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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: hutch on September 05, 2011, 10:17:58 pm
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Unreal
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/news/20110905_neworder.shtml
Gillian's quote seems to indicate this is more permanent than not..."It's been a long ten years since I took a break from the band, so I I'm really happy to be back, and this is a great place to start."
Its no secret how badly things deteriorated...and Sumner - and maybe the others I'm not sure- did not like Hook touring Joy Division
THis was Peter Hook last week (he is going to respond on this "reunion" tomorrow)...
Last week, Hook told Slicing Up Eyeballs that he and his former New Order bandmates were discussing when and how to release seven remaining outtakes from the sessions of the band?s final album, 2005′s Waiting for the Sirens? Call. He described the talks as contentious (?They keep elbowing me out all the time. Every time I try to do something, I get outvoted.?), but gave no indication he was aware of the decision to reform New Order without him.
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peter_hook1 peter hook
It's a shame that, I thought Bad Lieutenant weren't bad!
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Saw the original line-up twice back in the 80's. Most boring live band ever.
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Never saw them live... to me Joy Division/New Order are the most important band of the past 30+ years.
Who knew they'd end up like Pink Floyd?
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Saw the original line-up twice back in the 80's. Most boring live band ever.
You're actually not the first person I've heard that from......why did you go a second time though?
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Never saw them live... to me Joy Division/New Order are the most important band of the past 30+ years.
Who knew they'd end up like Pink Floyd?
Your definition of "important" isn't like everybody else's, is it? For what? Making a 12" that looked like a floppy disc? Doing a lot of drugs? Running a club into the ground?
Let's face it, New Order haven't been the same since Ian Curtis left. Or was that Syd Barrett?
Brian
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Is any band actually "important?"
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only 1 band is important . . . and their bass player killed himself sometime ago. their last album wasn't that great, but their logo is immortal.
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Is any band actually "important?"
Nope!
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only 1 band is important . . . and their bass player killed himself sometime ago. their last album wasn't that great, but their logo is immortal.
he didn't kill himself, he was killed in a tour bus accident.
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who are you talking about, sweets? i am talking about the one and the only . . .
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only 1 band is important . . . and their bass player killed himself sometime ago. their last album wasn't that great, but their logo is immortal.
he didn't kill himself, he was killed in a tour bus accident.
Are you sure he isn't talking about the Dead Milkmen?
Brian
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yeah . . . who was killed in a tour bus accident.
the only person i can think of is cliff burton. yeah, i think sweets was talking about metallica. funny. i used to listen to them not stop like a freak . . . then the black album came out. the end of that.
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yes, i knew he was talking about the dead milkmen; and yes, i was trying to make a funny by commandeering his insinuation. but i guess if i have to explain it...
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who are you talking about, sweets? i am talking about the one and the only . . .
Wait..... The Sweet? Really?
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Saw the original line-up twice back in the 80's. Most boring live band ever.
You're actually not the first person I've heard that from......why did you go a second time though?
First time was with Gene Loves Jezebel and Echo and the Bunnymen
Second time was with Sugarcubes and Public Image Limited
Both shows at MPP both times New Order was the middle band. I guess a good place for a band that knows they are incredibly boring.
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Saw the original line-up twice back in the 80's. Most boring live band ever.
You're actually not the first person I've heard that from......why did you go a second time though?
First time was with Gene Loves Jezebel and Echo and the Bunnymen
Second time was with Sugarcubes and Public Image Limited
Both shows at MPP both times New Order was the middle band. I guess a good place for a band that knows they are incredibly boring.
I can imagine them being much more of a studio band than live act. They are a pretty bloody incredible studio band though.
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how was Gene Loves Jezebel? were they the headliner?
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I can imagine them being much more of a studio band than live act. They are a pretty bloody incredible studio band though.
Ain't that the truth. Such a shame.
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how was Gene Loves Jezebel? were they the headliner?
Gene Loves Jezebel were the opener and they were pretty amazing. This was before the mainstream change that they made. Echo were pretty amazing as well. I guess that made New Orders performance all that more unexciting.
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Never saw them live... to me Joy Division/New Order are the most important band of the past 30+ years.
Who knew they'd end up like Pink Floyd?
Your definition of "important" isn't like everybody else's, is it? For what? Making a 12" that looked like a floppy disc? Doing a lot of drugs? Running a club into the ground?
Let's face it, New Order haven't been the same since Ian Curtis left. Or was that Syd Barrett?
Brian
REALLY?
Running a club into the ground?
Actually, it was drugs that ran the Hacienda into the ground, not Joy Division.
Nobody was buying drinks in the club, they just paid the entry fee and took drugs once inside, and the club couldn't survive on door fees alone. I know because I went there a few times and it just wasn't my kind of club not being a junkie.
If it weren't for bands like Joy Division the Hacienda would've closed down much earlier than it did. The factory was a much better place in my opinion.
Curtis was never in New Order.
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REALLY?
Running a club into the ground?
Actually, it was drugs that ran the Hacienda into the ground, not Joy Division.
Nobody was buying drinks in the club, they just paid the entry fee and took drugs once inside, and the club couldn't survive on door fees alone. I know because I went there a few times and it just wasn't my kind of club not being a junkie.
If it weren't for bands like Joy Division the Hacienda would've closed down much earlier than it did. The factory was a much better place in my opinion.
Curtis was never in New Order.
C'mon, everybody knows facts are sooo passé. Opinions and egos are where its at! It's so refreshing the idiots have found the courage to speak with such conviction.
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REALLY?
Running a club into the ground?
Actually, it was drugs that ran the Hacienda into the ground, not Joy Division.
Nobody was buying drinks in the club, they just paid the entry fee and took drugs once inside, and the club couldn't survive on door fees alone. I know because I went there a few times and it just wasn't my kind of club not being a junkie.
If it weren't for bands like Joy Division the Hacienda would've closed down much earlier than it did. The factory was a much better place in my opinion.
Curtis was never in New Order.
C'mon, everybody knows facts are sooo passé. Opinions and egos are where its at! It's so refreshing the idiots have found the courage to speak with such conviction.
You weren't there...you wouldn't understand. (actually, you probably weren't even born) ;)
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REALLY?
Running a club into the ground?
Actually, it was drugs that ran the Hacienda into the ground, not Joy Division.
Nobody was buying drinks in the club, they just paid the entry fee and took drugs once inside, and the club couldn't survive on door fees alone. I know because I went there a few times and it just wasn't my kind of club not being a junkie.
If it weren't for bands like Joy Division the Hacienda would've closed down much earlier than it did. The factory was a much better place in my opinion.
Curtis was never in New Order.
C'mon, everybody knows facts are sooo passé. Opinions and egos are where its at! It's so refreshing the idiots have found the courage to speak with such conviction.
You weren't there...you wouldn't understand. (actually, you probably weren't even born) ;)
I did get to go once around '91? In hindsight I didn't understand.
I came back thinking the duo 'Candy Flip' were going to be HUGE.
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LOL...Candy Flip. Wow. Proof that anyone in a bedroom with a drum machine can have a hit.
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Who cares about an iconic club from "Madchester?" Some legendary night when Bez went absolutely CRAZY!?!?!?! Stop living in the past. Evolve or die. That's like deifying "The hottest rap-metal club EVER! The Deftones. Korn. Fred. They were in here ALL THE TIME!"
Brian
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Who cares about an iconic club from "Madchester?" Some legendary night when Bez went absolutely CRAZY!?!?!?! Stop living in the past. Evolve or die. That's like deifying "The hottest rap-metal club EVER! The Deftones. Korn. Fred. They were in here ALL THE TIME!"
Brian
Some do. I was just telling someone of my personal experience of the club regarding the facts of why it closed. You didn't have to read my comment.
Are you ever NOT pissed off with a bad attitude?
I bet you're a total bag o laughs to hang out with.
"Hey Brian...would you like a beer?"
"Beer? Do I look like I want a fucking beer?...Beer is for old men with no life. Fuck you. I'm way too cool to drink beer"
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Brian Wallace is like the the Sarah Palin of the 9:30 Club Board. We all laugh, jeer, get pissed off, or gawk, but the reality with people like that, if you stop paying them attention they'll eventually go away. Not that I don't find some of his stuff sometimes amusing even if I disagree with 99% of it. Maybe if we validate him with a flick along the lines of "Who's Nailin' Palin" he'll be be appeased. We could call it "Balls to the Wallace: Grudge Fuck 7".
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Brian's on target about 90% of the time for me, which probably makes him more amusing to me than others.
Why would you want him to go away? Message boards desperately need more people like Brian. Otherwise they're just a group of friends in a chat room...zzzzzz....
Brian Wallace is like the the Sarah Palin of the 9:30 Club Board. We all laugh, jeer, get pissed off, or gawk, but the reality with people like that, if you stop paying them attention they'll eventually go away. Not that I don't find some of his stuff sometimes amusing even if I disagree with 99% of it. Maybe if we validate him with a flick along the lines of "Who's Nailin' Palin" he'll be be appeased. We could call it "Balls to the Wallace: Grudge Fuck 7".
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Brian's on target about 90% of the time for me, which probably makes him more amusing to me than others.
Why would you want him to go away? Message boards desperately need more people like Brian. Otherwise they're just a group of friends in a chat room...zzzzzz....
Brian Wallace is like the the Sarah Palin of the 9:30 Club Board. We all laugh, jeer, get pissed off, or gawk, but the reality with people like that, if you stop paying them attention they'll eventually go away. Not that I don't find some of his stuff sometimes amusing even if I disagree with 99% of it. Maybe if we validate him with a flick along the lines of "Who's Nailin' Palin" he'll be be appeased. We could call it "Balls to the Wallace: Grudge Fuck 7".
The character needs to evolve and work harder. Just being contrarian with some fake rage and ego only goes so far and then it equally becomes "zzzzz". It needs more intelligence and thought to the bluster. Less throwing spaghetti against the wall and seeing what sticks and more actual attempts at a surgical strike type of rebuttal.
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It's not fake. Have YOU listened to "Technique" or "Pills 'n' Thrills & Bellyaches" recently?
Brian
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"I first I heard about this on Monday and it has taken me completely by surprise! Everyone knows that NEW ORDER without PETER HOOK is like QUEEN without FREDDIE MERCURY, U2 without THE EDGE, SOOTY without SWEEP!
On a more serious note, I do not understand the decision THE OTHER THREE have taken. I wish they had approached me first. I do not agree with the methods they have used and feel it would have been courteous and professional to have spoken to me in advance of the announcements. It is very sad."
Love PETER HOOK x Sept 2011
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It's not fake. Have YOU listened to "Technique" or "Pills 'n' Thrills & Bellyaches" recently?
Brian
Yeah, 'Technique' still stands up as a solid album. Listened to the Black Grape 1st album last week if that counts.
The bigger question is why were you listening to them?
"Stop living in the past"
"Evolve or die"
History is kinda cool. It can make you smarter (i.e. not sound like a dumbass).
For instance if you knew some music history you'd know Ian Curtis didn't 'leave' New Order.
He committed suicide when he was the singer of Joy Division.
Syd Barrett didn't even leave Pink Floyd. He was left behind because of mental/drug issues.
I still say you're being fake (with some need for attention that wasn't fulfilled in your youth).
You can't be this stupid.
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It's not fake. Have YOU listened to "Technique" or "Pills 'n' Thrills & Bellyaches" recently?
Brian
Yeah, 'Technique' still stands up as a solid album. Listened to the Black Grape 1st album last week if that counts.
Good. Then we don't have to suffer. Thanks for taking that bullet for us.
Brian
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It's not fake. Have YOU listened to "Technique" or "Pills 'n' Thrills & Bellyaches" recently?
Brian
Yeah, 'Technique' still stands up as a solid album. Listened to the Black Grape 1st album last week if that counts.
Good. Then we don't have to suffer. Thanks for taking that bullet for us.
Brian
Ok, if you want the attention you so desperately desire, you could at least answer this question.
Why do you care what music people enjoy?
We're at a technological point where you can listen to anything you want, anywhere you want. It's not like the past where you were at the mercy of radio programming and the tastes of the masses or limited to where a piece of wax could be played.
C'mon you don't have to pretend you or anybody else suffers from the enjoyment of someones music taste.
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It's not fake. Have YOU listened to "Technique" or "Pills 'n' Thrills & Bellyaches" recently?
Brian
Yeah, 'Technique' still stands up as a solid album. Listened to the Black Grape 1st album last week if that counts.
Good. Then we don't have to suffer. Thanks for taking that bullet for us.
Brian
Ok, if you want the attention you so desperately desire, you could at least answer this question.
Why do you care what music people enjoy?
We're at a technological point where you can listen to anything you want, anywhere you want. It's not like the past where you were at the mercy of radio programming and the tastes of the masses or limited to where a piece of wax could be played.
C'mon you don't have to pretend you or anybody else suffers from the enjoyment of someones music taste.
It's necropathetic. Music is the only artistic medium where it's not only accepted but encouraged to revere music made generations ago. And it's POP music. It's like preserving a bag of Doritos. There isn't a lot of 15 year-olds who love the Beatles anymore but there's a lot of 30 year-old who do. Adult men and women who should be doing adult things and they play on their iphones, take money from mommy and step-daddy and play "The Beatles Rock Band." Which is pathetic. It's this whole Generation X thing. Mom and Daddy got divorced and they never grew up. It really is the enemy of progress. Nostalgia. If you want to live in the past, fine. The rest of us have grown up and are moving on. Listen to whatever you want. But that won't stop me and a lot of others from regarding you with utter contempt. Put on your ironic t-shirts and drink you soda and listen to Lenny Kravitz and complain about how George Lucas raped your childhood.
Brian
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If the music of long ago doesn't hold up today, then the music of today won't hold up in 20 years. So don't bother listening to anything at all. And shut the fuck up.
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you regard me with "utter contempt"? Geez Brian Wallace.. thought you were my friend! ::)
not knowing your history and assuming that things to be good must be "new" is what sucks....a lot of these new bands people rave about couldn't hold peter hook's jockstrap!
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Granted, you can't tell much from 20th century artifacts like hard-copy magazines but there really are only two mainstream magazines devoted to popular music: Spin and Rolling Stone.
One has the 20th Anniversary of Nirvana on the cover and the other has George Harrison...
Brian
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you regard me with "utter contempt"? Geez Brian Wallace.. thought you were my friend! ::)
Not you, per se. Just those REALLY excited about Paul Simon playing the club.
Brian
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It's necropathetic. Music is the only artistic medium where it's not only accepted but encouraged to revere music made generations ago. And it's POP music. It's like preserving a bag of Doritos. There isn't a lot of 15 year-olds who love the Beatles anymore but there's a lot of 30 year-old who do. Adult men and women who should be doing adult things and they play on their iphones, take money from mommy and step-daddy and play "The Beatles Rock Band." Which is pathetic. It's this whole Generation X thing. Mom and Daddy got divorced and they never grew up. It really is the enemy of progress. Nostalgia. If you want to live in the past, fine. The rest of us have grown up and are moving on. Listen to whatever you want. But that won't stop me and a lot of others from regarding you with utter contempt. Put on your ironic t-shirts and drink you soda and listen to Lenny Kravitz and complain about how George Lucas raped your childhood.
Brian
Dude, sorry for basically calling you stupid and having ego problems. It's not productive.
I would seriously suggest expanding and exploring your thoughts. Take an art history course.
To say 'Music is the only artistic medium where it's not only accepted but encouraged to revere music made generations ago.' shows complete ignorance to some of the joys of humanity. No wonder you have 'utter contempt'.
The history of every artistic medium is accepted, encouraged, and revered! Have you never been to a museum or gallery? Looked at buildings? Been to a library?
You obviously have the skills for critical thinking, you just haven't explored the world enough to know it isn't flat.
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People listen to old music because todays music for the most part is SHIT! Name ONE current day band that people will still be listening to in 20 years time. *There are a handful of good bands but generally speaking todays garbage is unoriginal bad attempts at emulating bands from years past*
Brian is most likely a middle child who was not given much attention by mommy and daddy. He's not as smart as the older sibling and not as pretty as the younger one. He does whatever it takes to grab attention from anybody. Wether negative or positive is not important, it's just the attention he yearns for. He's feels he's the big man with his bold statements using big words....bless him.
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99% of music from ANY decade sucks. It's just easier to find the good music from the past because someone else has already done the work for you. Or you've done it yourself, and your hindsight is bettter than your current vision.
People listen to old music because todays music for the most part is SHIT! Name ONE current day band that people will still be listening to in 20 years time. *There are a handful of good bands but generally speaking todays garbage is unoriginal bad attempts at emulating bands from years past*
Brian is most likely a middle child who was not given much attention by mommy and daddy. He's not as smart as the older sibling and not as pretty as the younger one. He does whatever it takes to grab attention from anybody. Wether negative or positive is not important, it's just the attention he yearns for. He's feels he's the big man with his bold statements using big words....bless him.
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Music is the only artistic medium where it's not only accepted but encouraged to revere music made generations ago.
Sure, it's not like people revere older painting or sculpture or are paying nine figures for a 70-year old Picasso (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nude,_Green_Leaves_and_Bust), or a 50-year old Giacometti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Homme_qui_marche_I).
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I feel like that guy in that new car commericial about the Vermeer paintings. There's also one with a Honus Wagner baseball. I'm the guy with the car.
"What will I be doing in twenty years' time? I'll be dead, darling! Are you crazy?" - Freddie Mercury
Brian
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"What will I be doing in twenty years' time? I'll be dead, darling! Are you crazy?" - Freddie Mercury
so it's ok to quote mercury but not ok to listen to his music?
you often post quotes & passages - things others have said, often long ago. isn't that a form of idolizing the past? GET WITH THE PRESENT, BRIAN.
:P
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you often post quotes & passages - things others have said, often long ago. isn't that a form of idolizing the past?
:P
Dammit! You GOT me, Encyclopedia Brown! You just wait until your husky girlfriend ain't with ya! Then me and the rest of the Tigers will break your glasses!
Hugs and kisses,
Bugs Meany
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any ideas on brian wallace's true identity? i'm 80% sure he's an alter-ego of another boardie, and i'm guessing Booker T :)
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any ideas on brian wallace's true identity? i'm 80% sure he's an alter-ego of another boardie, and i'm guessing Booker T :)
James Ford/Rhett?
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any ideas on brian wallace's true identity?
(http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/memes-trollface-gifs-part.gif)
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Flawd.
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Flawd.
Good call
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Might not be too hard to figure out by searching keywords and finding someone else that hates the Beatles, Paul Simon, Madchester, New Order and nostalgia; But has a fondness for Freddy Mercury and Encyclopedia Brown.
Hasn't the persona also shown some love for Dane Cook and My Chemical Romance?
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Might not be too hard to figure out by searching keywords and finding someone else that hates the Beatles, Paul Simon, Madchester, New Order and nostalgia; But has a fondness for Freddy Mercury and Encyclopedia Brown.
Hasn't the persona also shown some love for Dane Cook and My Chemical Romance?
and hates the idea that people might like to have fun once in awhile. (i.e. beatles rock band)
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Might not be too hard to figure out by searching keywords and finding someone else that hates the Beatles, Paul Simon, Madchester, New Order and nostalgia; But has a fondness for Freddy Mercury and Encyclopedia Brown.
Hasn't the persona also shown some love for Dane Cook and My Chemical Romance?
I actually think it's someone who enjoys that stuff but needs an outlet... I think it's pretty funny, frankly
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Haven't gone through the entire thread, but from what I read elsewhere on-line, this reformation is simply for 2-3 shows for a charity benefit & that's about it.
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Haven't gone through the entire thread, but from what I read elsewhere on-line, this reformation is simply for 2-3 shows for a charity benefit & that's about it.
there's a quote from gillian that makes me think otherwise..here it is:
"It's been a long ten years since I took a break from the band, so I I'm really happy to be back, and this is a great place to start."
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Funny, I just cannot picture New Order without Peter Hook. And same with Depeche Mode without Alan Wilder. Even though Martin Gore is the songwriter, Alan fleshed out all the tunes and breathed life into them. He was the master arranger. If Ian Curtis had been the heart of Joy Division, Peter Hook was the blood running through it. And that goes the same for New Order.
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Funny, I just cannot picture New Order without Peter Hook. And same with Depeche Mode without Alan Wilder. Even though Martin Gore is the songwriter, Alan fleshed out all the tunes and breathed life into them. He was the master arranger. If Ian Curtis had been the heart of Joy Division, Peter Hook was the blood running through it. And that goes the same for New Order.
NO ONE can imagine neworder without Hook... no one... but crazier things have happened... pink floyd without waters?
hook seems rather resigned to it.. after the show someone outside was telling him how new order couldn't carry on without him.. i didn't want to talk about it..the whole thing is crazy...
the real issue is do these guys have anything worthwhile left to say...
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Hook is a bass player....I could probably replace him and I've only ever played violin
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Come up with the bass lines to "She's Lost Control", "Ceremony", "Transmission", "New Dawn Fades", etc. and then we'll talk.
Ever notice how many of the great JD songs begin with Hook's bass? His bass was integral to New Order, but a LOT of their songs begin with percussion, a clear nod towards the 80's sound they were trying to pioneer.
Another truly great bass player is Simon Gallup for the Cure. He anchors their songs and stuff like "the Figurehead", "A Forest", and "At Night" wouldn't be what they are if it wasn't for him.
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Come up with the bass lines to "She's Lost Control", "Ceremony", "Transmission", "New Dawn Fades", etc. and then we'll talk.
Ever notice how many of the great JD songs begin with Hook's bass? His bass was integral to New Order, but a LOT of their songs begin with percussion, a clear nod towards the 80's sound they were trying to pioneer.
Another truly great bass player is Simon Gallup for the Cure. He anchors their songs and stuff like "the Figurehead", "A Forest", and "At Night" wouldn't be what they are if it wasn't for him.
Fishing is good...they're biting like crazy!
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and i'm guessing Booker T :)
No, Booker T is a winner.
Brian_Wallace is not. (http://profiles.sports.yahoo.com/user/HEOPUV36Z34N7SKPO6XJDUXVX4)
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I thought the Peter Hook show was great as well. In contrast to the Unknown Pleasures show last December, his stage presence was alot more aggressive and he played bass more than he did last time.
Atrocity Exhibition, Isolation, Twenty-Four Hours, Incubation, Dead Souls, and Digital absolutely killed.
The Eternal and Decades both sounded meh to me. I liked the studio versions better. I think the bass was too high on them.
I think he stumbled up on the words a few times but not sure.
As usual, the DC crowd was pretty still. Also surprised it didn't pull more people (there must have been what, maybe 600 people there?)
Over all it was an awesome show, glad I went.
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I missed Peter Hook the last time he was in town but made damn sure that I was there for 'closer' and it did not disappoint. I still cannot believe I experienced hearing Joy Division songs played live by one of the key song writers in the band. It would have been nice if Hook focused less on vocals and more on playing but it was still an awesome show - those songs sound fucking GREAT live!
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I wrote up the 'Closer' show here:
http://www.welovedc.com/2011/09/23/we-love-music-peter-hook-the-light-present-closer-930-club-92111/
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I wrote up the 'Closer' show here:
http://www.welovedc.com/2011/09/23/we-love-music-peter-hook-the-light-present-closer-930-club-92111/
Nice review. He should now tackle the New Order catalog! It'd surely be better tham the rest of the band without him.
I never understood how a band with Peter Hook could be considered boring, as New Order live was.
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"It's the same thing with New Order deciding to tour without me -- [it] makes me all the more determined to f--- New Order over in any possible way I can. If they think I'm just going to scuttle off to a cabin in the woods, they've got another thing coming. They're dickheads. People go and hide, but I don't. I'm a fighter. I'm going to come out fighting."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/peter-hook-vows-revenge-against-new-order_n_998578.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/06/peter-hook-vows-revenge-against-new-order_n_998578.html)
I'm glad he's taking the high road because, you know...there's a lot of meanness and hatred in the world and it's just a major drag. I mean, just IMAGINE if we had no countries! No war! Nobody fighting! Everything's free! And downloadable to our ipads! Nothing to kill or die for! Awesome! Power to the People! Wall St. fat pigs are bringing me down, man!
Seriously. Stop the hate, Peter Hook. It will eat you up inside. Spread the love. That's all you need. Love. Love is all you need. :-*
Brian
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Seriously. Stop the hate, Peter Hook. It will eat you up inside. Spread the love. That's all you need. Love. Love is all you need. :-*
Brian
the irony here is killing me.
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Hook said in that interview that he's going to tour New Order in 2012!
I wrote up the 'Closer' show here:
http://www.welovedc.com/2011/09/23/we-love-music-peter-hook-the-light-present-closer-930-club-92111/
Nice review. He should now tackle the New Order catalog! It'd surely be better tham the rest of the band without him.
I never understood how a band with Peter Hook could be considered boring, as New Order live was.
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He should perform as The New Order and schedule his shows at venues the night before New Order plays them.
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He should perform as The New Order and schedule his shows at venues the night before New Order plays them.
Newer Order
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Considering Hook's draw he would be playing the parking lot!
He should perform as The New Order and schedule his shows at venues the night before New Order plays them.
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New Order did their first gig in Brussels last night. Here was the setlist:
01. Elegia
02. Crystal
03. Regret
04. Ceremony
05. Age of Consent
06. Love Vigilantes
07. Krafty
08. 1963
09. Bizarre Love Triangle
10. True Faith
11. 586
12. The Perfect Kiss
13. Temptation
14. Blue Monday
15. Love Will Tear Us Apart
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I'd go to that show!! (reluctantly..)
New Order did their first gig in Brussels last night. Here was the setlist:
01. Elegia
02. Crystal
03. Regret
04. Ceremony
05. Age of Consent
06. Love Vigilantes
07. Krafty
08. 1963
09. Bizarre Love Triangle
10. True Faith
11. 586
12. The Perfect Kiss
13. Temptation
14. Blue Monday
15. Love Will Tear Us Apart
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The bassist was Tom Chapman from Bad Lieutenant, and Gilbert was back on keyboards.