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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: shemptiness on January 12, 2013, 11:16:15 pm
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Ravens / Broncos. Wow.
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Amazing game.
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So in the NFC we've got #1 vs. #2. AFC gives us a rematch of last year. What's your call?
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What an amazing game!!!
I think it's going to be tough on Sunday, but I think they can do it. Tom Brady is getting sacked!
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As long as you're a holy man, murder can be forgotten!
Go Pats!
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
This is not true.. he himself admitted to being guilty of obstructing a murder investigation!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seems serious to me!
so at best he is guilty of obstructing murder and at worse he is a murderer..
Not all criminals are found guilty..doesn't mean they weren't guilty!!!!!
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
2 settlements!!
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I've called the Ravens to lose the last 2 weeks and have been dead wrong. That bomb to Jacoby Jones was fucking insane and such ridiculously lousy play on the Broncos defensive backs. The Denver defense is stout, but if the Ravens could exploit them, they could also do it to New England. On the other side, New England's defense attacks and goes after offenses more. I don't see the Ravens run going past Foxboro, but I didn't see it getting past the Colts, and definitely not the Broncos. I'll expect they can give the Patriots a harder time than the Texans eventually did, but I think the Texans were more of an offensive juggernaut than the Ravens. I just think the Patriots have WAY too many weapons on offense to exploit any open inch of the Ravens defense. Tom Brady to Wes Welker? Brandon Lloyd? Aaron Hernandez? Or ANY of their 3 insane running backs? Stevan Ridley? Danny Woodhead? Or Shane fucking Vereen?
It was great to see Tony Gonzalez get his first playoff win, but I just think the 49ers are going to steam roll them. I think 49ers vs Patriots would be a great Super Bowl.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
You're living in a fantasy land if you don't think Ray Lewis has blood on his hands. He was either directly involved in two murders or protected those who were.
It blows my mind the way this guy has repaired his public persona.
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So in the NFC we've got #1 vs. #2. AFC gives us a rematch of last year. What's your call?
Ravens and 49ers. Brady is going down. Flacco will prove he is best QB in the NFL. Peyton Manning is the most overrated QB in NFL history. Only 9 playoff wins in his entire career. Flacco already has 7 and counting. If the Broncos hadn't had those two run backs it would have been a blow-out.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
You're living in a fantasy land if you don't think Ray Lewis has blood on his hands. He was either directly involved in two murders or protected those who were.
It blows my mind the way this guy has repaired his public persona.
The lord giveth!
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
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I am just tired of hearing about it all the time whenever anyone talks about the Ravens.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
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Fans do not have amnesia. it is very sad. But, he did not go to jail for murder and most fans believe he has redeemed himself. At least this one does. Is he my all time favorite hero ever? No.
But, I would rather think about the game and all the other players on the team. Like Joe flacco!
Plus, I'm a much bigger Orioles fan than Ravens fan.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
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Fans do not have amnesia. it is very sad. But, he did not go to jail for murder and most fans believe he has redeemed himself. At least this one does. Is he my all time favorite hero ever? No.
But, I would rather think about the game and all the other players on the team. Like Joe flacco!
Plus, I'm a much bigger Orioles fan than Ravens fan.
well I think they do have amnesia. not you though.. but in general yah. i got a friend on facebook who is posting stuff about the ravens day and night "FOR RAY!!!!!!!!" and "RAY-VENS!!!!!!" and shit like that
makes me sick.. and I actually tend to like the Ravens but they should have found a way to get rid of Ray Lewis....
Like I said, at best he tried to get in the way of the murder investigation but all signs point to more than that.. read the reports about what happened..it is sickening..
and can you really redeem yourself from something like that? What do you say to that little girl? Hey he redeemed himself from killing your dad.. he donates to charity and talks about God a lot now!
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
You talking to me jerkie? I don't celebrate the Washington football team or ever watch their games...... hate them.. and I'm glad they will one day soon change their name.
But to try to equate a guy involved in killing people..practically disemboweling them only to then be celebrated as a hero... to using a name that is offensive?
Come on. Get real.
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I'm still stunned that Maryland Gov and Grade A hypocrite Martin O'Malley continues to celebrate the career of convicted murder investigation impeder Ray Ray Lewis as if nothing ever happened. Would the Gov be celebrating Ray Ray's career if Lewis impeded a murder investigation in the Old Line State? Of course not.
O'Malley = Gawd awful.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
Not a skins fan at all but I have yet to have one native american come up to me and say something this silly offends them. I am not sure how it can be offensive to have a term used for a sport that involves being strong, brave, courageous, relentless, powerful, etc. If someone wants to be offended, they will always find something to point towards. What is silly is the fact that the DC basketball club changed their name from BULLETS to WIZARDS because BULLET was offensive yet WIZARD is a rank in one of the most vile racist institutions in the history of our country. Kind of puts that whole 'offensive' thing in it's place.
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anyways I had to get that off my chest regarding Ray Lewis cause it really really bugs me but now its done.
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anyways I had to get that off my chest regarding Ray Lewis cause it really really bugs me but now its done.
me too...
atomicfront, you're still a douche! :D
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I hope we see the Niners against either the Ravens or Patriots..
But I think it could be anybody.. I've also noticed that often after a team wins a playoff game in a rout they have a let down the next game.. this could be an issue for both the Patriots and Niners...
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Do you guys have to ruin every thread? If it really bothers you that Ray Lewis is being praised even though he was involved in a murder start a new freaking thread instead of ruining on about the playoffs.
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anyways I had to get that off my chest regarding Ray Lewis cause it really really bugs me but now its done.
me too...
atomicfront, you're still a douche! :D
I am guessing you are just saying that because you are a racist.
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pats vs. 49ers in the 'bowl, and this new england fan isn't hopeful.
Flacco will prove he is best QB in the NFL.
i want whatever you're smoking.
you are trolling.
so, how does it feel? ;D
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anyways I had to get that off my chest regarding Ray Lewis cause it really really bugs me but now its done.
me too...
atomicfront, you're still a douche! :D
I am guessing you are just saying that because you are a racist.
no... because you ruin this board on a daily basis!
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pats vs. 49ers in the 'bowl, and this new england fan isn't hopeful.
Flacco will prove he is best QB in the NFL.
i want whatever you're smoking.
you are trolling.
so, how does it feel? ;D
I'm thinking 49ers/Patriots as well. I'd much rather see B'more (or anyone but the damn Patriots) in/win the SB.
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anyways I had to get that off my chest regarding Ray Lewis cause it really really bugs me but now its done.
me too...
atomicfront, you're still a douche! :D
I am guessing you are just saying that because you are a racist.
no... because you ruin this board on a daily basis!
you are the one. You never answered me about your racist comment about blonde teens from chevy chase. Why do you hate us blonde people?
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anyways I had to get that off my chest regarding Ray Lewis cause it really really bugs me but now its done.
me too...
atomicfront, you're still a douche! :D
I am guessing you are just saying that because you are a racist.
no... because you ruin this board on a daily basis!
you are the one. You never answered me about your racist comment about blonde teens from chevy chase. Why do you hate us blonde people?
start a new thread if you want to discuss this.
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Can't wait 'til next year, after Ray retires. I can feel good about rooting for the Ravens again. Sheesh.
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Boz's take:
"I'm in the second-chance camp on Lewis. How much of his turn-my-life-around image is real? When you maintain that "image" for a lot of years, doesn't that usually make it real?"
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
Oh, what a bunch of bullshit!
THAT MOTHERFUCKER MURDERED PEOPLE AND IS NOW A FUCKING HERO AND THE FACE A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR MACHINE. HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET THAT!? A man murdering people vs an offensive name is a non arguement and proves your idiocy.
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I am amazed at how many of you guys were there, at the scene, when the fight broke out between Ray Lewis and those other guys.
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I mean seriously, what are the odds?
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I mean seriously, what are the odds?
You were there too, right?
If the glove don't fit, you must aquit, I guess.
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I am amazed at how many of you guys were there, at the scene, when the fight broke out between Ray Lewis and those other guys.
exactly.
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I'm not amazed at how little of this thread is about football.
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I made some pretty god damn good points about the Patriots/Ravens games.
Racism and murders severely derailed this thread.
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I am amazed at how many of you guys were there, at the scene, when the fight broke out between Ray Lewis and those other guys.
exactly.
First of all I tried to talk about the game.. but
Give me a break. you're better than that..
Do we need to be there to know these facts:
Following a Super Bowl XXXIV party in Atlanta on January 31, 2000, a fight broke out between Lewis and his companions and another group of people, resulting in the stabbing deaths of Jacinth Baker and Richard Lollar. Lewis and two companions, Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting, were questioned by Atlanta police, and 11 days later the three men were indicted on murder and aggravated-assault charges. The white suit Lewis was wearing the night of the killings has never been found. Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard alleged the blood-stained suit was dumped in a garbage bin outside a fast food restaurant.[36]
Lewis' attorneys, Don Samuel and Ed Garland, of the Atlanta law firm Garland, Samuel & Loeb, negotiated a plea agreement with Howard, where the murder charges against Lewis were dismissed in exchange for his testimony against Oakley and Sweeting, and his guilty plea to a misdemeanor charge of obstruction of justice.[12] Lewis admitted he gave a misleading statement to police on the morning after the killings.
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If it helps you root for them and that is so important to you that is fine- each person has to decide for themselves- just be aware he is a convicted criminal in a double murder case.
And I will not celebrate him as a "hero"... and I'm sorry you think I must just not talk about it and watch..
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I mean seriously, what are the odds?
You were there too, right?
If the glove don't fit, you must aquit, I guess.
"I question whether all of you have the facts"
"YEAH WELL FUCK YOU THATS WHY AND RACISM TOO"
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The facts speak for themselves. At best, Ray Lewis witnessed a homicide then gave false statements to police in order to protect the guilty.
AT BEST.
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The facts speak for themselves. At best, Ray Lewis witnessed a homicide then gave false statements to police in order to protect the guilty.
AT BEST.
But weren't the two guys, that Ray testified against, acquitted? So calling them "the guity" is mistaken AT BEST.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
Oh, what a bunch of bullshit!
THAT MOTHERFUCKER MURDERED PEOPLE AND IS NOW A FUCKING HERO AND THE FACE A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR MACHINE. HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET THAT!? A man murdering people vs an offensive name is a non arguement and proves your idiocy.
How many native americans have been murdered yet you won't even change your team's name??? Please... No one is condoning Ray Lewis's behavior. He was convicted and he didn't have to serve time. There is no way we can go back and convict him of murder. There are laws in place. If you are so concerned about Ray Lewis's victims send some money to their families. I am sure they would be grateful. But as no one on here can do anything about what Ray Lewis did 11 years ago wtf is the point of your stupid outrage?
No one has said Ray Lewis is our hero. I didn't vote for Obama or GW and with all the hundreds of thousands they have killed but guess what i can still cheer for the us olympic team. And neith GW or Obama will even be tried. So take your BS to another thread. I am sure RGIII could kill a whole family of small children and you would be supporting him.
I am a fan of the Ravens. I don't think Ray Lewis is a hero. I don't buy under armour products. I think the team RGIII plays for is highly offensive. As do a lot of other people. Ray Lewis is not Michael Vick. I wouldn't watch the Ravens if Michael Vick played for them. And I don't buy Nike gear.
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The facts speak for themselves. At best, Ray Lewis witnessed a homicide then gave false statements to police in order to protect the guilty.
AT BEST.
But weren't the two guys, that Ray testified against, acquitted? So calling them "the guity" is mistaken AT BEST.
I didn't say they were. But group A and group B get into a fight. Group A speeds away. Leaving two members of group B dead. Nobody is disputing these facts. They just couldn't pin it on anyone specific in group A.
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I mean seriously, what are the odds?
I'm not sure but I would imagine that if anyone knows it would be Pete Rose (http://www.peterosesucks.com)... :)
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But you did! You said "the guilty" in your post. That post right there, in your quote. See it? I see it.
And personally if I got into a fight where stabbings happened, I'd probably speed away too. Oh no, I guess that makes me a murderer.
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A murderer of speed limits
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
Oh, what a bunch of bullshit!
THAT MOTHERFUCKER MURDERED PEOPLE AND IS NOW A FUCKING HERO AND THE FACE A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR MACHINE. HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET THAT!? A man murdering people vs an offensive name is a non arguement and proves your idiocy.
How many native americans have been murdered yet you won't even change your team's name??? Please... No one is condoning Ray Lewis's behavior. He was convicted and he didn't have to serve time. There is no way we can go back and convict him of murder. There are laws in place. If you are so concerned about Ray Lewis's victims send some money to their families. I am sure they would be grateful. But as no one on here can do anything about what Ray Lewis did 11 years ago wtf is the point of your stupid outrage?
No one has said Ray Lewis is our hero. I didn't vote for Obama or GW and with all the hundreds of thousands they have killed but guess what i can still cheer for the us olympic team. And neith GW or Obama will even be tried. So take your BS to another thread. I am sure RGIII could kill a whole family of small children and you would be supporting him.
I am a fan of the Ravens. I don't think Ray Lewis is a hero. I don't buy under armour products. I think the team RGIII plays for is highly offensive. As do a lot of other people. Ray Lewis is not Michael Vick. I wouldn't watch the Ravens if Michael Vick played for them. And I don't buy Nike gear.
Thank you! I just made $50 from betting someone yesterday that within 24 hours someone would bring Vick into this. Vick BTW is someone who paid his debt (served his time), and has taken care of all of his financial/social responsibilities to make restitution. While what he was convicted of his horrific, he has done more for the cause of animal rights than anyone else in society that I know of. Some people just choose to hate because it allows them to feel better about themselves and justify their own life.
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Personally I'd take the points.
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But you did! You said "the guilty" in your post. That post right there, in your quote. See it? I see it.
And personally if I got into a fight where stabbings happened, I'd probably speed away too. Oh no, I guess that makes me a murderer.
It's a very logical conclusion to draw that someone in his party did it. And I've yet to hear anyone anywhere dispute that. They just couldn't pin it on a particular person/people. If there is an alternate theory to that then let me know. But I have no doubt that everyone that piled into that limo knows who did it. Can I prove it? Of course not. Was I there? No. Unless someone gives me some piece of information to think otherwise, it's what I'll continue to believe.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
Oh, what a bunch of bullshit!
THAT MOTHERFUCKER MURDERED PEOPLE AND IS NOW A FUCKING HERO AND THE FACE A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR MACHINE. HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET THAT!? A man murdering people vs an offensive name is a non arguement and proves your idiocy.
How many native americans have been murdered yet you won't even change your team's name??? Please... No one is condoning Ray Lewis's behavior. He was convicted and he didn't have to serve time. There is no way we can go back and convict him of murder. There are laws in place. If you are so concerned about Ray Lewis's victims send some money to their families. I am sure they would be grateful. But as no one on here can do anything about what Ray Lewis did 11 years ago wtf is the point of your stupid outrage?
No one has said Ray Lewis is our hero. I didn't vote for Obama or GW and with all the hundreds of thousands they have killed but guess what i can still cheer for the us olympic team. And neith GW or Obama will even be tried. So take your BS to another thread. I am sure RGIII could kill a whole family of small children and you would be supporting him.
I am a fan of the Ravens. I don't think Ray Lewis is a hero. I don't buy under armour products. I think the team RGIII plays for is highly offensive. As do a lot of other people. Ray Lewis is not Michael Vick. I wouldn't watch the Ravens if Michael Vick played for them. And I don't buy Nike gear.
Thank you! I just made $50 from betting someone yesterday that within 24 hours someone would bring Vick into this. Vick BTW is someone who paid his debt (served his time), and has taken care of all of his financial/social responsibilities to make restitution. While what he was convicted of his horrific, he has done more for the cause of animal rights than anyone else in society that I know of. Some people just choose to hate because it allows them to feel better about themselves and justify their own life.
So, because Ray Lewis was acquitted and therefore served no official jail time, he deserves to be called a murderer forever?
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
Oh, what a bunch of bullshit!
THAT MOTHERFUCKER MURDERED PEOPLE AND IS NOW A FUCKING HERO AND THE FACE A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR MACHINE. HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET THAT!? A man murdering people vs an offensive name is a non arguement and proves your idiocy.
How many native americans have been murdered yet you won't even change your team's name??? Please... No one is condoning Ray Lewis's behavior. He was convicted and he didn't have to serve time. There is no way we can go back and convict him of murder. There are laws in place. If you are so concerned about Ray Lewis's victims send some money to their families. I am sure they would be grateful. But as no one on here can do anything about what Ray Lewis did 11 years ago wtf is the point of your stupid outrage?
No one has said Ray Lewis is our hero. I didn't vote for Obama or GW and with all the hundreds of thousands they have killed but guess what i can still cheer for the us olympic team. And neith GW or Obama will even be tried. So take your BS to another thread. I am sure RGIII could kill a whole family of small children and you would be supporting him.
I am a fan of the Ravens. I don't think Ray Lewis is a hero. I don't buy under armour products. I think the team RGIII plays for is highly offensive. As do a lot of other people. Ray Lewis is not Michael Vick. I wouldn't watch the Ravens if Michael Vick played for them. And I don't buy Nike gear.
Thank you! I just made $50 from betting someone yesterday that within 24 hours someone would bring Vick into this. Vick BTW is someone who paid his debt (served his time), and has taken care of all of his financial/social responsibilities to make restitution. While what he was convicted of his horrific, he has done more for the cause of animal rights than anyone else in society that I know of. Some people just choose to hate because it allows them to feel better about themselves and justify their own life.
So, because Ray Lewis was acquitted and therefore served no official jail time, he deserves to be called a murderer forever?
Uh not sure how you got that out of my reply. I was speaking about the reference to Vick in the previous post and nothing more. I don't give a rat's red ass about Lewis or the Ravens.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
Oh, what a bunch of bullshit!
THAT MOTHERFUCKER MURDERED PEOPLE AND IS NOW A FUCKING HERO AND THE FACE A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR MACHINE. HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET THAT!? A man murdering people vs an offensive name is a non arguement and proves your idiocy.
How many native americans have been murdered yet you won't even change your team's name??? Please... No one is condoning Ray Lewis's behavior. He was convicted and he didn't have to serve time. There is no way we can go back and convict him of murder. There are laws in place. If you are so concerned about Ray Lewis's victims send some money to their families. I am sure they would be grateful. But as no one on here can do anything about what Ray Lewis did 11 years ago wtf is the point of your stupid outrage?
No one has said Ray Lewis is our hero. I didn't vote for Obama or GW and with all the hundreds of thousands they have killed but guess what i can still cheer for the us olympic team. And neith GW or Obama will even be tried. So take your BS to another thread. I am sure RGIII could kill a whole family of small children and you would be supporting him.
I am a fan of the Ravens. I don't think Ray Lewis is a hero. I don't buy under armour products. I think the team RGIII plays for is highly offensive. As do a lot of other people. Ray Lewis is not Michael Vick. I wouldn't watch the Ravens if Michael Vick played for them. And I don't buy Nike gear.
Wait, wait wait wait wait wait wait, no one can do anything about what Ray Lewis did 11 years ago? What about centuries ago?
It's a team name. Nothing is glorified. America just wants to hide the atrocities that they did to these people hundreds of years ago. The team name is from a different time. It stands for tradition and honor. So what? Then we change the team name and then build a statue of a Native American out front of the stadium and people protest that?
Just like time changes so do the meanings of words. Do you think 80,000 people pile into FedeEx Field every tim the Redskins play to glorify what happened? I don't think it crosses anynoes mind. And you can't compare the word "Redskins" to the word "Nigger" so don't even try. Why? Times change. "Nigger" is way more offensive and is still up for debate. If it wasn't for the team name, would anyone really give a shit about the actual word "Redskin"?
Instead of thinking of it so negatively why don't people look at it as honoring an honorable people instead of being a bird or something. A proud, brave people who fought for honor. It's fucking idiotic. Let's move on by being ashamed and trying to erase that from peoples memories. Fuck off. What progress is that? We give words power. If you take that away it's nothing but letters.
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It's a very logical conclusion to draw that someone in his party did it. And I've yet to hear anyone anywhere dispute that. They just couldn't pin it on a particular person/people. If there is an alternate theory to that then let me know. But I have no doubt that everyone that piled into that limo knows who did it. Can I prove it? Of course not. Was I there? No. Unless someone gives me some piece of information to think otherwise, it's what I'll continue to believe.
Well one potential piece of information is that the two guys arrested for murder -- the same friends that Ray Lewis testified against -- were acquitted of murder. By a judge. In a courtroom. (of law)
An alternate theory could be that it happened in self-defense. That does occur, you know. Or that maybe someone else did it. Maybe the two men were secret lovers who couldn't live with their secret shame and used the fight as a perfect opportunity to live forever in death.
But maybe you're right and the judge just let off the guys because he was worried a conviction would disappoint Ray Lewis and the Ravens wouldn't cover the spread on Sunday.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
Oh, what a bunch of bullshit!
THAT MOTHERFUCKER MURDERED PEOPLE AND IS NOW A FUCKING HERO AND THE FACE A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR MACHINE. HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET THAT!? A man murdering people vs an offensive name is a non arguement and proves your idiocy.
How many native americans have been murdered yet you won't even change your team's name??? Please... No one is condoning Ray Lewis's behavior. He was convicted and he didn't have to serve time. There is no way we can go back and convict him of murder. There are laws in place. If you are so concerned about Ray Lewis's victims send some money to their families. I am sure they would be grateful. But as no one on here can do anything about what Ray Lewis did 11 years ago wtf is the point of your stupid outrage?
No one has said Ray Lewis is our hero. I didn't vote for Obama or GW and with all the hundreds of thousands they have killed but guess what i can still cheer for the us olympic team. And neith GW or Obama will even be tried. So take your BS to another thread. I am sure RGIII could kill a whole family of small children and you would be supporting him.
I am a fan of the Ravens. I don't think Ray Lewis is a hero. I don't buy under armour products. I think the team RGIII plays for is highly offensive. As do a lot of other people. Ray Lewis is not Michael Vick. I wouldn't watch the Ravens if Michael Vick played for them. And I don't buy Nike gear.
Thank you! I just made $50 from betting someone yesterday that within 24 hours someone would bring Vick into this. Vick BTW is someone who paid his debt (served his time), and has taken care of all of his financial/social responsibilities to make restitution. While what he was convicted of his horrific, he has done more for the cause of animal rights than anyone else in society that I know of. Some people just choose to hate because it allows them to feel better about themselves and justify their own life.
Michael Vick tortured and killed dogs. He doesn't care about animals. Michael Vick should have never been let back into the nfl. Ray Lewis was acccused of being involved in people being killed in a fight. His level of involvement is not known. Whether it is self defense is not known I was not there. Either were you. From reading the transcripts of the case I can't even understand what happened.
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It's a very logical conclusion to draw that someone in his party did it. And I've yet to hear anyone anywhere dispute that. They just couldn't pin it on a particular person/people. If there is an alternate theory to that then let me know. But I have no doubt that everyone that piled into that limo knows who did it. Can I prove it? Of course not. Was I there? No. Unless someone gives me some piece of information to think otherwise, it's what I'll continue to believe.
Well one potential piece of information is that the two guys arrested for murder -- the same friends that Ray Lewis testified against -- were acquitted of murder. By a judge. In a courtroom. (of law)
An alternate theory could be that it happened in self-defense. That does occur, you know. Or that maybe someone else did it. Maybe the two men were secret lovers who couldn't live with their secret shame and used the fight as a perfect opportunity to live forever in death.
But maybe you're right and the judge just let off the guys because he was worried a conviction would disappoint Ray Lewis and the Ravens wouldn't cover the spread on Sunday.
Let's be honest here...what does your gut tell you? And don't say something like "my gut don't matter the jury says not guilty"....I'm just curious what you think happened here, and how those thoughts lead you to letting Lewis off the hook.
BTW, the gay lover thing, maybe.
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
Oh, what a bunch of bullshit!
THAT MOTHERFUCKER MURDERED PEOPLE AND IS NOW A FUCKING HERO AND THE FACE A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR MACHINE. HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET THAT!? A man murdering people vs an offensive name is a non arguement and proves your idiocy.
How many native americans have been murdered yet you won't even change your team's name??? Please... No one is condoning Ray Lewis's behavior. He was convicted and he didn't have to serve time. There is no way we can go back and convict him of murder. There are laws in place. If you are so concerned about Ray Lewis's victims send some money to their families. I am sure they would be grateful. But as no one on here can do anything about what Ray Lewis did 11 years ago wtf is the point of your stupid outrage?
No one has said Ray Lewis is our hero. I didn't vote for Obama or GW and with all the hundreds of thousands they have killed but guess what i can still cheer for the us olympic team. And neith GW or Obama will even be tried. So take your BS to another thread. I am sure RGIII could kill a whole family of small children and you would be supporting him.
I am a fan of the Ravens. I don't think Ray Lewis is a hero. I don't buy under armour products. I think the team RGIII plays for is highly offensive. As do a lot of other people. Ray Lewis is not Michael Vick. I wouldn't watch the Ravens if Michael Vick played for them. And I don't buy Nike gear.
Wait, wait wait wait wait wait wait, no one can do anything about what Ray Lewis did 11 years ago? What about centuries ago?
It's a team name. Nothing is glorified. America just wants to hide the atrocities that they did to these people hundreds of years ago. The team name is from a different time. It stands for tradition and honor. So what? Then we change the team name and then build a statue of a Native American out front of the stadium and people protest that?
Just like time changes so do the meanings of words. Do you think 80,000 people pile into FedeEx Field every tim the Redskins play to glorify what happened? I don't think it crosses anynoes mind. And you can't compare the word "Redskins" to the word "Nigger" so don't even try. Why? Times change. "Nigger" is way more offensive and is still up for debate. If it wasn't for the team name, would anyone really give a shit about the actual word "Redskin"?
Instead of thinking of it so negatively why don't people look at it as honoring an honorable people instead of being a bird or something. A proud, brave people who fought for honor. It's fucking idiotic. Let's move on by being ashamed and trying to erase that from peoples memories. Fuck off. What progress is that? We give words power. If you take that away it's nothing but letters.
a large part of the native american population finds it offensive. As for the "n' word a lot of rappers use it in their songs. I don't think it is offensive at all. I think a team should be named usinig it. if the people who are saying it is offensive why would you not think it is not offensive. You don't know native americans because the tribes from around here have all been killed off.
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Ok, man. I just don't think it will be changed. I think it's the most idiotic thing. Dan Snyder has done enough to get people to hate him. The name will not change under his watch. So, don't hold your big stupid breath over it.
So, Pats/49ers Super Bowl, who's in?
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I have no idea what happened.
However, to answer your question, if I had to come up with a theory, I'd say he and his entourage were at a club being swaggy and cock-of-the-walk. Some other dudes decided they wanted to mess with the hot-shot athelete. A fight breaks out and in the melee, two of these other dudes are stabbed dead.
I don't think Ray Lewis ever had a knife in his hand. However, he is a professional athlete and realizes "Oh fuck, this is a bad scene, I better split." When questioned by police, he fudges because these are friends of his that weren't necessarily "protecting" him but acting in his interests. Or maybe he genuinely doesn't know who did what. I can't imagine Ray Lewis was intently focusing on the details of the fight. But wanting to protect your buddies shortly after a traumatic event like this isn't out of the realm of possibility and doesn't mean you're a CAPS LOCK MURDERER. It means you made a mistake, and as Ray Lewis was convicted of a misdemeanor, the jury agreed.
And sorry, you can't just say it doesn't matter that the jury acquitted the two guys in Ray Lewis' group. It does matter. The jury heard the facts and said 'Not Guilty'. I think that's a slightly more credible argument than "Well I just pulled these emotions out of my ass and he is GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY"
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I have no idea what happened.
However, to answer your question, if I had to come up with a theory, I'd say he and his entourage were at a club being swaggy and cock-of-the-walk. Some other dudes decided they wanted to mess with the hot-shot athelete. A fight breaks out and in the melee, two of these other dudes are stabbed dead.
I don't think Ray Lewis ever had a knife in his hand. However, he is a professional athlete and realizes "Oh fuck, this is a bad scene, I better split." When questioned by police, he fudges because these are friends of his that weren't necessarily "protecting" him but acting in his interests. Or maybe he genuinely doesn't know who did what. I can't imagine Ray Lewis was intently focusing on the details of the fight. But wanting to protect your buddies shortly after a traumatic event like this isn't out of the realm of possibility and doesn't mean you're a CAPS LOCK MURDERER. It means you made a mistake, and as Ray Lewis was convicted of a misdemeanor, the jury agreed.
And sorry, you can't just say it doesn't matter that the jury acquitted the two guys in Ray Lewis' group. It does matter. The jury heard the facts and said 'Not Guilty'. I think that's a slightly more credible argument than "Well I just pulled these emotions out of my ass and he is GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY"
Well you're the one pulling it out of your ass actually... making shit up...
Did Ray Lewis also happen to lose his suit in the process?
Do you not think its a big deal that he pleaded GUILTY to obstruction of justice in a double murder? Or paid of the two victims' families?
People will believe what they want to believe but dont' go around mentioning the Ravens without expecting backlash.. after all its all about Ray Lewis in this year's playoffs, right?
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I have no idea what happened.
However, to answer your question, if I had to come up with a theory, I'd say he and his entourage were at a club being swaggy and cock-of-the-walk. Some other dudes decided they wanted to mess with the hot-shot athelete. A fight breaks out and in the melee, two of these other dudes are stabbed dead.
I don't think Ray Lewis ever had a knife in his hand. However, he is a professional athlete and realizes "Oh fuck, this is a bad scene, I better split." When questioned by police, he fudges because these are friends of his that weren't necessarily "protecting" him but acting in his interests. Or maybe he genuinely doesn't know who did what. I can't imagine Ray Lewis was intently focusing on the details of the fight. But wanting to protect your buddies shortly after a traumatic event like this isn't out of the realm of possibility and doesn't mean you're a CAPS LOCK MURDERER. It means you made a mistake, and as Ray Lewis was convicted of a misdemeanor, the jury agreed.
And sorry, you can't just say it doesn't matter that the jury acquitted the two guys in Ray Lewis' group. It does matter. The jury heard the facts and said 'Not Guilty'. I think that's a slightly more credible argument than "Well I just pulled these emotions out of my ass and he is GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY"
I'm actually very unemotional about this. I just happen to think that Lewis knows exactly what happened, and then lied about it.
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Jesus Hutch you are such a stupid dickbag. Chaz asked me for my theory on what happened. Which I provided after prefacing it with "I have no idea what happened."
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Yes, let everyone keep bringing up something he was found not guilty of because those in the public are the true judges and know all facts.
A never found suit he wore the night of the murder, a settlement out of court... yeah, that's all the proof I need.
As guilty as OJ.
you are trolling.
It amazes me how Baltimore Ravens fans seem to have amnesia when it comes to Ray Lewis' involvement in murders.
There is a little girl that never met her father because of it.
And then to see Ray Lewis being treated as some sort of hero just makes me sick.
it is amazing how washington nfl fans can celebrates the descrimination of the native population of this country. How many native americans were killed? They tell you that they are highly offended by the name yet you continue to wear their garb and watch their games on tv. I guess it is ok to descriminate against people if they are native americans. After all not many of them around the area with most of them murdered and the straglers put in concentration camps out in the west.
Oh, what a bunch of bullshit!
THAT MOTHERFUCKER MURDERED PEOPLE AND IS NOW A FUCKING HERO AND THE FACE A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR MACHINE. HOW CAN PEOPLE FORGET THAT!? A man murdering people vs an offensive name is a non arguement and proves your idiocy.
How many native americans have been murdered yet you won't even change your team's name??? Please... No one is condoning Ray Lewis's behavior. He was convicted and he didn't have to serve time. There is no way we can go back and convict him of murder. There are laws in place. If you are so concerned about Ray Lewis's victims send some money to their families. I am sure they would be grateful. But as no one on here can do anything about what Ray Lewis did 11 years ago wtf is the point of your stupid outrage?
No one has said Ray Lewis is our hero. I didn't vote for Obama or GW and with all the hundreds of thousands they have killed but guess what i can still cheer for the us olympic team. And neith GW or Obama will even be tried. So take your BS to another thread. I am sure RGIII could kill a whole family of small children and you would be supporting him.
I am a fan of the Ravens. I don't think Ray Lewis is a hero. I don't buy under armour products. I think the team RGIII plays for is highly offensive. As do a lot of other people. Ray Lewis is not Michael Vick. I wouldn't watch the Ravens if Michael Vick played for them. And I don't buy Nike gear.
Thank you! I just made $50 from betting someone yesterday that within 24 hours someone would bring Vick into this. Vick BTW is someone who paid his debt (served his time), and has taken care of all of his financial/social responsibilities to make restitution. While what he was convicted of his horrific, he has done more for the cause of animal rights than anyone else in society that I know of. Some people just choose to hate because it allows them to feel better about themselves and justify their own life.
Michael Vick tortured and killed dogs. He doesn't care about animals. Michael Vick should have never been let back into the nfl. Ray Lewis was acccused of being involved in people being killed in a fight. His level of involvement is not known. Whether it is self defense is not known I was not there. Either were you. From reading the transcripts of the case I can't even understand what happened.
Yep Vick killed dogs and he was was convicted and did his time. He has every right in the world to pursue a living once he got out of prison. In fact being back in the NFL allowed him to take care of all of his financial and social responsibilities. Since getting out, Vick has done far vast amounts of good for animal rights. Not speaking to the Lewis case specifically, it is far more egregious to kill a human than it is to do ANYTHING to an animal. But I did still make $50 today! Woo Hoo. made my day.
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Does anyone really think there's a football team in the NFL that's full of angels?
Heck, even Tom Brady started dating Gisele while his girlfriend (Bridget Moynahan) was pregnant with his child. And he wears Uggs! Everyone gave Britney Spears a lot of crap for doing the same thing (dating/marrying a dude whose GF was pregnant, not the Ugg thing), and yet no one speaks ill of Brady. Obviously not the same scale as dog-fighting or murder/obstruction-of-justice/etc., but the point is, there are no saints in the NFL. (Except in New Orleans, ha ha ha.)
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I see some early front runners for 2013 POTY in this thread.
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1yzeo_tv-funhouse-ray-lewis_fun#.UPR8yifs58s
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talk about a rampant case of "where you stand depends on where you sit." these "debates" (a raven is a murderer, the name redskins is racist) is so disgustingly partisan that... oh. wait. this is the beltway. carry on.
So, Pats/49ers Super Bowl, who's in?
i think SF will MURDER the Pats, unless brady + welker SCALP the 49ers... <just trying to stay on topic>
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Heck, even Tom Brady started dating Gisele while his girlfriend (Bridget Moynahan) was pregnant with his child.
in hopes this this derails this thread into better and more interesting territory: neither tom nor bridget knew that she was pregnant when they split. as far as they both knew, they weren't preggers... so no one got ditched on the steps of the maternity ward.
And he wears Uggs!
as mentioned previously, that part is unforgivable.
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talk about a rampant case of "where you stand depends on where you sit." these "debates" (a raven is a murderer, the name redskins is racist) is so disgustingly partisan that... oh. wait. this is the beltway. carry on.
So, Pats/49ers Super Bowl, who's in?
i think SF will MURDER the Pats, unless brady + welker SCALP the 49ers... <just trying to stay on topic>
I would like to add: Ravens in Conference Championship for second straight year. and 3rd time in the last 5 seasons. Redskins last trip to the conference championship 21 years ago. ouch. But on the bright side you will have good draft picks to help your franchise what you traded them away for a quarteback who has come up lame?
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walky, can you weigh in on this?
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neither tom nor bridget knew that she was pregnant when they split. as far as they both knew, they weren't preggers... so no one got ditched on the steps of the maternity ward.
Who cares about the timing?
Gisele (5'10, 32 years old) is a clear upgrade from Bridget (5'10, 42 years old). Add to the fact that their child might be the greatest thing to happen to the US Men's National Team and there is no faulting him here.
He did this for America.
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What are their times in the 40?
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What are their times in the 40?
OMG, how did I not think of this sooner?! It might have saved Lingerie Bowl X.
The next lingerie bowl should absolutely pit Gisele on one side, Bridget on the other. That would get nasty as all hell.
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How many Injun tribes you got down there in Richmond? I'm betting there are way more rednecks than redskins.
For the record, i've never had a native american come up to me and complain about the name either. Has anybody else here had this happen to them?
Not a skins fan at all but I have yet to have one native american come up to me and say something this silly offends them. I am not sure how it can be offensive to have a term used for a sport that involves being strong, brave, courageous, relentless, powerful, etc. If someone wants to be offended, they will always find something to point towards. What is silly is the fact that the DC basketball club changed their name from BULLETS to WIZARDS because BULLET was offensive yet WIZARD is a rank in one of the most vile racist institutions in the history of our country. Kind of puts that whole 'offensive' thing in it's place.
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The only people objecting to "Redskins" are liberal vanilla women like Sweetcell.
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walky, can you weigh in on this?
Yeah, he is just what we need to bring this thread coherence.
"ray lewis, such a virile beast but whats wrong with dial-up internet, it can be kinda sexy out here in bumfuckville where I live, such as nkotb how often are you shirtless like santa clause?"
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How many Injun tribes you got down there in Richmond? I'm betting there are way more rednecks than redskins.
For the record, i've never had a native american come up to me and complain about the name either. Has anybody else here had this happen to them?
What do native americans say when they come up to you? I'm curious.
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Theyt usually ask for spare change to buy liquor or ask me if I'd like to play a round of blackjack.
How many Injun tribes you got down there in Richmond? I'm betting there are way more rednecks than redskins.
For the record, i've never had a native american come up to me and complain about the name either. Has anybody else here had this happen to them?
What do native americans say when they come up to you? I'm curious.
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walky, can you weigh in on this?
Yeah, he is just what we need to bring this thread coherence.
"ray lewis, such a virile beast but whats wrong with dial-up internet, it can be kinda sexy out here in bumfuckville where I live, such as nkotb how often are you shirtless like santa clause?"
Hahahaha!!!!
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i would like to nominate Relaxer's contributions to this thread as his application for Boardee of the Year award.
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Jesus Hutch you are such a stupid dickbag. Chaz asked me for my theory on what happened. Which I provided after prefacing it with "I have no idea what happened."
oh!
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For what it's worth, from the transcripts (from my friend)
1. The two men who were killed, we're in fact members of a gang
2. The two "Friends" of Ray Lewis who were put on trial were acquitted due to "Reasonable doubt" that they were in fact acting in self defense.
3. The two men who were killed, started the fight, by leaving the club, and then hitting a member of Ray Lewis's group in the head with a champagne bottle.
4. Due to that assault with the bottle, a huge fight started in the street, at which time, multiple witnesses (both in his group and outside his group) stated that Ray was simply telling people to leave and never was physically involve in the fight.
5. Ray Lewis got charged with obstruction of justice because he was not willing to talk to police right away because he was leaving to play in the Pro Bowl the next day, he stated he would return with his lawyer and speak freely on the accounts of that night the next week.
6. Ray Lewis's limo was shot up by a gun, and the person whom is believed to have fired those shots is the same person who started this incident.
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talk about a rampant case of "where you stand depends on where you sit." these "debates" (a raven is a murderer, the name redskins is racist) is so disgustingly partisan that... oh. wait. this is the beltway. carry on.
So, Pats/49ers Super Bowl, who's in?
i think SF will MURDER the Pats, unless brady + welker SCALP the 49ers... <just trying to stay on topic>
I would like to add: Ravens in Conference Championship for second straight year. and 3rd time in the last 5 seasons. Redskins last trip to the conference championship 21 years ago. ouch. But on the bright side you will have good draft picks to help your franchise what you traded them away for a quarteback who has come up lame?
Yeah, we traded away draft picks for a potential Rookie Of The Year and a first time Pro Bowl Rookie Quarterback.... Totally lame.
If Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson had played at RG3''s level all season, their seasons would have been different.
I just don't see the Ravens stopping that Pats offense at all. Would love to see the juggernauts of 9ers and Pats go head to head. I think they're the 2 best teams.
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talk about a rampant case of "where you stand depends on where you sit." these "debates" (a raven is a murderer, the name redskins is racist) is so disgustingly partisan that... oh. wait. this is the beltway. carry on.
So, Pats/49ers Super Bowl, who's in?
i think SF will MURDER the Pats, unless brady + welker SCALP the 49ers... <just trying to stay on topic>
I would like to add: Ravens in Conference Championship for second straight year. and 3rd time in the last 5 seasons. Redskins last trip to the conference championship 21 years ago. ouch. But on the bright side you will have good draft picks to help your franchise what you traded them away for a quarteback who has come up lame?
Yeah, we traded away draft picks for a potential Rookie Of The Year and a first time Pro Bowl Rookie Quarterback.... Totally lame.
If Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson had played at RG3''s level all season, their seasons would have been different.
I just don't see the Ravens stopping that Pats offense at all. Would love to see the juggernauts of 9ers and Pats go head to head. I think they're the 2 best teams.
"We" you play for the Landover, MD based football team that has Washington in it's name??? Yeah they traded away their future for a guy who has a bad knee. I wonder how many more years it will be before you make it to the NFL Championship. Landdover MD's nfl team are going to become the Wizards of Football.
As for the Patriots the Ravens beat them this year. Would have beat them last year if not for Lee Evans dropping a ball and then Cundiff missing a chip shot. But you know that is why they play the game. No one thought the lowly Seahawks could beat the Landover, MD NFL team.
And it must suck for DC and Virginia to not have football teams and Maryland to have two.
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I would like to add: Ravens in Conference Championship for second straight year. and 3rd time in the last 5 seasons
I'm not a Ravens hater. In fact, I pull for Bmore when they're in the spotlight. But for fuck's sake, if you guys are in the conf title game so often, maybe you'll actually, you know, win it for once?
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I find it funny that the people from DC have such low self-esteem that they have to attack the Ravens. Us Baltimoreans were always respectful to the team in Landover. Until this thread and the attacks of the Ravens character. I hope RGIII never plays another game in the NFL and the Landover team has 20 straight losing seasons.
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I would like to add: Ravens in Conference Championship for second straight year. and 3rd time in the last 5 seasons
I'm not a Ravens hater. In fact, I pull for Bmore when they're in the spotlight. But for fuck's sake, if you guys are in the conf title game so often, maybe you'll actually, you know, win it for once?
yeah when is the last time a team from DC even made the conference championship? I am guessing you would be thrilled to have a dc team in a conference championship. I know I would be thrilled if the Capitals could ever make it past the second round.
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"We're #2! We're #2"
-Ravens fan, and no one else
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"We're #2! We're #2"
-Ravens fan, and no one else
Whatever we are still playing exciting football. I guess Landover fans prefer not winning any playoff games and instead worrying about their only players knee while we will be drinking beer wtih friends in bars with friends while enjoying the game on sunday night.
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I would like to add: Ravens in Conference Championship for second straight year. and 3rd time in the last 5 seasons
I'm not a Ravens hater. In fact, I pull for Bmore when they're in the spotlight. But for fuck's sake, if you guys are in the conf title game so often, maybe you'll actually, you know, win it for once?
If I could think of a way to help make that happen I would certainly do it.
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I find it funny that the people from DC have such low self-esteem that they have to attack the Ravens. Us Baltimoreans were always respectful to the team in Landover. Until this thread and the attacks of the Ravens character. I hope RGIII never plays another game in the NFL and the Landover team has 20 straight losing seasons.
LOL - you are kidding right? I know so many Ravens fans that HATE the Redskins - many of them believe the Redskins were blocking Baltimore from having a team for many years (sort of like Orioles/Nationals in reverse)
My buddy is a ravens + redskins fan - he was hearing his redskins jersey and as we were pulling into a gas station, a guy drove up in a truck, wearing a ravens jersey and starting going crazy on my friend - giving him the finger and yelling insults.
this thread is dumb as shit...but lets be honest, the majority of football fans in every city are the shitstains of humanity.
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What did he hear his redskins jersey say? Was it chanting RG3?
I find it funny that the people from DC have such low self-esteem that they have to attack the Ravens. Us Baltimoreans were always respectful to the team in Landover. Until this thread and the attacks of the Ravens character. I hope RGIII never plays another game in the NFL and the Landover team has 20 straight losing seasons.
LOL - you are kidding right? I know so many Ravens fans that HATE the Redskins - many of them believe the Redskins were blocking Baltimore from having a team for many years (sort of like Orioles/Nationals in reverse)
My buddy is a ravens + redskins fan - he was hearing his redskins jersey and as we were pulling into a gas station, a guy drove up in a truck, wearing a ravens jersey and starting going crazy on my friend - giving him the finger and yelling insults.
this thread is dumb as shit...but lets be honest, the majority of football fans in every city are the shitstains of humanity.
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this thread is dumb as shit...
no.
it's much dumber.
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here are some thoughts about the Ray Lewis verdict from a Baltimore Sun reporter that was actually at the trial
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-rodricks-0115-20130114,0,1074931.column
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lets be honest, the majority of football fans in every city are the shitstains of humanity.
I like that one.. mind if I borrow it?
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talk about a rampant case of "where you stand depends on where you sit." these "debates" (a raven is a murderer, the name redskins is racist) is so disgustingly partisan that... oh. wait. this is the beltway. carry on.
So, Pats/49ers Super Bowl, who's in?
i think SF will MURDER the Pats, unless brady + welker SCALP the 49ers... <just trying to stay on topic>
I would like to add: Ravens in Conference Championship for second straight year. and 3rd time in the last 5 seasons. Redskins last trip to the conference championship 21 years ago. ouch. But on the bright side you will have good draft picks to help your franchise what you traded them away for a quarteback who has come up lame?
Yeah, we traded away draft picks for a potential Rookie Of The Year and a first time Pro Bowl Rookie Quarterback.... Totally lame.
If Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson had played at RG3''s level all season, their seasons would have been different.
I just don't see the Ravens stopping that Pats offense at all. Would love to see the juggernauts of 9ers and Pats go head to head. I think they're the 2 best teams.
"We" you play for the Landover, MD based football team that has Washington in it's name??? Yeah they traded away their future for a guy who has a bad knee. I wonder how many more years it will be before you make it to the NFL Championship. Landdover MD's nfl team are going to become the Wizards of Football.
As for the Patriots the Ravens beat them this year. Would have beat them last year if not for Lee Evans dropping a ball and then Cundiff missing a chip shot. But you know that is why they play the game. No one thought the lowly Seahawks could beat the Landover, MD NFL team.
And it must suck for DC and Virginia to not have football teams and Maryland to have two.
So, the Dallas Cowboys shouldn't be called the Dallas Cowboys because they play in Arlington? Is that what you're saying? Or maybe the New York Giants should be called the New Jersey Giants because they play in New Jersey? You're a fucking idiot.
Yeah, we're the Wizards of the NFL because we just won 10 games and won the division and went to the playoffs. Do you know who the Washington Wizards even are?
Who said the Seahawks were lowly? They were favored and almost every football pundit picked the Seahawks to win that game. They were the only road team favored to win. So, maybe know less about what you're talking about next time you make any fucking arguement.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda, Patriots make it to the Super Bowl last year. I guess Lady Luck just wasn't on the Ravens side? Last year isn't this year, if you seriously think the Ravens can stop all those weapons the Patriots have you're high and that's fine. I also didn't think they could stop the Colts or the Broncos, obviously I was wrong. I don't want the Ravens to lose, I just don't think they match up well on defense. They can't stop the run and the Pats have 3 stellar running and receiving backs.
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here are some thoughts about the Ray Lewis verdict from a Baltimore Sun reporter that was actually at the trial
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-rodricks-0115-20130114,0,1074931.column
WE could go all week on this and never resolve it.. I hardly think the local Baltimore paper is credible... I mean what are they going to say?
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talk about a rampant case of "where you stand depends on where you sit." these "debates" (a raven is a murderer, the name redskins is racist) is so disgustingly partisan that... oh. wait. this is the beltway. carry on.
So, Pats/49ers Super Bowl, who's in?
i think SF will MURDER the Pats, unless brady + welker SCALP the 49ers... <just trying to stay on topic>
I would like to add: Ravens in Conference Championship for second straight year. and 3rd time in the last 5 seasons. Redskins last trip to the conference championship 21 years ago. ouch. But on the bright side you will have good draft picks to help your franchise what you traded them away for a quarteback who has come up lame?
Yeah, we traded away draft picks for a potential Rookie Of The Year and a first time Pro Bowl Rookie Quarterback.... Totally lame.
If Colin Kaepernick and Russell Wilson had played at RG3''s level all season, their seasons would have been different.
I just don't see the Ravens stopping that Pats offense at all. Would love to see the juggernauts of 9ers and Pats go head to head. I think they're the 2 best teams.
"We" you play for the Landover, MD based football team that has Washington in it's name??? Yeah they traded away their future for a guy who has a bad knee. I wonder how many more years it will be before you make it to the NFL Championship. Landdover MD's nfl team are going to become the Wizards of Football.
As for the Patriots the Ravens beat them this year. Would have beat them last year if not for Lee Evans dropping a ball and then Cundiff missing a chip shot. But you know that is why they play the game. No one thought the lowly Seahawks could beat the Landover, MD NFL team.
And it must suck for DC and Virginia to not have football teams and Maryland to have two.
So, the Dallas Cowboys shouldn't be called the Dallas Cowboys because they play in Arlington? Is that what you're saying? Or maybe the New York Giants should be called the New Jersey Giants because they play in New Jersey? You're a fucking idiot.
Yeah, we're the Wizards of the NFL because we just won 10 games and won the division and went to the playoffs. Do you know who the Washington Wizards even are?
Who said the Seahawks were lowly? They were favored and almost every football pundit picked the Seahawks to win that game. They were the only road team favored to win. So, maybe know less about what you're talking about next time you make any fucking arguement.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda, Patriots make it to the Super Bowl last year. I guess Lady Luck just wasn't on the Ravens side? Last year isn't this year, if you seriously think the Ravens can stop all those weapons the Patriots have you're high and that's fine. I also didn't think they could stop the Colts or the Broncos, obviously I was wrong. I don't want the Ravens to lose, I just don't think they match up well on defense. They can't stop the run and the Pats have 3 stellar running and receiving backs.
yeah they should call them the new jersey giants. They don't call the devils the New York Devils. I guess people are idiots. You can call their team the New York Giants and New Yorkers root for them and you call another team the New Jersey Devils and New Yorkers dont' root for them even though they play in the same place.
So yeah landover nfl team is what I call them.
Who cares who you think is going to win on Sunday? The game will be decided on the field. I am sure it will be a close game like the previous patirot/ravens games have been.
And the Landover nfl team and the wizards have both only one playoff round during the last 12 years. Though the wizards have been in the playoffs more. two sucky teams.
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here are some thoughts about the Ray Lewis verdict from a Baltimore Sun reporter that was actually at the trial
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-rodricks-0115-20130114,0,1074931.column
WE could go all week on this and never resolve it.. I hardly think the local Baltimore paper is credible... I mean what are they going to say?
Of course we can't resolve it. We weren't there. The prosecution were complete idiots and let the defense lead the trial so there is nothing to be gained by reading the transcript. So none of us knows what really happened.
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You're "sure it's going to be a close game"? Lol, bro, "who cares who do you think is going to win on Sunday? The game will be decided on the field."
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here are some thoughts about the Ray Lewis verdict from a Baltimore Sun reporter that was actually at the trial
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-rodricks-0115-20130114,0,1074931.column
WE could go all week on this and never resolve it.. I hardly think the local Baltimore paper is credible... I mean what are they going to say?
Seriously? Because the paper is called the Baltimore Sun it's not credible reporting on something involving a Baltimore sports figure? Do you feel the same way about the RG3 stories in the Post?
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here are some thoughts about the Ray Lewis verdict from a Baltimore Sun reporter that was actually at the trial
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-rodricks-0115-20130114,0,1074931.column
WE could go all week on this and never resolve it.. I hardly think the local Baltimore paper is credible... I mean what are they going to say?
Seriously? Because the paper is called the Baltimore Sun it's not credible reporting on something involving a Baltimore sports figure? Do you feel the same way about the RG3 stories in the Post?
Definitely. I do.
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so I'm hoping Niners/Patriots...
I guess this is the match up most people want to see? ALthough there are some real Brady haters I guess...
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I would like to, Ravens defense has too many holes in it. 9ers abused the option play on Saturday and killed the Packers. Ravens already saw the option against the Skins this year and ended up losing, granted it was a close game, but they did knock out RG3 and Kirk Cousins came in and took care of the rest. I think the 9ers are more dangerous and the Ravens would probably lose to the 9ers.
I honestly think Ravens/Falcons would be fairly even matched and a good game, same as Pats/9ers. If it's mixed and matched, I think it will be one sided.
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but they did knock out RG3 and Kirk Cousins came in and took care of the rest.
By saying Cousins coming in and taking care of the rest, you mean the atrocious out of bounds call that un-iced the Ravens win and gave the Skins a miracle chance to come back and win, right?
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I would like to, Ravens defense has too many holes in it. 9ers abused the option play on Saturday and killed the Packers. Ravens already saw the option against the Skins this year and ended up losing, granted it was a close game, but they did knock out RG3 and Kirk Cousins came in and took care of the rest. I think the 9ers are more dangerous and the Ravens would probably lose to the 9ers.
I honestly think Ravens/Falcons would be fairly even matched and a good game, same as Pats/9ers. If it's mixed and matched, I think it will be one sided.
So if the Ravens win yet again on Sunday you are still going to predict they will lose to the 49ers even though you predicted them to lose 3 times in a row and were wrong. I mean even at this point you have shown no ability to predict any of the games. Why do you continue to show your ignorance?
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Recent Ravens / Pats games have been close. No reason to think this one will be any different. I think both defenses are suspect, although the Ravens have been playing better lately. Flacco's going to need to play as well as he did in last year's championship game. They'll need to put a bunch of points on the board.
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so I'm hoping Niners/Patriots...
I guess this is the match up most people want to see? ALthough there are some real Brady haters I guess...
i know some brady haters who want to see him lose again.
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so I'm hoping Niners/Patriots...
I guess this is the match up most people want to see? ALthough there are some real Brady haters I guess...
i know some brady haters who want to see him lose again.
lose the Super Bowl you mean?
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but they did knock out RG3 and Kirk Cousins came in and took care of the rest.
By saying Cousins coming in and taking care of the rest, you mean the atrocious out of bounds call that un-iced the Ravens win and gave the Skins a miracle chance to come back and win, right?
Damn straight
@atomicfront: Ravens haven't won yet you mouth breather. Did I say the Ravens WILL lose? I said THEY WILL HAVE A TOUGH TIME STOPPING THE PATS OFFENSE. Learn to read you fuck. I can't stress this enough, the Ravens defense WILL HAVE. A TOUGH TIME. STOPPING THE PATRIOTS OFFENSE. Did I say they can't? Nope. They will have a tough time, just like the Patriots will have a tough time against Ray Rice. If the Ravens become one dimensional, I see it being even tougher for the Ravens offense. So, yeah, I must be real ignorant to look at both sides of the statement.
Looking forward to the Pats/Ravens game more, I just don't think the Falcons have a chance. Even if they are at home.... If they lose, will people still think of them as chokers? Then the arguement is "Well, they've only won ONE playoff game". Poor Falcons.
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It will be a close game. Ravens have to get into Tom Brady's head. That is difficult to do. They should have won last year, and this game should be just as much of a nailbiter.
Which will hopefully end in a Ravens win!
I'm just glad it's not the Manning/Brady game Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison were "so looking forward to" when the playoffs began. Cannot wait to see them eat their words.
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who gives a rats ass about this stuff anyway cause hockey starts on Saturday!!!!
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wasn't hockey gone for like ten years . . . and nobody cared? the nfl gets rid of the officials for five minutes, and the world almost stopped.
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lose the Super Bowl you mean?
yeah. i don't want to see it, but some do... meanies.
who gives a rats ass about this stuff anyway cause hockey starts on Saturday!!!!
both are important to me, but WOOHOO FOR HOCKEY!!! (let's take the talk over here (http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=5675.new#new))
wasn't hockey gone for like ten years
what are you going on about?
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Jinx anyone?
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You know, I was thinking last night, the Redskins have beat the last couple of Super Bowl winners.... Maybe the Ravens do win this year. *shrug*
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The Ravens are the only team left!
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I believe the Ravens were the ONLY team in the playoffs the Redskins had faced and beaten. They lost to the Bengals and the Falcons...
So, take that as a good omen. You're welcome.
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How many Injun tribes you got down there in Richmond? I'm betting there are way more rednecks than redskins.
For the record, i've never had a native american come up to me and complain about the name either. Has anybody else here had this happen to them?
Not a skins fan at all but I have yet to have one native american come up to me and say something this silly offends them. I am not sure how it can be offensive to have a term used for a sport that involves being strong, brave, courageous, relentless, powerful, etc. If someone wants to be offended, they will always find something to point towards. What is silly is the fact that the DC basketball club changed their name from BULLETS to WIZARDS because BULLET was offensive yet WIZARD is a rank in one of the most vile racist institutions in the history of our country. Kind of puts that whole 'offensive' thing in it's place.
Actually I know quite a few people who are of native american descent. Not one of them have an issue with the name redskins for the DC football team. As is usually the case in these "I am offended" matters, it is folks who not of the supposedly offended group who start the issue and fan the flames. I think it probably more of an issue with them trying to cover up their own issues of racism or other inadequacies.
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Wow that's powerful because I'm sure all of your few native american friends feel comfortable really opening up to you about their feelings about their heritage.
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Wow that's powerful because I'm sure all of your few native american friends feel comfortable really opening up to you about their feelings about their heritage.
many of them have had rather in depth discussions with me about such things. Thanks for asking. :)
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i love indians. native americans really are the best, and i wish there was still a large mass of land on our planet where there was nothing but native americans altering the life of this planet instead of the way we destrroy it. how sad. and i think if there was a mass of land with native americans living there . . . they would not care about the redskins.
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Wow that's powerful because I'm sure all of your few native american friends feel comfortable really opening up to you about their feelings about their heritage.
many of them have had rather in depth discussions with me about such things. Thanks for asking. :)
I could see that.. you come off as a reasonable and tolerant person.. the type of person one would open up to and engage in constructive discussion with.. much like we do on this board.... I notice you are a good listener and often times willing to admit you're wrong on an issue.. your evolution on President Obama or "Bammy" as you used to call him back when you were insulting him left and right everywhere is a credit to you.
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Wow that's powerful because I'm sure all of your few native american friends feel comfortable really opening up to you about their feelings about their heritage.
many of them have had rather in depth discussions with me about such things. Thanks for asking. :)
I could see that.. you come off as a reasonable and tolerant person.. the type of person one would open up to and engage in constructive discussion with.. much like we do on this board.... I notice you are a good listener and often times willing to admit you're wrong on an issue.. your evolution on President Obama or "Bammy" as you used to call him back when you were insulting him left and right everywhere is a credit to you.
Just so you can keep your warm and fuzzy feeling. Bammy is still Bammy.
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Holy shit. Props to the Ravens for kicking the Pats in the mouth.
Is it illegal for sportscasters to say that Brady sucks? He looked terrible today.
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The Ravens knocked the will out of the soft Pats.
Guess they weren't flushed after all.
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RAVENS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bill Belichick declined to be interviewed after the game like the sore loser that he is.
Such a great day today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Holy shit. Props to the Ravens for kicking the Pats in the mouth.
Is it illegal for sportscasters to say that Brady sucks? He looked terrible today.
Tom Brady was doing VERY un-Tom Brady things, was super surprised that he would be the one to cost the Pats the game.
Does his legacy change? People were saying with Peyton being knocked out last week that he doesn't even compare to Brady. But now it's been year after year of post season disappointments for the Pats. Any who, congrats to both teams. I officially don't care about the Super Bowl!
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Superbowl!!!!!
Even with the officials on their side the Patriots get beaten down badly.
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Holy shit. Props to the Ravens for kicking the Pats in the mouth.
Is it illegal for sportscasters to say that Brady sucks? He looked terrible today.
Tom Brady was doing VERY un-Tom Brady things, was super surprised that he would be the one to cost the Pats the game.
Does his legacy change? People were saying with Peyton being knocked out last week that he doesn't even compare to Brady. But now it's been year after year of post season disappointments for the Pats. Any who, congrats to both teams. I officially don't care about the Super Bowl!
I don't think Brady's legacy is damaged. Peyton only has 9 playoff victories. Flacco already has 8. Brady has been to 5 superbowls winning 3. Brady just isn't very good against the Ravens. Even in their undefeated regular season they were only able to beat the Ravens in the last few seconds and the Ravens only had 5 wins that season.
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At the very least he deserved a yellow card for this:
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^^^^^ My buddy, Ravens fan, was saying they would have had a parade if Flacco grew some balls and did shit like that. I didn't think it was bad when it happened live, looked totally normal, but that replay was a joke. Aren't there officials right on the goaline who could have clearly seen that?
Actually, at the begining of the GIF you see the ref moving out of the way lol.
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They need to stop calling a flag on the defensive player when the offensive player lowers his head and hits the defensive player head to head. That should be called on the offensive player.
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Exactly. Stevan Ridley knocked himself out of the game yesterday. He hit Pollard! Ridiculous.
The refs love Brady and will never call him on the crap he pulls, like that blatant hit on Reed. I'm just glad that the Ravens didn't let it get to them and instead DOMINATED.
Bilichick is the sorest loser in all of sports.
Gosh I am so glad the Ravens won. I despise the Patriots.
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They need to stop calling a flag on the defensive player when the offensive player lowers his head and hits the defensive player head to head. That should be called on the offensive player.
yup. aaron hernandez catches it over the middle, and immediately lowers shoulder/head. ray lewis is in his tackling motion, aiming for chest/torso level, but aaron shifts his position to make his head where his chest was. 15 yard penalty? makes no sense.
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I am reading all of this silliness on the flight home from NE
If Ray was your player you wouldn't give a shit
And you would be happy to be joining me in New Orleans
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I didn't like Albert Haynesworth because I thought he was a piece of shit and I also think Ray Lewis is a piece of shit, so, even if he was on my team and a beast, I would still think he's a piece of shit. Good riddance. I get the emotions are pretty high, but God damn, that dude cries all the time.
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I didn't like Albert Haynesworth because I thought he was a piece of shit and I also think Ray Lewis is a piece of shit, so, even if he was on my team and a beast, I would still think he's a piece of shit. Good riddance. I get the emotions are pretty high, but God damn, that dude cries all the time.
Comparing haynesworth to ray lewis is comical. Why would any redskins fan like him? He did nothing on the field for the team or off it. Ray lewis is arguably the greatest defensive player to play the game, a great leader, and the face of franchis. The redskins never have a player like ray but at least you could of picked someone like daryl green not to like. This might be the dumbest post I have ever read
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I didn't like Albert Haynesworth because I thought he was a piece of shit and I also think Ray Lewis is a piece of shit, so, even if he was on my team and a beast, I would still think he's a piece of shit. Good riddance. I get the emotions are pretty high, but God damn, that dude cries all the time.
Comparing haynesworth to ray lewis is comical. Why would any redskins fan like him? He did nothing on the field for the team or off it. Ray lewis is arguably the greatest defensive player to play the game, a great leader, and the face of franchis. The redskins never have a player like ray but at least you could of picked someone like daryl green not to like. This might be the dumbest post I have ever read
Probably the greatest active player on defense. Most likely in the top 20 maybe top 10 all time.
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So much for the SI cover jinx. Both teams won.
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Ray lewis is arguably the greatest defensive player to play the game, a great leader, and the face of franchis. The redskins never have a player like ray
there's a lot of ridiculousness in this thread that i have no interest in discussing, but if you really believe this statement you should look up a comparison of the career stats of ray lewis and london fletcher. two incredible athletes with very similar numbers, but one gets a lot more recognition for it than the other. i'd say they are both pretty damn impressive.
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I didn't like Albert Haynesworth because I thought he was a piece of shit and I also think Ray Lewis is a piece of shit, so, even if he was on my team and a beast, I would still think he's a piece of shit. Good riddance. I get the emotions are pretty high, but God damn, that dude cries all the time.
Comparing haynesworth to ray lewis is comical. Why would any redskins fan like him? He did nothing on the field for the team or off it. Ray lewis is arguably the greatest defensive player to play the game, a great leader, and the face of franchis. The redskins never have a player like ray but at least you could of picked someone like daryl green not to like. This might be the dumbest post I have ever read
My point was that I didn't like Albert Haynesworth and Ray Lewis did much MUCH worse shit than he did.
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Ray lewis is arguably the greatest defensive player to play the game, a great leader, and the face of franchis. The redskins never have a player like ray
there's a lot of ridiculousness in this thread that i have no interest in discussing, but if you really believe this statement you should look up a comparison of the career stats of ray lewis and london fletcher. two incredible athletes with very similar numbers, but one gets a lot more recognition for it than the other. i'd say they are both pretty damn impressive.
London has lead every team he's played on in tackles for his entire career. I think he's about 935 years old too.
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didn't ray lewis kill someone in atlanta many years ago?
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I didn't like Albert Haynesworth because I thought he was a piece of shit and I also think Ray Lewis is a piece of shit, so, even if he was on my team and a beast, I would still think he's a piece of shit. Good riddance. I get the emotions are pretty high, but God damn, that dude cries all the time.
Comparing haynesworth to ray lewis is comical. Why would any redskins fan like him? He did nothing on the field for the team or off it. Ray lewis is arguably the greatest defensive player to play the game, a great leader, and the face of franchis. The redskins never have a player like ray but at least you could of picked someone like daryl green not to like. This might be the dumbest post I have ever read
My point was that I didn't like Albert Haynesworth and Ray Lewis did much MUCH worse shit than he did.
well the point doesn't make sense. Of course you don't like haynesworth. Why would you like him?
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didn't ray lewis kill someone in atlanta many years ago?
Thanks for your input.
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Ray lewis is arguably the greatest defensive player to play the game, a great leader, and the face of franchis. The redskins never have a player like ray
there's a lot of ridiculousness in this thread that i have no interest in discussing, but if you really believe this statement you should look up a comparison of the career stats of ray lewis and london fletcher. two incredible athletes with very similar numbers, but one gets a lot more recognition for it than the other. i'd say they are both pretty damn impressive.
Fletcher? He hasn't even been first team all pro in his career. Ray Lewis was defensive player of the year twice, 7 time first team all pro.
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Anyway thanks Redskins fans for trying to ruin this thread. But guess what we are going to the superbowl and you guys can't even win a playoff game.
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I didn't like Albert Haynesworth because I thought he was a piece of shit and I also think Ray Lewis is a piece of shit, so, even if he was on my team and a beast, I would still think he's a piece of shit. Good riddance. I get the emotions are pretty high, but God damn, that dude cries all the time.
Comparing haynesworth to ray lewis is comical. Why would any redskins fan like him? He did nothing on the field for the team or off it. Ray lewis is arguably the greatest defensive player to play the game, a great leader, and the face of franchis. The redskins never have a player like ray but at least you could of picked someone like daryl green not to like. This might be the dumbest post I have ever read
My point was that I didn't like Albert Haynesworth and Ray Lewis did much MUCH worse shit than he did.
well the point doesn't make sense. Of course you don't like haynesworth. Why would you like him?
Exactly, you dunce. So, why would I like a murderer? Are you NOW getting my point? I didn't like Haynesworth's conduct off the field, why would I EVER condone Ray Lewis' if he was on my team? I can't wait for your response.
Also Lond Fletcher was named an alternate 11 years in a row before making the first team in 2010. I guess that makes him a shitty lineback that isn't on par with Ray Lewis...? I get that he made more first teams than London, but you can't say Londo sucks lol. Come on.
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I didn't like Albert Haynesworth because I thought he was a piece of shit and I also think Ray Lewis is a piece of shit, so, even if he was on my team and a beast, I would still think he's a piece of shit. Good riddance. I get the emotions are pretty high, but God damn, that dude cries all the time.
Comparing haynesworth to ray lewis is comical. Why would any redskins fan like him? He did nothing on the field for the team or off it. Ray lewis is arguably the greatest defensive player to play the game, a great leader, and the face of franchis. The redskins never have a player like ray but at least you could of picked someone like daryl green not to like. This might be the dumbest post I have ever read
My point was that I didn't like Albert Haynesworth and Ray Lewis did much MUCH worse shit than he did.
well the point doesn't make sense. Of course you don't like haynesworth. Why would you like him?
Exactly, you dunce. So, why would I like a murderer? Are you NOW getting my point? I didn't like Haynesworth's conduct off the field, why would I EVER condone Ray Lewis' if he was on my team? I can't wait for your response.
Also Lond Fletcher was named an alternate 11 years in a row before making the first team in 2010. I guess that makes him a shitty lineback that isn't on par with Ray Lewis...? I get that he made more first teams than London, but you can't say Londo sucks lol. Come on.
There is no alternate all pro. What the heck are you talking about?
Are you so dense that you can understand what it means to say you would love ray lewis if he were on your team? I don't know how any could be so stupid to not understand that statement. You wouldn't have liked haynesworth if he were a model citizen off the field. You don't like him because he was the worst free agency signing in nfl history. Ray Lewis is the best defensive player in league history and is the leader of the team and has played his entire career with the ravens.
how hard is it for you to figure out how to properly respond to this. You have to come back with the best player in your teams history who was also the team leader. You don't have a player of Ray Lewis's caliber in you team history but you could at least have picked someone who had some sort of success on the field. For example Tom Brady, Walter Peyton, Dick Butkus are Ray Lewis comparables. not some schmuck who signed for 100 million and didn't even play.
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your teams future
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well this thread is fun.
SF is gonna stomp baltimore, so get your fun in now Ravens fans.
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well this thread is fun.
SF is gonna stomp baltimore, so get your fun in now Ravens fans.
Keep calling for a Ravens loss. You're bound to be right one day.
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I wouldn't count the Ravens out... I really thought the 9ers would stomp the Falcons. They let the Sewhawks AND the 9ers come back after being up 20 and 17. Think it should be a fun game to watch. I wish it could end in a tie, for my sake. Too many family members root for the 9ers and the Ravens. Ugh. Joe Flacco seems to be getting into a groove as well...
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well this thread is fun.
SF is gonna stomp baltimore, so get your fun in now Ravens fans.
Keep calling for a Ravens loss. You're bound to be right one day.
this reminds me of a thought I had last night. why do they always predict who is going to win the game on the pre-game program? And they are adamant about and quite frequently completely wrong. Why do I care who some guy thinks is going to win the game? Why does Steve Wizzle think I care who he thinks will win the game? they play the games.. your opinion of whom is going to win won't effect the outcome.
anyway i am super excited about the ravens being in the super bowl. I wish you fans of other teams knew how good it felt. win or lose we still made it to the last game of the year.
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well this thread is fun.
SF is gonna stomp baltimore, so get your fun in now Ravens fans.
Keep calling for a Ravens loss. You're bound to be right one day.
this reminds me of a thought I had last night. why do they always predict who is going to win the game on the pre-game program? And they are adamant about and quite frequently completely wrong. Why do I care who some guy thinks is going to win the game? Why does Steve Wizzle think I care who he thinks will win the game? they play the games.. your opinion of whom is going to win won't effect the outcome.
anyway i am super excited about the ravens being in the super bowl. I wish you fans of other teams knew how good it felt. win or lose we still made it to the last game of the year.
Especially after how the season ended last year. Did you see the Patriots messed with the clock again yesterday? cheaters never win.
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well this thread is fun.
SF is gonna stomp baltimore, so get your fun in now Ravens fans.
Keep calling for a Ravens loss. You're bound to be right one day.
this is the first time i've called for a ravens loss? i just think SF is way too good of a team. kaepernick plays way too fast for baltimore's smash-mouth defense.
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this reminds me of a thought I had last night. why do they always predict who is going to win the game on the pre-game program? And they are adamant about and quite frequently completely wrong. Why do I care who some guy thinks is going to win the game? Why does Steve Wizzle think I care who he thinks will win the game? they play the games.. your opinion of whom is going to win won't effect the outcome.
you got me. as i was writing the post i said to myself "gosh, i can't wait until atomicfront sees what i think".
also, brilliant analysis pointing out that my opinion will indeed not effect the outcome. to everyone who believed that my opinion would effect the outcome of the super bowl, i'm deeply sorry for misleading you.
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this reminds me of a thought I had last night. why do they always predict who is going to win the game on the pre-game program? And they are adamant about and quite frequently completely wrong. Why do I care who some guy thinks is going to win the game? Why does Steve Wizzle think I care who he thinks will win the game? they play the games.. your opinion of whom is going to win won't effect the outcome.
you got me. as i was writing the post i said to myself "gosh, i can't wait until atomicfront sees what i think".
also, brilliant analysis pointing out that my opinion will indeed not effect the outcome. to everyone who believed that my opinion would effect the outcome of the super bowl, i'm deeply sorry for misleading you.
no one cares about your opinion on who will win the game.
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no one cares about your opinion on who will win the game.
this, coming from the scatterbrain who writes 5,000 word opinions on seemingly every thread on this board with no self awareness or real solid understanding of any given topic, truly hits me hard.
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you know . . . i had one of those dorito tacos from taco bell today. not bad. i saw an ad for one during the game.
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no one cares about your opinion on who will win the game.
this, coming from the scatterbrain who writes 5,000 word opinions on seemingly every thread on this board with no self awareness or real solid understanding of any given topic, truly hits me hard.
I guess it would be better for me tell you who is going to win a game when there is no real way of determing of the result. Otherwise you could just make a huge living betting on games.
and i guess you prefer the "you are stupid because you don't have the same opinion as me" posts that are so common on this board.
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no one cares about your opinion on who will win the game.
this, coming from the scatterbrain who writes 5,000 word opinions on seemingly every thread on this board with no self awareness or real solid understanding of any given topic, truly hits me hard.
I guess it would be better for me tell you who is going to win a game when there is no real way of determing of the result. Otherwise you could just make a huge living betting on games.
and i guess you prefer the "you are stupid because you don't have the same opinion as me" posts that are so common on this board.
that's not it at all; i'm pointing out the irony of someone who has an opinion on everything telling me no one cares about my opinion.
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shut the fuck up. watch the game . . . and shut the fuck up. jesus fucking christ. just shut the fuck up. did i say shut the fuck up. once, twice, ok, but to keep droning on and on and on and on like two strippers fighting over a dollar bill is enough. shut the fuck up.
sorry . . . i'm just mad that neither of you commented on my taco post. god, i'm so needy.
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Fletcher? He hasn't even been first team all pro in his career. Ray Lewis was defensive player of the year twice, 7 time first team all pro.
yeah. that's my point. fletcher hasn't gotten the same level of respect as lewis despite having a very similar career. look at the numbers on the field, not the number of votes they got for the pro bowl, and they are quite comparable.
this is why i don't talk about sports on the internet.
and, for the record, i'm a skins fan AND a ravens fan. unheard of, i know.
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i started to but got overwhelmed with emotions.
the dorito's taco shell was one of the biggest disappointments in my young life.
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i apprectiate your honesty. maybe the new cool ranch dorito taco bell shell will save you.
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there's just way too much nacho cheese dorito flavor going on.
looking forward to cool ranch, but curbing expectations this time around.
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Ranch anything is just nasty. Give me the volcano any day.
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That's a funny picture of the Ray Lewis dance, is that from SNL? I was looking around for the video but couldn't find it. Great game yesterday..
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That's a funny picture of the Ray Lewis dance, is that from SNL? I was looking around for the video but couldn't find it. Great game yesterday..
yes, snl
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look at all these bitter redskins fans in this thread
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Yeah I don't get it. Redskins fans should be happy that one of the area teams is going to the super bowl. I mean I hate the steelers but the redskins are ok now that they have rg3. Maybe the redskins fans are upset that ravens have all the stars
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My Redskin fan friends are rooting for the Ravens. Although my Redskin fan boss complained that Ravens fans sing the bass line to 7 Nation Army. he thinks the song is ruined.
He does not understand.
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i apprectiate your honesty. maybe the new cool ranch dorito taco bell shell will save you.
Cool Ranch!? Holy shit, that's amazing! I love Cool Ranch Doritos. Filling that with Taco Bell is genius.
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My Redskin fan friends are rooting for the Ravens. Although my Redskin fan boss complained that Ravens fans sing the bass line to 7 Nation Army. he thinks the song is ruined.
He does not understand.
I'm not upset, atomicfront seems to think "all" redskins fans are upset in this thread, I was just making a point, that he didn't appreciate, surprise.
As for the 7 Nation Army thing, I don't get that. A lot of teams in a lot of cities have fans that do that. Is it like the new soccer chant or something? And why did it start happening recently? That songs like 10 years old.
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answers can be found over at deadspin
http://deadspin.com/5977729/how-the-song-seven-nation-army-conquered-the-sports-world.
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I'll take 7 nation army over who let the dogs out any day.
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answers can be found over at deadspin
http://deadspin.com/5977729/how-the-song-seven-nation-army-conquered-the-sports-world.
"Minor American hit song" <- weren't the Stripes already a sensation over sea by this point? Isn't this considered their "biggest hit" as well? I guess at the time it wasn't.... I'll continue reading...
EDIT: this is absolutely hilarious - [CORRECTION: "Who Let the Dogs Out?" won Best Dance Recording in 2000. Deadspin regrets overestimating the Grammys.]
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I'll take 7 nation army over who let the dogs out any day.
Or that stupid professional kickball (aka soccer) chant.
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Whenever I hear 7 nation army after my team humiliates another team (patriots, broncos etc) it makes me want to upend cars and then set them on fire. So I guess it is doing it's job.
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Terribly annoying song for a terribly annoying team!
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Terribly annoying song for a terribly annoying successful team!
fixed
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Terribly annoying song for a terribly annoying successful team!
fixed
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ugh, peter king is so insufferable.
"10 things we think we think"
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ugh, peter king is so insufferable.
Oh yeah? Try being in SF but not a fan of their sports teams.
In the last 4 months, the Warriors are moving to SF, the Giants won (another) World Series, and now the Niners are in the Super Bowl.
Add to the fact that I'm a Steelers fan and could never root for the Ravens and this has become one of the most trying few sports months of my life.
My only saving grace is that I'm working on a ton of material about how the Niners will be in Santa Clara to defend their title (should they win). Should knock the smug right out of them....
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Sounds like a pot kettle black situation to me. ;D
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No need to be racist, Shemp.
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ugh, peter king is so insufferable.
Oh yeah? Try being in SF but not a fan of their sports teams.
In the last 4 months, the Warriors are moving to SF, the Giants won (another) World Series, and now the Niners are in the Super Bowl.
Add to the fact that I'm a Steelers fan and could never root for the Ravens and this has become one of the most trying few sports months of my life.
My only saving grace is that I'm working on a ton of material about how the Niners will be in Santa Clara to defend their title (should they win). Should knock the smug right out of them....
i'd rather live through that scenario for the rest of my life than read another PK article or see his stupid face on TV ever again.
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ugh, peter king is so insufferable.
Oh yeah? Try being in SF but not a fan of their sports teams.
In the last 4 months, the Warriors are moving to SF, the Giants won (another) World Series, and now the Niners are in the Super Bowl.
Add to the fact that I'm a Steelers fan and could never root for the Ravens and this has become one of the most trying few sports months of my life.
My only saving grace is that I'm working on a ton of material about how the Niners will be in Santa Clara to defend their title (should they win). Should knock the smug right out of them....
the one good thing about the 49ers winning would be that the steelers would stop bragging about having more super bowl wins than anyone else.
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This would be the 9ers 7th?
I don't want either team to win. Officially tuning out of ESPN for the next 2 weeks... and probably 2 weeks after that to be safe... How about them Caps :'(
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The 49ers will indeed join the exclusive "6 Super Bowl Wins" club with the Pittsburgh Steelers if they beat the Ravens.
As for bragging, is that not something a team should brag about? I think a team winning 6 Super Bowls is pretty impressive, and will still be impressive if the 49ers join the club, just not exclusive.
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We're #2! We're #2!
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ugh, peter king is so insufferable.
"10 things we think we think"
Most overrated "reporter" in the history of American journalism.
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Matt Damon is in NFL denial ... 'cause the guy honestly believes the New England Patriots would NEVER have been defeated by the Baltimore Ravens if they weren't riddled with injuries.
Problem is ... the Pats weren't as injured as Damon made them out to be.
Matt -- a Boston-native -- had just arrived at LAX last night when someone asked why his team folded in the AFC Championship this past Sunday.
"Lotta injuries," Damon said ... "They couldn't beat us full strength."
Obviously, the Pats were missing Rob Gronkowski going into Sunday's game ... but that's really their only big-time guy who was sidelined with an injury (forearm).
A couple of important Pats players were hurt DURING the matchup -- including CB Aqib Talib and RB Stevan Ridley ... but hey, that's part of the game, right?
But when Damon was asked who he's rooting for in the Super Bowl -- the Ravens or the 49ers -- he still refused to acknowledge defeat ... saying, "I'm going for a healthy New England team, that's the best team in the country."
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/23/matt-damon-new-england-patriots-beat-healthy-baltimore-ravens-injuries/#ixzz2IpAccBbT
http://tmzstore.com
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Nice.
I am SO GLAD the Ravens beat the Pats AT HOME AGAIN.
It's just been so great to watch this week.
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Sounds like a pot kettle black situation to me. ;D
No need to be racist, Shemp.
I'm struggling to decide which of these comments I like more....both are Smackie approved.
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Matt Damon is in NFL denial ... 'cause the guy honestly believes the New England Patriots would NEVER have been defeated by the Baltimore Ravens if they weren't riddled with injuries.
Problem is ... the Pats weren't as injured as Damon made them out to be.
Matt -- a Boston-native -- had just arrived at LAX last night when someone asked why his team folded in the AFC Championship this past Sunday.
"Lotta injuries," Damon said ... "They couldn't beat us full strength."
Obviously, the Pats were missing Rob Gronkowski going into Sunday's game ... but that's really their only big-time guy who was sidelined with an injury (forearm).
A couple of important Pats players were hurt DURING the matchup -- including CB Aqib Talib and RB Stevan Ridley ... but hey, that's part of the game, right?
But when Damon was asked who he's rooting for in the Super Bowl -- the Ravens or the 49ers -- he still refused to acknowledge defeat ... saying, "I'm going for a healthy New England team, that's the best team in the country."
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2013/01/23/matt-damon-new-england-patriots-beat-healthy-baltimore-ravens-injuries/#ixzz2IpAccBbT
http://tmzstore.com
geez like other teams don't have injuries. The ravens best defensive back was out.
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And all this time I thought the other guy was the whiny bitch.
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"Super Bowl hype is always exhausting and overdone, but I must admit, I was astounded at how quickly people started complaining about the HarBowl storyline. John Harbaugh's Baltimore Ravens had not even finished beating the Patriots, to set up a matchup with Jim's San Francisco 49ers, when I saw tweets and Facebook posts complaining about the Harbaugh hype.
Do you realize how amazing this is? These guys shared a room together as kids, competed against each other in everything, and now they are coaching against each other in the Super Bowl.
That's one of the most incredible sports stories I've ever seen. Are we so in love with our own snark that we can't appreciate it?"
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130121/john-harbaugh-jim-harbaugh-super-bowl-xlvii/#ixzz2IqbhFjcQ
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this is a country of big dreams from small businesses . . . unless of course greedy big businesses don't want you to have shit.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/the-man-who-trademarked-harbowl-a-year-ago-until-nfl-lawyers-pressured-him-to-abandon-it/article/2519528#.UQBfHonjlEA
money ruined this so called sport, years ago.
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Ray Lewis' first sack (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/first-pro-sack-ray-lewis-ever-made-quarterback-223719153--nfl.html)
In case you haven't yet heard.
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Are we so in love with our own snark that we can't appreciate it?
you're asking that on this board?
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Brady fined 10K.
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aww . . . gisele can't buy another purse today.
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Are we so in love with our own snark that we can't appreciate it?
you're asking that on this board?
That was actually taken directly from the column. Not my quote, but apropos.
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awesome.
http://deadspin.com/5978443/?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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Brady fined 10K.
so brady gets fined 10000 for almost seriously injuring another player, more than likely on purpose . . . and frank gore was fined 10,500 for wearing his socks too low in the nfc championship game. interesting.
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Brady fined 10K.
so brady gets fined 10000 for almost seriously injuring another player, more than likely on purpose . . . and frank gore was fined 10,500 for wearing his socks too low in the nfc championship game. interesting.
Racists gonna race
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awesome.
http://deadspin.com/5978443/?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
A Phish message board?
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"Super Bowl hype is always exhausting and overdone, but I must admit, I was astounded at how quickly people started complaining about the HarBowl storyline. John Harbaugh's Baltimore Ravens had not even finished beating the Patriots, to set up a matchup with Jim's San Francisco 49ers, when I saw tweets and Facebook posts complaining about the Harbaugh hype.
Do you realize how amazing this is? These guys shared a room together as kids, competed against each other in everything, and now they are coaching against each other in the Super Bowl.
That's one of the most incredible sports stories I've ever seen. Are we so in love with our own snark that we can't appreciate it?"
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130121/john-harbaugh-jim-harbaugh-super-bowl-xlvii/#ixzz2IqbhFjcQ
http://www.theonion.com/articles/espn-showing-home-footage-of-young-harbaugh-brothe,31041/
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/espn-showing-home-footage-of-young-harbaugh-brothe,31041/
lol.
and for smackie: http://www.theonion.com/articles/2013-puppy-bowl-teams-to-be-coached-by-two-dogs-fr,31027/
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and for smackie: http://www.theonion.com/articles/2013-puppy-bowl-teams-to-be-coached-by-two-dogs-fr,31027/
Gunner and Zeus. Brilliant.
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and for smackie: http://www.theonion.com/articles/2013-puppy-bowl-teams-to-be-coached-by-two-dogs-fr,31027/
Gunner and Zeus. Brilliant.
i didn't get that... are those two names significant?
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Ray Lewis possibly linked to PED use. Spraying deer antler extract into his mouth?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/29/ray-lewis-may-have-used-banned-substance-to-recover-from-torn-triceps/
He's up soon at Media Day as well...
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also linked to balance bracelets and holograms
LOL
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'Even if Ray Lewis did use deer antler spray his body would have never absorbed the banned substance its manufacturer says gives the product its potency, a Johns Hopkins professor said.
Dr. Roberto Salvatori, who runs a lab studying growth hormone deficiency and has been on the Hopkins faculty since 1998, said there is no scientifically accepted way to deliver IGF-1 orally.
?If there were, a lot of people would be happy that they don?t need to get shots anymore,? he said. ?It?s just simply not possible for it to come from a spray.?'
http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-ray-lewis-denies-using-banned-substance-during-rehab-from-injury-20130129,0,7725655.story
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who cares. there isn't a drug in the world these mutants wouldn't take to continue to play football and entertain the masses. they love the game too much to care, and we love the game too much to care for them.
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'Even if Ray Lewis did use deer antler spray his body would have never absorbed the banned substance its manufacturer says gives the product its potency, a Johns Hopkins professor said.
Dr. Roberto Salvatori, who runs a lab studying growth hormone deficiency and has been on the Hopkins faculty since 1998, said there is no scientifically accepted way to deliver IGF-1 orally.
?If there were, a lot of people would be happy that they don?t need to get shots anymore,? he said. ?It?s just simply not possible for it to come from a spray.?'
http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-ray-lewis-denies-using-banned-substance-during-rehab-from-injury-20130129,0,7725655.story
Exactly. And why in the hell are people even paying attention to this "doctor". It's ridiculous.
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who cares. there isn't a drug in the world these mutants wouldn't take to continue to play football and entertain the masses. they love the game too much to care, and we love the game too much to care for them.
excellent post!
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I have no strong opinion on Ray Lewis either way, but it was pretty pathetic to see ESPN trot out every analyst to vociferously defend the future ESPN employee Lewis against this story. The matter of fact way they reported the A-Rod story provided a nice contrast.
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Lucky the Ravens made the Super Bowl otherwise this story would not have been regurgitated by Sports Illustrated after two years.
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'Even if Ray Lewis did use deer antler spray his body would have never absorbed the banned substance its manufacturer says gives the product its potency, a Johns Hopkins professor said.
Dr. Roberto Salvatori, who runs a lab studying growth hormone deficiency and has been on the Hopkins faculty since 1998, said there is no scientifically accepted way to deliver IGF-1 orally.
?If there were, a lot of people would be happy that they don?t need to get shots anymore,? he said. ?It?s just simply not possible for it to come from a spray.?'
http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-ray-lewis-denies-using-banned-substance-during-rehab-from-injury-20130129,0,7725655.story
Exactly. And why in the hell are people even paying attention to this "doctor". It's ridiculous.
The NFL doesn't even test for HGH. So there is no way they could suspend him even if he were taking it through needles.
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is this . . . a real distraction or not? i can't tell. go artie lange, on the boost to the career!
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/ray-ratto/did-chris-culliver-fracture-49ers-focus
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is this . . . a real distraction or not? i can't tell. go artie lange, on the boost to the career!
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/ray-ratto/did-chris-culliver-fracture-49ers-focus
Took some of the focus off St. Ray.
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is this . . . a real distraction or not? i can't tell. go artie lange, on the boost to the career!
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/ray-ratto/did-chris-culliver-fracture-49ers-focus
It is out here in the media, but probably not with the team.
My advice was to have Kwame Harris bitch slap him.
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http://deadspin.com/5980905/second-graders-correct-tweets-from-nfl-players-and-its-magical
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well this thread is fun.
SF is gonna stomp baltimore, so get your fun in now Ravens fans.
Keep calling for a Ravens loss. You're bound to be right one day.
this is the first time i've called for a ravens loss? i just think SF is way too good of a team. kaepernick plays way too fast for baltimore's smash-mouth defense.
Lose any money on it?
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nah.
i was just upset my pats lost. glad SF made it a game tho.
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Jets starting QB gets sucker punched by teammate in locker room, broken jaw out 2-3 months. Hilarious press conference ensues. Honestly, this is fascinating. If you get Rich Eisen's show, you should put it on, he's apoplectic.
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Any news on what happened!? This broke [HEH] on Twitter as I was walking back to my office. Just saw "altercation" and "scuffle".
WAS THIS AN INSIDE JOB???
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Any news on what happened!? This broke [HEH] on Twitter as I was walking back to my office. Just saw "altercation" and "scuffle".
WAS THIS AN INSIDE JOB???
WHO ORDERED THE CODE RED!?!
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Why are you talking about the Jets in a thread called 'NFL Playoffs'?