once again the jokes write themselves...

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by pdx pollard:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
 well, i'm sure that if she were alive, herr doom would certainly tell her that her baby barack would be a drag on her life and society at large since she was an unwed teenage mother.

She wasn't unwed. [/b]

but, the point stays the same, no?  even obama has noted that he was born to a teenage mother.

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  but, the point stays the same, no?  even obama has noted that he was born to a teenage mother.

i really dont give a shit about the point, just correcting your mistake, if her kid wants to have a kid, more power to her, doesnt make me think any more or less of Palin, her beliefs give me all I need to know about her
 
 the only thing the kid thing does is make me think even less of republicans who moralize when its not their own house, didnt think it was possible

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  that maybe true, and it is certainly amusing to people.  what i'm simply getting at is even with safe-sex education, how do we know she still wouldn't have gotten pregnant; as well as the underlying assumption by people that she should have just got an abortion.

For the record, I've never said she should have an abortion, but I'm not shy about saying she should at least have that option available to her should she want to choose it.
 
 But the point you're missing is that those who teach safe-sex also talk about the value of abstinence.  As a matter of fact, any good teacher will lead with it.  
 
 The Evangelicals who talk about abstinence don't talk about the value of safe-sex (they tend to discount it all together), and that's how you get situations like the one we have here.  No one's saying you shouldn't talk about absitnenece or that teaching safe-sex would have prevented the outcome in this case, but we are allowed to attack the policies of Governor Palin and use situtations like the one she's facing here as examples as to why her policies on abstinenece only are misguided.
 
 That, my friend, is not off limits, and worthy of a debate without being disregarded as an unfair liberal attack.

[Relaxer]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   

Originally posted by kosmo:
 
 and biden was cleared of those plagiarism charges.

btw, i just wanted to address this. . .i frankly don't know how he was cleared of this charge.  slate has two (two!!!) articles on this, so i would perhaps direct you  to  them. [/b]

He was cleared of the charge because if you put a spotlight on any political stump speech, you're going to find plenty to poo-poo.
 
 As these articles say, and then quickly gloss over, Biden repeatedly cited Kinnock when giving the speeches but neglected to in approximately 5 percent of the speeches he gave in that time period. The other charges are all based on a tsk-tsk level of nuance.
 
 But if you really think this is relevant, go ahead and ignore the guy's decades of legislative work and accomplishments because he made a sloppy error 20+ years ago. That will reveal the depth of your convictions.

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by pdx pollard:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  but, the point stays the same, no?  even obama has noted that he was born to a teenage mother.

i really dont give a shit about the point, just correcting your mistake, if her kid wants to have a kid, more power to her, doesnt make me think any more or less of Palin, her beliefs give me all I need to know about her[/b]

well, according to her  wiki, obama's mom got pregnant before she got married, and the wedding was a direct result of the pregnancy. . .you can "correct" me all you want, but the facts are still the same.

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by Relaxer:
 
 But if you really think this is relevant, go ahead and ignore the guy's decades of legislative work and accomplishments because he made a sloppy error 20+ years ago. That will reveal the depth of your convictions.

and, as the article notes, the stealing of kinnock's life story is only one part of biden's history.  it points out a number of other discrepancies that biden made during that campaign, and that no one has bothered to check if he's done anything since.
 
 and yes, by all means, let's not forget his landmark bankruptcy bill that got signed a few years ago that has been a boon to consumers. . it has been so succesful, that obama already wants to  change it.  but, of course, that is simply only one instance and one not worth noting.

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  well, according to her  wiki, obama's mom got pregnant before she got married, and the wedding was a direct result of the pregnancy. . .you can "correct" me all you want, but the facts are still the same.

jesus christ, why do i bother, this board is fucking stupid these days, right so she was a mother as soon as conception I get it

[godsshoeshine]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   

Originally posted by Relaxer:
 
 But if you really think this is relevant, go ahead and ignore the guy's decades of legislative work and accomplishments because he made a sloppy error 20+ years ago. That will reveal the depth of your convictions.

and, as the article notes, the stealing of kinnock's life story is only one part of biden's history.  it points out a number of other discrepancies that biden made during that campaign, and that no one has bothered to check if he's done anything since.
 
 and yes, by all means, let's not forget his landmark bankruptcy bill that got signed a few years ago that has been a boon to consumers. . it has been so succesful, that obama already wants to  change it.  but, of course, that is simply only one instance and one not worth noting. [/b]

so...thats a reason to vote for obama as mccain voted for it?

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
  so...thats a reason to vote for obama as mccain voted for it?

does this  help?

[Cali]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  that maybe true, and it is certainly amusing to people.  what i'm simply getting at is even with safe-sex education, how do we know she still wouldn't have gotten pregnant; as well as the underlying assumption by people that she should have just got an abortion.

For the record, I've never said she should have an abortion, but I'm not shy about saying she should at least have that option available to her should she want to choose it.
 
 But the point you're missing is that those who teach safe-sex also talk about the value of abstinence.  As a matter of fact, any good teacher will lead with it.  
 
 The Evangelicals who talk about abstinence don't talk about the value of safe-sex (they tend to discount it all together), and that's how you get situations like the one we have here.  No one's saying you shouldn't talk about absitnenece or that teaching safe-sex would have prevented the outcome in this case, but we are allowed to attack the policies of Governor Palin and use situtations like the one she's facing here as examples as to why her policies on abstinenece only are misguided.
 
 That, my friend, is not off limits, and worthy of a debate without being disregarded as an unfair liberal attack. [/b]

well said but i think the point will still be missed

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by pdx pollard:
   

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  well, according to her  wiki, obama's mom got pregnant before she got married, and the wedding was a direct result of the pregnancy. . .you can "correct" me all you want, but the facts are still the same.

jesus christ, why do i bother, this board is fucking stupid these days, right so she was a mother as soon as conception I get it [/b]

I thought I read somewhere that his dad nailed some white trailer trash bitch or something like that...and that statement came from a man of the cloth.
 
 I wonder how many 930 board members are married and how many are having sex?

[sonickteam2]

So after listening to the first boring half of McCains speech last night, i did decide one thing.   Things should improve from now no matter WHO is elected.

[manimtired]

i watched the speech last night but dont remember it b/c i was nearing black out drunk from watching the shitty ass redskins. skins sucking + jack daniels = wat.

[Vas Deferens]

if Palin's daughter got pregnant as a result of rape, would she be pro-life?

[manimtired]

Originally posted by wanderlust j. marshmallow:
  if Palin's daughter got pregnant as a result of rape, would she be pro-life?

deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep brah.