall, blue plaid, and wood floor so far (and maybe a solid black.  The black was best then the wood floor.  The blue is horrible!  All in al looks pretty good.  We need time to give it a full spin before any additional constructive comments can be made.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: MonkeyPants on December 02, 2008, 03:41:37 pm
I just think it's a bit slow.  If I go to 930.com, it slows everything down until the page is loaded and it takes much longer to load than the old site.  I am not a techie, so I don't know why that is, but I just know it is way slow for me.  I also agree about the random backgrounds/borders - consistency is better.  Just pick one and stick with it...
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 02, 2008, 03:44:45 pm
I actually just realized the front page was actually the club. Pretty clever.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: MindCage on December 02, 2008, 04:03:14 pm
Can we get sig files that are more than 5 characters long please? :)
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: suede on December 02, 2008, 05:20:56 pm
Did it zero out the member numbers as well?  I was proud of my low number as an old time member (emphasis on old), but it doesnt appear in the profile anymore.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: MindCage on December 02, 2008, 05:36:50 pm
I just think it's a bit slow.  If I go to 930.com, it slows everything down until the page is loaded and it takes much longer to load than the old site.  I am not a techie, so I don't know why that is, but I just know it is way slow for me.  I also agree about the random backgrounds/borders - consistency is better.  Just pick one and stick with it...

I've gotta agree with this. the load time is HORRIBLE  Even after visiting the site, it should read the cached version quick, but it locks up until everything is loaded. That needs to get fixed asap :(
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: chaz on December 02, 2008, 06:04:32 pm
Front page is ok, but the borders along the left hand side of the forum pages, (whether the floor, the bricks or that blue one) are horrendous and just wasting space.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: eltee on December 02, 2008, 06:17:28 pm
Front page is ok, but the borders along the left hand side of the forum pages, (whether the floor, the bricks or that blue one) are horrendous and just wasting space.
Yeah, kinda giving my old eyes a headache when trying to focus on the new but smaller type. Any chance we could have a full screen option? (I did just try and eliminate or select a different border but I didn't see that option.) I need to log off for now, so I'm sorry I don't have time to search if this has been asked - but I had some private messages that I held onto and it didn't transfer over. Is there a way to retrieve them?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2008, 06:21:05 pm
Yeah, kinda giving my old eyes a headache when trying to focus on the new but smaller type.

If you use a PC, hold the control key down, move the scroll wheel on your mouse up.

If you use a Mac, someone else is going to have to help you.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: eltee on December 02, 2008, 06:26:15 pm
Yeah - my PMs are gone, too.  Also - Is there a buddy-list feature?  I don't see it.

oops - i didn't see the sticky before either.  never mind.
Sorry, okay, I see the info I was looking for...I couldn't get online last week b/c of work and when I tried this week, it was locked. Beside, dontcha know that we skip by the main and log into the forum?;)

I could use the icons and type a little larger and less of it. Is it me or is there a lot of text everywheret and it's all very small? lol) I'll see if I can't muck w/ my window size. I appreciate the upgrade, search tool, etc. but the reason I liked the other is the screen was black, text simple and easy to skim over while multi-tasking.;)
And what about a selection to not activate emoticons?;)
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: chaz on December 02, 2008, 06:27:17 pm
Front page is ok, but the borders along the left hand side of the forum pages, (whether the floor, the bricks or that blue one) are horrendous and just wasting space.
Let me revise my statement by saying that the borders on the left and right sides are horrendous.  Plus, shouldn't the nav bar at the top of the forum pages be centered, rather than just randomly jammed all the way to the right?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: eltee on December 02, 2008, 06:28:05 pm
Yeah, kinda giving my old eyes a headache when trying to focus on the new but smaller type.

If you use a PC, hold the control key down, move the scroll wheel on your mouse up.
Lovely. Thank you, smackie. Yes, see, PMs on "how to do 'xyz'" from vansmack are what I previously held onto. ;)
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 02, 2008, 06:30:01 pm
Front page is ok, but the borders along the left hand side of the forum pages, (whether the floor, the bricks or that blue one) are horrendous and just wasting space.
Let me revise my statement by saying that the borders on the left and right sides are horrendous.  Plus, shouldn't the nav bar at the top of the forum pages be centered, rather than just randomly jammed all the way to the right?
Jesus, is it really THAT bad? Buncha silly nannies.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: chaz on December 02, 2008, 06:32:45 pm
Front page is ok, but the borders along the left hand side of the forum pages, (whether the floor, the bricks or that blue one) are horrendous and just wasting space.
Let me revise my statement by saying that the borders on the left and right sides are horrendous.  Plus, shouldn't the nav bar at the top of the forum pages be centered, rather than just randomly jammed all the way to the right?
Jesus, is it really THAT bad? Buncha silly nannies.

He asked what we thought and we're telling him what we think.  Duh.  Haven't you read the thread title?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: sweetcell on December 02, 2008, 06:37:48 pm
Let me revise my statement by saying that the borders on the left and right sides are horrendous.

i'm thinking of starting a facebook group to protest those borders.  they completely clash with the rest of the site.  plain black borders would be SOOOOOOO much easier on the eyes.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 02, 2008, 06:45:45 pm
Front page is ok, but the borders along the left hand side of the forum pages, (whether the floor, the bricks or that blue one) are horrendous and just wasting space.
Let me revise my statement by saying that the borders on the left and right sides are horrendous.  Plus, shouldn't the nav bar at the top of the forum pages be centered, rather than just randomly jammed all the way to the right?
Jesus, is it really THAT bad? Buncha silly nannies.

He asked what we thought and we're telling him what we think.  Duh.  Haven't you read the thread title?
And Im just asking if it's that bad. I don't think they're horrendous.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: chaz on December 02, 2008, 06:45:53 pm
Let me revise my statement by saying that the borders on the left and right sides are horrendous.

i'm thinking of starting a facebook group to protest those borders.  they completely clash with the rest of the site.  plain black borders would be SOOOOOOO much easier on the eyes.
None more black None more black None more black None more black None more black None more black None more black None more black None more black None more black None more black None more black None more black
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: vassego on December 02, 2008, 07:12:05 pm
Let me start with a congrats.  Redesigning sites is hard work, and you never satisfy everyone.  Overall, I think you guys made some cool design decisions (staff in the merch photos = awesome, loving the club photo on the home page, and the forum colors are great - not touching the borders...).

I didn't see anyone mention anything about the listing of shows.  I would love to see a longer list on the home page.  I tried loading /concerts/, but it's been loading for four minutes (not an exaggeration), so perhaps it's there?  That's generally my primary reason for visiting the site, and to see that the list has decreased was disappointing. 

At any rate, congrats.  I'm sure it was a ton of work.  My first reaction was, "Wow, new site.  Awesome!"  So, that's always good.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Got Haggis? on December 02, 2008, 07:28:15 pm
Not a huge fan of SMF.  Vbulletin would have been a much better option.  Also, the layout ("skin") could use some work...
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: vansmack on December 02, 2008, 08:07:35 pm
The Tickets link from the toolbar in the header gives me a 404 Error:

http://www.930.com/tickets/

EDIT: I'm getting 404 errors on every link but the forum, so I'm guessing you guys are working on something....
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: cwsolie on December 02, 2008, 09:56:50 pm
Hmmmmm, I figure you are aware of all this, but just in case......

Tonight's band (sold out or not) should be at the top of the upcoming show list.

Concerts link is broken on front page http://www.930.com/concerts/
Tickets link is broken on fron page http://www.930.com/tickets/
Merch link is broken on front page http://www.930.com/merch/
I get 404 error "Not Found  The requested URL /concerts/ was not found on this server." for all of them.

When you click on the name of a band that isn't at the top of the Upcoming Shows list, it doesn't follow the link it just moves it to the first position in the list.  If you then click on Buy Tix (for that band) it doesn't follow the link, it just jumps back to the top of the list.  Try it, its annoying.

Not a big fan of the sidebars, its like they were added just to insert more graphics.  I would lose them and add a 'club photos' section where you could show off the details of the club.

Having the next two days shows in the little box right above the listing for those same two shows seems redundant, but i do like the rotating band photos (although when you click on them the link is broken).
 
Sorry to be so negative.  I do like the club facade on the front page.

Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 02, 2008, 11:02:07 pm
I just think it's a bit slow.  If I go to 930.com, it slows everything down until the page is loaded and it takes much longer to load than the old site.  I am not a techie, so I don't know why that is, but I just know it is way slow for me.  I also agree about the random backgrounds/borders - consistency is better.  Just pick one and stick with it...

I've gotta agree with this. the load time is HORRIBLE  Even after visiting the site, it should read the cached version quick, but it locks up until everything is loaded. That needs to get fixed asap :(

Same loading issue here as well.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Chip Chanko on December 02, 2008, 11:15:59 pm
Another vote to get ride of the sidebars, whether they be parquet, brick, or tile.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: bull930 on December 03, 2008, 01:40:31 am
I think it is pretty cool!!!!
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Darth Ed on December 03, 2008, 03:38:18 am
Speaking as a professional web developer (going on 14 years now), I have to say I really kind of hate it. Web sites that assume the user's browser window is really wide, quite frankly, suck. As a web developer, I make my web sites fit the width of the user's brower. It's a very simple thing to do, and only poor web designers (IMHO) require the user's web browser to have a certain size. The user should not have to adjust the size of their browser window to visit your web site. This is basic web usability.

Where are the set times on the main site? I'm not seeing the set times. This was the most useful piece of information on the 930.com web site, and I'm not seeing it. It's pretty much the only reason why I visit 930.com at all. I'm hoping it's just because the show is over, and tomorrow's set times haven't been posted yet.

The graphics on the front page are nice.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: eltee on December 03, 2008, 10:31:54 am
The new site is close to the NorVa's, but I think their site is still a little cleaner...(minus a forum, of course)
http://www.thenorva.com/schedule.php
I do think you did a nice overhaul of the site and thanks for all the hard work. I'm especially happy to see the links, info and photos of the bands.
(I half expected little caricatures of the staph to hop around the front image of the club;))
Even w/ "fresh" eyes this morning, I think there is way too much text in the view and to sift through, (in the forum area) and it's too small for me. (I know, I know, I'll make the screen larger!)

I haven't had any load issues - is using Mozilla helping?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: diediemydarling on December 03, 2008, 11:13:58 am
hey el tee. quit posting on the board and show up at shows to hang out. miss you.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: sweetcell on December 03, 2008, 12:08:24 pm
I just think it's a bit slow.  If I go to 930.com, it slows everything down until the page is loaded and it takes much longer to load than the old site.  I am not a techie, so I don't know why that is, but I just know it is way slow for me.  I also agree about the random backgrounds/borders - consistency is better.  Just pick one and stick with it...

I've gotta agree with this. the load time is HORRIBLE  Even after visiting the site, it should read the cached version quick, but it locks up until everything is loaded. That needs to get fixed asap :(

Same loading issue here as well.


part of the issue is that there is a delay in getting a response from google-analytics.com - why are we contacting them?  is this really useful, or can we skip this?  i come to this website to learn about the club and its shows, not to be part of a marketing campaign at my (time) expense.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 03, 2008, 12:16:58 pm
The one thing I don't like, no set times on the main page. What the deal is?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 03, 2008, 12:58:51 pm
Did it zero out the member numbers as well?  I was proud of my low number as an old time member (emphasis on old), but it doesnt appear in the profile anymore.

No worries your profile number of 13 is safe and sound, just don't ask me on how to get it displayed on the forum
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: eltee on December 03, 2008, 01:04:01 pm
hey el tee. quit posting on the board and show up at shows to hang out. miss you.
After I figure out how to manage my PMs, you may see me at Nada Surf.  :-*
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Darth Ed on December 03, 2008, 01:06:35 pm
Goodness knows the forum software was in desperate need of being updated. Being able to search old postings is heavenly. My only complaint about the forum has to do with the quote blocks. Can you do something about the CSS for the quote blocks? The black letters on light gray background used for the quote blocks really clashes with the rest of the content. The eye is drawn to the quote blocks instead of the actual message. If anything, it should be the other way around. I'd recommend getting rid of the background color on the quote blocks entirely. It should just be the same color as the rest of the posting.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 03, 2008, 02:52:40 pm
So how do I delete the old email address that hasn't existed for years associated with my profile? Do I need to have one there at all?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: vansmack on December 03, 2008, 02:58:50 pm
So how do I delete the old email address that hasn't existed for years associated with my profile? Do I need to have one there at all?

I would....

Click Profile

click Account related settings

Repalce the old email address witht he new email address

Click Change Profile at the bottom.

Let me know if that works...
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: 6949 on December 03, 2008, 04:10:48 pm
Is the club getting a colorful makeover too? Plush carpets and retro wallpaper from ikea, blonde highlights for all of the staff, etc.?

the hide email feature doesn't work. I have the box checked but my email still shows up next to my posts.  I can't leave the email field empty.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on December 03, 2008, 04:23:58 pm
Thanks, that worked. Maybe a small complaint that it was hard to see the differing color in the line with the current email address. I just saw the same color and assumed one couldn't change the email.

So how do I delete the old email address that hasn't existed for years associated with my profile? Do I need to have one there at all?

I would....

Click Profile

click Account related settings

Repalce the old email address witht he new email address

Click Change Profile at the bottom.

Let me know if that works...
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: vansmack on December 03, 2008, 05:28:17 pm
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the hide email feature doesn't work. I have the box checked but my email still shows up next to my posts.  I can't leave the email field empty.

Actually, it's working.  Your email address is not visible to me.  Just the PM option.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 03, 2008, 06:28:10 pm
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the hide email feature doesn't work. I have the box checked but my email still shows up next to my posts.  I can't leave the email field empty.



Actually, it's working.  Your email address is not visible to me.  Just the PM option.
yup what he said...  i guess the system doesn't think it needs to hide away your own email address... i doubled checked with my non-admin forum account and the email address is safely hidden away..
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Brad_B on December 04, 2008, 05:15:23 am
New site is awesome.... I'm loving it!!!
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: sweetcell on December 04, 2008, 10:19:34 am
My only complaint about the forum has to do with the quote blocks. Can you do something about the CSS for the quote blocks? The black letters on light gray background used for the quote blocks really clashes with the rest of the content. The eye is drawn to the quote blocks instead of the actual message. If anything, it should be the other way around. I'd recommend getting rid of the background color on the quote blocks entirely. It should just be the same color as the rest of the posting.
my complaint about quotes is the smaller font size.  I liked the fact that on the old bboard, quotes were the same font size as the reply.  the box and the "Quote from..." line make it very clear it's a quote, no need to make the user squint to read it.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: sonickteam2 on December 04, 2008, 10:29:29 am
I just found the new site after a week of just thinking the Bboard was down!

    I dont normally go the the homepage.  Anyway, it looks cool.  Definitely looks more modern and colorful.  I did like the old site cause it looked like the software i use at my job and less like a web page.

   the new board seems cool too.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: sweetcell on December 04, 2008, 11:53:43 am
the smilies are kinda hard to make out:
 
:)  :-[  :-X  :-\  :'(  ???  :(  8)

any chance they could be replaced with better graphics?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Got Haggis? on December 04, 2008, 12:31:47 pm
I just found the new site after a week of just thinking the Bboard was down!

    I dont normally go the the homepage.  Anyway, it looks cool.  Definitely looks more modern and colorful.  I did like the old site cause it looked like the software i use at my job and less like a web page.

   the new board seems cool too.

yeah I had this problem as well....so it would be a good idea to put a redirect to the proper forum
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Chip Chanko on December 04, 2008, 02:42:04 pm
Would it be possible to allow users to set their own preferences for how the forum looks? Or at least give a few themes people could pick from? The current color scheme is pretty ugly in my opinion. There are also usability issues: as Vansmack points out, it's hard to see the difference in shades when you're filling out forms or pressing buttons in the account settings. And as Darth and I have mentioned, the quote blocks are jarring. I do welcome all the options updating the server back-end brought, though.

I'll reiterate how much I hate the side bars and general look of the new forum. The old one was so clean and this one just seems messy and not well thought out in terms of design. To me everything about the redesign of the 9:30 site seems like it was done by throwing 50 things at a wall and all of them stuck. There's an elegance in simplicity.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Shadrach on December 04, 2008, 04:25:57 pm
Another vote to get ride of the sidebars, whether they be parquet, brick, or tile.

Pretty sure this hasn't been put up to vote, but thanks for your input.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Christine Moritz on December 04, 2008, 05:23:49 pm
Ditto re. width/usability issues and the set times on the main site -- where are they?

I'm not keen on the borders.

Search function sounds fantastic (although I haven't used it yet).

For a while I just thought the board (and the 9:30 site) was down -- can the old URLs be made to redirect to the new ones?

Speaking as a professional web developer (going on 14 years now), I have to say I really kind of hate it. Web sites that assume the user's browser window is really wide, quite frankly, suck. As a web developer, I make my web sites fit the width of the user's brower. It's a very simple thing to do, and only poor web designers (IMHO) require the user's web browser to have a certain size. The user should not have to adjust the size of their browser window to visit your web site. This is basic web usability.

Where are the set times on the main site? I'm not seeing the set times. This was the most useful piece of information on the 930.com web site, and I'm not seeing it. It's pretty much the only reason why I visit 930.com at all. I'm hoping it's just because the show is over, and tomorrow's set times haven't been posted yet.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: vansmack on December 04, 2008, 05:27:38 pm
Is anybody volunteering to write the cgi script to make the redirect work?

It wasn't an html page, it's a cgi page with specific instructions. 

In time, people will figure it out soon enough.  After all, priority number one for seth and the boys is finding the home page....
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Relaxer on December 04, 2008, 06:28:22 pm
It would be sort of interesting to try and draw out some trends on how quickly people caught on to the new location. I just discovered it today, having thought the old forum was down for 2 days or so. Are there consistent patterns among those for whom it took longer to show up? Age? Satisfaction in life? Amount of sex being had on daily basis?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: vansmack on December 04, 2008, 06:36:19 pm
That would be cool to know.

I got a personal phone call from Seth (well, really it was his assistant, but let's not split hairs) telling me that there was a new site up, that seth apologized for the downtime and that if I wouldn't mind taking a few moments to fill him in on what things I thought he should be aware of while the site was down, he would really appreciate it.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Jaguar on December 04, 2008, 08:22:12 pm
It would be sort of interesting to try and draw out some trends on how quickly people caught on to the new location. I just discovered it today, having thought the old forum was down for 2 days or so. Are there consistent patterns among those for whom it took longer to show up? Age? Satisfaction in life? Amount of sex being had on daily basis?

It's the new 9:30 Club IQ test. Apparently, we passed.

After using it for 2 days, I too will chime in with how much I hate the inside general look of the forum itself. Ugly, dirty, gritty colors and not easy to read for a number of reasons. I'm taking the extra step of using a different color font (which I know will get old fast) because the high contrast of the white type is way too difficult to read. The pearl grey of the old forum was perfect but I don't see it as an option here. It appeared white but was toned down enough to cut the contrast so you didn't get all those bright whites blinding your type. Even with the toned down type color, the entire look still plays havoc with the eyes.

I agree with Sweetcell (I think it was) too about the smilies. Too small. Look like yellow dots with smudges inside. The only ones that are easy to see at a glance are these little buggers.


;D :o ::)
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Darth Ed on December 04, 2008, 11:39:10 pm
Is anybody volunteering to write the cgi script to make the redirect work?
You don't need a CGI to do redirects. The web server software should be able to do the redirects all by itself. They're called "rewrite rules." And, yes, if 930.com is using Apache (I haven't checked), I can help with that.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on December 05, 2008, 09:20:12 am
I will stay away from aesthetic commentary since that is so up to individual taste, and instead focus on usability, which is more important.

Please fix the horizontal scroll...  it is one of the worst readability features on websites that require it (usually Myspace pages) and it appears to afflict both the front and forum pages.   On a 1024x768 screen with browser maximized you shouldn't have to scroll from side to side as well as up and down.  :(

Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: nkotb on December 05, 2008, 10:25:05 am
What horizontal scroll issues are you finding?  I've used Firefox and IE7 to view the site, and beyond one weird CSS issues with the header links in IE7, I haven't see a horizontal scroll at all.

Please fix the horizontal scroll...  it is one of the worst readability features on websites that require it (usually Myspace pages) and it appears to afflict both the front and forum pages.   On a 1024x768 screen with browser maximized you shouldn't have to scroll from side to side as well as up and down.  :(
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on December 05, 2008, 10:49:47 am
I am using Firefox on a Mac laptop, and to see the whole page I need to scroll from side to side.   You might have a higher screen resolution and therefore not have the scroll bar, but my configuration isn't at all unusual.

Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: eltee on December 05, 2008, 11:43:54 am
Not complaining, just curious; Anyone know if there is an option in PMs to not have a "preview pane"? Basically, I just want to see the list of PM titles and click to open the one I want to read. I'm okay with viewing the most recent PM in preview, but multiples stacked is not my preference.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: RatBastard on December 05, 2008, 03:29:27 pm
OK it has been a few days and I have tried to put the site through its paces.  My impression is that the new layout is extremely cluttered and not very user friendly.  It looks like a site that was done by someone who just learned HTML and is attempting to show off all the kewl code they know rather then a professionally designed site that is user clean, intuitive, and user friendly.  As is the case with someone else who posted in this thread, I have been designing web sites for about a decade now.  One of the first things I noticed is that the code has 345 errors when run against W3C validation (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.930.com&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0).  A professional web designer will always validate his code. 
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2008, 03:43:03 pm
One of the first things I noticed is that the code has 345 errors when run against W3C validation (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.930.com&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0).  A professional web designer will always validate his code. 

How very punk rock of them...
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: SPARX on December 05, 2008, 07:32:26 pm
I have the same problem as Doom mentioned with the horizontal scroll. As for the rest of my thoughts, my momma said if I didn't have anything nice to say to keep my mouth shut. I realize somebody did alot of work to come up with this new design.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: hutch on December 06, 2008, 12:52:10 am
thumbs down..

i like the old website and forum


Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: RatBastard on December 06, 2008, 02:01:02 pm
Is anybody volunteering to write the cgi script to make the redirect work?

It wasn't an html page, it's a cgi page with specific instructions. 

In time, people will figure it out soon enough.  After all, priority number one for seth and the boys is finding the home page....


This can be accomplished in the .htaccess file very easily.  No cgi is required.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: tklancer on December 08, 2008, 02:04:57 am
I'm fine with the new page, but can I put in a request for an RSS feed?  All I generally care about are the new shows, so an RSS feed would be ideal for me.  Surely I can't be the only one who would like this?
(OK, I care about set times too, but that's less RSS-friendly)

-Tom
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 08, 2008, 02:16:40 am
Just register for the E-Blast.


You'll get the new shows in your inbox every week like clockwork.

Edit: well...almost like clockwork.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Darth Ed on December 08, 2008, 02:17:03 pm
I'm fine with the new page, but can I put in a request for an RSS feed?  All I generally care about are the new shows, so an RSS feed would be ideal for me.  Surely I can't be the only one who would like this?
(OK, I care about set times too, but that's less RSS-friendly)

-Tom
Hey, Tom. I completely agree with you. An RSS feed would be wonderful. E-mail is soo 20th century.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Bags on December 09, 2008, 11:40:43 am
I agree -- the white background for quotes make them the dominant visual. 

But, I have to admit that I take time adapting to change, and rarely like it at first.  The search function, which I haven't used yet, will be worth any adjustment I have to endure, however!!!

PS, what is a buddy list?

\The way quotes are highlighted feels like overkill, it draws your attention to the quote than to the reply. Also, the color for boxes you can type in is too close to the color of the black/grey background (this is on a PC CRT). I appreciate the effort, though.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Bags on December 09, 2008, 11:52:34 am
I'm not sure when the new site went live, but I think it took me several days (well, today's my first day on here; realized it had been changed on Thursday or Friday of last week).  And then I couldn't get in and refused to re-register with a different name.  I had trouble getting the password reminder it kept telling me my user name was wrong.  I couldn't remember if my user name was the same as my display name as I haven't logged in for years...stayed logged in at both home and work.

Today I used the password change request using my email address, which I don't remember finding last week.

It would be sort of interesting to try and draw out some trends on how quickly people caught on to the new location. I just discovered it today, having thought the old forum was down for 2 days or so. Are there consistent patterns among those for whom it took longer to show up? Age? Satisfaction in life? Amount of sex being had on daily basis?
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Relaxer on December 09, 2008, 12:20:38 pm
I look forward to reading people?s accounts of their confusion, difficulties and challenges in adapting to the new site so that I can smirk and think to myself ?Well aren?t you a hot mess now? and feel superior for about 3 minutes before returning back to my crushing cave of hollowed-out introspection.

Actually, I just wanted to chronicle and justify the fact that I read Bags? post and said to myself, Well aren?t you a hot mess now, but I wasn?t 100% confident in my reasoning or position there.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Relaxer on December 09, 2008, 12:22:05 pm
Ultimately this has more to do with my current obsession with calling everything a 'hot mess'.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Bags on December 09, 2008, 12:31:20 pm
Relaxer, I think you'd be justified in calling me a hot mess just about anytime, and being within the bounds of "pretty close."
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Dr. Anton Phibes on December 10, 2008, 01:40:50 pm

I thought the club and web had both closed down! Wouldn't work off my saved link for the home page.

Did another search today and found it. Glad all is well......
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Christine Moritz on December 11, 2008, 11:57:14 am
I hate to say this, but the new forum design is making me visit the forum less.

:(

The borders hurt my eyes (it's not quite as bad on my home computer because they're narrower there -- not sure if this is because I'm on Firefox there, or because of the screen resolution settings).  And the brown-on-black color scheme for the listing of thread topics makes them hard to read.

I am glad there's now a search function and all, but couldn't the design/layout be stripped down a bit to make it more user-friendly?

On the plus side, I am pleased to see that the "today's set times" box has been added back to the main site -- that's a very handy feature.
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: walkonby on December 11, 2008, 12:27:13 pm
I hate to say this, but the new forum design is making me visit the forum less.

:(

The borders hurt my eyes (it's not quite as bad on my home computer because they're narrower there -- not sure if this is because I'm on Firefox there, or because of the screen resolution settings).  And the brown-on-black color scheme for the listing of thread topics makes them hard to read.

I am glad there's now a search function and all, but couldn't the design/layout be stripped down a bit to make it more user-friendly?

On the plus side, I am pleased to see that the "today's set times" box has been added back to the main site -- that's a very handy feature.

don't worry, i am contemplating unleashing my inner crazy, like david foster wallace, and make this site the interesting place it needs to be!!
Title: Re: So what do you think of the new site?
Post by: Vas Deferens on December 12, 2008, 10:22:47 am
I like the fact that you can modify your post from the day before...