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So lots of dumping on trump from the pundits
but I have seen some crazy vitriol from the MAGA crowd on DeSantis
Any hint that he might be presidential material is responded with ...you mean 2028 because there is zero chance that I'll vote for anyone but trump
I really hope this cleaves the party
that Trump actually creates a "Trump Party" and says FU to all the GOP elite
I can't believe how long the Party elite has allowed Trump to rule the party
mostly because they know he has the votes
I just don't think this can end well
So I expect we'll get an announcement from Trump soon, mostly because he'll use it as an argument (that most will believe) that inditing him is politically motivated and for that reason should be thrown out...alas new ways to run the clock
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Decent short list
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731647-ranking-the-democrats-who-could-run-for-president-in-2024/
Gretchen is getting quite the notice
I Personally I think booker should be on this list
And I wish isnlee could get people more excited
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How do we feel about Mark Kelly?
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How do we feel about Mark Kelly?
he is kinda’space-y’
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You just had to do it didn’t you!! :)
Let me enjoy this one for a while…
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Decent short list
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3731647-ranking-the-democrats-who-could-run-for-president-in-2024/
Gretchen is getting quite the notice
I Personally I think booker should be on this list
And I wish isnlee could get people more excited
Corey Booker!? Surely you jest. Man has the personality of a dry mop. No one wanted him in 2020, what’s changed?
Any list that exists in the fantasy world where Biden does not get it needs to start with Colorado’s Governor Polis and Senator Bennett. There’s two variations on the Democratic theme to choose from and both can win in purple states.
Newsom has the electability of a jock strap outside California.
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Corey Booker!? Surely you jest. Man has the personality of a dry mop. No one wanted him in 2020, what’s changed.
Exactly nothing
He was really the first democrat senator talking about pot In the hallowed halls of the senate
I like his stance on prison reform and food/agriculture
Electable, I think so. It sure the democrat base thinks so.
I think he is very likable and that means a lot
I have very little faith Harris will win over the base at all, maybe with 51 senators we’ll hear and see a whole lot more of her
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No one has ever lacked juice like Corey Booker lacks juice.
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If Biden doesn’t run - and the midterms make it a certainty barring ill health that he will - then I can see Pete and Kamala slugging it out with a “Bernie Sanders Nation” candidate.
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No one has ever lacked juice like Corey Booker lacks juice.
So in Booker vs. DeSantis, you're calling Desantis?
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I see Pete in the last 3 for sure
I have knowledge of this, (decent 9:30 forum tagline)
does one day Biden, declare ‘I shall seek a second term “
And then it’s final, that’s who is running
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No one has ever lacked juice like Corey Booker lacks juice.
So in Booker vs. DeSantis, you're calling Desantis?
Its hard to say not knowing how the economy is, etc etc, when this hypothetical election was going to take place, but DeSantis is a better swing state candidate right now in 2022 than Booker by a wide margin. “Candidate quality matters” — wasn't that the lesson we were supposed to have learned last week?
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Am I crazy, does Jamie raskin have some national potential?
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Am I crazy, does Jamie raskin have some national potential?
He's very much like Bernie Sanders politically, and a Democratic Party member, but he doesn't exude the heat of Bernie that makes him compelling to people who would not normally support progressives. Light a fire under him and maybe.
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When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?
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When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?
oh i know i know!!! it's one happened once: john quincy adams!
(not only am i the life of the party, i KILL it at trivia - follow me to learn more!)
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Newsom has the electability of a jock strap outside California.
while that's not exactly how i would put it, yeah - newsom's candidacy is a non-starter. he has too much "california baggage" to be elected. i was just having this discussion 2 nights ago... not sure how anyone can think he'd work nationally.
Am I crazy, does Jamie raskin have some national potential?
not sure this country is ready for a jewish president.
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When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?
welp pretty much never, but I guess he needs to become a governor or senator first
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When was the last time you saw a House of Representatives member get their party’s nomination for the Presidency?
welp pretty much never, but I guess he's needed to become a governor or senator first
Josh Shapiro seems like a better Jewish pick.
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I mean, we can do senators, governors, SCOTUS, often half the cabinet, but POTUS is off the table
I agree Josh S now has a better chance after being elected Gov
Spitzer might have had a chance if he didn't go down in a ball of flames
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I have knowledge of this, (decent 9:30 forum tagline)
does one day Biden, declare ‘I shall seek a second term “
And then it’s final, that’s who is running
bumping this up to see if there is a known answer
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Ted is raging.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1592192962267877377
He goes on about Americans getting screwed. Does he consider the Americans who voted against the Republicans to not be Americans?
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He goes on about Americans getting screwed. Does he consider the Americans who voted against the Republicans to not be Americans?
to answer your question: he does.
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Newsom has the electability of a jock strap outside California.
while that's not exactly how i would put it, yeah - newsom's candidacy is a non-starter. he has too much "california baggage" to be elected. i was just having this discussion 2 nights ago... not sure how anyone can think he'd work nationally.
apparently this dude isn't feeling us:
Here’s a game plan: Biden replaces Harris with Newsom and then resigns (https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3728474-heres-a-game-plan-biden-replaces-harris-with-newsom-and-then-resigns/)
(...) That reality speaks to the need for a proven vote-getter with lots of money and a logistical machine behind him. In Politics 101, California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) meets — maybe even exceeds — those qualifications.
dude. i definitely want some of whatever he's smoking.
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Madness
Unless Biden keels over he will be the nominee (for better or for worse). That’s one of the things this election decided. And if he replaced Kamala with Gavin Newsom the African American community would lose its marbles.
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Madness
Unless Biden keels over he will be the nominee (for better or for worse). That’s one of the things this election decided. And if he replaced Kamala with Gavin Newsom the African American community would lose its marbles.
4,000
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this thread is well named
Kanye West announces he will again run for US President in 2024
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Iowa, Ohio, and Florida appear no longer to be closely divided states.
Therefore are no longer considered battleground states
Presidential campaigns start mapping
Also do we really believe that Ye asked Trump to be his VP
That’s crazy even for him
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That’s right…just look at the last presidential election and you can see how the next one will likely go as far as where parties will put emphasis
Democrats should look more to GA and NC than FL and OH.
Wisconsin is key ….We could have beat Ron Johnson there!
Then you got the Southwest where Democrats need Nevada and Arizona
So yeah the map has changed.
I really hope Democrats finally learn the lesson that FL and OH are a waste of time and money other than impact they can have on other states like Pennsylvania and Georgia (so yeah invest in Jacksonville TV market and part of Ohio that borders PA)
If Trump is the Republican I think we can hold it together. Not sure how Desantis will play…. Everyone talks about what a great candidate he is but I don’t see it…
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I think this is a great idea.
Always though Iowa was a joke place to start
Democrats voted to remove Iowa as the leadoff state on the presidential nominating calendar and replace it with South Carolina starting in 2024
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Always though Iowa was a joke place to start
an effective way of ensuring white political privilege.
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I think this is a great idea.
Always though Iowa was a joke place to start
Democrats voted to remove Iowa as the leadoff state on the presidential nominating calendar and replace it with South Carolina starting in 2024
Iowa was traditionally a swing state so it made sense. It is not now. Fortunately they’ve fixed that by moving to a state that’s always up for grabs: South Carolina.
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Does that mean that Iowa where the GOP will start?
Not remembering how this works
I mean last time was such a joke with the GOP with a bunch of states just canceling the primaries where other states were holding them
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An interesting take
The DNC has voted to approve a White House plan of moving South Carolina to the front of the line of the 2024 calendar, followed by Nevada and New Hampshire and onto Georgia and Michigan before Super Tuesday. Call it the President Biden re-election protection act.
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An interesting take
The DNC has voted to approve a White House plan of moving South Carolina to the front of the line of the 2024 calendar, followed by Nevada and New Hampshire and onto Georgia and Michigan before Super Tuesday. Call it the President Biden re-election protection act.
Its Biden’s nomination if he wants it regardless of state order.
This is really pretty good aside from SC (which is meant as a gesture to black voters but is electorally brain dead). The other states are fantastic.
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The really under-discussed repercussion of this is how many political ads am I going to have to see during Michigan games next fall and winter 2024 as a result of this?
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From Ole billy k
Unsettling news:
Election-denier Lake got 49.7% in AZ.
Super-flawed candidate Walker got ~48.5% in GA.
Johnson won WI with 50.5%.
So those states are very much in play for 2024. If my EC math is right, if Rs add those three to states they won in 2020, they win the presidency.
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bring on the GOP shitshow 2024.
My prediction is trump will continue to run and grift. Then continue to throw hand grenades in every direction. At both the dems and GOP. then will lose the first few states and realize there is no chance and drop out late in the game.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/12/13/trump-support-gop-2024-presidential-race-poll/10882346002/
this has got to be the smallest his base has ever been
31% want the former president to run
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My prediction is trump will continue to run and grift. Then continue to throw hand grenades in every direction. At both the dems and GOP. then will lose the first few states and realize there is no chance and drop out late in the game.
alternate ending: he loses the republican nom, so starts his own party and runs as a third-party candidate. the GOP begs him not to, rightly predicting that he'll split the conservative vote thus ensuring that the Dems keep the WH. trump won't care, because continued campaigning = continued grifting and he'll be aware this will be his last big chance to fleece the flock. dems could run biden's corps and they'd still win (probably will ;D ). trump is happy to murder the GOP in 2024 in return for cold hard cash.
epilogue: trump disappears, but his party remains. more competent right-wing nationalists who can form complete sentences rise in the ranks and vie for the conservative vote against a fading GOP. trump dies, but trumpism lives on.
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alternate ending: he loses the republican nom, so starts his own party and runs as a third-party candidate. the GOP begs him not to, rightly predicting that he'll split the conservative vote thus ensuring that the Dems keep the WH.
this is my dream. I've predicted this more than once, and so far have only felt foolish making that prediction
trump won't care
almost implying that he once did care
trump dies, but trumpism lives on.
ultimately the biggest threat we face. But it's very cult of personality, as we've seen Desantis or Don Jr clearly doesn't satisfy the hard core MAGA
I think in the end that 10-15 million MAGA voters will go back to under their rocks and won't vote in future presidential elections and that too may be the kill shot of what the GOP is today
only wild card on all of this is if the GOP really starts to lean into the Hispanic vote. It's not like they haven't done 180s multiple times on this topic in decades, biggest issue would be getting the GOP to shed its xenophobic and white supremist tendencies. They could easily gain 10 +mil voters here if done right
as a case could be made there are more 'getable' Hispanics than crazy white MAGAs
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Ranked choice voting comes to arlington!
https://wamu.org/story/22/12/19/arlington-ranked-choice-voting/
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Sidehatch seal of approval for this nickname
Pudding Paws
Felt this was a nothingburger story, but this nickname makes it all worth it
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Sidehatch seal of approval for this nickname
Pudding Paws
Felt this was a nothingburger story, but this nickname makes it all worth it
I'm a bit more troubled by the way he runs Florida than by the way he eats pudding.
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Sidehatch seal of approval for this nickname
Pudding Paws
Felt this was a nothingburger story, but this nickname makes it all worth it
I'm a bit more troubled by the way he runs Florida than by the way he eats pudding.
let me be clear, I'm 100% ok with using your digits to get to the bottom of a pudding cup
So that wasn't a ding in my eyes
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Robert F Kennedy Jr has filed election paperwork to run for US president in 2024 as a Democrat.
Other than he has less chance than Marianne Williams at winning the nomination, can he file when Biden still hasn't announced?
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Robert F Kennedy Jr has filed election paperwork to run for US president in 2024 as a Democrat.
Other than he has less chance than Marianne Williams at winning the nomination, can he file when Biden still hasn't announced?
yes he can file and it's Williamson, not Williams.
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Robert F Kennedy Jr has filed election paperwork to run for US president in 2024 as a Democrat.
Other than he has less chance than Marianne Williams at winning the nomination, can he file when Biden still hasn't announced?
yes he can file and it's Williamson, not Williams.
part of the patriarchy I see
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can he file when Biden still hasn't announced?
why would he not? an incumbent president running unopposed isn't guaranteed, it's just a recognition of reality: assuming a prez's first term isn't a total disaster, anyone running against him has almost zero chance of winning... so why bother going through the effort only to come out a loser? not a good look for future runs, i.e. in 4 years when the incumbent won't be in the way.
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But it's the democratic party, so I thought they could
like the Republicans with Trump, say there will be no primary for the party...right?
I can see no bar to run as an independent but thought the party had control to a certain degree on who runs
But clearly I don't know
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yes, the party could decide to not hold primaries if the incumbent runs - but the Dems haven't done that yet, so the field is open.
now that someone has declare their intent to run against biden, i wonder if that door has closed?
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So biden announces with a whimper...if you weren't paying attention you might have missed it
also...bernie is NOT running and endorses Biden...sorry NKOTB
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
That would be more of a George H. W. Bush move.
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
I think the best announcement would be him taking a big hit from a bong, holding it in, and then blowing it out.
"I'm Joe Biden, I want your vote in 2024"
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
I think the best announcement would be him taking a big hit from a bong, holding it in, and then blowing it out.
"I'm Joe Biden, I want your vote in 2024"
If Biden somehow limps in to win this election, no way he makes it four years.
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
I think the best announcement would be him taking a big hit from a bong, holding it in, and then blowing it out.
"I'm Joe Biden, I want your vote in 2024"
If Biden somehow limps in to win this election, no way he makes it four years.
As president or as a breathing human? Life expectancy for a 82 yr old white male is 7.32 years.
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Limps?
Things are going as well as possible….I am not going to blame Biden for inflation.
I think he will live many many more years. I think his dad lived to 86 and mother to 92! Not only that, he receives the best medical care in the world!! I would expect him to live another 15 years!
Democrats seem obsessed with his age. I don’t get it. And the guy -even in his younger days- was a gaffe machine. Just focus on results.
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Did you expect him to announce while skydiving?
I think the best announcement would be him taking a big hit from a bong, holding it in, and then blowing it out.
"I'm Joe Biden, I want your vote in 2024"
If Biden somehow limps in to win this election, no way he makes it four years.
As president or as a breathing human? Life expectancy for a 82 yr old white male is 7.32 years.
Both... but he looks like my grandpa in his final days of life. He has that stare.
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Limps?
Things are going as well as possible….I am not going to blame Biden for inflation.
I think he will live many many more years. I think his dad lived to 86 and mother to 92! Not only that, he receives the best medical care in the world!! I would expect him to live another 15 years!
Democrats seem obsessed with his age. I don’t get it. And the guy -even in his younger days- was a gaffe machine. Just focus on results.
Fred Trump lived to the age of 93.
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His writers deserve a raise
“If you find yourself disoriented or confused you’re either drunk or Marjorie Taylor Greene,” President Biden said At the WH correspondents dinner
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file footage not found
Things are going as well as possible….I am not going to blame Biden for inflation.
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Trump guilty of sexual abuse and must pay $5 million
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Liable. This is civil. We could call him guilty if it were criminal.
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I knew I should have gone to law school!
That damned LSAT
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Oh please it will get appealed all the way to the corrupt SCOTUS, because Witch Hunt and he’s the most innocent person EVER!
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He can appeal but it’s still another black mark…I think they add up for anyone that’s not his base…
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So Santos gets charged with a bunch doing a bunch of illegal stuff, but it will be crickets from MTG the de facto speaker of the house and republicans because WITCH HUNT and some dude with the last name Biden made some money.. not that making money on one's name has ever EVER happened in conservative circles
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Sorry, George Santos is the coolest man in DC and shouldn't be penalized for having a good time!!!!
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I personally feel great knowing this party is our last line of defense against fascism!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvyfLfZX0BITr4K?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
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^ she clearly fought fascism the first time 'round, so she has experience...
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lol
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Is that the same party that ran a campaign against this George Santos character and lost?
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Now that's not fair. That would be like running a campaign against the Fonz and being surprised you lost.
Is that the same party that ran a campaign against this George Santos character and lost?
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Now that's not fair. That would be like running a campaign against the Fonz and being surprised you lost.
Is that the same party that ran a campaign against this George Santos character and lost?
I lost to the Fonz once
never again!
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Now that's not fair. That would be like running a campaign against the Fonz and being surprised you lost.
Is that the same party that ran a campaign against this George Santos character and lost?
I lost to the Fonz once
never again!
And now look at you Barry Berkman, typing this from a prison cell.
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And now look at you Barry Berkman, typing this from a prison cell.
You might be an episode or two behind, bro.
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And it’s on baby…
NEW POLL: Former President Trump is leading President Biden by a 7-point margin in a hypothetical 2024 matchup
gonna be a wild two years
I am worried people will get hurt, that does suck to think that going into a presidential election
Sum f’edup times
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Sen. Tim Scott files paperwork to run for president in the 2024 election
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this is really going to be a bonkers election
RNC just listed requirements for their debates....which are pretty standard until they get to this part
Perhaps the thorniest issue for the RNC and some candidates is that the party will require those participating in the debate to sign a loyalty pledge agreeing to support the eventual party nominee. Some critics have questioned the enforceability of the pledge to support the eventual nominee.
The party will also require candidates to commit to a data-sharing agreement and pledge not to participate in any debate the RNC has not sanctioned.
Former President Donald Trump, who is leading the majority of national polls of the primary field, has already threatened to skip the first two debates. At the first primary debate in 2016, he refused to commit to backing the eventual party nominee if it was not him.
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Call me old fashioned but knock on wood if we keep adding 400,000 jobs a month until August 2024 I got to think Biden’s got it in the bag. That would be like close to 20 million jobs under Biden. Yeah inflation sucks, the market is recovering from the pandemic and he falls down but come on. You got to think wages are going up in the next 18 months.
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I think it’s highly unlikely monthly job growth is that linear of a thing — under any administration — for any significant period of time. That’s just not how that metric works. As you get close to zero unemployment, job growth has to slow just mathematically.
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I think it’s highly unlikely monthly job growth is that linear of a thing — under any administration — for any significant period of time. That’s just not how that metric works. As you get close to zero unemployment, job growth has to slow just mathematically.
Well it hasn’t in 28 months….despite the Fed
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Who is giving him money?? Seems likely to get 0.001% of the votes
Former Vice President Mike Pence announced he’s running for president in 2024 on Wednesday
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It was going to come out soon or later, but I too will be seeking the republican presidential nomination.. gofundme going live soonish
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It was going to come out soon or later, but I too will be seeking the republican presidential nomination.. gofundme going live soonish
Well anybody who can simultaneously serve as a forum moderator and a governor is industrious and worthy of consideration. You go Doug!
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/north-dakota-governor-doug-burgum-join-2024-republican-primary-race-2023-06-07/
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It was going to come out soon or later, but I too will be seeking the republican presidential nomination.. gofundme going live soonish
Well anybody who can simultaneously serve as a forum moderator and a governor is industrious and worthy of consideration. You go Doug!
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/north-dakota-governor-doug-burgum-join-2024-republican-primary-race-2023-06-07/
The North Dakota air and sun are really serving Kosmo well since he's started spending time there. He looked so haggard and used up, like a toothpaste tube that had been sat on by an elephant, last time I saw him. Great advertisement for the state.
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Will Hurd thinks he got what it takes to lead the GOP in 2024
and Flordia Man Rick Scott thinking very hard about it
we are at 13 candidates and Trump isn't participating in any debates
also the GOP is still making them sign a loyalty pledge...which trump won't sign
...this should be fun
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Now here is a candidate I can get behind
, Afroman intends to run as an independent for the 2024 presidency, pledging to be “Our Cannabis Commander in Chief. Our Pot Head of State.”
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yes it's early...but the thing people always miss on the POTUS election...is it's all about the battleground states
national polls are meaningless.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F8zREMXWIAAUXen?format=png&name=large)
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Who misses that, lemmings?
I will begin paying attention to polls in June/July….
Still it’s striking how many lemmings there are in this country….how can Trump even be competitive?
Keyword: Lemming
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really thought you were on to something, but name taken
https://www.facebook.com/thelemmingsband/
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At this point polls measure excitement
Is anyone excited by Biden?
No. But people will vote for him on the end cause the alternative is too crazy to contemplate
There are headwinds….inflation- whatever numbers say- really took a bite out of people’s paychecks after the midterms. Let’s hope paychecks begin to address that and catch up a bit
But unless something really crazy (like WW3 shudders) happens Biden is going to be re-elected. And Trump being the Republican candidate is the best possible scenario.
Having said that, Biden best keep visiting PA, MI etc
Biden is a very good politician and just locked up a lot of $ for his campaign
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Good thing he's not stoking anything that could lead to that scenario!
But unless something really crazy (like WW3 shudders) happens Biden is going to be re-elected.
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I know! Has Biden learned nothing from WW2? Let the ruskies have Ukraine and the Palestinians Israel and the world will be a safer place. Appeasement works.
I am the first to usually criticize US foreign policy but standing with Israel and Ukraine is the right thing to do for our own national security.
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Aside from the questionable morality of funding a genocide, I guess you do have a point. I can't think of any instance in the past where our government's islamophobia, unwelcome intervention or butchery of innocent lives in the middle east has ever come back to bite us years later!
I know! Has Biden learned nothing from WW2? Let the ruskies have Ukraine and the Palestinians Israel and the world will be a safer place. Appeasement works.
I am the first to usually criticize US foreign policy but standing with Israel and Ukraine is the right thing to do for our own national security.
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Oh no we totally disagree!!
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Aside from the questionable morality of funding a genocide, I guess you do have a point. I can't think of any instance in the past where our government's islamophobia, unwelcome intervention or butchery of innocent lives in the middle east has ever come back to bite us years later!
have you learned nothing, 9/11 was an inside job
You need to look up the definition of genocide
apartheid or ethnostate would be more appropriate
Also, where were you at the A Giant Dog show. I hung with Vas/Challenged and there was only 100 people there
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Seems pretty cut & dry to me!
The deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
You need to look up the definition of genocide
apartheid or ethnostate would be more appropriate
Unfortunately i didn't...someone brought some bug home from school so we were all banged up this weekend. Bummed I had to miss it.
Also, where were you at the A Giant Dog show. I hung with Vas/Challenged and there was only 100 people there
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I do not agree with you!
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Seems pretty cut & dry to me!
The deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.
You need to look up the definition of genocide
apartheid or ethnostate would be more appropriate
So what do you define as a large number of people?
and not sure Israel is doing a good job of genocide considering there were something like 2 Million Palestinians in 1990 and now it's over 5 Million
When I think Genocide, I think of murdering 100's of thousands at the very least 10's of thousands (think Nazis/Rwanda even Bosnia was more 'genocidal')
While 3k is still a lot of people (and horrible), in a population of 5 million...hardly genocide
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I do not agree with you!
yeah, he definitely should have gone to the A giant dog show
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That's the number from their current campaign only, and obviously doesn't include the death toll from other violent means like the horrid conditions they're forced to live under.
Let's take the definition from the Geneva Convention, something (I would assume) we all think is good and something we should follow:
"Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group; [CHECK]
Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; [CHECK]
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; CHECK
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [CHECK]
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [depending on your definition, CHECK]
Just because they might not be as successful as they want doesn't change what they're doing, and what we're paying for.
Looks like a duck, etc. etc.
While 3k is still a lot of people (and horrible), in a population of 2 million...hardly genocide
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Let's take the definition from the Geneva Convention, something (I would assume) we all think is good and something we should follow:
"Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; CHECK
Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [CHECK]
Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [depending on your definition, CHECK]
can't say I agree on these last three (first two for sure)
the birth ones seems way off as their population is growing at a fast pace
not sure about forcibly transferring children either. (but there is a lot I don't know)
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hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.
Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
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since I was suckin' my moms teet.
weird flex as that wasn't that long ago
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We are paying for?
Israel is a highly developed wealthy country. You seem to think it’s 1955!
We give money and weapons to our friends and even sometimes our frenemies. Egypt, Jordan get our money etc.
Israel is not dependent on our aid.
Heck they have like 15 Nobel Prize winners!
Have you ever visited the Middle East? Israel is like a beacon on the hill compared to the repressive totalitarian states around them! I mean Arabs in Israel vote. Heck the Palestinians don’t even have a functioning democracy. I mean either Hamas are being elected by the people of Gaza or they are dictators. Take your picky. I place most of the blame for the situation the Palestinians are in on the Palestinians and their supposed Arab friends who do nothing for them.
But yeah…blame Israel and the Jews…it’s always the Jews to blame….they just had 1300 people plus blown to bits by terrorists who have more than 200 hostages including Americans and let’s blame Israel for genocide.
Give me a break.
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hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.
Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop
And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.
Propagandist.
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hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.
Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop
And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.
Propagandist.
No... you didn't hurt my feelings at all, but your cold heart is showing, that's for sure.
What statements did I take out of context? You told me I couldn't provide you with any facts that you didn't know and you've backed the Palestinian people since I was a baby... so pretty sure i'm quoting you.
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lol come on man
We are paying for?
We give money and weapons to our friends and even sometimes our frenemies. Egypt, Jordan get our money etc.
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Just checking in for my daily update on how our own personal Lincoln/Douglas debate is proceeding. All good, I see.
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I do not agree!
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Listening to you guys makes me realize why my wife implores me to stop talking about politics.
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WOW
it’s always the Jews to blame
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hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.
Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop
And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.
Propagandist.
No... you didn't hurt my feelings at all, but your cold heart is showing, that's for sure.
What statements did I take out of context? You told me I couldn't provide you with any facts that you didn't know and you've backed the Palestinian people since I was a baby... so pretty sure i'm quoting you.
Oh now I am cold hearted.
For what? Saying I leave it up to Israel to determine what they need to do for their security in the wake of an unprecedented terrorist attack? That is the extent of my statement and I stand by it but you seem to draw an inference that I condone mass murder.
I never said Israel should do what you seem to accuse them of doing.
Gotta say Yada I am surprised at what you are accusing me of. I can take it but you should be careful about making such assumptions. It’s one thing to have different positions or opinions but when you start saying those with opinions different to yours are condoning mass murder….at that point I would say the conversation is over. Good day.
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Do I need to post pictures of kittens again??
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Couldn’t hurt….
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hey look nkotb, Hutch has been an expert on middle eastern affairs with a focus on Hamas since I was suckin' my moms teet.
Current obliteration of children, babies, and innocents don't matter in this situation.
Oh no did I hurt your feelings?? Yada, just stop
And don’t take my statements out of context or ascribe things to me that I never said.
Propagandist.
No... you didn't hurt my feelings at all, but your cold heart is showing, that's for sure.
What statements did I take out of context? You told me I couldn't provide you with any facts that you didn't know and you've backed the Palestinian people since I was a baby... so pretty sure i'm quoting you.
Oh now I am cold hearted.
For what? Saying I leave it up to Israel to determine what they need to do for their security in the wake of an unprecedented terrorist attack? That is the extent of my statement and I stand by it but you seem to draw an inference that I condone mass murder.
I never said Israel should do what you seem to accuse them of doing.
Gotta say Yada I am surprised at what you are accusing me of. I can take it but you should be careful about making such assumptions. It’s one thing to have different positions or opinions but when you start saying those with opinions different to yours are condoning mass murder….at that point I would say the conversation is over. Good day.
Give me a break... did I hurt your feelings hutch?
You're the one that insisted on this conversation happening on the forum.
Edit: and yes, you are condoning mass murder if you feel that Israel is handling this the way it should be.
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I do agree!
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Kittens!
Enjoy your weekend, have a beer, listen to some records, go for a walk
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A lot of Arab Americans in Michigan….
Biden isn’t exactly threading the needle right now
Would hate to see a repeat of 2000 Florida where we lost election due to Elian G.
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I have just about zero national name recognition… maybe I should run for president
Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips announced Thursday night that he would be launching a long-shot Democratic primary challenge to President Joe Biden.
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I have just about zero national name recognition… maybe I should run for president
Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips announced Thursday night that he would be launching a long-shot Democratic primary challenge to President Joe Biden.
Lead singer of Luna, right?
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My understanding is he is the son of the mamas and papas dude. His sister was in Wilson Phillips.
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My understanding is he is the son of the owner of the elite restaurant chain Phillips Seafood, who coincidently is also was the founder of duPont's Philips Collection and more amazingly, his great-granddad was the inventor of the Phillips Screwdriver.
(George Santos told me this, so not sure if it's true)
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Sounds credible!
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My understanding is he is the son of the owner of the elite restaurant chain Phillips Seafood, who coincidently is also was the founder of duPont's Philips Collection and more amazingly, his great-granddad was the inventor of the Phillips Screwdriver.
(George Santos told me this, so not sure if it's true)
oh yeah, space is correct.
he normally doesn't advertise that he took Britta's last name, but the paperwork is out there, I've seen it on Twitter
this guy has some pedigree
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His step-grandmother was also Dear Abby.
Phillips was born to DeeDee (Cohen) and Artie Pfefer in Saint Paul, Minnesota, in 1969.[10] Artie was killed in the Vietnam War when Phillips was six months old. DeeDee later married Eddie Phillips, heir to the Phillips Distilling Company and the son of advice columnist Pauline Phillips.
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In his first interview as a Senate candidate, Peter Meijer says he stands by his vote to impeach Trump *and* will support Trump's 2024 presidential run.
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In his first interview as a Senate candidate, Peter Meijer says he stands by his vote to impeach Trump *and* will support Trump's 2024 presidential run.
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It’s just amazing to see how unpopular Biden is according to polls.
The country is at peace. The country is safe. The economy is managing to continue growing even when everyone believes it should be in a recession.
Yet, it doesn’t resonate.
The current context is beginning to remind me of 2000.
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At my polling place this morning, a nice old lady was collecting signatures to get Biden on the ballot. As we finished talking, she kind of gave a sad "i hope things aren't close". Kind of bummed me out...even she didn't really seem to believe it, at least at this point.
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It’s just amazing to see how unpopular Biden is according to polls.
The country is at peace. The country is safe. The economy is managing to continue growing even when everyone believes it should be in a recession.
Yet, it doesn’t resonate.
The current context is beginning to remind me of 2000.
before freaking out about any polls A YEAR before the election, have a look at the methodologies: those polls still rely largely, or entirely, on cold phone calls to land-lines. so the population polled is land-line owners who are willing to pick up a call from an unknown number... i'll let you infer what age group & demographic that greatly, greatly over-represents.
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I am not freaking but he is unpopular and most think he is too old.
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The answer is: Dean Phillips!
A Luna record in every household!
(his appearance on Maher was pretty sad, but he tried)
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I am not freaking but he is unpopular and most think he is too old.
Inflation is incredibly high. Hunter Biden's behavior was, at best, shady. The climate is on fire. Totalitarianism strongment are winning the world over. Biden has given up on inspiring anyone and has decided to play it safe and be better than the alternative. And add in the fact that he just cannot communicate. Of course he's unpopular, he's not even trying to be popular.
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I am not freaking but he is unpopular and most think he is too old.
Inflation is incredibly high. Hunter Biden's behavior was, at best, shady. The climate is on fire. Totalitarianism strongment are winning the world over. Biden has given up on inspiring anyone and has decided to play it safe and be better than the alternative. And add in the fact that he just cannot communicate. Of course he's unpopular, he's not even trying to be popular.
Basically since Obama, I've given up completely... Couldn't care less who wins at this point. All the front runners are bums.
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looks like your boy Larry Hogan will be on the no labels ticket...
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I am not freaking but he is unpopular and most think he is too old.
Inflation is incredibly high. Hunter Biden's behavior was, at best, shady. The climate is on fire. Totalitarianism strongment are winning the world over. Biden has given up on inspiring anyone and has decided to play it safe and be better than the alternative. And add in the fact that he just cannot communicate. Of course he's unpopular, he's not even trying to be popular.
Basically since Obama, I've given up completely... Couldn't care less who wins at this point. All the front runners are bums.
Trying but can’t blame Biden for any of it….even having a shady son
The most I could blame him for is the additional stimulus check once he took power adding to inflation pressures …but that was a tough call in early 2021…still in retrospect looks like an error… yet the US economy weathered covid better than any other so there is that
One can hardly blame Biden for the March of authoritarianism or climate change…that was already happening and not really things a US President can address by himself
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Being president of the US rules...most powerful person in the world who has exactly zero ability to influence things for the better!
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I am not freaking but he is unpopular and most think he is too old.
Inflation is incredibly high. Hunter Biden's behavior was, at best, shady. The climate is on fire. Totalitarianism strongment are winning the world over. Biden has given up on inspiring anyone and has decided to play it safe and be better than the alternative. And add in the fact that he just cannot communicate. Of course he's unpopular, he's not even trying to be popular.
Basically since Obama, I've given up completely... Couldn't care less who wins at this point. All the front runners are bums.
Trying but can’t blame Biden for any of it….even having a shady son
The most I could blame him for is the additional stimulus check once he took power adding to inflation pressures …but that was a tough call in early 2021…still in retrospect looks like an error… yet the US economy weathered covid better than any other so there is that
One can hardly blame Biden for the March of authoritarianism or climate change…that was already happening and not really things a US President can address by himself
I blame Biden for pleny of policy.
But it's his inability to actually communicate that is the real thing dragging him down. Whatever you think about Trump, he is an effective communiactor.
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Whatever you think about Trump, he is an effective communiactor.
bigly 🙄
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Trump is an effective communicator only in the most blunt way possible. Require him to use any nuance at all and he morphs into static.
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morphs into static.
hey that's the title of my next ep
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Trump is an effective communicator only in the most blunt way possible. Require him to use any nuance at all and he morphs into static.
I can't explain why he's effective. I don't think it should work, but it obviously does. I mean, DeSantis tries to ape him and can't. Same with Cruz and Abbott.
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Being president of the US rules...most powerful person in the world who has exactly zero ability to influence things for the better!
There you go again….there is a big difference between the Biden presidency and the Trump presidency. If you don’t see that…
I mean what do you people want? He should have kidnapped and tortured Manchin until he got his vote on the climate change bill?
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Being president of the US rules...most powerful person in the world who has exactly zero ability to influence things for the better!
There you go again….there is a big difference between the Biden presidency and the Trump presidency. If you don’t see that…
I mean what do you people want? He should have kidnapped and tortured Manchin until he got his vote on the climate change bill?
Biden has tons of executive authorities that he could have used on climate and refused. Staring with EPA refs that have been slow and weaker than necessary, to DOI that has continued to approve drilling, to DOE that is approving gas exports to FERC which stalled its greenhouse gas rules. There is simply no way to say that Biden has been aggressive on the issue or treated it as a crisis. It might be bad politics for him to do so, he certainly thinks it is, but it doesn’t mean he can’t or that young voters scared about the issue don’t see it.
But I still think his biggest issue is communication style. He’s just not been very good at selling what he has done, and ultimately that’s as important as what you’ve actually done.
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Uh oh…you seem to actually know what you are talking about….
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The thing is republican's love to tout the spending of federal money for their states/districts which they voted against. how is biden suppose to counter that...
also, as someone pointed out where was the media coverage of Biden of announcing 16 Billion dollars in infrastructure spending in Delaware the other day. oh wait i'm being told it was more important to provide coverage of someone throwing yet another public tantrum in a courtroom, my bad
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Beshear 2024!
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Not sure who that is but I'm thinking
Whitmer and someone from VA 2024
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Ok, let's put aside for the second that Biden is a) the president of the US, and b) the head of his party, and assume he has no power to pressure anyone on his side of the aisle to fall in line. Seems odd, given history has shown that to be achievable and the Republicans seem to have no problem doing it, but let's present we live in Hutch world.
He'd still have plenty of things he could have done if he had a spine and wasn't so tied to bullshit norms and formality. He could've overruled the parliamentarian and given people the $15 minimum wage Dems have been promising. He could've used the Higher Ed Act to actually make good on his campaign promise to forgive during his campaign. He could've declared the climate collapse as a national emergency.
Not saying any of those guarantees of success or even without legal challenges, but he simply doesn't even want to try.
Being president of the US rules...most powerful person in the world who has exactly zero ability to influence things for the better!
There you go again….there is a big difference between the Biden presidency and the Trump presidency. If you don’t see that…
I mean what do you people want? He should have kidnapped and tortured Manchin until he got his vote on the climate change bill?
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Gavroche had me at hello but you lose me…..
Maybe have Gavroche present your thoughts for you?
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Is your hat on too tight?
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I been going hatless lately….just not feeling it
Baseball cap is loose.
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Beshear 2024!
after hearing his acceptance speech for a state like KY...he has potential as a national candidate
he has my interest piqued.
other than the Dems don't want a white male,
he checks a lot of boxes and got re-elected as Gov in a state that has Mitch/Rand and voted Trump by 30 points in 2016 and 26 points in 2020
Almost all the down-ticket votes went R in KY
edit...not sure why I say "I must say" so much
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I been going hatless lately….just not feeling it
That's why no one got my Hutch Halloween costume...I wore a top hat to a rock show
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I think after last night we won’t see Democratic candidates deviate much from focusing on abortion rights/anti-MAGA “extremism”
In other words it will all be about painting the Republicans as scary and crazy.
Ideally Democrats in swing states will put abortion rights initiatives and measures on the ballot in 2024 to drive up the Biden vote and depress the Republican share.
I have to be honest that having seen the ads Democrats ran in Virginia I find this a bit depressing but that’s politics.
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Meanwhile, back in DC...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-approves-bill-slashing-pete-buttigiegs-salary-1-dollar
The House approved a measure late Tuesday that would slash Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg's taxpayer-funded government salary to just $1.
The bill — which was introduced by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga. — was passed via voice vote Tuesday as an amendment to the 2024 Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, the standalone funding bill for the General Services Administration, Securities and Exchange Commission and other related agencies.
"I’m proud to announce my amendment to FIRE Pete Buttigieg just PASSED the House. Pothole Pete staged fake bike rides to the White House and used private planes funded by taxpayers to receive awards for the way certain people have sex," Greene said in a social media post Tuesday. "American taxpayers should not be on the hook for paying for his lavish trips or his salary."
"Pete Buttigieg doesn’t do his job. It’s all about fake photo ops and taxpayer-funded private jet trip to accept LGBTQ awards for him," Greene added. "I’m happy my amendment passed, but he doesn’t deserve a single penny."
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"used private planes funded by taxpayers to receive awards for the way certain people have sex," Greene said
ok, now you have my attention...are their any opening for this job?
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The thing is republican's love to tout the spending of federal money for their states/districts which they voted against. how is biden suppose to counter that...
also, as someone pointed out where was the media coverage of Biden of announcing 16 Billion dollars in infrastructure spending in Delaware the other day. oh wait i'm being told it was more important to provide coverage of someone throwing yet another public tantrum in a courtroom, my bad
I'm not sure if the politics of spending and government awards work anymore. Wealth inequality and the sense that the system is rigged might have just undone it all.
If the Democrats really wanted that though, it would be smarter to direct spending to winnable states. Instead Democrats keep passing bills (like the IRA and IIJA) where the benefits go predominantely to red states and where they won't get credit no matter what they do. Trump did just the opposite; the bills that has pased going overwhelmingly to his base and targeted his oponents (SALT for example). It's for sure asymetrical. One side is trying to break government in order to take control of it.
I don't really know how Reagan was able to remain pupular despite high inflation, but even if wages were keeping up with inflation, it's just psychologically battering to go to the store and be shocked every time you get the bill. Probably because the economic experts liked his solution of tax cuts and rewards for business and so the narrative was that Regan was fighting it.
I don't think the Republicans really care about touting wins though. For them it's really about culture wars and big ticket issues. I don't think Biden is particularly good at appearing like he's going to the matt for a cause (even abortion). He might win as a result of not alienating anyone, but it's a hard way to ever have real popularity
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Apparently the Transportation bill that look at me MTG got that amendment on, is dead in the water because there aren’t enough vote for it…
But, she’ll go on ever right outlet can spewing this “ achievement”
It’s a darn good thing that they elected such a strong leader… the shutdown will be long and nasty
And I like today’s revelation that reason Johnson isn’t reporting an savings account is because his money isn’t in interest earning ones.. because that isn’t shady at all
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If the Democrats really wanted that though, it would be smarter to direct spending to winnable states. Instead Democrats keep passing bills (like the IRA and IIJA) where the benefits go predominantely to red states and where they won't get credit no matter what they do. Trump did just the opposite; the bills that has pased going overwhelmingly to his base and targeted his oponents (SALT for example).
this is 100% accurate.
Apparently, the IRA is going to benefit states like FL and TX so much, that these states almost don't have to collect taxes there will be so much in the coffer
and not one Red voter in those states will 'reward' the dems for this largesse
but I'm not sure I agree this is what the Dems should do, but it wouldn't hurt to do some 'good things' for the 8 battleground states in the next year
Apparently the Transportation bill that look at me MTG got that amendment on, is dead in the water because there aren’t enough vote for it…
it's all for show and saying they 'did something' when the reality is they did nothing
if it's not going to even pass the house, it's like shouting into the void (or your preferred echo chamber)
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Beshear 2024!
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1722068864693891159?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1722068864693891159%7Ctwgr%5E874e6b8e141341734185ebe2e3fb0bb2e03d6bb2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcurbanmom.com%2Fjforum%2Fposts%2Flist%2F255%2F1166628.page
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Beshear 2024!
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1722068864693891159?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1722068864693891159%7Ctwgr%5E874e6b8e141341734185ebe2e3fb0bb2e03d6bb2%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dcurbanmom.com%2Fjforum%2Fposts%2Flist%2F255%2F1166628.page
yeah, saw something similar last night
Angry Staffer 🌻@Angry_Staffer
Wanna ruin a Republican’s night?
Let ‘em know that the KY Governors Race has predicted the Presidential election in the previous 5 cycles.
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He could've overruled the parliamentarian and given people the $15 minimum wage Dems have been promising. He could've used the Higher Ed Act to actually make good on his campaign promise to forgive during his campaign. He could've declared the climate collapse as a national emergency.
Son, the adults are talking, why don't you run along?
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7.5 million Americans watched latest Republican debate or about 2% of Americans
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12732397/Viewing-figures-Republican-debate-drop-NBC.html
I still have a hard time believing Trump will be the Republican candidate.
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I still have a hard time believing Trump will be the Republican candidate.
you have a hard time, but you know it will happen?
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Bazinga
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Bazinga
thought for sure this was the first time this was used...but appeared many times already
also in related news
Dems are now rushing to get similar abortion measures on the ballot next year in Arizona, Nevada and Florida
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Jill's back!
Jill Stein announced that she is running for president in 2024 as a Green Party candidate.
finally, a candidate that NKOTB can support
well there is Claudia de la Cruz but has attained ballot lines in any states.
so that works out perfectly
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I don’t know that Jill passes NKOTB’s purity test….might as well elect Trump…
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I actually have never voted for Jill Stein, which may surprise Hutch. She kind of lost my interest when she started talking some 9/11 truther-adjacent stuff a few years back. I hadn't seen that she was running again, but I guess that's because Cornel West went from the People's Party (lol) to the Green and then as an independent.
Claudia de la Cruz seems pretty great IMO, but yeah, I don't think PSL gets on the ballot here. I feel like they were on the DC ballot in 2020, but I might be mistaken.
All in all, pretty grim!
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as if the onion was trying to goad NKOTB
The Onion@TheOnion
Critics Warn Jill Stein Candidacy Could Harm Cornel West’s Chances Of Being Elected
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lol we don't need her spoiling the spoiler!!!!
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spoiling the spoiler!!!!
the title of my next ep
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https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/will-joe-manchin-run-for-president-democrats-fear-a-disaster-c19952ec
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https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/will-joe-manchin-run-for-president-democrats-fear-a-disaster-c19952ec
What if everyone abandoned Biden and voted Manchin and he won? Would that beso horrible?
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Well, that hypothetical is impossible so why waste time contemplating it?
One might as well ask what if pigs could fly would that be so bad?
I mean progressives would never vote for him and neither would black people. And there is no way he would peel off enough Republican votes.
The American middle is smaller than ever so this type of run is not plausible. Honestly a Biden primary challenge from the left flank is the most plausible scenario. But it would have to have been AOC and thankfully she is still too young! Hard to believe. Someone like a Bernie but much younger and a female minority could have been a threat….now it’s too late.
Also, is a 76 year old white man the right person to challenge Biden and / or Trump?
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And yes I am home tonight cause I have a memorial service tomorrow morning…
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Also, is a 76 year old white man the right person to challenge Biden and / or Trump?
YES!!!! That is exactly what we need
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Tim Scott has dropped out.
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It seems like Jill Stein is more of a risk to Dems than actual Democrats like Joe Manchin or Dean Phillips
Who would actually vote for those guys?
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It seems like Jill Stein is more of a risk to Dems than actual Democrats like Joe Manchin or Dean Phillips
Who would actually vote for those guys?
I am throwing my 🎩 in the ring…. If I can peel enough votes in Arlington I can throw Virginia to Trump.
Working on my platform
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It seems like Jill Stein is more of a risk to Dems than actual Democrats like Joe Manchin or Dean Phillips
Who would actually vote for those guys?
Jill Stein couldn't help Hillary, she isn't going to be able to help herself (even enough to be a spoiler). I think I'd be concerned most about Cornell West.
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How does RFK Jr play into it?
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How does RFK Jr play into it?
he really only seems to pull votes from trump
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So we should donate to his campaign?
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Jill Stein couldn't help Hillary,
I . . . I don't think she was trying to?
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Jill Stein couldn't help Hillary,
I . . . I don't think she was trying to?
Embarssing slip up on my part, I was thinking of Gloria Steinam! I stand by the rest of the statement though.
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Jill Stein couldn't help Hillary,
I . . . I don't think she was trying to?
Embarssing slip up on my part, I was thinking of Gloria Steinam! I stand by the rest of the statement though.
So refreshing that you just admitted it instead of trying to have an argument for five pages defending the idea that Jill Stein was trying to help Hillary like half of this rabble would do. POTW.
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Crestfallen.
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The Economist with its rosy predictions
The Economist’s annual “World Ahead” guide identifies Donald Trump as the biggest global danger of 2024.
“n the 38 years that we have published this guide, no single person has ever eclipsed our analysis as much as Donald Trump eclipses 2024.”
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/11/16/donald-trump-poses-the-biggest-danger-to-the-world-in-2024
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shame to lose such talent ;)
Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.), who is mounting a long-shot Democratic primary challenge to President Biden, said Friday he won't seek reelection to the House in 2024.
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shame to lose such talent ;)
Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.), who is mounting a long-shot Democratic primary challenge to President Biden, said Friday he won't seek reelection to the House in 2024.
At least he's all in for the Presidency!
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another sign of the Apocalypse
(https://i.imgur.com/EBKWQms.png)
wapo
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another sign of the Apocalypse
(https://i.imgur.com/EBKWQms.png)
wapo
i've been reading a number of articles stating that the US is heading for (if not already in) a dating/marrying/childbearing crisis due to political polarization. specifically, left-leaning women are refusing to date right-leaning men. example meta-article: The Washington Post is very worried that American women don't want to marry Trump supporters (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/11/26/2207925/-The-Washington-Post-is-very-worried-that-American-women-don-t-want-to-marry-Trump-supporters).
of the 3 or 4 articles on the topic i've read, the proposed solution is either unknowable or for women to compromise. not a single one posited that these right-wing dudes could find romantic success by abandoning their support for anti-abortion policies, cuts to social spending, increased gun rights, and other regressive policies.
incels going mainstream on the right...
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The Washington Post is very worried that American women don't want to marry Trump supporters
well in playing the long game, this tactic will work in 20-25 years as we'll use natural selection to remove them from the population
might be a little longer as we have to wait for all the living not dateable to expire too
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another sign of the Apocalypse
(https://i.imgur.com/EBKWQms.png)
wapo
i've been reading a number of articles stating that the US is heading for (if not already in) a dating/marrying/childbearing crisis due to political polarization. specifically, left-leaning women are refusing to date right-leaning men. example meta-article: The Washington Post is very worried that American women don't want to marry Trump supporters (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/11/26/2207925/-The-Washington-Post-is-very-worried-that-American-women-don-t-want-to-marry-Trump-supporters).
of the 3 or 4 articles on the topic i've read, the proposed solution is either unknowable or for women to compromise. not a single one posited that these right-wing dudes could find romantic success by abandoning their support for anti-abortion policies, cuts to social spending, increased gun rights, and other regressive policies.
incels going mainstream on the right...
I guess that's good news for my to the right of her parents daughter?
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yeah, she'll have her pick of all the right-wing douchebags... have at!
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yeah, she'll have her pick of all the right-wing douchebags... have at!
There's plenty of fine people who lean left and plenty of fine people who lean right. There's plenty of douchebags throughout the political spectrum as well. I'm hoping she ends up with one of the fine people, which is more important than their politics.
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yeah, she'll have her pick of all the right-wing douchebags... have at!
There's plenty of fine people who lean left and plenty of fine people who lean right. There's plenty of douchebags throughout the political spectrum as well. I'm hoping she ends up with one of the fine people, which is more important than their politics.
with today's trends, you'll be lucky to get grandkids
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You really can’t be a “fine” person and vote Republican.
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You really can’t be a “fine” person and vote Republican.
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(https://media.tenor.com/paei15OfyHEAAAAd/spaceballs-right.gif)
You really can’t be a “fine” person and vote Republican.
Nah guys. There are very fine people on both sides.
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You really can’t be a “fine” person and vote Republican.
If you had said vote Trump, I would have to agree. I'm not going to cut out all of the right-leaning (not right-nutters, right-leaning) people in the world as bad people. There are plenty of right leaning men who will make excellent husbands and fathers.
This is probably a good litmus test though: I don't have a problem with you marrying someone right of center, but please don't marry anyone who voted for Trump in 2024.
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You really can’t be a “fine” person and vote Republican.
If you had said vote Trump, I would have to agree. I'm not going to cut out all of the right-leaning (not right-nutters, right-leaning) people in the world as bad people. That's pretty narrow minded. There are plenty of right leaning men who will make excellent husbands and fathers.
This is probably a good litmus test though: I don't have a problem with you marrying someone right of center, but please don't marry anyone who voted for Trump in 2024.
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It’s not narrow minded.
At best these people are stupid and/or ignorant.
At worse traitors and/or cruel and/or bigoted.
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This could definitely help get the house back to the democrats
New York's highest court, has greenlit Dems drawing a new congressional map in the state in a 4-3 ruling.
This will allow Dems to draw a friendlier map & gain bunch of seats in House.
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Gerrymandering is great……when it benefits the party I support
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Shhh, not supposed to say that out loud
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Oh man this is gonna be one wild election cycle
Maine just removed Trump from their ballot
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Primary ballots...can't see that stopping him being the nominee
Oh man this is gonna be one wild election cycle
Maine just removed Trump from their ballot
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Primary ballots...can't see that stopping him being the nominee
Oh man this is gonna be one wild election cycle
Maine just removed Trump from their ballot
Would this not also remove him from the general, even if he's the GOP nominee?
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Primary ballots...can't see that stopping him being the nominee
Oh man this is gonna be one wild election cycle
Maine just removed Trump from their ballot
Would this not also remove him from the general, even if he's the GOP nominee?
well, while I always hate to admit it, NKTOB is right
just primary
I think the GOP could nominate anyone if they want to regardless of what the states do
it's weird, you think it would be bad news for stuff like this to happen to a POTUS candidate, but if anything, it looks like it will bring people to the polls
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Voting still happens at the state level. Trump might have to get on the general election ballot as an independent or a write-in, but he wouldn't appear as a Republican. I think. Just spitballing here, could be wrong.
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Ithankyou
well, while I always hate to admit it, NKTOB is right
just primary
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Primary ballots...can't see that stopping him being the nominee
not unless a lot more states join in on not having him on the ballot. he can easily still get the nom without CO and ME.
I think the GOP could nominate anyone if they want to regardless of what the states do
wait, are you suggesting that the GOP could put forth a candidate for the general election even if that candidate didn't win their primary? i.e., "eff you republican primary voters, we're going with our guy over who you chose"??
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Well, maybe not.
I was thinking how they didn't hold primaries in many states for the GOP because he was the incumbent
didn't realize that was standard in both parties and over time
But I could see that if he's off the ballot on a few states and wins a majority of the others, they would pull something like that
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Not to revisit the Dems in 2008 but there’s absolutely a path where a party could put forth a nominee who did not win the required primaries. There’s so much political fanfic written about this.
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Lol but the vast majority of Republican voters want him to be the nominee
i.e., "eff you republican primary voters, we're going with our guy over who you chose"??
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Lol but the vast majority of Republican voters want him to be the nominee
i.e., "eff you republican primary voters, we're going with our guy over who you chose"??
i'm not saying otherwise. i was trying to understand the hypothetical put forward by hatch, wherein the candidate in the general isn't the winner of the party's primary.
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man, this is just going to keep getting uglier
I agree with it, but it will defiantly bring ALL the crazies to the polls
we just have to hope there are more level-headed Americans...and I'm not sure there are
@AP
Lawsuit aims to keep Pennsylvania congressman off ballot over Constitution’s insurrection clause
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also, swift is leaning on the scale again...and lots of her fans now are voting age as well
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GCyC6OEXkAAtKgt?format=jpg&name=900x900)
although didn't help with Mitch
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Iowa caucus in 11 days
interesting note on NH happening on jan 23
Ballots in New Hampshire will feature 24 Republican candidates and 21 Democratic candidates (and not Biden)
buy stock in Orville Redenbacher
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I think this is a great, not sure how he'll be, what a great story
running in MD 3rd district
U.S. Capitol against a rioting mob on Jan. 6, former U.S. Capitol Police Officer Harry Dunn announced that he’s running for Congress.
his campaign add is great
https://x.com/libradunn/status/1743234238290198748?s=20
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With Nikki nipping at his heels, Trump pulls out one of his deep cuts and cries Birther!
Guy is such a dicka and that’s why they love him
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And crispy Christy drops out
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(https://64.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq2wlchVjr1qk2qdbo3_500.gif)
With Nikki nipping at his heels
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I agree polls suck, but no one has gotten even close to 30 points behind him, she just was only 7 points behind.
Jan. 4-8 University of New Hampshire Survey Center Trump 39% 32% Haley Trump +7
yes nationally it's like a 50 point lead, but Haley beating trump in NH could actually have a big impact
Also, I loved the mic drop moment of Hunter walking out just as MTG was starting to speak
boss move
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Congressional main accomplishment YTD is not shutting down the government
How low a bar do we need to set
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Welp we know who the gop candidate is now
BREAKING: Nikki Haley gets all six votes in Dixville Notch.
Haley: 100%
Trump: 0%
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Rigged!!!!
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Welp we know who the gop candidate is now
BREAKING: Nikki Haley gets all six votes in Dixville Notch.
Haley: 100%
Trump: 0%
"once again, the fake mainstream news is flogging their fake stories about me. this is a travesty of justice like you've never seen before. they love me in Dixville, they adore me there, some say the town was named after me..."
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So do we even think Haley can last a month to her home state primary and super tue
It was closer than I expected, but NH is a unique state for the GOP
The GOP can’t quit Trump, he brings people to the polls
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The GOP can’t quit Trump, he brings people to the polls
supposedly because of his milkshake. it's better than yours.
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The GOP can’t quit Trump, he brings people to the polls
supposedly because of his milkshake. it's better than yours.
He could apprentice thee, but would have to levy a fee.
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Biden got more write-in votes in New Hampshire then Trump did
and to put the Iowa Caucus shit show in perspective Muriel Bowser once got more primary votes then Trump managed in Iowa...
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Biden got more write-in votes in New Hampshire then Trump did
and to put the Iowa Caucus shit show in perspective Muriel Bowser once got more primary votes then Trump managed in Iowa...
The DC primary for mayor IS the official election compared to a caucus
not a very 🍎 to 🍏
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True the vote has told a Georgia judge that it doesn’t have evidence to support its claims of illegal ballot stuffing during the the 2020 general election and a runoff two months later.
Hate those folks and irrevocable damage done
Can’t tell how many people have used their bs as “evidence of fraud “. When in fact they were the fraud all along
Like project veratis a bunch of scammers who have zero issue lying
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Can’t imagine the party of Lincoln will take this well
Documents reveal Abraham Lincoln pardoned Biden’s great-great-grandfather
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No Labels Will Abandon 2024 Presidential Campaign Effort
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I just don’t see how Biden can lose unless something truly insane happens
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/05/heres-where-the-jobs-are-for-march-2024-in-one-chart-in-one-chart.html
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I just don’t see how Biden can lose unless something truly insane happens
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/05/heres-where-the-jobs-are-for-march-2024-in-one-chart-in-one-chart.html
gas prices, unfortunately.
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also, there is this stubborn perception that the american economy is tanking (https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/04/biden-us-economy-worlds-best-trump-claims-cesspool-data-is-clear.html), even tho it's actually doing great. biden needs to get better messaging around this.
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Dude you are just regurgitating conventional “wisdom”
Gas prices in April aren’t going to decide election for lots of reasons.
Now if the Middle East continues going to hell…we will have bigger problems than “gas prices”
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gas is one, but grocery prices have definitely shot up 20-25% in the last few years and that's adding $500 a month or more to avg Americans monthly costs
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I mean I agree there has been unusual inflation but in the context of Covid stimulus - nobody turned down their checks as I recall- and of having the world’s best performing economy.
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I mean it didn’t cost democrats much when it was raging and now that wage growth is higher than inflation and millions more are employed it’s going to cost Biden the presidency? It beggars belief
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This is bad news
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-gop-election-workers-2024-rcna148620
Thread appropriate :
even using apocalyptic language to warn of another potential loss.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/26/allan-lichtman-prediction-presidential-election
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The Columbia protestors kind of remind me of the January 6 goons.
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The Columbia protestors kind of remind me of the January 6 goons.
Don’t get me started…..just don’t
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I will say this: just imagine paying 100K a year to send your kid to Columbia only to have protesters turn it into a shanty town and force the university to “conduct” online classes.
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See what you did! I couldn’t resist
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The Columbia protestors kind of remind me of the January 6 goons.
Holy shit this would have been an epic 10,000th post. So close! I am giddy with excrement. Today's the day, boys.
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The Columbia protestors kind of remind me of the January 6 goons.
Holy shit this would have been an epic 10,000th post. So close! I am giddy with excrement. Today's the day, boys.
Damn autocorrect
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lol
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The Columbia protestors kind of remind me of the January 6 goons.
don't feed the trolls.
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1785312037964255498
10K baby
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/
10K baby
Hmm...this page doesn’t exist.
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/
10K baby
Hmm...this page doesn’t exist.
Sorry, fixed it
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10,000th post and you use it to share that dummy?
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1785312037964255498
10K baby
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Whatta letdown
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10,000th post and you use it to share that dummy?
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1785312037964255498
10K baby
Sorry, Ween was never my scene and I don't like Star Wars.
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OK Space, start a new account and get a third one to 10K. I feel you can do it.
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OK Space, start a new account and get a third one to 10K. I feel you can do it.
Nah, I like the Space Freely moniker too much to change.
I don't keep track, but I think there would be at least three already, between Rhett Miller, James Ford (rip), Charlie Nakatestes and Space Freely?
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I don't keep track, but I think there would be at least three already, between Rhett Miller, James Ford (rip), Charlie Nakatestes and Space Freely?
Not all of those were separate accounts -- display names can be changed without making a new account -- and even if they were, they weren't 10K+ accounts.
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I don't keep track, but I think there would be at least three already, between Rhett Miller, James Ford (rip), Charlie Nakatestes and Space Freely?
Not all of those were separate accounts -- display names can be changed without making a new account -- and even if they were, they weren't 10K+ accounts.
I doubt I have another 10K in me. I mean, it took 9.5 yrs to hit 10K with this one. Will this board even exist in 9.5 years?
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Getting this back on topic...saw this cool guy parked in a lot near me a few weeks back:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tThM5QLb/437127006-411265338322167-7075753089206943867-n.jpg)
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Getting this back on topic...saw this cool guy parked in a lot near me a few weeks back:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tThM5QLb/437127006-411265338322167-7075753089206943867-n.jpg)
You'd think that will all of the money in that family, he'd be able to afford a nicer trailer.
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Boy, this one belongs in about half a dozen threads
RFK Jr. Says Doctors Found a Dead Worm in His Brain (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/08/us/rfk-jr-brain-health-memory-loss.html)
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Boy, this one belongs in about half a dozen threads
RFK Jr. Says Doctors Found a Dead Worm in His Brain (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/08/us/rfk-jr-brain-health-memory-loss.html)
(https://i.ibb.co/3Smm9f2/IMG-6985.jpg) (https://x.com/susannecraig/status/1788162985527058703)
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Wow, I definitely read that as "dead woman in his brain" and thought, top that, uncle Teddy.
Oof though Ted did die of a brain tumor.
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hmm, wonder what portion it ate and how much?
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Not even a top 3 Kennedy head injury all time.
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Not even a top 3 Kennedy head injury all time.
Nice. That one is comedy club worthy.
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Not even a top 3 Kennedy head injury all time.
Nice. That one is comedy club worthy.
*pushes hand buzzer that robotically says Julian Vanderbilt between every joke*
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dude running against hogan in MD primary posts ad on Twitter listing his number one priority as border security which leads to hilarious responses like
I was unaware people in Maryland hated Virginia that much.
Lmao what border? What is Pennsylvania gonna do?
The border is not good! Delaware shouldn't exist! Maryland's natural borders are at the sea!
Defend the northern border from those Pennsylvania carpetbaggers!
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1790715224825180199
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Trone reportedly spent 60 million of his own money only to lose that primary by 10 points :o Of course quite frankly it was getting rather annoying to get an almost daily a flyer in the mail from him, plus constant YouTube ads...
Hopefully Alsobrooke and the Dems, don't take anything for granted and run a very strong campaign going forward, especially in the redder parts of the state.. last thing we need is a bunch of Dems getting all wishy washy and voting for Hogan, who will absolute not be a moderate in the Senate... don't think Baltimore will likely forget how he screwed over the city
one interesting tidbit Alsobrooke got more votes than all of the Republican candidates put together in her primary
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How did he screw over Baltimore?
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off the top of my head he cancelled the expansion of the Red Line in their subway system which would have benefitted the poor areas of Baltimore, and diverted the money by to improve roads in white areas..
he also cut money going to the Baltimore School system, but then approved money to build a youth jail there..
Much of it laid out here
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/07/18/how-larry-hogan-kept-black-baltimore-segregated-and-poor-367930
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unfortunately voters rarely do any homework
this is an interesting article, as there were MANY positions Hogan took and Vetoed, but the Vetos were overridden by the state congress
therefore forgotten by most that he was not with the majority in his stance
https://www.marylandmatters.org/2024/02/26/commentary-a-look-at-larry-hogans-record-on-key-issues/
he tried to veto 44k felons (who were out or on parole) from voting, but congress overruled and reinstated those voters
but shows his colors on how he thinks about giving citizens access to voting (i.e. he only wants those who might vote GOP to have rights)
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Yeah pretty atrocious record….funny how he is one of the “good” republicans
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one interesting tidbit Alsobrooke got more votes than all of the Republican candidates put together in her primary
Also, Trone the Loser got more votes than Hogan.
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Yeah was going to mention Trone’s, but he didn’t quite top all Republican votes, just Hogan
Also Haley got 20% of the vote
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David Trone and the history of candidates lighting their money on fire (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/15/senate-trone-funding/)
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Oh no, not john palmer (guy really doesn't look samonian?)
American Samoa primary victor Jason Palmer bows out of the presidential race
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bleach blond, bad-built butch body
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bleach blond, bad-built butch body
https://x.com/acyn/status/1791314730063466704?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
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bleach blond, bad-built butch body
https://x.com/acyn/status/1791314730063466704?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
Moar: Greene vs. Crockett: Congresswomen join men of the House in bad behavior (https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/05/17/jasmie-crockett-marjorie-taylor-greene/)
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bleach blond, bad-built butch body
Listen, we aren’t going to disrespect Seth on his own forum, ok?
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bleach blond, bad-built butch body
Listen, we aren’t going to disrespect Seth on his own forum, ok?
Not to mention his fake eyelashes.
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UK conservatives are going for the youth vote by announcing they will enact one year mandatory national service for eighteen years old if elected
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The horror.
Do 17 year olds vote in the UK?
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UK conservatives are going for the youth vote by announcing they will enact one year mandatory national service for eighteen years old if elected
Labour were already going to dominate this election. Sunak has massively miscalculated calling for this election any sooner than he had to. Not sure what was going to change by December, but . . .
That said, for 96% of 18YOs, this would be one weekend a month volunteering at a charity or doing some civil service. Not exactly what most have in mind when they hear “one year mandatory national service.” It’s like “200 hours community service,” if we are being fair.
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I wish we had one month campaigns here….
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Meet this guy...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fake-news-sites-florida-deputy-sheriff-russia-rcna154315
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I wish we had one month campaigns here….
I agree, I think national service should be a thing in the US
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Frosty Fingers better get those dialing fingers warmed up...
Roanoke College Poll: Biden and Trump tied in Virginia
https://www.roanoke.edu/news/rc_poll_politics_may_2024
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You have got to be kidding me…
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You have got to be kidding me…
Take seriously no polls that have 20% of respondents pick “other” or a third-party candidate.
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Oh I am not…
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Why can't we have a Jewish woman with a PhD in environmental engineering as our president-elect?
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Why can't we have a Jewish woman with a PhD in environmental engineering as our president-elect?
because she was born in Mexico, but I support getting these kind of candidates
I do find it shocking that Mexico elected someone with this background...especially the Jewish part
the other candidate must have been a shitshow
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Americans love cops and rich people. Everybody else can go to hell.
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Why can't we have a Jewish woman with a PhD in environmental engineering as our president-elect?
because she was born in Mexico, but I support getting these kind of candidates
I do find it shocking that Mexico elected someone with this background...especially the Jewish part
the other candidate must have been a shitshow
They elected her as the successor to Lopez Obrador.
She may sound great based on gender/profession but if Lopez Obrador - a virtual communist- is selecting you….
I do find it pitiful that we haven’t had a female president but the emails…. Hillary would have been great.
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Americans tend to forget what the left is in Latin America and think it’s like our democrats when it’s Chavez, Evo, Cuba, Kirchner, Ortega etc
It is way to the left of Bernie Sanders
The left in Latin America is nothing but poverty.
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Americans love cops
except when they're defending the Capitol, or a BLM rally
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Americans love cops
except when they're defending the Capitol, or a BLM rally
True, but ordinarily, conservatives would give up God before giving up cops.
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I really do think Biden should be hitting Trump harder right now…mock him..run national ads on tv “do we want a convicted felon as pres?”
https://theankler.com/p/take-the-attack-to-the-next-level?r=23exy&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
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I really do think Biden should be hitting Trump harder right now…mock him..run national ads on tv “do we want a convicted felon as pres?”
https://theankler.com/p/take-the-attack-to-the-next-level?r=23exy&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true
49% of Americans still don't even believe he committed the crimes.
The recent survey found that about half, 51 percent, of Americans believe Trump committed the crimes of which he was convicted: falsifying business records to cover up hush money payments ahead of the 2016 election.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4705395-gop-felons-president-trump-conviction-poll/#:~:text=Thirty%2Dthree%20percent%20of%20independents,compared%20to%20a%20February%20poll.
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I really do think Biden should be hitting Trump harder right now…mock him...
i suspect they'll get around to that, for now joe & co are still riding the memorial day thing and hitting trump on something that his base (supposedly) cares about:
New Biden ad attacks Trump over past comments about veterans (https://www.axios.com/2024/06/07/veteran-biden-ad-trump-comments)
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I really do think Biden should be hitting Trump harder right now…mock him...
i suspect they'll get around to that, for now joe & co are still riding the memorial day thing and hitting trump on something that his base (supposedly) cares about:
New Biden ad attacks Trump over past comments about veterans (https://www.axios.com/2024/06/07/veteran-biden-ad-trump-comments)
Well that’s stupid. The time to hit him about being a felon was right when he got convicted. It’s going to die down and will look a bit desperate later….
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I really do think Biden should be hitting Trump harder right now…mock him...
i suspect they'll get around to that, for now joe & co are still riding the memorial day thing and hitting trump on something that his base (supposedly) cares about:
New Biden ad attacks Trump over past comments about veterans (https://www.axios.com/2024/06/07/veteran-biden-ad-trump-comments)
Well that’s stupid. The time to hit him about being a felon was right when he got convicted. It’s going to die down and will look a bit desperate later….
It needs to sink in with the MAGA crowd; they need to go through some stages of grief first so that their resolve is weakened. Sentencing next month will reinforce it. Then start hammering.
If just 10% of MAGA turns on him, Trump is toast.
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It's really a shame that only the weakest of the four trials will ever happen, unless Biden wins.
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Geez…Larry Sabato’s latest newsletter….depressing
How is Trump supposedly doing better than 2016 or 2020? I refuse to believe it.
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Geez…Larry Sabato’s latest newsletter….depressing
How is Trump supposedly doing better than 2016 or 2020? I refuse to believe it.
Better organization?
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Geez…Larry Sabato’s latest newsletter….depressing
How is Trump supposedly doing better than 2016 or 2020? I refuse to believe it.
even though I think Biden has done a great job
but feel like he isn't looking as good as himself in 2020 or Hil in 2016
The Maga base is charged....whether that will actually turn into votes is another thing
all focus should be on battleground stages and ignore the other 44
I still can't belive the law and order crowd is lining up to vote for a convicted felon
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Geez…Larry Sabato’s latest newsletter….depressing
How is Trump supposedly doing better than 2016 or 2020? I refuse to believe it.
even though I think Biden has done a great job
but feel like he isn't looking as good as himself in 2020 or Hil in 2016
The Maga base is charged....whether that will actually turn into votes is another thing
all focus should be on battleground stages and ignore the other 44
I still can't belive the law and order crowd is lining up to vote for a convicted felon
It's only a felony if they believe it's actually a crime. If he can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and still get their vote, a few white collar crimes certainly don't matter, unless it's a Democrat accused of them.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/8tqo0d.jpg)
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Yeah, i'm not sure why this is a hard concept for people to get. It's like the "gotcha" of Republicans railing against the deficit and then exploded said deficit when they're in power. Just like Biden basically doing everything Trump did with immigration...it's all only bad when it's the other team.
It's only a felony if they believe it's actually a crime. If he can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and still get their vote, a few white collar crimes certainly don't matter, unless it's a Democrat accused of them.
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Yeah, i'm not sure why this is a hard concept for people to get. It's like the "gotcha" of Republicans railing against the deficit and then exploded said deficit when they're in power. Just like Biden basically doing everything Trump did with immigration...it's all only bad when it's the other team.
It's only a felony if they believe it's actually a crime. If he can shoot someone on 6th Avenue and still get their vote, a few white collar crimes certainly don't matter, unless it's a Democrat accused of them.
Is Biden putting kids in cages?
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I’ve seen this type of crap at sporting events too. Home fans are all ‘hurray’ when their team scores and then get upset when the other team scores. Or they say refs suck when their team gets called for a foul, but then have no problem when the opponent is called for the same foul. It’s outrageous.
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Well I am curious if under Biden thousands of kids have been separated from their parents?
Also, and I could see it, are people being caged in the same conditions?
Do democrats pay to send illegal immigrants to DC, NYC, Chicago?
I think being a convicted felon will have no impact on his base. That was always a given. It is a cult and as Limbaugh once said “Only Trump can release them”…
But on voters in the middle or undecided or undecided on whether to bother voting for Trump? Yes, I think it will have impact. A lot of voters are older people and they may not quite be as jaded about white collar felonies. In a close election all impact is theoretically determinative. My kid told me Lieberman cost Gore the election in Florida by going after video game manufacturers and instituting the ratings system etc. When the difference is only 547 votes out of millions sure it could be determinative!
I don’t believe the polls at this point. I think Biden will win by a few points but not going to lie that Sabato’s note gave me concern. Biden hasn’t consolidated his base yet. It will happen. The little bit of independents, moderates and undecideds will with go Biden or stay home overwhelmingly. And I don’t think they can count on digging up more of Trump’s base. Those people all voted in 2016 and 2020.
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Come on! Democrats would never have a convicted felon as their candidate!
Again the whole democrats and republicans are the same shit…
Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden. Is he a nepobaby? Sure but that doesn’t make Joe responsible for him lying on a firm to get a gun. Personally I don’t think much of Hunter but he is not the candidate.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56491941
Is Biden putting kids in cages?
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Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.
Those are not cages. Plastic pods is what they are called. For sure it’s not a Julian’s America country club.
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I alluded to older voters above
https://www.newsweek.com/older-voters-donald-trump-2024-election-polls-1911778
Don’t put stock in polls before Labor Day. It’s just too early. But it’s still worrying to read Sabato.
I realize am posting a link to polls while saying they don’t matter….there’s a lot at stake and it’s hard for even me to ignore the noise
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. But it’s still worrying to read Sabato.
interesting is when I did a search the top hits for sabato's missive were Newsmax and Washinton Examiner
We really need Pennsylvania, that's everything in my eyes (of course Michigan, and Wisconsin too)
I think all monies in the DNC need to be focused on those areas
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Right back atcha, buddy.
https://x.com/i/status/1801308745651339374
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No, school's out for summer
Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.
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No, school's out for summer
Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.
This is an outrage!!!
Kosmo, do something!!
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No, school's out for summer
Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.
This is an outrage!!!
Kosmo, do something!!
Nope too busy going through Chappel Roan’s oeuvre
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Checks out
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No, school's out for summer
Answer all my questions NKOTB. Don’t be selective.
This is an outrage!!!
Kosmo, do something!!
Nope too busy going through Chappel Roan’s oeuvre
had yet to get to reviewing the oeuvre of Chappel Roan...but this showed up in my feed today
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQKkC4KW4AEQcZV?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
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@ChappellRoan
pays homage to drag legend Divine at Kentuckiana Pride!
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Unless she ate dog shit, on stage, then next. The song was Lana Del Rey 2.0.
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The first Maryland poll since the general election was set:
Angela Alsobrooks (D) leads Larry Hogan (R) 45/34.
Source
https://x.com/taniel/status/1805222955212738828?s=61&t=aC53VEW254Ke3KnST_1zbw
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More details
Much has been made of Hogan’s popularity in the state, but Alsobrooks actually has a net favorability rating 10 points better than his. She comes in at +27 (43/16) compared to his +17 (50/33). Hogan has a base issue with 26% of Republicans viewing him negatively compared to only 8% of Democrats who see Alsobrooks in a bad light. That dynamic helps explain why Libertarian Mike Scott is getting 3%.
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Huge Mike Scott fan here. He has relevant experience as a Regional Manager of a mid-level paper supply company and is a winner of multiple Dundees.
More details
Much has been made of Hogan’s popularity in the state, but Alsobrooks actually has a net favorability rating 10 points better than his. She comes in at +27 (43/16) compared to his +17 (50/33). Hogan has a base issue with 26% of Republicans viewing him negatively compared to only 8% of Democrats who see Alsobrooks in a bad light. That dynamic helps explain why Libertarian Mike Scott is getting 3%.
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Huge Mike Scott fan here. He has relevant experience as a Regional Manager of a mid-level paper supply company and is a winner of multiple Dundees.
More details
Much has been made of Hogan’s popularity in the state, but Alsobrooks actually has a net favorability rating 10 points better than his. She comes in at +27 (43/16) compared to his +17 (50/33). Hogan has a base issue with 26% of Republicans viewing him negatively compared to only 8% of Democrats who see Alsobrooks in a bad light. That dynamic helps explain why Libertarian Mike Scott is getting 3%.
And who doesn't love the Waterboys?
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Huge Mike Scott fan here. He has relevant experience as a Regional Manager of a mid-level paper supply company and is a winner of multiple Dundees.
More details
Much has been made of Hogan’s popularity in the state, but Alsobrooks actually has a net favorability rating 10 points better than his. She comes in at +27 (43/16) compared to his +17 (50/33). Hogan has a base issue with 26% of Republicans viewing him negatively compared to only 8% of Democrats who see Alsobrooks in a bad light. That dynamic helps explain why Libertarian Mike Scott is getting 3%.
And who doesn't love the Waterboys?
Would Mike Scott like Mike Scott?
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This doesn’t look good
https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-presidential-election-isnt-a
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You gotta admit this is pretty funny:
"In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president...Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/
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Insert Mencken quote
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Whoa, bad form, hutch
“On one issue, at least, men and women agree: they both distrust women.”
Insert Mencken quote
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The other one…
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Insert Mencken quote
Here are some notable quotes by H.L. Mencken:
"A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin."
"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance."
"Life is a constant oscillation between the sharp horns of dilemmas."
"The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself."
"A man may be a fool and not know it, but not if he is married."
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
"I know some who are constantly drunk on books as other men are drunk on whiskey."
"The older I grow, the more I distrust the familiar doctrine that age brings wisdom."
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people."
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For being a dude who ran a Jewish department store in NYC, this guy sure seems to pop off on a variety of topics.
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https://quoteinvestigator.com/2020/03/01/underestimate/?amp=1
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Nyt stirs the pot
https://x.com/marikakatanuma/status/1808515061750939989
https://x.com/andrewjbates46/status/1808515890004050293
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You gotta admit this is pretty funny:
"In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president...Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/
That's what happens when one candidate can speak and the other can't. Up becomes down and vice versa.
They are convinced that the charges against Trump are political retribution and a threat to Democracy.
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You gotta admit this is pretty funny:
"In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president...Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/
That's what happens when one candidate can speak and the other can't. Up becomes down and vice versa.
They are convinced that the charges against Trump are political retribution and a threat to Democracy.
Just provably false as the same thing happened with Hillary.
And to say Trump can speak? You serious? He sounds like a blubbering idiot.
The issue with Biden is not whether he can speak - why do so many miss this- but whether he is showing signs of dementia.
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Welp in the UK they elected Keir Starmer
So that’s a step in the right direction
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You gotta admit this is pretty funny:
"In six swing states that Biden narrowly won in 2020, a little more than half of voters classified as likely to decide the presidential election say threats to democracy are extremely important to their vote for president...Yet, more of them trust Trump to handle those threats than Biden."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/06/26/biden-trump-swing-state-poll-democracy/
That's what happens when one candidate can speak and the other can't. Up becomes down and vice versa.
They are convinced that the charges against Trump are political retribution and a threat to Democracy.
Just provably false as the same thing happened with Hillary.
And to say Trump can speak? You serious? He sounds like a blubbering idiot.
The issue with Biden is not whether he can speak - why do so many miss this- but whether he is showing signs of dementia.
I think Biden is going to lose, and that he's going to lose pretty significantly (6 or 7 percent nationally). Trump is now above 50%, signaling that a bunch of voters have made peace with voting for him. I think that'll be hard to undo without some sort of economic miracle. I'll work as hard as I can for Biden though, because I hate the alternative.
Unfortunately, I also think Biden is the Dems best chance at this point unless they were going to bring in a Kasich type. I don't see Kamala or anyone else attracting the moderate R's that have made their peace with Trump. I think a more progressive candidate could have won if they had a year to get out their message, but not now. I also don't think Biden will quite, so the conversations about him doing so to save the country are actually self-defeating because they help Trump.
As for Biden, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't actually have dementia. I think his inability to sell his agenda publicly has been undermining him his whole Presidency, even before that debate debacle. Otherwise, how do you explain that you think his Presidency has been objectively great but no one thinks so? Obama and Biden could have exactly the same policies but Obama's ability to sell them helped with the perception that things were going well. Biden was losing before the debate and it's why that debate was so damaging. Regan had dementia and was able to hide it because he was a naturally talented communicator. We've had incapacitated President's in the past and the institution was able to function. It's no ideal at all, but it's better than a fascist, so we look to Biden irregardless of his potential dementia.
Hillary is a slightly different phenomenom (and that it was an earlier and less perfected stage of disinformation). People distrusted Hillary from year's of scandals involving Bill. The noise fit into a narrative that everyone already sort of felt. If anything things have gotten more separated now, and so it's easier to have disinformation.
As for Trump... I can't explain it, but there is no doubt that people have always found him compelling. He has a natural ability to draw attention.
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Anybody seen the Lord Almighty this morning?
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Anybody seen the Lord Almighty this morning?
If you're reading this, you're one of the Left Behind.
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Well look on the bright side…always look on the bright side
This is the last time anybody over 77 gets nominated for president.
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Anybody seen the Lord Almighty this morning?
If you're reading this, you're one of the Left Behind.
is this why Kirk Cameron was leaving CA?
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Anybody seen the Lord Almighty this morning?
If you're reading this, you're one of the Left Behind.
is this why Kirk Cameron was leaving CA?
Didn't he just get his ass handed back to him in England?
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Michelle Obama / George Clooney 2024
Let’s do this
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So this is how it ends? Amazing
I am at the anger stage right now.
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Still seeing polls coming out showing Biden with a slight edge nationally….for whatever that’s worth…
I wonder if most people give a shit if Biden mixes up names?
Every day that passes it’s harder to replace Joe Biden.
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@MacFarlaneNews
Latest tally of House GOP bills re: Trump
1) Rename Dulles Airport after Trump
2) Prevent judges from issuing Trump gag orders
3) Issues Trump a Congressional Gold Medal
4) Issue $500 bills w/ Trump's picture
5) Name US coastal waters after Trump
6) Expunge Trump impeachments
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@MacFarlaneNews
Latest tally of House GOP bills re: Trump
1) Rename Dulles Airport after Trump
2) Prevent judges from issuing Trump gag orders
3) Issues Trump a Congressional Gold Medal
4) Issue $500 bills w/ Trump's picture
5) Name US coastal waters after Trump
6) Expunge Trump impeachments
Cannot wait!!!
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(https://i.ibb.co/1LK6bqL/IMG-3109.png) (https://ibb.co/FKJVnwK)
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He just, won.
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You have spoken to the doctors, yes?
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No, but this will be the rally cry his devotees will need to carry him across the line. The reaction on social media, says it all. Some are even claiming, it was staged.
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Looked like WWE bit
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His idiot devotees don't need a rallying cry.
No, but this will be the rally cry his devotees will need to carry him across the line. The reaction on social media, says it all. Some are even claiming, it was staged.
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First Dr. Ruth, then Richard Simmons, now this shit.
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I don’t know what’s worse
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I guess we can take a brief break from talking about Biden being old….
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Crooks shot a crook.
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Peak Lone Wolf
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Looked like WWE bit
Word is it was glass from the teleprompter being hit, not a bullet wound
But internet?
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Man what a brutal few weeks
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/judge-dismisses-classified-documents-indictment-against-trump/ar-BB1q0XYW
This country’s judiciary is a frickin disgrace. They make it up as they go along…
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ruling that special counsel Jack Smith was improperly appointed
Cannon said that, after “careful study,” she determined that no legal statute grants an attorney general authority to appoint a federal officer with the “kind of prosecutorial power wielded by Special Counsel Smith.”
this is insane
Not that he didn't break the law, but that smith was 'improperly appointed"
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some of the chatter from the talking heads is that this is a good development, since now the case can be appealed to the (11th?) circuit and it's out of the hands of "judge" cannon. it was unlikely she was going to let the case play out, so this is merely the inevitable. bad part is that this throws a huge delay into the proceedings and it's a federal case, so if he gets elected in november...
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Let me guess: talking heads that make a living feeding liberals delusions
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So, Vance or Youngkin?
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So, Vance or Youngkin?
I hope it's youngkin...as that guy is about as lame as they come and will draw zero votes
Vance seems to get the MAGA attention
Trump told Fox News’s Bret Baier that he plans to make the big reveal in Wisconsin on Monday.
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So, Vance or Youngkin?
I hope it's youngkin...as that guy is about as lame as they come and will draw zero votes
Vance seems to get the MAGA attention
Yeah, but Virginia is now a swing state. Vance adds nothing but a fat face and a beard.
https://x.com/BGrueskin/status/1812922037893231001/photo/1
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So, Vance or Youngkin?
I hope it's youngkin...as that guy is about as lame as they come and will draw zero votes
Vance seems to get the MAGA attention
Yeah, but Virginia is now a swing state. Vance adds nothing but a fat face and a beard.
https://x.com/BGrueskin/status/1812922037893231001/photo/1
who told you VA was a swing state? Youngkins election was kind of a fluke, off-off year gov elections...plus the school covid stuff got the MAGA to the polls...and a really crappy Dem candidate
although GY made a bold move today by having the flags at halfmast since sadly the victim was from VA
https://x.com/GovernorVA/status/1812868633166561626
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vance gets it
Didn't even announce at the convention...but did it via truthsocial
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VA +1 for biden per RCP average.
who told you VA was a swing state?
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And come clean...how many of you bozos hyped up Hillbilly Elegy after 2016
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VA +1 for biden per RCP average.
who told you VA was a swing state?
rcp...come on
not even RCP lists VA as a battle ground state
https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states
538 shows biden crushing
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/virginia/
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And come clean...how many of you bozos hyped up Hillbilly Elegy after 2016
A quick search points to sweets and old forum legend vansmack
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Didn't say they did. But in 2020 Biden was +10 (looking on my phone at a trampoline park so much have that off a bit)
Not great!
[VA +1 for biden per RCP average.
who told you VA was a swing state?
rcp...come on
not even RCP lists VA as a battle ground state
https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states
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VA +1 for biden per RCP average.
Didn't say they did but +1 average
who told you VA was a swing state?
rcp...come on
not even RCP lists VA as a battle ground state
https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states
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welp chaz weighs in
@ChazNuttycombe
Terrible VP pick.
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welp chaz weighs in
@ChazNuttycombe
Terrible VP pick.
former forumer?
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former forumer?
no...some polit hack
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welp chaz weighs in
@ChazNuttycombe
Terrible VP pick.
former forumer?
Honorary forumer since I’ve vouched for him and we’ve done a weekend together.
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welp all it took was one assassination attempt and a predictable VP pick to turn the news away from biden stepping down
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Nicki Haley's son wins the Internet today for this one
https://x.com/metzgov/status/1812929739008397389/photo/1
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Don't worry, they'll turn their focus back to it just in time for it to really be impossible to drop him.
welp all it took was one assassination attempt and a predictable VP pick to turn the news away from biden stepping down
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Run it back
https://x.com/NickLutsko/status/1298073847388876802
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Or they'll immediately jump back to it:
https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-pelosi-quietly-plotting-oust-biden-politico-2024-7
https://www.vox.com/politics/360812/democrats-replace-biden-trump-shooting
Don't worry, they'll turn their focus back to it just in time for it to really be impossible to drop him.
welp all it took was one assassination attempt and a predictable VP pick to turn the news away from biden stepping down
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didn't take long
although also in VOX yesterday as well
Did Trump’s shooting save Biden’s nomination? (https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/360694/biden-nomination-trump-shooting-democratic-revolt)
a good way to pretty much end any political prognostication article
...and that nothing is certain until it happens.
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Kray $
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/elon-musk-has-said-he-is-committing-around-45-million-a-month-to-a-new-pro-trump-super-pac-dda53823
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Kray $
https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/elon-musk-has-said-he-is-committing-around-45-million-a-month-to-a-new-pro-trump-super-pac-dda53823
yep, jd vance is a tech bro molded by Theil...so open the floodgates
musk is really just loving the idea of using his billions to 'stir the pot' rather than actually help
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I have commented on this before but I don’t understand how liberals keep buying and even driving teslas. It’s got to be the most popular car in Arlington.
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I have commented on this before but I don’t understand how liberals keep buying and even driving teslas. It’s got to be the most popular car in Arlington.
Its a good environmentally friendly car. Most people who have teslas want an economical electric car, it’s not a sign of Elon fandom.
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I have commented on this before but I don’t understand how liberals keep buying and even driving teslas. It’s got to be the most popular car in Arlington.
Its a good environmentally friendly car. Most people who have teslas want an economical electric car, it’s not a sign of Elon fandom.
But there are plenty of good electric cars.
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I have commented on this before but I don’t understand how liberals keep buying and even driving teslas. It’s got to be the most popular car in Arlington.
Its a good environmentally friendly car. Most people who have teslas want an economical electric car, it’s not a sign of Elon fandom.
But there are plenty of good electric cars.
Up until the last year or two, I’d disagree with that. I find casting shade on people who bought teslas 5-6 years ago strange.
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I have commented on this before but I don’t understand how liberals keep buying and even driving teslas. It’s got to be the most popular car in Arlington.
Its a good environmentally friendly car. Most people who have teslas want an economical electric car, it’s not a sign of Elon fandom.
But there are plenty of good electric cars.
Up until the last year or two, I’d disagree with that. I find casting shade on people who bought teslas 5-6 years ago strange.
Elon Musk has been a pretty objectionable person for a long time. Witness his crazy comments about the scuba diver that went in to save the Thai youngsters trapped in the cave. Musk is pretty closely associated with Tesla. I would want nothing to do with his products. If I had bought a Tesla 5-6 years ago I would definitely have sold it by now. I understand that he was liberals’ special one for a while but come on…
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Great. First you give me shit about my Tesla. Next your gonna be all over me for my awesome kicks...
(https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/4cd/c52/3a4533615cc3deabb46c73c0a94df27468-trump-shoes.1x.rsocial.w1200.jpg)
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I have commented on this before but I don’t understand how liberals keep buying and even driving teslas. It’s got to be the most popular car in Arlington.
Its a good environmentally friendly car. Most people who have teslas want an economical electric car, it’s not a sign of Elon fandom.
But there are plenty of good electric cars.
Up until the last year or two, I’d disagree with that. I find casting shade on people who bought teslas 5-6 years ago strange.
Elon Musk has been a pretty objectionable person for a long time. Witness his crazy comments about the scuba diver that went in to save the Thai youngsters trapped in the cave. Musk is pretty closely associated with Tesla. I would want nothing to do with his products. If I had bought a Tesla 5-6 years ago I would definitely have sold it by now. I understand that he was liberals’ special one for a while but come on…
Ah yes, we were all waiting with baited breathe for what you’d do if you owned a Tesla. Perhaps we could talk about more fact-based scenarios like what would Seth do if he woke up tomorrow morning and was a biological woman?
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Wait what happened to being a senator from Wyoming?
Am feeling some hostility here - not sure why-so am going to let the mystery be and go back to celebrating another Copa America win.🏆!!! Ta ta
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Wait what happened to being a senator from Wyoming?
no idea what this is ref to...but did read an interesting tid bit about a former Senator from Wyoming
News of U.S. Sen. Lester Hunt’s death shook the nation on June 19, 1954, when it was learned the former senator died by suicide. Hunt was a liberal Democrat in his first term in the U.S. Senate when he was blackmailed by Sen. Joseph McCarthy from Wisconsin
He was elected to the U.S. Senate in 1948, but announced on June 8, 1954, that he would not seek another term. His announcement was the result of “one of the foulest attempts at blackmail in modern political history,” according to the U.S. Senate archives. Hunt’s son, who was gay, had been convicted the previous year for soliciting an undercover cop in a park.
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like we didn't already know that the GQP was funding RFJ jr...now it's more obvious
https://www.npr.org/2024/07/16/g-s1-10927/trump-rfk-vaccines-leaked-video
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Just one poll, but it definitely seems less than ideal: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/07/15/virginia-vcu-poll-biden-trump/
“Virginia is in play,” said former governor L. Douglas Wilder (D), whose namesake school of public policy sponsored the poll. “It is a close race. It’s a turnout election in Virginia.”
VA +1 for biden per RCP average.
who told you VA was a swing state?
rcp...come on
not even RCP lists VA as a battle ground state
https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states
538 shows biden crushing
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/virginia/
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somewhat credible voice that I will take seriously^
so much of the prognostication relates to Youngkin and that weird off-off terrible dem candidate election
didn't tell us that much about VA's federal voting record. the blue population in Nova and places like Richmond, VA beach, outnumber the red state wise. I don't think that the party demo has changed that much? (jules use your backchannels to ask nutttycombe this. his site (https://projects.cnalysis.com/23-24/president) has biden by 10+)
The real risk is if for some silly reason VA dems pull a 'there is no way biden could lose to this joker and not vote.
but that is an unlikely scenario
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If on Election Day it turns out VA was close then Trump will have won the election by a very comfortable margin. If democrats have trouble winning VA it’s impossible to envision them winning GA, NC, FL, PA, MI, WI, NV, AZ etc.
VA is not a battleground or swing state but that doesn’t mean democrats can’t lose VA.
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NKOTB says situation is less than ideal.
Obviously the situation is “less than ideal”…more like “very far from ideal”
We can argue all we want about Biden being old or the clear deception perpetrated by the Biden team. None of that is going to help get a democrat in the White House.
But we have 112 or so days and either democrats unite behind Biden and we win or lose together (potentially get decimated) or we somehow force Biden out, pick someone else and we get decimated.
It doesn’t look good right now but the reality is most people are already decided which I think explains why neither the debate or the shooting seem to have impacted all that much. I think we still have a decent fighting chance. If democrats try to force Biden out it will get very ugly and the collateral damage will guarantee a Trump win.
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Will someone please tell my "I don't believe that JD Vance is that bad, and you have to be careful about who wrote the negative things that are being said about him" wife that JD Vance actually is that bad?
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Huh?
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Huh?
My wife seems to be a JD Vance fan, and she shuts me down and tells me I need to get new, more useful hobbies (other than reading about and commenting on politics) when I try to present arguments that he might not be such a great guy.
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Huh?
My wife seems to be a JD Vance fan, and she shuts me down and tells me I need to get new, more useful hobbies (other than reading about and commenting on politics) when I try to present arguments that he might not be such a great guy.
Only a few more days until she can blame you for the puppy eating your CD collection and shitting all over your floor.
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An interesting pick…doubling down on turning out his base over trying to make inroads with democrats (blacks, Latinos and women).
Obviously this is what he usually does but it still surprises
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Co-writer Etan Cohen said that he "never expected Idiocracy to become a documentary"
are we sure??
Hulk Hogan will speak tonight at the RNC convention ahead of former President Trump formally accepting the GOP nomination for President of the United States.
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I don’t see a problem with that
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I don’t see a problem with that
just goes to show that the Maga base wants WWE and not actual bureaucrats who know how to run gov't
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It does not! A convention with only politicians as speakers would be incredibly boring and unrepresentative…more boring and unrepresentative than this one
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funny line from a review of vance's GOP speach
GOP storytelling Bingo: a cute story about a religious but feisty grandma with guns.
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I just don’t see the humor in any of it…
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Interesting when you see who's headline this is
Former felons get big stage at Republican National Convention
Story by Haisten Willis, Washington Examiner
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‘Kayfabe’ is the new ‘gaslight’
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Why is Obama stirring the pot? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/18/obama-says-biden-must-consider-viability/
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Why is Obama stirring the pot? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/18/obama-says-biden-must-consider-viability/
He's stating the obvious?
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I'm kidding, Joe has gotta like yesterday.
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Oh great
Might as well just hand Trump keys to White House.
What a world when Bernie tells people to support Biden , repeatedly and Obama apparently tells him to step down
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Truly baffling...we're all Pelosi Pals now. We're all coconut pilled. Dogs cats living together, etc etc.
Honestly, the Bernie / AOC stuff is really mind-blowing. Why tie your name and agenda to a sinking ship? That seems insanely short-sighted...just say nothing!
What a world when Bernie tells people to support Biden , repeatedly and Obama apparently tells him to step down
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*whispers* Maybe Bernie has been an idiot whose wrong about every Dem vs Dem issue for decades . . . /whispering
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'Grindr Superbowl': Gay ex-lawmaker exposes RNC amid spike in reported app outages
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Can't say I disagree!
*whispers* Maybe Bernie has been an idiot whose wrong about every Dem vs Dem issue for decades . . . /whispering
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ok, radom old pic of KH just came up in my feed, gotta say, like the look
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSx9fKRaIAEu72k?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Uh...
https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states
not even RCP lists VA as a battle ground state
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daaaang...I still don't believe VA is in play
RCP is very biased right...eventhough they are using poling data, they don't weigh it
so crappy pols end up throwing things off
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/virginia/
still has biden at almost 2% ahead
still early and getting shot in the ear tends to help polling numbers
still over 100 days left
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Everything is in play when virtually the entire Democratic Party is calling for him to drop out.
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If Biden is going to drop out he might as well resign at same time. President Kamala could then run.
Everything is so fucked. We are so fucked.
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For the first time I think there is a decent chance that Biden steps down. Maybe like 35% chance. If he goes it'll be because he is threatening down ballot races and folks think Kamala helps there. Progressives don't influence him, and they know it.
*whispers* Maybe Bernie has been an idiot whose wrong about every Dem vs Dem issue for decades . . . /whispering
I think Nina Turner said it all pretty clearly in CNN last week:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/10/politics/aoc-sanders-biden-progressives/index.html
“I think we’re getting too caught up in a mess that we didn’t make,” Turner said of the infighting over Biden’s fate. “The more moderate neoliberal wing of the Democratic Party will never let progressives have a progressive candidate, so why are we sweating this?”
The suggestion that progressives could vault one of their own to the nomination during an open convention, Turner added, was little more than fan fiction.
“We don’t have a horse in this race,” she said. “So we need to settle down and we need to focus on pushing and keep doing what we’re doing, which is to try to push this party further to the left. Whoever it is, we are going to push them and make demands.”
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Can't say I disagree!
*whispers* Maybe Bernie has been an idiot whose wrong about every Dem vs Dem issue for decades . . . /whispering
I think Nina Turner said it all pretty clearly in CNN last week:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/10/politics/aoc-sanders-biden-progressives/index.html
“I think we’re getting too caught up in a mess that we didn’t make,” Turner said of the infighting over Biden’s fate. “The more moderate neoliberal wing of the Democratic Party will never let progressives have a progressive candidate, so why are we sweating this?”
The suggestion that progressives could vault one of their own to the nomination during an open convention, Turner added, was little more than fan fiction.
“We don’t have a horse in this race,” she said. “So we need to settle down and we need to focus on pushing and keep doing what we’re doing, which is to try to push this party further to the left. Whoever it is, we are going to push them and make demands.”
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It’s over for Biden.
Biden will insist on Kamala being his replacement as candidate. Given they are all Biden delegates at the upcoming DNC convention I have to think she will be the one.
Never seen anything like this…
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Welp that’s going to be hard to know how this plays out
Sitting here after being aurally assaulted by kid rock and ear bandage just took the stage
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Goodness the campaign has made this attempt its #1 message
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Huh. I never even considered watching.
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Fascinating
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/21/biden-obama-2024-president-drop-out
At the time I felt like Biden didn’t run because he was grieving Beau’s death and focused on his family.
At the time I also felt like Obama did want Hillary to run as part of an “understanding “ reached when Hillary endorsed him in 2008.
Notable that the Clintons are pretty much the only ones not publicly calling for Biden to drop out.
I had expected Biden to announce tonight that he would be dropping out but doesn’t seem to be happening.
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Biden drops out
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Huh.
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Dear Kosmo: can you scrub my accounts? About to be the Democrats nominee for VP. Thanks.
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Was really hoping there wouldn’t be any post show buzzkills this morning, but seeing a poll out of Michigan where Biden was losing even the Detroit Metro area seemed like harbinger of things to come. The interview with congressman yesterday on This American Life wasn’t helping either…
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How could he poll well anywhere when the entire Democratic Party was saying he can’t run? Once Obama let his position be know it was all over.
If the entire party had stuck with Biden who knows what would have happened? I realize conventional stupidity is he would have lost but after the debate there was plenty of polling showing little impact on the race. Political junkies watch debates not the vast majority of Americans. But when we got a drip drip drip from democrats each day saying he should drop out of course his numbers among democratic voters began to suffer.
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Dear Kosmo: can you scrub my accounts? About to be the Democrats nominee for VP. Thanks.
Didn’t realize you were the governor of Pennsylvania!!
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Andy Beshear would really tie the room together
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https://www.axios.com/2024/07/22/kamala-harris-campaign-fundraising
"ActBlue announced grassroots supporters had raised as of 9pm ET $46.7 million via the Democratic donation-processing site following her campaign launch, which it noted on X was 'the biggest fundraising day of the 2024 cycle.""
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I put a few sheckles in the hat on this news
My first 2024 donation
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What a slap in the face of Joe Biden!!!! You only donated after hearing he dropped out!!!
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You only donated after hearing he dropped out!!!
can confirm
actBlue has now raised over $71,000,000 since Biden’s announcement this morning.
interesting
This will be the first Presidential election since 1976 to not have a Biden, Bush, or Clinton on the ticket.
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🐑
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could have gone in great headline thread
Manchin: ‘I am not running for office’
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So the dem VP picks?
Shapiro, beshear, Gretch
Taylor Swift won't be 35 until December
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Whitmer and Newsome (it was never seriously going to be him) have supposedly declined.
I’d add Mark Kelly and Roy Cooper and Tim Walz to that potential VP list although I have to imagine it’s Shapiro’s if he wants it.
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Whitmer and Newsome (it was never seriously going to be him) have supposedly declined.
I’d add Mark Kelly and Roy Cooper and Tim Walz to that potential VP list although I have to imagine it’s Shapiro’s if he wants it.
I think Kelly is a great pick, but feel like the issue is his seat was won by a slim margin and too much risk there
but ultimately, PA is soo important
But I have always found that VP picks really don't do as much when it comes down to brass tax
In other news
Voto Latino pledges $44M to support Harris
I have to imagine the amount of ketchup on the walls of mara lago is getting out of control
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Taylor Swift won't be 35 until December
Which is fine since the term wouldn't begin until January.
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Do we think Shapiro plays well with the Michigan Muslims?
I had to look up who Tim Walz is, but no way he's only 60 years old.
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Beshear seems like a perfect fit.
He’s the GOP’s platonic ideal of a candidate but happens to be a Democrat.
Counterbalances Kamala in every way
And his image of upstanding Christian Kentuckyness (surely well crafted and honed over a lifetime) will resonate . . .and as a bonus expose JD Vance further as not what he is supposed to be.
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(https://media.tenor.com/TP4YGOd9RkMAAAAM/yuuuuup-yup.gif)
Beshear seems like a perfect fit.
He’s the GOP’s platonic ideal of a candidate but happens to be a Democrat.
Counterbalances Kamala in every way
And his image of upstanding Christian Kentuckyness (surely well crafted and honed over a lifetime) will resonate . . .and as a bonus expose JD Vance further as not what he is supposed to be.
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If I could pick anyone it would be Pete Buttigieg
Now if I look at political reality I would go with Shapiro.
I don’t get what selecting Beshear does. I worry it would just be Kaine v 2.0. So he was elected in a red state…so what? In 100 days he is going to convince people outside of KY to vote D? People in PA apparently really like Shapiro and in a close election that could be the difference and Beshear will appeal to people in PA and get them to vote Kamala how??
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https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1815434837567643696?t=OHiiKuGUmsR1E3KDzVUPDw&s=19
kewl
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@NewsWire_US
Democrats have raised over $250 million in the last 24 hours through ActBlue and major donor PACs.
also...well played...
@tedlieu
Democrats continue to be in array.
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Awesome news…….for political consultants.
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come on man, you don't think this money helps?
this was a funny response
Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, asked if he’d accept offer to serve as vp for Harris, quips:
“Look, if they if they do the polling and it turns out that they need a 49-year-old, bald and gay Jew from Boulder, Colorado, they got my number.”
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If you offered me a choice between money and nice weather in PA, MI and WI on Election Day I would take nice weather.
Money doesn’t hurt. The main benefit of raising money is people seem to feel it means your candidate is doing well. I just think with such a polarized electorate it doesn’t matter how many TV ads you run in the states that matter. Does it help get your base out by funding get out the vote efforts and canvassing? Maybe….
Far more important would be having more voting machines in Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee. Unfortunately I am told this can’t be done and people must continue to wait hours to vote.
What exactly do you think money accomplishes? We are going to run ads painting Trump as dangerous? Haven’t we done this ad nauseum? People don’t know? More ads about abortion?
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Of course politicians will tell you $ makes all the difference. How else can they justify asking you for money?
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If you offered me a choice between money and nice weather in PA, MI and WI on Election Day I would take nice weather.
Far more important would be having more voting machines in Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee. Unfortunately I am told this can’t be done and people must continue to wait hours to vote.
agree on both these points
I do think driving your base to early vote/Mail in can help with the weather issue
Michigan: Early voting starts Oct. 26
Wisconsin: Early voting starts Oct. 22
PA - No early voting
All three of these states have no-excuse mail in voting too
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If I could pick anyone it would be Pete Buttigieg
Now if I look at political reality I would go with Shapiro.
I don’t get what selecting Beshear does. I worry it would just be Kaine v 2.0. So he was elected in a red state…so what? In 100 days he is going to convince people outside of KY to vote D? People in PA apparently really like Shapiro and in a close election that could be the difference and Beshear will appeal to people in PA and get them to vote Kamala how??
If you are a Christian conservative type (or other) in PA, or MI or OH or WI or anywhere and you pride yourself on high moral values, faith, family, community . . . Beshear should resonate with you. So he cuts right to the heart of all people in swing states and elsewhere who instinctively identify as GOP (conservative) and force them to choose between someone in the other party who lives the life and walks the walk and those in their own party who do not and simply pander to them. That’s powerful.
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All those people are voting Trump. I don’t care if she picks Jesus Christ as her VP.
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All those people are voting Trump. I don’t care if she picks Jesus Christ as her VP.
questionable if he would be eligible
Estimates of Jesus' age at the time of his death range from 33 to 40 years old,
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All those people are voting Trump. I don’t care if she picks Jesus Christ as her VP.
I think JC died before he was 35, so not eligible?
I think of someone like my sister in law, who seems to be a conservative leaning Christian, who hates Trump. I think a Beshear VP pick might have an influence on her, as much as a VP selection could have.
I like Pete but I don't think a black woman and a gay guy are the right combination, no matter if the black woman is Oprah and the gay guy is Jesus.
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Dude, this is a winning ticket
Oprah/Gay-Jesus 2024!
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this is another nice stat
880,000 people have given to the @KamalaHarris campaign in the last 24 hours — 60% new.
the base is fired up, we needed something to get the base energized and this has really helped IMO
Only thing is they really should have dropped this news like one hour before trumps Convention speech
so he knew right before he was going on, that would have been an epic meltdown
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with this announcement, the race is won!
Nikki Haley Voters PAC Announces Support for Kamala Harris
/sarcasm_off
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Oh man, she's going for the jazz vinyl vote!
https://www.facebook.com/reel/228274609832512
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If democrats had stuck with Joe we would be in exactly the same place.
(https://i.ibb.co/FD9bX15/IMG-3450.png) (https://ibb.co/P6RZMyc)
The only people saying Biden had no chance were the media and democrats.
I hope am wrong but democrats may come to regret their collective panic. A better approach would have been not to agree to debate Trump and stick together.
After the first debate I still think sticking with Biden may ultimately prove to have been a better bet. The panic was what drove down Biden’s numbers.
https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/connecticut/article/ct-q-poll-kamala-harris-donald-trump-quinnipiac-19588998.php
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IT'S BEEN LESS THAN 48 HOURS!!!
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Oh man, she's going for the jazz vinyl vote!
https://www.facebook.com/reel/228274609832512
Shes got hutch back in the fold!!
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IT'S BEEN LESS THAN 48 HOURS!!!
Meaning the high point?
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Oh man, she's going for the jazz vinyl vote!
https://www.facebook.com/reel/228274609832512
Shes got hutch back in the fold!!
I like Kamala. Always have. I do not like the way the party panicked and pushed out Biden.
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Oh man, she's going for the jazz vinyl vote!
https://www.facebook.com/reel/228274609832512
Shes got hutch back in the fold!!
I like Kamala. Always have. I do not like the way the party panicked and pushed out Biden.
I have no dog in this fight but come on... biden is practically a walking corpse
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Then someone should have taken him down in the primaries. I believe that’s the way it’s supposed to work?
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I mean this is about winning or is it about job performance?
Biden has been a far more effective president than Obama.
And if it’s -as I believe- all about winning I am having trouble understanding how Kamala has a better chance of winning Pennsylvania than Scranton Joe.
Obviously after weeks of the media and democrats abandoning Biden his poll numbers began to go down. How could they not? But in the aftermath of the debate his numbers were steady and as the Quinnipac pollsters argue the same as Harris. Now that may change or it may not.
But if you are saying you would rather have Trump than Biden well you lost me.
And if you are saying Biden couldn’t win well I don’t think there is evidence for that…
We will never know now but let’s hope all panicked democrats were right…
I think the way to view an election in today’s America is to think of the parties as teams. At this point 99% of Americans are either on one team or the other and most Americans don’t give a shit about politics or polls or debates or pundits as far as informing their vote. They look to media to reaffirm their belief in their team. Now when the media all went nuts about how their team was going to get creamed well yeah that had an impact…
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Let me add that this is the same media that said Trump had no chance after the Access Hollywood tape. How did that work out?
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I mean this is about winning or is it about job performance?
Winning. Thanks for asking.
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Well exactly and winning is not about being old.
It’s not about future performance. It’s about being able to win.
America hasn’t ever even elected a female president!
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America hasn’t ever even elected a female president!
yet
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Well exactly and winning is not about being old.
It’s not about future performance. It’s about being able to win.
America hasn’t ever even elected a female president!
The Biden vs. Obama presidency would be an interesting historic discussion. IRA vs. ARRA. Staying in Afghanistan vs. bloody retreat. Budget caps deal vs. sequestration etc...etc... I haven't put enough thought into it to have a strong opinion.
I felt like Biden was likely to lose before the debate. 2020 was too close and his standing was worse. I do still wonder if everyone had pretended the debate was fine, would it have just gone away in the public conscious. I think there is a good chance that it would have, though the polls in swing states maybe suggest that isn't the case. I think the bigger problem is, he was losing before the debate and he needed it to shake things up. (His team felt similarly or they wouldn't have scheduled the early debate).
Folks running down ballot didn't think the bad debate was something that could be ignored. They felt like saying that things were fine would undercut their own legitimacy and so Biden was pulling them down. While Manchin just wanted to stick Biden because he could, folks like Sherrod Brown don't come out unless they really feel threatened. Their job is to get elected, so I put some stock in their reactions.
If you asked me to pick a Dem to lead a ticket to take on Trump, Kamala wouldn't be in my top 10 (even withot fantasy picks like Oprah). As for historic precedents, we've also never voted for an 80 year old, or an incumbant whose approval is in the 30s. I don't like where we are but since I had already written Biden off and was terrified about the House and Senate, I'm cautiosly optimistic that this could be a net positive. But I don't feel good about it.
And then if we want assign blame for the situation I assign it to Biden and his team for refusing to acknowledge they had a problem. Even worse they hid the President for 18 months, attacked any press who wrote about it and generally stacked the deck by changing the primary order. But if you think that Biden was the best chance of winning, then I can see how Pelosi and Schumer get the blame.
Regardless, no one can blame Bernie, AOC or progressives this time. This is purely the neolibs fighting it among themselves. The joys of late stage capitalism.
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Nice post. What is your take on Ween?
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#YesWeKam
I approve this message
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Yeah time to move forward
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Nice post. What is your take on Ween?
Probably not on Kamala's playlist, so they aren't on mine. Right now I'm trying to talk myself into Charli XCX.
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Nice post. What is your take on Ween?
Probably not on Kamala's playlist, so they aren't on mine. Right now I'm trying to talk myself into Charli XCX.
people are saying she has Pure Guava on vinyl
I'm still not sure if Brat is a compliment or a diss?
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This is kind of a bonkers statement IMO. I think HRC is a world-class scumbag, but she did win the popular vote by like 3 million votes! And people HATED her! She just didn't win because she was arrogant.
I don't see why it's so far-fetched that someone without the baggage she had could win it! I don't know if that's Harris, but to say this country wouldn't elect a woman seems like cope.
America hasn’t ever even elected a female president!
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^I'm with NKOTB on this
but the real question is, will NKOTB buy that CD box set with all the signatures!
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https://www.axios.com/2024/07/22/kamala-harris-campaign-fundraising
"ActBlue announced grassroots supporters had raised as of 9pm ET $46.7 million via the Democratic donation-processing site following her campaign launch, which it noted on X was 'the biggest fundraising day of the 2024 cycle.""
add 100 million to that number...not even 72 hours
https://observablehq.com/@rdmurphy/actblue-ticker-tracker
Day Amount raised
7/23/2024 $13,633,419
7/22/2024 $67,221,729
7/21/2024 $66,972,690
7/20/2024 $6,950,825
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This is kind of a bonkers statement IMO. I think HRC is a world-class scumbag, but she did win the popular vote by like 3 million votes! And people HATED her! She just didn't win because she was arrogant.
I don't see why it's so far-fetched that someone without the baggage she had could win it! I don't know if that's Harris, but to say this country wouldn't elect a woman seems like cope.
America hasn’t ever even elected a female president!
There are very few industrialized countries in the world that have never had a female leader.
We are definitely behind and it’s not coincidence. The UK elected Thatcher in 1979 or 45 years ago! We hadn’t even had a female VP until a few years ago!!!!
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This is kind of a bonkers statement IMO. I think HRC is a world-class scumbag, but she did win the popular vote by like 3 million votes! And people HATED her! She just didn't win because she was arrogant.
I don't see why it's so far-fetched that someone without the baggage she had could win it! I don't know if that's Harris, but to say this country wouldn't elect a woman seems like cope.
America hasn’t ever even elected a female president!
There are very few industrialized countries in the world that have never had a female leader.
We are definitely behind and it’s not coincidence. The UK elected Thatcher in 1979 or 45 years ago! We hadn’t even had a female VP until a few years ago!!!!
Wait. We've had a female VP?
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This is kind of a bonkers statement IMO. I think HRC is a world-class scumbag, but she did win the popular vote by like 3 million votes! And people HATED her! She just didn't win because she was arrogant.
I don't see why it's so far-fetched that someone without the baggage she had could win it! I don't know if that's Harris, but to say this country wouldn't elect a woman seems like cope.
America hasn’t ever even elected a female president!
There are very few industrialized countries in the world that have never had a female leader.
We are definitely behind and it’s not coincidence. The UK elected Thatcher in 1979 or 45 years ago! We hadn’t even had a female VP until a few years ago!!!!
Wait. We've had a female VP?
Am sure there is a ripper of a joke in here somewhere…
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Wait. We've had a female VP?
did you miss the 2020 election?
also, please explain why love of Venn diagrams is a bad thing
maybe use a Venn diagram to illustrate?
oh and allan weighed in
@AllanLichtman
Biden’s withdrawal cost Democrats the Incumbency Key on my 13 Keys to the White House prediction system. But the excitement generated by his endorsement of VP Harris makes it very likely that they retain the Contest Key as she becomes the consensus nominee.
gotta say never thought nate was funny, but this was a good response
@NateSilver538
Kamala Harris should murder a goat on live television, therefore unlocking both the RITUAL SACRIFICE and SIGNIFICANT DOMESTIC POLICY ACCOMPLISHMENT keys. 🔑
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This made me chuckle
MAGA: Kamala Harris never birthed any children!
Me: Just like the 46 presidents before her.
https://x.com/tapiocapearl13/status/1815728992047267941?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
Also, see reports that TFG in light of recent developments, he wants a more popular pick for VP. Followed by “he will have carry him to term”
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notable that neither George Washington nor Andrew Jackson had any kids either
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It seemed weird….
https://fortune.com/2024/07/23/elon-musk-backs-down-from-45-million-a-month-pledge-to-trump-says-he-doesnt-subscribe-to-cult-of-personality/
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funny how the timing of this and the Quartey report for tesla
Tesla's 2Q profit falls 45% to $1.48 billion as sales drop
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could have gone in the great headline thread
Former Trump rival Nikki Haley demands 'Haley Voters for Harris' to 'cease and desist'
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these racist Pundits say "DEI" when you know they really want to say is the n-word, but know they can get away with it
https://x.com/MikeSington/status/1816123356200198501
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https://x.com/3vanSutton/status/1816568172423913891
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^ good stuff
What's great about the couchfucking stuff is ...it's kinda silly and if they engage they just look stupid
unlike this blowjob stuff they love using against kamala
I am a little shocked how bad the AP fumbled this too
because it appears...it was in the book and he did admit to sexual relations with a sectional
@FebWriter
Hi, book nerd here, I work in a public library.
The explanation is simple: this was in the original book, the first published edition.
It was then removed before the book was published in paperback and then in future reprints.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTYBvwpawAA0mIV?format=jpg&name=medium)
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So if she had kids of her own she would understand why it’s so important to fight all manner of gun control and to ignore climate change (among other issues)? WTF are these people talking about?
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That page from his book can’t be real…it goes from brain drain to couch fucking in the same paragraph?
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That page from his book can’t be real…it goes from brain drain to couch fucking in the same paragraph?
By jove, hutch is cracking the case, fellas.
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That page from his book can’t be real…it goes from brain drain to couch fucking in the same paragraph?
seems logical to me
#Ibelievecouches
You live by the couch, you die by the couch
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That page from his book can’t be real…it goes from brain drain to couch fucking in the same paragraph?
By jove, hutch is cracking the case, fellas.
😂
I guess I am gullible
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That page from his book can’t be real…it goes from brain drain to couch fucking in the same paragraph?
By jove, hutch is cracking the case, fellas.
😂
I guess I am gullible
hmm, while it hurts me to say this...I think Hutch is right
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTawXYkXgAAKL65?format=jpg&name=large)
I still stand by the couches, and this still doesn't prove he's not a couchfucker, just he didn't publish a book about it
I want to see his internet history! (the new "I want to see his tax returns)
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All this hullabaloo ignores the fact that he also accidentally revealed he's searched for dolphin porn!
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All this hullabaloo ignores the fact that he also accidentally revealed he's searched for dolphin porn!
interesting
how is that known?
how does one 'accidentally' search
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Not "accidentally searched", but "accidentally revealed he ran the search": https://www.rawstory.com/jd-vance-dolphin-search-history/
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Not "accidentally searched", but "accidentally revealed he ran the search": https://www.rawstory.com/jd-vance-dolphin-search-history/
ah...accidently revealed, big difference
although searching for woman and dolphin isn't quite dolphin porn, but I'm here for the lolz
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All this hullabaloo ignores the fact that he also accidentally revealed he's searched for dolphin porn!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTbL6qhaAAAueaF?format=png&name=900x900)
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POTW2
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While probably not a good thing, this presidential race got exciting this week
We needed this (at least on the dem side)
since we knew it was T vs B for almost a year, it was hard to get excited and there was really nothing new (other than trump getting convicted)
hasn't even been 7 days and actblue is at $229,548,059 since saturday!
that doesn't include the 90 they got from biden and a long list of PACs
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I’m imagining him tweaking Adam Sandler’s line from the SNL Mr Belvedere fan club sketch
‘I should want to google dolphin porn. But I shouldn’t need to m*****bate afterwards’
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Sorry to be the political grinch.
Dude I know fundraising gives you a hardon but come on….Didn’t Hillary have a huge advantage in $ over Trump. We kept hearing his campaign was broke!!
BTW is this related to you having started in fundraising?
You of all people should know fundraising is a business just like any other with plenty of people taking their cut before anything productive is done - if ever - with the money.
I guess maybe you get excited thinking everyone on our side is excited by our candidate. I get excited too but I know racism and sexism run deep in this country. Yes Obama got elected but remember it was within a context of the economy absolutely cratering with McCain showing a bit of wobbliness (suspending campaign), Palin and a general awareness that the Iraq War had been a complete failure. Harris does not have these advantages although some on the left are saying Vance on the ticket is a disadvantage. The economy SHOULD be an advantage but I think it’s more complicated than we want to accept.
I really dislike liberals getting giddy. Take that shit to the delusional DailyKos ecosystem .
At this point I give Trump 62.5% odds to win back the White House. If she picks Shapiro as her VP - and assuming there are no skeletons there I would say D have a 45% chance.
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Sorry to be the political grinch.
At this point I give Trump 62.5% odds to win back the White House. If she picks Shapiro as her VP - and assuming there are no skeletons there I would say D have a 45% chance.
sorry not sorry ;)
yikes, I don't like those odds
Edit- only has biden in there -although it appears Chaz agrees (https://projects.cnalysis.com/23-24/president) with you
The hubris in the HC campaign was over the top and they ignored some of the key states
I don't think there is the same Hubris with KH
I think there is a lot of enthusiasm in the base, people were publicly afraid to back Biden and don't think that's the case with KH
We still have a lot of time and no matter what it is all about voter turnout in the battle ground states
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I love that I've got Sidehatch checking Chaz Nuttycombe daily for election news! hah
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I love that I've got Sidehatch checking Chaz Nuttycombe daily for election news! hah
he has been fairly accurate, and I just love saying his name
I do wish they they were a little more frequent on updates, but you can't rush things if you want them accurate
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I love that I've got Sidehatch checking Chaz Nuttycombe daily for election news! hah
he has been fairly accurate, and I just love saying his name
It's a shame he's "retiring" after this election cycle as no one is nearly as locked in on Virginia HoD/senate stuff as this random grad student who spends his free time reviewing campaign finance reports and census trends. Went 140 for 140 last year!
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Read Andrew Sullivan’s latest column.
I know he is persona non grata but just read it and then come talk to me.
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Read Andrew Sullivan’s latest column.
I know he is persona non grata but just read it and then come talk to me.
he annoys me, but I think he has an accurate take on things and I usually listen to what he says
are you a subscriber?
https://substack.com/@sullydish
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No but I get the free version email.
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No but I get the free version email.
hmm, don't seem like I'm going to be able to get that for free since it's in the past
never mind, figured out how to get it
I like the start: No sentient, compassionate being could begrudge the Democrats this week this small, still moment of relief and even joy. From what seemed like certain Electoral College death, with a candidate who is manifestly mentally and physically incapable of being president for four more years, they are now in the throes of Kamala euphoria.
but I'm waiting for the hammer to drop
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Can you post the whole column?
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I'm liking tim so far, knew nothing about him
https://x.com/clapifyoulikeme/status/1816853890710774240
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Can you post the whole column?
No sentient, compassionate being could begrudge the Democrats this week this small, still moment of relief and even joy. From what seemed like certain Electoral College death, with a candidate who is manifestly mentally and physically incapable of being president for four more years, they are now in the throes of Kamala euphoria. And who could blame them? In an instant, the Democratic ticket is the younger option for American voters; a fresh alternative to the previously dotaged duo; a non-white and female breakthrough, which has already narrowed the Trump lead. It’s a female Obama!
The initial themes Harris deployed, more to the point, seemed solid against Trump: prosecutor vs felon; future vs past; positivity vs hatred. She gave speeches that finally worked. Her opening ad centered a word usually associated with the right in America: “freedom” — to the sound of Beyoncé. And the polls showed a small recovery for the Democrats among black, Latino, and young Brat-ty voters. The swiftness of Harris’ consolidation of support also gave off the hint of a political canniness previously absent from her vice-presidency. And the mainstream media pivoted instantly to hype, hope, excitement and ... amnesia.
Yes, amnesia. With Harris, amnesia is essential. We all have to become unburdened by what we — and, more specifically she — have been. And beneath the enthusiasm linger some obvious, loud, unanswered questions. Why did Biden so quickly put his weight behind a vice president he had previously ignored, sidelined, and regarded — according to almost every media outlet — as something of a burden? Why has Obama taken his sweet time to endorse her, after calling for an open nominating process? And why did no other viable candidate come forward to challenge her?
The official answer is that a Harris nomination avoided a mess at the convention, quickly united and energized the party, safeguarded Biden’s war chest, and solidified the demographics of the base. Fair enough, and it seems to have worked (although I suspect a little chaos and a fresh face emerging from the convention would still have been preferable).
But there are other plausible explanations for Harris’ unexpectedly sudden dominance. Could it be that Biden and all of Harris’ rivals still expect to lose in November, and Harris is a useful sacrificial lamb? Or that Biden suspects that a Harris defeat would vindicate him in retrospect? Or that the Dem governors knew it would be political death to challenge a black, female candidate for president in a woke party, and see 2028 as by far their best shot?
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I suspect it’s a mix of all of the above — and not quite the strategic breakthrough some may want it to be. And Harris’ opening ad takes a bold stand against “chaos, fear and hate” and issues a brave call for freedom, universal healthcare, and public safety. And maybe the platitudinous vagueness of this is just the overture before we get actual proposals or policies. But at some point, Harris is going to have to square what she has said and done in the past with what she proposes to do as president.
Her record on the national stage — from 2019 till now — is that of a super-woke leftist. In speech after speech, and in an ad she narrated just before the 2020 election, she insists on the need for “equity” as well as “equality,” and by “equity” she means that “everyone ends up in the same place.” She is a presidential candidate who endorses “equality of outcomes” over “equality of opportunity,” a position that even Communist China has now abandoned.
One moment in her catastrophic 2020 campaign for the Dem nomination also stood out for me. There was a discussion in a debate about issuing an executive order that would ban all assault weapons. Biden made the simple point that this was not within the president’s constitutional authority: “There are some things you can do [as president]. Many things you can’t.” Harris replied, giggling: “I would just say, Hey Joe, instead of saying no we can’t, let’s say yes we can. And yes we can!” As she said this, she burst into hysterical laughter. Go watch the clip. She’s not a serious person.
In the only primaries outside California she campaigned in, she favored decriminalizing illegal border crossings and compared ICE to the KKK. On June 1, 2020, as BLM riots were so spreading out of control that even the NYT had an A1 story the day before — “Appeals for Calm as Sprawling Protests Threaten to Spiral Out of Control” — she tweeted out a bail fund for those arrested in the rioting, and urged people to donate. As the chaos surged in June, she told Stephen Colbert:
They’re not going to stop. This is a movement, I’m telling you. And everyone beware. They’re not gonna stop … They’re not going to let up and they should not. And we should not.
Also in June 2020, she said on national television, “It is outdated, and it is actually wrong and backward to think that more police officers will create more safety.”
Harris believes illegal aliens should get work authorization and free healthcare. She favors unproven, irreversible medical experiments on gay, autistic, and trans children. She favors, and the Biden administration has enforced, systemic government discrimination against men, whites, Jews and Asians to compensate for past discrimination against African-Americans and women. Her Senate record is one long series of DEI initiatives. And yes, Biden selected her using a DEI process: no men were to be considered, and in the hysteria of 2020, white women were also seen as no-go areas for the veep role.
Her record as vice president rivals Dan Quayle’s. Every single media outlet, including all the mainstream ones, said so until last week. No, she wasn’t given the formal title of “Border Czar,” because such a title doesn’t exist. But she was the administration’s “point-person” on immigration and the Southern border, as every media outlet also told us until this week. So she is strongly attached to the Democrats’ weakest issue by far: mass, illegal immigration.
She deserves some pity for this. The Biden administration, unwilling to do anything to stop the illegal influx, stuck poor Harris with the task of so reforming Central America’s dysfunctional countries that no one there would ever want to leave. So of course she failed. She was, in reality, deployed to deflect the issue of mass illegal immigration away from Biden — not to actually do anything. But that video of her reiterating in weird, somber tones — “Do not come. Do not come.” — added a patina of excruciating cringe.
She’s also obviously incredibly insecure. That laugh is a nervous one — it’s to cover up her awkwardness and her inability to say something that actually means something. All of those famous, inane, Jack Handy ramblings about space or the passage of time are designed to say something meaningful while not saying anything concrete:
I think it’s very important, as you have heard from so many incredible leaders, for us at every moment in time, and certainly this one, to see the moment in time in which we exist and are present, and to be able to contextualize it, to understand where we exist in the history and in the moment as it relates not only to the past but the future.
What the fuck does any of that mean? And what does she actually believe in? From locking up criminals as California’s AG to pushing bail for BLM rioters, from imprisoning cannabis users to favoring national weed legalization — is quite a journey. It will be interesting to watch the campaign and see if Harris is able to tell a story of her different political identities that doesn’t amount to pure expediency.
And she is a world-historically bad manager of people. That’s not my view or the view of the GOP. It’s the view of almost everyone who ever worked for her. In just her first year-and-a-half as veep, Harris lost her chief of staff, communications director, domestic-policy adviser, and national security adviser. After three years, she had a 92 percent staff turnover! Only 4 out of an original 47 could stick it out.
She wasn’t much better in the Senate, ranking #9 out of 114 for highest turnover from 2017 to 2020. Her presidential campaign was plagued by in-fighting, family members — her sister, Maya, in particular — pulling rank, constant leaks to the press, strategic incoherence, and endless resignations and layoffs. She blew threw $40 million and had to pull out two months before Iowa. “You can’t run the country if you can’t run your campaign,” wrote Gil Duran, a former staffer.
If you want to read a classic examination of how not to run a political campaign, check out the NYT’s retrospective piece. It’s brutal. Think of how Obama ran his campaigns. Now imagine the exact, polar opposite. That’s All-Drama Kamala. And all the staffers echo the same complaint: she doesn’t do her homework and then berates aides who try to help her. She was vindictive and toxic as an employer. In greasy pole Washington, attaching yourself to a veep is a rare chance for access to power, a jewel in the careerist crown. And yet so many ambitious and previously successful people simply couldn’t work for Harris without quitting in bitterness and disdain.
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I raise these issues not to rain on the Democrats’ parade — they deserve a moment of jubilation and relief — merely to recognize the reality they now face. And look: in 2024, who knows what could happen? Maybe Harris’ relative youth (she’s my age!), her sex, her non-whiteness, and her freshness will change the dynamics of the race. She’s certainly off to a strong start, and the MSM will go overboard in celebrating her. Maybe Trump will suddenly seem too old or too nasty or now just too boring in comparison. Maybe he’s peaked way too soon. Maybe ugly personal attacks on her — along with the weirdness of J.D. Vance — could shift things one more time. Maybe Harris is key to preventing black and Latino and youth defections to the GOP. I don’t know. The race remains tight. And anyone predicting anything right now needs to remember where we were just three weeks ago.
But I’ll say this. Harris is one of the weakest and wokest Democratic candidates there is. She cannot credibly appeal to the center after such extreme-left posturing; she cannot run a campaign; she cannot run an executive office; she has never been able to win elections outside the left-liberal, one-party state of California; and she has nothing to offer to those of us who really, really don’t want to vote for Trump but don’t want to unburden ourselves of every moderate or conservative principle we ever had. Apart from that, she’s perfect.
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this line gonna leave a mark: Her record as vice president rivals Dan Quayle’s.
but ultimately before Dick, VPs did next to nothing other than meeting with visiting dignitaries and showing up for ribbon cuttings
I raise these issues not to rain on the Democrats’ parade Lie...he LOVES raining on the dems parades
Maybe Harris is key to preventing black and Latino and youth defections to the GOP. this is something Biden was struggling with (it seemed)
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Joe Biden was a severely unlikeable candidate who was never taken seriously on a national level until suddenly he wasn’t. Kamala was obviously not a serious person in 2020 but you can gain a lot of experience and seasoning over 4 years as VP. Just hitting her marks and being normal will go a long way
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I'm not sure I agree. Wining DE for 3 decades wasn't exactly like wining CA or NY for that many years
a large number of dems/independents held their nose and voted for joe in 2020, because he wasn't trump
the first two primaries (NH and IA) he didn't even finish in the top three and only finished 2nd in NV 23points behind Sanders
then Clymer/SC happened, and everyone just decided "joe's the candidate" and it was over from there
I like joe and was fine with voting for him, but he was definitely not my first or second pick
I see I'm arguing with someone who deleted their post
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love this
using this silly couch stuff to actually make some good points
https://x.com/ArtCandee/status/1816935834500657185
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I think Mobius meant Biden was not like able currently. That is why I deleted my post. I can’t disagree with that.
Your “contribution” on the other hand….well..better left alone.
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I think Joe had a great four years, but I was not excited at all that he was going to run for a second term
I have no problem saying that
I do think this switch late in the game was a great move, which I don't think was planned
but the primaries are brutal and just give the opposing team all this good content of the same team beating each other up
There was no one really to 'pick' from in 2024 on the dem side, so we can't really have that argument
but I think of scenarios, this is a great one and I think possibly the only chance to win the white house
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Yeah we wouldn’t want people competing for the presidency…..
Funny I don’t remember you urging Bernie to drop out in 2016 when he torpedoed Hillary’s candidacy by hanging around hitting her even when he couldn’t win!!! Weird world…
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Funny I don’t remember you urging Bernie to drop out in 2016 when he torpedoed Hillary’s candidacy by hanging around hitting her even when he couldn’t win!!! Weird world…
you are correct and in retrospect, I regret that
althought, I'm not the kind of person to encourage someone to drop out, especially when they are getting lots of votes
but I didn't think there was a chance she could lose to trump and I regret that too
Yeah we wouldn’t want people competing for the presidency…..
I didn't say that
but I think biden should have done this last fall would be my take, then we could have had a real primary
althought didn't work out so great for the dems in 68
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Biden didn’t have to drop out. The onus was on other democrats to challenge him in the primaries. That didn’t happen. The primaries did happen. Obviously there was substantial pressure placed so that there wouldn’t be serious challenges but that doesn’t absolve other democrats.
And you say he should have dropped out last fall and yet after he delivered his State of the Union a few months ago not one person -of the dozens that recently called for him to drop out- asked for him to drop out. Maybe his health deteriorated more recently. I have no idea.
I remain unconvinced that Biden needed to drop out. It was everyone - the media, other D politicians- freaking out and asking for him to drop out that made it necessary for him to drop out. Obama stabbing him in the back was the death blow.
That’s not to say I am not livid at Biden’s circle - first of all- for agreeing to the debates at all and for not having “the talk” with Joe. Maybe they tried but it sure doesn’t seem like it. I feel deceived.
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Actually I meant Biden was historically not liked or taken seriously on a national level (even though he ran in probably every presidential election of my lifetime). Then suddenly he WAS liked and taken seriously. He came out of the 8 years as VP more polished and i guess leaderlike . . .until time caught up with him.
He was kind of just a mediocre political animal with lots of baggage. A not particularly smart or charismatic guy but had some charm, tried real hard, and serviced Delaware ably. He had a plagerism scandal. He stood up for Clarence Thomas in the Anita Hill hearings. But over time he evolved (on some levels).
And Kamala also was not taken seriously nationally and looked like a very mediocre political animal in 2020. But politicians evolve. And you hope she spent the last 4 years going from a yellow belt to a black belt or whatever and that now she is ready for the moment in a way that she wasn’t (as Biden previously wasn’t). And that Sullivans observation are true in the past tense but not so much now.
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Likely one of the best
JD Vance using the pullout method
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTbZRJ-XEAEzBwV.jpg)
https://x.com/meladoodle/status/1816878436851347709?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
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Oh ok mobius…wish I hadn’t deleted my post
I will try to re-summon up the bile I felt when reading your original bilge. It’s kind of late though and am not feeling it. My apologies for having given you the benefit of the doubt.
In the meantime placeholder post
<you are wrong…I am right>
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Hah! Ok, looking forward to it. Honestly I’m interested because I didn’t think I said anything particularly controversial.
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Another doozie
Who hasn’t been excited by the thrill of the chaise?
https://x.com/rationalblonde/status/1816354777426714849?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
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This one is making the rounds and it’s very well done
Vance VP
https://youtu.be/vYILYILPrXs?feature=shared
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Brent Terhune FTW
https://x.com/brentterhune/status/1816916059670376771?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
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"In four years, you won't have to vote again."
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4795823-trump-encourages-christians-vote/
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(https://i.postimg.cc/DySSRqKk/Screenshot-2024-07-27-at-11-57-47-AM.png) (https://x.com/MJSchulman/status/1817011224988516770)
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You decide
New band name or jd Vance issue
burnt monkey testicle
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Less than 100 days to go….
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how does this guy think this is a win for their team?
Jack Posobiec: "Taylor Swift is a deep state psyop, but it's ok. We don’t have Taylor Swift on our side, but you know who we have?
We have Kid Rock! We have Ted Nugent! We have influencers! We have all these people -- Jon Voight!"
https://x.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1817992828670140601
ok and one more couch meme
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTrQU0maQAAqTfl?format=jpg&name=small)
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White Dudes for Kamala call https://whitedudesforharris.com/
Monday at 8:00pm.
I assume most of you will be on the call tonight ;)
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Hutch...were you feeling left out?
have I got a call for you
https://events.democrats.org/event/655623/
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Mayor Pete wants the job!!
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/north-carolina-governor-withdraws-kamala-harris-vp-pool-source-2024-07-29/
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Biden didn’t have to drop out. The onus was on other democrats to challenge him in the primaries. That didn’t happen. The primaries did happen. Obviously there was substantial pressure placed so that there wouldn’t be serious challenges but that doesn’t absolve other democrats.
And you say he should have dropped out last fall and yet after he delivered his State of the Union a few months ago not one person -of the dozens that recently called for him to drop out- asked for him to drop out. Maybe his health deteriorated more recently. I have no idea.
I remain unconvinced that Biden needed to drop out. It was everyone - the media, other D politicians- freaking out and asking for him to drop out that made it necessary for him to drop out. Obama stabbing him in the back was the death blow.
That’s not to say I am not livid at Biden’s circle - first of all- for agreeing to the debates at all and for not having “the talk” with Joe. Maybe they tried but it sure doesn’t seem like it. I feel deceived.
Does this mean that you think Biden should have stayed in the race and could have won?
Biden seems relatively ok on scripted events (or at least not significantly worse than usual) but it's the interviews or unscripted events where he struggles. They literally stopped having interviews and press conferences, its now reported they stopped having cabinet meetings, everything was scripted for him.
If you feel deceived by Biden and his team, why do you think that other Democrats who would be in a position to run didn't have the same lack of information that you do? They don't see the President or interact with him outside of scripted events either. It's not just the pressure, right, it's also a lack of information.
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Does it matter anymore. Just search my recent posts on this.
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Forgive me if this one has already been posted. I'm still laughing.
https://x.com/wontpacdown/status/1817953425558270183
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Does it matter anymore. Just search my recent posts on this.
I thought you were in the he should have just weathered the storm camp. I totally respect it, just trying to understand. But if that's the camp, then to some degree, nothing to blame his people for. They were all trying to weather it together, and it's really George Clooney's fault.
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I can’t explain it any better than I already have in many posts but it boils down to retaining control of WH and timing. All these people going public waited way too long. Jill and his circle never did.
It’s not about whether Joe is in great shape or not. It’s about retaining WH.
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I think the Harris/Stallion ticket could retain the white house.
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Who is the stallion?
Pretty sure her vp will be Shapiro. Was always kind of obvious
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Who is the stallion?
Pretty sure her vp will be Shapiro. Was always kind of obvious
Meg N. Stallion
I assumed you would be familiar with her policies
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Who is the stallion?
Pretty sure her vp will be Shapiro. Was always kind of obvious
Meg N. Stallion
I assumed you would be familiar with her policies
actually surprised to learn about her non-muisc activities https://x.com/TheeHottieSquad/status/1818486111515091000
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this logic makes sense
Jesse Watters - “I heard the scientists say the other day that when a man votes for a woman, he actually transitions into a woman.”
https://x.com/LanceUSA70/status/1818611415487250797
Finally this board will have more women posting. So do we have to wait for Nov 5th or does early voting mean early transition?
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Who is the stallion?
Pretty sure her vp will be Shapiro. Was always kind of obvious
Kelly or Walz seem like better choices in terms of appealing to the blue collar crowd.
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It’s about winning Pennsylvania.
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It’s about winning Pennsylvania.
I feel like pro-Israel Shapiro helps them win the 19 electoral votes in PA but helps them lose the 15 electoral votes in MI.
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It’s about winning Pennsylvania.
I'm becoming a fan of Tim Waltz, but I do like Shapiro. PA is very important, and he is popular (https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/josh-shapiro-approval-republicans-independents-20240513.html#)
that article shows how he has support from Trump voters... so not sure how that plays out when they are both on the same ballot
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It’s about winning Pennsylvania.
I feel like pro-Israel Shapiro helps them win the 19 electoral votes in PA but helps them lose the 15 electoral votes in MI.
there are some pretty dense Muslim populations in MI, but there are only ~250k and Michigan has 8.3 million registered voters
now there is a decent percent of progressives that are anti Isreal, but not sure how much of the MI pop they make up
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It’s about winning Pennsylvania.
I feel like pro-Israel Shapiro helps them win the 19 electoral votes in PA but helps them lose the 15 electoral votes in MI.
there are some pretty dense Muslim populations in MI, but there are only ~250k and Michigan has 8.3 million registered voters
now there is a decent percent of progressives that are anti Isreal, but not sure how much of the MI pop they make up
Ok, still think Shapiro's resume is too similar to Harris's. Kelly (and to a degree Walz) has the military experience, the centrist national policies, and appeals more to Joe Six Pack than Shapiro does.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JoJ2HnMt6Q
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JoJ2HnMt6Q
actually seemed like a real human being in that clip
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but helps them lose the 15 electoral votes in MI.
At the risk of having this quoted back at me in November: I think Kamala is going to win Michigan handily REGARDLESS of VP choice.
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If you believe this election is about Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, I literally don't know how you roll out Kelly with his seemingly anti-labor voting history. If you think Muslims in MI are going to tank a state, just start pissing off UAW and other organized labor groups.
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If you believe this election is about Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, I literally don't know how you roll out Kelly with his seemingly anti-labor voting history. If you think Muslims in MI are going to tank a state, just start pissing off UAW and other organized labor groups.
Admittedly, I'd need to read up on his labor voting record. I read that he was pretty moderate on guns and immigration, so that's what I was going on.
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There is a difference with the help a popular governor of a state provides in THAT state as a VP and what a likable guy from another state that most voters in other states barely know can provide in help.
I mean voters in PA may vote for Harris if the ticket includes their own popular governor but Kelly???? Or the other dude they barely know?? There are like 95 days to go. Not a lot of time to get to know these fellas.
Come on folks use the 🧠. We simply must win PA but it’s a heavy lift. We need help THERE.
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Taylor Swift is from PA...
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Josh Shapiro is a GenXer who lived in DC and went to Georgetown Law in late ‘90’s / early ‘00s. I would like to know his record as it relates to attending 9:30 Club shows.
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Josh Shapiro is a GenXer who lived in DC and went to Georgetown Law in late ‘90’s / early ‘00s. I would like to know his record as it relates to attending 9:30 Club shows.
76ers, Old Forge pizza, Pocono Raceway: Gov.
PennLive.com
https://www.pennlive.com › news › 2023/01 › 76ers-old...
Jan 13, 2023 — Gov.-elect Josh Shapiro lists the NASCAR races at Pocono Raceway as a favorite Pennsylvania event. ... Favorite music genres: Country and rap.
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Josh Shapiro is a GenXer who lived in DC and went to Georgetown Law in late ‘90’s / early ‘00s. I would like to know his record as it relates to attending 9:30 Club shows.
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Jan 13, 2023 — Gov.-elect Josh Shapiro lists.. Favorite music genres: Country and rap.
Hmmm that's prime hatch attendance at 9:30 and both those genres were not highly represented in that era...unless he means alt-country
but I agree, this is important information
altho...we already know Kamala has a lock on the jazz/funk vinyl crowd
people keep modifying this pic...this one adds GWAR
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Inquirer.com
https://www.inquirer.com › Politics › Pennsylvania
Jan 13, 2023 — 'Something for everyone': Wiz Khalifa, Smokey Robinson, and Mt. Joy to play Josh Shapiro inaugural celebration.
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Maya Rudolph will return to ‘SNL’ to play Kamala Harris through 2024 election (https://wtop.com/entertainment/2024/07/maya-rudolph-will-return-to-snl-to-play-kamala-harris-through-2024-election/)
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Josh Shapiro is a GenXer who lived in DC and went to Georgetown Law in late ‘90’s / early ‘00s. I would like to know his record as it relates to attending 9:30 Club shows.
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Jan 13, 2023 — Gov.-elect Josh Shapiro lists.. Favorite music genres: Country and rap.
Hmmm that's prime hatch attendance at 9:30 and both those genres were not highly represented in that era...unless he means alt-country
but I agree, this is important information
altho...we already know Kamala has a lock on the jazz/funk vinyl crowd
people keep modifying this pic...this one adds GWAR
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There is apparently a meme generator now, Kamala Holding Vinyls (https://kamala-holding-vinyls.glitch.me/), but it's either down or getting slammed.
I know some joker is gonna post her with Tower Of Power's "Back To Oakland".
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There is apparently a meme generator now, Kamala Holding Vinyls (https://kamala-holding-vinyls.glitch.me/), but it's either down or getting slammed.
oh this is fantastic
I just made one
(https://i.imgur.com/Wvrutyj.jpeg)
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Country and rock and NASCAR. The data says he should be a big Dave Matthews or Phish guy. . . but he’s a Kid Rock Democrat!
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There is apparently a meme generator now, Kamala Holding Vinyls (https://kamala-holding-vinyls.glitch.me/), but it's either down or getting slammed.
UMD won't let me connect on their network. I turned off wifi on my phone and could connect via 5G.
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TFG just gave the gift of loads of advertising content to the Harris campaign… and of course TFG will just add this appearance to the long list of grievances
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TFG just gave the gift of loads of advertising content to the Harris campaign… and of course TFG will just add this appearance to the long list of grievances
I assume you are talking about the NABJ appearance...yowzah
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1818737608765456659
There is apparently a meme generator now, Kamala Holding Vinyls (https://kamala-holding-vinyls.glitch.me/), but it's either down or getting slammed.
UMD won't let me connect on their network. I turned off wifi on my phone and could connect via 5G.
you know the deep state controls universities, so this tracks
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this logic makes sense
Jesse Watters - “I heard the scientists say the other day that when a man votes for a woman, he actually transitions into a woman.”
https://x.com/LanceUSA70/status/1818611415487250797
Finally this board will have more women posting. So do we have to wait for Nov 5th or does early voting mean early transition?
So every man who voted for MTG and Lauren B. are now women?
By that logic there would be very few men left… aka a crowning achievement of non critical thinking
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these racist Pundits say "DEI" when you know they really want to say is the n-word, but know they can get away with it
https://x.com/MikeSington/status/1816123356200198501 (https://x.com/MikeSington/status/1816123356200198501)
i saw this great meme on the twatter the other day but can't find it now:
setting: a white boss-dude is interviewing a black woman for a job.
white male employer: "so, how does it feel to be hired based on your race and gender?"
black woman: "i dunno, you tell me."
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Boom
If Kamala was trying to deny her Indian heritage she would have changed her name to Nikki.
https://x.com/pappiness/status/1818865098020339869?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
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personally, i'm on the complete opposite end: getting high = zero chance of lifting, 98% chance of couching.
This comment has taken on new meaning in recent days.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTxYY-_X0AAYlkS?format=jpg&name=small)
speaking of: MUST WATCH (https://x.com/lyssafella/status/1819145645200232539)
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now they have one for jules too
https://swiftiesforkamala.substack.com/
https://www.thecut.com/article/swifties-for-harris-ask-are-you-ready-for-it.html
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nate's feeling pretty positive about the dems chances after a few weeks of post 7/21 polling
https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model
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Well hopefully the economy don’t crater…it’s only August
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Well hopefully the economy don’t crater…it’s only August
bah. between the fed refusing to cut interest rates last week, and an unexpectedly weak job report that came out late friday, a market correction was foreseeable.
yesterday, terms like "black monday", "kamala crash" and the like were trending on twitter. IMO the right was trying to weaponize an expected event, and the hype has contributed to making this market downturn just a little worse than it might otherwise have been.
trump is gloating... but he really really shouldn't (https://x.com/58bugeye/status/1820489107392672235).
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Since Election Day 2020 the Dow is up 50%. And it cratered under Trump before the Covid bailout turned tide (and presumably helped accelerate inflation). This should be a winnable issue for the Dems.
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Greetings from Wayfinder Brewing. I'm here canvassing the local tent dwellers, telling them all about the good things Harris has in store for them The general consensus seems to be Walz for VP, because he loves dogs.
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Shapiro crashed in betting markets and Walz skyrocketed
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Minnesota Gov Tim Walz
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I'm liking tim so far, knew nothing about him
https://x.com/clapifyoulikeme/status/1816853890710774240
I was an early Walz supporter !
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(https://www.newsfromme.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/larrybudmelman.jpg)
OMG, it's Bud Melman!
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I'm liking tim so far, knew nothing about him
https://x.com/clapifyoulikeme/status/1816853890710774240
I was an early Walz supporter !
Dude that was literally 11 days ago.
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I'm liking tim so far, knew nothing about him
https://x.com/clapifyoulikeme/status/1816853890710774240
I was an early Walz supporter !
Dude that was literally 11 days ago.
(https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Titanic-84-Years.gif)
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So guess we’ll find out just how despicable TFG and company with their attacks on Walz.
Seeing as these are some his accomplishments and a military career.
I realize that in conservative circles these are all big taboos, but hopefully moderates will see through their BS.
Universal school meals
-Stronger labor protections
-Cannabis legalization
-Stronger LGBTQ+ protections
-paid leave/sick
-100% clean energy by 2030
-repro rights
-$1B for housing
-gun safety
-cut child poverty 1/3
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That’s funny
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I hope Harris’ team know what they are doing here….They must! I was expecting Shapiro to be the nominee. I feel like the MN/MI/WI are an easier lift than PA. Not sure how much Walz helps in PA.
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Forgive my biblical name dropping, but let's hope this Tim is more Able than Kaine.
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Via The Tisbury’s seems like a very strong strategy
They need to let Walz free roam NEPA. Drop him in Tunkhannock, PA in a pickup with a topped off tank, a AAA road atlas and a list of all the church picnic, festivals and county fairs and just let that man cook.
https://x.com/broadandmarket/status/1820821184499384786?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
And I just watched the video he did with daughter at the MN State Fair, it’s freaking adorable
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https://x.com/theholdsteady/status/1820826589606584385
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https://x.com/theholdsteady/status/1820826589606584385
Tim Walz: only VP to have seen the Hold Steady?
sealed the deal for me ;)
this is funny if you know the THS
She said there's gonna come a time when I'm gonna have to go
With whoever's gonna get me the highest electoral count
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TFG is now reduced to writing Fanfic, but honestly he should debate Biden again. Let Biden be himself and just constantly call him a sonofabitch and just totally get under his skin.
Oh and as always fact checking and critical thinking is lacking in the TFG camp… besides the obvious fact that TFG’s a felon, trying to knock Walz for embracing policies to allow released felons to be able to vote is pretty pathetic given (checks notes)
“That's the same exact rule as already exists in half the states, including... Ohio, the home state of Trump's running-mate!”
Oh and apparently providing tampons to schools is winding up the weirdo’s
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Merciless lifted from the dumpster site
Tim Walz went there on JD Vance: "I gotta tell you, I can't wait to debate the guy if he's willing to get off the couch and show up
Also, Biden should be awarding the medal of freedom to the dude who started that couch rumor
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Today is a day to truly appreciate just how tremendous of a bullshit generation machine X has become. Go ahead and click those links to #TamponTim and #KamalaChaos and luxuriate in the warm jets of bullshit cascading over you. Immerse in the brain melting nonsense.
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Merciless lifted from the dumpster site
Tim Walz went there on JD Vance: "I gotta tell you, I can't wait to debate the guy if he's willing to get off the couch and show up
Also, Biden should be awarding the medal of freedom to the dude who started that couch rumor
I just saw this….hilarious
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Also, Biden should be awarding the medal of freedom to the dude who started that couch rumor
This would be fun to pick someone that would just drive the right nuts for the award
That rush thing was crazy
And did exactly what he wanted
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Ugh is the MSM going to help facilitate this lame attempt at swift boating Walz.. write better headlines people
Also, the Harris team better get their messaging regarding Palestine in place, because there will likely be more protesters at events and quite frankly Kamala could have provided a better response than she did last night. Especially in Michigan
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Aggressively fight for control of the narrative. Create news that gives MSM and NYT a new headline. They will post the BS clickbait all day everyday . . .so you have to address it with something else they can use. ‘Walz Calls out Draft Dodging Private Bonespurs After Stolen Valor Comments’.
I don’t hate Harris’ response. An election is a binary choice. This is a campaign, not a Biden administration event. Don’t they know her opponent is even more aligned against their interests? Is that what they want?
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An election is a binary choice.
I think Dr West, Jr and Jill would take issue with that truthful comment
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Someone at a mall yesterday was asking for signatures to get Stein on VA ballot. Obviously said no. Unfortunately my kids were with me and I don’t think I did a good job explaining why I don’t want the Green Party on ballot (when I always say we need third parties and that the big parties aren’t concerned enough with the environment). We need other parties but the US electoral system makes it impossible.
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We need other parties but the US electoral system makes it impossible.
100% agree, I'm a huge proponent of more parties, but between the EC and the voters being so evenly split, it's only a spoiler most of the times, rather than making a difference
saw this today and couldn't agree more...this is for NKOTB
@chrislongview
a brief history lesson for the youths:
we did not get Barack Obama to ditch Don't Ask Don't Tell and publicly support marriage equality by protesting him BEFORE he was elected. you need a leader in office before you can lobby them to get what you want.
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Well I disagree with that history lesson..
At the rate things go viral these days, her scolding those protesters was not the best response. I’m assuming it’s all over tik-tok and in a razor thin state like Michigan maybe not best to alienate the youth, etc.
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I don’t know about that……
A lot of people- myself included- believe these protesters are out of line numbskulls. You might lose a few of their votes on the left fringe which you probably weren’t going to get anyway but you might gain more votes in the middle. And let’s face it Trump has made a killing appearing tough. It’s his whole act and it works. Kamala can’t confront that by singing kumbaya and holding hands with protesters.
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The Green Party would be a lot more tolerable — and successful — if instead of throwing all their energy into these tilting at windmills efforts to disrupt Presidential elections, they focused on Congress and tried to build up a beachhead of 15-20 seats over the next two decades. That they refuse to do this — the way small parties do in Western Europe — makes the entire “Party” feel like there’s not adults in the room for me, a person who’d throw a green candidate a seat in state or congressional elections, to trust.
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The Green Party would be a lot more tolerable — and successful — if instead of throwing all their energy into these tilting at windmills efforts to disrupt Presidential elections, they focused on Congress and tried to build up a beachhead of 15-20 seats over the next two decades. That they refuse to do this — the way small parties do in Western Europe — makes the entire “Party” feel like there’s not adults in the room for me, a person who’d throw a green candidate a seat in state or congressional elections, to trust.
I 100% agree with this. Greens need to start local, then move to the reps, then get a senate seat...that's the only path
but starting with the POTUS is just stupid
You might lose a few of their votes on the left fringe which you probably weren’t going to get anyway but you might gain more votes in the middle.
yep
focus on the winable votes, don't waste $ or time on people who were never going to vote for you unless you meet ALL of their demands
that's just not the way elections work and the fringe are stupid for thinking it does
Well I disagree with that history lesson..
the history lesson was for the youts, not the person running for POTUS
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I mean, obviously you need to never stop pressuring public officials, but the idea that it's better to do it after they're elected is insane. Voting should be transactional...they want your vote and you want your and others material conditions to improve. Once someone is in office, there is no lever of influence to get then to do anything! You can vote in another 2, 4, 6 years, but then you'll be too busy picking the lesser of two evils, and the cycle continues.
Doesn't mean they'll actually follow through, obviously, but at least they're on record and you can work to hold them to that.
I think what the uncommitted campaign has done is incredible...you are providing bombs that are being used to commit a genocide, so you aren't getting our vote. Easy as.
@chrislongview
a brief history lesson for the youths:
we did not get Barack Obama to ditch Don't Ask Don't Tell and publicly support marriage equality by protesting him BEFORE he was elected. you need a leader in office before you can lobby them to get what you want.
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I think what the uncommitted campaign has done is incredible...you are providing bombs that are being used to commit a genocide, so you aren't getting our vote. Easy as.
weird how you only castigate one party for this...when except for a few elected officials (some who just lost their jobs for this stance)... just about every other person in gov't that has power has backed Israel
lots are not backing Bibi though...and that's a big change
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I only used that as an example of having a concrete demand, and flexing the only power you have (your vote) to get it.
Biden is the president, and has unconditionally backed giving weapons to Israel. He was up for re-election, so they used their power to send him a message.
Should there have been an uncommitted movement on the Republican side? Of course...but that base is a bunch of hooting hogs that would love to see brown people wiped off the face of the earth. Why bother even pretending that should be part of the discussion here?
I think what the uncommitted campaign has done is incredible...you are providing bombs that are being used to commit a genocide, so you aren't getting our vote. Easy as.
weird how you only castigate one party for this...when except for a few elected officials (some who just lost their jobs for this stance)... just about every other person in gov't that has power has backed Israel
lots are not backing Bibi though...and that's a big change
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The Green Party .... they focused on Congress and tried to build up a beachhead of 15-20 seats over the next two decades.
so they have done some, but no congressional seat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States
As of November 7, 2023 elections, at least 142 Greens hold elected office across the United States.
but most importantly: As of 2023, no nominee of the Green Party has been elected to office in the federal government.
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so I'm all about voter rights, but I think the democratic party needs to just be ok with Voter ID
It's just hard to defend to a waffling voter
I get why Voter ID 100% impacts one party more
but just make sure that people without Voter ID can submit their vote provisionally and then scrutinized fully at that time whether that vote is legit or not
I don't know the numbers, but is it that big of an impact in battle ground states?
I just think if we take some of the GOP demands and just deliver, they are caught flat footed
of all things, i'm somewhat ok with giving ground on this
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yikes and biden needs to make weed legal ASAP
Trump just said he supports rescheduling and legalization of Cannabis.
we can't have this a win for the GOP when it's such an easy get
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The Green Party .... they focused on Congress and tried to build up a beachhead of 15-20 seats over the next two decades.
so they have done some, but no congressional seat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States
As of November 7, 2023 elections, at least 142 Greens hold elected office across the United States.
but most importantly: As of 2023, no nominee of the Green Party has been elected to office in the federal government.
They do not hold a single state legislature seat in the entire country. They’re doing this so ass-backwards.
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I just think if we take some of the GOP demands and just deliver, they are caught flat footed
of all things, i'm somewhat ok with giving ground on this
unfortunately we live in a highly polarized zero-sum political environment. if Dems give in on this, the GOP will gloat "see we told you they'd cave because we're right", "GOP policies for the win", etc. and it would also taint future clashes: "the Dems were wrong on voter ID, and still they're wrong on <insert issue du jour>"
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It’s so cute that the hooting hogs are trying to start a meme/rumor that Walz blew a horse… this is not how this stuff works dimwits.. leave such activities to the experts
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of course I searched x for horse and walz...I don't think this is gonna stick, but they are trying
I'm here for the rod stewart rumor to resurface in memes
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This guy is weird
https://www.the-express.com/news/politics/145483/rfk-jr-roadkill-freezer-dead-bear-central-park
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The couch thing works because it is believable. It resonates because it’s like a shorthand for the weird creepiness people instinctively feel about the guy.
That doesn’t work with Walz. It doesn’t fit. Of course those guys don’t understand the difference and that’s why none of them are funny or have a good sense of humor.
One other thing is that I saw Harris isn’t giving interviews. I like that. Taylor Swift and Beyonce built massively powerful movements and never give real interviews. We don’t know sh*t about who they are really like or really think. The aura is the message.
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This fits for me, but then again I’m not running for president
Lawrence O’Donnell
“Vast well of Stupidity that takes up most of his brain”
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love this translator!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUjPYdiWgAAX3Od?format=jpg&name=large)
in other news...
Joe Rogan, Tim Pool, and Nick Fuentes have made public statements against Trump today.
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The Green Party .... they focused on Congress and tried to build up a beachhead of 15-20 seats over the next two decades.
so they have done some, but no congressional seat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States
As of November 7, 2023 elections, at least 142 Greens hold elected office across the United States.
but most importantly: As of 2023, no nominee of the Green Party has been elected to office in the federal government.
They do not hold a single state legislature seat in the entire country. They’re doing this so ass-backwards.
The Green Party has tried a bunch of different strategies to gain relevence, including supporting local candidates in the hopes they could later break through. The problem is, once they have wanted to run for bigger office they've all had to switch to become Dems. Local races are just really low information contests, so I think it's hard to break through. Famously, Sinema was a green party activist.
My sense is that running a presidential candidate keeps them in the public consciousness, which allows them to raise money and stay afloat.
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not sure why this isn't bigger news!
https://boingboing.net/2024/08/07/tim-walz-digs-the-replacements-and-husker-du-the-latters-bob-mould-responds.html
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Tim Kaine is a huge Replacements and Cornershop fan….
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Tim Kaine is a huge Replacements and Cornershop fan….
Didnt know the Cornershop piece but I’ve literally seen him at Tommy Stinson house shows in RVA.
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Tim Kaine is a huge Replacements and Cornershop fan….
Didnt know the Cornershop piece but I’ve literally seen him at Tommy Stinson house shows in RVA.
yeah there is an article out there about his Cornershop love
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Trump’s campaign seems to have “classic rock band with only some original members on summer tour, venue moved from enormodome to smaller shed” energy.
https://x.com/pulmyears/status/1822332994037698942?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
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Or like Motley Crue in 1994, white dread Vanilla Ice or Limp Bizkit in 2003 after Wes Borland left.
The classic rock shows at least are feel good nostalgia. Even like a ‘Mickey Thomas’ Starship’ show on a nice summer night with some beers could be fun and harmless
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Make fun of Trump all you want, he still has a good shot at being 47. There are just that many retards in America.
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Tim Kaine is a huge Replacements and Cornershop fan….
Is anyone really a "huge" Cornershop fan? mean I love everything I've heard from them sporadically over the years, but I think of them very rarely.
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Make fun of Trump all you want, he still has a good shot at being 47. There are just that many retards in America.
People still vastly underestimate how vulnerable we are to manipulation and how powerful the forces are that manipulate us
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Yes. I am.
I doubt you have heard much other than When I was born for the 7th time. You liked everything you heard but you didn’t hear much cause Entertainment Weekly stopped reviewing them decades ago.
I will take Handcream for a generation or even the Clinton album over WIWBFT7T any day.
But there are those of us who love everything they do. I even like the album with the Punjabi singer.
Kaine’s comments on Cornershop are featured on their website.
But the greater point was who cares if they have cool taste? Doesn’t get you votes!!
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(https://i.ibb.co/hdT7D6T/IMG-3646.png) (https://ibb.co/myPD6jP)
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polls-smolls who needs them
but must say the battel ground states are really having a seismic shift in the last 3 weeks
https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model
even RCP is leaning Harris
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris
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Make fun of Trump all you want, he still has a good shot at being 47. There are just that many retards in America.
Wow someone posted my thoughts
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Best news ever
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-flee-venezuela-loses-election-elon-musk-interview-1938321
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What makes you think "retards", as you call them, would be dumb enough to vote for Trump. That is a put-down to "retards", as you call them.
Make fun of Trump all you want, he still has a good shot at being 47. There are just that many retards in America.
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What makes you think "retards", as you call them, would be dumb enough to vote for Trump. That is a put-down to "retards", as you call them.
Make fun of Trump all you want, he still has a good shot at being 47. There are just that many retards in America.
"MAGA moron" and "retard" are interchangeable terms to me. Ain't the English language great that it leaves room for flexibility in word definitions?
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It does? I was not aware of the equivalence between the words. I will check the dictionary. You must be right.
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I can't really articulate what I'd like to say here, but I'll just go so far to say that there is a pretty deep divide in our country. Much of it is rooted in cynicism and ignorance, and the inherent need some people that some people feel to embrace ugliness. It's likely what they're feeling on the inside, and it's comforting and dare I say entertaining when someone can articulate the menace, disgust, and rage that they're teeming with. Ugliness isn't innate in us, it's something that grows inside through abuse, malice, being ignored and being told we are lazy, dumb, and that we don't matter. By the way, I'm not excusing or supporting violence in any way...far from it. Some of you know where I was on 1/6. So this is a particularly personal issue to me.
That being said, if you have 22 minutes, I encourage you to watch Nick Cave's interview with Stephen Colbert. It's personal, it is beautiful and one of the best interviews I have ever seen anyone give. Nick's point on hopefulness is one that I think must be highlighted. In the last few weeks, many Americans went from a place of despair, hopelessness, and resignation to a place of joy, optimism, hope, and sheer excitement. Though I agree that a victory for Trump isn't far from his grasp, I think Nick's point about hopefulness being combative is on point. The country is dying from the thirst and need to feel joyful and to have a path forward. People think I'm crazy, but this isn't entirely about politics, it's about a deeper and more challenging divide that shows a cultural and existential split in our country. There are many factors in that I won't get into. But there's a reason why people are reacting to the shift and change in the Presidential ticket. For a change, this all feels entirely new, and I think that will motivate and drive people for the remainder of this cycle. But Nick Cave sums up much of what I feel: to embrace hopefulness, you have to understand loss, how dark things can get, and how if you're given enough time on the planet, life experience can teach you that in order to keep moving forward you have to let go of cynicism. It's OK to be hopeful realist: prepare for anything (including the worst), but realize that it's OK to acknowledge the good in other humans and have faith that there are many more people that see the good in others too.
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/nick-cave-talks-working-with-johnny-cash-new-album-wild-god-more-on-colbert-watch/
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Much of it is rooted in cynicism and ignorance, and the inherent need some people that some people feel to embrace ugliness. It's likely what they're feeling on the inside, and it's comforting and dare I say entertaining when someone can articulate the menace, disgust, and rage that they're teeming with. Ugliness isn't innate in us, it's something that grows inside through abuse, malice, being ignored and being told we are lazy, dumb, and that we don't matter.
Not sure what I did to Bearman to have him write this diatribe, putting me on blast but here we are!
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In case you hadn't checked your calendar, its caravan of migrants season
ok this was marginally funny
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GU9Y5cKXwAAY5VV?format=jpg&name=large)
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Much of it is rooted in cynicism and ignorance, and the inherent need some people that some people feel to embrace ugliness. It's likely what they're feeling on the inside, and it's comforting and dare I say entertaining when someone can articulate the menace, disgust, and rage that they're teeming with. Ugliness isn't innate in us, it's something that grows inside through abuse, malice, being ignored and being told we are lazy, dumb, and that we don't matter.
Not sure what I did to Bearman to have him write this diatribe, putting me on blast but here we are!
Haha, it wasn't aimed at you silly. I love a good curmudgeon. Some of my best friends are curmudgeons.
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You can, no doubt, understand my mistake.
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Corey Lewandowski is baaaack
just when this shit show couldn't get any shitter...Trump campaign says "hold my beer"
Also, kinda weak sauce that the media love to publish hacked emails from the Dems, but they get a bunch of emails from Trump and they now have a moral code?
Ha, I do like that the Harris campaign has decided that snark is going to be a part of it
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVCUACKWoAI1Z0F?format=jpg&name=medium)
This is so funny it seems fake
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nice Beto/Walz and The Boss story
https://x.com/maddenifico/status/1823856505986429119
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ok...yes a questionable source...but looks like Trump has employed Tulsi for debate prep
https://x.com/maggieNYT/status/1824487370953314409
what a turd she is for backstabbing the dems when ever she gets a chance
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nice Beto/Walz and The Boss story
https://x.com/maddenifico/status/1823856505986429119
love that
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(https://i.postimg.cc/zD6xCyXR/Screenshot-2024-08-16-at-4-58-00-PM.png)
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is he trying to get kicked out of Tenacious D?
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trump is trying to cause more problems in Gaza
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1825934511038939515
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trump is trying to cause more problems in Gaza
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1825934511038939515
Duh
But I don’t see it helping with people calling the president Genocide Joe. NKOTB?
Sick of seeing Blinken in Jerusalem groveling for something they don’t want. He should only show up in person for a ceasefire signing. Has he not heard of videoconference calls?
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Wow, now he's lost my vote :'(
Duh
But I don’t see it helping with people calling the president Genocide Joe. NKOTB?
What are the "more problems"? Biden is giving endless weapons to perpetuate the genocide right now! I've never seen a dead or dying or maimed child in my life, up until this war, and now I see one at least twice a week. What's worse? Some more bombs? We've already given them more than they could ever use.
trump is trying to cause more problems in Gaza
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1825934511038939515
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Wow, now he's lost my vote :'(
Duh
But I don’t see it helping with people calling the president Genocide Joe. NKOTB?
What are the "more problems"? Biden is giving endless weapons to perpetuate the genocide right now! I've never seen a dead or dying or maimed child in my life, up until this war, and now I see one at least twice a week. What's worse? Some more bombs? We've already given them more than they could ever use.
trump is trying to cause more problems in Gaza
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1825934511038939515
https://www.tampabay.com/news/nation/lasers-may-ease-pain-for-napalm-girl-in-photo/2251220/
You have a short memory.
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Sorry forgot that war that was over half a decade before I was born. Might as well throw in this kid too
(https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/streams/2013/July/130729/6C8441392-130729-science-icemaiden.jpg)
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War is ugly.
I would question the statement that the US is giving “endless weapons” to Israel.
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Anyway...
https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1826642832859533704
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Trump Will Host January 6th "Awards Gala" in September
yikes!
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Trump Will Host January 6th "Awards Gala" in September
yikes!
1/6 is to MAGA as 9/11 is to the Taliban
Just checked: the gala is on 9/5.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/j2Gw29qk/Screenshot-2024-08-22-160823.png) (https://x.com/AbbyHiggs/status/1826355722986422275)
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Trump Will Host January 6th "Awards Gala" in September
yikes!
1/6 is to MAGA as 9/11 is to the Taliban
Just checked: the gala is on 9/5.
How is this not front page news?
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I thought it was fake news.
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I thought it was fake news.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/us/politics/fund-raiser-jan-6-defendants-trump-golf-club.html
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Yes I know it’s not fake news. I originally thought it was fake news but looked into it and it’s legitimate.
It kind of makes sense. Trump wants a violent overthrow if he loses. This type of thing is a clear message to his followers to do Jan 6 again but bigger and go down as “heroes”…. As it becomes more possible that he will lose expect more and more of this….
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Perhaps finally TFG’s parole officer will finally be able to have the you really shouldn’t be seen hanging out with felons chat and toss him in jail
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The judiciary has shown it just won’t do anything to Trump until and only if he loses the election. I mean the guy should have been in jail years ago.
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How is this legal?
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/23/politics/trump-businesses-campaign-spending-invs/index.html
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Interesting, according to RCP on this day in 2016 Hillary was up by 6% and on this day in 2020 Joe was up by 7.4%.
Kamala is currently up by 1.5%.
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Interesting, according to RCP on this day in 2016 Hillary was up by 6% and on this day in 2020 Joe was up by 7.4%.
Kamala is currently up by 1.5%.
Fascinating. Next?
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Too close….
https://www.washingtonpost.com/food/2024/08/26/trump-visit-vietnamese-restaurant/?fbclid=IwY2xjawE6HVtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHav074z9dtJ-udjHuXIYmCCM9msdAOuLH7rzuU6bd-PBr2TzZ_lpW7MHRQ_aem_fcjFcc4R0LrFLHlaQqyihw
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surprises me that he would get
Thai Vietnamese food,
as his ideal meal is well done steak with ketchup
"ordered all the dishes to go"
so he likely didn't eat any
edit...fixed type of food
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surprises me that he would get Thai food,
as his ideal meal is well done steak with ketchup
"ordered all the dishes to go"
so he likely didn't eat any
Perhaps to you they're the same thing, but the article says it was a Vietnamese restaurant.
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surprises me that he would get Thai food,
as his ideal meal is well done steak with ketchup
"ordered all the dishes to go"
so he likely didn't eat any
Perhaps to you they're the same thing, but the article says it was a Vietnamese restaurant.
they are not, but somewhat simliar...was my mistake. Was going to put asian and for some reason I changed to Thai
Eden center is called little Saigon ...so most, if not all, are Vietnamese
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"ordered all the dishes to go"
so he likely didn't eat any
Noticed that detail and thought the same thing. I'm a fairly picky eater myself and eat mostly garbage (my biggest bugaboo is onions lurking in so many recipes), but I'm not anywhere close to his pickiness.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/rpD5gVx3/IMG-7142.jpg)
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Following what was said above, it’s weird that Wapo specifically said he ‘sampled’ dishes when he ordered everything to go and presumably didn’t eat anything. Did they just write what PR told them, lazy or intentionally misleading?
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Bowie, speaking from the grave. Sounds about right.
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Bowie, speaking from the grave. Sounds about right.
I know Issac Hayes family/ estate is suing the Trump campaign too, that should have been on here
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(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/457741601_930129142488191_8480404990167466923_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=_seDgiZ_LR0Q7kNvgFbAX-C&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AYAWp7V3BuAzo1q-lDCQguqOv9MszcVhwTdv1X1XssuJ9w&oe=66D7BE70)
Bowie, speaking from the grave. Sounds about right.
He usually does this via a giant teakettle.
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Bowie, speaking from the grave. Sounds about right.
I know Issac Hayes family/ estate is suing the Trump campaign too, that should have been on here
what I learned yesterday is that BMI has a Political Entities License to authorize to use of the musical works for campaigns, which of course TFG whip-smart campaign team didn't apply for. Of course all the song licensing experts with blue ticks will claim that the venue where TFG holds his "events" have the license already covered...
BMI is backing the Hayes estate lawsuit over the use of "Hold On I'm Coming"
Jack White, etc. should do what Taylor Swift did once and sue TFG for $25 just to make a point...
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Andrew Sullivan writes a new column after break and says his last column - the one I cited where he said Kamala would be a disaster as a candidate…the weakest option- was completely wrong.
I guess admitting you were wrong is something.
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My apologies
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My apologies
so I can use this as a blanket statement to forgive you for all the times you were wrong?
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Women love a good, sincere apology. You don't even necessarily need to have been or done anything wrong.
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I imagine you have been forced into many apologies, sincere or not
Women love a good, sincere apology. You don't even necessarily need to have been or done anything wrong.
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I imagine you have been forced into many apologies, sincere or not
Women love a good, sincere apology. You don't even necessarily need to have been or done anything wrong.
I'm honored that you think about me so much.
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My apologies
Hutch being Andrew Sullivan confirmed.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/SRcvHW7G/IMG-7145.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VstpS8Qb/IMG-7146.jpg)
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Democrats and analysts say Virginia is not a battleground, Trump's campaign soldiers on
Is NKOTB advising the trump campaign?
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I heard that today North Carolina began mailing out mail in ballots. I guess this marks the official start of the election itself. In a few days people will be able to return their ballots.
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I'm advising him that he's doing great, and so is JD, and to just keep doing what they're doing.
Democrats and analysts say Virginia is not a battleground, Trump's campaign soldiers on
Is NKOTB advising the trump campaign?
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I'm advising him that he's doing great, and so is JD, and to just keep doing what they're doing.
Democrats and analysts say Virginia is not a battleground, Trump's campaign soldiers on
Is NKOTB advising the trump campaign?
Your country thanks you for your contribution
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I heard that today North Carolina began mailing out mail in ballots. I guess this marks the official start of the election itself. In a few days people will be able to return their ballots.
actually they didn't
The NC Court of Appeals ordered the state NOT to send absentee ballots today, siding with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in his effort to be removed from the ballot.
dude is going to cause a huge mess with not wanting to appear on ballots, gotta make sure his cult leader isn't impacted..
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Fake news on NPR!!
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Trump sentencing delayed. Anyone with a comment?
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I know I've been waiting to hear your thoughts.
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My drive to Shenandoah today made me love my state. The many, many Trump signs made me hate my state.
If they didn't want felony conviction sentencing to affect the outcome of an election, maybe Trump shouldn't have committed the felonies?
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Oh, he's going to prison for sure. Way too messy to do right now so wait until he's available.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/MTKDHk6r/Screenshot-2024-09-06-at-8-24-57-PM.png)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/MTKDHk6r/Screenshot-2024-09-06-at-8-24-57-PM.png)
but think of all the interesting dead animals that could be in or on the car during that drive
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Even a stopped clock is right twice a day….
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-loses-it-on-the-cheneys-after-they-endorse-harris-irrelevant-rino-along-with-his-daughter/
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The Dems are really missing a topic that most Americans support, now Trump is backing it
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/trump-backs-federal-marijuana-rescheduling-and-cannabis-industry-banking-access/
I have a feeling this might be a October executive order
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An interesting NYT/Siena poll came out recently. Now it could be wrong but according to the poll absolutely nothing has changed since their last poll when Biden was still the candidate. Trump up 47-46. Trump perceived as the change agent.
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I just don’t see this as an important issue.
Now if Harris would release a plan to reconstitute Americans’ purchasing power…. We all know what’s going on: inflation has made us poorer. Things like paying for college are beyond most Americans means but they don’t do anything about it.
The federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour!!! How is that even possible??
Personally I think decreasing the proposed capital gains tax is a mistake.
What are democrats actually proposing or are they just going to say republicans are anti abortion and inflation has come down? Cause the inflation rate may have come down but it already happened. It already took a bite out of peoples income.
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not a fake photo?!
(https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1qpHJh.img?w=768&h=512&m=6&x=1243&y=434&s=359&d=359)
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now THAT'S a Dark Brandon
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not a fake photo?!
nope, not fake (https://x.com/travisakers/status/1834265440496890234)
on the one hand, joe is actively promoting unity. he's showing his human side, the desire to relate with someone on a personal level being more important than partisanship, etc. all positives.
on the other, the man looks and acts like he's 200 years old. dude needed to retire a year ago. i don't see how anyone thought he could last another 4 years. i'm now concerned he might not be able to finish his term.
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Is Laura Loomer the October surprise?
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I think she's the October Jump Scare
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWkuQFoXEAA2ckv.jpg)
Is Laura Loomer the October surprise?
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I think she's the October Jump Scare
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWkuQFoXEAA2ckv.jpg)
Is Laura Loomer the October surprise?
I really love saying her name.
Sorry, I've started the Friday drinking early.
Are the trying to imply she's his lover to cover up that she's his campaign manager?
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I was just seeing yet another picture of those two together and apparently she's living at dump-a-lago and wife #3 is holed up in NYC,,, like him having yet another affair will sway that cult in any way....
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She is a looker, but I defer to Space for official hotness assessment.
I was just seeing yet another picture of those two together and apparently she's living at dump-a-lago and wife #3 is holed up in NYC,,, like him having yet another affair will sway that cult in any way....
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@acnewsitics
Someone said Laura Loomer looks like Temu Melania, and I can't get it out of my head. 😂
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@acnewsitics
Someone said Laura Loomer looks like Temu Melania, and I can't get it out of my head. 😂
I’ve long maintained personal appearance is not board fodder but that’s a pretty good line.
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@acnewsitics
Someone said Laura Loomer looks like Temu Melania, and I can't get it out of my head. 😂
I’ve long maintained personal appearance is not board fodder but that’s a pretty good line.
mr BMI is speaking
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@acnewsitics
Someone said Laura Loomer looks like Temu Melania, and I can't get it out of my head. 😂
I’ve long maintained personal appearance is not board fodder but that’s a pretty good line.
mr BMI is speaking
As I recall, I’ve always been the one shining light of decency and shared humanity in this cesspool of mean girls.
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@acnewsitics
Someone said Laura Loomer looks like Temu Melania, and I can't get it out of my head. 😂
I’ve long maintained personal appearance is not board fodder but that’s a pretty good line.
mr BMI is speaking
Don’t we have a BMI thread? I was sure we had a BMI thread.
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@acnewsitics
Someone said Laura Loomer looks like Temu Melania, and I can't get it out of my head. 😂
I’ve long maintained personal appearance is not board fodder but that’s a pretty good line.
mr BMI is speaking
Don’t we have a BMI thread? I was sure we had a BMI thread.
I think jules was pretty freeform laying down his disgust for those with high BMI on any thread
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cesspool of mean girls.
I really feel like we need a 'Title of my sex-tape' thread
(this would be Jules's title, not mine)
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She is a looker, but I defer to Space for official hotness assessment.
I was just seeing yet another picture of those two together and apparently she's living at dump-a-lago and wife #3 is holed up in NYC,,, like him having yet another affair will sway that cult in any way....
Loomer is more of a looger than a looker.
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@acnewsitics
Someone said Laura Loomer looks like Temu Melania, and I can't get it out of my head. 😂
I’ve long maintained personal appearance is not board fodder but that’s a pretty good line.
mr BMI is speaking
Don’t we have a BMI thread? I was sure we had a BMI thread.
I think jules was pretty freeform laying down his disgust for those with high BMI on any thread
I have no recollection of any such thing. As I remember it, I’ve pretty much been a champion for body positivity since day 1.
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I think she's the October Jump Scare
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GWkuQFoXEAA2ckv.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fFwJTJEOIsM/hq720.jpg)
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so there have a been a ton of "they're eating the dogs" remixes, but as always The Kiffness rules them all:
The Kiffness - Eating the Cats ft. Donald Trump (Debate Remix) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BrCvZmSnKA)
All streaming royalties will be going to Clark County SPCA in Springfield Ohio (class move!)
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I'm not sure if we have a golf thread.
https://x.com/i/status/1772425495310737774
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I just have this horrible vision of the polls slightly understating Trumps percentage in a few swing states and Trump winning the electoral college even as Harris wins the popular vote. The two previous cycles have underestimated his vote. Definitely nervy.
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I'm shocked how excited the RW press is about Lady Gaga's DAD's endorsement
really, that's your big celebrity endorsement?!?!
I think getting endorsed by Hutch would carry more weight
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Cold
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sure, taylor swift endorsed kamala... but i suspect this bboard will be more excited about this endorsement (https://x.com/SteveEarle/status/1836408315913351645).
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I’m expecting evidence of VA “I Voted” stickers
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Cold
I was saying that you are a bigger celebrity than Gaga's papa
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Ugh, the Nebraska Rs are trying switch the state to winner-take-all....makes EC harder for Dem if passes
The Electoral College is fucked because of this winner-take-all stuff
Almost the whole reason we have battle ground states as so many states are a given to one side or the other
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Oh hey...early voting started in VA!!!!
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Ugh, the Nebraska Rs are trying switch the state to winner-take-all....makes EC harder for Dem if passes
The Electoral College is fucked because of this winner-take-all stuff
Almost the whole reason we have battle ground states as so many states are a given to one side or the other
And the corrupt as they come GA Board of Elections voted in a rule that ballots need to be hand counted. Talk about ratfucking an election…
Interesting the autocorrect just offered up rat fuckery as a suggestion
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Real idiot plot hours
Ariel Pink Calls Out Reporter In RFK Jr. Scandal “Who Lied To The World” About Him (https://www.stereogum.com/2281321/ariel-pink-calls-out-reporter-in-rfk-jr-scandal-who-lied-to-the-world-about-him/news/)
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Hey, are you a boot-licker, well have we got a boot for you
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYfWqLyaUAACOJs?format=jpg&name=large)
I love the 8 randomly autographed
I'm surprised they just didn't say...and for $250 more, you can have it signed
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And a watch to go with the boot.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/26/politics/trump-watches/index.html
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The Trump sneakers kicked ass. These are dogshit...he's really lost the juice.
Hey, are you a boot-licker, well have we got a boot for you
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYfWqLyaUAACOJs?format=jpg&name=large)
I love the 8 randomly autographed
I'm surprised they just didn't say...and for $250 more, you can have it signed
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all the quality artists are dems
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYfW62lXgAAoUS_?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/651092/2024-election-environment-favorable-gop.aspx
More Americans now identify as Republicans than as Democrats.
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Insane but unsurprising.
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That said, if you identify as republican, the Democratic Party is probably the right party for you.
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That said, if you identify as republican, the Democratic Party is probably the right party for you.
You misspelled Moron when you set up your username.
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That said, if you identify as republican, the Democratic Party is probably the right party for you.
You misspelled Moron when you set up your username.
If you think you are republican because you identify with MAGA and Project 2025 and the like, Republican Party is the place for you
If you think you are a republican because you believe in ‘conservative values’ like individual freedom, rule of law, morality . . .maybe your party isn’t what you think it is.
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I don’t know if we are running scared or we really have a problem.
Still think Shapiro should have been the VP. Still toy with thinking we should have stayed with Biden instead of panicking.
I just don’t see PA having the makeup for a Harris win. I think we have a better chance of winning NC and GA than PA.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/27/pennsylvania-harris-2024-election-00180099
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So we discount real clear politics? What concerns me is the 2024/2020 comparison. Trump appears to be running markedly better this time.
(https://i.ibb.co/wgtZLTX/IMG-4129.png) (https://ibb.co/r09KtgS)
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Interesting. But now I want to know which pizza oven is right for me.
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Interesting. But now I want to know which pizza oven is right for me.
I mean, help us help you. Are you wanting an indoor or outdoor? Wood or gas or hybrid?
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Interesting. But now I want to know which pizza oven is right for me.
I mean, help us help you. Are you wanting an indoor or outdoor? Wood or gas or hybrid?
Well that’s the thing, I’m not really sure.
I drive a stick shift, my assigned spirit animal is the giraffe, the last thing I ate was a butternut squash lentil curry, and I’ve been told I’m a hufflepuff though I feel more like a Gryffindor.
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Sounds like you might want an outdoor wood burning pizza oven! Does that sound good to you?
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I’ll take 2! I keep entering discount code JWPWarlord for the BOGO special, but it isn’t working 🙁
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Listen some of us were trying to turn this into a pizza oven recommendation thread to stop Hutch’s doomposting but if you’re going to treat this all as a big joke . . .
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Never mind. Please strike anything I wrote earlier. Went on Daily Kos for first time in months and it became clear this is in the bag. I did not realize there were tons of shy Harris voters, Swifties not getting polled and red wives who are going to vote blue and not tell their husbands.
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So, I love my Ooni 16 multi fuel. Really revolutionized my deck usage. Strongly recommend. Not as good as a true hand built wood fired oven when using wood but it will get the job done and you do have the convenience of flipping over and using gas.
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I’ve been eyeing the ooni
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Does it make vegan pizza?
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Who is going
https://jointheresistance.org/
All this whining that dc never gets the big names
Also, I always thought the Rasmussen report were crap, now we have proof
Leaked emails reveal the truth about Rasmussen Reports—and the way the Trump campaign is breaking election law.
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*taps the sign*
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrrjV-VWYAskKrt.jpg)
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Does it make vegan pizza?
I don’t see why it couldn’t?
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Who is going
https://jointheresistance.org/
All this whining that dc never gets the big names
Also, I always thought the Rasmussen report were crap, now we have proof
Leaked emails reveal the truth about Rasmussen Reports—and the way the Trump campaign is breaking election law.
When Rob Schneider is your headliner....
Skillet is such a pathetically generic "cool" name that there are two guys on the roster using it.
(Or one skillet is listed twice, but does it really matter?)
Ah, Zuby. Hip-hop's #1 right wing useful idiot.
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The Harris campaign reminds me of Clinton in 2016. They act as if they are going to win and can run out the clock. They don’t talk policy and limit media exposure. It’s weird because I think Trump is the clear front runner currently and we are only about a month out. Harris in 2024 is like Clinton in 2016: hey things are going pretty well so stick with us democrats. I don’t find this a compelling message.
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The Harris campaign reminds me of Clinton in 2016. They act as if they are going to win and can run out the clock. They don’t talk policy and limit media exposure. It’s weird because I think Trump is the clear front runner currently and we are only about a month out. Harris in 2024 is like Clinton in 2016: hey things are going pretty well so stick with us democrats. I don’t find this a compelling message.
This is 100% what I'm feeling and worried about. I don't know fully if they're running things differently and we don't see it here locally, ie. things like supposedly spending more on ground game than Clinton did, but it feels real similar with things like margin of error fluctuations in polls and seemingly not hitting them hard enough on his/their bullshit. Again, maybe we see less of that here in a trio of minimal or non-swing districts. My only personal "hopium" thought is that it shouldn't be possible, accounting for variables, to run the same inputs twice (boiled down, Trump v. woman professional politician) and end up with the same outcome. By variables meaning that Harris is less "disliked" than Trump. He is no longer an unknown (for some voters that might be a net negative against Harris, so who knows), age gap sentiment. There should be some lessons learned from 2016. All that said, who knows.
I'm surrounded by folks for whom a second Trump term could spell personal negative impacts for (mainly on immigration front), but even they are cavalier about how he's clearly a successful businessman (I mean a good conman, is technically a good businessman) and that Harris is a number of insulting things (a fool, a whore, a liar, an antisemite). The fact that those folks are that forthright in their opinion has me absolutely worried for what this country will look like going forward. At best a dystopia of end-stage capitalism, at worst. . . Idiocracy meets The Purge. Maybe I need to stop drinking at work.
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It’s weird because I think Trump is the clear front runner currently
genuinely curious, what do you see that i don't? in my view, neither is a clear front-runner. trump was in the lead following the RNC, the switch to Kamala swung momentum back to the dems, and now it's an unclear toss-up... entirely IMO.
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not hitting them hard enough on his/their bullshit.
the whole pronouns thing isn't a winning issue for the Dems. drop it already.
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It’s weird because I think Trump is the clear front runner currently
genuinely curious, what do you see that i don't? in my view, neither is a clear front-runner. trump was in the lead following the RNC, the switch to Kamala swung momentum back to the dems, and now it's an unclear toss-up... entirely IMO.
I feel like the change might have added more noise, than signal to the signal. Obvs. that Joe was way unpopular, but the exuberance might have masked the insidious stickiness of the Trump grift and show. Whenever I heard people digging into the numbers, he's built on his minority numbers, his youth vote numbers and really kind of everything, except for college educated (mainly) whites (as noted per the writing). I mean it was neck and neck in 2016 as well. I've been looking for comparisons between this time in 2016 and now and I haven't had luck in finding solid side-by-sides, mainly just think pieces about how the Harris campaign has supposedly learned from Clinton's mistakes.
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I think likability may be a factor. For all her accomplishments, Hillary Clinton wasn't particularly likable. Even worse, she campaigned as if she was entitled to the office. Kamala Harris seems much more likable, and since she was very suddenly thrust into the position of the Democratic Party candidate, she hasn't had time to develop an "I deserve this" attitude.
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If you compare poll numbers at this point four years ago Trump is up 4 in swing states and 5 nationally. Likewise up vs 2016.
That, just for starters
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Polls don’t matter much five months out but one month out??
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It’s also a gut instinct thing…I just feel that fundamentally a majority of Americans like Trump. It took Covid - more than anything- to defeat him.
I have never seen as many Trump signs as current in Arlington which votes 80-20 D.
Also look at Trump’s numbers with Latinos. They like him! I mean he is up to over 40% of Latinos.
And then you got the D debacle of ditching Joe and replacing him with Harris with no primaries no challenge and she picks Walz. She is going to lose Pennsylvania. I can feel it.
Of course I hope I am wrong. Wouldn’t be the millionth time. I am wrong regularly.
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Also, I was wrong about inflation impacting midterms. I just think it took a little while for people to absorb the permanence of this effect. I mean I don’t know but aren’t you guys feeling the impact? I feel like things are tighter for my family.
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And immigration..how hard is it for D to pretend to care??? Just announce some big plan about getting serious EVEN if it’s BS. I mean don’t just ignore the fact people feel D are soft on it!!!
Are we even trying to win??
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I feel like things are tighter
Listen, Relaxer is never coming back and we just all have to make peace with that.
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😂
Bottom line we are all going to die.
I am depressed 😔
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I am depressed 😔
We meet on Thursdays. I’ll send you the zoom link.
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So I guess this new Jack Smith reveal will have zero impact on any one leaning trump
this is some bizzaro world shit too
Liz Cheney will campaign today with Vice President Harris in Ripon, Wisconsin — the city recognized as the birthplace of the Republican Party.
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Can't believe people thing there's no difference between the two parties!
this is some bizzaro world shit too
Liz Cheney will campaign today with Vice President Harris in Ripon, Wisconsin — the city recognized as the birthplace of the Republican Party.
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ROFL
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY63QQSbAAIWNRw?format=jpg&name=medium)
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whoa...judge did not hold back in her sentencing
Former Colorado county clerk Tina Peters sentenced to 9 years for voting data scheme
https://x.com/jayacoop/status/1841926356105351393
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Strikes over. Biden played this so, so, so masterfully.
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i know never read the comments... but today i learned the tinhat wearing blue check brigade are saying the weather is in fact controlled because (check notes) the existence of patents for devices that controlled the weather...
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i know never read the comments... but today i learned the tinhat wearing blue check brigade are saying the weather is in fact controlled because (check notes) the existence of patents for devices that controlled the weather...
Oof yeah, sorry about that. I lost the remote.
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i know never read the comments... but today i learned the tinhat wearing blue check brigade are saying the weather is in fact controlled because (check notes) the existence of patents for devices that controlled the weather...
seriously guys, stop talking about the Jewish space lasers, even in jest, this is not cool
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The bit on Harris is spot on. It’s political malpractice to be trying to run out the clock in a close election. What the hell is Harris doing? Do they know something we don’t?
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Still 28 days and it’s close -plenty of time to adjust-but Trump/Vance pretty much dominate every media cycle. Walz and Harris appear to be in a witness protection program
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/06/politics/breakthrough-polling-project-harris-lie/index.html
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What are you talking about, the callherdaddy Podcast is the Walter kröhnkite of our generation
I didn’t see trump on that
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Yeah never mind
https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/do-the-math-trump-is-toast
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He was one of the few that predicted 2016 early on
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Yessir
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so, I've not listened to it yet, but people are gushing over this
@AmeshiaCross
I just listened to the full @callherdaddy podcast feat. @KamalaHarris and man oh man, mainstream media/corporate media could learn a lot from how this interview was conducted. It was singularly the best and most informative interview of this election cycle thus far.
wow, this I didn't expect
The podcast was formerly owned and distributed by Barstool Sports until June 2021,
and Spotify paid $60million for her show ?!?!
crazy that there is that much money in these podcasts?
edit...and there is more
In August 2024, Cooper signed a $125 million deal with Sirius XM ??!!!!
In 2020, Call Her Daddy was the fifth most popular podcast on Spotify. In 2021 and 2022, Call Her Daddy was ranked as the second most popular podcast on Spotify, finishing behind The Joe Rogan Experience in both years
Jez, not that that kind of show is something I'd listen to, but amazing how big it is and is still 'off the radar' for most people
Walter Cronkite never got paid that much
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wow, this I didn't expect
The podcast was formerly owned and distributed by Barstool Sports until June 2021,
and Spotify paid $60million for her show ?!?!
crazy that there is that much money in these podcasts?
Whenever I hear about podcast deals, I'm gobsmacked. If you follow sports, this is quite galling. Sites like The Ringer (Bill Simmons' sports site) sold for a kabillion dollars and its all for maximizing how many podcasts they have.
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Content is king I guess
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That Moore article. Weird. He says it’s in the bag then lists all these reasons why D could lose.
Maybe he is trying to motívate people.
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Now this is a platform I think we can all get behind: https://nypost.com/2024/10/07/us-news/elon-musk-suggests-hell-be-thrown-in-prison-if-harris-beats-trump-if-he-loses-im-fed/
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Now this is a platform I think we can all get behind: https://nypost.com/2024/10/07/us-news/elon-musk-suggests-hell-be-thrown-in-prison-if-harris-beats-trump-if-he-loses-im-fed/
Is being a complete douche really a crime though?
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Now this is a platform I think we can all get behind: https://nypost.com/2024/10/07/us-news/elon-musk-suggests-hell-be-thrown-in-prison-if-harris-beats-trump-if-he-loses-im-fed/
Is being a complete douche really a crime though?
you forgot to add "asking for a friend" ;)
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Well, he is a billionaire, which is automatically an executable crime. So being thrown in jail would be a kindness IMO
Now this is a platform I think we can all get behind: https://nypost.com/2024/10/07/us-news/elon-musk-suggests-hell-be-thrown-in-prison-if-harris-beats-trump-if-he-loses-im-fed/
Is being a complete douche really a crime though?
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Litchman is predicting a D win
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4920904-allan-lichtman-kamala-harris-october-surprise-2024/?tbref=hp
Yeah never mind
https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/do-the-math-trump-is-toast
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Lichtman’s system of keys is kind of idiotic. Glad it keeps him busy for a couple of months every four years.
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Lichtman’s system of keys is kind of idiotic. Glad it keeps him busy for a couple of months every four years.
while I don't disagree, he does have a better track record than almost anyone out there
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Lichtman’s system of keys is kind of idiotic. Glad it keeps him busy for a couple of months every four years.
while I don't disagree, he does have a better track record than almost anyone out there
I think he doesn't "apply the keys" consistently at all and he's just picking who he thinks will win (with a better track record than most, admittedly).
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Doesn't he "turn the keys"?
I think he doesn't "apply the keys" consistently at all and he's just picking who he thinks will win (with a better track record than most, admittedly).
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I mean it’s opinion on many of the keys. On what planet does Trump not have “charisma “, for example???
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Not that it will make much of a difference but "October Surprise" for Hogan just dropped.
New: Nearly 40% of all affordable housing awards Larry Hogan approved as governor went to listed clients of his real estate firm, from which he did not divest. Hogan is the first governor in MD history to have made millions of dollars while in office.
https://time.com/7081664/exclusive-as-governor-larry-hogan-approved-millions-in-awards-to-his-firms-clients/
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Hogan was always going to lose I guess
Funny how he is one of the “good republicans “
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Not that it will make much of a difference but "October Surprise" for Hogan just dropped.
New: Nearly 40% of all affordable housing awards Larry Hogan approved as governor went to listed clients of his real estate firm, from which he did not divest. Hogan is the first governor in MD history to have made millions of dollars while in office.
https://time.com/7081664/exclusive-as-governor-larry-hogan-approved-millions-in-awards-to-his-firms-clients/
debate fodder for tonight?
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I guess it’s on the bag for democrats…why bother campaigning
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-outpaces-harris-walz-campaign-events-run-final/story?id=113932634
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isn't it "in the bag"?
so you complained that Harris wasn't doing enough press/events Then she did 14 and you are not happy because she's not doing as many as trump
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Yeah that’s right…compared to Trump/Vance the D’s are hardly working. Why are they waiting to get Obama out there? It’s GO time. We have ten days to turn this around or we are toast.
We have run a terribly conservative campaign. Having a beer on tv is great but why isn’t she doing campaign events every day? Why not do press conferences regularly? Why not announce plans to tackle concerns. Why can’t she say she would do anything different from Biden?
It’s amateur hour.
I am not saying anything James Carbille isn’t
Trump is opening up a lead on Harris.
The surprising thing is former Obama campaign people are in Harris camp. By this point in the campaign Obama would have gone hoarse from so many events.
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People just don’t like to hear it but Trump pretty much has this in the bag and democrats are just sitting around saying don’t believe the polls.
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What are you talking about?!?!! She's made the differences pretty clear! She'll put Republicans in
our EDIT: her cabinet and (somehow!) get more right wing at the border! It's like night and day with these two!!!
Why can’t she say she would do anything different from Biden?
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She would put ONE Republican! God what a difference
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its all about the swing states and GOTV...I don't think there is anything that can't be more important than that
MI, WI are looking better than before
PA...yikes, that's going to be our albatross and fans of Josh will be like 'I told you so'
I was thinking we might get NC after that black nazi thing, maybe Helene will have an impact?
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MI looking better??
I go by RCP not Nate Silver. Trump is up in six of seven and only trails in WI which notoriously has polls overstating D performance. Biden was leading by 7 last time and won by a whisker.
You have to learn to read polls. There has been a clear movement towards Trump in the past week.
The last two presidential election cycles have understated Trump support.
Trump is outperforming 2020 polls (at this point in campaign ) nationally by 8 points and in swing states 4.5 points.
Trump is up nearly 10 points in betting markets.
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All kidding aside, I'm with hutch on this one. After Biden died on stage, there was no coming back obviously. But man, to have that kind of enthusiasm out of the gate and then shit a lot of it away by immediately taking a hard right is so insane.
Dems took the distaste for Biden as just "he's senile and old" and not the correct view of "he's senile and old and sucks" and boy, did that excitement plummet. I mean, she couldn't even PRETEND she was going for the youth vote...it was Republican-lite the second she got the nom. And Biden isn't doing her any favors with his response to WWIII popping off.
I mean, who knows, right? It's still a bit away.
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You would think this kind of economic news would be good for Dems
https://x.com/carlquintanilla/status/1844381747599061046
I am concerned that NKOTB and hutch are agreeing
Is that one of the 4 horsemen?
Also I did look at RCP and Harris seems to be doing well
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris
But the betting odds don’t look great
https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president
I just think the gambling crowd leans maga hard… so that’s has to have an impact
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You look at today’s polls and tell me you feel good? What drug are you on?
(https://i.ibb.co/J5FCJfk/IMG-4149.png) (https://ibb.co/nz8RJHk)
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(https://i.ibb.co/qMgdB2Q/IMG-4151.png) (https://ibb.co/mCyGJPW)
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Charge your phone man
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Anyone else jonesing for some Doritos?
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Yeah that’s right…compared to Trump/Vance the D’s are hardly working.
trump is doing two rallies a week, tops, one of which is in a solidly red area (AKA won't change anything). kamala is doing more public events, and has done a TON of interviews over the past ~10 days. the only thing that the Rs are doing more than the Ds is making false and/or laughable statements (that the press repeats). Ds are putting out more, and better, tv ads.
i'm not saying the Ds have it 99-to-1, but methinks/mesees something closer to 50-50 in terms of effort and activities.
i feel like hutch is doing the political equivalent of doom-scrolling.
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Why are they waiting to get Obama out there?
they're not (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/10/us/politics/obama-harris-pittsburgh-democrats.html)
She would put ONE Republican! God what a difference
one would be infinitely more than any admin in recent memory
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I saw that earlier after my post
He should have been out there weeks ago
I stand by my post. It’s been a tepid effort by Harris and clearly Walz has been told to go into a witness protection program.
Today Trump announced making interést on car payments tax deductible….he made this announcement in Detroit
I think it will play well in Michigan.
Ok. Let’s wait and see the results come in.
Of course it’s depressing to see democrats handing over the WH. Should I be joyful about it?
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Why are they waiting to get Obama out there?
they're not (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/10/us/politics/obama-harris-pittsburgh-democrats.html)
She would put ONE Republican! God what a difference
one would be infinitely more than any admin in recent memory
So this is a good answer? You think many republicans will vote for Harris based on this? Or it will galvanize the D base?
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This seems like it would play poorly in Detroit
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/10/politics/trump-detroit?dicbo=v2-PZClWWK&iid=ob_mobile_article_footer_expansion
I will circle back here in a week and hopefully things will have improved for democrats
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The Harris team has definitely decided that the Vinyl Vote is the vote to get
and look Doug is out there hitting the shops with mr stipe in Georgia
https://www.instagram.com/p/DA_CQLNx6n1
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Is this country really just that nihilistic? I used to make a joke that Trump could rape their mother and his supporters would blame their mom. He can really, reeeeeeaaaaaally, just say anything, anywhere and the flipside response is, "oh well, we still don't know enough about here and I don't know if she 'looks presidential'". It's passe at this point, but there's so many elements, besides just Terry Crews' character, that reflect harshly and presciently on where we are and where we seem to be going as a society. I mean, we put so much stock in seemingly dumb, venal and self-centered billionaires, we essentially are all just looking for ways to capitalize on our own stock in ways that don't produce anything beyond content or consumption of product. I mean maybe Trump is right, this country is lousy. Lousy with selfish, greedy and self-entitled people who are driven entirely by gut level (being nice) motivations. A bunch of little Neros, willing and believing that they'll be the last one to stand atop the ashes, as long as they get what they "deserve" in the here and now.
Sorry, just found out the owner of the company that I work for is voting Trump and Hogan and my office manager/his power of attorney made it a point to let me know. Sure, it's Maryland, but I mean their personalities write large and the latest polls have me [messed] up.
I mean folks didn't learn from 2016 that even just the Courts are reason enough keep him out of office, but the regulation roll backs and migrant policy and just the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-----king rhetoric. Damn man.
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what he said
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evilizac nailed it
Oh hutch, apparently the Dems heard ya
Fetterman, Corey booker and a few others are hitting the road and stumping for Dems!
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Trump to do Joe Rogan just announced
I think harris should too, would be funny if she just showed up the day of his taping and asked if she could join in
his head would explode
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I go by RCP not Nate Silver.
here's an interesting take on why RCP might not be as rock-solid as some think (https://x.com/AgentSelf99B/status/1844485630195270062) (please ignore the sky-is-falling text, and just watch the video)
who knows if this guy is right, but IMO it adds more fuel to the "polls can't be trusted" fire - so an average of polls is equally, if not more, suspect.
suggestion: stop doom-scrolling polls
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I will be back in a week now stop drawing me out.
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/10/11/kamala_harris_proposes_bipartisan_council_of_advisors_to_preserve_the_two-party_system.html
She would put ONE Republican! God what a difference
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Starting to think she is an idiot.
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I go by RCP not Nate Silver.
here's an interesting take on why RCP might not be as rock-solid as some think (https://x.com/AgentSelf99B/status/1844485630195270062) (please ignore the sky-is-falling text, and just watch the video)
who knows if this guy is right, but IMO it adds more fuel to the "polls can't be trusted" fire - so an average of polls is equally, if not more, suspect.
suggestion: stop doom-scrolling polls
another take: Republican Pollsters Are Flooding the 2024 Election Averages (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBrfyjrg3kI&t=0s)
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welp at least he is getting a lot of bad press about his mental state, seemed that was only fodder for the dem candidate
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZ54G_iX0AA7ax3?format=jpg&name=small)
Worst Coachella performance ever
although the nyt made is seem like it was all according to plan
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oh and the GQP retorhic created another comet ping pong incident, thankfully no one was harmed
Man with assault rifle arrested after reports ‘armed militia’ were hunting hurricane relief workers (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hurricane-relief-north-carolina-militia-threats-b2628968.html)
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I think they lost the drudge report a while back, but this is still surprising (click image for link)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZ9HPUvacAAtXWy?format=jpg&name=large) (https://mattlabash.substack.com/p/american-psycho)
And the hard truth is this:
Donald Trump is a no-joke authoritarian psycho.
Sorry, but that doesn’t make me a liberal, which I’m not. Or a neocon, which I’m not. Or a tool of the Deep State, which I’m not. It just makes me a clear-eyed acknowledger of objective reality. I understand reality’s not for everyone.
Slack Tide by Matt Labash
Koz...he name drops Karl Wallinger and gives him a whole paragraph
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Trump to do Joe Rogan just announced
I think harris should too, would be funny if she just showed up the day of his taping and asked if she could join in
his head would explode
finally the Harris campaign team is listening to me
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kamala-harris-could-join-podcaster-joe-rogan-an-interview-sources-2024-10-15/
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I'm old enough to remember when going on Rogan was so taboo you needed to publicly apologize for it
finally the Harris campaign team is listening to me
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kamala-harris-could-join-podcaster-joe-rogan-an-interview-sources-2024-10-15/
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Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggghhh
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When I wrote I check out RCP I just meant I look at their numbers. Am not saying they don’t include shaky polls but you can still read trends and also I like their presentation of numbers comparing to 2020 and 2016. I also think the fact 66% of Americans think the country is on the wrong track is an issue, the fact she was anointed without going through a primary, picking Walz, and just not being a good fit for PA, MI and WI all have to be taken into account . I think Nate Silver’s site is really weak in comparison to RCP. He just feeds info into a model and comes out with “if we ran the model 1000 times Kamala would win 558 but they are essentially tied”… I like looking at the numbers for myself. And a week to ten days ago I began to notice Trump’s numbers moving in the right direction (this trend has intensified ). Then I filter what I see through what I think is happening. This is very subjective of course. Then I look at the campaigns and what I think candidates are doing and if it’s what I think they should be doing. At the end of the day it’s all subjective other than the fact Trump has been doing better since the debate. That in it of itself doesn’t mean he will win. But when I look at the trends, my instincts and what the campaigns are doing(the Harris approach is a replay of Hillary: Trump is a wacko) and their messaging.
We are three weeks out. I think barring some crazy surprise in 5 days this election is over. It may already be over. I don’t believe in these mythical undecideds or that Harris can win over dudes that listen to Rogan. All she should be doing/should have been doing is energizing her base to get out and go to the trouble of voting for her. Giving people reasons to vote FOR her and not just AGAINST him.
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The D campaign has just been one error after another. Biden should never have agreed to debate. And if he agreed to debate it should have been way later in the calendar. After the debate democrats should have stuck with Joe instead of making him step down. Then D went with Harris (another mistake). Then Harris picked Walz (another mistake). Then Harris said she would not have done anything differently from Joe (another mistake).
It really has been a debacle and once again democrats are poised to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory just like 2000 and 2016.
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After the debate democrats should have stuck with Joe instead of making him step down.
dude put down the crack pipe
joe had ZERO chance of winning after that debate, and you know it. i get that you believe that trump will win, and it's not a crazy position to take, but let's not change history to fit a current narrative
once again democrats are poised to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory just like 2000 and 2016.
ancient history. most relevant example is the most recent... remind me how that went?
i look forward to posting a compendium of your doom-and-gloom posts once harris is prez-elect
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After the debate democrats should have stuck with Joe instead of making him step down.
dude put down the crack pipe
joe had ZERO chance of winning after that debate, and you know it. i get that you believe that trump will win, and it's not a crazy position to take, but let's not change history to fit a current narrative
once again democrats are poised to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory just like 2000 and 2016.
ancient history. most relevant example is the most recent... remind me how that went?
i look forward to posting a compendium of your doom-and-gloom posts once harris is prez-elect
I stand by my comment regarding dumping Biden. His numbers cratered AFTER democrats called for him to step down particularly Obama.
2020 is an outlier because of COVID and had it not been for the pandemic Trump would have been re-elected.
I really hope to read that compendium.
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But that's not true. Biden did close the gap a bit here and there, but from basically mid-September through the debate he was down in polling averages. Hell, his final polling before dropping out wasn't even the worst margin he had against Trump. And his final collapse started days before the debate.
I stand by my comment regarding dumping Biden. His numbers cratered AFTER democrats called for him to step down particularly Obama.
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Of course he was down but so what? He had plenty of time to come back and he was only down cause WE democrats abandoned him. We would have come back to him. The campaign still had to be run!!! It was very early!!
Anyways is that how we run things? If a guy is down in the polls we replace him with someone nobody actually voted on?? That’s fucked up and extremely un democratic. I would have taken my chances with Scranton Joe in PA over Harris any day.
One can’t say because he was down in the polls with US democrats that we couldn’t have come back to him faced with a Trump presidency.
And as far as I remember the polls it was when Obama said he should not be the candidate..well not even said actually just in a cowardly matter told people who then reported it…it was only then that his support bottomed..that was the kiss of death cause his unwavering base - black voters- then abandoned him
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Local GA judge blocked the MAGA Election board rule that ballots had to be hand counted and another GA court declared ""no election superintendent (or member of a board of elections and registration) may refuse to certify or abstain from certifying election results under any circumstance."
not a good day for GA election deniers and hopefully less ratfuckery down there...
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It’s amazing that after 2000 we couldn’t get a nationwide set of agreed upon election standards and regulations. Remember the butterfly ballot?
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I mean you don’t see republicans abandon Trump cause he is old and makes crazy statements and dances with himself at a rally for 30 minutes!!!
But we had to go and ditch the horse that got us to the White House. Every day for weeks the headlines were “Schiff (Pelosi’s boy!) says Biden should not run for reelection “ and “Obama has privately told democrats that Biden should not run…” The only smart democrats were the Clinton’s that kept their big mouths shut.
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Anyways I have better and more pleasant things to do with my time than post about this…like jamming an ice pick in my eye- repeatedly.
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It’s amazing that after 2000 we couldn’t get a nationwide set of agreed upon election standards and regulations. Remember the butterfly ballot?
Seems easy to do but only POTUS is elected nationally so it's very much a state/municipal issue.
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It’s amazing that after 2000 we couldn’t get a nationwide set of agreed upon election standards and regulations. Remember the butterfly ballot?
Seems easy to do but only POTUS is elected nationally so it's very much a state/municipal issue.
Don’t tell me it’s too hard. The republicans were more than happy to steal the election with the connivance of the Supreme Court (elections are a state and local issue unless you want to recount your votes…THEN the national government can tell you NO!) and do nothing.
By the time democrats had taken power in 2008 it was yesterday’s papers.
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It’s amazing that after 2000 we couldn’t get a nationwide set of agreed upon election standards and regulations. Remember the butterfly ballot?
that's because the states run General Elections, not the feds
I do think the supreme court can weigh in on issues at the state level, but it doesn't start with the Suprem Court...that's where it ends
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I mean I do think at this point, to hell with shooting someone (any crooked lawyer can make a defense), but he could drop trow, squat down and take a big steaming McDump on stage in front of them and his believers would lap it up and call it soft serve. The interviews that I heard with attendees of "the love fest" in PA couldn't have been less phased, "it was the perfect soundtrack for the moment". Plus, the media is painting it as he was chilling while DJ-ing, but they should really be emphasizing 40-damn minutes. Imagine just the visual. Old man, stands around in bronzer and swaying, asking for the same song to be played back-to-back. I'd be questioning my sanity.
I'll say this re: Biden though, it wasn't just the standing there at the debate, it's the shuffle walk and that he does look frail. I stood up for him with friends and family for a long time, but again, visuals. Plus, you hear him from 2016, and he really did sound a lot more like the Obama era Biden. The Ds always had a tougher hill to climb, and I don't know how they would have made that climb with Biden. Hubris, but the people who play this game and both get paid to and spend their lives running these numbers should have started being real and pushing for him to step aside sooner. That said, I'm not sure when.
Fuck.
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It’s amazing that after 2000 we couldn’t get a nationwide set of agreed upon election standards and regulations. Remember the butterfly ballot?
that's because the states run General Elections, not the feds
I do think the supreme court can weigh in on issues at the state level, but it doesn't start with the Suprem Court...that's where it ends
Excuses..the federal government has a lot of power to do shit…like via the elastic clause…or how did we move the drinking age from 18 to 21 NATIONALLY
Bunch of defeatists here….waaaah waaah the government is powerless…
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I agree . Biden should not have ran for reelection. The pressure should have come in 2023. But it’s hard to pressure the fucking president coming off a good midterms.
So instead they waited until they saw the opening after the debate and THEN pulled the rug from under him (none of them had the balls to leak shit about Biden being Gaga until after the debate! Profiles in courage!) said fuck democracy we are going to shove Kamala down your throat 90 days before the election and we don’t care what you think you will like it and vote for it.
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It’s amazing that after 2000 we couldn’t get a nationwide set of agreed upon election standards and regulations. Remember the butterfly ballot?
that's because the states run General Elections, not the feds
I do think the supreme court can weigh in on issues at the state level, but it doesn't start with the Suprem Court...that's where it ends
Excuses..the federal government has a lot of power to do shit…like via the elastic clause…or how did we move the drinking age from 18 to 21 NATIONALLY
Bunch of defeatists here….waaaah waaah the government is powerless…
Drinking age was super easy since it was tied to federal highway funds, i.e. no 21+ no spanking new interstate spur.
What legal device should the fed use or invent to federalize aspects of election law? Pretend you're a senator or congressperson and write a bill for consideration.
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It’s amazing that after 2000 we couldn’t get a nationwide set of agreed upon election standards and regulations. Remember the butterfly ballot?
that's because the states run General Elections, not the feds
I do think the supreme court can weigh in on issues at the state level, but it doesn't start with the Suprem Court...that's where it ends
Excuses..the federal government has a lot of power to do shit…like via the elastic clause…or how did we move the drinking age from 18 to 21 NATIONALLY
Bunch of defeatists here….waaaah waaah the government is powerless…
Drinking age was super easy since it was tied to federal highway funds, i.e. no 21+ no spanking new interstate spur.
What legal device should the fed use or invent to federalize aspects of election law? Pretend you're a senator or congressperson and write a bill for consideration.
I mean just run back the Dole model? Acknowledge/pretend marijuana has valid medicinal benefits and tie federal Medicaid/care dollars to its legalization?
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It was rhetorical. Well aware how we got to 21. Why can’t they do something like that over voting.
The answer is cause neither party wants to.
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MM not to excited about her prospects in MI right now...thinks the arab population is key to winning there
https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/my-plea-to-kamala
this is a depressing feature on RCP
This Day In History: October 17, 2020: Biden +9.0 | October 17, 2016: Clinton +7.0
(Kamala is at +1.5 today)
yikes, looks like hispanics are leaving the dems in droves...not good news
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaGi2rMb0AMKkVF?format=jpg&name=large)
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Stop it dude or you will qualify for a post election Sweetcell Report!
In the last two days polls seem wacky. One pollster will have Harris down 6 in GA but up 3 in NC! Marist has Harris up 5 nationally. Let’s hope for the best
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The bigger and amorphous question is, what the hell is this country at this point. I consider myself pro capitalism but believe strongly in regulations. That's an aside to say that in country full of billionaires, it seems like they are just a reflection of who we are increasingly becoming as a whole, in that so many people seem more than willing to step on, throw out, or deny to others whatever than can, if it means one more thing for themselves. Really, how much does any one person need to live even a great, or amazing life. At what point are our American billionaires on par with people like the house of Saud or Putin... Diddy's a billionaire, right?
Sure, people are hurting here and a lot of us are struggling to some degree (either to afford good health and health care, a future for ourselves and/or our family or just to get by) but that means we're willing to bare-facedly be so cruel. Yes, we have had slavery and Jim Crow laws and American Nazis and the KKK, but there are less and less people whole heartedly disavowing those elements of their coalition, if it means that they personally might get something, even if that something is a feeling of vindication. I have always believed, at different times and in different ways, that this country, even with the fucked up things that we've done on whole, was aiming towards a brighter ideology. Now I think that we could replace the American flag with an image of a gold plated boot stepping on baby to grab a dollar. Fuck everyone else, I gotta look out for me.
Random aside, subconsciously my brain kept capitalizing "billionaire". Why, like it's a bestowed title?
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I think that we could replace the American flag with an image of a gold plated boot stepping on baby to grab a dollar. Fuck everyone else, I gotta look out for me.
I do think the GQP was test marketing this design, but some people wanted the boot to be a Trump Sneaker and some felt, the baby should be an immigrant and a smaller, but vocal group said it should be Dogecoin the baby was reaching for
But I do think they were unanimous in their support for the motto
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Ha ha
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Evilzac nails how I been feeling…
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A notable fact is Harris seems to be performing worse than the D senate candidate in a particular state be it an incumbent like Casey or a new candidate like Slotkin. If the polls are anything to go by….
Now possible explanations could be she is not a popular candidate and/or Trump IS a popular candidate. Am not sure how we win the election if 3-5 out of 100 voters go for the democrat candidate for Senate while voting Trump or even abstaining. In Michigan one would be tempted to say it must be the Palestine supporters unhappy over the Biden policy but Slotkin is Jewish.
But looking at the democrat senate candidates Harris seems to be underperforming them everywhere it matters (ie. MI, WI, PA, AZ, NV).
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If Trump wins, how many months before he is replaced by Vance?
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If Trump wins, how many months before he is replaced by Vance?
Why do people always say these things? The first time he won people said he didn’t want to be president and would resign.
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Nice to hear from you Space!
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Trump wants to be president more than anything. Why would he be replaced?
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Alternate take
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/kamala-harris-to-lose-heres-why
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Trump wants to be president more than anything. Why would he be replaced?
Fellow Republicans will 25th Amendment him. Vance is a true believer who will more effectively carry out Project 2025.
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Trump wants to be president more than anything. Why would he be replaced?
Fellow Republicans will 25th Amendment him. Vance is a true believer who will more effectively carry out Project 2025.
Bullshit. Trump owns the party lock stock and barrel and if he wins fuggedaboutit!
Dude you are a bit of a weird conspiracy theorist aren’t you?
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It is amazing how democrats underestimate Trump! It’s positively pathological. The greatest politician of our lifetime but we just can’t accept it!
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They're shrinking the orange juice container size AGAIN, and still charging the same price.
This isn't going to go over well at all with the votery, especially those making 50K a year.
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Lots of stories about the dearth of good polling. Lots of republican polls out there.
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Whenever anyone asks Trump about climate change, he always goes off on clean air and clean water, which has nothing to do with climate change. He diverts to some specious claims about his strong environmental policy (which I think have been debunked). Why does nobody call him out on this and double down on the climate change question?
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Would it really matter? Does anything that resembles sanity really matter with that POS?
Whenever anyone asks Trump about climate change, he always goes off on clean air and clean water, which has nothing to do with climate change. He diverts to some specious claims about his strong environmental policy (which I think have been debunked). Why does nobody call him out on this and double down on the climate change question?
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Would it really matter?
It would not, in fact they like it more that it might cause liberal tears
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Whenever anyone asks Trump about climate change, he always goes off on clean air and clean water, which has nothing to do with climate change.
he also tends to bring up windmills
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@mattyglesais
What if the October Surprise is sober, factual coverage of the Trump policy agenda?
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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/22/kamala-harris-reassure-voters-liberal-00184879
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/22/harris-working-class-voters-poll-election
What I been saying for months. Give people something to vote for.
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^ouch
Why voters aren’t responding to messages like these is anyone’s guess, though the fable of the boy who cried wolf comes to mind. Trump was already president. And while Democrats warned about the danger he posed to democracy, we did actually have an election to get rid of him. Remember, the moral of the fable isn’t that, in the end, there wasn’t a wolf. It’s that no one believed the boy.
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I'm sure it's not helping to talk breathlessly about what a threat Republicans are to democracy and then to welcome a guy that actually did steal an election into your camp with open arms.
At the end of the day, I don't think this should be a surprise:
^ouch
Why voters aren’t responding to messages like these is anyone’s guess.
January 6 doesn't impact most people's daily life or their material conditions. A vague thread of "end of democracy" is an intangible when you're struggling to put food on the table or have insurmountable medical debt.
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America's in its vote for the axe era.
Got people who may or may not have family, friends, loved ones who came here under murky legal circumstances.
Some maybe still with statuses up in the air. Those people "just can't see" voting for Harris. "I mean, have you seen the cost of x" or "look at all the crime on this crime tracker app". "I like money". The fuck.
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Hope the raging Cajun is right
https://dnyuz.com/2024/10/23/james-carville-three-reasons-im-certain-kamala-harris-will-win/
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaijToVbEAEnMsd?format=jpg&name=small) (https://x.com/JakeMGrumbach/status/1848907228230914351)
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The nazi comparisons are execrable.
Calling him a wanna be dictator seems more appropriate. If you want to call him a fascist ok but nazi? They gassed millions upon millions of people. Let’s not minimize that by comparing them to Trump!
I mean maybe these ridiculous comparisons are why so many Americans might believe Hitler wasn’t all that bad…
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If the Nazis had been stopped before they committed genocide, they still would have been among the worst people of the 20th Century. Emulating Nazis before the Holocaust is still acting like Nazis.
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If the Nazis had been stopped before they committed genocide, they still would have been among the worst people of the 20th Century. Emulating Nazis before the Holocaust is still acting like Nazis.
Among the worst people?
Sorry to break it to you but there is a lot of competition for worst people of the 20th century!
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Yeah, id argue that if someone is espousing Nazi ideology, regardless of whether they've carried it out, or whether they have the means to carry it out, they're a nazi. Which is basically the Republican Party platform for my entire life.
If the Nazis had been stopped before they committed genocide, they still would have been among the worst people of the 20th Century. Emulating Nazis before the Holocaust is still acting like Nazis.
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Wow…ok…I wasn’t a Reagan or Bush Sr. fan to say the least but to call them Nazis is out there…
It reminds me of the media commentators on a debate saying they both lied when one told 1 lie and the other 100. It’s a very counterproductive way of looking at things. Very childish very black and white.
But you do you
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Wow…ok…I wasn’t a Reagan or Bush Sr. fan to say the least but to call them Nazis is out there…
It reminds me of the media commentators on a debate saying they both lied when one told 1 lie and the other 100. It’s a very counterproductive way of looking at things. Very childish very black and white.
But you do you
I agree with this 100%. Being unable to understand nuance or degree is not a virtue. The Bernie Scum wing of the party make this mistake every five minutes. Infuriating.
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Sorry guys. Next time I'll get try to the nuance of the AIDS epidemic or the War in Iraq.
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Sorry guys. Next time I'll get try to the nuance of the AIDS epidemic or the War in Iraq.
Funnily enough the guy who started the war in Iraq did the most when it came to fighting the AIDS epidemic in Africa.
And neither “nuance” makes them Nazis anyway.
Resorting to using the word Nazi for “bad guy” or “President I didn’t like” seems pretty lazy. Childish as mentioned before.
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No, you're the childish one
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🙄
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Beyoncé will appear at VP Kamala Harris’ rally in Houston tomorrow night!
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Beyoncé will appear at VP Kamala Harris’ rally in Houston tomorrow night!
Do you think that will sway enough undecided voters in Texas to swing Texas her way? Or in PA?
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Well blow us all then, they are just playing 2016 part 2.
Jay Z, Beyonce headline concert for Clinton - Updated 5:26 PM EDT, Sat November 5, 2016
https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/04/politics/hillary-clinton-jay-z-beyonce-big-sean-chance-the-rapper/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/04/politics/hillary-clinton-jay-z-beyonce-big-sean-chance-the-rapper/index.html)
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These events obviously don’t guarantee anything but if they help increase turnout amongst certain sectors of the D base AND garner hapless Harris a positive headline then it’s worthwhile. I don’t believe anyone thinks the Democrats can win Texas.
It should go without saying that nobody is waiting on a musician’s endorsement to decide their own vote.
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hutch has made his prediction: this election is trump's to lose. kamala is running behind and isn't doing enough to catch up.
here's mine*: it won't be close. it'll take a few days to confirm but we will elect our first female president, comfortably. bonus: she will get more electoral college votes than biden's 306.
and yes, i expect hutch to quote this post should i be wrong.
*assumption: we continue on the same general course we're on now, no "october surprise", no bombshell revelations, etc.
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hutch has made his prediction: this election is trump's to lose. kamala is running behind and isn't doing enough to catch up.
here's mine*: it won't be close. it'll take a few days to confirm but we will elect our first female president, comfortably. bonus: she will get more electoral college votes than biden's 306.
and yes, i expect hutch to quote this post should i be wrong.
*assumption: we continue on the same general course we're on now, no "october surprise", no bombshell revelations, etc.
Hope you are right!
I really haven’t yet made my predictions….
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(https://i.ibb.co/CmPXKFp/IMG-4308.png) (https://ibb.co/QpDqvG7)
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(https://y.yarn.co/25eec92f-07f0-4dbf-b4d6-0165042d8ed1_text.gif)
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Proud boys petting my dog
(The horror!)
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/10/25/dc-residents-leaving-election-week-00185313
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the leading dumpster fire of bad takes is cranking some doozies at the moment... the Oasis podcast claiming that Oasis is currently the biggest rock band in the world and that any new album would go straight to number one in the UK and US, me thinks they have been sniffing to much glue... (i did not weigh in on this as the answer is clearly Metallica)
but a truly dimwitted one was this one
"Most people have no clue what Hitler actually said, he didn't speak English, yet they all seem to be experts.
How would they know if Trump said any even vaguely close, because he didn't."
as if there was no way to translate German into dumbass
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I should cancel my Post subscription, right?
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I gave up on them during Iraq war.
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I should cancel my Post subscription, right?
It’s just so bullshit to announce this ten days before election. It would be a bit different if they had announced their new policy of not endorsing for president six months ago. And regardless they could have endorsed given democracy is on the ballot. Since Hitler comparisons are in, this would be like not endorsing after the Nazis burned down the Reichstag.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/25/jeff-bezos-killed-washington-post-endorsement-of-kamala-harris-.html
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Now THAT is fascism.
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for the person who thought it was a good idea to set fire inside a mailbox and destroyed mail-in ballots, they are going to soon find out that the Postal Service detectives do not mess around.. the dumbass did it at Post Office and the mailbox was under video surveillance, of course when caught they'll be treated as true patriot
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Everybody can relax the incredibly racist thing said today was merely a joke.
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Which one?
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I was thinking about the one from the “comedian” and in glorious case of schadenfreude, we now have Florida man who was caught swindling Medicare now trying to walk back that bombed joke realizing it might effect his own reelection chances
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was going to put this in the band name thread, The Burning Ballot Boxes, but this is no laughing matter...
Two more acts of arson involving ballot boxes one in Portland and across the river in Vancouver, Washington which is contentious swing district. Not one to point fingers, but pretty sure it wasn't ANTIFA
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Harris up 2 in VA according to Rasmussen! We got this!!!!
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I think Trump is betting a majority of Americans voting are straight out racists or really burned up by DEI, Black Lives Matter etc.
We will find out in 8 days.
Can’t believe this is where we are but then again America has a very checkered history with race.
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This is AMAZING what a talented family and spot on lyrics
"Bohemian Trumpsody" - Marsh Family adaptation of "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen about Donald J. Trump
https://youtu.be/YY_8WzcHqMQ
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This one is giving me life
"Gimme Hope Kamala" - Marsh Family adaptation of Eddy Grant "Gimme Hope Jo'Anna" for Trump vs Harris
https://youtu.be/se-didBGn8A
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I really don’t know who is going to win anymore as I have lost all confidence in the polls.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/28/trump-vs-harris-polls/75880591007/
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Anyone actually get into the rally last night? People were in line all day long to get in.. My better half got in line at 4pm and ended up in one of the overflow areas... 75K strong a very bigly number, more in fact then a certain someone's inauguration :D
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Awesome. Hopefully we will win DC.
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Awesome. Hopefully we will win DC.
I ROFLed.
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What is the blue tick outage machine all fired up today about? that women might secretly vote for someone else then who their worthless husbands voted for
and seriously how are people not taking this whole we are going to tank the economy and thus letting the billionaires become oligarchs..
add in repealing the ACA
i feel another evilzac missive coming..
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At this point I just want this garbage election to end.
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Beginning to see lots of wacko Trump trucks with flags etc in dc area…
Kind of like before January 6
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Seems like it might come down to PA. Maybe Hutch was right and she should have picked Shapiro. But would that have cost her Michigan?
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Walz is awesome on the stump…but he really hasn’t broken through
There are so many fake polls out there let’s just see what happens
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Ok.
Walz is awesome on the stump…but he really hasn’t broken through
There are so many fake polls out there let’s just see what happens
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But I do hope the government is prepared for Trump mob action from election night on
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But I do hope the government is prepared for Trump mob action from election night on
i'm sure they are, and this time they don't have trump at the helm telling law enforcement to stand down. i suspect that police/national guard/etc will have little tolerance for election-related violent this time around.
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You are so optimistic! And I so pessimistic.
Never underestimate government incompetence.
I certainly did NOT see armored vehicles parked around the national mall day before yesterday AS WAS THE CASE AFTER January 6.
I did see fencing around the ellipse for Harris’ speech. Not sure if it’s been kept up.
I haven’t heard anything about upcoming road closures near White House.
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We three all carved pumpkins. I made mine a Trumpkin. Within a few days, mine turned moldy and the other two are fine. Sounds about right.
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I am starting to think of what I will do if Trump wins….its a possibility
I don’t think Harris did any of the stuff I thought she should do when I could see the sky beginning to fall. There really was no reaction. No change. No adjustment.
Now hopefully it all works out and she wins. I can’t trust polling anymore. Too many shyster polls so that gives me hope….
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I mean you got trafalgar, fabrizxio, Rasmussen and more…. These fake pollsters are a disgrace
I know Sweetcell wrote about this phenomenon needing to be taken into account when looking at real clear politics and he was right
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I mean you got trafalgar, fabrizxio, Rasmussen and more…. These fake pollsters are a disgrace
I know Sweetcell wrote about this phenomenon needing to be taken into account when looking at real clear politics and he was right
True but it's still going to be close and MAGA has a whole dirty play book ready to use
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I mean you got trafalgar, fabrizxio, Rasmussen and more…. These fake pollsters are a disgrace
I know Sweetcell wrote about this phenomenon needing to be taken into account when looking at real clear politics and he was right
True but it's still going to be close and MAGA has a whole dirty play book ready to use
We really have no idea if it will be close! We really don’t know. When it comes to predictions we can all guess but that’s about it.
I don’t even know that the campaigns know yet and believe me Harris has probably spent hundreds of millions on polling to have some clue of what is happening.
At this point it’s all pretty much baked in. It’s done. It’s over.
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Yeah, I mean it really is, or maybe isn't, 50/50. I mean in therapy today (shocker, right?) it dawned on me that even in my family; four siblings, two voted Harris two Trump (well, one Trump and one doesn't care to vote, but is pro Trump). He really is bringing disparate people together. Of my two brothers, one brother is a total redneck; blonde and blue eyes, moved to WV, sends his kids to "Christian School", calls my sister's husband his N-word brother for a laugh. The other brother is full blown native Hawaiian; moved back home when he got the chance because people were confusing him as Latino, mad at the haoles, mad at the Asians, mad at the other pacific islanders taking over the islands, just mad. They both hate each other but love them some Trump. They're both concerned about getting one dollar more. They both think that Kamala is a "crazy bitch". They both represent the stupidity and selfishness that I'm worried that the country is trending towards.
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and MAGA has a whole dirty play book ready to use
this is the part that scares me. i think kamala has the votes to win, the obstacle will be the court cases and all the other pseudo-legal shenanigans that MAGA will attempt. i got chills when both trump and johnson confirmed that they have a "secret plan" which will be revealed after the election. if johnson is still speaker on Jan 6, i.e. GOP keeps control of the House, things are going to get really wild.
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Trump is coming to Salem, Virginia!!! Who came up with this, NKOTB??
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Trump is coming to Salem, Virginia!!! Who came up with this, NKOTB??
he has cancelled events in PA in favor of newly-announced events in VA, NM and some other state i can't recall at the moment... pundits on the street (and by street i mean twitter) posit it's because internal polling shows that trump has lost PA, in part due to the puerto rican vote. TBD, but dropping rallies in a key swing state is an interesting move.
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That would be awesome!
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Dropping rallies in PA is a big deal
So I thought VA was in the bag, but there are a lot of trumpets in VA
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Trump is coming to Salem, Virginia!!! Who came up with this, NKOTB??
he has cancelled events in PA in favor of newly-announced events in VA, NM and some other state i can't recall at the moment... pundits on the street (and by street i mean twitter) posit it's because internal polling shows that trump has lost PA, in part due to the puerto rican vote. TBD, but dropping rallies in a key swing state is an interesting move.
What if their internals say they've won PA and now they're going for the longer shots?
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Let us be happy for these last 5 days!!
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Marist is a respected polling outfit
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-suffers-triple-polling-blow-in-battleground-states-he-must-win/ar-AA1tks0A?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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Let us be happy for these last 5 days!!
Because after Tuesday the stress levels go up, no matter who wins?
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Let us be happy for these last 5 days!!
Because after Tuesday the stress levels go up, no matter who wins?
Let me be happy for these last 5 days!!
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So who are we sending to the Trump rally tomorrow?
I nominate NKOTB
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Its over 3.5 hours away! I barely even want to drive to Springfield. No thanks!
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Is it weird that the end of Hutch's endless doomposting ranks in my top 3 reasons why I will be delighted to have this election in our collective rearview mirror?
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I am positively upbeat lately!! What are you talking about
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Its over 3.5 hours away! I barely even want to drive to Springfield. No thanks!
Well well well…
You are letting down the board. It’s not just about your convenience!
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I am positively upbeat lately!! What are you talking about
Buddy, you've seemed like you're in an election depression cycle for months.
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Oh ok
Well I don’t want to be argumentative…..
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Anyone else get one of those creepy AF this is how you and your redacted neighbors recently voted letters in the mail this week?
Well at least in Maryland the AG, etc took notice
State orders halt to mailings that left voters ‘intimidated, shocked and ill-at-ease’
https://marylandmatters.org/2024/10/31/state-orders-halt-to-mailings-that-left-voters-intimidated-shocked-and-ill-at-ease/
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Trump is coming to Salem, Virginia!!! Who came up with this, NKOTB??
he has cancelled events in PA in favor of newly-announced events in VA, NM and some other state i can't recall at the moment... pundits on the street (and by street i mean twitter) posit it's because internal polling shows that trump has lost PA, in part due to the puerto rican vote. TBD, but dropping rallies in a key swing state is an interesting move.
What if their internals say they've won PA and now they're going for the longer shots?
Trump lagging in early vote with seniors in Pennsylvania, a red flag for GOP (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/31/trump-lagging-early-votes-seniors-pennsylvania-00186612)
Donald Trump is lagging Kamala Harris in Pennsylvania early voting with a critical and once-reliably Republican constituency: seniors.
It’s a warning sign for the former president that reflects early vote data and polling across the battlegrounds, after Republicans won the senior vote in each of the last five presidential elections.
In Pennsylvania, where voters over the age of 65 have cast nearly half of the early ballots, registered Democrats account for about 58 percent of votes cast by seniors, compared to 35 percent for Republicans. That’s despite both parties having roughly equal numbers of registered voters aged 65 and older.
and based on anecdotal evidence, there are more Rs voting D than there are Ds voting R, further reinforcing the D's advantage.
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Where are we celebrating Tuesday? I might stay home with my family.
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I have a tentative practice with new bandmates and unless "something wild" happens in the city, my wife is working late.
Should I cancel practice? I mean besides for the reason that bands are passe.
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Well I don’t want to be argumentative…..
fake news!
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I entered the I want to believe we will win transfer portal a few days ago….
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I entered the I want to believe we will win transfer portal a few days ago….
Good for you and your mental health, man. I have been very "who knows and anyone who says they know who will win is talking out of their ass" for months but I'm oddly confident over the last week.
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I felt much better after I early voted. I know that makes zero difference to the result, but it did make me feel better.
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Wow TfG and Johnson want to repeal the CHIPS act. Way to solidify that NoVa vote and stop the creation of manufacturing jobs in the US.
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Weirdly today is the best day of polling for democrats that I can recall in many weeks…
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Guys, got good news...Harris has locked down the critical Del Ray vote in Alexandria.
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Guys, got good news...Harris has locked down the critical Del Ray vote in Alexandria.
I LOLed.
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Another thing that causes me to be upbeat is i have heard Philly finally updated its voting infrastructure.
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From a very reliable pollster
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/11/02/iowa-poll-kamala-harris-leads-donald-trump-2024-presidential-race/75354033007/
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Women are such gossips, constantly talking to one another ;D
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I feel like Iowa is possible. Before the Trump years, the Dems had won Iowa six out of seven and Kerry lost that seventh one by less than a point.
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It’s possible - now that we have Ann Selzer’s poll- but would be a big surprise. Swing states change and Iowa today isn’t the same state it was when Tom Harkin was senator.
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Goodness....SNL did a funny skit about how no one knew who Tim Kaine was, and actually had tim on SNL
Now elmo thinks this is election interference even though 5 of the 7 polls have him winning by double digits
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GbjIXXIWwAAM_xb?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Chism...even sounds fake
He is really pushing the election interference to the limit, I hope that he gets fined for some of these things
we need to make an example of people using money to sway elections
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@katieshowland
Friendly reminder that from now until Wednesday, we are living in the metaphorical equivalent of an airport lounge. Calories don't count. Money doesn't matter. No one will judge you for having a beer at 10am.
This made me chuckle too
@jake_hansen_
Prepping for tomorrow
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Fuck Around And Find Out
https://x.com/LeaundraRoss/status/1853492420492619791
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Any predictions or are we all too worried to even do that?
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my prediction is doomscrolling and more ratfuckery from the law and order party...
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Any predictions or are we all too worried to even do that?
Do you think there are Trump voters who are as worried and nervous as we are?
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My wife's aunt is really stressed out that she's going to be forced to learn Chinese and Arabic if Kamala wins, which is almost a direct quote
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My wife's aunt is really stressed out that she's going to be forced to learn Chinese and Arabic if Kamala wins, which is almost a direct quote
I sent my brother (who lives near my mom) the Jimmy Kimmel video that Jimmy made that we should all send to our Republican friends. I told him he should send it to our mom. Jimmy explicitly says "If your friend believes the Dems control the weather, don't bother. Those people are too far gone."
My brother informed me that my mom does believe the Dems control the weather and that my mom had mailed in her Trump voted weeks ago. At least with a Trump win we can look forward to the weather being great again.
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I don’t knowingly have republican friends.
I suspect my sister and her husband are both voting Trump (in Pennsylvania no less!).
I suspect a friend in NC is voting Trump.
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If you know anyone voting for Trump, send them a YouTube link to the “Red, White and Blue” movie short.
For that matter, you should watch it too.
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That would actually be awesome to learn a new language.
My wife's aunt is really stressed out that she's going to be forced to learn Chinese and Arabic if Kamala wins, which is almost a direct quote
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Final Crystal Ball
https://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/our-final-2024-ratings/
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Any predictions or are we all too worried to even do that?
i said what i said:
here's my prediction: it won't be close. it'll take a few days to confirm but we will elect our first female president, comfortably. bonus: she will get more electoral college votes than biden's 306.
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Yes I remember….that would be great
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One positive is momentum would seem to be with Harris. Her last ten days have been better than his…
I am hopeful but more nervous than I expected….
Is Sherrod Brown going down? It looks like 52-48 senate is coming…
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DOBBS EFFECT, kids.
I believe.
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Rogan endorses Trump
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Any predictions or are we all too worried to even do that?
I'm cautiously optimistic but think harris takes WI, MI and PA and takes the W
but DJT will drag it out as long as he can, but don't think he will be able to pull it off
Chaz seems to think harris is going to kick butt with 308 in the EC
https://projects.cnalysis.com/
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Nuttycombe really needs to sell shirts. The ultimate “if you know, you know” reference politically.
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Rogan endorses Trump
Jay @GodsSonAtEarth (https://x.com/GodsSonAtEarth/status/1853627774080070046)
MAGA: “Who cares that a millionaire celebrity endorsed Kamala?”
Also MAGA: “JOE ROGAN ENDORSES TRUMP! THIS IS HUGE!”
(and as someone else pointed out, he waited until 13 hours before polls open, with the most fanboy fawning over musk, and oh-yeah-i-guess-i-endorse-him endorsement, ever. so weak... why bother? i seriously think he harmed himself more than he helped trump)
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Voted. In at 10:10 out 10:17. Gotta love it.
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Yeah, I'm the same. I don't think i've ever been in an actual line at my polling place
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In and out of Greenbelt in 15 minutes mid-morning. Brain-wormed yahoo illegally shouting "Trump" a few times, something I had never seen before in over 40 years of voting. He got to the ballot scanning machine and found out he didn't make his marks correctly. Dumbfuck.
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Yeah, I'm the same. I don't think i've ever been in an actual line at my polling place
Me either. But I also have never went first thing in the morning nor after 5pm.
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Yeah, I'm the same. I don't think i've ever been in an actual line at my polling place
Me either. But I also have never went first thing in the morning nor after 5pm.
I've waited in DC a couple of times, maybe 45 minutes. Enough that I've wondered if it was worth it given how little there is to actually vote for that is live.
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Working the polls in Arlington
1/3 of precient voted early
Another 1/3 voted before noon
No lines, but lots of spoiled ballots due to the ranked choice voting
Also a longer ballot then normal
So longer turn for some
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A poll worker was explaining ranked choice to everyone.
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I really can’t make a prediction based on facts.
Three weeks ago I would have said Trump wins but then came many unforced errors like talking about turning the troops on opponents, MSG, and ramped up crazee. He had been running a tight professional campaign but it kind of fell apart before the finish line.
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Yeah, I'm the same. I don't think i've ever been in an actual line at my polling place
Me either. But I also have never went first thing in the morning nor after 5pm.
I've waited in DC a couple of times, maybe 45 minutes. Enough that I've wondered if it was worth it given how little there is to actually vote for that is live.
I waited about 45 minutes to vote for Kerry and then Obama….that first Obama win was fire. The Kerry loss was tough to swallow….late afternoon we had heard he had won based on exit polls..went by DNC headquarters on Capitol Hill and it was a celebratory environment..then went to Hilton on 16th for the party and everyone was celebrating…it was already like 11 and tv had cnn and all the focus was on Ohio and I will never forget the prince of darkness shaking his head,smiling and saying “…it’s coming back to Bush.” I knew it was over but people were not paying attention and continuing to celebrate. Coming on the heels of the stolen election of 2000…brutal.
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There has to be a better way to have elections
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-county-extends-voting-hours-after-software-issue-scanning-ballots
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Now this is something I can get behind... In Detroit they lined up 300 DJs to show up and spin at polling places
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Now this is something I can get behind... In Detroit they lined up 300 DJs to show up and spin at polling places
NJFishHead715
6 minutes ago
I just got home from voting.
I voted for my great-granddaughter’s rights.
I voted for her right to free speech.
I voted for her right to practice her religion.
I voted for her right to peacefully assemble and protest a tyrannical government, regardless of her political leanings.
I voted for her right to bodily autonomy without interference from experimental drug companies mandated by her government.
I voted for her to exist as a woman, in women’s sports, to have a women’s bathroom, and have a women’s only dorm room.
I voted for her right to bear arms.
I voted for her right to a secure border and safe streets.
I voted for her innocence.
I voted to protect her from gender confusion and chemical castration as a minor.
I voted for Trump.
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Don’t depress us!!
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What’s missing from that rant is
I voted so that the stock market crashes disseminating my 401k, which force me to work longer and thus spending less time with my granddaughter
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Cannot speak for anyone else and who am I to tell anyone else how to live but I’m seeing Anora at 6:15 and Conclave at 8:50. Should end around 11 with only two minutes between. I’m putting my phone in Driving focus so it sends an auto reply message to anyone who texts me telling them what I’m doing and I’ll get with them tomorrow.
I would suggest people do their own version of this. Protect your mental health. You can doomscroll tomorrow. The world will not end regardless of who wins.
Everyone take care of yourself tonite and in the days to come, OK?
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I totally would do that if I could but my oldest kid is obsessed with watching the results come in….
That’s sort of what I did last time….i recommend it!
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Cannot speak for anyone else and who am I to tell anyone else how to live but I’m seeing Anora at 6:15 and Conclave at 8:50. Should end around 11 with only two minutes between. I’m putting my phone in Driving focus so it sends an auto reply message to anyone who texts me telling them what I’m doing and I’ll get with them tomorrow.
I would suggest people do their own version of this. Protect your mental health. You can doomscroll tomorrow. The world will not end regardless of who wins.
Everyone take care of yourself tonite and in the days to come, OK?
I like this. And yet, somehow, I think I'm going to walk up to Howard University and bask in the hope.
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A poll worker was explaining ranked choice to everyone.
we did that twice to every voter and we still had about 10% of voters needing a new ballot because they incorrectly filled out rcv
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Not looking good is it?
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Not looking good is it?
It always starts out this way….
I hope that’s the explanation
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I mean this is about the time I first tuned in 2020 and thought Trump had been reelected…
Having said that I am not seeing signs of all these women voting against Trump cause of Dobbs….but it’s so early…
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I project Harris wins Virginia!!!!
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I project Harris wins Virginia!!!!
it’s been called
Hogan looks to have lost
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I project Harris wins Virginia!!!!
Let it be said. Let it be so.
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Looks like we need PA+MI+WI
NYT needle is at 79% Trump
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Addendum: am about to cry
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Omg, Harris takes DC, that was a nail biter
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About to transfer to the WTF is wrong with this country portal
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NYT needle at 88% Trump win
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Dont be a scab, man
NYT needle at 88% Trump win
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Brown just got crushed by a card dealer In Ohio
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Hey, guys, anyone know of any theatres in Richmond that might have a random midnight movie showing on a Tuesday night/Wednesday morning?
Aski . . . ng for a . . . friend??!?
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Harris takes our beloved Arlington 77-21!!!
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Harris takes our beloved Arlington 77-21!!!
You house ONLY HAD A SWUARGW. FOOTABEG OF ..
*program shuts down*
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We took Hawaii!
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I think we are going to hang on in Minnesota the future VP’s state!!!
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Oh no
Decision Desk HQ projects that former President Donald Trump (R) has won enough electoral votes to win the Presidency.
#DecisionMade: 1:21am ET
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You know where you can shove your keys Lichtman, right?
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making the rounds on twatter:
2020
Biden: 81 million votes
Trump: 74 million votes
2024
Trump: 71 million votes
Harris: 66 million votes
i can see 3M fewer GOPs/MAGAs showing up (4% drop in attendance). energy on the right was on the downswing at the end of the campaign... but 15M fewer Dems voted??? almost 20% fewer than for Biden?
i'm already seeing the post-mortems - she should have talked about the economy more, she should have held more rallies, she should have visited Wisconsin, etc etc etc... but nothing and no one will be able to convince me that misogyny didn't play a decisive role in Kamala's defeat. too many americans - including american women - don't think that a woman should, or ever can, be president. SAD.
edit: there are still millions of ballots in CA to be counted, so the Dems' numbers will improve. TBD how much closer we get to the 2020 numbers, and if it squares with the "record turnout" claims made yesterday. regardless, i stand by my misogyny claim.
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technical question, since pondering such issues distracts me from wallowing in the contempt i have for the american voting public...
how did we get results so quickly this time around? yes, 2020 was under the pandemic so there were additional complexities around the count... but we didn't get a final result until saturday. it took 4 days and i don't believe that covid can explain that. how did we get 2024 done in hours and not days??
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Some states changed laws allowing early votes or mail in to start being counted before Election Day (Florida has always been great at this), but also it just isn’t that close. Votes will continue to get counted in states “called” but the margins are bigger than 2020 so calls came earlier.
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Typical. They are all stupid haters! All racists.
Could it be -gasp- the American people like Trump? Could it be that he talked about issues they care about like the economy and immigration while democrats talked about “joy” and pretty much completely ignored policy instead focusing on how Trump was a threat to democracy? Could it be that many Americans aren’t buying the democratic fear mongering!?
I mean at some point people on our side need to smarten up cause posting pictures on facebook of the Statue of Liberty crying isn’t going to get it done. I didn’t hear democrats address inflation one time! Could they at least have said “yeah it sucks!” They just ignored it.
And are democrats ever going to acknowledge that putting Harris in place of Biden wasn’t, you know, very “democratic “!?!
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Democrats see poor white people who live paycheck to paycheck and instead of talking about what they’re going to do to help them, they lecture them about their immense privilege. Which can be, at the same time, both true and also wildly, wildly stupid to say to the largest voting block in the country.
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Democrats are poor white people who live paycheck to paycheck and instead of talking about what they’re going to do to help them, they lecture them about their immense privilege. Which can be, at the same time, both true and also wildly, wildly stupid to say to the largest voting block in the country.
Sounds like the case for a Bernie style populist!
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Again, HRC won the popular vote by like 3 million votes! People will vote for women!
but nothing and no one will be able to convince me that misogyny didn't play a decisive role in Kamala's defeat. too many americans - including american women - don't think that a woman should, or ever can, be president. SAD.
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The Electoral College is the source of so many voting issues now, as pointed out last night by Laurence O'Donnell there are millions of voters in NY and CA that don't vote there because the results in those states are foregone conclusions.
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Geezus the excuses.
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The Electoral College is the source of so many voting issues now, as pointed out last night by Laurence O'Donnell there are millions of voters in NY and CA that don't vote there because the results in those states are foregone conclusions.
Wouldn't that apply to both Dems and Reps in those two states?
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The Electoral College is the source of so many voting issues now, as pointed out last night by Laurence O'Donnell there are millions of voters in NY and CA that don't vote there because the results in those states are foregone conclusions.
Wouldn't that apply to both Dems and Reps in those two states?
would equally apply to deep red states as well... why would someone in wyoming or alabama bother voting?
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Under the rules of the game we lost fair and square.
It’s obviously very raw right now. It sucks. We just got to keep putting one foot in front of the other and better days will come.
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making the rounds on twatter:
2020
Biden: 81 million votes
Trump: 74 million votes
2024
Trump: 71 million votes
Harris: 66 million votes
wow
If true is jaw dropping
It “felt” like the Dems were going to turn out
That is a crazy reduction after all that has transpired in the last 4 years
I’m despondent over this more than anything
I doubt the voter apathy on Democratic side was due to Kamala being installed . I really don’t think that had much of an impact
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Democrats gave people nothing to vote for…just something to vote against.
And votes are being counted.
And trust me: Biden would not have ran on “joy”
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miracles do happen!
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Democrats gave people nothing to vote for…just something to vote against.
this i whole heartedly agree with
I also think this take is correct
@vlasicdaniel
The Republicans basically owning cable news, Tik Tok, Youtube, podcasts, Twitter, etc... cancelled out any traditional advantages that the Dems had.
I always felt the GOP was low tech and way behind the curve on these kinda things
But they really garnered at ton of support via these new platforms
One block from the Wh today
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for fans of Jonathan Pie, and hutch: watch this (https://x.com/JonathanPieNews/status/1854194551625282017)
(in case you're unfamiliar with JP: his shtick is that he's a TV reporter who goes on rants between being on air, and the off-air diatribes are just top shelf...)
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for fans of Jonathan Pie, and hutch: watch this (https://x.com/JonathanPieNews/status/1854194551625282017)
(in case you're unfamiliar with JP: his shtick is that he's a TV reporter who goes on rants between being on air, and the off-air diatribes are just top shelf...)
'Once again by simply relying on the votes of city dwelling, latte swilling liberal women does not win elections"
he is not wrong
Edit...he should have said Oat-Milk latte swilling...but that didn't sound as good
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That’s not fair
What about the suburban latte swillers?
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S.E. Cupps take (https://tribunecontentagency.com/article/s-e-cupp-trump-election-victory-shows-how-harris-and-the-democrats-failed-to-reach-voters-on-pocketbook-issues/) take is pretty accurate IMO
And they told me over and over again, they were worried about three things: the economy, crime, and immigration.
To be clear, they weren’t worried about China, fluoride, tampons in men’s rooms, migrants eating their pets, or any of the other garbage that Trump and his surrogates were pushing to inflame his rabid base.
To those concerns, Democrats told them the economy was great — “strong as hell,” in fact — and they’re just not feeling it yet because of “lagging indicators.” No one trying to buy a house or a car or groceries is consoled by lagging indicators.
They were told crime is down, no matter how unsafe they felt. And when the FBI quietly revised its numbers in September to reflect a rise in violent crime, no one corrected the record.
They were told the migrant crisis wasn’t real — that the problems associated with an unmitigated flow of non-citizens into their towns and cities were anecdotal and incidental.
These weren’t people going to Trump rallies or watching the Nelk boys. They were normal Americans, with real problems. And Trump, for all of his ugliness, was acknowledging them.
Lumping these voters — the majority I believe — in with Tony Hinchcliffe, QAnon, Proud Boys, insurrectionists, and the rest of Trump’s ugly cohort may be convenient, and it may feel good. But it isn’t true, and it’s partly why Democrats lost. Ignoring what voters are telling you isn’t a winning strategy.
I really hope the final tally isn't 66Million, that is soo depressing
I thought for sure there was a decent chance Trump could take the EC, but crushing in the Popular Vote...I didn't see that coming at all
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Dead on. Would just add they weren’t worried about Trump being Hitler.
Of course anybody that tried to challenge the campaign was told they were wrong, “Joy” and please donate money.
Just a horrible campaign. To my mind worse than any since Gore 2000. They learned nothing from 2016 and just replicated all the mistakes on a bigger scale.
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Of course the biggest mistake was saying she wouldn’t do anything different from Biden.
If any one moment cost her the election that was it.
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this is depressing AF
If 1.1% of voters (175,000) across the 3 blue wall states had chosen Harris over Trump, she would be President.
I get that Trump won but this isn’t a “blowout” or a “landslide” and it’s certainly not a mandate.
1.1% across 3 states is all it was.
https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1854291921864110393
fuck the electoral college
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Sure, but in this case, wouldn't the electoral college be good? Because she would've won the election but lost the popular vote
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this is depressing AF
If 1.1% of voters (175,000) across the 3 blue wall states had chosen Harris over Trump, she would be President.
I get that Trump won but this isn’t a “blowout” or a “landslide” and it’s certainly not a mandate.
1.1% across 3 states is all it was.
https://x.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1854291921864110393
fuck the electoral college
all this is meaningless...those were the rules, so you play by them, don't complain when you don't win and don't like the rules
biden only won by 30k based on this
Sure, but in this case, wouldn't the electoral college be good? Because she would've won the election but lost the popular vote
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Dems didn't turn out the votes where it mattered and that is the issue
Would have been even worse if she won the EC and trump won the popular...can you imaginge the pearl clutching that would have happened
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I stand by my statement Fuck the electoral college
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I stand by my statement Fuck the electoral college
definitely favors GOP currently, I'll give you that
but those are the rules, so play by them, learn how to take advantage of certain inequities and plan accordingly
It not going to change any time soon if ever, so screaming into the void is pointless
oh onion, I do love you so
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sweets any updates on Ukraine?
Trump promised to end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours of being elected.
is the caveat that we have to wait until Jan 21?
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and very clearly the DEMS failed at getting the vote out from those currently residing in cemeteries
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312-226 combined with taking control of senate and retaining the house is a shellacking and a mandate.
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This is exactly what their bullshit mandate will get them....
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https://x.com/JoshEakle/status/1854550692267991357
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Seeing a lot of the above type “you are too stupid to know what you voted for” posts….
It’s so condescending, stupid and counterproductive. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if it’s fake.
I am not a fan of tariffs but nothing concrete has been done.
To me Trump was brilliant to talk up tariffs because it was a way of saying to people “I will do something to help you keep your job.” I think this played well in PA. It’s just politics something Harris seemed to have no clue about. During the election you promise people a bunch of stuff you think they want to try and get their vote.
Now what he does or doesn’t do is another story yet to be written.
Can’t we wait til he takes power to start criticizing what he does?
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So will be dead first, Trump or Loz Cheney?
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There is photo of Pat Tillman on espn.com and I recall Jon Krakauer’s great book and how Tillman very enthusiastically volunteered for war with the best intentions but the actual experience was not at all what he expected
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To me Trump was brilliant to talk up tariffs because it was a way of saying to people “I will do something to help you keep your job.” I think this played well in PA. It’s just politics something Harris seemed to have no clue about. During the election you promise people a bunch of stuff you think they want to try and get their vote.
addressing the voting public's economic concerns is great politicking. but doing it via straight-up lies and taking advantage of their lack of knowledge? there has to be another way.
should kamala have said "when i become president, i will order the Treasury to print more money and every american will receive $10,000 in cash, thus ensuring our economic recovery"? would have been popular, and horrible policy. at what point does it become an insult to the public's intelligence?
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Apparently Casey went down in PA.
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The world’s 10 richest people got a record $64 billion richer from Trump’s reelection (https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/07/investing/billionaires-net-worth-trump-win/index.html)
yet another win for the working class!
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Susan Wiles to become first female Chief of Staff.
Stefanik as UN Ambassador?
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can I tell you how much it ginds my gears that dem twitter sounds just like maga with the "where did 15 million votes go"
dude they didn't go anywhere, other than sitting on the couch
dems didn't turn out, it's not a conspiracy
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To me Trump was brilliant to talk up tariffs because it was a way of saying to people “I will do something to help you keep your job.” I think this played well in PA. It’s just politics something Harris seemed to have no clue about. During the election you promise people a bunch of stuff you think they want to try and get their vote.
addressing the voting public's economic concerns is great politicking. but doing it via straight-up lies and taking advantage of their lack of knowledge? there has to be another way.
should kamala have said "when i become president, i will order the Treasury to print more money and every american will receive $10,000 in cash, thus ensuring our economic recovery"? would have been popular, and horrible policy. at what point does it become an insult to the public's intelligence?
I don't actually think the policies matter. Harris came up with policies for black men and hispanic (admittedly late in the game). It's more about how you talk about them, and sounding like you authentically understand their issues and concerns. And of course giving people someone to blame for it. Trump gave us immigrants, trans-people and Joe Biden. We didn't really have anyone to blame.
Also, it seems obvious to me that a lot of people have covid restrictions remorse. They would rather have a few less relatives than pay so much for eggs.
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sweets any updates on Ukraine?
Trump promised to end the war in Ukraine within 24 hours of being elected.
is the caveat that we have to wait until Jan 21?
WARNING: long, meandering reply below.
trump isn't allowed negotiating with foreign governments until the afternoon of Jan 20 (Logan Act) so yeah we'll have to wait. he could release his plan before then (along with his healthcare plan, his infrastructure plan, etc..).
mood in Ukraine, based on what i'm seeing, is a mix of resignation and resolve. they survived the first 6-8 months of the conflict against a fresh and fully armed russian army with minimal help so continuing the fight against a depleted russia isn't something they're going to back away from, even without US support - it'll just be harder and more painful.
other rando thoughts/observations:
- trump hasn't released *any* details of his peace plan. the best guess is he will use military aid for UA and sanctions relief for RU as carrots and sticks to force a deal which would include UA ceding occupied territories. but lots of other speculation out there, like trump could continue arms deliveries in exchange for access to UA's natural resources, specifically mining.
- European leaders need to figure out the path forward, since this is a european conflict. they no longer have the luxury of dithering given how uncertain future US support is. doing nothing and letting UA fall isn't an option for the EU. worryingly it will take years to fully ramp up EU arms production. in the short-term they might need to buy supplies from the US, South Korea, etc
- Politico is reporting that Biden is trying to rush remaining aid (https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/06/biden-trump-ukraine-assistance-00187897) to UA as quickly as possible, the assumption being that anything that isn't delivered by Jan 20 will be stopped. currently, perception of the biden admin is mixed at best: lots has been promised but actual deliveries are lagging, and his emphasis on escalation management (AKA don't do anything that even has a chance of pissing off the ruzzians) gives the impression that he doesn't actually want UA to win the war, so he delivers just enough to keep them in the fight. the ban on using western weapons on ruzzian territory is hugely unpopular (some hope that with the election over, he'll lift this prohibition - tbd). so maybe a shakeup in Washington is needed to move the needle...
- some Ukrainians are maintaining cautious optimism: trump is fickle and can't be predicted. so far Zelensky has sent a congratulatory message to him, while putin is refusing to since ruzzia still considers the US to be a hostile nation. maybe putin is just keeping up appearances and they're chatting behind the scenes, or maybe Zelensky can get trump on his side by stroking his ego and telling him he could be a hero by saving UA... who knows.
- there are modestic forced that could push trump in UA's corner or at least prevent a full abandonment. a good number of GOP senators are strongly pro-Ukraine so they'll be pushing him. if trump abandons UA and it falls to ruzzia, that would make trump look bad - he promised a deal & peace, so having ruzzia win on his watch isn't a look he wants.
- finally, Ukrainians and their supporters are rightfully more fearful of vance than they are of trump, as he is vehemently anti-Ukraine and is seen as much less flexible on the issue than trump.
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There’s a lot to unpack and a lot of different factors that explain Trump’s win.
I think the first one and most important is that a majority of Americans like Trump. I know survey after survey says they have an unfavorable opinion of him but I don’t buy it. Fundamentally they like him and admire him. Maybe many have an unfavorable opinion but they just can’t help liking him deep down. Maybe many just don’t want to admit it to themselves. They see themselves in him. They may not think he is a role model and that he is flawed and a bit of a clown but they look at themselves in the mirror and see the same thing. In a way the line from the movie Nixon still applies but sort of in reverse : “They look at you (JFK) and see who they want to be. They look at me (Nixon) and see who they really are.” If it hadn’t been for Covid he would have easily been reelected in 2020.
I think a second factor that touches on the first is Americans have just gotten more selfish and meaner. Just the day to day I observe is so different from 25 years ago. Why has this happened? Part of it has to be social media and part of it is people have been struggling. It’s been tough times with small exceptions since Bill Clinton. We haven’t had a big and sustained economic boom in a quarter century. This has made things a bit more desperate with everyone in it for themselves no matter who they have to step on. It’s a law of the jungle mentality about chasing the Benjamin’s. 25 years ago people had to that point maybe had a job or two their entire lives while now many go from one job to another over and over and over again. A lot of things people used to take for granted like pensions have been whittled away. Consequently it’s a harsher landscape and everything is ok if you are trying to get yours. And that’s why Trump lying, cheating and scamming half the world doesn’t register: people look up to him for it and think I would do the same thing if I could. And that’s why inflation is such a big deal: because for a quarter century the economic landscape has been harsh for most Americans and inflation is making these same people poorer. Imagine if you are trying to save to send a kid to college and the cost of college keeps going up and now on top of that your groceries are going up. You are fucked! You can’t catch a break! Every time it looks like you are going to catch a break you get 9-11, the Great Recession, tepid growth during Obama..things begin to improve under Trump and COVID then inflation. You just can’t catch a break. So you get bitter and you begin to blame the “illegal” immigrants etc. And the government ignores you and tells you inflation has come down when what they mean is the rate of inflation has come down. You are still fucked! College costs don’t go down and your salary hikes were outstripped by inflation for a couple of years. You are behind where you used to be.
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Are you saying most women see themselves in Trump?
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Takoma torch is a somewhat meh follow, but this cracked me up
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCH9Ej8pO0T/
“In this community, we wear our existential dread as a badge of honor”
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Takoma torch is a somewhat meh follow, but this cracked me up
https://www.instagram.com/p/DCH9Ej8pO0T/
“In this community, we wear our existential dread as a badge of honor”
These people really need to try TAKOMA WELLNESS.
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i had completely forgotten how a trump victory gives some deplorables the impression that they can crawl out from the shadows and just be their worse selves out in public:
- Nick Fuentes' “Your body, my choice. Forever. (https://www.newsweek.com/nick-fuentas-abortion-social-post-2024-election-mysogyny-1982998)” has caught fire and incels are repeating it everywhere
- an automated messaging system was used to send a note (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/07/racist-plantation-text-message/76112532007/) to thousands of african americans telling them to report for cotton-picking duty
- a general rise in awful, awful people feeling free to parade racist & misogynistic sign through a college (https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/texas-state-university-president-addresses-hateful-and-disgusting-protest-on-campus), an order-of-magnitude rise in racist & misogynistic graffiti (https://www.google.com/search?q=racist+graffiti), whatever the fuck this was (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-beating-women-clinton-harris-post_n_672efe29e4b0933e82ca088f), etc.
i somehow managed to block this memory from 2016... i know it's a minority of trump voters who engage in such reprehensible behavior, but i'm not hearing a lot of push back and distancing from the right either.
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After all you know… are you surprised there no push back and distancing from the right
Was a water is wet kinda statement
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Trump wins Arizona
With that a full sweep of the 7 swing states
That is soo disappointing
Got all the swing, EC and popular
won back all of the states Biden flipped to the Dem
Yowza is that a trouncing
I really hope Kari lake looses
Lots of places are already calling it
Currently Ruben’s lead is less than 3rd party votes for the Green Party candidate…
Of course there are cries “it’s rigged “ even though Trump crushed
Jez… won FL by 2.5 million votes
Not enough felons in Florida to make up that gap
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I think Kari Lake is toast but one would have to know more about Maricopa outstanding vote…. Kudos to Rosen in Nevada.
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even if she loses...my feeling is Trump will give her some big role in the administration like Secretary of Homeland Security
also will we see all the "acting" positions again
isn't that a way to skirt congressional approval
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We need a new thread for Trump 2
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We need a new thread for Trump 2
Do we? Really?
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We need a new thread for Trump 2
Do we? Really?
Listen, unless all of posts are organized into orderly threads, the basic building blocks of our society will evaporate. Do you want to be responsible for that?
It’s like some of your cretins don’t even remember that time someone posted a NYC show in the OG Just Announced thread.
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We need a new thread for Trump 2
Do we? Really?
We need to move from this thread
Clearly Armageddon was hype
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The apocalypse did not arrive…life goes on
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The apocalypse did not arrive…life goes on
Well the Lord said none would know the day nor the hour, so take note of that.
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43,688
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The apocalypse did not arrive…life goes on
Well the Lord said none would know the day nor the hour, so take note of that.
Look! I am trying to be upbeat! No apocalypse!!!
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The precursor to apocalypse is a slope, not a cliff.
Two positives, maybe:
I will say that my little sister, who is generally checked out of the real world, was radicalized in her own way enough to write off my two Trumpster brothers, at least in the immediate term. Of course, she is married to an African American man and has two mixed race kids.
She's taking advantage of offered services for possible learning issues and can appreciate that those kinds of things could be cut.
My gen-z coworker who in the past expressed detest towards the current admin for Gaza and TikTok did vote for Harris and expressed real concern at the loss.
My hope, on both counts, is that they stay with eyes open and even with this painfully depressing outcome that the pushback can start locally. The Republicans played the Dems on that count post Obama. Hopefully there's time to really learn and apply lessons from that time period. I will say, that my fear is letting age and history get me jaded. The older that I get, four more years ahead and it feels like I might as well be dead by the time this new term is up. Hopefully little wins and slivers of silver linings can soften that jadedness. My first chore is to continue to feed the fire in people like my sister and co-worker how I can, to keep them afloat in the mission even if I feel weighed down as fuck.
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- Nick Fuentes' “Your body, my choice. Forever. (https://www.newsweek.com/nick-fuentas-abortion-social-post-2024-election-mysogyny-1982998)” has caught fire and incels are repeating it everywhere
best response: "your body, my freezer"
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After all you know… are you surprised there no push back and distancing from the right
Was a water is wet kinda statement
just further proof that this kind of hateful behavior isn't "just a few bad apples". it's accepted. so when apologists and appeasers ask me why i can't just "accept MAGA as they are" and "just get along" - this is why.
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MAGA is a stupid term. What does it even mean? We need to just call them republicans.
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Ughhh Rubio as Secretary of State? No way to sugarcoat this one…. He is horrible on foreign policy….am surprised Trump would go for him
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Surprised? Trump has named RFKJ as the lead for health policy and you think Rubio is the bad choice? JFFFFC.
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MAGA is a stupid term. What does it even mean? We need to just call them republicans.
Make America Great Again. Y'know, back when Jim Crow and pre-suffrage ruled the day. Before we noticed climate change and when Mad Men and Ward Cleaver were the norm. When hispanics knew their place and stayed in the field. Back when things were great. Lets do that again.
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Surprised? Trump has named RFKJ as the lead for health policy and you think Rubio is the bad choice? JFFFFC.
Is the RFK Jr appointment official? I was unaware
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Ughhh Rubio as Secretary of State? No way to sugarcoat this one…. He is horrible on foreign policy….am surprised Trump would go for him
Don’t think this is good for Ukraine… although Congress controls the purse
Rubio, has said in recent interviews that Ukraine needs to seek a negotiated settlement with Russia rather than focus on regaining all territory that Russia has taken in the last decade. He was also one of 15 Republican senators to vote against a $95 billion military aid package for Ukraine, passed in April.
Should Dems get a false hope they can fill his vacancy….HA
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That little sliver of hope… dashed
Republicans win House, delivering Trump a trifecta
Welp at least we didn’t get rid of the filibuster… as we may need it
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Hide your puppies
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President-elect Donald Trump has selected South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem as his next secretary of the Department of Homeland Security
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Wow the national security foreign policy team blows
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Welp at least we didn’t get rid of the filibuster… as we may need it
We should have gotten rid of it cause it’s unconstitutional and un democratic. Imagine if UK had a filibuster? It’s just asinine. Why shouldn’t a government be able to do things with a majority?
Too many people walk around not questioning the obvious.
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Welp at least we didn’t get rid of the filibuster… as we may need it
We should have gotten rid of it cause it’s unconstitutional and un democratic. Imagine if UK had a filibuster? It’s just asinine. Why shouldn’t a government be able to do things with a majority?
Too many people walk around not questioning the obvious.
I agree with you...but since it's still around
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How dare you agree with me!
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That little sliver of hope… dashed
Republicans win House, delivering Trump a trifecta
ok, this made me lol
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Ughhh Rubio as Secretary of State? No way to sugarcoat this one…. He is horrible on foreign policy….am surprised Trump would go for him
Don’t think this is good for Ukraine… although Congress controls the purse
Rubio, has said in recent interviews that Ukraine needs to seek a negotiated settlement with Russia rather than focus on regaining all territory that Russia has taken in the last decade. He was also one of 15 Republican senators to vote against a $95 billion military aid package for Ukraine, passed in April.
Should Dems get a false hope they can fill his vacancy….HA
rubio isn't great for ukraine, however: trump has picked michael waltz as his future national security advisor, and that role has greater sway. waltz has been very pro-Ukraine, has recently said that russia only responds to force so more support is needed, etc. so there is a little hope there. TBD how much leash he'll be given, but between having a supportive SoS or supportive NSA, i'll take the NSA. the SoS will be a glorified spokesperson under trump (more so than usual).
and since i'm on the topic again, addenda to my last meandering post on UA (https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=25781.msg565471#msg565471): another pressure on trump to not cut funding will come from the US arms industry. reminder: those billions aren't being sent as cash to UA, they are being spent here in the US to replace the old weapons sent to UA. arms manufacturers have ramped up production and won't be happy to see their long-term contracts cut. lobbyists will be deployed in full force.
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federal government is currently funded via a continuing resolution that expires on Dec 20.
unfounded conspiracy theory that has been keeping me up at night: under trump's instructions, house GOP deliberately doesn't pass a new budget. gov't shuts down, which suits the drain-the-swampers just fine. shutdown drags on. federal employees are furloughed. closure goes on long enough that they find work elsewhere, so can't go back to how it was. public becomes desperate for some form of government to re-open. GOP steps in to completely re-write the rules of how the gov't works as part of a new budget - a la project 2025.
elon said that cost-cutting will be painful in the short-term. above scenario happens to fit.
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MAGA is a stupid term. What does it even mean? We need to just call them republicans.
please tell me what trump and reagan have in common.
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federal government is currently funded via a continuing resolution that expires on Dec 20.
unfounded conspiracy theory that has been keeping me up at night: under trump's instructions, house GOP deliberately doesn't pass a new budget. gov't shuts down, which suits the drain-the-swampers just fine. shutdown drags on. federal employees are furloughed. closure goes on long enough that they find work elsewhere, so can't go back to how it was. public becomes desperate for some form of government to re-open. GOP steps in to completely re-write the rules of how the gov't works as part of a new budget - a la project 2025.
elon said that cost-cutting will be painful in the short-term. above scenario happens to fit.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/11/11/trump-government-shutdown-deadline/
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Ughhh Rubio as Secretary of State? No way to sugarcoat this one…. He is horrible on foreign policy….am surprised Trump would go for him
Don’t think this is good for Ukraine… although Congress controls the purse
Rubio, has said in recent interviews that Ukraine needs to seek a negotiated settlement with Russia rather than focus on regaining all territory that Russia has taken in the last decade. He was also one of 15 Republican senators to vote against a $95 billion military aid package for Ukraine, passed in April.
Should Dems get a false hope they can fill his vacancy….HA
rubio isn't great for ukraine, however: trump has picked michael waltz as his future national security advisor, and that role has greater sway. waltz has been very pro-Ukraine, has recently said that russia only responds to force so more support is needed, etc. so there is a little hope there. TBD how much leash he'll be given, but between having a supportive SoS or supportive NSA, i'll take the NSA. the SoS will be a glorified spokesperson under trump (more so than usual).
and since i'm on the topic again, addenda to my last meandering post on UA (https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=25781.msg565471#msg565471): another pressure on trump to not cut funding will come from the US arms industry. reminder: those billions aren't being sent as cash to UA, they are being spent here in the US to replace the old weapons sent to UA. arms manufacturers have ramped up production and won't be happy to see their long-term contracts cut. lobbyists will be deployed in full force.
Are you trying to make the case for not continuing to support the Ukraine?
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I’ll be happy if disgraced former general Mike Flynn is not is the cabinet… that guy is full Q and is cuckoo-for cocoa puffs
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I’ll be happy if disgraced former general Mike Flynn is not is the cabinet… that guy is full Q and is cuckoo-for cocoa puffs
so WH Communications Director then
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Kill me
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/13/trump-taps-rep-matt-gaetz-as-attorney-general.html
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Getting a slim majority in the House and then maybe immediately losing it because you put so many reps in your cabinet rocks.
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Ughhh Rubio as Secretary of State? No way to sugarcoat this one…. He is horrible on foreign policy….am surprised Trump would go for him
Don’t think this is good for Ukraine… although Congress controls the purse
Rubio, has said in recent interviews that Ukraine needs to seek a negotiated settlement with Russia rather than focus on regaining all territory that Russia has taken in the last decade. He was also one of 15 Republican senators to vote against a $95 billion military aid package for Ukraine, passed in April.
Should Dems get a false hope they can fill his vacancy….HA
rubio isn't great for ukraine, however: trump has picked michael waltz as his future national security advisor, and that role has greater sway. waltz has been very pro-Ukraine, has recently said that russia only responds to force so more support is needed, etc. so there is a little hope there. TBD how much leash he'll be given, but between having a supportive SoS or supportive NSA, i'll take the NSA. the SoS will be a glorified spokesperson under trump (more so than usual).
and since i'm on the topic again, addenda to my last meandering post on UA (https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=25781.msg565471#msg565471): another pressure on trump to not cut funding will come from the US arms industry. reminder: those billions aren't being sent as cash to UA, they are being spent here in the US to replace the old weapons sent to UA. arms manufacturers have ramped up production and won't be happy to see their long-term contracts cut. lobbyists will be deployed in full force.
Are you trying to make the case for not continuing to support the Ukraine?
either i've failed, or you've mis-read something, but you should know that my support for ukraine, and desire for all countries to support her, is iron-clad. what gave you the impression i wanted to curtail support??
again, since we back on the topic: trump's sec of def pick, Pete Hegseth, is no bueno for UA. he seems afraid of putin and "doesn't want to force putin's hand" (by providing enough support for UA to win). so, similar to biden... ugh.
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Kill me
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/13/trump-taps-rep-matt-gaetz-as-attorney-general.html
this is insanity
Is He is going to do appointments by the quantity of liberal tears shed
The issue is the shock and awe of it… so many crazy things happening at once there is no way to measure the magnitude and which one to put up a fight against
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Wow if you thought AG was a wild one… Fox newscaster is going to be secretary of defense!!!
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-defense-secretary-cabinet-fox-news-pete-hegseth-rcna179956
And that’s it, my friends. That is your nominee for secretary of defense. No experience in government outside the military. No experience running a large organization. The Defense Department has nearly three million employees. It has an annual budget of $842 billion.
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at this point, trump's cabinet picks = a masterclass in trolling. bravo, sir.
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Getting a slim majority in the House and then maybe immediately losing it because you put so many reps in your cabinet rocks.
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^ yeah, i feel like he's even trolling the GOP: "i'm going to steal reps from the House - whaccha gonna do 'bout it, huh??"
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^ yeah, i feel like he's even trolling the GOP: "i'm going to steal reps from the House - whaccha gonna do 'bout it, huh??"
Speaker of House is then dependent on him to rally votes or do things by executive order instead of actually giving Johnson any legislative power.
Hope it blows up in his face.
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I don’t get it. Wouldn’t republicans be heavily favored even guaranteed to win Gaetz’ seat?
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I don’t get it. Wouldn’t republicans be heavily favored even guaranteed to win Gaetz’ seat?
Special election would not fill the seat for over a year per Florida law. It would just sit empty.
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Oh I see…
Interesting.
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Biden saying “welcome back” to Trump at their WH meeting
I don’t know about that one
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Biden saying “welcome back” to Trump at their WH meeting
I don’t know about that one
What, from a reasonable adult perspective, was he supposed to do after talking for four years about how sacrosanct it is to respect norms and the result of elections? Pretend to shake his hand and pull it back at the last second? Plant a whoopie cushion?
People are being so weird about this.
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No. I really mean I don’t know. Not sure it’s a bad thing….on the other hand a bit cringe for me. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have said it if he wanted to….
Just a bit jarring…
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I was this close to applying...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcXRWX-XYAAm_98?format=jpg&name=900x900)
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Am in favor of cutting costs in government. How could one not be?
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No. I really mean I don’t know. Not sure it’s a bad thing….on the other hand a bit cringe for me. That doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have said it if he wanted to….
Just a bit jarring…
Fair enough. I'm (unfairly) conflating your comment with the army of leftists chuds/Azaghals who are like "he did not punch him in the face -- why would we ever trust the Democratic party again!"
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Cost cutting is fine and dandy but they won't touch defense spending and instead go after items like funding for special education, scientific research... feel sorry for anyone who uses fruit flies to do research... these idiots will soon find out that representatives don't like when funding cuts effect their district red or blue...
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feel sorry for anyone who uses fruit flies to do research...
I've always felt sorry for these people. They hang around a place with fruit flies every day. Depressing as fuck.
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Ok but once again democrats are on the wrong side of the issue. Do you think most Americans support cost cuts in government and making it smaller and more efficient?
Democrats seem to be taking the position there is no need - and certainly didn’t do much in the way of cost cutting during Biden….
And the fallback argument is “they won’t cut defense!”
In today’s world with China, Russia and plenty of bad actors am not sure cutting defense spending makes sense other than on Ukraine aid which the same democrats want to increase!!
Democrats are really struggling right now to have any coherent vision.
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Am in favor of cutting costs in government. How could one not be?=
indeed, everyone is or should be in favor of cost-cutting... but it depends on you definition of cost-cutting.
trimming the fat? great!
destroying a useful organization so that you can unilaterally impose your strict vision of how society should be organized? yeah not so much.
doing a cost-benefit analysis to determine what is and isn't needed? great!
removing anything that doesn't conform to your conspiracy theories or false sense of victimization? again, not so much.
etc.
it seriously worries me that elmo may be in charge of "government efficiency". he made twitter "more efficient" and it's been a disaster. a common approach to software development is "innovate fast, break things, learn from the mistakes." (this is what he was referring to when he said that it will be rough in the short-term, i.e. until they figure out what does and doesn't work). if the only impact of this approach is the inability to like a tweet, who cares. but people are going to suffer if the headlong pursuit of "efficiency" results in VA health benefits being delayed, or food stamps not being distributed, or drugs being incorrectly approved, meat not being inspected, student loan applications not being approved, etc. if you think government is inefficient now, just wait until they are critically understaffed...
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Yes Sweetcell but democrats had the government this past four years. If there is a need for cost cutting as you say why didn’t they?
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Did democrats run on making government more efficient?
I don’t remember that
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If they're serious about cutting federal expenses, fruit flies ain't gonna cut it.
(https://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/2022-10/3-7-03bud-rev10-24-22_f1.png)
(https://www.cbpp.org/sites/default/files/2024-07/4-14-08tax_rev7-18-24_f1.png)
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RFK JR to HHS apparently
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Yes Sweetcell but democrats had the government this past four years. If there is a need for cost cutting as you say why didn’t they?
Did democrats run on making government more efficient?
same answer to both: you can't run on everything, so they didn't hype government efficiency. i don't think it's something that the average voter is pining for, but i could be wrong there. the GOP did include cost-cutting in their promises, and they won, so who knows... but i'm not seeing a lot of public expressions of anticipation for efficiency - i'm seeing that folks are excited for lower costs at the grocery store, not fewer federal employees.
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Yes Sweetcell but democrats had the government this past four years. If there is a need for cost cutting as you say why didn’t they?
Did democrats run on making government more efficient?
same answer to both: you can't run on everything, so they didn't hype government efficiency. i don't think it's something that the average voter is pining for, but i could be wrong there. the GOP did include cost-cutting in their promises, and they won, so who knows... but i'm not seeing a lot of public expressions of anticipation for efficiency - i'm seeing that folks are excited for lower costs at the grocery store, not fewer federal employees.
Run on everything?
They ran on joy and the bad orange man.
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Is this the worst cabinet in history?
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RFK JR to HHS apparently
Confirmed
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Is this the worst cabinet in history?
He’s doing this to fulfill promises to his inner circle. He doesn’t care if they’re confirmed or not. If any of them do pass confirmation, they won’t last a year.
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Is this the worst cabinet in history?
He’s doing this to fulfill promises to his inner circle. He doesn’t care if they’re confirmed or not. If any of them do pass confirmation, they won’t last a year.
I'm down with this wishcasting. I want to believe.
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I don’t get it. Wouldn’t republicans be heavily favored even guaranteed to win Gaetz’ seat?
Special election would not fill the seat for over a year per Florida law. It would just sit empty.
Apparently because he resigned they can fill Gaetz’ seat during recess or some such.
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I don’t get it. Wouldn’t republicans be heavily favored even guaranteed to win Gaetz’ seat?
Special election would not fill the seat for over a year per Florida law. It would just sit empty.
Apparently because he resigned they can fill Gaetz’ seat during recess or some such.
What I read yesterday said he could not resign the term he was just reelected for until January __th and therefore the timeline is bad. But I’m likely out of loop.
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Burgum for Interior
Surprised it’s not the head of Exxon
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Burgum for Interior
Surprised it’s not the head of Exxon
Relative to the others, this is a very fine pick I have no complaints about.
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I hope you all buy these to place on gas pumps and wherever bacon is sold
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcfbySbaMAYoqms?format=jpg&name=large)
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Weird thing is price of gas ended up at $2.99/gallon. Not shabby. Arguably cheapest ever (taking into account inflation). I wouldn’t say it was high during most of the Biden years.
It wasn’t gas prices that was the problem. It was food. When you see people pick up a package of meat, look at price and put it back over and over again. $5.99 for small bag of chips…$7-$8 for a gallon of milk…
But that could have all been addressed by showing some concern…they ignored it. Obviously you aren’t going to lose votes in Arlington over it. But the lower middle class is now republican. What we have seen is a political realignment.
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I hope you all buy these to place on gas pumps and wherever bacon is sold
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcfbySbaMAYoqms?format=jpg&name=large)
Up 30 cents in my environs. Thanks, Trump.
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That s weird…here in Arlington it’s hit 2.96 at the expensive gas station….
⛽️
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2.79 is lowest in Arlington according to gas buddy ..thank you Joe!!!
Fortunately I don’t care about gas prices…I learned from the worst how NOT to do it
My dad was always a miser but when he got older and started to lose it things got real bad and he would drive from ritzy Collins Ave Miami Beach over causeway and up route 1 to a dangerous area to save a penny or two per gallon… one time he took me along when I visited him
I was like “Dad you are using up all this gas to get to the cheap gas and might get killed!!”
So sad.
RIP dad
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CNN a few minutes ago
(https://i.ibb.co/yXP2Wyx/IMG-4456.png) (https://ibb.co/xDLZJjr)
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is it just me or does that headline need a grammar check
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Yeah… TDS is real
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Here's a suggestion human garbage representative from North Carolina, why not actually have a conversation with the incoming New Jersey representative you are so desperate to score points off of...
man that felt good
NP: Jon Muq - Flying Away
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well here's a grift endorsement that boardies should be able to get behind: an official trump guitar!!!
(https://gettrumpguitars.com/cdn/shop/files/trump_banner.jpg)
available in both electric (https://gettrumpguitars.com/products/american-eagle-electric-guitar) and acoustic (https://gettrumpguitars.com/products/american-eagle-acoustic-guitar) versions, and even a $10,000 autographed option! rock out with your MAGA out!!!
(these guitars appear to be utterly unimpressive... but i doubt the target audience for these are actual guitar players looking for an alternative to a similarly priced les paul)
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Gibson should sue
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I was ok with the sneakers and even the bible....but a guitar, this has gone too far
where is my pitchfork!
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Gibson should sue
unfortunately it looks like they made it just different enough to avoid trademark infringement. there are many les paul "inspired" knockoffs out there. for reasons i'm not aware of, guitar headstocks are the thing that will get you sued. i'm pretty sure the trump guitar's headstock is different enough from gibson's "open book" headstock that they're safe from the lawyers, but who knows...
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I would buy Trump toilet paper.
Would also make a great holiday gift for that special Trump voter in your life!
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I would buy Trump toilet paper.
result! (https://www.google.com/search?q=Trump+toilet+paper)
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Wow I had no idea it was so popular
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well here's a grift endorsement that boardies should be able to get behind: an official trump guitar!!!
(https://gettrumpguitars.com/cdn/shop/files/trump_banner.jpg)
available in both electric (https://gettrumpguitars.com/products/american-eagle-electric-guitar) and acoustic (https://gettrumpguitars.com/products/american-eagle-acoustic-guitar) versions, and even a $10,000 autographed option! rock out with your MAGA out!!!
(these guitars appear to be utterly unimpressive... but i doubt the target audience for these are actual guitar players looking for an alternative to a similarly priced les paul)
RatBastard has bought 7 and desperately needs someone help him manage his budget so his kids can eat.
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I was ok with the sneakers and even the bible....but a guitar, this has gone too far
where is my pitchfork!
Well, your pitchfork was bought by Condé Nast and, according to wikipedia, is being rolled into GQ.
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I was ok with the sneakers and even the bible....but a guitar, this has gone too far
where is my pitchfork!
Well, your pitchfork was bought by Condé Nast and, according to wikipedia, is being rolled into GQ.
(https://i.giphy.com/3o7TKwmBiXfwA951ra.webp)
tri corner hat not required
but lol on the response!
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Interesting
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/23/trump-liberal-cabinet-rfk-tulsi-gabbard-bessent
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Can’t say I disagree too much
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/25/rfk-jr-prescription-drugs-cannabis-psychedelics
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Gibson should sue
Breaking: Trump Guitars hit with cease and desist from Gibson over use of Les Paul body shape link (http://trib.al/GUnjtdF)
X-posted in schadenfreude thread
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The kids are NOT alright
the 2024 election, 46% of voters aged 18 to 29 voted for Donald Trump This marks an increase in support for Trump among young voters compared to the 2020 election, where he received 36%
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The first political realignment since 1968.
Oh what a time to be alive.
Hoping for the first economic boom since Bill Clinton.
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Goodness… kash to run the FBI
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It’s weird to announce a nominee before firing the current Director. I guess he couldn’t wait to freak you out.
Who cares? Wray sucks anyway
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Goodness… kash to run the FBI
Worse than I thought
https://bsky.app/profile/julieroginsky.bsky.social/post/3lc7gbg6mus27
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Kash Patel can serve as "acting" director of the FBI for *at least* 210 days. So if you think Collins or Murkowski or Tillis or McConnell can stop him -- they won't. And by the time 210 days are up, this shit will be normalized and the FBI will be decimated.
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Ha!
@prolibshow
The derp state
Nytpitchbot, I could not love you more
South Asian Americans are often stereotyped as brainy academic high achievers. But Trump's new pick for Director of the FBI has worked to change that image.
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Dude you have a bad case of TDS.
You need to stop worrying and learn how to love the Trump. Ok maybe I wouldn’t go that far but just ignore the noise. You can’t do anything about it so why worry? The country will go on. He isn’t going to “destroy America.”
I found the appointment of Charles Kushner amusing. We are sending our worst to France!
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Sorry but this thread was appropriately named
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In not as bad as it seems news
U.S. House breakdown, July 2024
🟥 221 R
🟦 214 D
U.S. House breakdown, January 2025*
🟥 220 R
🟦 215 D
Welp at least an ineffective congress is better than an overthrow of the government
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Actually due to resignations the number will be 217 to 215 so provided every member is present the Rs can only lose two votes...
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My son says you need 218 votes to be elected speaker…
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Actually due to resignations the number will be 217 to 215 so provided every member is present the Rs can only lose two votes...
exactly what trump wants: the House is now his hostage. johnson has zero room to maneuver.
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This is depressing, this really would have changed everything
Republicans only won the House by 7,500 total votes in three congressional districts—an average of 2,500 votes in each.
That’s how close Democrats came to taking the House, in a country of over 340 million people. 7,500 votes.
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You can look at it that way….
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You can look at it that way….
I mean that ship has sailed
but the democratic party lost WAAAAY more than the GOP/Trump won
I just don't know how they will learn the lessons of their loss and how their messaging is so unappealing to so many
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their messaging is so unappealing to so many
IMO it's less about "unappealing" and more about "missing the mark". it was the economy stupid, and the Dems struck out on that one. i just read a twat to the effect of "trump was elected to fix an economy that doesn't need fixing" - how did the Dems miss that so completely? people traveled more this thanksgiving than ever before, and black friday & cyber monday smashed all records - doesn't sound like an economy in recession, now does it? inflation is back down*, and inflation has been lower in the US than other industrialized countries since the pandemic - but you wouldn't know it, given how the GOP owned the "we need to turn around the disastrous biden economy ASAP" narrative...
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Your response is why we lost
Yes the wealthy are still wealthy
But the voters that used to be Dems… were hurting and regardless of inflation slowing down the grove prices are stilll 20-40% higher then they were a few years ago
We lost those people… and Trump welcomed them with open arms… even if it was on false promises
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This argument that people spending for Christmas or traveling means a lot of people aren’t hurting is so moronic yet I keep seeing it….
Just cause you spend more doesn’t mean it doesn’t suck to see a small bag of chips at $6.99 or ground beef at TJs going from $3.49 to 4.99 etc etc. There is no way in hell people’s salaries kept up with rising food prices. And inflation affects the less well off disproportionately. Of course it doesn’t affect Sweetcell though..
But keep spouting this none sense liberals.. keep missing the message…
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This argument that people spending for Christmas or traveling means a lot of people aren’t hurting is so moronic yet I keep seeing it….
Just cause you spend more doesn’t mean it doesn’t suck to see a small bag of chips at $6.99 or ground beef at TJs going from $3.49 to 4.99 etc etc. There is no way in hell people’s salaries kept up with rising food prices. And inflation affects the less well off disproportionately. Of course it doesn’t affect Sweetcell though..
But keep spouting this none sense liberals.. keep missing the message…
Once in a while I will make veggie sloppy Joes and my daughter will get a small bag of Doritos to scoop up the Joe but will skip the bun. And the Doritos cost $2.69, not $6.99.
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Brilliant space!
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Jonathan Richman
March 13, 14 and 15
Ottobar
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Jonathan Richman
March 13, 14 and 15
Ottobar
Dancing at a lesbian bar has been endangered due to the election results, so you're technically correct.
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Jonathan Richman
March 13, 14 and 15
Ottobar
Dancing at a lesbian bar has been endangered due to the election results, so you're technically correct.
Does anyone remember there was a time you couldn’t dance at some bars in NYC as they had to buy some really expensive cabaret licenses or something and they were enforcing it
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I read all the lesbian bars are closing down so that’s why you can’t dance at a lesbian bar anymore.
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Jonathan Richman
March 13, 14 and 15
Ottobar
Dancing at a lesbian bar has been endangered due to the election results, so you're technically correct.
Does anyone remember there was a time you couldn’t dance at some bars in NYC as they had to buy some really expensive cabaret licenses or something and they were enforcing it
yup, it was a really ridiculous leftover from prohibition. apparently it was only repealed in 2017, per the googles.
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Maybe he just loves pipe bombs? (https://wtop.com/crime/2024/12/prosecutors-say-150-pipe-bombs-found-at-virginia-mans-home-in-what-could-be-fbis-largest-ever-seizure-of-explosive-devices/)