Elections will have been suspended by then.
These are the 33 Senate seats up for election in 2020.
20 (likely 21) of the 33 are Republican held seats.
Alabama Doug Jones Democratic
Alaska Dan Sullivan Republican
Arkansas Tom Cotton Republican
Colorado Cory Gardner Republican
Delaware Chris Coons Democratic
Georgia David Perdue Republican
Idaho Jim Risch Republican
Illinois Dick Durbin Democratic
Iowa Joni Ernst Republican
Kansas Pat Roberts Republican
Kentucky Mitch McConnell Republican
Louisiana Bill Cassidy Republican
Maine Susan Collins Republican
Massachusetts Ed Markey Democratic
Michigan Gary Peters Democratic
Minnesota Tina Smith Democratic
Mississippi TBD (2018 Special Election)
Montana Steve Daines Republican
Nebraska Ben Sasse Republican
New Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen Democratic
New Jersey Cory Booker Democratic
New Mexico Tom Udall Democratic
North Carolina Thom Tillis Republican
Oklahoma Jim Inhofe Republican
Oregon Jeff Merkley Democratic
Rhode Island Jack Reed Democratic
South Carolina Lindsey Graham Republican
South Dakota Mike Rounds Republican
Tennessee Lamar Alexander Republican
Texas John Cornyn Republican
Virginia Mark Warner Democratic
West Virginia Shelley Moore Capito Republican
Wyoming Mike Enzi Republican
Ok...midterms have terminated
early contenders for Dem Nomination?
Beto
Cory Booker
Gavin Newsom
Al Franken?!
No longer contenders
Hil
Bernie
Liz Warren
Well wether to woo or not depends on wether a person is wooable but anyone who says democrats represent everything they are against is hopeless at this point...democrats are going to move left during the primaries...
I kind of have come to conclude that the whole appeal to undecideds or independents theory is bullshit...,excite your base...get them out and convert more people to your ideas NOT act wushu washy and water down your stances to appeal to a person who despises everything about your party thus alienating your base and making sure they don’t turn out
Potentially our first Native American president. How exciting!
Well then there is no point trying to woo him as the democrats see being pro choice as a key part of their platform and that ain’t going to change
Personally I am pro life for MYSELF but since I can’t have babies by myself it matters not a whit...but I just don’t feel comfortable telling someone else what to do on this
I do think the democrats overdo it though...can’t we be pro choice and at the same time do more to encourage people not to abort?!? Is that so wrong?!? Can’t we accept abortion is a bad outcome?
I wish so hard we had not miscarried what would have been my third kid...now we are too old and I have accepted I will not have more kids...but boy did I want that one...life is precious and babies are such a blessing that even though I am pro choice I will always have trouble with abortion...millions of babies never born...it’s crazy
man, with your stance on Immigration coupled with your statement below...you might have to turn in your democrat card
I do agree we've created a situation where Democrats can't talk about either of these topics unless it's exactly on the party line
whoa...100% agreement with hutch...is this bizarro dayman, with your stance on Immigration coupled with your statement below...you might have to turn in your democrat card
I do agree we've created a situation where Democrats can't talk about either of these topics unless it's exactly on the party line
I don't remember his exact stance on immigrants, but agree with him 100% on abortion.
My thought on abortion is if you're against it, don't have one.I just don't think it's that simple. You can say that about Howard Stern, but I think it's way more coplex when talking about the medical procedure to terminate ones pregnancy
He’s not going to win, but there’s something about the Julian For The Future tagline thats awfully faith-inspiring.You have to start the thread and it will come true
I will not support Gillibrand in any way
That I can tell you
Fine...I would vote for her against Trump but would not canvass or donate
Fine...I would vote for her against Trump but would not canvass or donate
I have no opinion on her. Why do you feel the way you do about her?
Fine...I would vote for her against Trump but would not canvass or donate
I have no opinion on her. Why do you feel the way you do about her?
In her memoir, she called Arlington, "a soulless suburb."
Fine...I would vote for her against Trump but would not canvass or donate
I have no opinion on her. Why do you feel the way you do about her?
In her memoir, she called Arlington, "a soulless suburb."
so she's honest... how is that a negative?
she is DEAD to me now...how dare sheFine...I would vote for her against Trump but would not canvass or donate
I have no opinion on her. Why do you feel the way you do about her?
In her memoir, she called Arlington, "a soulless suburb."
so she's honest... how is that a negative?
I object! Another strike against here....
Who knew Julian hated rich white men so much?LOL
I wish I had more South American test pressings....they really don’t exist...I don’t think I own one
Is it racist if I link to https://www.julianforthefuture.com/ now?I wish I had more South American test pressings....they really don’t exist...I don’t think I own one
Who would be the most likely candidate to promise more South American test pressings?
Damn that is pretty shockingagreed
Damn that is pretty shockingagreed
...quick question though...doesn't this counter the narrative that nytimes is a mouthpiece for the dems/liberals?
I don’t get people that tell people not to run....seems very anti-democratic and un American
Now I can see trying to convince people not to vote third party once all candidates are announced for general but at this early point?
Anyone who wants to be president should run to be president...the more the better
Perot is most certainly not dead.Unless you’ve spoken to him in the last few minutes, this is really irresponsible.
The Republican Party is so solidly brainwashed and behind Trump I am not sure anyone can bleed much support from him...not even - I stand corrected- an 89 year old Perot
i don't support this opinion, but it's out there. ugh.wise man once said "opinions are like assholes...everyone's got one"
I mean I could see a firestorm over this....Red states objecting etc
Y’all do understand making a day a federal holiday in no way makes the majority of “poor” people have it off, right?
yeah, they'd go insane. because after years of snipping a little voters' rights here, a little bit there... it would all be undone, and then some, in one swoop.I know... a simple concept too
Y’all do understand making a day a federal holiday in no way makes the majority of “poor” people have it off, right?I wholeheartly agree, but corporations like wallmart and starbuck will want to do the civic duty (PR) and a lot more "poor" people will easily be able to vote
Cory throws his hat in the ring
please explain?Cory throws his hat in the ring
Won't be nominated.
eh, i'm not sure of that. there is a solid segement of the voting population - around a third of the electorate - that will indeed support trump no matter what he does (including shooting someone on 5th ave). but between that third and the 50'ish% that he needs to get elected again - that's the segment that is vulnerable. (reminder: trump won 2016 with 46.1%, so if 1/3 is correct then he needs to muster another ~13%).
it's all about timing, say Hil went up against Mitt or McCain...I think she would have won
please explain?Cory throws his hat in the ring
Won't be nominated.
As far as Trump chances if the economy averages 250k job growth a month for the next 20 months and wages continue to grow I have to think he will be re-elected no matter how ridiculous and objectionable people may find him....I don't think this will be sustainable...the wheels are starting to come off on this stuff
it's sad that her chances at 2020 will be brought down by this
she's toast...
this is an argument that starting the 2020 primaries 2 years ahead is a bad idea
TBH ...I think she was better running mate material, not anymore
or CastroThis #julianforthefuture is really catching on ;)
HAIL JULIAN!or CastroThis #julianforthefuture is really catching on ;)
I think Space you have the wrong approach
Swing voters in today’s America???
The key is to drive up your base turnout....get people to vote who hate Trump...not try to find a needle in the haystack: an open minded white man in the Midwest who is having trouble deciding whether he supports Trump (are there many of these)
Hillary lost among other things cause black people could not be bothered to stand in line for her in the same numbers that did so for Obama in Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee
The old model of targeting the center is dead....fundamentally you have to get your base to turn out...give them something to stand in line for....not some milquetoast platform to target a few “swing voters”
At least that is the way I see it and I used to totally share your view Space
Look at at Tim Kaine? In retrospect did he add anything to Hillary?zero, I don't even think he delivered VA to Hill
Basically we need a Trump on the leftNo such animal exists or ever could
Biden is one of a kind in that he might peel off some support in the middle but I know he is too old
I have no idea who should get nomination until they go through the paces
Kamala Harris has appeal at this point but who knows...a misstep after the town hall gives one pause (she should have stuck to her statement about insurance companies and not gone back on it)
Basically we need a Trump on the left
Biden is one of a kind in that he might peel off some support in the middle but I know he is too old
I have no idea who should get nomination until they go through the paces
Kamala Harris has appeal at this point but who knows...a misstep after the town hall gives one pause (she should have stuck to her statement about insurance companies and not gone back on it)
Basically we need a Trump on the left
I think we need someone who can heal us from the damage Trump has done to the country. We don't need a Trump on the left.
Justin Trudeau?Is Canada going to invade
Justin Trudeau?Is Canada going to invade
apparently there is a border crisis and we were focusing on the wrong one!
I welcome the Canadian overlords!
I don’t get it...was there a benefit for Warren putting Native American on a Texas bar application? Maybe she thought she was?She's toast, seems silly that this would bring her down. But all her previous statements on this matter contradict
no-nothing
prepare to feel the Bern!donny is trying to get this nick-name to stick....
let the haters commence....
One can only hope Bernie doesn’t cost us two elections but goddamnit if he ain’t going to do his best...
It’s up to the voters
Now whether the Democratic Party should have let him run in its primaries is a fair questionwhere are you going with that logic...so in 2016 the democratic party should have said you can't run in this primary?
Still doesn't mean he can register as a Dem and run in their primary and let the voters decide
Yeah I know it’s crazy for the Democratic Party to require people be - you know- members of the Democratic Party to run as its standard bearer for the highest office in the land...
wow...giving FL to the GOP (obviously a prediction two years ahead doesn't mean squat)
So are we thinking the felons are really going to have no impact in FL?
there are like 1 million and the elections have been only won in the thousands...
You know Florida sidehatch....short of the three southeastern counties it’s Trump country...Can't argue that...
hey, felons are people too
if they have done their time, isn't that enough?
I wouldn't say that the dems are reliying on them, but how can it not have an impact on a state that has razor thin margins every election for the last few decades
Trust me the GOP was trying to kill that bill with all their might as they know it might tip the results
Flordia impact on our presidential election is insane....and isn't that ironic as Floridians are kind of insane too (check out: Florida Man (@_FloridaMan). Real-life stories of the world's worst superhero)
Republicans in state are doing everything they can to stop them from getting the vote. Hard to say how many new voters will actually get added.
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Exactly
my point exactly, they wouldn't be trying so hard if they though it would have no impacthey, felons are people tooRepublicans in state are doing everything they can to stop the ballot initiative from being implemented.
Ok put your money where your mouth is
I bet you $50 Trump carries Florida and Ohio regardless of felons voting
Had to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trumpNo you didn't. No one put a gun to your head.
MAGA=Gun ownerHad to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trumpNo you didn't. No one put a gun to your head.
You could’ve squelched on the bet like a rat. You CHOSE not to.MAGA=Gun ownerHad to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trumpNo you didn't. No one put a gun to your head.
it was a part of the bet...he would have had to say he loved Hilliary, which I was looking forward too
I blame Michigan!
hmm...I'm done taking bets on politics
I bet my MAGA brother-in-law $100 on Hil to win, then the day before we doubled the bet...
Had to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trump
Luckily he doesn't do social media...otherwise I'm sure that would be posted many times in the run up to 2020hmm...I'm done taking bets on politics
I bet my MAGA brother-in-law $100 on Hil to win, then the day before we doubled the bet...
Had to sign one of the $100s to say that I love trump
Wow...that is a serious offense
Well this dude works for a Republican think tanknot going to argue that...but I do think he makes some pretty good points that made me throw up in my mouth and have an aneurysm
The harder we accept things are going to be to unseat Trump -the less delusional we are - the more the appeal of Joe Biden...
On the other hand this would seem to run counter to the motivate your base argument
It’s all about balance!
Well this dude works for a Republican think tanknot going to argue that...but I do think he makes some pretty good points that made me throw up in my mouth and have an aneurysm
I think we know it will do nothing
Be realistic....wishful thinking isn’t going to defeat him
If I had a nickel for every person that told me he would be impeached or resign cause he didn’t enjoy being president...
His popularity has held steady through 5643 scandals
But Trump’s approval is always the same give a few points here or there no matter what happens....that’s my point
We have had dozens of things happen that are insane and it doesn’t move the needle
Do you think the Kushner security clearance will have any impact? Of course not...it’s all baked in...everyone knows he is a slime bag lying piece of shit but nobody cares...his supporters like him
Predictably no Bloomberg runI like the guy, but don't think he has any appeal in red states at all....
Gaffes? Trump is President!!not going to argue that...but those people find those as 'endearing qualities' on trump and the sign of satan on democrats
Sherrod Brown not running
If Biden runs in the primaries this is another positive for him although everyone seems to be hating on Joe....
ha...when I heard this on the radio, my first though was 'space will be bummed'Sherrod Brown not runningBoo. I guess this makes Joe my guy.
Gaffes? Trump is President!!
Gaffes? Trump is President!!
Democrats can't lower themselves to the GOP's subterranean level. I loved Franken and was hoping that he'd run for president, but dude had to go. You can't condemn Trump for his shit if you're willing to tolerate it in your own party.
Democrats can't lower themselves to the GOP's subterranean level. I loved Franken and was hoping that he'd run for president, but dude had to go. You can't condemn Trump for his shit if you're willing to tolerate it in your own party.You've just joined Gillibrand on Hutch's hissyfit list.
(It’s an AOL account 😂).I can not tell you how many Small Business Owners, whose businesses are doing in the multi million in revenue still use AOL as their primary form of communication with their clients and the public
TAN: Chris Christie is on the board of directors for the Investment Firm that owns the company I work for and I just got his personal email address. (It’s an AOL account 😂).
What do I do with this information?
TAN: Chris Christie is on the board of directors for the Investment Firm that owns the company I work forKinda waiting for Yada to Doxx julie on this....
I have three post it notes of personal info on yada, his wife, and kids. The fool posted his photo account like six months ago.TAN: Chris Christie is on the board of directors for the Investment Firm that owns the company I work forKinda waiting for Yada to Doxx julie on this....
Oooh. Is my file full of guacamole stained chipotle receipts?Theres a wellness blog somewhere in it.
I think if you work at IRS and release tax info from someone you go to jailFor sure...that's why I said leak
I think if you work at IRS and release tax info from someone you go to jailFor sure...that's why I said leak
Also didn't some congresspeople already see them? or muller?
more that there was no concrete evidence of fraud, so why kill ourselves on this topicI think if you work at IRS and release tax info from someone you go to jailFor sure...that's why I said leak
Also didn't some congresspeople already see them? or muller?
Come on! Do you think people can just look at the president’s tax returns and release info and nobody will be able to find out who did it?
Have we ever had an identical twin run for President?isn't that close to the plot line of the movie Dave
Could create shenanigans!!
I just read last month a longform retrospective on the film Dave which seems like a really asinine thing for someone to have written a longform article about but then again I was the one reading it so something something glass houses, stones, Leelee Sobieski.Have we ever had an identical twin run for President?isn't that close to the plot line of the movie Dave
Could create shenanigans!!
As far as the media question - I have a love-hate relationship with the media. I consume vast quantities of it, but much of it I find flawed and rapidly getting worse. I don't think I have ever seen Fox News. I like facts, stripped of biases. Fox News is obviously not that. But nobody else is anymore. I have read the New York Times daily since I was a kid. It used to be a great paper. They were always left-leaning, but they kept that part to the op-ed pages. They dealt with a lot of hard news and had great cultural coverage as well and largely succeeded in keeping the general news operation as bias-free as possible. Today, the entire paper is wildly left-leaning. Like the Washington Post, business concerns pushed them to make a conscious decision to abandon generalism and gear the paper toward its base - A very liberal and cosmopolitan readership. I've been thinking of canceling my subscription for years, but just can't do it after it being a daily touchstone for 40+ years. But the NY Times is regularly awful now.
Like I said, I have a love-hate relationship with the media. I still love it enough that I gorge on it, but I really hate it because I feel like there are no high quality generalist news sources left. 20 years ago (maybe even more recently) I felt like reading the New York Times gave me an excellent, largely bias-free handle on what's going on in the world. Back then, even the Washington Post was half decent (emphasis on "half"). Today, I don't feel like there are any truly non-biased sources left out there.
Stacey Abrams | LEAD FROM THE OUTSIDE
4/9
At UDC (presented by politics and prose)
--hasn't announce yet if she's running...but I heard that Biden was hinting a running mate already (before he even announced)
What has she done, other than lost a rigged governor's race?To be honest, no clue...this was the blurb
Stacey Abrams | LEAD FROM THE OUTSIDE
4/9
At UDC (presented by politics and prose)
--hasn't announce yet if she's running...but I heard that Biden was hinting a running mate already (before he even announced)
What has she done, other than lost a rigged governor's race?
Stacey Abrams | LEAD FROM THE OUTSIDE
4/9
At UDC (presented by politics and prose)
--hasn't announce yet if she's running...but I heard that Biden was hinting a running mate already (before he even announced)
What has she done, other than lost a rigged governor's race?
if only we had some sort of a mechanism by which we could submit a person's name, and this mechanism would do some sort of a "search" for us, and then display a bunch of potential answers... maybe even ideally sorted by relevancy... one can only dream.
This may be bs but on msnbc reporting Biden is considering making Abrams his VP when he announcescould have sworn that was mentioned in this thread before
Stacey Abrams
--hasn't announce yet if she's running...but I heard that Biden was hinting a running mate already (before he even announced)
Did you guys vote yet?Doesn't post in 3 years....and this is the first foray back
The gay guy. Who speaks multiple languages, and everyone thinks is so, adorable.I guess it speaks to our 'wokeness' but I think I had already read a few articles and news stories about Buttigieg
He wins. His name is funny too, for being gay. He, so wins.
The gay guy. Who speaks multiple languages, and everyone thinks is so, adorable.I guess it speaks to our 'wokeness' but I think I had already read a few articles and news stories about Buttigieg
He wins. His name is funny too, for being gay. He, so wins.
and then in one article it just said his husband blah blah blah...
It was shocking in the sense that I'd already heard a lot about him and that wasn't the headline and the only thing people were talking about (now I'm sure your news sources are slightly different)
but I'm glad that people can talk about him, his experience and his policies ....and not lead with they gay mayor from S. Bend (and has Butt in his difficult to pronounce name)
yea people for being mature
better than fucking BetoI think there are a lot of men and women would would like to be fucking beto...
Buttigieg is way dreamier, IMO.I'm not saying a 3-way is off the table either...but we're really getting off topic
^ unfortunately that just feeds trump's "democrats are anti-semites" narrative.
EDIT: and also its good as hellwait...I thought jews don't believe in Hell? (said by a JINO...jew in name only)
^ unfortunately that just feeds trump's "democrats are anti-semites" narrative.exactly my point...what is the irony of it Jews overwhelmingly vote for Democratic Presidential candidates
Should we create a rule that you're not allowed to talk about Jexodus without posting a photo of Elizabeth Pipko in her lingerie, since that's all the attention she wanted anyway?
so i image-searched "Elizabeth Pipko lingerie". my day got better.I was coming back here to thanks Smakie for that too
so i image-searched "Elizabeth Pipko lingerie". my day got better.I was coming back here to thanks Smakie for that too
i had no idea "jexodus" was a widely used term, and i had no idea who Elizabeth Pipko was.
Fugazi Captialism...I gotta imagine Ian groaned when he read that
TIL
MacKaye’s personal philosophy of not drinking alcohol or taking drugs – inspired, ironically enough, by right-wing rocker Ted Nugent’s own abstentions
Wow, I dropped the nuge twice in one day...
I honestly didn't think anything would ever be worse than "Pokemon go to the polls" but this motherfucker did it!A wild incumbent appears!
I honestly didn't think anything would ever be worse than "Pokemon go to the polls"no man, nothing could be worse than that...while I voted for Hill...that comment alone made her unfit to be president
Comey ensured Trump won.....Mueller got him re-elected
So much for the “deep state”
Right blame the “liberal media”
I just don’t agree at all with you...
This is a guy who does LITERAL financial crimes in front of us, has a history of doing actual financial crimes in the past, is an admitted sex pervert, backs almost exclusively polices that are unpopular by the vast majority of this country, and has no problem propping up actual nazis and white supremacists, and the media decides to focus on the hail mary that this insane dipshit who isn't clever enough to not tweet every thought that runs through his dying brain is somehow a Russian agent? Ok!Look, I hate Hutch as much as the next person, but, at most, only 80% of that is true about him.
This is a guy who does LITERAL financial crimes in front of us, has a history of doing actual financial crimes in the past, is an admitted sex pervert, backs almost exclusively polices that are unpopular by the vast majority of this country, and has no problem propping up actual nazis and white supremacists, and the media decides to focus on the hail mary that this insane dipshit who isn't clever enough to not tweet every thought that runs through his dying brain is somehow a Russian agent? Ok!Look, I hate Hutch as much as the next person, but, at most, only 80% of that is true about him.
I've been away for a while...did he take an alt-right turn?
If I can ask...what do you "love" about Buttigieg and Beto? Like, what specific policies or stances do those guys have that you love? My gut is that people generally just like how those guys make them feel inside, but maybe I'm wrong? I don't really know about Buttigieg Boys or Beto Brahs to ask, but that's the vibe i get from Facebook.
It just seems weird to me to put Warren ("a ton of serious policy proposals") and Sanders ("would try to do things I love") in the same sentence if that's the case. Maybe it's not and those guys have really good policies that people love that I don't know about. I'm dumb!
you still think policy positions win presidential elections? how quaint.
I guess if you are going to be “the party of healthcare,” you should probably put someone who is already good a medicare fraud to head it up
lord only knows what kind of pics they're going to unearth of Mayor Buttplug.
lord only knows what kind of pics they're going to unearth of Mayor Buttplug.This would've maybe been passable funny if you named him Mayor Butt-Plug, playing off the hyphenated last name stereotype. Maybe.
Space has continued to make his homophobic comedy jokes about Buttigieg, ignoring that he's a war veteran, a mayor, and a Democratic candidate for president because gay = sordid pervert in his mind.
lord only knows what kind of pics they're going to unearth of Mayor Buttplug.
Is he known to have had a checkered past? Or is the thought here that because he's gay, there must have scandalous pix?
Space has continued to make his homophobic comedy jokes about Buttigieg, ignoring that he's a war veteran, a mayor, and a Democratic candidate for president because gay = sordid pervert in his mind.
Well Mr. S.R. Woke, I can guarantee that's what the Orange Fatty will nickname young Lieutenant Peter should he beat the odds and become the nominee. Just beating him to the punch.
And as a Kinsey 3 who has played for both teams, I can say from experience that the gays are far more perverted on average than the straights. Not that that's a bad thing.
P.S. Nothing wrong with a good buttplug either.
Space has continued to make his homophobic comedy jokes about Buttigieg, ignoring that he's a war veteran, a mayor, and a Democratic candidate for president because gay = sordid pervert in his mind.
Well Mr. S.R. Woke, I can guarantee that's what the Orange Fatty will nickname young Lieutenant Peter should he beat the odds and become the nominee. Just beating him to the punch.
Also, I highly doubt that Trump will use such a blatantly toxic nickname as Mayor Buttplug.I mean, would you really want to put money on that?
Space has continued to make his homophobic comedy jokes about Buttigieg, ignoring that he's a war veteran, a mayor, and a Democratic candidate for president because gay = sordid pervert in his mind.
Well Mr. S.R. Woke, I can guarantee that's what the Orange Fatty will nickname young Lieutenant Peter should he beat the odds and become the nominee. Just beating him to the punch.
And as a Kinsey 3 who has played for both teams, I can say from experience that the gays are far more perverted on average than the straights. Not that that's a bad thing.
P.S. Nothing wrong with a good buttplug either.
dude . . . men are the fucking perverts in all equations. speak, the fucking truth.
guuurrrlll
Space has continued to make his homophobic comedy jokes about Buttigieg, ignoring that he's a war veteran, a mayor, and a Democratic candidate for president because gay = sordid pervert in his mind.
Well Mr. S.R. Woke, I can guarantee that's what the Orange Fatty will nickname young Lieutenant Peter should he beat the odds and become the nominee. Just beating him to the punch.
So you're saying you're as big of an asshole as Trump is. Ok got it.
Also, I highly doubt that Trump will use such a blatantly toxic nickname as Mayor Buttplug. So you're even worse than Trump. Congrats guy.
Yes, you're right, I am the one to blame for you denigrating somebody as Mayor Buttplug because he's gay. I am certain that if Kamala Harris' last name was Buttigieg, you would have called her Queen Buttplug.
Except that lol no of course you wouldn't. But you go ahead and attack me for what you said, sweetie. That's a nice boy.
I've used buttplugs before, and don't consider them at all perverted. So for me to call someone named Buttigieg "Buttplug" means I'm being playful with their and admittedly a little juvenile.
I still maintain the buttplug joke is funnier if its hyphenated but this is apparently my mountain to die upon alone.
He is still a little green but I like him
I like them all except one or two and they would all be better than Trump
I just think Biden has a better chance to beat Trump than a thirty something Mayor from South Bend etc...I mean decades of experience as a Senator and being VP for 8 years should be a plus...it is for me....but it seems a lot of the Democratic Party would rather have a socialist or a minor local Texas pol
Space has continued to make his homophobic comedy jokes about Buttigieg, ignoring that he's a war veteran, a mayor, and a Democratic candidate for president because gay = sordid pervert in his mind.
Well Mr. S.R. Woke, I can guarantee that's what the Orange Fatty will nickname young Lieutenant Peter should he beat the odds and become the nominee. Just beating him to the punch.
So you're saying you're as big of an asshole as Trump is. Ok got it.
Also, I highly doubt that Trump will use such a blatantly toxic nickname as Mayor Buttplug. So you're even worse than Trump. Congrats guy.
I have an answer to this one finally. I've been a champion of gay rights for 30+ years, arguing in favor of gay marriage and equal rights long before Tulsi Gabbard or Barack Obama were gay-friendly.. As a single person, i led a free spirited life where gender lines were blurred. I've used buttplugs before, and don't consider them at all perverted. So for me to call someone named Buttigieg "Buttplug" means I'm being playful with their and admittedly a little juvenile. I would call him that no matter what his gender or sexual preferences were. If anything, my using it proves I have a Beavis and Buttplug juvenile mentality, which i understand doesn't appeal to some adults. But for you to say it's "homophobic" for anybody to say it just shows that you're one of those politically correct idiots who are unable to see anything any way other than via your lazily defined black and white rules. In that respect, you're no different than a fundamentalist religious idiot.
I would also argue that it would be worse if Trump said it compared to me saying it, because the POTUS should be held to higher standards when it comes to juvenile behavior than some guy on an internet message board.
TL;DR: we're all jerks.
TL;DR: we're all jerks.
That was a pretty good post, but to end with we're all jerks is kind of like Trump saying there were some very fine people on both sides in Charlottesville. Space did his homophobic asshole schtick and I called him out on it. He responded by saying that I'm being a politically correct idiot and a fundamentalist religious idiot, which is exactly what Trump would say. So the lesson from Space is, "when I'm making my hilarious homophobic or racist jokes, you're being a fragile snowflake if it bothers you and here's my progressive resume that I'll dick-wave around."
But yeah, we're both to blame here. I'll be a SJW and Space can be a toxic piece of shit. And I doubt anybody would argue with that.
Ilhan Omar got in trouble for implying that US support of Israel is directly related to the influence of jewish money.as with much things...this is nuanced
I am so clueless...without getting graphic what are buttplugs for? I am racking my brain but I am not coming up with anything
I am so clueless...without getting graphic what are buttplugs for? I am racking my brain but I am not coming up with anything
I am so clueless...without getting graphic what are buttplugs for? I am racking my brain but I am not coming up with anything
i strongly recommend that you google "buttplug".
I am so clueless...without getting graphic what are buttplugs for? I am racking my brain but I am not coming up with anything
i strongly recommend that you google "buttplug".
this graph says a lot...
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Well as far as I know his band Foss put out one tape and two 45s and both are long unavailable and impossible to find so not sure what you speak of...
Going to meet Beto on Tuesday. What album is funniest if I ask him to autograph?
Sure, Beto claims to be a punk, but Spoon just shared a video of Buttigieg playing "The Way We Get By" on piano
https://twitter.com/spoontheband/status/1116777247996665856 (https://twitter.com/spoontheband/status/1116777247996665856)
Sure, Beto claims to be a punk, but Spoon just shared a video of Buttigieg playing "The Way We Get By" on piano
https://twitter.com/spoontheband/status/1116777247996665856 (https://twitter.com/spoontheband/status/1116777247996665856)
Mayor Pete Buttigieg Impressed the Hell Out of Ben Folds During a Duet in 2015 (https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27023806/mayor-pete-buttigieg-ben-folds-south-bend-piano-video-interview/)
Buttigieg Performed With the South Bend Symphony Orchestra in 2013 (https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/pete-buttigieg-piano/) (scroll down past the ben folds story)
apparently he plays guitar too. overall has more music cred than beto, IMO.
you guys are leaving out Hickenlooper....jams with bobby weir and others
(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/coloradopolitics.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/d/66/d66ecf29-5de4-582a-887f-a954b6c1e10f/5b9aab8440bd8.image.jpg?resize=750%2C500)
that's the guy from The Fray
here we go
(https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/9959639w/99db6baa/summit-la18-los-angeles-usa-shutterstock-editorial-9959639w.jpg)
Beto backlash has set in now that he is not running against Cruz
Also as a #BernieBro even I find him calling Phish "one of the great bands, have been one of the great bands in this country" is pretty close to disqualifying.yikes...that's a major blemish that I never knew about
Also as a #BernieBro even I find him calling Phish "one of the great bands, have been one of the great bands in this country" is pretty close to disqualifying.yikes...that's a major blemish that I never knew about
he is a senator from Vermont...I bet he loves ben and jerry's too
Also as a #BernieBro even I find him calling Phish "one of the great bands, have been one of the great bands in this country" is pretty close to disqualifying.
Can't believe folks would love a guy running against the most loathsome toad in America, and then not be as enamored when he actually had to make a case for himself against actual, qualified candidates!Beto backlash has set in now that he is not running against Cruz
.Personally I think we could not go about the process of electing a president more wrong...I co-sign that!
It should be regulated and take three months with a single day primary...
be nice to see a state other than Iowa, Kansas, NH or SC dominate the first few primaries. Those states represent such a skewed profile of the USA it's kind of absurd
even more absurd...be nice to see a state other than Iowa, Kansas, NH or SC dominate the first few primaries. Those states represent such a skewed profile of the USA it's kind of absurd
don't states like Iowa and NH have "we must be first" in their state constitutions? so if another state moves before them, they'll just move theirs accordingly to remain first... i could be wrong tho.
so i searched around and couldn't find it, but previously we discussed the possibility of "tapes" of Booty-Judge popping up and ruining his chances... well, some tapes have surfaced - but they aren't what you'd expect:
Secret tapes linger over Buttigieg's meteoric rise (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/438669-secret-tapes-linger-over-buttigiegs-meteoric-rise)
i don't fully understand this story... sounds like he's peripheral and this won't actually touch him?
it's been long time coming, but it's finally here: a contribution to this thread from the other side.
Bill Weld officially announces he is challenging Trump for GOP nomination in 2020 (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/15/politics/bill-weld-2020-trump/index.html)
so i searched around and couldn't find it, but previously we discussed the possibility of "tapes" of Booty-Judge popping up and ruining his chances... well, some tapes have surfaced - but they aren't what you'd expect:
Secret tapes linger over Buttigieg's meteoric rise (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/438669-secret-tapes-linger-over-buttigiegs-meteoric-rise)
i don't fully understand this story... sounds like he's peripheral and this won't actually touch him?
So peripheral that i couldn't follow it. But it's Spring Break and I've had a few more than 8 ounces.
it's been long time coming, but it's finally here: a contribution to this thread from the other side.
Bill Weld officially announces he is challenging Trump for GOP nomination in 2020 (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/15/politics/bill-weld-2020-trump/index.html)
I had a dream of beato putting a half-pipe in the rose garden
and Hickenlooper might put one of these (https://cdn.instructables.com/FYJ/26VS/G79DOS5U/FYJ26VSG79DOS5U.LARGE.jpg) in the lincoln bedroom
and Bill Weld is going to try to take trump out in the primaries...bold, but up hill with 80% approval by republicans
maybe ...but I'm not signing any freaking form for the GOPit's been long time coming, but it's finally here: a contribution to this thread from the other side.
Bill Weld officially announces he is challenging Trump for GOP nomination in 2020 (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/15/politics/bill-weld-2020-trump/index.html)
I'll register as a Republican and try to primary Trump if you guys will.
ok...funny foot note in an article about his 10 years of taxes
Sanders last year made $110 in music royalties, presumably for his 1987 folk album, "We Shall Overcome"
Hutch, do you have that on Vinyl? (actually, you probably would have burned it if you did)
Hate to discourage participation on this board as it's been getting dismal at times...
but, this was mentioned a few weeks back
and you of all people I thought would have noticed a post with a sexy mash tun with wood sidesI had a dream of beato putting a half-pipe in the rose garden
and Hickenlooper might put one of these (https://cdn.instructables.com/FYJ/26VS/G79DOS5U/FYJ26VSG79DOS5U.LARGE.jpg) in the lincoln bedroom
and Bill Weld is going to try to take trump out in the primaries...bold, but up hill with 80% approval by republicans
However, state law allows a political party to request that voters sign a pledge or statement of party affiliation before casting primary ballots.
yesterday bill weld made it official. there is a difference between saying you're going to do something, and actually throwing your hat in the ring. besides, the sexiness of that MT ensured that few people made it past the image and down to your BW statement/conjecture.I stand corrected...I thought it was official on feb 15th...but it was official that an exploratory committee would be started....4/15 it was officially announced he was running
If ever we needed Julian For The Future, it’s now.dude....Julian, your fundraising sucks balls...look at these others are crushing you and you have the name recognition
I hate focusing on fundraisingI agree...was more of a dig on Jules than anything substantive
Who cares?
I hate focusing on fundraising
Who cares?
Hillary raised way more than Trump
Howard Dean outraised everyone as did Bernie Sanders
It’s just a game political consultants and political media people play to profit and the joke is on you
karl rove is a Bernie Bro (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-trump-2020-karl-rove)
always suspicious when the opposition team tells you who would be the best candidate
But I don't see much here about wanting Bernie to win...you don't have to want him to win to be a Bernie Bro...get with the times man
..never heard of him...I've always detested this response from the cheeto and it's a common refrain (that his base eats up)
heck...why stop at felons who did their time from voting...
Bernie Sanders: Felons should be able to vote while in prison
My rep Beyer endorses Mayor PeteI was a little surprised by this early announcement too
Also...it's easy to impersonate Don...how are you going to impersonate Joe?
aaaaand the Dems have started eating their own:
Warren and Sanders pounce as Biden enters the race (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/warren-sanders-biden/index.html)
in their defense, they did give him a whole day...
aaaaand the Dems have started eating their own:
Warren and Sanders pounce as Biden enters the race (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/warren-sanders-biden/index.html)
in their defense, they did give him a whole day...
could Jacob Wohl guy be any more of a dirtbag
more dirt on this dirtbag.could Jacob Wohl guy be any more of a dirtbag
"Jacob Wohl is an American far-right conspiracy theorist, fraudster, and internet troll. He was formerly an online blogger and a columnist for the website The Gateway Pundit. Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Wohl)"
lol.
as if Fairfax had a good name.it does not...
more dirt on this dirtbag.could Jacob Wohl guy be any more of a dirtbag
"Jacob Wohl is an American far-right conspiracy theorist, fraudster, and internet troll. He was formerly an online blogger and a columnist for the website The Gateway Pundit. Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Wohl)"
lol.
‘Make Sh*t Up’: Inside Jacob Wohl’s Bonkers Investment Plan - The bumbling political operative pitched investors on a scheme to use fake news stories to manipulate political betting markets for profit. (https://www.thedailybeast.com/jacob-wohls-business-plan-make-shit-up-to-game-political-betting-sites)
I don’t like to talk about tickets as it’s pointless when the primaries have yet to take place but the best one by far would be Biden-Harris...it’s not even close
I don’t like to talk about tickets as it’s pointless when the primaries have yet to take place but the best one by far would be Biden-Harris...it’s not even close
I think I mentioned this as my pick 10 pages back but this guy Hutch told me to shut my trap.
Wait, are we giving out cookies?
Wait, are we giving out cookies?
little off brand man, did you forget to sign in as ratbastardWait, are we giving out cookies?Fucking snowflakes.
I don’t like to talk about tickets as it’s pointless when the primaries have yet to take place but the best one by far would be Biden-Harris...it’s not even close
Folks if you think anyone can defeat Trump with this economy you are living in fantasy land. Imagine five more quarters of 3% growth and millions more jobs created....
Folks if you think anyone can defeat Trump with this economy you are living in fantasy land. Imagine five more quarters of 3% growth and millions more jobs created....this is going to be an uphill battle...but let's not give up already
Folks if you think anyone can defeat Trump with this economy you are living in fantasy land. Imagine five more quarters of 3% growth and millions more jobs created....this is going to be an uphill battle...but let's not give up already
the economy is NOT doing well for the Trump Voter....if we could just make them realize that, we'd have a better chance. We have to really invest in the independents that did the 'let's give him a chance' vote. I think at least half of those voters are having buyers remorse.
So if the economy is not doing well for the Trump Voter, who is it doing well for? And who is the "Trump Voter?"I'll assume your response was rhetorical
Folks if you think anyone can defeat Trump with this economy you are living in fantasy land. Imagine five more quarters of 3% growth and millions more jobs created....this is going to be an uphill battle...but let's not give up already
the economy is NOT doing well for the Trump Voter....if we could just make them realize that, we'd have a better chance. We have to really invest in the independents that did the 'let's give him a chance' vote. I think at least half of those voters are having buyers remorse.
That just shows how out of touch you are in your DC bubble if you discount an extra grand a year for low income workers ..it can be the difference between make or break
Everybody is benefiting from this economy and you better believe voters will credit the President
And if you think voters will look at a growing economy and increasing take home pay and say “Yeah now is the time to try socialism...look at how well it worked in Venezuela” you are nuts
honestly this amounts to less than $1000 per year for most of these workers (who-hoo, what am I going to spend that extra $40 in my pay check on!)
I gotta imagine that real take home is less with heathcare costs rising so dramatically in the last decade
hardly life changing, but going in a direction that would hurt Dem's chances
That just shows how out of touch you are in your DC bubble if you discount an extra grand a year for low income workers ..it can be the difference between make or breakSo you cherry picked there...as I addressed that and stated that the actual take home pay may actually be LESS due to healthcare costs, but sometimes that hard to see as it's not on your paycheck
Everybody is benefiting from this economy and you better believe voters will credit the President
Quotehonestly this amounts to less than $1000 per year for most of these workers (who-hoo, what am I going to spend that extra $40 in my pay check on!)
I gotta imagine that real take home is less with heathcare costs rising so dramatically in the last decade
hardly life changing, but going in a direction that would hurt Dem's chancesThat just shows how out of touch you are in your DC bubble if you discount an extra grand a year for low income workers ..it can be the difference between make or breakSo you cherry picked there...as I addressed that and stated that the actual take home pay may actually be LESS due to healthcare costs, but sometimes that hard to see as it's not on your paycheck
Everybody is benefiting from this economy and you better believe voters will credit the President
I'm not discounting that $1000 more means something to someone on the bottom...when you put it like that. But if you told them they were getting a $4 a day wage increase, but their heathcare costs are going up $5 a day...do you think they'd be excited?
These people on the bottom rarely get employer paid heathcare, so they roll the dice with crappy plans or no plan at all...typically turns out bad
but that is hard to fit this concept into 140 character tweet
I think the dems have to come up with a easy way to understand how they will impact people's heath care costs. it's becoming the largest line item on most poor families budget
But of course Bernie is not a democrat so he wants to set the party on fire.that I agree with
I am sure many lower income people have higher income even after rising health care costs...Americans have gotten $0.01 more in bonuses since Trump's tax cuts (https://www.axios.com/trump-tax-cuts-american-workers-bonuses-da262033-9c22-4243-9360-4b8fbf91ca58.html)
exemplary presidency
Fake news?works for Trump...but his base believes everything he says
I may have to retire from this boarddang joe...can't take the heat, not sure you're a good fit for the job
I may have to retire from this board
But of course Bernie is not a democrat so he wants to set the party on fire.
I was shocked to hear that he represents a portion of Julian's America with all the gerrymandering going onIts a real problem. As a compromise in the Julian's America Senate, we had to agree to annex Texas Oil Money to offset our annexation of the Maldives. The Eurocentric portion of JA was worried Asia was getting too large of a voting block.
I was shocked to hear that he represents a portion of Julian's America with all the gerrymandering going onIts a real problem. As a compromise in the Julian's America Senate, we had to agree to annex Texas Oil Money to offset our annexation of the Maldives. The Eurocentric portion of JA was worried Asia was getting too large of a voting block.
Joe...the right can't seem to stop talking about Huntergood news joe.
...and some not so kosher international dealings in the Ukraine and china....what say you about these allegations
I just got to say man that spreading far right conspiracy theory talking points in the first place is not a good look for youthis Ukraine thing 'appeared' to have some legs at first glance
Have we learned nothing from the Bernie supporters that on the last go around told us Hillary and Trump were the same? How did that turn out? Just look at the Supreme Court justices that would have been liberal and think about how different America will be because of all the bullshit Bernie and his people peddled about Hillary
I think like 12% of Bernie supporters voted for Trump vs. like 24% of HRC voters that voted for McCain instead of Obama and he still fucking won!Have we learned nothing from the Bernie supporters that on the last go around told us Hillary and Trump were the same? How did that turn out? Just look at the Supreme Court justices that would have been liberal and think about how different America will be because of all the bullshit Bernie and his people peddled about Hillary
I think like 12% of Bernie supporters voted for Trump vs. like 24% of HRC voters that voted for McCain instead of Obama and he still fucking won!Have we learned nothing from the Bernie supporters that on the last go around told us Hillary and Trump were the same? How did that turn out? Just look at the Supreme Court justices that would have been liberal and think about how different America will be because of all the bullshit Bernie and his people peddled about Hillary
24% of Hillary supporters voted for McCain rather than Obama?
I call bullshit.
boring post that's too long and boring
but how many times did we hear they were the same before the presidential election?Let's get this out of the way ...ZERO people on the board felt that way in November of 2016 (I can't speak for NKOTB)
I am bored but I don’t understand the desire to blame Hillary for her loss...it was her race to lose, that voters were swayed by comey or bernie, maybe, but her campaign should have tried harder...I don't know what the solution was...but she spent $1.2 Billion (https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/) (and yes I will conced, she probably would have had closer to 1.5 bill if sanders had dropped out in February...but that's not what happened)
but ran a terrible campaignI never said that, but proof is in the pudding
she lost in a huge upset cause the TV talking Heads told you she was winning and you assumed she wouldThis I think is the crux of my argument...people thought she would win, so the didn't feel the need to put the jacket on and wait in line, what's the point, she's a shoo in
I am sorry but you have just bought into conventional idiocy...why does it always have to end up with and insult to the other person
Let's get this out of the way ...ZERO people on the board felt that way in November of 2016 (I can't speak for NKOTB)
I am bored but I don’t understand the desire to blame Hillary for her loss...blame the voters or Comey but she did her part...trouncing Trump in the debates...running a fairly tight campaign with many fewer mistakes than trump’s which was a shit show...he went through like 3 campaign managers...and then when Comey reopens the investigation the polls shifted and she knew it which is why she closed in PA
She lost by very few votes and won the popular vote by three million
the fact that she's tied to Bill's bad record, etc.Bill Clinton had the best Presidency of my lifetime and top 3-5 all time. He literally teabags Obama by every measure except how he made millennials feel as he passed virtually none of his agenda.
Bill Clinton had the best Presidency of my lifetime and top 3-5 all time.well I guess there is room on Mt Rushmore then...that's a bit hyperbolic IMO
He literally teabags Obama by every measure except how he made millennials feel as he passed virtually none of his agenda.I really don't know if the first part is true, but don't have the facts to back my argument
Still, I do genuinely think ... in the long run she'd wind up being worse.dude, please pass that joint, because you are high as shit if you believe that...definitely helping Hutch's case with that argument
But if we had another 4 years of bloodless corporate liberalism, I really think that whatever came AFTER would be way worse than Trump.
Still, I do genuinely think ... in the long run she'd wind up being worse.dude, please pass that joint, but you are high as shit if you believe that...definitely helping Hutch's case with that argument
But if we had another 4 years of bloodless corporate liberalism, I really think that whatever came AFTER would be way worse than Trump.
This worries me. ... but there is certainly a lot of testing the waters shit going down. How much will people take?I really don't think that anyone in the Dem heirichy is thinking of using Trump's facist model...so not sure where you are going with that
There was outrageumm...isn't this what 2020 is all about. I'm coming to the opinion that protesting in the streets doesn't do crap. Problem is now there are SOO many things we're up in arms about their could be a protest every day and we'd still be missing things that are getting destroyed by team trump
we're disgusted
no one is storming the gates.
it's still happening.
People are going to be more and more willing to accept fascist scaremongering and demonization of "others" if they're not given a better alternative, and I don't think HRC and her ilk are that.So again...you are pretty much sealing Hutch's case here and I cannot back your stance on this
So again...you are pretty much sealing Hutch's case here and I cannot back your stance on this
Just because the GOP has been overtaken by Team Trump...doesn't mean that any Democrat...including Biden, has any intention on going the fascist route
are any of the 21 candidates doing fascist scaremongering and demonization of "others" (well we do need to get better about complaining about the Trump Voter...as that's not going to help our case...see the deplorables incident)
they'll be more and more willing to accept classism, racism, xenophobia to win over these mythical Republicans on the fence about Trump.this statement...
Booty-Judge
(it's from Dan Savage's site)
they'll be more and more willing to accept classism, racism, xenophobia to win over these mythical Republicans on the fence about Trump.this statement...
I don't think any candidate is running on "classism, racism, xenophobia"
even remotely
but the GOP is....so if they American voter likes those things...well then we are screwed
also, I don't think we'll ever get Republicans (unless this whole presidency goes down Nixon style)...but it's the independent voter is the vote we want.
full on Republicans and those who lean...don't even make up 40% of the poulation
we need to reach out to those people and not worry about getting the Trump voter to turn based on some bombshell news story
(https://www.people-press.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2019/03/PP_2019.03.14_Independents_0-01-1.png)
there are maybe like 3 actual Never Trump Republicans out there in total.lets be clear...these are elected officials who will do anything to keep their job...not voters
Get those unmotivated voters and independents...I mean, those are the folks that came out for Obama's "hope and change" and then bailed when it turned out to not be true.So we are now smearing BO's time in office too, yikes
^so again with the pointing guns at your own team....but I'm starting to think you are on the 'destroy the Democratic party team'
staff on campaigns are historically underpaid (if paid at all) and overworked...and I don't have a problem with that
totally disagree and equating kids in factories to campaign staffers is insanestaff on campaigns are historically underpaid (if paid at all) and overworked...and I don't have a problem with that
Well, historically kids could work in factories, but that was a bummer and people changed it. I can't really accept that staffers get underpaid or not paid at all. That's garbage and if a candidate does it, I think it speaks volumes to their actual beliefs.
there are maybe like 3 actual Never Trump Republicans out there in total.lets be clear...these are elected officials who will do anything to keep their job...not voters
elected officials are voters, too. a vote is a vote.
So Goul-iani is making a special trip to the Ukraine to 'get to the bottom of this'Joe...the right can't seem to stop talking about Huntergood news joe.
...and some not so kosher international dealings in the Ukraine and china....what say you about these allegations
Ukrainian official knocks down Biden conflict scandal promoted by Rudy Giuliani (https://www.axios.com/ukraine-biden-rudy-giuliani-new-york-times-3e655e72-5612-46eb-92db-040b9e2ec43a.html)
I love how trump was spinning this
Trump himself said on Fox News: "Sure, I’m hearing it’s a major scandal, major problem. I hope for him it is fake news. I don’t think it is."
the Ukraine
Ukraine is game to you!?I was getting ready to put the gif of them on the train playing risk
TAN: usually i have my lawyer take care of these things, but i believe he's out today so: please don't call it "The Ukraine" (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/03/25/ukraine-or-the-ukraine-its-more-controversial-than-you-think/). it's just "Ukraine (http://time.com/12597/the-ukraine-or-ukraine/)".
that The Sidehätch to you buddy!TAN: usually i have my lawyer take care of these things, but i believe he's out today so: please don't call it "The Ukraine" (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/03/25/ukraine-or-the-ukraine-its-more-controversial-than-you-think/). it's just "Ukraine (http://time.com/12597/the-ukraine-or-ukraine/)".
Off to The Siberia for Sidehatch....
TAN: usually i have my lawyer take care of these things, but i believe he's out today so: please don't call it "The Ukraine" (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/03/25/ukraine-or-the-ukraine-its-more-controversial-than-you-think/). it's just "Ukraine (http://time.com/12597/the-ukraine-or-ukraine/)".
Off to The Siberia for Sidehatch....
i have no further comment at this time.
Folks if you think anyone can defeat Trump with this economy you are living in fantasy land. Imagine five more quarters of 3% growth and millions more jobs created....
I sure hope I can pull that off that kind of wipe out and recovery when I'm 66
https://twitter.com/SomeonesAnIdiot/status/1126953461160001537
This is what the 66 yr old is in ref toohttps://twitter.com/SomeonesAnIdiot/status/1126953461160001537
DEMOCRATS>>>FOCUS ON GETTING THE MESSAGE OUT>>>these voters want what you are proposing...just not from you?!
from Axios (https://www.axios.com/focus-group-trump-supporters-like-liberal-proposals-but-still-love-trump-66518863-c821-49ea-bab5-226c0b013de1.html)...
Some of President Trump's supporters in Sioux City, Iowa love liberal populist proposals. They just don't love the 2020 Democrats as the messengers.
A focus group of swing voters — all of whom voted for Trump in 2016 — strongly supported a student loan debt plan that would cancel up to $50,000 in student debt for people whose families make less than $100,000 per year.
They also want to tax American corporations, specifically big banks, to pay for Trump's infrastructure plans.
All but one said they would re-elect Trump if it were him versus Hillary Clinton again.
suggests that Warren's own policies are more popular with these voters than she is, given that the voters were skeptical of the entire Democratic field.
Taxing big banks was the most popular idea to pay for infrastructure, beating out an increase in the federal gas tax or borrowing money from other countries.
They're not excited about any of the 2020 Democrats running for president, and they only really recognized Warren, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders.
The economy was the issue that came up the most ... no one said they've seen an increase in their own wages or financial situation.
as I said, the numbers in the news makes it sound like everyone is livin' the high life now that trump fixed the economy...but most low/middle class Americans are not reaping the benefits of this great economy (but the billionaires and corps certainly are)
Unfortunately, we get what they deserve too.tru dat! {deleted}
Unfortunately, we get what they deserve too.
All but one said they would re-elect Trump if it were him versus Hillary Clinton again.
suggests that Warren's own policies are more popular with these voters than she is,
All but one said they would re-elect Trump if it were him versus Hillary Clinton again.
suggests that Warren's own policies are more popular with these voters than she is,
so they're saying they're not ready for a female president?
But of course people at this point can't see beyond Bernie and Biden.We can see all the way to Buttigieg. We're single letter voters.
But of course people at this point can't see beyond Bernie and Biden.We can see all the way to Buttigieg. We're single letter voters.
Beto is still in the alliterative mix.But of course people at this point can't see beyond Bernie and Biden.We can see all the way to Buttigieg. We're single letter voters.
Though it does seem like we've lost sight of Cory and O'Rourke.
Beto is still in the alliterative mix.But of course people at this point can't see beyond Bernie and Biden.We can see all the way to Buttigieg. We're single letter voters.
Though it does seem like we've lost sight of Cory and O'Rourke.
All but one said they would re-elect Trump if it were him versus Hillary Clinton again.
suggests that Warren's own policies are more popular with these voters than she is,
so they're saying they're not ready for a female president?
Let's face it. There have been three tickets with women on them and they all lost. I think Nikki Haley has a better chance of being the first female president than any Democrat women.
I like this guy. But of course people at this point can't see beyond Bernie and Biden.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/politics/steve-bullock-president-2020/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/politics/steve-bullock-president-2020/index.html)
the thing about Montana Gov. Steve Bullock ...is he is a Democrat gov that won in a red state the same election that Trump won....so there is a draw to find someone who can pull in the redish vote and still be a demI like this guy. But of course people at this point can't see beyond Bernie and Biden.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/politics/steve-bullock-president-2020/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/politics/steve-bullock-president-2020/index.html)
i had never heard of this guy before this morning. i fear that he's DOA (even if his name starts with a B).
Not sure I can stick to it, but my new stance is I won't vote for the dominate "B" majority and plan on supporting anyone who does not have a B in their name
there is already a logo out thereNot sure I can stick to it, but my new stance is I won't vote for the dominate "B" majority and plan on supporting anyone who does not have a B in their name
that's woke AF, brah. fight the power.
But, Sidehatch, will you see a band without a cis-female member?Not sure I can stick to it, but my new stance is I won't vote for the dominate "B" majority and plan on supporting anyone who does not have a B in their name
that's woke AF, brah. fight the power.
does it count if she works the merch table?But, Sidehatch, will you see a band without a cis-female member?Not sure I can stick to it, but my new stance is I won't vote for the dominate "B" majority and plan on supporting anyone who does not have a B in their name
that's woke AF, brah. fight the power.
Depends — is she being paid a living wage and do her benefits comply with the Patient Protection & Affordable Care Act? What is the written procedure for reporting harassment claims at the merch table? #VirtueSignallingdoes it count if she works the merch table?But, Sidehatch, will you see a band without a cis-female member?Not sure I can stick to it, but my new stance is I won't vote for the dominate "B" majority and plan on supporting anyone who does not have a B in their name
that's woke AF, brah. fight the power.
Ok this is getting complicated....since bands are essentially homeless (living out of their van) and not even a resident of a state...how do you determine a 'living wage'does it count if she works the merch table?Depends — is she being paid a living wage and do her benefits comply with the Patient Protection & Affordable Care Act? What is the written procedure for reporting harassment claims at the merch table? #VirtueSignalling
beth...come on now...you got to reach out to those who are not aware of your message. Huffpost won't win ya the primaries
Elizabeth Warren rejects Fox News town hall invite, slams network's 'hate-for-profit' model (https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/14/politics/elizabeth-warren-fox-news-town-hall/index.html)
I disagree...I think its essential to go on fox. It allows the candidate to set the narrative and not fox
anchors. If they can't take the heat from Fox...then get out of the funkin' kitchen
Bernie made Fox look kind of stupid when most of the studio audience agreed with him
There are a lot of people that live in 'Trump/fox' households where Fox is on 24/7 and they hear all that crap all day long, I hope that just a small sliver of those people (who don't control the remote) see what the dems are really saying and not how fox spins it
Who knows, maybe a waste of time...but it's free press, jez how could you turn that up
Now if it was the Daily Stormer or ISIS-TV...I'd recommend avoiding
Unless the candidate condemns abortion as baby-killing, nothing else they say matters.this is appearing to be THE wedge issue in the south right now
The China move sealed it for TrumpI think the china move may be a short term disaster on the economy...but I only play an economist on the internet...
I doubt it....
But regardless surely you see how he has given his base every single thing he promised?
He is the first modern US President to actually take on China on trade.
Why would someone who voted for Trump in 2016 not vote for him in 2020?
Think about it
The China move sealed it for Trump
Polls are a joke
new rule: if any more Dems announce their candidacy, they have to play "yakety sax (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ)" while climbing out of a clown car.yes that is the proper name of that song...but I think we can all agree that it's the 'Benny Hill Theme song' and give the show/man some props to making this song a part of the cannon of modern music ;)
I asked my wife what she though about Warren not going on Fox and she said "She should do it. Bernie did it."
Doesn't Warren run the risk of being HRC 2.0 by snubbing "the deplorables?"
Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage...So you make a good point on this
I asked my wife what she though about Warren not going on Fox and she said "She should do it. Bernie did it."
Doesn't Warren run the risk of being HRC 2.0 by snubbing "the deplorables?"
Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage...
Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage...So you make a good point on this
but I kinda feel like we also need to act a little like we are in the general and not drive so hard to sell to our base, but appeal to those on the outside edge of the base that might consider selecting D in nov 2020
(because everyone is paying attention to the dems even if they are not planning on voting for them)
I think there are a lot of people who have been voting republican against their own interest and just sucked in by the culture war
Maybe if we try to rise above the culture war (HA!) and part of this election should be to gently show them that we are looking out for them
Huh? We are at the primaries not general stage...So you make a good point on this
but I kinda feel like we also need to act a little like we are in the general and not drive so hard to sell to our base, but appeal to those on the outside edge of the base that might consider selecting D in nov 2020
(because everyone is paying attention to the dems even if they are not planning on voting for them)
I think there are a lot of people who have been voting republican against their own interest and just sucked in by the culture war
Maybe if we try to rise above the culture war (HA!) and part of this election should be to gently show them that we are looking out for them
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_WUyZXhLHMk
“Biden Dirty” needs to become a thing. I don’t know what that thing is — a never-Biden cry by the progressive wing, an urban get-out-The-vote campaign by Biden’s team, something else entire — but someone needs to grab this an run with it.
...voter turnout has always been THE issue (to me)
good to see astronaut Mark Kelly may make AZ 2-D state!I knew he was Gabby Gifford's husband (this is in fact the only reason I was aware who he was pre-running for office) but was unaware he was Scott Kelly's bro. I am also unaware who Scott Kelly is. (I mean, obviously aside from him being Mark Kelly's bro.)
Knew he was Scott Kelly's bro...but had no idea he was married to Gabby Giffords
I am also unaware who Scott Kelly is.In 2015, he set the record for the single longest space mission (342 days) by an American* astronaut
So he's a dude who came in second. Wishing better for his bro, Mark, husband of Gabby, first of his name.
Surprised to see Julian in the top 10FOR THE FUTURE gets closer every day.
The DNC announced on Wednesday that it would double the requirements for candidates to reach the 2020 debate stage in September
After the first round of June and July debates, candidates will need to obtain 2% support in four approved polls over the summer and obtain contributions from at least 130,000 donors before Aug. 28 to qualify for the second debate round.
I noticed Gillibrand may not make it to the June stage...not sure what other big players might get dropped by a technical foul
Isn't the real headline out of this that Gillibrand isn't really a big player? You cannot you be a big player if you cannot get support and raise money.I 100% agree...she looked like a contender early on when there were only 5 people running
Isn't the real headline out of this that Gillibrand isn't really a big player? You cannot you be a big player if you cannot get support and raise money.I 100% agree...she looked like a contender early on when there were only 5 people running
heck I think Gravel has more support
Was never a big fan to begin with
I actually think pushing Franken off the boat was the best thing she's ever done.Would like to hear more about this...
I wholeheartedly agree with gavroche and would love to see Julian name her his VP nominee (for the future).I actually think pushing Franken off the boat was the best thing she's ever done.Would like to hear more about this...
I wholeheartedly agree with gavroche and would love to see Julian name her his VP nominee (for the future).I actually think pushing Franken off the boat was the best thing she's ever done.Would like to hear more about this...
Until you said it that way and I did more research...I kind of agreeThis is why I dislike her, she's a longterm moderate who decided to tack left but it just hasn't felt natural for her.I actually think pushing Franken off the boat was the best thing she's ever done.Would like to hear more about this...
We cannot have any tolerance for sexual harassment. Mock groping a sleeping woman, even as a joke, is not ok and there were pictures.So I don't know what the middle ground is here. I just get concerned of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
The long term moral erosion from keeping him was too high. Minor harassment cannot be excusedI don't think it should be excused, but not sure the punishment fits the crime
I think the Northam Virginia thing .... The Dems will keep the Governorship in the short term, but I think it is going to have long term corrosive impact for the whole party, and hurt their chances of taking back the VA House and Senate.I don't know if I agree with this...although not sure
Until you said it that way and I did more research...I kind of agreeThis is why I dislike her, she's a longterm moderate who decided to tack left but it just hasn't felt natural for her.I actually think pushing Franken off the boat was the best thing she's ever done.Would like to hear more about this...
when I saw she got an A from the NRA was about all I needed to knowQuoteWe cannot have any tolerance for sexual harassment. Mock groping a sleeping woman, even as a joke, is not ok and there were pictures.So I don't know what the middle ground is here. I just get concerned of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
I assume that your stance is there is no reconciliation for past bad behavior
I too struggle with this, but I felt his 'crimes' were pretty low level...but still offensive none the less...QuoteThe long term moral erosion from keeping him was too high. Minor harassment cannot be excusedI don't think it should be excused, but not sure the punishment fits the crime
but you do have to take a stand at some point and say harassment is harassment and it has to stop.QuoteI think the Northam Virginia thing .... The Dems will keep the Governorship in the short term, but I think it is going to have long term corrosive impact for the whole party, and hurt their chances of taking back the VA House and Senate.I don't know if I agree with this...although not sure
I really didn't think he'd survive that and he's out there getting shit done
stuff I'm glad he's there doing
"signs law to remove autism health coverage age cap"
"Northam vetoed a bill that would have allowed the General Assembly to redraw legislative districts, apart from the redistricting process in the year following the census."
I'm hoping to see one where he gets his pledge to make community college free for VA residents too
The good thing for him is that VA is a one term Governorship...so he won't have to run for reelection
Will it hurt the Dems chances to take the house...I'm not sure
I think he has had a very documented history of doing things for the African American community and I think they will remember that
He definitely fumbled the response, but I'm glad he didn't resign
Just means he's going to have to do a lot more for the AA community and that's not a bad thing
I really don’t get the point of targeting Fox watchersUpcoming Dem candidates on Fox town halls....little last gasp-y
First of all it’s rather weak and pathetic...target them in the presidential debates or anywhere else...Fox is the enemy period...the sooner we get that the better
You make my point...only weak candidatesthat was part of my point
Huh? Bern is getting clobberedhe's still #2 by a long shot...with 22 people eating lots of his dust
In somewhat good newsLooks like I was being optimistic that a Dem gov would sign this :(
...looks like Nevada is just a signature away from adding it's 6 votes to the National Popular Vote interstate compact
and Felons...although he did give 70k felons the right to vote in the same day!
...Fox is the enemy period...the sooner we get that the betterNice one slate!
So I don't know what the middle ground is here. I just get concerned of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
I assume that your stance is there is no reconciliation for past bad behavior
I too struggle with this, but I felt his 'crimes' were pretty low level...but still offensive none the less...
Will it hurt the Dems chances to take the house...I'm not sure
I think he has had a very documented history of doing things for the African American community and I think they will remember that
Who would Beto lose to this time?John Cornyn
Who would Beto lose to this time?John Cornyn
And he did lose, but was a nail biter for a state that is DEEP Red
Ted Cruz 4,260,553 50.89%
Beto O'Rourke 4,045,632 48.33%
200k in 8mill is pretty close
now he's got the name recognition too
So I think he has a better chance at being a senator than being the next Dem
Yeah, it's staggering to me that Beto took this leap. I'm sure he had a lot of establishment folks in his ear about it (I think those Pod Save dip shits really backed him...their production company even produced that Running with Beto thing on HBO), but to blindly assume the momentum of running against a toad like Cruz would translate to a presidential run seems like such a bad miscalculation.
Yeah, it's staggering to me that Beto took this leap. I'm sure he had a lot of establishment folks in his ear about it (I think those Pod Save dip shits really backed him...their production company even produced that Running with Beto thing on HBO), but to blindly assume the momentum of running against a toad like Cruz would translate to a presidential run seems like such a bad miscalculation.
He did raise a Significant amount of money from outside of texas (like $25Mil)
My mom (FL/NY) and I know an number of people here in the DC are who supported his senate run
Now mostly because they hate Cruz, but he's got the kind of charisma we need in a presidential candidate
But I think he should WIN a senate seat first or Govnership...then run in 2028 or 2032
(he's all style and zero substance IMO),It worked for Barack Obama.
sounds like we agree....
(he's all style and zero substance IMO),It worked for Barack Obama.
Beto isn't really my cup of tea (he's all style and zero substance IMO), but obviously I'd support him against Cruz. You couldn't ask for a better race to gain national attention...young, good-looking, punk rock-loving dude clearly ripping off Obama vs. loathsome melted gargoyle. It's not wonder everyone was invested in him.
But transitioning immediately from a loss to a presidential run seems like it would only hurt you long-term, where as staying local and winning would just build the brand.Yeah, it's staggering to me that Beto took this leap. I'm sure he had a lot of establishment folks in his ear about it (I think those Pod Save dip shits really backed him...their production company even produced that Running with Beto thing on HBO), but to blindly assume the momentum of running against a toad like Cruz would translate to a presidential run seems like such a bad miscalculation.
He did raise a Significant amount of money from outside of texas (like $25Mil)
My mom (FL/NY) and I know an number of people here in the DC are who supported his senate run
Now mostly because they hate Cruz, but he's got the kind of charisma we need in a presidential candidate
But I think he should WIN a senate seat first or Govnership...then run in 2028 or 2032
Problem for Beto is that he is from Texas and so he has nowhere local to go. The Ted Cruz race was his best chance to win statewide. Everyone hates Ted Cruz (even his Republican colleagues). He raised a ton of money in 2018, but coming off a loss and in a Presidential race he's not going to get the same support. Plus the longer he's in government the more he gets defined and the more he angers people. I feel like his moment is now or never (and it just might be never).which is an easier win?
100% agree with gavroche. What else is he going to do?
at least he's got a plan B if this politics thing doesn't work out100% agree with gavroche. What else is he going to do?
Front a Ramones cover band while wearing a onesie and a sheep mask.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hV7h1DuotU
at least he's got a plan B if this politics thing doesn't work out100% agree with gavroche. What else is he going to do?
Front a Ramones cover band while wearing a onesie and a sheep mask.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hV7h1DuotU
Democrats have not won statewide in Texas in 25 years.[/i]
Are we catching up on our weekend Economist reading in this thread?I've become a full-on Axios junkie
Are we catching up on our weekend Economist reading in this thread?
The Senate, the Senate
Democrats running for president are selling plans to transform America (https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/06/06/democrats-running-for-president-are-selling-plans-to-transform-america)
The Senate is likely to render them mere pipe-dreamsDemocrats have not won statewide in Texas in 25 years.[/i]
True. But they did pick up 2 state Senate seats and 12 seats in the State House in a midterm election where turnout generally favors Republicans.
My sense is that Trump being on the ballot will help R's in Texas in 2020; but that's just my gut.you are a very sense-itive person I see :)
my sense is that Cornyn is a stronger candidate than Cruz.
My sense is that Trump being on the ballot will help R's in Texas in 2020; but that's just my gut.you are a very sense-itive person I see :)
my sense is that Cornyn is a stronger candidate than Cruz.
although I want to believe different...you nailed it on #1
#2...hard to say. I really don't know how the avg Texan thinks of Cruz...sounds like they are split, but he had enough of a base to deliver the mid-term election.
I don't really know how anyone can like Cruz, but alas he has a deep base. Was #3 or 4 in the 2016 republican primary too
Cornyn....he seems like a texan's texan and will be hard to unseat that incumbent
but Beto proved he can turn out the vote, I think if he's on the ticket and can really energize Dems to come to the polls...could also be a game changer on who TX picks for pres....but I'm not holding my breath
Just found this from feb
Cornyn less popular than Cruz in Texas: poll (https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/431645-cornyn-less-popular-than-cruz-in-texas-poll)
I think the DNC is really liking MJ Hegar
Military women seem to be like a wining strategy and I can't really argue with that
I think the DNC is really liking MJ Hegar
Military women seem to be like a wining strategy and I can't really argue with that
Eric Swalwell: "Caught Up in the Country," Rodney Atkins
never heard that before, but sounds like what AI would do if it was asked to create a Nash-vegas song
Eric Swalwell: "Caught Up in the Country," Rodney Atkins
I have no idea why Swalwell thinks he can pull this off.
And Mayor Pete's pick seems kind of edgy to me.
Eric Swalwell: "Caught Up in the Country," Rodney Atkins
I have no idea why Swalwell thinks he can pull this off.
And Mayor Pete's pick seems kind of edgy to me.
Steve Bullock: "Small Town," John Mellencamp
Tulsi Gabbard: "Ain't No Mountain High Enough," Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell
Tim Ryan: "Old Town Road," Lil Nas X feat. Billy Ray Cyrus
Elizabeth Warren: "9 to 5," Dolly Parton
You are all wrong about "Old Town Road"
You are all wrong about "Old Town Road"
Funny I was going the other way of thinking and he should’ve done Patti Smith's people have the power
And of course Bernie picking the Lennon Power to the People says everything about him. If he'd picked Curtis Mayfield I think the signal would have been better (and yes, I realize this is Iowa)
I think you have been called out and I'm interested in your response.You are all wrong about "Old Town Road"Make your case.
I think you have been called out and I'm interested in your response.
Trump has convinced 40% of the country that his lies are true... so it's not inconceivable that you could change my mind about
"Old Town Road." Make your case.
If this doesn’t change your mind, nothing will:
https://www.switchedonpop.com/no-country-for-old-town-road/
Trump has convinced 40% of the country that they don't need to care about his lies...
I get that and I'm impressed by the non-musical aspectIf this doesn’t change your mind, nothing will:
https://www.switchedonpop.com/no-country-for-old-town-road/
I'm on the road and will give this a listen, until thenthis article (https://www.theringer.com/music/2019/4/8/18299972/old-town-road-lil-nas-x-billy-ray-cyrus-remix-number-one-charts-country-rap) sums up most of my thoughts.
It bucks all traditions, from how it was made, how it was marketed, how it was released, how its video was made and distributed, its viral aspects, and so on. It's an insanely catchy ditty made by a nineteen year old kid at home that nobody can put in a box, pissed everybody off and it's ABSOLUTELY fucking outlaw brilliant.
19 Democratic candidates visited the Iowa Democratic Party's Hall of Fame yesterday to deliver a five-minute campaign pitch to a throng of state party activists — and they hit the stage with a walk-out song of their own choosing,now this is a funny response...what songs should the candidates NOT come out to
If this doesn’t change your mind, nothing will:
https://www.switchedonpop.com/no-country-for-old-town-road/
I'm on the road and will give this a listen, until thenthis article (https://www.theringer.com/music/2019/4/8/18299972/old-town-road-lil-nas-x-billy-ray-cyrus-remix-number-one-charts-country-rap) sums up most of my thoughts.
It bucks all traditions, from how it was made, how it was marketed, how it was released, how its video was made and distributed, its viral aspects, and so on. It's an insanely catchy ditty made by a nineteen year old kid at home that nobody can put in a box, pissed everybody off and it's ABSOLUTELY fucking outlaw brilliant.
I'm halfway through this podcast excontradiction, and loving it. Thanks for the share.
You're all welcome.so modest, not sure why you aren't going to be on the debate stage in a few weeks
I know I'm voting to cure cancer: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-cancer-cure-elected-president_n_5cfffb9de4b075510398e1d6the last note in the article is required reading for those claiming to 'cure cancer'
I know I'm voting to cure cancer: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-cancer-cure-elected-president_n_5cfffb9de4b075510398e1d6
Ok...we got Oregon...Maine is looking good...still a little pissed at NV Governor Steve SleestakGood news people....only 89 more electoral college votes to go to make this a reality
I'm really hoping https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/ has some wins before 2020...
The National Popular Vote interstate compact would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
of course TX, FL, IA and OH aren't even considering this...but we can always hope
I know I'm voting to cure cancer: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-cancer-cure-elected-president_n_5cfffb9de4b075510398e1d6
Wife: "Joe Biden needs to suck dick and go away, and let Bernie win."
Kid: "What? Joe Biden is gay?"
Wife: "Joe Biden needs to suck dick and go away, and let Bernie win."
so modest, not sure why you aren't going to be on the debate stage in a few weeks
Those who did not meet the threshold for the first debate include: Montana Gov. Steve Bullock; former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel; Miramar, Florida Mayor Wayne Messam; and Rep. Seth Moulton of Massachusetts.
June 26 lineup: Cory Booker, Julián Castro, John Delaney, Bill de Blasio, Tulsi Gabbard, Jay Inslee, Amy Klobuchar, Beto O’Rourke, Tim Ryan, Elizabeth Warren
June 27 lineup: Michael Bennet, Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg, Kirsten Gillibrand, Kamala Harris, John Hickenlooper, Bernie Sanders, Eric Swalwell, Marianne Williamson
Those who did not meet the threshold for the first debate include: Montana Gov. Steve Bullock; former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel; Miramar, Florida Mayor Wayne Messam; and Rep. Seth Moulton of Massachusetts.
Gotta admit that I'm deeply disappointed that Mike Gravel didn't make the stage: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/06/magazine/mike-gravel-teens-twitter-presidential-campaign.html
I'd trade in Swalwell any day (I still miss you "Pete" Stark)!
What network(s) is this going to be on and what time Aloha time? We don't normally have cable, but we might on vacation. That's assuming I can tear myself away from watching Steph Curry's new mini golf show.
Also interesting to put Bernie and Warren on separate nights initially. They're the only two substantially different from the mob IMO...and would probably wind up agreeing more than disagreeing. It'll be nice to have them push back on the centrist, corporate friendly folks right off the bat.
Also interesting to put Bernie and Warren on separate nights initially. They're the only two substantially different from the mob IMO...and would probably wind up agreeing more than disagreeing. It'll be nice to have them push back on the centrist, corporate friendly folks right off the bat.
Before the conspiracy theories start, it was by lottery and made certain that those with above 2% were equally distributed across the two nights with those with less. Representatives from all candidates were present.
I assume this is at Mitch...but don't know the details
here we go pointing our guns at each other
Hard to have been in the senate in the early 70s and not work with an outright racist in order to make compromises
My prediction is Joe is not long for this race
he has waaay too much baggage from a generation ago that the new left despises and are going to continue to point out every chance they or some dem-bro points out on twitter
I don't agree with Hutch that Joe is our only way to take PA/MI
I think plenty of these candidates can have support in the rust belt...just be wary of going too far left is my opnion
We should definitely point our (figurative, folks!) guns at Joe Biden.Why...wouldn't it just be better to appeal to the voters that you (insert candidate) are the right choice
We should definitely point our (figurative, folks!) guns at Joe Biden.Why...wouldn't it just be better to appeal to the voters that you (insert candidate) are the right choice
we don't have to play by the GOP playbook
I really think the Dem primary should be ranked choice
as a lot of people are convinced the 'safe bet' is biden and won't vote for who they really want
We should definitely point our (figurative, folks!) guns at Joe Biden.I'm glad Julian's America died after writing an article where I said if DFA1979 ever tried to cross the boarder into Julian's America, our guards would shoot him onside so that years later nkotb would have the wherewithal to clarify he doesn't actually want someone to assassinate Joe Biden.
But personally, I'd prefer the DNC learn a lesson from 2016, but so far, it doesn't seem to be the case. I mean, hell...a lot of these folks have bad ideas IMO, but at least they don't have the baggage or sexist/racist gaffes Joe does. That's a recipe for disaster.
But personally, I'd prefer the DNC learn a lesson from 2016, but so far, it doesn't seem to be the case. I mean, hell...a lot of these folks have bad ideas IMO, but at least they don't have the baggage or sexist/racist gaffes Joe does. That's a recipe for disaster.
Yes! Fuck the DNC! The real enemy!
Definitely not that guy in the White House!
seriously this is my pointBut personally, I'd prefer the DNC learn a lesson from 2016, but so far, it doesn't seem to be the case. I mean, hell...a lot of these folks have bad ideas IMO, but at least they don't have the baggage or sexist/racist gaffes Joe does. That's a recipe for disaster.
Yes! Fuck the DNC! The real enemy!
Definitely not that guy in the White House!
I'm probably 85% certain I'll vote for whoever wins the nominationyikes dude, there is not a single D (well gravel and maybe manchin) that is worse that Trump
I don't think they've really acknowledged how much responsibility they have for how bad things are.
I don't know man...I think there is a demand for thisso modest, not sure why you aren't going to be on the debate stage in a few weeks
There is no room in either party for a pragmatic centrist with socially liberal stances, matched with fiscal conservatism.
I'm probably 85% certain I'll vote for whoever wins the nominationyikes dude, there is not a single D (well gravel and maybe manchin) that is worse that Trump
I don't think they've really acknowledged how much responsibility they have for how bad things are.
you have to have the power to make change (internally as well)
but that you would not vote or vote for trump because you didn't get the perfect dem is pure insanity
stop smoking crack during the work day
Half-measures here are the same as climate denial at this point.agree, but my feeling is ...get this shit done once we have regained the Exec and hopefully the senate
Half-measures here are the same as climate denial at this point.
Like it or not...the undecideds get to decide these elections and in the end we need to make sure they vote and vote D
I'm sure you have more intimate knowledge on this topic than I...but 2016 was decided by the undecidedHalf-measures here are the same as climate denial at this point.
Like it or not...the undecideds get to decide these elections and in the end we need to make sure they vote and vote D
This is a debatable statement. The R's definitely don't think so, or they wouldn't be working so hard to suppress voters. Trump certainly hasn't been playing to the undecided either.
Do you know who doesn't use the ballot box as a protest vote?
Republicans. That's how they got George W. Bush and Donald Trump.
I didn't watch...heard the surprised look on Cory's face was the best thing of the nightHeres the rundown: the JULIANs killed it, Cory Booker looked surprised, other people were not named Julián.
thanks for the summary now I don't have to waste my time finding it on youtube or whateverI didn't watch...heard the surprised look on Cory's face was the best thing of the nightHeres the rundown: the JULIANs killed it, Cory Booker looked surprised, other people were not named Julián.
I mean Beto was also there and displayed no understanding on any topic brought up but he sure inspired the Vansmack/voted-for-Barack-instead-of-Hillary fringe of the party by making them feel good about how “inspiring” he is.thanks for the summary now I don't have to waste my time finding it on youtube or whateverI didn't watch...heard the surprised look on Cory's face was the best thing of the nightHeres the rundown: the JULIANs killed it, Cory Booker looked surprised, other people were not named Julián.
I mean Beto was also there and displayed no understanding on any topic brought up but he sure inspired the Vansmack/voted-for-Hillary-instead-of-Bernie fringe of the party by making them feel good about how “inspiring” he is.
Not sure what you fixed? Edit: oh you changed Barack to Bernie.I mean Beto was also there and displayed no understanding on any topic brought up but he sure inspired the Vansmack/voted-for-Hillary-instead-of-Bernie fringe of the party by making them feel good about how “inspiring” he is.
FTFY
the ACA (albeit a weak version) and averting the depression are pretty good achievements in my bookIf Hillary is elected in 2008, we have Medicare for All. But it was more important that we felt inspired seeing Oprah cry.
that they didn't get more done when they had congress and the executive is a little nuts tho...
Dems are just too damn nice
We would have still had a republican controlled congress....so no we would not have had M4A
If Hillary is elected in 2008, we have Medicare for All. But it was more important that we felt inspired seeing Oprah cry.
I mean, minus the part where the Dems took both the Congress and Senate in 2008, which is an unarguable fact, you’re absolutely right.We would have still had a republican controlled congress....so no we would not have had M4A
If Hillary is elected in 2008, we have Medicare for All. But it was more important that we felt inspired seeing Oprah cry.
Not sure what you fixed? Edit: oh you changed Barack to Bernie.I mean Beto was also there and displayed no understanding on any topic brought up but he sure inspired the Vansmack/voted-for-Hillary-instead-of-Bernie fringe of the party by making them feel good about how “inspiring” he is.
FTFY
finally some good news
I'm torn on this one, as states should govern how they do voting, but the problem is it such a sham
that's why I said I'm tornfinally some good news
I'm torn on this one, as states should govern how they do voting, but the problem is it such a sham
Why should states govern how they do voting? Isn't that why we needed a civil rights act? Isn't it a much stronger principle that everyone should be allowed a vote that counts?
but you are mixing two issues,
I don't think gerrymandering invalidates "that everyone should be allowed a vote" what it does do is give unequal representation of the state in the federal government of one party over the other
but the state got the correct amt of reps still (although trump is trying to change census stuff to favor his team)
File the same case showing how it disproportionately impacts voters for certain races and the outcome is wholly different.Interesting...that's how recreational Pot became legal in dc
The Supreme Court was right that there is nothing in the constitution from preventing political parties from giving themselves an advantage with voting districts. It was a failed strategy.
File the same case showing how it disproportionately impacts voters for certain races and the outcome is wholly different.
, it is a back door to eliminating minority voting power as well.but wait, aren't they the minority voting power...
caucuses...on paper they seem like a Greek ideal democracy...but in reality they kinda suckCaucuses are terrible and raises the “price of admission” on voting. It’s no surprise that Bernie Sanders limited success in 2016 came on the backs of caucus states. Fuck caucuses.
this is an interesting turn on this front
Democrats in Iowa and Nevada will be able to vote over the phone (https://www.axios.com/iowa-nevada-caucus-primary-voting-phone-ec680092-602e-46f6-b41e-a5669a23e862.html)
Fuck caucuses.I 100% agree...
show me the MONEY
2Q reporting
1. Buttigieg $24.8M
2. Biden $21.5M
3. Warren $19.1M
4. Sanders $18M
5. Harris $12M
6. Bennet $2.8M
7. Bullock $2M
8. Hickenlooper $1M
yes this was released a few days ago
but man, who would have guessed Mayor Pete to be on top of fundraising
not all campaigns reported yet (not due until July 15th)....what's not clear is the Debate bump in here
as I heard Harris cleaned up
It’s sad that in America we literally measure a political campaign’s success by how much money they raise!like it or not, it does show support
you have to look at how much money the candidates spent to get that moneythat's a data point I'd like to see...is that available
The only support measure that should matter is the votes countedwell duh...but that vote isn't until the spring and a cluster fuck because the way they do it (should just be on one day or if they have to 4 days ...one for every time zone)
Swalwellis announcingjust announcedthis afternoon (west coast time)that he is out.
Interestingly, LAT is reporting that Tom Steyer is in. Hmmm
Mitch is going to be re-elected in a walkBoo...let me wear my rose colored glasses
You might as well just set an Andrew Jackson on fire.
Mitch is going to be re-elected in a walk
I mean, probably, but why not keep trying to end this shithead?You might as well just set an Andrew Jackson on fire.
Mitch is going to be re-elected in a walk
He is just too green...I saw him on Bill Maher and he was so awkward...he was better on Lawrence O’Donnell
I like him though...I think he should have announced earlier and stuck around until Iowa...the experience would have done him well...as it is it’s hard to even say he ran...I don’t get the point of the exercise
I mean, probably, but why not keep trying to end this shithead?You might as well just set an Andrew Jackson on fire.
Mitch is going to be re-elected in a walk
Because you could spend that money on a candidate with a chance?
Exactly....money doesn’t do much.I'm still not sure I agree with money doesn't do much...although I'm sure Jeb Bush would agree with you
But I still say if you feel like donating try to help candidates with a chance.
this is interesting to noteMitch is going to be re-elected in a walkBoo...let me wear my rose colored glasses
I don’t get people that tell people not to run....seems very anti-democratic and un American
Now I can see trying to convince people not to vote third party once all candidates are announced for general but at this early point?
Anyone who wants to be president should run to be president...the more the better
I think Trump is more un-American and anti-democratic than telling a left-center guy not to run as an independent. Can't Ross Perot run as the independent choice instead of Schultz?
Ross Perot has announced he will not be running.potw
I dont know, McConnell's opponent has my vote!of course she has your tru-blue, inside the beltway, latte drinking, USWNT supporting, climate overexcited, gender-dysphoric vote
I dont know, McConnell's opponent has my vote!of course she has your tru-blue, inside the beltway, latte drinking, USWNT supporting, climate overexcited, gender-dysphoric vote
but you don't live in KY...so matters little
question is can we inspire the people of KY to vote for her
It's just another Joe Manchin, and fuck Joe Manchin.So I'd take Joe Manchin 2.0 over Mitch any f'n day, any f'n day
EDIT: Should have started with the fact that I spit coffee at your description of me lol
Totallywell I think she is trying to win over KY voters who voted for Mitch...saying he didn't do any of the things he'd promised he'd do
But saying Mitch hasn’t done enough is not blue dog it’s wack dog
I mean come on!
NKOTB lives in Bernie fantasyland
Mitch has been Trump’s #1 allyWith out Mitch...this country would be soo different
Totally
But saying Mitch hasn’t done enough is not blue dog it’s wack dog
I mean come on!
NKOTB lives in Bernie fantasyland
With out Mitch...this country would be soo different
speaking of good old joe...did some pretty liberal thing todayIt's just another Joe Manchin, and fuck Joe Manchin.So I'd take Joe Manchin 2.0 over Mitch any f'n day, any f'n day
I'm not a big fan of joe, but you have to play to your constituents
I am one hundred percent in favor of this. I am also one hundred percent in favor of the GOP digging in their heels and refusing to kowtow, thereby de facto ending the US National Teams. #JuliansAmericaLongPlayspeaking of good old joe...did some pretty liberal thing todayIt's just another Joe Manchin, and fuck Joe Manchin.So I'd take Joe Manchin 2.0 over Mitch any f'n day, any f'n day
I'm not a big fan of joe, but you have to play to your constituents
"Days after the United States women's soccer team won their fourth World Cup, a US senator introduced a bill Tuesday that would prevent the use of federal funding for the 2026 men's World Cup until the US Soccer Federation agrees to equal pay for the women's and men's teams.
The bill, penned by Sen. Joe Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat, would prohibit the use of federal funds that would otherwise be provided to support host cities, local and state organizations, US Soccer, CONCACAF, and FIFA when the US cohosts the men's World Cup in 2026
Can you guys explain to me the problem with asking people if they are Americans on a census of Americans? I mean what is so terrible about trying to count the number of Americans? I thought that was the whole point of a census particularly to be used to apportion representation and distribute resources
I must be missing something
But until 1950 the census asked if you were a citizen?
if we are worried the information is going to be shared with ICE then the problem is not the asking of the question itself
I really think it’s crazy to say a country cannot count its citizens...that I thought was the point...
And as an American who checks off Latino I am sick and tired of Hispanics not voting or participating using every excuse in the book. Latino voting rates are abysmal. Most Latinos here are US citizens but they just don’t vote.
This whole issue is just another example of democrats being totally out of touch. I mean really? You can’t ask a person for purposes of a census wether they are a citizen?
So hypothetically if a state had million illegals they would get more representation in the House? Districts with more illegals counted get more representatives and money?
So hypothetically if a state had million illegals they would get more representation in the House? Districts with more illegals counted get more representatives and money?
I hear what you are saying but I see nothing wrong with asking. That is the point of a census.
Another terrible hill to die on by democrats.
I hear what you are saying but I see nothing wrong with asking. That is the point of a census.
Another terrible hill to die on by democrats.
This is an existential threat to the Dems and their ability to hold the House or the White House. The citizenship question is the spear of a 5 year plan by the R's to remake the electorate and undo demographic shifts. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/census-citizenship-question-hofeller.html
I hear what you are saying but I see nothing wrong with asking. That is the point of a census.So we now have documents (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/census-citizenship-question-hofeller.html) that the whole idea the R's pushed this forward as they could see it would give them a clear advantage and hurt Dems
Another terrible hill to die on by democrats.
I hear what you are saying but I see nothing wrong with asking. That is the point of a census.So we now have documents (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/census-citizenship-question-hofeller.html) that the whole idea the R's pushed this forward as they could see it would give them a clear advantage and hurt Dems
Another terrible hill to die on by democrats.
Mr. Hofeller ... wrote a study in 2015 concluding that adding a citizenship question to the census would allow Republicans to draft even more extreme gerrymandered maps to stymie Democrats
it's just like gerrymandering and the Electoral college, they are figuring out ways to keep leaning it to give them a minority majority
so there is some ethical point I get you are trying to make, but they don't care about ethics, they just want to make it so they can create an unfair advantage to one political party by pulling all these stunts
I'm starting to think that maybe hutch hasn't thought critically about any of the things he's posting here...Does anyone know the best way to get green smoothie and spittle out of a keyboard? I should probably just replace the keyboard, right?
I get the concerns with the messaging around it. The R's have generally killed the D's with messaging. And even the fact that we are all using the word illegal immigrant shows that. That said, I don't think this is an issue that hurts the Dems because this isn't a voting issue for their base, or independents. So I think they need to fight it hard (though I suspect they will lose in the rigged courts).
I'm starting to think that maybe hutch hasn't thought critically about any of the things he's posting here...Does anyone know the best way to get green smoothie and spittle out of a keyboard? I should probably just replace the keyboard, right?
I'm starting to think that maybe hutch hasn't thought critically about any of the things he's posting here...
so you must be reading about 6 posts a month as there are about 4 people posting here
Now if people would stop fucking quoting people I've blocked, I wouldn't have to see their nonsense.
My solemn vow is that I will never Ignore any Users.(sing-song voice) You! Are! miss-ing out!
My solemn vow is that I will never Ignore any Users.(sing-song voice) You! Are! miss-ing out!
My solemn vow is that I will never Ignore any Users.(sing-song voice) You! Are! miss-ing out!
Why would people want to miss out on posts by anybody? This forum has become boring enough without adding to the boredom by ignoring posts.
You might as well just set an Andrew Jackson on fire.Nate Silver @NateSilver538 2:21 PM · Jul 9, 2019
Mitch is going to be re-elected in a walk
I guess if that’s the way you all feel I don’t have to post
Nate Silver @NateSilver538 Jul 9 2:55 PM
But if you're not providing for, say, a 15-20% chance of [INSERT CANDIDATE NAME HERE] winning, your mental and/or statistical model is overconfident.
then there's jules, but that's jules... and you two have history.To be fair, I said nothing about Hutch.
Nate Silver @NateSilver538 Jul 9 2:55 PM
But if you're not providing for, say, a 15-20% chance of [INSERT CANDIDATE NAME HERE] winning, your mental and/or statistical model is overconfident.
I feel as though he won many very open and contentious arguments by saying something similar in his projections of Trump possibly winning in 2016, with an even higher percentage of odds.
trump taking a new tack on this....
ok...that is 100% correcttrump taking a new tack on this....
Not really. His tack all along was to rile up the left while placating to his base. This new "tack" - which will never come to fruition - is the same.
It's his tried and true pattern and it's so damn effective: get the left fired up, make my base happy all while changing ABSOLUTELY nothing.
ok...that is 100% correcttrump taking a new tack on this....
Not really. His tack all along was to rile up the left while placating to his base. This new "tack" - which will never come to fruition - is the same.
It's his tried and true pattern and it's so damn effective: get the left fired up, make my base happy all while changing ABSOLUTELY nothing.
although they keep chanting 'he's delivered on EVERY promise he's ever made"
how do we combat that misconception
he is so good at getting liberals panties in a knot (is that now an inappropriate cliche in #metoo?)
how do we combat that misconception
Start focusing on sensible economic policies that will change the minds of ~700,000 voters in 6 key states instead of seeing who can jerk whom off furthest to the left.Y. E. S.
I come to this board sometimes for Political Therapy.how do we combat that misconceptionWhy bother? Are you ever going to change the mind of his base? Do you even need to in order to win this election?
Start focusing on sensible economic policies that will change the minds of ~700,000 voters in 6 key states instead of seeing who can jerk whom off furthest to the left.I'm pretty certain that I'll have little impact
And, please, ignore the distractions.(https://media0.giphy.com/media/yBPFkq4c492ak/giphy.gif)
Also, wild to think anyone would call this a distraction TBH.
Sec Acosta resigning
Sec Acosta resigning
Also, wild to think anyone would call this a distraction TBH.
Has Kamala learned nothing...you can't piss of TayTay and be President
Taylor Swift Block Vote May Be In Jeopardy For Kamala Harris, Thanks To Scooter Braun Fundraiser (https://deadline.com/2019/07/kamala-harris-taylor-swift-scooter-braun-fundraiser-ariana-grande-katy-perry-demi-lovato-1202650207/)
#WeStandWithTaylor
an interesting blow by blow of the whole event...and people still are conflicted on their decisions at the timeI actually think pushing Franken off the boat was the best thing she's ever done.Would like to hear more about this...
Who cares anymore? He’s done.true...
Kind of feel like democrats are constantly outfoxed
nate is on fire lately.....
Nate Silver
Slight non-sequitur, but kudos to Eric Swalwell for being the only one of the dozen or so hopeless Democratic candidates who put aside his ego and dropped out.
While I'm not going to argue with you on that response
Swalwell had zero chance of getting the nom... as do about 15 of them, I do think at this stage some of them should drop out and get over themselves.
I do think Swalwell making sure he keeps his day job is an important factor...I assume a few of them have the same issue at home.
Who is donating to these people?
You are all wrong about "Old Town Road"
The polls are good for illustrating general trends like Bernie tanking and Warren rising but not for predicting a winneras well as O’Rourke
If pets are ever given citizenship, this longplay is going to look so good. #FORTHEFUTUREdamn...didn't see that angle
I guess Zombies are also an untapped group too...Who do you think votes for Trump if not mindless zombies?
The polls are good for illustrating general trends like Bernie tanking and Warren rising but not for predicting a winner
Can we get a little explanation of what the difference is in these two images?The polls are good for illustrating general trends like Bernie tanking and Warren rising but not for predicting a winner
Hmmm.....
Can we get a little explanation of what the difference is in these two images?The polls are good for illustrating general trends like Bernie tanking and Warren rising but not for predicting a winner
Hmmm.....
other than the first one has Sanders crushing the US and the second doesn't have sanders
looks like trump is going to cut our payroll taxes...as if the deficit wasn't high enough let lower incoming revenue even more!
great way to get votes tho...
Don't think it's going to stop this recession
God they need help with spin...dems just suck at messaginglooks like trump is going to cut our payroll taxes...as if the deficit wasn't high enough let lower incoming revenue even more!
great way to get votes tho...
Don't think it's going to stop this recession
More like: Trump is going to ask Congress to cut the payroll tax. Puts Dems in a hard spot, because its a regressive tax that absolutely kills the accounting for Social Security. But if they don't go along, Trump can try to peg the recession on them.
Cutting the FICA tax can only work if the salary cap is removed, or at least raised significantly.
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I don't have time for this.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/19/us/politics/presidential-campaign-songs-playlists.html (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/19/us/politics/presidential-campaign-songs-playlists.html)
Inslee's out. Bummer...Not surprising, I really did like him and his message
Inslee (...) has a real distinct voice and focus.
Inslee (...) has a real distinct voice and focus.
but that was his problem, he's a single-issue candidate. and while we should all be on board with his single issue - nothing else more important at this point - it just won't capture the nation's attention.
yet.
I do think that Inslee had an impact on the current dialogue about climate change and that we should be grateful for
Honestly it's all about how the messaging is on climate change....I think there is an effort to make these statements that "we'll make more jobs and money" when in fact the best approach if for everyone to sacrifice a little (or maybe even a lot) ...and Americans are really not that good at that, we pride ourselves on our gluttony
Maybe he'll become the Head of the EPA or a good cabinet position(yes we gotta win first)
The candidates had much nicer things to say about him compared to Swalwell exit
he stood out from all the other old white dudes...to me at least
His impact with the average American was zeroI didn't say the voter...I meant on the platforms of the candidates and what was being discussed
Twitterverse or politicalheads are not America
The guy was barely registering in the polls and we want to say he had impact? Maybe negative impact
your boy had something to say today about it
Bernie Sanders launches $16 trillion climate change plan
His impact with the average American was zero
Twitterverse or politicalheads are not America
The guy was barely registering in the polls and we want to say he had impact? Maybe negative impact
Today I announce my $88 quintillion climate change plan
About as credible and relevant....Bernie will never be president but he can damn well make sure, again, Trump is
Democrats with a chance to win the nomination would be wise to hold off announcing grandiose spending plans lest Trump use it against them in the general
Hutch why do you constantly tear down other Democrats. You're the reason Trump won!!!His impact with the average American was zero
Twitterverse or politicalheads are not America
The guy was barely registering in the polls and we want to say he had impact? Maybe negative impact
DemocratsI 100% agree on this...with a chance to win the nominationwould be wise to hold off announcing grandiose spending plans lest Trump use it against them in the general
The only one I tear down is Bernie because he is not a Democratand this...
DemocratsI 100% agree on this...with a chance to win the nominationwould be wise to hold off announcing grandiose spending plans lest Trump use it against them in the generalThe only one I tear down is Bernie because he is not a Democratand this...
I think this is going to be Bernie's problem...he's got very few friends and allies in the Democratic party as he's made a career distancing himself from them
Unless he pulls a Trump and changes the whole Democratic establishment...he's never going to get their support
Americans will vote for who they like more over who serves their interests over and over again...
Americans will vote for who they like more over who serves their interests over and over again...
Boy do I have good news for you then :)
https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-q4-2018/
The main thing is for the American people to “like” you....it’s been proven over and over again that is what wins elections
I mean like to have a beer with you or hang out for coffee
Do you think anyone would pick Bernie over Trump
I mean like to have a beer with you or hang out for coffee
Do you think anyone would pick Warren over Trump
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I think it's less certain than Bernie based on available metrics (which we all know after 2016 are horseshit, but...) I still think it's possible. I'm not as confident, though.
Americans will vote for who they like more over who serves their interests over and over again...
Boy do I have good news for you then :)
https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-q4-2018/
Bernie Sanders maintained his position as America’s most popular senator, with 64 percent of voters in his state approving of him
that isn't nation wide
I mean like to have a beer with you or hang out for coffee
Do you think anyone would pick Bernie or Warren over Trump
But you are delusional
like to have a beer withI do think this is how Republicans judge as they would prefer an everyman to a know-it-all
like to have a beer withI do think this is how Republicans judge as they would prefer an everyman to a know-it-all
I feel Beto would be super fun to drink with, just a terrible President.
Does anybody read the political forum on DCUM?
This is how one person there explained the appeal of Trump:
I will say as a someone who does not support trump but does identify as on the center-right, I find it appealing. He speaks plainly. We’ve had a lot of smart people mismanage a lot of important things. Someone who isn’t particularly intellectual just sort of feels appealing, even if I know in my head that it’s probably best for the president to be smart.
Does anybody read the political forum on DCUM?
This is how one person there explained the appeal of Trump:
I will say as a someone who does not support trump but does identify as on the center-right, I find it appealing. He speaks plainly. We’ve had a lot of smart people mismanage a lot of important things. Someone who isn’t particularly intellectual just sort of feels appealing, even if I know in my head that it’s probably best for the president to be smart.
I'm willing to grant all of that. But he still seems like he'd be a horrible bore to drink with. Thin skinned, and egotistical. One of those guys who tells long stories about himself and than you'd have to watch every word that you said, less he took offense.
We’ve had a lot of smart people mismanage a lot of important things.
Bernie Sanders maintained his position as America’s most popular senator, with 64 percent of voters in his state approving of him
that isn't nation wide
I knew it was Morning Consult...just grabbed the wrong link: https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/Bernie Sanders maintained his position as America’s most popular senator, with 64 percent of voters in his state approving of him
that isn't nation wide
Who?
Who?Looks like Moulton could do the Henry Rollins bio-pic
i, don't trust guys who walk around with the top two buttons, unbuttoned, on their button downs.
Cuban Americans (Florida Florida Florida)I knew there were a lot and are influential...but just read As of the 2010 U.S. Census, there are 1.2 million people of cuban decent in Florida!
Anyways biggest news is RBG continuing to fight pancreatic cancer....saw a great quote from her
this is some funny shitWho?
Isn't he an SNL cast member? (Seth Moulton)
Yeah, that is pretty funny actually.this is some funny shitWho?
Isn't he an SNL cast member? (Seth Moulton)
@realDonaldTrump
The Dow is down 573 points perhaps on the news that Representative Seth Moulton, whoever that may be, has dropped out of the 2020 Presidential Race!
another GOP rep retires....
GOP Rep. Sean Duffy resigning
although...trump won that district by 21 points...so not likely going to be a flip
Interestinganother GOP rep retires....
GOP Rep. Sean Duffy resigning
although...trump won that district by 21 points...so not likely going to be a flip
Obama won that district by +8 in 2008, then lost by -3 in 2012. I wonder why the dramatic shift?
are we not going to make note of Joe Walsh's candidacy? i mean, it isn't going to go anywhere, but we should at least mention it...
Joe Walsh officially confirms 2020 Trump Primary Challenge (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/joe-walsh-trump-primary-2020)
The ex-congressman-turned-talk radio host announced on Sunday a long-shot gamble to wrestle the 2020 Republican nomination from Trump.
this headline says all we need to know about his candidacy: "Joe Walsh says he is challenging Trump 'to make the moral case against him' (https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/26/politics/joe-walsh-donald-trump-2020-republican-primary-cnntv/index.html)". newsflash: the GOP has no morals at the moment.
are we not going to make note of Joe Walsh's candidacy?was mentioned appropriately here (https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=22097.0)
can someone tell me why at this point that these people have not dropped outI'll expand your list to everyone not currently in position to make the third debate. (And I'd probably throw Yang on there too even though he is qualified.)
Michael Bennet
Steve Bullock
John Delaney
Tim Ryan
Joe Sestak
here's that listcan someone tell me why at this point that these people have not dropped outI'll expand your list to everyone not currently in position to make the third debate. (And I'd probably throw Yang on there too even though he is qualified.)
Michael Bennet
Steve Bullock
John Delaney
Tim Ryan
Joe Sestak
Gillibrand can stay in. ... Franken-loving wing of the party.So that's only part of my gripe with her.
here's that listcan someone tell me why at this point that these people have not dropped outI'll expand your list to everyone not currently in position to make the third debate. (And I'd probably throw Yang on there too even though he is qualified.)
Michael Bennet
Steve Bullock
John Delaney
Tim Ryan
Joe Sestak
Tom Steyer
Tulsi Gabbard
Marianne Williamson
Kirsten Gillibrand
Bill de Blasio
Yang...what are you talking about
With merch like this...
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2693/5196/products/MMM_Tee_Front_1024x1024@2x.png?v=1566510217)
I kinda feel that people are still somewhat interested in those folks
but they could all go away* Wednesday and I wouldn't shed a tear
*from the primary
Why would anyone drop out?
Stick it out hope you catch fire and parlay that into a cabinet position
That’s the play
It’s still really early...
His impact with the average American was zero
Twitterverse or politicalheads are not America
The guy was barely registering in the polls and we want to say he had impact? Maybe negative impact
Hutch:Why would anyone drop out?
Stick it out hope you catch fire and parlay that into a cabinet position
That’s the play
It’s still really early...
Also Hutch:His impact with the average American was zero
Twitterverse or politicalheads are not America
The guy was barely registering in the polls and we want to say he had impact? Maybe negative impact
John Delaney - doesn't currently have a jobThis is a little harsh. I mean, he's not the funniest guy but he moves some tickets when he's out on tour. Being friends with the syphilis-patient on SNL has helped raise his profile.
Playing UMd, 10/30, $45man at all the debates he was bald???
Absolutely nothing to lose, fundraising money to gain (just don't take on any debt):I guess them not being on the stage is good and am starting to agree with how they decided to winnow out the field
Playing UMd, 10/30, $45
scariest headline or porn I'd never watchNo doubt, you meant to post this WoodRocket production in the Smackie thread.
New 2020 Poll Shows Three-Way Tie with Sanders, Warren and Biden
scariest headline or porn I'd never watch
New 2020 Poll Shows Three-Way Tie with Sanders, Warren and Biden
Isakson retiring in GA due to Parkinsons. Time for Stacy Abrams to wake from her slumber.totally...she appears to have a lot of support in the state
Isakson retiring in GA due to Parkinsons. Time for Stacy Abrams to wake from her slumber.totally...she appears to have a lot of support in the state
I do admire her push to get more people voting....but this seems like opportunity knocking LOUDLY
special election in 2020 for this seat
Didn't seem like there was a possibility of the Dems taking the senate 2020...but the likelihood is increasing
Now if we could just figure out a way to DitchMitch
Isakson retiring in GA due to Parkinsons. Time for Stacy Abrams to wake from her slumber.totally...she appears to have a lot of support in the state
I do admire her push to get more people voting....but this seems like opportunity knocking LOUDLY
special election in 2020 for this seat
Didn't seem like there was a possibility of the Dems taking the senate 2020...but the likelihood is increasing
Now if we could just figure out a way to DitchMitch
Just generally bad news for the Dems that Abrams isn't running. If she were on the ticket it would put both Senate seats and the electoral college votes in play because she would drag everyone else up. Without her, they better need to find someone charismatic quick.
Gillibrand out
Gillibrand out
I thought she was going to be much more formidable then she ended up being.
the troglodyte cretin, Franken-loving garbage wing of the partyhas more power than we thought
Without her, they better need to find someone charismatic quick.Guys, super flattered but I just cannot move to Georgia and run for the Senate right now.
wow best idea ever for latest chapter in "what crazy thing can we get a bordie to do"Without her, they better need to find someone charismatic quick.Guys, super flattered but I just cannot move to Georgia and run for the Senate right now.
draft jimmy carter?
Without her, they better need to find someone charismatic quick.Guys, super flattered but I just cannot move to Georgia and run for the Senate right now.
I don't know if you can blame her lack of momentum on the pro-Franken folks. I kind of feel that's an online only phenomenon, though I could be wrong. I have no thoughts or feelings about Gillebrand at all, before or after this primary, but I really can't recall a single thing she did as part of it. At least duds like Delaney or Hickenlooper stood out, though for negative reasons.
Shit, I’m a senate candidate now. Moving into the family compound in Blairsville.wow best idea ever for latest chapter in "what crazy thing can we get a bordie to do"Without her, they better need to find someone charismatic quick.Guys, super flattered but I just cannot move to Georgia and run for the Senate right now.
I'm in for $50
I also don't think the Franken thing hurt her, if anything it is the only thing she did that gave her any identity.noticing most stories about her only mention two things...franken and NRA A rating
I'm talking to the marketing team and I'm lobbying for #JustintimeJulian as the slogan
Please send the fiddy to the #JulianForTheNow Campaign headquarters.
The new James Comey report proves whatever you want it to prove
the spin from both sides is like they are reading two different documents
Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz abandons 2020 presidential ambitions
not that he even had a chance...I don't really know anyone who liked him as a candidate
#julianforthenewjobsearchHe was always FOR THE FUTURE. Why doesn't anyone pay attention when I tell you things?
Is there any doubt that Warren would be the nominee if Bernie dropped out?I would definitely have doubt. We'd have to talk about who else dropped out too. Are we talking we wake up on 9/11/2019 and only Biden and Warren are left or everything is exactly the same except Bernie is out? Do I get to intuit who else drops out before Iowa/New Hampshire?
Is there any doubt that Warren would be the nominee if Bernie dropped out?
I would definitely have more doubt than in Space's hypothetical scenario. Bernie is a total non-starter.Is there any doubt that Warren would be the nominee if Bernie dropped out?
is there any doubt that bernie would be the nominee if warren dropped out?
Is there any doubt that Warren would be the nominee if Bernie dropped out?
I'm just totally grossed out at this thoughtful, sourced analysis instead of multiple paragraphs of completely unsolicited random ruminations presented as facts. Get bent, nkotb.
yikes
ben Shapiro memes as a defense...
Canada has a federal fixed election date and Canadians head to the polls every four years.
I usually don't reveal my source...but, blame the BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49656611)Canada has a federal fixed election date and Canadians head to the polls every four years.
this statement is at best misleading, and at worse false. canadian federal elections can happen on any date, and a term is in fact 5 years but the tradition is to call an election after 4 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_election_dates_in_Canada
any bets on what he's going to do?Crickets...come on bordies...thought you'd come up with a funny one or two
@samstein
Andrew Yang’s campaign manager just called to tell me that at tomorrow night’s debate, Yang will be doing "something no presidential candidate has ever done before in history.” He declined to go further than that.
I'm going with streaking...he's going to get naked and streak across the stage with Soy Bomb tattooed on his ass
any bets on what he's going to do?Crickets...come on bordies...thought you'd come up with a funny one or two
@samstein
Andrew Yang’s campaign manager just called to tell me that at tomorrow night’s debate, Yang will be doing "something no presidential candidate has ever done before in history.” He declined to go further than that.
I'm going with streaking...he's going to get naked and streak across the stage with Soy Bomb tattooed on his ass
14.88>13.21
Looking forward to getting my freedom dividendthat was a little predictable coming from yang...but I'm sure it drove an insane amount of foot traffic to https://www.yang2020.com/
I’m going to call Booker the winner, in spite of his punt/flub of the veganism question. And Beto a strong second.
But stupid Democratic voters will still cling to the three old people.
I didn't watch this garbage last night, but did Joe's dentures really fall out?
I'd add Castro to the mix as well. I think he did a good job of standing out and giving people a reason to maybe look a bit deeper. Not sure he has much beyond that, but he did rise above most of the rest. I'm not a fan of Booker or Beto but they both had pretty good nights. Good on Beto for talking about guns without flinching or tiptoeing around it.
Pretty cool to see a lot of headlines about Biden coming out on top!I’m going to call Booker the winner, in spite of his punt/flub of the veganism question. And Beto a strong second.
But stupid Democratic voters will still cling to the three old people.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EExfmbFXoAAu3PV?format=jpg&name=medium)
I don't think anyone in the world thought that was Beto.well at least me and the person who handles the 930 twitter account did...so really no one of importance
Speaking of Beto . . . he is now officially running on the platform of legalization of pot, and expunging records relating to pot.
Wow. Too bad, he doesn't have a chance of winning.
Four-term Republican California Rep. Paul Cook is retiring
the 13th House GOP lawmaker so far to announce his or her retirement
Rats are getting off the sinking ship
I think he will be re-elected unless something major changesso depressing and possible
I think he will be re-elected unless something major changes both with respect to the economy and the democratic candidates
I think he will be re-elected unless something major changes both with respect to the economy and the democratic candidates
there are other possibilities... i'm still holding out hope that a big enough scandal will catch up with him. not sure if this "ukrainian aid for biden dirt" fracas will do it, but if he's caught on tape accepting a bribe or we get proof that he is directing business to himself, or some such.
I think he will be re-elected unless something major changes both with respect to the economy and the democratic candidates
there are other possibilities... i'm still holding out hope that a big enough scandal will catch up with him. not sure if this "ukrainian aid for biden dirt" fracas will do it, but if he's caught on tape accepting a bribe or we get proof that he is directing business to himself, or some such.
There has to be some pictures of Trunp in blackface somewhere.
I think he will be re-elected unless something major changes both with respect to the economy and the democratic candidates
there are other possibilities... i'm still holding out hope that a big enough scandal will catch up with him. not sure if this "ukrainian aid for biden dirt" fracas will do it, but if he's caught on tape accepting a bribe or we get proof that he is directing business to himself, or some such.
predictions on Pelosi's 5PM press confI mean, I think it's obviously announcing an impeachment inquiry.
hows that going to impact Trumps nomination for the Noble Peace Prize?predictions on Pelosi's 5PM press confI mean, I think it's obviously announcing an impeachment inquiry.
hows that going to impact Trumps nomination for the Noble Peace Prize?predictions on Pelosi's 5PM press confI mean, I think it's obviously announcing an impeachment inquiry.
Now Trump says he will release unredacted transcript of call tomorrow
Tulsi Gabbard does not support impeachment
People assume democrats have votes in the house but what if they don’t even have that!
What if phone call transcript comes out and it’s completely innocuous?
So who do you guys think is the whistleblower?Bolton has an axe to grind and apparently was furious over this withholding of funding
Dan Coats?
Well well well
I regret to inform you Nancy Pelosi is no longer speaking of the housenot following what you are trying to say here?
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble about impeachment but I regret to inform you Nancy Pelosi is no longer speaking of the house
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble about impeachment but I regret to inform you Nancy Pelosi is no longer speaking of the house
what is she speaking about, then?
Rules are rules, folksok..so it was your grammar/tense and you were quoting trump...
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1176932022863794177
Rules are rules, folksok..so it was your grammar/tense and you were quoting trump...
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1176932022863794177
TRUMP: and Nancy Pelosi as far as I'm concerned, unfortunately, she's no longer Speaker of the House.
So why is trump saying unfortunately?
Yes, but I was also a shithead as a kid, so they were probably rightcan you elaborate...inquiring minds want to know
Modifying my posts is a federal crime @FBI @CIA
there is no way it took 30 minutes to say what was written there.
Here's an authoritative description:
https://twitter.com/LarryPfeifferDC/status/1176587533322342400?s=19 (https://twitter.com/LarryPfeifferDC/status/1176587533322342400?s=19)
not thinking Coats with this comment he just madeSo who do you guys think is the whistleblower?Bolton has an axe to grind and apparently was furious over this withholding of funding
Dan Coats?
not thinking Coats with this comment he just madeSo who do you guys think is the whistleblower?Bolton has an axe to grind and apparently was furious over this withholding of funding
Dan Coats?
"Nothing came to me. I left on Aug. 15.... The very next day that was presented to Joe. I feel so bad for Joe. He is caught in a squeeze here ...."
Beto is probably so pissed! His culture isn't a costume!!!someone beat you to it
Whistle-Blower Is a C.I.A. Officer Who Was Detailed to the White House
His complaint suggested he was an analyst by training with an understanding of Ukrainian politics. Little else is known about him.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html
Also, this:
https://twitter.com/nytopinion/status/1177383602792927232
but gawddam, have you seen the vitriolic comments that ensued?!? you'd swear the NYT just gave cancer to every child in the nation. NY needs to legalize recreational weed STAT, apparently...
It has the potential to undercut his man of the people narrative when his son is being paid $50k a month to sit on a foreign business board when he potentially may lack the credentials.
It has the potential to undercut his man of the people narrative when his son is being paid $50k a month to sit on a foreign business board when he potentially may lack the credentials.
this sounds mostly like conservative wishful thinking to me.
forget sins of the father... sins of the son?!? somehow joe is responsible for hunter's decisions?
It has the potential to undercut his man of the people narrative when his son is being paid $50k a month to sit on a foreign business board when he potentially may lack the credentials.
this sounds mostly like conservative wishful thinking to me.
forget sins of the father... sins of the son?!? somehow joe is responsible for hunter's decisions?
this sounds mostly like conservative wishful thinking to me.
LOL I'm not sure Hunter just "decided" to get a super high paying job he's not qualified for :)
He'll probably get pardoned...or trump will put a hit on him and make it look like the clinton's did it
^you forgot to add...but not bernie
The minute they think Warren is going to be opponent they will do same to her
The minute they think Warren is going to be opponent they will do same to herI do think Space's golf ball threat is a possibility
You don’t think he is going to tear her apart on the Native American Indian stuff??
The point is they will make up stuff anyway
Remember Kerry and the swiftboat stuff???
I actually think Trump May be helping Joe by making it clear he sees him as his opponent
It’s up to democrats to wuss out
But who knows what will happen tomorrow much less the next day
Sanders is done...he has become the democrat’s Ron Paul...has a hard core base that gives him money and considers him God but that’s about it...can’t grow it...in fact Warren ate him alive this quarter and took away all his non hard core support
Maybe to be fair Sanders did move party to left but at what cost? Still remains to be tabulated...talk to me November 2020
if you look at Drudge Reportwow, I hadn't looked at that site in a while
What in the fuck https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178821592421404678?s=19artistically very cool
That video needs to be set to Take on me!
You know what would change everything....if Twitter de-platforms himWell I would have never thought that Kamala reads the 930 Forum..but right after I posted this she started this
do we really feel that Biden is going to be unblemished by this Ukraine stuff...and I'm no way implying he did anything wrongWelp trump has China looking into Hunter there too
Just seems like even a bigger effort will be afoot to show that Biden did similar stuff with his power as VP
and honestly, if you have that kind of power, it is probably going to be easy to show other examples that look 'shady'
You having a conversation with yourself?!?better than an argument
Just generally bad news for the Dems that Abrams isn't running. If she were on the ticket it would put both Senate seats and the electoral college votes in play because she would drag everyone else up. Without her, they better to find someone charismatic quick.
so Mitch can DOA it as soon as it comes his way?
I just don't know what the best strategy is, but I don't think getting out of the house and to the senate will make good headlines when Trump will be like "look the Congress just acquitted me, told you it was a Dem witch hunt"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGAokPNUYAAS5VZ?format=jpg&name=900x900)
I guess she thinks she's relevant and people will care
Tulsi Gabbard@TulsiGabbard
I am seriously considering boycotting October 15 debate to bring attention to DNC/corporate media’s effort to rig 2020 primary.
I guess she thinks she's relevant and people will care
Tulsi Gabbard@TulsiGabbard
I am seriously considering boycotting October 15 debate to bring attention to DNC/corporate media’s effort to rig 2020 primary.
Ro Khanna and Patrick Leahy have endorsed him.Ok yes, the other senator from his state. Leahy has been in congress for almost as long as I've been alive (and I'm old as dirt), but a legit endorsement, I think I already knew about
once in awhile, without looking it up, i understand the basis for the name changes that you do. this is one of those times Mr. Vara. What a fucked up world."don't play checkers in a chess world"
I am no Tusli fan, but HRC's comments about her are INSANE. It's basically Qanon for liberalsNot going to argue that
I am no Tusli fan, but HRC's comments about her are INSANE. It's basically Qanon for liberalsBut Tg kind of made a fool of herself before, during and now after the debate
Her true colors are shining through
But shouldn't everyone be furious at Clinton for sowing discord among Dems and giving Trump ammo for the general? What about party unity? What about Vote Blue No Matter Who? ;DNot sure if serious, but this might be a real concern if Tulsi was polling at anything higher than 1%. It’s a vanity campaign.
But shouldn't everyone be furious at Clinton for sowing discord among Dems and giving Trump ammo for the general? What about party unity? What about Vote Blue No Matter Who? ;DNot sure if serious, but this might be a real concern if Tulsi was polling at anything higher than 1%. It’s a vanity campaign.
But shouldn't everyone be furious at Clinton for sowing discord among Dems and giving Trump ammo for the general? What about party unity? What about Vote Blue No Matter Who? ;DNot sure if serious, but this might be a real concern if Tulsi was polling at anything higher than 1%. It’s a vanity campaign.
I think that’s crazy talk
Agreed that HRC is a lunatic. Thanks, hutch!I have to say....Hil did go a little overboard on her Tulsi tweet IMOI think that’s crazy talk
HAIL JULIAN!or CastroThis #julianforthefuture is really catching on ;)
Guys, you all keep focusing on the present when the entire campaign is based around (for) The Future. Read between the lines, Sheeple.HAIL JULIAN!or CastroThis #julianforthefuture is really catching on ;)
looks like the future may be delayed...
Julián Castro said Monday that his 2020 presidential campaign must raise $800,000 by Oct. 31 — or it "will be silenced for good."
that's a lot of moula for a candidate in the 1% range to raise in two weeks
Even with that, she couldn't get any press...not sure about that any more...hasn't really won over any Dems, but she's sure the darling of the right now
Even though it’s true?I'm quickly becoming less and less a fan of Tulsi...
Hillary is actually a better candidate than Warren Bernie or Biden or Pete
I have no tat...although considering getting one
I have no tat...although considering getting oneNot sure which one would be good for your physique
If she said it’s true...why else would she?I dunno if I agree with that, but she definitely is a part of the deep state, so knows these kind of things
There is evidence to support itscant at best
In the wake of last debate everyone was saying she was Russian asset but the minute HRC says it OH MY GODit's a lot different when a pundit says it, than when the former secertary of state and winner of the popular vote says it
Hillary is actually a better candidate than Warren Bernie or Biden or PeteI'd argue she may have had better support, experience and policies
Sad but true
She lost cause of a combination of factors we have discussed over and over again including some you pointed out but seemingly forgot(https://www.presidentialelection.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/KLOBUCHAR-705-1.jpg)
She was not a perfect candidate but can you imagine Biden or Bernie winning?
And Warren May light a fire in your grill but come on
If she said it’s true...hmm ....
If she said it’s true...hmm ....
"I don't know Tulsi Gabbard, but I know one thing: She's not an asset of Russia." — Trump on "Hannity"
Come on hutch defend this
as Trump knows more about being an asset of Russia than Hil does ;)
Leahy tweeted a zinger todayRo Khanna and Patrick Leahy have endorsed him.Ok yes, the other senator from his state. Leahy has been in congress for almost as long as I've been alive (and I'm old as dirt), but a legit endorsement, I think I already knew about
I guess the Katie Hill 2024 campaign is pretty much toast.what was most shocking is Matt Gaetz came to her defense
Tulsi retiring from congress ...to focus on the presidential race
Yikes she should have stayed in the race she can win
Yet you support Sanders? Explain that one
Everything I do not like is Russia. Everything I do like is the #Resistance.
seriously...Tulsi retiring from congress ...to focus on the presidential race
Yikes she should have stayed in the race she can win
The Russians are paying her off, she'll eventually go third party.
Yet you support Sanders? Explain that one
Already explained itEverything I do not like is Russia. Everything I do like is the #Resistance.
Tulsi, Bernie’s first congressional endorsement in 2016, is working to undermine our election in favor of Russia. If you are out there defending her (I am talking to you Bernie) you are either blind, stupid or a Russian agent yourself.
Is this the appropriate thread for the southern half of the board (read: Virginia, not California) to discuss Delegate and State Senate elections? I’m predicting 53-47 and 21-19 Dems.
Nah, we will just hijack this one for 18 hours.Is this the appropriate thread for the southern half of the board (read: Virginia, not California) to discuss Delegate and State Senate elections? I’m predicting 53-47 and 21-19 Dems.
gawd, do we now need a "The 2019 Thread" thread?!?
wow that was 15 more hours then I thought was possible to talk about the VA gen assemblygawd, do we now need a "The 2019 Thread" thread?!?Nah, we will just hijack this one for 18 hours.
Hot take:My eyebrows are singed off just from reading that scorching hot take.
You all realize that KY and VA Democrats are essentially moderate Republicans, right?
https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/1192199384659873792?s=19
I was tempted to give Az a hard time about thatHot take:My eyebrows are singed off just from reading that scorching hot take.
You all realize that KY and VA Democrats are essentially moderate Republicans, right?
https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/1192199384659873792?s=19
Bloomberg
Eric Holder has been consulting strategists about possibly jumping into the Dem presidential race.
Both houses solidly blue. Blue Tsunami rolling thru? Left to see. But definitely taking both houses unless every call is incorrect.Turnout was outstanding for an Off year election
Great time to live in VA!
Some democracy we gotNot sure what you mean....why can't the wife of a Rep run for office
Some democracy we gotNot sure what you mean....why can't the wife of a Rep run for office
she did run for Governor in 2018 in MD
also...so Mayor Pete is having quite the rise in Iowa
looking like he might finish in top 2
Don’t be ridiculous. He is Mayor of a city of 100,000 people!let's get the numbers right here....102,245 people
Deval Patrick
Deval Patrick
no. just no.
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/06/25/bernard-sig...amp/?__twitter_impression=true
I think Trump will pardon Stoneif he pulls an Arpaio...he'll do it before the sentencing
Not sure when
Stone sentencing is for Februaryyour math seems off here...will sentencing be in Feb 2020 and the election in Nov 2020
I imagine Trump will pardon him in November once he is re-elected
Or he will pardon him after he is not re-elected (less likely scenario)
Trump Ditches Flavored Vape Ban After Learning His Supporters Like to Vape (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/trump-reversal-flavored-e-cigarette-vape-ban.html)
dang he can't even own it and blames it on family members
saying that he didn’t want to go through with the ban that he said was really his wife and daughter’s idea anyway.
Must say was nice to see LA gov stay Democratic this weekend
Seems like both 2018 and 2019 election cycles were very BAD for trump
Doesn't totally correlate what will happen in 2020...
Wayne Messam is out...not that anyone cares
I believe he's the President of the NRA.Wayne Messam is out...not that anyone cares
i know it's stereotypical to say "who?" in these situations, but seriously: who? i have never heard this name before.
Wayne Messam is out...not that anyone cares
i know it's stereotypical to say "who?" in these situations, but seriously: who? i have never heard this name before.
just googled him. definitely never seen or heard of him. does that make me a bad leftie?
More people than South Bend...and a swing statenot gay...but POC
I agreed with Biden on 8, two were question marks. No disagrees.
7 out of 8 for Klobuchar with two question marks.
7 out of 9 for Pete with one question mark.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/quiz-which-candidate-agrees-with-me/?fbclid=IwAR3TSNonodOJnyivIvCn74unm24iJjlWwaDWd0SKMgJHRGlXSWjzBwythZE
One of my early favorites, Steve Bullock, has dropped out. The Democrats are doing their best to pick the most unappealing, unelectable candidate again this year. Seems like they need Martin O'Malley to talk some sense into them.
CNN political analysts were at a loss for words while discussing a poll conducted by the Economist/YouGov that found 53% of Republicans said that Donald Trump was a better president than Abraham Lincoln. (https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/12/02/republicans-trump-lincoln-economist-yougov-poll-ip-sot-vpx.cnn)
I really expected her to go a lot further:yeah, I would have put money she was going to be top 3 candidate 6 months ago
Mind blowing to me that her campaign was so dreadful. I really expected her to go a lot further:
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/03/kamala-harris-drops-out-out-of-presidential-race-074902
although has a good chance to get the Attorney Gen job if there is a D in the WH
That claim was made by Buttman's aides.can confirm....
So why post it? Just to smear “Bernie Bros”well the act did happen and I saw it from a Mayor Peat Moss feed
Thank you Space and starsky for defending me and other Bernie Bros.dang that's some bizzaro world type of post
new GOP retirement
Repub Rep. Tom Graves Will Not Seek Re-Election in 2020
that 17 now (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/there-are-now-16-house-republicans-retiring-what-does-this-mean-for-2020/) or is it 20 (https://www.axios.com/congress-republicans-democrats-retire-2020-8149a7a1-1878-47fc-b44d-b3970c858f47.html)
If Kamala dropping out helps anyone it’s Joe
divvying up that 1% was hard to doIf Kamala dropping out helps anyone it’s Joe
apparently booker and castro have picked up a good chunk of kamala's followers, per the NPR.
He must have a great gig lined up...maybe replacing Mulvaneythat's what the word is that he's getting ready for a position in the Trump administration
Well if Trump actually got rid of Mulvaney as long rumoured I would think Mick would go straight to K Street
He must have a great gig lined up...maybe replacing Mulvaneythat's what the word is that he's getting ready for a position in the Trump administration
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/19/white-house-impeachment-mulvaney-088246Well if Trump actually got rid of Mulvaney as long rumoured I would think Mick would go straight to K Street
That makes sense but I guess my question was why would Trump get rid of Mulvaney?
what is historically the most powerful job in the West Wing.
I like Amy, a lot.
I think a simple "Joe and Amy" ticket would appeal to the blue collar folks they need to win over in PA. MI, WI, etc. Just wish Joe was younger.
and the retires continue on the R sideHis constituents were probably recently informed that Roe was the pro-abortion side, not Wade.
Rep. Phil Roe (R-Tenn.) announced Friday he won't seek re-election in 2020
the 25th Republican to announce he will not run for re-election this cycle.
although almost no chance this going dem
President Trump won Roe's district in 2016 by a nearly 57-point margin.
Roe's congressional seat has been held by a Republican since 1881.
His constituents were probably recently informed that Roe was the pro-abortion side, not Wade.hmm always thought it was Norma McCorvey ;)
The Benedict Arnold of the abortion rights movement.His constituents were probably recently informed that Roe was the pro-abortion side, not Wade.hmm always thought it was Norma McCorvey ;)
yep, story/stance changed a lotThe Benedict Arnold of the abortion rights movement.His constituents were probably recently informed that Roe was the pro-abortion side, not Wade.hmm always thought it was Norma McCorvey ;)
Good for BloombergHe's got an interesting strategy to avoid the first 4, no debates and just focus on super Tuesday
Bloomberg drops $10 mil on a 60 second superbowl adnot to get outdone
Can someone tell me why the Dems keep with this Primary schedule
1. caucus, while on paper sound like a great idea...are just a disaster
2. Iowa, NH, SC, NV as the first four...yikes
3. I think the Dems should be doing ranked choice voting in primaries
saw this and it depresses me
@HoarseWisperer
In Iowa, approximately 30% of registered voters are Democrats.
Of that number, approximately 15% participate in caucuses.
4.5% of Iowa’s population participates in the Dem caucus.
Hardly representative of the state let alone the country.
what world does it make sense that this should be the Dem's first primary?
Julian from the PastNice one!
bloomberg seems to think he can pull it off without those first 2 states (actually first 4 states, since he isn't on those ballots) but realistically no one has ever won the nom without being first or second in the first 2 states.well no one has ever skipped the first 4, so it's hard to tell if this strategy will work
Can someone tell me why the Dems keep with this Primary schedule
whoa...news to me...gosh 2008 seems like when we were using rotary phones and getting off the couch to change the channelCan someone tell me why the Dems keep with this Primary schedule
Ask Florida, circa 2008...they may have some thoughts on the issue.
That is what decided the primary...there was a DNC meeting in DC to decide how to deal with FL and I think MI having jumped the gun
I was on Obama’s side...I remember Clinton surrogate Lanny Davis and I yelling at each other at the hotel
Good times
didn't see that coming...
Yes, steyer (although I've probably followed his campaign the least)didn't see that coming...
Are you referring to Steyer's numbers?
Marianne out. I'll always love you, queennooooo.....
Marianne out. I'll always love you, queen
may be a good sign for bloomberg....trumps testing out insults
Mini Mike B
honestly, he's usually pretty good at this, but I give him a D on this one
Also, Booker outDonny never misses an opportunity to kick someone on the way out
Does anyone have any idea what was up with @thewhitehouse tweeting a picture of snow when it was almost 60 degrees in DC
Is it to show they can just say and do anything....even lie about the weather
this one has me confused
Does anyone have any idea what was up with @thewhitehouse tweeting a picture of snow when it was almost 60 degrees in DC
Is it to show they can just say and do anything....even lie about the weather
this one has me confused
https://mashable.com/article/white-house-snow-tweet/
Hillary ran a bad campaign? Please explain
No mention of Comey and the FBI?
Not a serious response
I thought more highly of you
If anybody wants to seriously look at the campaign the thing you would have to recognize is that the candidate that ran a terrible campaign was Donald Trump. It was not disciplined, every day there was a new clusterfuck, and he got creamed in every debate.
But he won! I think it's hard to say someone ran a bad campaign when they won!I think this really needs to get defined in the discussion of this (nearly continual) board argument. Can someone run a good campaign and lose? Can someone run a bad campaign and still win? If so, for either, give real-life examples [and show your work].
You just need the right message and the right messenger.ding ding ding....we have a winner!
I think this really needs to get defined in the discussion of this (nearly continual) board argument. Can someone run a good campaign and lose? Can someone run a bad campaign and still win? If so, for either, give real-life examples [and show your work].
I think if you and Hutch answer those two questions (and follow one instructive statement), it will quickly be revealed you are debating different topics at heart.
In essence NKOTB admits he believes if you win you ran the good campaign (or better) and if you lose a bad one (or a worse one)I think that might be a bit more simplistic than NKOTB would put it but I agree its his argument.
..AOC in 2028.is that because she won't even be 35 in 2024
#HeDidTheMath..AOC in 2028.is that because she won't even be 35 in 2024
#HeDidTheMath..AOC in 2028.is that because she won't even be 35 in 2024
Both known Russian assets which should be a plus in the generaloh snap...shots fired
#HeDidTheMath..AOC in 2028.is that because she won't even be 35 in 2024
Eagles fan?well he is also trying to get the Penn vote ...but I'd go with the Steelers then
I think that’s not a reveal but a joke
There is no doubt the VP should be a African American woman in her early 50s
I will be surprised if there isn’t something agreed with Kamala
https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1217864280126775297
Matt Pearce 🦅
@mattdpearce
Hard to overstate how unpredictable talking to voters can be: Melissa from Algona, Iowa, caucused for Bernie in 2016, then voted for a Trump; she supports Medicare for All but supports Buttigieg, but will likely vote for Trump again if Buttigieg doesn’t win the Dem nomination.
Matt Pearce 🦅Melissa from Algona needs to get a hold of her life. Jesus.
@mattdpearce
Hard to overstate how unpredictable talking to voters can be: Melissa from Algona, Iowa, caucused for Bernie in 2016, then voted for a Trump; she supports Medicare for All but supports Buttigieg, but will likely vote for Trump again if Buttigieg doesn’t win the Dem nomination.
Fucking Buttigieg Bros...
I'm probably 85% certain I'll vote for whoever wins the nomination
Yeah, those guys....
Grr...FL supreme court is making it hard for my friends...the felons, vote
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/478620-florida-supreme-court-rules-convicted-felons-must-pay-fines-fees-before
gotta pay the man, before voting
seems poll-taxy to me.
Maybe some wealthy dem will just pay all their tabs...not holding my breath
I had not seen this before
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds?fbclid=IwAR3M9hbi2a6aC7atJmxp9nAKUE8AqSeAwSrJs320m6tVZLRFNVsSaiuShDQ
Maybe the fact neither Bernie nor Warren has a prayer and four more years of Trump could be the end of a free media?
I don’t know...just spitballing here
Aside from the fact that you're wrong...what does she have that Biden or Mayor Pete don't?
Just seems like they're trying to make fetch happen here.watch it buddy...getting ready to cross a line where there's no going back
why try to boost her?
Well obviously anybody supporting anyone other than Bernie must have their motives questioned and be discredited.
why try to boost her?
Not that I'm a Kerry fan ....but it's important to state this again
“Senator John Kerry, the eventual Democrat nominee in 2004, was also polling in the single digits at this point in the race.”
Sure, but how did that turn out? ;DI was more for Clark or Dean...always thought Kerry was not going be enough to beat a post 9-11 bushwhy try to boost her?
Not that I'm a Kerry fan ....but it's important to state this again
“Senator John Kerry, the eventual Democrat nominee in 2004, was also polling in the single digits at this point in the race.”
Anyone who is not 100% behind the nomination over Trump is "Those guys!"
Hmmm, this seems divisive!I wanted to cringe when I saw this headline Hillary Clinton on Bernie Sanders: "Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him"
Clinton says 'nobody likes' Sanders and won't commit to backing him if he's the Democratic nominee
(https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/politics/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-documentary/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2020-01-21T13%3A50%3A02&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social)Anyone who is not 100% behind the nomination over Trump is "Those guys!"
I thought this kind of rhetoric was solely the domain of Bernie Bros, who are the only ones responsible for Trump?took a while, but we finally got NKOTB to admit it
* Largest rally of primary to date (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/19/bernie-sanders-ocasio-cortez-endorsement-rally-051491)You know this number is mostly due to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez being there...in NYC no less
I thought this kind of rhetoric was solely the domain of Bernie Bros, who are the only ones responsible for Trump?took a while, but we finally got NKOTB to admit it
Well done boys, our work is done here
As divisive as this?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/politics/bernie-sanders-apologizes-joe-biden-corruption-oped/index.html
But it's Hillary's emails all over again...a completely stupid controversy that will is 100% avoidable and will 100% be weaponized in the general. Seems like we shouldn't repeat history IMO!So you don't think who ever gets the nom won't have some weaponized illegitimate attack plastered all over social media...then regurgitated by the regular media....only to a few hours/days be debunked..but most people not paying attention...will miss and think this is a fact
But it's Hillary's emails all over again...a completely stupid controversy that will is 100% avoidable and will 100% be weaponized in the general. Seems like we shouldn't repeat history IMO!So you don't think who ever gets the nom won't have some weaponized illegitimate attack plastered all over social media...then regurgitated by the regular media....only to a few hours/days be debunked..but most people not paying attention...will miss and think this is a fact
So when the (deep fake) footage of Bernie visiting Stalin's grave and kissing the tomb gets out there, how will that be different
obviously if it works...keep doing it* Largest rally of primary to date (https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/19/bernie-sanders-ocasio-cortez-endorsement-rally-051491)You know this number is mostly due to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez being there...in NYC no less
in related news: Tulsi Gabbard sues Clinton for defamation over "Russian asset" comment
In related news, Trump set a new personal record yesterday
he tweeted 142 times in a single day.
He's obviously an insane lunatic who's life couldn't be more different than mine. That said, shirking work to tweet all day? that's pretty relatableIn related news, Trump set a new personal record yesterday
he tweeted 142 times in a single day.
I will say, Bernie does get the best musical acts
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fconsequenceofsound.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F01%2FBernie-2020-Caucus-Concerts.jpg%3Fquality%3D80&f=1&nofb=1)
even though he probably has no idea who they are
My biggest disagreements with Bernie: ....when he called Phish one of the great bands in this country. Almost disqualifying...hmm...VT senator ....kinda has to say that
Welp as the saying goes
As goes joe rogan, so goes country
Tacit endorsement from the newest Bernie bro
Hatch, just curious...what about Bloomberg makes you think he'd be able to stand up to Trump. Genuinely curious.I've heard him talk and he knows how to throw a punch. Sadly dems don't know how to throw punches. And when you are going aginst Trump...ya gotta be unafraid to play tough
spoke at the Republic National conventionwhile personally that is a little revolting, he was a Republican...but let's be clear a NY republican is MUCH different that one from IA or AL
The DNC refusing to change the rules to get more diversity on the debate stage,We literally had five debates that had to be multi day so every jackboot yokel with 3 followers could pitch. Stop this shit. Bernie Bros are the fucking worst.
The DNC refusing to change the rules to get more diversity on the debate stage,We literally had five debates that had to be multi day so every jackboot yokel with 3 followers could pitch. Stop this shit. Bernie Bros are the fucking worst.
The current DNC rules were written by Bernie!!
Do some research NKOTB cause you continue to embarrass yourself
Like 1 in 10 Bernie primary 2016 voters voting Trump?that's some bullshit that these were getable voters tho
Also, Bloomberg is polling better than 20 of the other people who were running and got on the stage
I do think that should stand for something.
I'm not daft an know he kind of bought that name recognition
It is odd situation that he doesn't have any donations and is self funded so he couldn't qualify
don't even thought this was an option
1) something like 24% of HRC voters went for McCain over Obama, and he still won.
2) I voted for HRC so my conscious is clear.
Why do you continue to split the party, Hutch????
As for your claim you voted for Hillary...I doubt it...and your “conscious” whatever that is will always be clear as long as you continue to believe the drivel you post....the fact is nobody had more say in the current rules than Bernie and yet you continue with this DNC bogeyman crap
And the sad thing is when Bernie loses I doubt his supporters will support the nominee...they have become far more cult like since the last go aroundSo let's be clear, Bernie does not have a small # of supporters at this point
24% of people who voted for Hillary voted McCain?
Where is the evidence? I call bullshit
As someone that did vote for HRC over Trump (I'm not fully insane, gang) I do think that number stinks. But you have to ask how that compares to past elections. This was pretty eye opening though i think that for anyone that blames Bernie for Trumps victory it wont move the needle:
"Moreover, defections from a primary to general election are common. More voters went from Hillary Clinton to John McCain in 2008 than went from Sanders to Trump in 2016; about 13 percent of Trump’s 2016 voters also voted for Barack Obama in 2012."
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/24/16194086/bernie-trump-voters-studyI had not seen this before
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds?fbclid=IwAR3M9hbi2a6aC7atJmxp9nAKUE8AqSeAwSrJs320m6tVZLRFNVsSaiuShDQ
But even if that’s so they didn’t cost Obama the presidency like Bernie voters cost HRC and gave us Trump. Own it
As for your claim you voted for Hillary...I doubt it...and your “conscious” whatever that is will always be clear as long as you continue to believe the drivel you post
the fact is nobody had more say in the current rules than Bernie and yet you continue with this DNC bogeyman crap
1) something like 24% of HRC voters went for McCain over Obama, and he still won.
2) I voted for HRC so my conscious is clear.
Why do you continue to split the party, Hutch????
24% of people who voted for Hillary voted McCain?
Where is the evidence? I call bullshit
But even if that’s so they didn’t cost Obama the presidency like Bernie voters cost HRC and gave us Trump. Own it
And the sad thing is when Bernie loses I doubt his supporters will support the nominee...they have become far more cult like since the last go around
As for your claim you voted for Hillary...I doubt it...and your “conscious” whatever that is will always be clear as long as you continue to believe the drivel you post....the fact is nobody had more say in the current rules than Bernie and yet you continue with this DNC bogeyman crap
15% seems probable or possible...
I just think saying 24% is crazy...I don’t expect NKOTB to accept his number was bull or to accept Hillary did not cost Obama the presidency while Bernie did cost Hillary the presidency
I think voting doesn’t take place in a vacuum
We knew Trump was a threat...We knew Obama would beat McCain
I noticed NKOTB called Hillary a loser......the real loser was the American people including NKOTB and I
But don't worry, come Wednesday, even the coastal money might not matter.2/5?
to take politics that seriouslyfor the record, I can chew gum AND walk at the same timer
Thought this was interesting...
Not only did they again have to exclude donations to Bernie from the map to show the second place folks, but in calculating the number of states in which a candidate has the most donors:
Joe Biden: 1 (his home state, Bernie in 2nd)
Elizabeth Warren: 1 (her home state, Bernie in 2nd)
Pete Buttigieg: 1 (his home state, Bernie in 2nd)
Amy Klobuchar: 1 (her home state, Bernie in 2nd)
Bernie Sanders: 46
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/01/us/politics/democratic-presidential-campaign-donors.html
Piece of advice...unless you want to start getting 10 texts a day begging you for more money, don't ever give to Bernie.just give them Hutch's number, he'll love you for it
I am sure NKOTB put in a lot of effort on behalf of Hillary and I think I will do the same on behalf of Bernie if he is the nominee. I will certainly match his contributions to the Hillary campaign dollar for dollar.
So you're NOT coming to the weekly canvassing I host for Bernie in Alexandria?...is this the new 'Send Julian to GWAR!'
Thought this was interesting...
Not only did they again have to exclude donations to Bernie from the map to show the second place folks, but in calculating the number of states in which a candidate has the most donors:
Joe Biden: 1 (his home state, Bernie in 2nd)
Elizabeth Warren: 1 (her home state, Bernie in 2nd)
Pete Buttigieg: 1 (his home state, Bernie in 2nd)
Amy Klobuchar: 1 (her home state, Bernie in 2nd)
Bernie Sanders: 46
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/01/us/politics/democratic-presidential-campaign-donors.html
Piece of advice...unless you want to start getting 10 texts a day begging you for more money, don't ever give to Bernie.
I think if you give to Mike Bloomberg ...this won't happen ;)Piece of advice...unless you want to start getting 10 texts a day begging you for more money, don't ever give to Bernie.I promise if you give to Warren it is the same.
Hmmm its not like the DNC to botch something this big...
I typically don't get in on the politico posts... but we all deserve whatever we get.
I typically don't get in on the politico posts... but we all deserve whatever we get.
Trump?
YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB IOWA!
they should get penalized for this and vote after Puerto Rico in 2024
This now stains the whole thing into Nov, with tons of fodder for Team Trump and enabling more 'rigged election' talk
some good news out of VAwell...we have to wait until July for this to go into effect...and possible might not be ready for 2020 (but I think it will)
Just passed no excuse absentee voting!!!
Say it isn’t so joe, say it isn’t so
Joe Walsh ends Republican primary challenge against Trump
Anyone up in New Hampshire canvassing this weekend?the entire weekend, man I didn't realize that stretching canvas over wood was soo much work
In what is probably Dixville Notch’s last primary, the five remaining residents cast their ballots just after the stroke of midnight Tuesday in the first 2020 Democratic presidential primary vote in the nation.there you have it folks, no more primaries needed...onto the general!
Bloomberg received three write-in votes, one from a Republican and two from Democrats. The remaining votes went to Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders.
I like Amy K!having a good night so far, besting Warren and Biden!
36% outstanding??
frustrating that these two insignificant states get so much hype, create "momentum", that sets the course for the rest of the primary. as some talking head pointed out yesterday, if california or texas were the first state then mayor pete would be back at the bottom of the pack.
frustrating that these two insignificant states get so much hype, create "momentum", that sets the course for the rest of the primary. as some talking head pointed out yesterday, if california or texas were the first state then mayor pete would be back at the bottom of the pack.
But why give California first crack at it? They're going to go blue in the general no matter who the Dems put up. Why not give added importance to the states who are going to actually determine the outcome of the general election?
@NateSilver538
So apparently the candidate in 3rd place is a bigger story than the candidate in 2nd place, who in turn is a bigger story than the candidate in 1st place? OK.
and ate my tostadas instead.after all your other posts today, I have to question what this actually means
wish I knew,wow, Arlington was a hot bed of actvity last night
Elizabeth warren did a town hall tonight at Wakefield High School...like three blocks from my house
I think when he is re-elected he is going to pardon many people....Flynn, Stone, Manafort...all of them really...except for Cohen
Why decide now? Wait to see who is still runningof course, won't have to decide until the morning of 3/3
apparently in 2017 Assange claimed Trump offered a pardon if he agreed to help cover up Russia’s involvement in hacking emails from the Democratic National Committee.I think when he is re-elected he is going to pardon many people....Flynn, Stone, Manafort...all of them really...except for Cohen
Even if he isn't re-elected he will pardon those three.
guess the gloves are coming off
guess the gloves are coming off
https://twitter.com/StephenAtHome/status/1230226535514279936?s=20
The gloves are off tonight.totally....gotta imagine the opps research teams are writing up the ads already
Yes, that's the sound of Bloomburg's balls being busted by Warren.the NDA thing may just be a kill shot!
Biden had a great result!yeah, what I was looking at made it look like he did much worse (because it was doing the delegate count), but still only 27% reporting
If Biden had finished behind Pete and Warren that would have been the end...
man, what a train wreck of a debate. totally pointless and unwatchable.Look for me....I'm coming as the naked cowboy
Hutch, are we meeting up at Bernie's rally on Saturday in SPringfield?
man, what a train wreck of a debate. totally pointless and unwatchable.It was quite an annoying debate
Hutch, are we meeting up at Bernie's rally on Saturday in SPringfield?
man, what a train wreck of a debate. totally pointless and unwatchable.
Hutch, are we meeting up at Bernie's rally on Saturday in SPringfield?
I feel you stood me up at the Arlington Bernie event so I don’t know that I can trust you anymore
People always letting me down...
Ha, what event were you at? I missed your invite! I was in Arlington on the 15th (I believe) for the huge door knocking event. Sorry I missed you!How funny it would have been if you knocked on Hutch's doorI feel you stood me up at the Arlington Bernie event so I don’t know that I can trust you anymore
People always letting me down...
Hmmm....this was definitely not on list of how 2020 might go down
President Trump: "I had a man come up to me a week ago. I hadn't seen him in a long time. I said, 'How you doing?' He said, 'Fine, fine.' He hugs me. I said, 'Are you well?' He says, 'No.' He said, 'I have the worst fever and the worst flu,' and he's hugging and kissing me."
Hmmm....this was definitely not on list of how 2020 might go down
President Trump: "I had a man come up to me a week ago. I hadn't seen him in a long time. I said, 'How you doing?' He said, 'Fine, fine.' He hugs me. I said, 'Are you well?' He says, 'No.' He said, 'I have the worst fever and the worst flu,' and he's hugging and kissing me."
He is such a germophobe that there is no way that actually happened (not to mention the secret service wouldn't let it happen).
list of how 2020 might go down
We got Pence and Kudlow in the job
Well I did have the economy taking a turn due to the reckless actions on trade and debt on the listlist of how 2020 might go down
dude, do you have any idea how long that list is?
LOL that US Economist cover says a lot more about the state of our awful media than it does anything about the 2020 elections
Last I checked blooming mike wasn’t on the ballot
Bloomberg is done...He was the biggest loser
If you want Trump to not be re-elected ask yourself if Trump can be defeated without strong support from African Americans in Virginia and key cities in PA, WI and MI?
Buttigieg drops out.
Wonder if he made a deal with Biden to drop out pre-Super Tuesday in return for a VP or high cabinet spot>
Buttigieg drops out.
Wonder if he made a deal with Biden to drop out pre-Super Tuesday in return for a VP or high cabinet spot>
VP??? No way!!
I mean isn’t endorsing Biden
Let’s face it if Biden gets that far the VP will be a black woman
Buttigieg drops out.Pete...it was not your time
I moved from voting for Mayor Pete to Team Biden last night. Agree any vote in VA on Tuesday that isn’t for one of those two is tossing the vote away.
I’m with Flavor Flav!!
You really can’t call it Public Enemy without him
Also, I think the band were the only black people at the show.The concert was in Sydney...so not really that earth-shattering of a reveal
Also, what happens if you voted early for someone who dropped out...I guess you can't change that (not for me, just curious)
a wasted vote .
that's more of a silver lininga wasted vote .
i don't get the concept of a "wasted vote". there is no such thing, all votes have significance. a vote for buttigieg or harris still signals to them that they have support, that their campaigns had traction (just not enough). in 2024, you don't think candidates won't look back at how much residual support they had?
So, in this simulator, the Klobuchar to Biden thing is very significant...
a wasted vote .
in 2024, you don't think candidates won't look back at how much residual support they had?
So, in this simulator, the Klobuchar to Biden thing is very significant...
Just because Klobachar told me to vote for X candidate does not mean her former followers will.
I am shocked the Democratic Party wants a Democrat who has fought for the party for 50 years, as a Senator and Vice President, to be President over a socialist who has never lifted one finger for the Democratic Party!!
Read the Kos piece then come talk to meI think that was a well-written piece
I am shocked the Democratic Party wants a Democrat who has fought for the party for 50 years, as a Senator and Vice President, to be President over a socialist who has never lifted one finger for the Democratic Party!!
lol. well said :-) there is always a chance the DNC sat back and let the people decide who should be nominated - craziness, i know...
Congratulations to Joe Biden, who won his first primary/caucus ever in three runs for the Presidency on Saturday. Can he win any more?I yelled “take a shower, dirt grub” at everyone who looked like a Bernie this morning at my polling place so when Biden wins VA later tonite, you’ll know who to credit.
buttigieg and klobuchar out, both endorsing biden...
For me the more interesting endorsement was Beto...
Literally nobody likes Sanders
I guess some former senator from Michigan I never heard of just endorsed him
Berniers on the net are freaking out but I expect he will be way ahead after tonight
So black people in South Carolina are not the working man?
That’s some lame ass racism in your own household Space
that’s just so stupid I wouldn’t know where to begin
It’s a weird Bernie trait to equate anyone who is against him with the 1% or establishment ...he does this all the time and his supporters parrot it
I mean just saw another lame Bernie request for $: “the entire damn 1% is coming after us...”
No dude I am coming after you and happily voted for Joe Biden..I mean I wish I was a 1 percenter!
Ok well for 12 that’s pretty good..I guess I shouldn’t have assumed
I would use the term "hard on for" but I learned in another thread that that means you're against something.
I think it's like AlohaI would use the term "hard on for" but I learned in another thread that that means you're against something.
i thought is just meant that it got you really excited about it, but could be either positively or negatively... help?
Ok people..time to put your bitcoin where your mouth isIf that’s the count, it’s gonna be Biden.
I want some delegate count guestimates
Biden 500
Bloomberg 200
Sanders 475
Warren 150
I'm feeling a surge for biden,
Bloomberg is fading
sanders will do well, but will come in second
I would use the term "hard on for" but I learned in another thread that that means you're against something.
i thought is just meant that it got you really excited about it, but could be either positively or negatively... help?
It’s really hard to predict...I haven’t even looked at polls not that there are many since SC but expect Sanders will clean up in TX and especially CA which will make it impossible for Biden to win tonight...but he will live to keep fightingFour of 538's five scenarios have Biden getting the most votes tonite, FWIW.
they also said that we might not know CA for a few days because of the Mail in votes
Wow CNN calls VA for Biden immediately!!!
NC called for BidenBama too.
Bloomberg takes American Samoa!
Ok, I won’t.Bloomberg takes American Samoa!
DON'T CALL IT A COMEBACK
Bloomberg takes American Samoa!
Bloomberg and Warren doing better than I expected
Bloomberg and Warren doing better than I expectedIs Warren really doing better than expectations though? Bloomberg was a total wildcard but there's no state where I’ve seen a Warren percentage and went WOW!!
Yeah I guess you are right...Warren running third in MA with 22% -it’s early- has to be devastatingKind of don’t know how she stays in past today unless something changes. No path. Her staying in hurts Bernie in a (de facto) two candidate race.
followers have consistently claimed he will bring new voters to the process).this has been his biggest indictment, claimed he'd bring new voters...but didn't deliver
Democratic turnout Virginia has nearly doubled from 2016.
I really want to hear more about the turnout ....
Tommy Tuberville. Lolthinking that may be my new band name
He was the football coach at Auburn for a decade.Tommy Tuberville. Lolthinking that may be my new band name
This CA exit poll tells you what we are up against with Bernie supporters
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/entrance-and-exit-polls/california/democratic
The point is many Bernie supporters aren’t going to vote for anyone other than Bernie in November...it’s there in the numbers
We are going to have to beat Trump without even more of them than when Hillary lost
There isn’t anything to be done...it’s not as if Bernie has a young lieutenant we can make VP
My evidence is the exit poll I am pointing you to (third try here) and what I see around me....
And the question in the poll is will you vote Democrat regardless of who is nominee
I did not see that coming...Me neither, people were writing obits of his campaign on Friday
also a lot of support for bernie in 2016 was somewhat anti hilliary and thinking there was NO WAY that Trump would actually win and there would be a normal GOP candidateAnd the question in the poll is will you vote Democrat regardless of who is nominee
Maybe some of those were Trump voters trying to make Bernie the opponent? Can anyone vote in the California primary?
I also didn’t see how weak Sanders support is
He is going to lose Maine! His numbers are down everywhere from 2016
The only thing Sanders does well is get Latinos to vote...whoever is running Latino outreach is now set for their life...nothing but promotions and pay raises ahead
Can anyone vote in the California primary?
Can anyone vote in the California primary?
I'm pretty sure smakie has it right...you have to be an independent and you can vote in the dem primaryCan anyone vote in the California primary?
absolutely anyone (according to trump), same for general election.
I don't know much about her, but what about Gretchen Whitmer as VP? She has a nice name, at least.I liked her rebuttal to the SOTU, but most people panned that speach...but would help lock in MI
I will go out on a limb and say it will be Kamala Harris.Kamala Harris probably does even less for a Joe Biden candidacy than Stacey Abrams. Like what voting bloc or whatever do you get with Kamala Harris that you do not have without her? Who is excited over this?
Topic for discussion: what if Biden throws conventional wisdom out the window and does a unity ticket with Bernie?
My wife is reminding me that she proposed a Bernie/Biden or Biden/Bernie (depending on who got the nomination) unity ticket this past weekend. Great minds think alike?I WITHDRAW MY SUGGESTION.
Why does everyone assume Bernie would go for this even if Biden was open to it?I totally acknowledge he likely wouldn't. This is a hypothetical thought exercise on the 15% chance he would say "heck yeah, I've always wanted to live in a naval observatory."
Why does everyone assume Bernie would go for this even if Biden was open to it?I totally acknowledge he likely wouldn't. This is a hypothetical thought exercise on the 15% chance he would say "heck yeah, I've always wanted to live in a naval observatory."
warren losing MA has got to be devastating for her. what's the over/under on how long her campaign lasts - 2 days?
warren losing MA has got to be devastating for her. what's the over/under on how long her campaign lasts - 2 days?
the unders win!
Warren OUT.
From the NY Times:
Bummed that Warren couldn’t make in roads as she was at the top of my list.. as some smarter than I person said in a different time she have made a great president but we are too broken due to 45...
Also, a lot of smart and thoughtful people with blue check marks I follow were indicating their support for her, which is part of the problem
warren's supporters were well informed and passionate, but not to the point of insultsBummed that Warren couldn’t make in roads as she was at the top of my list.. as some smarter than I person said in a different time she have made a great president but we are too broken due to 45...
Also, a lot of smart and thoughtful people with blue check marks I follow were indicating their support for her, which is part of the problem
Definitely the best supporters....just not enough of them....
Vindictive Amy Klobuchar Elected Mayor Of South Bend, Indiana (https://politics.theonion.com/vindictive-amy-klobuchar-elected-mayor-of-south-bend-i-1842125399)the insanity and inanity of the news the past few years has made the onion irrelevant
Anyone know if he is in Michigan currently?As our Michigan correspondent, I can confirm he is not. I called everyone and asked.
Apparently Warren has abandoned the entire progressive agenda because she went on SNL and told a joke... just another day of shaking my head while looking at Twittershe was great on SNL...
My wife just walked in the door and said Biden is a cocksucker of billionaires. My daughter and I didn't really have a reply.
My wife just walked in the door and said Biden is a cocksucker of billionaires. My daughter and I didn't really have a reply.
She's not wrong.
Now i know how George Conway and James Carville must feel.now that's a plot of a great comedy sitcom
Hearing Bernie is suspending campaignsource?
Color me surprised...great news
I understand that Bernie Supporters are a passionate bunch of people, but there is a lot of bright shiny objectsism going on. Witness the clip of Biden interacting with the auto worker over gun control. Apparently he lost the entire election over that, amongst other things...
I think she is wrong...basically the big money stayed on sidelines...Biden blitzed Super Tuesday without $ or organization...he is doing same tonight
I am so tired of Bernie supporters saying anyone who votes for Biden is rich or establishment or old or a dumb person
say that they don't care if Trump gets re-elected, Biden is no different than Trump.I really don't know how people can say a statement like this with a straight face
I understand that Bernie Supporters are a passionate bunch of people, but there is a lot of bright shiny objectsism going on. Witness the clip of Biden interacting with the auto worker over gun control. Apparently he lost the entire election over that, amongst other things...
Can you please explain that in plain English for this stupid Biden voter? I don't know what "shiny objectsism" is and I haven't seen the video you reference.
got a ten minute, one sentence rant
they don't care if Trump gets re-elected, Biden is no different than Trump.
This article (https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/486982-michigan-to-sanders-the-revolution-has-been-cancelled) is some Julian-level snark and savagery.
this is honestly horrifying. those folks need to sit the fuck down, do whatever the hell it is that they do to relax, and have a long hard think. they need to look back at the last 3.5 years (normally i'd say "a long, hard look" but i'll assume these folks still have an ounce of objectivity left - please dont prove me wrong).The "there is no difference between Biden/Hillary and Trump" wing of the party remind me of that Emo Philips joke about Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879 or 1912.
Or, don’t. Like I said. I’ll be fine. Looking forward to that boat, really.Shouldn't have this gone in the JA thread :)
pretending that someone who can’t beat Joe Fucking Biden was going to win the general is asinine.
There go Andrew Gillum's chances at...well whatever it was he still had a chance at.
Biden says his VP will be a woman
I guess that rules out Bernie
Would Bernie undergo surgery to transition to Bernadette?
Feel the Burn“Sanders Not Planning to Quit Race After Tuesday’s Votes, Aides Say”Would Bernie undergo surgery to transition to Bernadette?
Three pillars of Trump’s case for reelection are collapsing all at once (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-crisis-trumps-argument-for-reelection-is-collapsing.html)
KEY POINTS:
- President Trump’s reelection campaign was designed under the premise that the economy would be strong through November, but that’s not true anymore.
- Trump also planned to make socialism a central focus of his attacks. But without Bernie Sanders to run against, this argument becomes a lot less potent.
- Trump campaigned on “draining the swamp” of big government. Now he wants Americans to trust in big government to fight coronavirus and save the economy.
i disagree with the last point, it's a bit disingenuous. "draining the swamp" isn't quite the same thing as reigning in big government. but otherwise, interesting points.
One can only hope and pray
The Washington Post @washingtonpost
Analysis: Trump just comes out and says it: The GOP is hurt when it’s easier to vote
We need to get vote by mail NOWYes....Nancy gets it!
Don't forget...Census day! https://2020census.gov
But of courseactually it was The Supreme Court...my earlier post was incorrect and this is soo much worse
Let me guess, Judges appointed by Scott Walker?
Bernie is calling it quits.Hutch needed some good news...
Bernie is calling it quits.Hutch needed some good news...
Dude...you are not serious that you thought Bernie was the answer here?Bernie is calling it quits.Hutch needed some good news...
Not that it wasn't cemented before, but we just got four more years of the ignoramus
Not that it wasn't cemented before, but we just got four more years of the ignoramus
don't start drinking before lunch manStay out of my life, man.
Yup right on Cue... the blame Warren movement is under way...Even though the math doesn't work if every warren vote went to bernie
The same way Trump supporters have “fake news,” the Bernie people have “its rigged.” Yeah, if more people voting for someone other than your guy because they don’t like your guy’s views is rigged, then it’s rigged. It’s also called Democracy.Yup right on Cue... the blame Warren movement is under way...Even though the math doesn't work if every warren vote went to bernie
oh yea we don't use logic anymore
Not that it wasn't cemented before, but we just got four more years of the ignoramus
srsly? you think bernie had a better shot?
And if you think Americans aren’t going to vote Trump out after this Coronavirus fiasco and the recession or depression coming I got news for you...
So how does it go if Joe for some reason isn't able to accept the Dem nom in Aug? (either dementia as yada claims or Corona?)
Do the delegates just move to other candidates
Well you did say he was not functioning!
He’s fine...just old...news flash BTW old people vote young people stay home
I will talk to you when you are 80...you will still be posting here , right?
I saw Biden on Chris Cuomo's show last night and he was actually very good.
I don't know, man. They always say God protects children and fools and with your dreadful taste in music, you're definitely the latter.Well you did say he was not functioning!
He’s fine...just old...news flash BTW old people vote young people stay home
I will talk to you when you are 80...you will still be posting here , right?
The chances of me making it to 80 are pretty, pretty slim.
Imagine running out of your home in the middle of a lethal pandemic to vote against the Medicare for All program that would guarantee to treat you if you are infected.Oh, Medicare for All is on the ballot? What office is this non-sentient construct running for?
Biden can’t be that badly off to have wiped the floor with the competition!
He won a single primary (of a State the Dems will never carry in November) before they all gave way.
He won a single primary (of a State the Dems will never carry in November) before they all gave way.
incorrect. biden crushed on super tuesday, in multiple states, before the competition started throwing in the towel.
yeah, i think you're right... i'm getting my dates scrambled.Buttigieg and Klobuchar were definitely both out before Super Tuesday.
this always hurts to say, but space is correctHe won a single primary (of a State the Dems will never carry in November) before they all gave way.
incorrect. biden crushed on super tuesday, in multiple states, before the competition started throwing in the towel.
Really? I thought only Bernie, Biden, and Warren (not counting Tulsi) were left once Super Tuesday rolled around.
Amy was getting 5%!!there is no way biden would have taken Minnesota if Amy stayed in!
You can’t assume it’s static and their supporters wouldn’t have largely migrated to Biden even if they had stayed in
Come on!
Ok but that’s one state - her home state- and he would still have broken the 15% threshold and gotten delegates!of course I'm joking
I mean how did Pete and Amy do in SC and how where they going to do on Super Tuesday?It's really hard to say what would have happened if they stayed in, yes they would have lost badly, but enough to give the bern enough wiggle room to get more delegates than Biden after ST and that would have changed the calculus a lot
Can we just call a spade a spade and stop this rigged talk and admit he ran a terrible campaign?
a campaign can't win if its ideas are both polarizing and espoused by less than 30% of the target population. if someone fundamentally opposes the concept of universal healthcare, all the marketing in the world isn't going to change that.See, I would argue you’ve thrown out there the perfect example of why Bernies campaign was bad. “Medicare for All” is wildly popular even among a stunning group of GOPers. A public option, even moreso. Want to know what is supported by less than 30% of the population? Banning personal health insurance. And that’s what Bernie chose to demand - and would make no compromise on with regard to his platform.
Poppycock Sidehatch(https://i.imgur.com/kpKPmCc.gif?noredirect)
They dropped out cause they were out of money and didn’t have a prayer and preferred dropping out to losing really badly. I mean how did Pete and Amy do in SC and how where they going to do on Super Tuesday?
It’s called politics
Geezus
The competition was scared that Bernie would win with a plurality (like Trump did)Trump had a delegate majority by a pretty comfortable margin in 2016, not a plurality.
The competition was scared that Bernie would win with a plurality (like Trump did)Trump had a delegate majority by a pretty comfortable margin in 2016, not a plurality.
That’s true.The competition was scared that Bernie would win with a plurality (like Trump did)Trump had a delegate majority by a pretty comfortable margin in 2016, not a plurality.
Trump had a delegate majority with a plurality of the votes. He only got 45% of the votes in the Republican primary, total.
mostly because of the GOP does the winner take allThe competition was scared that Bernie would win with a plurality (like Trump did)Trump had a delegate majority by a pretty comfortable margin in 2016, not a plurality.
And Pete was dead when he came in behind Biden in NV
Had he come in ahead of Biden he might have had a chance to do a bit better in SC but when he got that blown out it was over
Primaries should really be ranked choice...trump would have never won if they were like that
60% of the GOP primary voters were not voting for him
but they all fell in line quick
You had to know a campaign strategy was to have faux news endlessly repeat the word socialism if Bernie was the candidate..
VA= third least Covid 19 tests per million in USwrong thread, but that's not good news
Only wish they'd done a little better on Pot reform....but other than that, kicking ass and taking namesUnless COVID totally details all was, this is coming in the next two years.
Just a state holiday...so not really sure that many people other than people working for the state of VAIt does nothing for the poorest percentage of the population whose jobs most interfere with getting to the polls.
but it's a start
What was the reasoning behind waiting? Could have been a good job and tax revenue generator in 2020Only wish they'd done a little better on Pot reform..sthis is coming in the next two years.
That's what I thought, does essentially nothing (getting rid of Lee-Jackson day was a good move tho), but CNN and others ran this as the headline. So many other big deal things were passedJust a state holiday...so not really sure that many people other than people working for the state of VAIt does nothing for the poorest percentage of the population whose jobs most interfere with getting to the polls.
but it's a start
I see it as a goal for federal government and we have to start somewhereI don't know how federal holidays work. As a private business, you can operate on any day and compel your staff to work. Any Gov't orgs (fed/state/local), Financial, probably most non-profits all get those days off. So a federal holiday still wouldn't compel most employeers to give the day off...but if it was a federal holiday, I think that close to 75% of the working population would get to take advantage of that.
But I guess federal government can’t compel Texas , for example, right?
Not to mention the specter of Supreme Court overriding anything remotely progressive
I have to believe come November Republicans are going to get wiped outmy schadenfreude might give me an aneurysm on that news
Rep. Justin Amash says he’s looking ‘closely’ at White House run w/ the libertarian party...kinda good news as someone old school republicans would feel good about voting for.
Rep. Justin Amash says he’s looking ‘closely’ at White House run w/ the libertarian party...kinda good news as someone old school republicans would feel good about voting for.
that would be a piece of news that would brighten my week. nay, month. just need Amash to siphon off a few votes in PA, a few in AZ, maybe a sprinkling in WI and MI too...
Would he actually siphon off Trump votes more than he would siphon off Never Trumpers who would have been fine voting for Biden?I agree, but I do think some of those NT would be happy to vote not for a democrat and ensure a trump loss
Just went to get my Absentee Ballot form in VAIts been like this for a couple weeks. Applied for it a bit ago. You’ve gotta do it twice to get both the June primary and the November general.
and this is what is there now. (my understanding for the General election in Nov, no excuse will be and option)
If you wish to avoid going to the polls on election day due to COVID-19, choose the first option. The second option requires medical approval and a mailed application.
Choose an Absentee Option
1. I have a reason or condition that prevents me from going to the polls on Election Day.
2. I am unable to go in person to the polls on election day because of my disability or illness and am likely to remain disabled or ill for the rest of the calendar year
Just went to get my Absentee Ballot form in VAIts been like this for a couple weeks. Applied for it a bit ago. You’ve gotta do it twice to get both the June primary and the November general.
and this is what is there now. (my understanding for the General election in Nov, no excuse will be and option)
If you wish to avoid going to the polls on election day due to COVID-19, choose the first option. The second option requires medical approval and a mailed application.
Choose an Absentee Option
1. I have a reason or condition that prevents me from going to the polls on Election Day.
2. I am unable to go in person to the polls on election day because of my disability or illness and am likely to remain disabled or ill for the rest of the calendar year
No, if you got print and mail, you did it wrong. That is for a permanent absentee ballot for disability (I did this too at first.)Just went to get my Absentee Ballot form in VAIts been like this for a couple weeks. Applied for it a bit ago. You’ve gotta do it twice to get both the June primary and the November general.
and this is what is there now. (my understanding for the General election in Nov, no excuse will be and option)
If you wish to avoid going to the polls on election day due to COVID-19, choose the first option. The second option requires medical approval and a mailed application.
Choose an Absentee Option
1. I have a reason or condition that prevents me from going to the polls on Election Day.
2. I am unable to go in person to the polls on election day because of my disability or illness and am likely to remain disabled or ill for the rest of the calendar year
So it still was confusing and I put in my SS and Drivers ID and still wanted me to print it out and mail it
What option did you pick on the second page for the 'reason' as covid was not an option
yes annoying you can't just pick both
whoa...Roberts & Kavanaugh side w/ liberals on 2nd Amendment caseEhh... they basically said the case did not need to be heard because the issue had resolved itself and they weren't going to deal with the hypothetical of "but what if it hadn't resolved itself."
I agreewhoa...Roberts & Kavanaugh side w/ liberals on 2nd Amendment caseEhh... they basically said the case did not need to be heard because the issue had resolved itself and they weren't going to deal with the hypothetical of "but what if it hadn't resolved itself."
there was a lot of legalese in there, so I started to fog up (was waiting for the forum's legal team to weigh in, checking notes, jules not a member)I know, it’s crazy, I can read and comprehend an article despite not being an attorney. For my next trick, I will repeat off the bottle the side effects of Excedrin despite not being a doctor.
Fun fact...took two this morningthere was a lot of legalese in there, so I started to fog up (was waiting for the forum's legal team to weigh in, checking notes, jules not a member)I know, it’s crazy, I can read and comprehend an article despite not being an attorney. For my next trick, I will repeat off the bottle the side effects of Excedrin despite not being a doctor.
https://amashforamerica.com/If he actually runs and gets the Libertarian nom, this makes Michigan even more interesting and hard-to-predict.
lets do.....this?Exploratory Committee
https://amashforamerica.com/
lets do.....this?
https://amashforamerica.com/
lets do.....this?
this would be an amazing development. Amash could peel away a bunch of conservatives that don't like trump, but refuse to vote for a dem.
Amash has vehemently denied he was thinking of running. shows you can't trust a politician.
or 1 or 2 who weren’t voting to come out and vote DThis is critical and often overlooked....
It suits our purpose when people dismiss polls..let’s run scared and make sure to get out the voteI 100% agree with that. I really think complacency was more to blame for Trump than any other single thing.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/10/politics/biden-polling/index.html
I think when he is re-elected he is going to pardon many people....Flynn, Stone, Manafort...all of them really...except for Cohen
Even if he isn't re-elected he will pardon those three.
Or...I hate to say it..he is smart and negotiated a deal (a future job? $?)
Ok I checked walkie
Biden today seven Facebook posts including two videos of him talking
I bet same on Twitter ..just checked and yeah..seven tweets including both videos
Why do you buy into this idea that he has disappeared when it’s not true?
Justin Amash drops outI think it never got past exploratory
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Crickets about GOP Secretarys of State doing this in several red states. Key word here "applications," not ballots.
@realDonaldTrump
Michigan sends absentee ballot applications to 7.7 million people ahead of Primaries and the General Election. This was done illegally and without authorization by a rogue Secretary of State. I will ask to hold up funding to Michigan if they want to go down this Voter Fraud path!
Way to go Michigan...make us proud in 2020
I read this was the '2nd tweet' as he deleted the first that left out applications out and they quickly deleted and addedCrickets about GOP Secretarys of State doing this in several red states. Key word here "applications," not ballots.
@realDonaldTrump
Michigan sends absentee ballot applications to 7.7 million people ahead of Primaries and the General Election. This was done illegally and without authorization by a rogue Secretary of State. I will ask to hold up funding to Michigan if they want to go down this Voter Fraud path!
Way to go Michigan...make us proud in 2020
Burr and Loeffler committed the same crime and only one is being made to disappearand captain obvious jumps out from behind the Curtin....
that's personal, but I can share that I have donated to Biden and other Dem related things
And how much did you donate to Biden so far? What was your total donation to Hillary last time?
Sad thing is the overwhelming majority of voters in the state wanted this, but the GOP slight majority is overriding the will of the electorate
Twitter is fact checking a certain someone’s tweets... total meltdown on it’s way
Apparently Gardner is going down in CO and Mcsally is going to lose in AZ
Gardner losing is a done deal. Also need to factor in Dems will definitely lose Doug Jones seat in AL.Apparently Gardner is going down in CO and Mcsally is going to lose in AZ
Dems need +3, assuming Biden wins, and those two represent winnable seats. obvs it would be nice to get some padding on that and have more than a 1-vote majority, but i'll take whatever we can get
Not sure what to read out of this...
PA Primary
Biden - 600k~ votes
Trump - 800k~ votes
There were a lot of house primaries, but lots of them unopposed too?
for ref...6,000,000~ voted in 2016 and DT 'won' by 40k~
Ok other than this fantasy that another candidate will be pickedNot sure what to read out of this...Enthusiasm gap is real.
My wife thinks Joe Rogen should be president.This is simultaneously the most shocking and least shocking thing ever.
ToshPeter Tosh - I think he's dead, but would really get the black AND white male stoner college voter
Ok other than this fantasy that another candidate will be pickedNot sure what to read out of this...Enthusiasm gap is real.
What is the solution
Unlike any other election in my lifetime
This VP pick seems pretty critical
Conceivably could be some one who might need to take over before 2024
Not going to matter who he picks for VP as long as it’s Kamala HarrisI will say she isn't getting a lot of thumbs up from the black community from her prior work as CA's AG
Biden is going to annihilate him
Trump just spent millions on ads in Ohio
Think about it
I get it..Gavroche didn’t want Biden and that’s fine
Not going to matter who he picks for VP as long as it’s Kamala Harris
It doesn’t matter who he picks
That’s the reality
Biden has been pretty invisible recently, and that seems as much a strategic choice as a practical one. Even the fact that the Dems are likely not going to have a convention, does too.I think it is smart to continue to let Donnie put his foot in his mouth and do stupid things
Do you not think that the Dems are going with the strategy of not rocking the boat and having this be a referendum on 4 years of Trump?
I think if you're looking for someone who can step right in and do the job who comes from a similar ideological perspective, then Amy is your girl. If you're looking for someone who might inspire more voters to come out, Stacey might be your girl.Every poll of young and/or black voters say they want Warren as VP. Every one.
Of course that's assuming you're limiting yourself to girls, which Sleepy has already boxed himself into doing.
Of course that's assuming you're limiting yourself to girls, which Sleepy has already boxed himself into doing.
I think if you're looking for someone who can step right in and do the job who comes from a similar ideological perspective, then Amy is your girl. If you're looking for someone who might inspire more voters to come out, Stacey might be your girl.Every poll of young and/or black voters say they want Warren as VP. Every one.
Of course that's assuming you're limiting yourself to girls, which Sleepy has already boxed himself into doing.
I think if you're looking for someone who can step right in and do the job who comes from a similar ideological perspective, then Amy is your girl. If you're looking for someone who might inspire more voters to come out, Stacey might be your girl.Every poll of young and/or black voters say they want Warren as VP. Every one.
Of course that's assuming you're limiting yourself to girls, which Sleepy has already boxed himself into doing.
Please post links to these polls because I can't find any. She's always struck me as the favorite of the pink pussy hat crowd by not necessarily African-Americans.Here's one (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elizabeth-warren-biden-vice-president-cbs-news-poll/) (infographic about halfway down has racial splits).
Please post links to these polls because I can't find any. She's always struck me as the favorite of the pink pussy hat crowd by not necessarily African-Americans.Here's one (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elizabeth-warren-biden-vice-president-cbs-news-poll/) (infographic about halfway down has racial splits).
Here's another (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/poll-biden-vice-president-experience-187056) (fourth non-italicized paragraph from the bottom).
Here's a third (https://morningconsult.com/2020/05/27/biden-warren-vice-president-poll/).
While I cannot find a formal article on this CBS poll from last week, here (https://twitter.com/Toure/status/1266221109004906497) is another reference to AA specific VP polling numbers showing Warren in the lead.
as I said and proven by these pols, I don't think the black voters are particularly jazzed about Kamala
Also, I think Amy is kinda screwed in that she was involved with a case where she let the Officer who killed George Floyd go without punishment for an incident 15 years ago...I don't know all the details, but any connection to that would be a 3rd rail
Blacks don't like Kamala because they also view her as law enforcement.Ding, ding, ding
Correct on both Kamala and Klobs (who I like) -- this is not the specific moment in time for them. Val Demmings, on the other hand. . .as I said and proven by these pols, I don't think the black voters are particularly jazzed about Kamala
Also, I think Amy is kinda screwed in that she was involved with a case where she let the Officer who killed George Floyd go without punishment for an incident 15 years ago...I don't know all the details, but any connection to that would be a 3rd rail
Blacks don't like Kamala because they also view her as law enforcement.
I'm not speaking to the wisdom of the ages nor explaining it, really, just reporting there are way too many polls of AA's preference at this point for this to just be a fluke or pure name recognition.Please post links to these polls because I can't find any. She's always struck me as the favorite of the pink pussy hat crowd by not necessarily African-Americans.Here's one (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elizabeth-warren-biden-vice-president-cbs-news-poll/) (infographic about halfway down has racial splits).
Here's another (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/15/poll-biden-vice-president-experience-187056) (fourth non-italicized paragraph from the bottom).
Here's a third (https://morningconsult.com/2020/05/27/biden-warren-vice-president-poll/).
While I cannot find a formal article on this CBS poll from last week, here (https://twitter.com/Toure/status/1266221109004906497) is another reference to AA specific VP polling numbers showing Warren in the lead.
That's interesting. She was well behind both Biden and Bernie in Presidential polling among African-Americans.
Would it be wise to choose a 77/71 age ticket?
as I said and proven by these pols, I don't think the black voters are particularly jazzed about Kamala
Also, I think Amy is kinda screwed in that she was involved with a case where she let the Officer who killed George Floyd go without punishment for an incident 15 years ago...I don't know all the details, but any connection to that would be a 3rd rail
Blacks don't like Kamala because they also view her as law enforcement.
Correct on both Kamala and Klobs (who I like) -- this is not the specific moment in time for them. Val Demmings, on the other hand. . .as I said and proven by these pols, I don't think the black voters are particularly jazzed about Kamala
Also, I think Amy is kinda screwed in that she was involved with a case where she let the Officer who killed George Floyd go without punishment for an incident 15 years ago...I don't know all the details, but any connection to that would be a 3rd rail
Blacks don't like Kamala because they also view her as law enforcement.
YEAH true, but I think she plays differently.Yeah, I agree.
He needs to shore up the youth vote.
This is my point. I do not understand what geographically or demographically she adds! She doesn’t move the needle for youth or women, or for women as much as Abrams does (a person whose resume is so wax paper thin I’m stunned she gets mentioned, but I digress...)He needs to shore up the youth vote.
or, at a minimum, get a boost in a swing state. remind me where harris is from?...
I just don’t know what Harris does to help Biden. He needs to shore up the youth vote. She does not.
I mean, Warren does. And for some reason, Stacy Abrams.I just don’t know what Harris does to help Biden. He needs to shore up the youth vote. She does not.
Who does? Joe Rogan, of course.
I do not understand what geographically or demographically she adds!
Abrams (a person whose resume is so wax paper thin I’m stunned she gets mentioned, but I digress...)
That is a key reason she is in contention
Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do
Also this half Asian thing is such a crock
Need I remind you Obama is half white
The sad reality is that fact may make Harris more palatable to many people
Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do
That is a key reason she is in contention
Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do
there is a good argument to have a bulldog as a VP to punch and attack from the side without sullying the record of the Candidate
I think she would eat pence alive and respond to every sad Team Trump tweet like a boss and make trump look small
She doesn't deliver a state, but seems that rarely helps
so does she depress the vote... is the question
Also this half Asian thing is such a crock
Need I remind you Obama is half white
The sad reality is that fact may make Harris more palatable to many people
Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do
Obama married a strong, beautiful black woman who gave him more cred with Blacks. Kamala married a white Jewish guy. He was also a community activist, she was law enforcement.
Also this half Asian thing is such a crock
Need I remind you Obama is half white
The sad reality is that fact may make Harris more palatable to many people
Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do
Obama married a strong, beautiful black woman who gave him more cred with Blacks.
Short of (possibly) Hillary Clinton, no VP would fire up the GOP voting base more to come out than Michelle Obama, who is so hilariously unqualified she makes Stacy Abrams look like a founding father.Also this half Asian thing is such a crock
Need I remind you Obama is half white
The sad reality is that fact may make Harris more palatable to many people
Another thing that’s great about Harris? She will eat Pence alive and can be ruthless in general something Biden is not prone (maybe able anymore?) to do
Obama married a strong, beautiful black woman who gave him more cred with Blacks.
how's this for a scenario: Biden picks Michelle Obama as his VP. he serves his single term, and we then get 8 years of Obama v2.
i'd be OK with that.
Yeah, Michelle, while she is great...zero government experience (worked for trump ;) )Trump has been an unmitigated failure in no short part because he was woefully unqualified. We are supposed to be the party of adults.
:PI was hoping the ;) would imply sarcasm...Yeah, Michelle, while she is great...zero government experience (worked for trump ;) )Trump has been an unmitigated failure in no short part because he was woefully unqualified. We are supposed to be the party of adults.
I couldn’t tell if you were saying his lack of experience (being an outsider) is part of what got him elected (“worked for him”) which is true. But his inability to even do the most basic functions of the office should’ve disproven the idea that someone from the business world can just walk in and run the office of the Presidency which I would hope is the lesson Dems take away and don’t do something stupid over the next decade like run Michelle, Oprah or Mark Cuban for President.:PI was hoping the ;) would imply sarcasm...Yeah, Michelle, while she is great...zero government experience (worked for trump ;) )Trump has been an unmitigated failure in no short part because he was woefully unqualified. We are supposed to be the party of adults.
could be Joni is going to pay a price tooI gotta see some more polling before I believe this seat is seriously up for grabs. I still think Trump take Iowa easily and that rising tide is gonna float some boats.
recent polling
Iowa Senate GE:
Theresa Greenfield (D) 45% (+2)
Joni Ernst (R-inc) 43%
I agree...and it was an Emily's list poll...so not sure on the credibilitycould be Joni is going to pay a price tooI gotta see some more polling before I believe this seat is seriously up for grabs. I still think Trump take Iowa easily and that rising tide is gonna float some boats.
recent polling
Iowa Senate GE:
Theresa Greenfield (D) 45% (+2)
Joni Ernst (R-inc) 43%
I drove to Leesburg today
I swear people looked at me funny there for wearing a mask
90 minutes on America’s roads is all it took to remember how many assholes there are in this country
I drove to Leesburg todayWhile you were in your car? Yeah, I look funny at car mask people too.
I swear people looked at me funny there for wearing a mask
No I was on sidewalk
Not going to lie
It did give me slight pause regarding November
No I was on sidewalk
Not going to lie
It did give me slight pause regarding November
You don't need a mask outdoors if you can maintain 6+ distance from people at all times. I've never worn a mask outdoors.
Why are people so eager to second guess me and argue stupidities?Isn't that the whole reason for the internet!
No I was on sidewalk
Not going to lie
It did give me slight pause regarding November
You don't need a mask outdoors if you can maintain 6+ distance from people at all times. I've never worn a mask outdoors.
so that implys there are 10 foot wide sidewalks
i have a feeling i know what hatch will be showing up today ::)
Could be a set up?i have a feeling i know what hatch will be showing up today ::)
did not KNEEL that one coming... thought for sure it would be ANTIFA Provocateur, fell harder than pushed.
#ditchmitch is catching some momentum!This and that Indiana Senate race will go exactly the same way where both will look competitive with random one-off polls showing the Dem ahead and in November the GOP will skate to like 9 point victories.
Kentucky Senate GE:
Amy McGrath (D) 41% (+1)
Mitch McConnell (R-inc) 40%
RMG Research/@USTermLimits 5/21-24
https://termlimits.com/mcgrath/ #KYsen
#ditchmitch is catching some momentum!This and that Indiana Senate race will go exactly the same way where both will look competitive with random one-off polls showing the Dem ahead and in November the GOP will skate to like 9 point victories.
Kentucky Senate GE:
Amy McGrath (D) 41% (+1)
Mitch McConnell (R-inc) 40%
RMG Research/@USTermLimits 5/21-24
https://termlimits.com/mcgrath/ #KYsen
I just heard if the Senate flips, Bernie would be the head of the Budget Committee....interesting
also that same poll (from may 21-24) had trump with a +17 for TrumpCorrect - McGrath is far from a lock.
https://www.termlimits.com/mcgrath/
So pretty sure only KY that Dems will have is Jelly
Beshear did win the Gov as a dem....with a razor-thin margin on an off-year
Just learned that McGrath doesn't even have a lock on the dem nomination for that seat
as Booker just got an endorsement from Sanders, AOC and others
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32815217/kentucky-senate-democrats-amy-mcgrath-charles-booker/
StupidI know you are but what am I
Obviously everyone should do their part to make sure Biden wins as resounding a victory as possible.
‘We’re thinking landslide’: Beyond D.C., GOP officials see Trump on glide path to reelection (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457)Also, if you ask the top brass at the GOP "is trump going to win" for a news article that will appear in politico, of course, they are going to say "we are going to win in a landslide" and not have to back it up with actual facts
Conventional indicators suggest the president’s bid for a second term is in jeopardy. But state and local GOP officials see a different election unfolding.
Alas, nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people
some feel being asked/required to wear a mask is unconstitutional...(https://media2.giphy.com/media/M8zYTs4NCbk2ashVnK/giphy.gif)
some feel being asked/required to wear a mask is unconstitutional...(https://media2.giphy.com/media/M8zYTs4NCbk2ashVnK/giphy.gif)
The GIF game is very strong here...
I'm a little shocked that Trumps approval rating avg on 538 is still in the 40sI think one of the important distinctions is polling of likely voters shows over 50+% very likely voting for Biden — a mark Hillary never got over. It is super hard to get people to change their mind once it’s made up, a reason Trumps approva rating floor is so high, but also a giant concern for him because that 50+% consistent figure for Biden gives him a very narrow electoral needle to thread to victory. Much more narrow than the one in 2016.
He was in the 36-37 around the Comey firing in May 2017
He was around 39 during the gov't shutdown
I know it's unlikely that he'll go below 35 even if he shoots someone on 5th ave
I would have thought it would have been lower considering the last 4 weeks/4 months
He does look like he's getting it where it hurts in the swing states
Biden...has an average advantage of 3 points or greater in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin...which is all that really matters
Alas, nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people‘We’re thinking landslide’: Beyond D.C., GOP officials see Trump on glide path to reelection (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457)Also, if you ask the top brass at the GOP "is trump going to win" for a news article that will appear in politico, of course, they are going to say "we are going to win in a landslide" and not have to back it up with actual facts
Conventional indicators suggest the president’s bid for a second term is in jeopardy. But state and local GOP officials see a different election unfolding.
Not to mention what sidehatch refuses to accept: Hillary was leading until James Comey interferedcan confirm
I think one of the important distinctions is polling of likely voters shows over 50+% very likely voting for Bidendidn't smakie post an Economist article that Dems pretty much have to get 53-54% of the popular vote to win the Electoral college
If he did, then either The Economist is wrong or you are missing some nuance. Hillary was 100,000 votes away from an electoral win and only garnered 48.x% of the popular vote. 53% might be some figure that guarantees it when you normalize for states but anyone telling you there is no path for Biden to win electoral college with a mere 51-49% popular vote lead is wrong. The demographics (especially in suburbs) have changed in 3.5 years.I think one of the important distinctions is polling of likely voters shows over 50+% very likely voting for Bidendidn't smakie post an Economist article that Dems pretty much have to get 53-54% of the popular vote to win the Electoral college
If he did, then either The Economist is wrong or you are missing some nuance.Both those seem likely candidates
I'm a little shocked that Trumps approval rating avg on 538 is still in the 40s
He was in the 36-37 around the Comey firing in May 2017
He was around 39 during the gov't shutdown
I know it's unlikely that he'll go below 35 even if he shoots someone on 5th ave
I would have thought it would have been lower considering the last 4 weeks/4 months
He does look like he's getting it where it hurts in the swing states
Biden...has an average advantage of 3 points or greater in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin...which is all that really matters
Alas, nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people‘We’re thinking landslide’: Beyond D.C., GOP officials see Trump on glide path to reelection (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/15/trump-glide-reelection-republican-officials-316457)Also, if you ask the top brass at the GOP "is trump going to win" for a news article that will appear in politico, of course, they are going to say "we are going to win in a landslide" and not have to back it up with actual facts
Conventional indicators suggest the president’s bid for a second term is in jeopardy. But state and local GOP officials see a different election unfolding.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/politics/americans-unhappy-polling-analysis/index.htmlJulians America suffers no such morale issues. Stiff upper lip!
pretty sure which side or hatch is showing up later today :)Hmm...not sure why this bot has me tagged for abuse
Sometimes it appears John Roberts is the only thing keeping us from going over the cliff
Probably the best thing GWB did as president was appoint him...
And citizens utd?and Jeb had like 100mil in the bank and couldn't beat trump in the primries with that war chest...but to be fair he didn't have putin in his corner
What’s your argument?
Hillary outspent Trump
Sometimes it appears John Roberts is the only thing keeping us from going over the cliff
Probably the best thing GWB did as president was appoint him...
And citizens utd?
What’s your argument?
Hillary outspent Trump
And citizens utd?
What’s your argument?
Hillary outspent Trump
I was talking more about the system that led to Trump rather than the specifics of the 2016 election.
Citizen's United has had a massive influence on everything, and fundamentally altered the balance of the system,
But word is that a bunch of k-pop fans were trolling a certain person's campaign and requested that large number of rally tickets that keeps getting touted.
If this is true kudos given..
Just learned that McGrath doesn't even have a lock on the dem nomination for that seat
as Booker just got an endorsement from Sanders, AOC and others
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32815217/kentucky-senate-democrats-amy-mcgrath-charles-booker/
Correct - McGrath is far from a lock.
But word is that a bunch of k-pop fans were trolling a certain person's campaign and requested that large number of rally tickets that keeps getting touted.
If this is true kudos given..
i'm not sure this was such a great thing. it gives trump a talking/shouting point that he can spin ("ONE MILLION WANT TO COME TO MY RALLY!"). the arena will be full regardless. i'd be down with this plan if it resulted in trump walking out to a mostly empty arena - "hey, where is everybody?" - but there are enough trumpers hanging around outside the venue that they can flood it with stand-ins pretty quickly.
Got my eyes on this...maybe for sadistic reasons as Mitch is likely to win
but other than Trump losing, I so want Mitch to suffer defeat
And citizens utd?
What’s your argument?
Hillary outspent Trump
I was talking more about the system that led to Trump rather than the specifics of the 2016 election.
Citizen's United has had a massive influence on everything, and fundamentally altered the balance of the system.
And citizens utd?
What’s your argument?
Hillary outspent Trump
I was talking more about the system that led to Trump rather than the specifics of the 2016 election.
Citizen's United has had a massive influence on everything, and fundamentally altered the balance of the system.
Yawn
Correct. This is a non-starter. The DNC should waste not one cent on Kentucky Senate.Got my eyes on this...maybe for sadistic reasons as Mitch is likely to win
but other than Trump losing, I so want Mitch to suffer defeat
Update...Mitch is DEFINITELY going to win
KENTUCKY
Trump 57% (+20)
Biden 37%
But word is that a bunch of k-pop fans were trolling a certain person's campaign and requested that large number of rally tickets that keeps getting touted.
If this is true kudos given..
i'm not sure this was such a great thing. it gives trump a talking/shouting point that he can spin ("ONE MILLION WANT TO COME TO MY RALLY!"). the arena will be full regardless. i'd be down with this plan if it resulted in trump walking out to a mostly empty arena - "hey, where is everybody?" - but there are enough trumpers hanging around outside the venue that they can flood it with stand-ins pretty quickly.
fair point, but it still amuses me.. plus, it means all the "data" they are getting is worthless.
to huge acronym rights(https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/i-see-what-you-did-there-gif-12.gif)
he was appointed by a Republican president..have you seen the other conservative justices????Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
But word is that a bunch of k-pop fans were trolling a certain person's campaign and requested that large number of rally tickets that keeps getting touted.
If this is true kudos given..
i'm not sure this was such a great thing. it gives trump a talking/shouting point that he can spin ("ONE MILLION WANT TO COME TO MY RALLY!"). the arena will be full regardless. i'd be down with this plan if it resulted in trump walking out to a mostly empty arena - "hey, where is everybody?" - but there are enough trumpers hanging around outside the venue that they can flood it with stand-ins pretty quickly.
fair point, but it still amuses me.. plus, it means all the "data" they are getting is worthless.
you're assuming they care about the validity or worth of data... trump is happy to tout unfounded, out-of-context results that align with his objectives. he doesn't care where the numbers came from.
I didn’t say it’s not important but what are you arguing? We would be better off with another Alito? John Roberts has sided with liberals on some big decisions that have impacted millions positively from health care to DACA to huge acronym rights
Just recognize it and don’t be so immature: “Oh it’s not exactly what I want on every ruling so he sucks!”
Righto Obamacare wasn’t important
There is no saving you Gavroche!
You are more pessimistic and negative than me...which is saying something
Just when quite possibly the idiot Congressman from FL couldn’t do anything dumber he announces to the world he has a “son”... we really are living in Idiocracy
Just when quite possibly the idiot Congressman from FL couldn’t do anything dumber he announces to the world he has a “son”... we really are living in Idiocracy
kosmo-to-english translation: GOP Rep. Gaetz reveals Cuban son on Twitter after clash with Dem congressman (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gaetz-reveals-adopted-cuban-son-clash-richmond)
Matt Gaetz is on the bus
Gaetz is still on bus
You put all the people you really can’t stand on the bus and drive it off the cliffI don't think this will fit all of the GOP
You only put a few politicians on busSeems like this is worthy of a thread.
wow...fox news poll if voting today
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/06/1862/1048/BidenPoll2.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
I'm surprised they even published the results
Elizabeth Warren is black?Tulsi seems to think she should be a candidate for Female POC
Elizabeth Warren is black?No, she isn't black. I was saying Klobs comment is a direct shot against Warren and for Kamala.
I thought she was Native American?
I heard word that Team Trump is trying to roll out an App for news, so they can skip the middle man
yeah but twitter and FB allow people to post negative and contradictory responses (even if they are true)I heard word that Team Trump is trying to roll out an App for news, so they can skip the middle man
well, they already have an app that is a social media ecosystem unto itself, so i imagine that any "news" service they roll out will be part of that app.
yeah but twitter and FB allow people to post negative and contradictory responses (even if they are true)I heard word that Team Trump is trying to roll out an App for news, so they can skip the middle man
well, they already have an app that is a social media ecosystem unto itself, so i imagine that any "news" service they roll out will be part of that app.
In their own ecosystem, they could just delete those comments with no repercussions
https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2020/6/22/elizabeth-warren-leads-the-vice-presidential-choice
New polling in which Warren continues to be the favorite VP candidate among virtually every subgroup of voters including youth and POC.
Not sure if you’re being serious.https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2020/6/22/elizabeth-warren-leads-the-vice-presidential-choice
New polling in which Warren continues to be the favorite VP candidate among virtually every subgroup of voters including youth and POC.
But I just know that Kamala is going to be better with African Americans.
I doubt it...agreed, was ready for a response, but then realized
I doubt it...agreed, was ready for a response, but then realized
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Kidding aside, the problem with Warren is the gymnastics that the D's have to do to hold onto her seat. Cannot risk letting Mitch keep the Senate, even for 160 days.I agree...the MA gov is a Republican and will certainly appoint a MAGA diehard and that will be bad
I believe the Dems are trying to quickly pass a “senate replacements must be someone of the same party” bill. But yeah, that’s in play.Kidding aside, the problem with Warren is the gymnastics that the D's have to do to hold onto her seat. Cannot risk letting Mitch keep the Senate, even for 160 days.I agree...the MA gov is a Republican and will certainly appoint a MAGA diehard and that will be bad
never gonna happenI believe the Dems are trying to quickly pass a “senate replacements must be someone of the same party” bill. But yeah, that’s in play.Kidding aside, the problem with Warren is the gymnastics that the D's have to do to hold onto her seat. Cannot risk letting Mitch keep the Senate, even for 160 days.I agree...the MA gov is a Republican and will certainly appoint a MAGA diehard and that will be bad
If I am not mistaken, MA Dems have veto-proof majorities in both houses of their legislature.never gonna happenI believe the Dems are trying to quickly pass a “senate replacements must be someone of the same party” bill. But yeah, that’s in play.Kidding aside, the problem with Warren is the gymnastics that the D's have to do to hold onto her seat. Cannot risk letting Mitch keep the Senate, even for 160 days.I agree...the MA gov is a Republican and will certainly appoint a MAGA diehard and that will be bad
The only potential downside to Harris might be if they find something really bad about her time as California AG or how she climbed up the California Democratic Party...using that San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown?I mean, dude there’s all sorts of stuff to go off about re: her time as AG. She wanted to deny people parole because of the impact their loss of free labor would have on the CA prison system’s finances. I’m in the middle of something but I’ll circle back with some articles on this tomorrow.
Maybe that..otherwise what is not to like?
She’s not liberal enough? To me that’s a plus.. My message to the progressives is “You get nothing!”
If I am not mistaken, MA Dems have veto-proof majorities in both houses of their legislature.never gonna happenI believe the Dems are trying to quickly pass a “senate replacements must be someone of the same party” bill. But yeah, that’s in play.Kidding aside, the problem with Warren is the gymnastics that the D's have to do to hold onto her seat. Cannot risk letting Mitch keep the Senate, even for 160 days.I agree...the MA gov is a Republican and will certainly appoint a MAGA diehard and that will be bad
EDIT: I have confirmed.
Come on man it’s different to win the nomination on the backs of blacks (I am done saying African American but someone clue me in if I shouldn’t be..it is getting a bit ridiculous) than it is to get every black person out there - people that don’t usually vote in primaries-you can to vote in the general..to wait in line five hours! I happen to believe black women are going to get out more to vote if a black woman is on the ticket. This idea that they are going to en masse come out to vote for Warren in the cities of Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Detroit, etc. well. I just don’t see her maximizing the vote
Moreover doubling down on old and white just isn’t going to happen.
It just comes down to how you view 2016...why did Obama coalition break down? Which part needs the most shoring up..some people think we have to go for the imaginary Trumpers that could be swayed (they point to Klobuchar), others think it’s the progressive wing, etc
As far as Kamala Harris I listed her attributes a few weeks ago..we already did this...she is super vetted, experienced and ready to take over on day 2, relatively young, good looking, sharpest tool in shed, can be effective attack dog, will whip Pence, etc
There is a way better picture
I don’t get it..how is he supposed to look? He is in his 70s after a long late night flight!
People desperately reading too much into it..that he is washed up and knows it..
He is going to fight back...hard..could get scary
There is a way better picture
I don’t get it..how is he supposed to look? He is in his 70s after a long late night flight!
that meme is about the caption, not about the picture.People desperately reading too much into it..that he is washed up and knows it..
He is going to fight back...hard..could get scary
agreed. am scared.
There is a way better picture
I don’t get it..how is he supposed to look? He is in his 70s after a long late night flight!
that meme is about the caption, not about the picture.People desperately reading too much into it..that he is washed up and knows it..
He is going to fight back...hard..could get scary
agreed. am scared.
Is it just me (who admittedly doesn't like Biden much) or where Biden flubs his line and says "I'm coming to you for ask a quick favor." And maybe it's worse because my default has CC on it so it really highlights. I admit to not being a Biden fan, but what I don't get is why not just re shoot? Did they leave that flub in there on purpose, do they think it humanizes him or something? I don't get it. Googling it to find the ad, and I guess I'm not the only one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pLe_muSxbw
There is a way better picture
I don’t get it..how is he supposed to look? He is in his 70s after a long late night flight!
that meme is about the caption, not about the picture.People desperately reading too much into it..that he is washed up and knows it..
He is going to fight back...hard..could get scary
agreed. am scared.
Is it just me (who admittedly doesn't like Biden much) or where Biden flubs his line and says "I'm coming to you for ask a quick favor." And maybe it's worse because my default has CC on it so it really highlights. I admit to not being a Biden fan, but what I don't get is why not just re shoot? Did they leave that flub in there on purpose, do they think it humanizes him or something? I don't get it. Googling it to find the ad, and I guess I'm not the only one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pLe_muSxbw
I think many Americans speak imperfectly like that.
And to me it reinforces the narrative that Biden is past his sell by date, but again... fully recognize that I come into this not liking him.
And to me it reinforces the narrative that Biden is past his sell by date, but again... fully recognize that I come into this not liking him.
and this makes biden worse than trump? four more years?
yet it feels she has absolutely zero shot at the VP slot.
I mean, do you know anyone who seriously thinks she’ll get it?yet it feels she has absolutely zero shot at the VP slot.
quit being such a drama queen. she is most definitely in contention, just isn't in first place according to some/many folks. not being first <> not being in the race.
I mean, do you know anyone who seriously thinks she’ll get it?yet it feels she has absolutely zero shot at the VP slot.
quit being such a drama queen. she is most definitely in contention, just isn't in first place according to some/many folks. not being first <> not being in the race.
Kind of amazing
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/24/bidens-big-lead-in-the-polls-could-be-partly-behind-markets-drop-and-may-lead-to-more-weakness.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/24/bidens-big-lead-in-the-polls-could-be-partly-behind-markets-drop-and-may-lead-to-more-weakness.html)
should we just ignore this stuff and act like it's the opposite
I do think it was different 4 years agoshould we just ignore this stuff and act like it's the opposite
remind me, how did that work out 4 years ago? oh wait...
And whether you like him or not Roberts (and RBG hanging on) are probably the only thing standing between us and a full fledged totalitarian fascist state.not sure I would have predicted Chief Justice John Roberts as the lynchpin to keeping the US together
So spare me the whining about how you don’t like this Roberts vote or that..we all wish he was more liberal but he was appointed by a Republican president..have you seen the other conservative justices????
file under "dem pipe dream"... been seeing a lot of chatter about this:This is not happening but if we are going to play hypothetical world, if Trump is dropping out, the repudiation of all things Trump would stain Pence. You’d probably get some sort of weird Romney/Rubio unity ticket that ran to the center.
Trump in ‘fragile’ mood and may drop out of 2020 race if poll numbers don’t improve, GOP insiders tell Fox News (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-2020-us-election-drop-out-fox-news-republican-a9592036.html)
if he did do it, he'd obviously spin it as "don't need to run, since i've already accomplished so much. also, media/elections/vote by mail/etc. so unfair they won't give me chance in this rigged election." pence would pick up the republican mantle and be the november fall guy.
personally, i don't see his ego allowing him to quit.
another theory is that if he loses, he'll quit before biden's inauguration, and president pence would then give him a blanket pardon for all federal crimes. NY will still want to have a word with him...
if we are going to play hypothetical world, if Trump is dropping out, the repudiation of all things Trump would stain Pence. You’d probably get some sort of weird Romney/Rubio unity ticket that ran to the center.
You’re taking what I said as “admit they were wrong” where I see it as “pivot on a dime to win”, which Republicans are much better at than Dems.if we are going to play hypothetical world, if Trump is dropping out, the repudiation of all things Trump would stain Pence. You’d probably get some sort of weird Romney/Rubio unity ticket that ran to the center.
ah, interesting observation - you're assuming most GOP'ers have enough shame and humility to admit they were wrong to kowtow to trump for the past 4 years. right-wingers aren't know for admitting their wrongs and changing their minds. also, given the short timeline, they'd have to be confident that trump supporters wouldn't line up behind pence - a block they would need to motivate if they even pretended to try to win. i'm certainly hoping that the minute trump is out of the picture we'll return to some semblance of sanity, but who knows...
in case you have questions about what happens if a candidate dies or withdraws, this is the best answer i could find (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/16/what-else-happens-if-us-presidential-candidate-withdraws-or-dies-before-election-is-over-part-2/).
You’re taking what I said as “admit they were wrong” where I see it as “pivot on a dime to win”, which Republicans are much better at than Dems.So you are correct in this... I do think the landscape has changed
GOPers aren’t moving on low taxes and abortion and guns and none of those ideas are unique to Trump. They will case aside the cult of his personality, the Mexican thing, and aversion to masks they second it costs them an election as they always do.
Republicans aren’t going to roll over..we cannot have a repeat of the Obama presidency which while fantastic on form has to , in retrospect, be viewed as ineffectual and having at the very least not done enough to stop the rise of fascismMitch and the GOP were VERY impactful on their tactics to give zero wins to Obama for the last 6 years
QuoteJust learned that McGrath doesn't even have a lock on the dem nomination for that seat
as Booker just got an endorsement from Sanders, AOC and others
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32815217/kentucky-senate-democrats-amy-mcgrath-charles-booker/Correct - McGrath is far from a lock.
Dang McGrath seems to be falling apart (even with a 30-40 million campaign chest)
Of course...and Mitch will still be there either as majority leader or minority leaderI can't believe there is no dirt clinging to the crypt-keepers fingernails
Voting...we are likely to see a complete breakdown on November 3this is my fear and the States are really not taking the responsibility here
QuoteJust learned that McGrath doesn't even have a lock on the dem nomination for that seat
as Booker just got an endorsement from Sanders, AOC and others
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a32815217/kentucky-senate-democrats-amy-mcgrath-charles-booker/Correct - McGrath is far from a lock.
Dang McGrath seems to be falling apart (even with a 30-40 million campaign chest)
Looks like it's going to be McGrath v Mitch as the results are being finalized
instead of going after winnable causes like ejecting Susan Collins into the sun.This is quite possibly cheaper than winning a senate race currently.
The filibuster has a real long history..it’s a big deal if it’s eliminatedI do agree ...but in the last few decades the use has stopped congress from working at all
who said that...I love polls
You are getting way ahead of yourself for someone that claims not to want to buy into polls
I don’t see it like that...they are laying the groundwork for the huge political cost democrats will pay if they win control and eliminate filibuster
The filibuster has a real long history..it’s a big deal if it’s eliminated
Really!
I think they should or welcome to Obama 2009
I am hoping it’s a joke candidacy but not sure I feel comfortable assuming so yetI can't believe this is serious
Would it be possible to win the presidency as a write-in? asking for a friendThis is actually an interesting query because depending on different states deadlines, would a write-in candidate even be able to have named electors?
The worst part would be if you got the votes and they were like....umm this is a fake name and this vote is voidWould it be possible to win the presidency as a write-in? asking for a friend90% of America en masse wrote in Julian for President
I have it registered as a d/b/a and only file with SSA as a known alias. It’s cool.The worst part would be if you got the votes and they were like....umm this is a fake name and this vote is voidWould it be possible to win the presidency as a write-in? asking for a friend90% of America en masse wrote in Julian for President
I have it registered as a d/b/a and only file with SSA as a known alias. It’s cool.The worst part would be if you got the votes and they were like....umm this is a fake name and this vote is voidWould it be possible to win the presidency as a write-in? asking for a friend90% of America en masse wrote in Julian for President
would it be listed as something like Bob "Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER" Simpson on the ballot (note I did just Doxx Jules)
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Its like how if you write in Don Trump or Joe Biden instead of Donald Trump or Joseph Biden, it counts. Clear intent of the voter.I have it registered as a d/b/a and only file with SSA as a known alias. It’s cool.The worst part would be if you got the votes and they were like....umm this is a fake name and this vote is voidWould it be possible to win the presidency as a write-in? asking for a friend90% of America en masse wrote in Julian for President
would it be listed as something like Bob "Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKER" Simpson on the ballot (note I did just Doxx Jules)
I got to admit I could see Biden picking Susan Rice...
Tammy Duckworth also
I guess while I see Harris as the favorite, given the political context, Biden is freer to pick whoever he wants..I just don’t know how well he gets along with the VP candidates . he doesn’t really have much to worry about...
I suppose Susan Rice will get some wacko right wingers frothing about Benghazi but so what?
I love you man but you completely missed my point or steamrolled over it
none of this type of analysis takes into account who Biden thinks will make his best Vice President..who he feels he can work with to govern America and who he would feel most comfortable succeeding him
If I was Biden I would be thinking I am going to win this thing and going to inherit a shitshow..who do I want to work with etc...
The Rice advantage is obviously foreign policy and the US is going to have its work cut out on that front after what has happened the past four years... I mean we are going to have to eat serious crow and do a mea culpa...recommit to multilateralism...offer up a challenge to Russia and China... the amount of stuff we will have to do to make things right with Germany etc is endless..Joe is 77! He ideally could delegate all this to Rice and focus on the homefront (working Congress m)
I wouldn’t be thinking who will give me more votes!!!
No more opinions today....so we wait until tomorrow to hear about Trump's tax returns.Umm, not sure what happened with the 5 remaining rulings?
just means 24 hours of batshit crazy tweets from donnie
So you think Biden at 77, and given his experience as VP, is going to want a purely ceremonial VP?
Biden is also picking an heir apparent, and it needs to be someone that American's can imagine taking over from him.co-signed
Mary Trump's bookthat last bit is the icing
(with an imprint of a missing can of caviar in the cellophane wrapping)
But Biden was not at all a ceremonial VP!! He was very active
We probably agree and are just applying different meanings to words
I could see Biden picking Susan Rice but still think it will be Kamala
At this point if I were Biden I would wait as long as possible to decide...let the pick come to you
All 3 know there way around DC.
Which of them have been at shows at 930?
Duckworth - GW Masters Degree
Harris - Howard BA
Rice - National Cathedral School Valedictorian
My money would be on Harris, but Duckworth as a decorated, wounded vet "from" Illinois instead of a coastal state checks a lot of boxes....
Which of them have been at shows at 930?I did bump into Dennis Kucinich at a willie show @ 930
Which of them have been at shows at 930?I did bump into Dennis Kucinich at a willie show @ 930
be interesting to get some deets on who attened 930 shows...that would help me make my decision
Willie and Kucinich have been tight for a while and I'm sure willie put Dennis +1 on the guest listWhich of them have been at shows at 930?I did bump into Dennis Kucinich at a willie show @ 930
be interesting to get some deets on who attened 930 shows...that would help me make my decision
Elizabeth Kucinich worked for the Center for Food Safety and I heard from someone working there that one of the staff was married to someone at the Club and so staff could get the occasional free ticket.
Not Harris, please. She ran an awful campaign. Showed some poor judgement as well.I really could be down with anyone except Harris although Stacey Abrams’ popularity befuddles me.
At this point I would be shocked if it wasn’t Harris, Rice or DuckworthI would be legit stunned if it was Rice or Duckworth, to be honest. I feel like those are the least likely of the 7-ish candidates we keep hearing about.
Just checkedI mean, those numbers are bizarro in a lot of ways. Hillary even being listed is wacky.
https://www.electionbettingodds.com/DemVP2020.html
I ain’t crazy
On vera...(that means “we shall see” in French..although might be missing an accent)
No more opinions today....so we wait until tomorrow to hear about Trump's tax returns.Umm, not sure what happened with the 5 remaining rulings?
just means 24 hours of batshit crazy tweets from donnie
Lawrence Hurley@lawrencehurley
No Supreme Court rulings expected today. Awaiting word on when the next ruling day will be. Five cases left
I just can’t see them ruling in a way that is against the president....would love to be wrongmore than normal, I would also love for you to be wrong
Sidehatch, King of the Slams!I just can’t see them ruling in a way that is against the president....would love to be wrongmore than normal, I would also love for you to be wrong
Well, I would think cause it’s not that popular with the voters he needs?
I mean he needs disgruntled Trump supporters, people in the middle...
But do we really think supporting pot is going to get people to the polls?
Look at what boardie Gavroche wrote!Grr...hate when I have to argue with experts.
You argue with me ALL. THE. TIME.Look at what boardie Gavroche wrote!Grr...hate when I have to argue with experts.
But nicely done.
Look at what boardie Gavroche wrote!Just got your book (on audible) that just came out June 20th!
Look at what boardie Gavroche wrote!Just got your book (on audible) that just came out June 20th!
The Kids Are All Left: How Young Voters Will Unite America
Congrats on that!
Man I'm amazed at some the hidden talents our small group of rabble-rousers have
I got nothing...
You argue with me ALL. THE. TIME.Look at what boardie Gavroche wrote!Grr...hate when I have to argue with experts.
But nicely done.
Look at what boardie Gavroche wrote!
Pretty compelling unfortunately
https://theweek.com/articles/924540 (https://theweek.com/articles/924540)
who are we kidding people...I love arguing with experts AND idiotsYou argue with me ALL. THE. TIME.Look at what boardie Gavroche wrote!Grr...hate when I have to argue with experts.
But nicely done.
right, and he hates that too. but he also hates arguing with experts.
Yada would probably be foaming at the mouth!Look at what boardie Gavroche wrote!
Pretty compelling unfortunately
https://theweek.com/articles/924540 (https://theweek.com/articles/924540)
jules, you're slacking - you missed an opportunity for your standard "if me then would be accused of doxxing!!!" reply...
I just remember I bumped into Tim Kaine at the Tommy Stinton/Lemonheads showWhich of them have been at shows at 930?I did bump into Dennis Kucinich at a willie show @ 930
be interesting to get some deets on who attened 930 shows...that would help me make my decision
Stone being pardonedRoger Stone had is sentence commuted...which is different...but I'm the least legalminded person on this board
So any guesses on what October surprises we'll get from team trump
War with Iran or China?
A terrorist attack on US soil
Send $2000 check to every American
So any guesses on what October surprises we'll get from team trump
War with Iran or China?
A terrorist attack on US soil
Send $2000 check to every American
i'm starting to think that even if he could manufacture all three of those, at once, it wouldn't be enough.
or maybe i'm confusing what i believe with what i want...
Yikes... The Federal Death penalty is back
Have a feeling some BLM leader accused of killing a cop might get fast tracked for this
MAGAs would love this
that's the rub as it's not 100% fair or just, so innocent people are getting executedYikes... The Federal Death penalty is back
Have a feeling some BLM leader accused of killing a cop might get fast tracked for this
MAGAs would love this
In theory I'm in favor of the death penalty. They would need to figure out how to mete it out fairly and justly.
So do we think this will be the last we hear from Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III
Wow that was quickI know and on a 5-4 vote, if Merrick Garland had been confirmed, would this have happened
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/14/politics/daniel-lewis-lee-supreme-court-rule-execution/index.html
I guess I don’t understand what makes something a federal crime...Me neither and less common, it's still legal in 28 states
They always do it late on Friday...summer is even better
This is a really banana republic move
Like 2020 already wasn’t totally whacked outDrats... he’s out
Ye@kanyewest
We must now realize the promise of America by trusting God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am running for president of the United States 🇺🇸! #2020VISION
Like 2020 already wasn’t totally whacked outDrats... he’s out
Ye@kanyewest
We must now realize the promise of America by trusting God, unifying our vision and building our future. I am running for president of the United States 🇺🇸! #2020VISION
I was hoping for a three way debate...
I"m still noticing that no MAGA's are getting it
Man....no wonder Trump shitcanned ParscaleYeah good news
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3666
The poll or Parscale?Parscale
I am old enough to remember Trump’s last presidential campaign
I think a lot of the business of the campaign and government works in this manner under Trump.
Because he is a jerk?Mostly, yes
I guess it’s enjoyable to watch him lose his job - I enjoy it-but am guessing Parscale will continue receiving millions for the digital ad buys he does...I understand Brad has personally profited in the tens of millions. When Trump fires someone on his campaign he always seems to keep them around with a different title so Brad stays...
Oh no Sidehatch!!!FUCK!
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/politics/supreme-court-florida-felons/index.html
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EdFNE3NWoAMmCEU?format=png&name=medium)Lets just point out for the record that if this were a photo of the personal info and psychological dossiers I maintain on all of you, Yada would be FOAMING at the mouth about doxxing.
DUDE!
Trump has a ‘file’ on the Hatch
https://twitter.com/nick_ramsey/status/1283892566698729472?s=21
I just, love a lgbt sandwich.Really insensitive of you to exclude quinoa in this day and age.
lettuce, Goya, bacon and tomato
I just, love a lgbt sandwich.Really insensitive of you to exclude quinoa in this day and age.
lettuce, Goya, bacon and tomato
So why did RBG refuse to retire under the Obama presidency?No clue, I think pretty much everyone but Michael Moore and Bill Maher though Hill was going to win by a landslide
I just, love a lgbt sandwich.
lettuce, Goya, bacon and tomato
I love the Lincoln Project!The you should love their new spawn
I just, love a lgbt sandwich.How do you keep the beans from rolling out of the sandwich?
lettuce, Goya, bacon and tomato
because of course they are
Senate GOP proposing five-year shield from coronavirus lawsuits for businesses, health care facilities and more
So why did RBG refuse to retire under the Obama presidency?No clue, I think pretty much everyone but Michael Moore and Bill Maher though Hill was going to win by a landslide
Don't you think Mitch would have pulled the same Merrick garland shit
have you noticed who posts the most in the pot thread ;)
Geezus where to start..this is like a part time job...your memory does you no favors amigo...prevagen
Seems like punk'ing the MAGA's is becoming sport
Militias flocked to Gettysburg to foil a supposed antifa flag burning, an apparent hoax created on social media (https://www.businessinsider.com/gettysburg-antifa-flag-burning-hoax-dupes-right-wing-protesters-2020-7)
these self-proclaimed oath keepers are starting to scare me...as Jello says American Taliban
I"m still noticing that no MAGA's are getting itTwitter Hack: Why Wasn’t Donald Trump Targeted? (https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2020/07/16/twitter-hack-why-wasnt-donald-trump-targeted/#327154487557)
Remember when Marco Rubio announced Carly Fiorini would be his VP in September of 2019?You mean Ted Cruz
Oof. Yes. And it was in April, not September of the year before apparently. I was way off!Remember when Marco Rubio announced Carly Fiorini would be his VP in September of 2019?You mean Ted Cruz
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Why-Cruz-s-pick-of-Fiorina-for-VP-is-odd-on-7380021.php
I know, those Hispanics all look alike, so it's understandableOof. Yes. And it was in April, not September of the year before apparently. I was way off!Remember when Marco Rubio announced Carly Fiorini would be his VP in September of 2019?You mean Ted Cruz
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Why-Cruz-s-pick-of-Fiorina-for-VP-is-odd-on-7380021.php
Part of me says not for another few weeks..Trump is so busy stepping on himselfco-signed
...I don’t see Haley hitching her wagon to Trump given current shit showI'm not so sure about this
“Hail Mary Haley”!!She's gunning for it
Agree on everythingWow...I might have this post framed :)
Payroll taxes help so few. If you are making $20k a year, you are talking $5 a paycheck. It's absurd to think that is going to helpOk, I'd like to retract my error
Oh yeah, if you are uneployed...no benefit for you
Payroll taxes help so few. If you are making $20k a year, you are talking $5 a paycheck. It's absurd to think that is going to helpOk, I'd like to retract my error
Oh yeah, if you are uneployed...no benefit for you
the true number is a person making $20k a year would get $57.6 a pay check
It is also true that the employer also doesn't have to pay that equivalent to the government, so money saved for employers too
Still don't think it's a good idea, just don't like having errors out there
Labron helping to hook up the FL felons
White-collar crimes are typically not felonies*Labron helping to hook up the FL felons
this is TERRIBLE news - we have to assume they're going to vote for their own, i.e. trump, right?
All joking aside, if big money Dem super PACs were smart they would take every cent they’re setting on fire in Kentucky, and spend it on this (and similar) effort(s).Labron helping to hook up the FL felons
this is TERRIBLE news - we have to assume they're going to vote for their own, i.e. trump, right?
White-collar crimes are typically not feloniesLabron helping to hook up the FL felons
this is TERRIBLE news - we have to assume they're going to vote for their own, i.e. trump, right?
All joking aside, if big money Dem super PACs were smart they would take every cent they’re setting on fire in Kentucky, and spend it on this (and similar) effort(s).I saw your girl kirsten gillibrand asking for money for Amy
Not my girl AT ALL, but this poor decision is a better reason to not vote for Gillibrand than any reason people actually had for not voting for Gillibrand.All joking aside, if big money Dem super PACs were smart they would take every cent they’re setting on fire in Kentucky, and spend it on this (and similar) effort(s).I saw your girl kirsten gillibrand asking for money for Amy
Lindsay is on the ropes!He wins by 9% +/- 2.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/509220-graham-harrison-in-statistical-tie-in-senate-race-internal-poll
It’s an internal poll from the D camp...just designed to get people to waste their $Exactly. Much like money spent on McConnells opponent in Kentucky, the SC campaign is just democrats setting money on fire that could be better spent on races in Alaska, Maine, NC, even Iowa.
Biden VP pick is next week....Total Russia hawk...and we kinda need that
I think it’s going to be Susan Rice...
Should Biden let these wackos dictate his pick?Absolutely not, that why Benghazi is irrelevant to any potential Biden voter
But calling Susan Rice “African-American Hillary” seems crazySorry for the confusion: that was a reference to Kamala.
Bull.And in their attempts to tag her as a socialist, they’ll highlight her wildly popular-even-to-Independents policies. Whereas when they target Kamala or Rice, they bring bupkiss to the table except happening to be part of an ethnic group that is voting for Biden at a 90+% rate anyway.
Warren will be tagged a socialist and feed into the Biden is senile and will let the communists/socialists run his administration....
I think he should pick who he wants and definitely not make his pick out of fear...
Whereas when they target Kamala or Rice, they bring bupkiss to the table except happening to be part of an ethnic group that is voting for Biden at a 90+% rate anyway.
Oh boyI do love how photojournalists have been catching these as of late
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics/biden-kamala-harris-notes/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0l9E6WURt1lDqLXaGxORebVALwue_iZn5lGpNjvpW5CzuncO7m3PSRqkw
biden needs the black vote to show up in november. an all-white ticket = alienating blacks = low turnout. talk to your girl hillary about that one.How about I talk to Bill Clinton about it? Or better yet, I'll talk to the participants in the literally tens of polls of African American voters I have posted that all show them with a preference for Elizabeth Warren. Listen to African-American voters when they tell you what they want.
So you think Biden can’t win without Warren? Is that why you are so concerned?No, but I think Warren improves his chances of winning whereas I think Rice or Harris reduce it.
the literally tens of polls of African American voters I have posted that all show them with a preference for Elizabeth Warren.
Who would make a great male VP for Biden?
Who would make a great male VP for Biden?
Who would make a great male VP for Biden?I pick George Costanza
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood...
...Your housing prices will go up based on the market, and crime will go down. I have rescinded the Obama-Biden AFFH Rule. Enjoy!
Who would make a great male VP for Biden?
Gavin Newsom, Jay Inslee, Cory Booker, Steve Bullock, Sherrod Brown...
Labron helping to hook up the FL felons
LeBron James joins push to turn out ex-felon vote in Florida (https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/07/24/lebron-james-joins-push-to-turn-out-ex-felon-vote-in-florida-1303417)
Friday said it will donate $100,000 to help pay outstanding court debts of ex-felons so they can register to vote. The money will go to the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition,
support the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition https://floridarrc.com/
there... is... no... bottom...This was some good commentary on the idiocy of this plan of attackQuoteDonald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood...
...Your housing prices will go up based on the market, and crime will go down. I have rescinded the Obama-Biden AFFH Rule. Enjoy!
i'm not making this up. (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1288509568578777088)
I don’t know if I buy this....this is what I would call the Space Freely view of the electionI mean who can argue with a 33 person poll that purports to represent the views of 4 states full of people. Shut it down folks, 4 more years of Trump is here.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/opinions/swing-voters-midwest-trump-support-thau/index.html
I doubt any of the VP candidates would help with this group
...and hoping to get people to ignore new GDP and unemployment numbersDing, ding, ding.
(https://i.imgur.com/1A0A3O7.png)Roflmao.
I wonder if any of this is trueHonestly, she’s my #2 behind Warren from a strategic ideology.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/politics/joe-biden-running-mate/index.html
I wonder if any of this is trueHonestly, she’s my #2 behind Warren from a strategic ideology.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/politics/joe-biden-running-mate/index.html
If the alternative is a fucking cop or a fat loser whose never even won a statewide office, hell yeah.I wonder if any of this is trueHonestly, she’s my #2 behind Warren from a strategic ideology.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/31/politics/joe-biden-running-mate/index.html
66 years old. You like the older ladies, don't you?
Damn manHey, wait and see what the GOP does with those prospective picks.
That just seems uncalled for...
I think that’s exactly what they are doingWoof. I get that she was trying to make a point about equality but that one is hard to stomach.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/karen-bass-reportedly-on-biden-vp-shortlist-praised-scientology-at-2010-church-ribbon-cutting/
Announcement being pushed back....developing
Who the heck is Michelle Tidball ?I think you’re confused. Kanye announced her as his VP candidate. Imagine Marriane Williamson but with weird Biblical conspiracy theories and 20 less IQ points.
And should Biden be considering her?🙀
With Out even looking her up I had a feeling that was the answerWho the heck is Michelle Tidball ?I think you’re confused. Kanye announced her as his VP candidate. Imagine Marriane Williamson but with weird Biblical conspiracy theories and 20 less IQ points.
And should Biden be considering her?🙀
and 20 less IQ points.
Finishing school is for ladies, bro.and 20 less IQ points.
TAN: i suspect that your grammar tutor back in finishing school would have you use "fewer" in this instance.
https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1290806097062899717?s=20Holy shit... the winner of the internet has been chosen
I agree with you. Wouldn’t do it and wouldn’t be likely open the door to a stranger.
I certainly think it’s foolish
But ground games are always important
In other batshit crazy news coming from Trump
Preisdent Trump says "the schools should open" but "I think the teachers are a different story. And if a teacher is in a certain age group, I think they shouldn't be going in and probably they're going to have to wait until the thing goes by. They'll have to wait."
So schools with 1/2 the staff?
Who had NY AG moves to dissolves NRA on their bingo card?The New York Racing Association has been a trainwreck for years. People of my ilk will not rest until Maggie Wolfendale's head is on a pike!
Triple ? has long triggered the ??? emoji in UBB. A quadruple ? will do the emoji plus the fourth question mark. Nothing new.
From what I read it’s not at all too late to be on most ballots and he has time to get on ballot in pretty much every state
Just to take it seriously for a second, Kanye would only cost Biden votes..
And we know Kanye was singing Trump’s praises....
If Kanye decided to spend $ and the race between Trump and Biden tightened Kanye could become a problem particularly if he ran on a message targeted to black people (or whatever term they are comfortable with this week) of “Democrats take your vote for granted and don’t do anything for you!”
I am hoping it’s a joke candidacy but not sure I feel comfortable assuming so yet
I’m doing fine, crossed the NY border last Thursday and have been enjoying some distanced r&r. But I’m hearing they are closing the border?
Although while I was gone, apparently Biden is against God??
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1291438276671397890?s=21
Honestly Trump may like it this way..he will blame democrats and take credit for helping people himselfThey really shouldn’t fight him on it. Just hammer it’s lame and when it doesn’t work it’s on Trump because they think the American people deserve so much more.
Not sure what accounts for the startling shift but Rice is now betting markets favorite
Not sure what accounts for the startling shift but Rice is now betting markets favorite
Her ugly son is a real piece of work.
Not sure what accounts for the startling shift but Rice is now betting markets favoriteTerrific, we get to fire up GOP voters to a frothy, Benghazi furor.
Betting markets aren’t all knowingis there a lot of real money on the line?
Everyone should chill out...Biden is not going to pull a PalinI will say this, if he goes with Gretchen, he absolutely puts Michigan right back in play for Trump. She is a super polarizing figure in that state.
This pick is not going to be the difference
I know you have allegiance to this state, but I still blame you for not getting the vote out there in 2016Everyone should chill out...Biden is not going to pull a PalinI will say this, if he goes with Gretchen, he absolutely puts Michigan right back in play for Trump. She is a super polarizing figure in that state.
This pick is not going to be the difference
Here is a Biden shirt that I could see Hutch wearing
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfJ3nR_XkAAUvNt?format=jpg&name=large)
it would create a huge brouhaha that he didn’t pick a black woman
per the daily CNN podcast i occasionally listen to, clyburn will provide cover should biden go non-black in the veepstakes.Clyburn is a giant in SC (and the south too)....but not sure ALL of black america is tuning into what he says
per the daily CNN podcast i occasionally listen to, clyburn will provide cover should biden go non-black in the veepstakes.Clyburn is a giant in SC (and the south too)....but not sure ALL of black america is tuning into what he says
isn't the phrase, once you say you are going to go black, you can't go back??
Its Kamala!
Its Kamala!I think this is going to be good
any bets on what bombshell the Trump campaign is going to release tonightShes a WOC. They’ll just point at a picture and say “radical” and to his base that’s a bombshell.
I'm sure they have been doing Ops on Harris for months
Or maybe they will just start killing protesters?
It’s definitely better than Rice.
Are you going to eat your blazer if Trump wins this time?It’s definitely better than Rice.
I cannot stand Kamala, but I'm breathing a sigh of relief that it isn't Rice. I just cannot take that much Benghazi
Are you going to eat your blazer if Trump wins this time?It’s definitely better than Rice.
I cannot stand Kamala, but I'm breathing a sigh of relief that it isn't Rice. I just cannot take that much Benghazi
'cept Canada isn't letting Americans cross the border now (https://www.cicnews.com/2020/08/what-you-need-to-know-when-coming-to-canada-from-the-u-s-0815262.html#gs.d8r1u8). Ya might need to get a boat ;)Are you going to eat your blazer if Trump wins this time?It’s definitely better than Rice.
I cannot stand Kamala, but I'm breathing a sigh of relief that it isn't Rice. I just cannot take that much Benghazi
Flee to Canada is more my style. I definitely don't feel like this one is in the bag.
'cept Canada isn't letting Americans cross the border now (https://www.cicnews.com/2020/08/what-you-need-to-know-when-coming-to-canada-from-the-u-s-0815262.html#gs.d8r1u8). Ya might need to get a boat ;)Are you going to eat your blazer if Trump wins this time?It’s definitely better than Rice.
I cannot stand Kamala, but I'm breathing a sigh of relief that it isn't Rice. I just cannot take that much Benghazi
Flee to Canada is more my style. I definitely don't feel like this one is in the bag.
BTW...loving the book, thought you might catch the reference
Oh...you are one of them...that changes everything'cept Canada isn't letting Americans cross the border now (https://www.cicnews.com/2020/08/what-you-need-to-know-when-coming-to-canada-from-the-u-s-0815262.html#gs.d8r1u8). Ya might need to get a boat ;)Are you going to eat your blazer if Trump wins this time?It’s definitely better than Rice.
I cannot stand Kamala, but I'm breathing a sigh of relief that it isn't Rice. I just cannot take that much Benghazi
Flee to Canada is more my style. I definitely don't feel like this one is in the bag.
BTW...loving the book, thought you might catch the reference
Unlike the US, Canada is still letting their citizens return home.
I cannot stand Kamala, but I'm breathing a sigh of relief that it isn't Rice. I just cannot take that much Benghazi
If this wasn't obvious before....Kanye West met with Jared Kushner last weekend in CO,I wish that turd would just drop his album for his fans and just shut the fuck up for a couple more years. He pulls this shit every time he's promoting something.
Would be interesting if Jared gets caught up in the Election fraud kanye has committed with the false sigs
She ran a fine campaign...but once Biden entered her time was up...its that simple...
People say she ran an awful campaign but rarely cite an example of anything she did that was terrible...if she had done something terrible she wouldn’t have been picked as VP...I can’t think of one serious misstep or grave error...
People always only look at the end result! So Trump ran a great campaign in 2016? It was a shitshow
Who cares?
Move forward
I can look at any dem candidate except maybe Pete and say they ran a terrible campaign
Obviously Sanders ran the worst followed by Warren
Who cares? It’s the past
I can look at any dem candidate except maybe Pete and say they ran a terrible campaignI think Yang did a pretty good job making it to the final 5~
I feel we have debated this a hundred times and you traditionally take the “well, the point of the campaign is to win. If you lost, you couldn’t have run that great of a campaign” angle.
People always only look at the end result! So Trump ran a great campaign in 2016? It was a shitshow
I feel we have debated this a hundred times and you traditionally take the “well, the point of the campaign is to win. If you lost, you couldn’t have run that great of a campaign” angle.
People always only look at the end result! So Trump ran a great campaign in 2016? It was a shitshow
Well, since GGW isn’t with us any longer, I have some searching to do tomorrow when I’m in front of a computer but know I am doing that Larry David look you in the eye thing until then.I feel we have debated this a hundred times and you traditionally take the “well, the point of the campaign is to win. If you lost, you couldn’t have run that great of a campaign” angle.
People always only look at the end result! So Trump ran a great campaign in 2016? It was a shitshow
No way! We have debated this a million times and I always take the “Hillary ran a great campaign but can’t help it the American people are morons/Trump ran a shit campaign and won” angle
Who are all these Bus tweets for?
Do you think MAGA's care about money for Busses?
Is this his way to get the poor/minority voter?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfPr-NqWkAAF6EO?format=jpg&name=large)
*golf clap*Who are all these Bus tweets for?
Do you think MAGA's care about money for Busses?
Is this his way to get the poor/minority voter?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EfPr-NqWkAAF6EO?format=jpg&name=large)
more buses = trump doesn't haven't to go as far to find one he can throw those around him under.
*golf clap*
You can be a good VP pick and a bad campaigner: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/29/us/politics/kamala-harris-2020.html
I saw something on social media that you should call your Trump loving Grandparent or Aunt/Uncle and ask if they got the card you sent them and when they say no, say, "I'm sure it'll be there in a few days." Never send a card. A week later call back and ask if they got it again and when they say no say, "Oh, that's sad. I heard on Fox News Trump is pulling funding from the Postal Service and they're having a real hard time delivering all the mail now. I'm sure you'll get it soon."wow, That is genius!
And this whole issue will be resolved within a month.
I saw something on social media that you should call your Trump loving Grandparent or Aunt/Uncle and ask if they got the card you sent them and when they say no, say, "I'm sure it'll be there in a few days." Never send a card. A week later call back and ask if they got it again and when they say no say, "Oh, that's sad. I heard on Fox News Trump is pulling funding from the Postal Service and they're having a real hard time delivering all the mail now. I'm sure you'll get it soon."
And this whole issue will be resolved within a month.
... our “republic” is totally fucked upYeah, the way the republicans can game the system is insane. They will deny it, but they have a crazy built-in advantage and they act like the majority of Americans support their actions. But between the advantage, they have in congress due to all the power these rural states have and the efficiency of their voter suppression (which they are kicking into hyperdrive.) they win by just getting 25% of eligible voters
I just noticed Harris has the slot right before Joe in the Dem Convention on the last night (although the VP will be speaking on WedThe Yang got an invite in the end and opens for Biden on the last night!
Yang and Beto got the Heisman
Cook Political Report just shifted the senate race between Lindsey Graham and Jaime Harrison again in favor of Jaime Harrison![/i]Not. Happening.
To me “acting” is accomplishing something...act 1
The Postmaster General has agreed to testify at the House Oversight and Reform Committee on Monday, August 24thTo me “acting” is accomplishing something...act 1
https://www.axios.com/pelosi-house-postal-service-bbce98bd-6fe5-4640-995d-6061d4767940.html
The House of Representatives will be called back from August recess on Saturday to consider legislation related to the U.S. Postal Service, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) confirmed on Monday.
Cook Political Report just shifted the senate race between Lindsey Graham and Jaime Harrison again in favor of Jaime Harrison![/i]Not. Happening.
You are correct, sorry for that. Do I get canceled now?Sidehatch your post is a bit misleadingCook Political Report just shifted the senate race between Lindsey Graham and Jaime Harrison again in favor of Jaime Harrison![/i]Not. Happening.
They shifted it from likely Republican to lean Republican
GarbageWith that whole androgyny album, seems a little progressive for the GOP convention but Butch Vig does have pull in Wisconsin. Interesting gamble.
goodyear tires...goodness this guy can't stop. Must suck to own a company under this president
Vincente Fox is trolling the don pretty damn hard
https://twitter.com/CitizensFedUp/status/1205561028018397185?s=20
still love this from that female governor from Michigan
"It's not just Shark Week, it's Shark Week, mother ******,"
Whitmer's Shark Week hot mic moment memorialized by Michigan companies with matching merch
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/08/18/whitmers-shark-week-merchandise-candle-shirt
I expect to see some crow eating from the loony leftists that told us he was senile...crow eating, not their style.
No props for Joe?
I expect to see some crow eating from the loony leftists that told us he was senile...
I thought the second half of his speech was legitimately very good, regardless of where the bar was in people's minds.No props for Joe?
I expect to see some crow eating from the loony leftists that told us he was senile...
joe was fine. he didn't mess up. the bar was low, and he cleared it. he came across as a decent human being and a competent and inclusive leader. in normal times he'd be a snoozefest and we'd be complaining non-stop, but given the current shit-show in the oval office he's manna from heaven. biden/harris 2020 4 lyfe, get out the vote, stop the insanity.
it's the other speakers that tweaked my enthusiasm. michelle, barack, kamala, elizabeth, the boy with the stutter... those are the speeches we're talking about the morning after. but joe? he was fine.
I thought the second half of his speech was legitimately very good, regardless of where the bar was in people's minds.
That's funny...although were you watching PBS on wednesday night?
i wasn't overwhelmed, and i wasn't underwhelmed. i i guess i was just whelmed.
That's funny...although were you watching PBS on wednesday night?
i wasn't overwhelmed, and i wasn't underwhelmed. i i guess i was just whelmed.
I think it was after Joe was given the nom and gave a short speach
David Brooks was asked what he thought about it and he said " it was good, but I'm underwhelmed"
I can remember the next commentator's name, but he said: i wasn't overwhelmed, and i wasn't underwhelmed. i am just whelmed.
Seems like importantAgreed...should be shouting this from the mountain tops
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-abcs-david-muir-raising-taxes-taxes-making/story?id=72554803
7024 days to Sept 18th where you can vote early in VA (or drop off your absentte ballot)
It would be like Florida 2000 on steroids wSo since the mid 2000s there has been a huge push (by the GOP no less) for mail in voting
I think definitely people who can vote in person should. Vote early if your state allows. Mail in as a last resort for many reasons.or drop off your mail in vote at an early voting center!
Couldn’t help but notice Sidehatch that you ignored my last two posts on this subject from August 25thIf I had a dollar for all the posts that were ignored ;)
Sounds like you just want to be an ostrichSo encouraging people to vote early is being an ostrich?
just another day in crazytown for him... how a discredited story on Facebook from June reaches him makes the mind boggle.. it went six people from Seattle got off a plane in Boise apparently with the intent of doing anti-facism, etc in that town... and then the story spread fast and wide enough that the local sheriff had to dismiss it... so yeah the "leader" of the free world gets his information like one's crazy relatives
That’s a reliefPeople need to stop assuming Minnesota is a lock.
None of those will he make a difference
if Biden doesn’t win Minnesota no way is he being elected president so it’s a moot pointThat is true.
That’s a relief
None of those will he make a difference
You mean AZ?
AZ is the biggest pickup opportunity for Biden outside of reclaiming PA, MI and WI....
If you mean Arkansas there is no way Biden is even competing there
I think Iowa is not probable unfortunately and I think Ernst who is a traitor I despise will get re-elected...she is horrible...How many people in Iowa will vote for Kanye? 10
let’s not be so scared we are freaking about the Kanye vote in Des Moines!
(https://i.ibb.co/2SdLVdP/B4-FA6-DD4-0-D11-4-D8-B-A1-BB-7667-F5-C8-C1-F5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KDWQ4W7)
As seems to often be the case, only you can’t see the picture. 😂(https://i.ibb.co/2SdLVdP/B4-FA6-DD4-0-D11-4-D8-B-A1-BB-7667-F5-C8-C1-F5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KDWQ4W7)
neither the image you posted (https://i.ibb.co/2SdLVdP/B4-FA6-DD4-0-D11-4-D8-B-A1-BB-7667-F5-C8-C1-F5.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/2SdLVdP/B4-FA6-DD4-0-D11-4-D8-B-A1-BB-7667-F5-C8-C1-F5.jpg) = 504 Gateway Time-out), nor the destination link (https://ibb.co/KDWQ4W7 (https://ibb.co/KDWQ4W7) = partial load of a broken page) seem to be working... so your post looks blank to me. are others able to see hutch's image?
TL/DR : sweets is a nerd
neither the image you posted (https://i.ibb.co/2SdLVdP/B4-FA6-DD4-0-D11-4-D8-B-A1-BB-7667-F5-C8-C1-F5.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/2SdLVdP/B4-FA6-DD4-0-D11-4-D8-B-A1-BB-7667-F5-C8-C1-F5.jpg) = 504 Gateway Time-out), nor the destination link (https://ibb.co/KDWQ4W7 (https://ibb.co/KDWQ4W7) = partial load of a broken page) seem to be working... so your post looks blank to me. are others able to see hutch's image?
My brother bought a Colin Kapernick kneeling t-shirt to combat the guy's wearing their Trump flipping the bird and saying "Impeach This" t-shirts. Wonder how that will turn out.
Some workplaceExactly. Where the hell are these people working that has employees in graphic tees all day?
Oh no we’ve lost Ace
Former Kiss guitarist Ace Frehley has come out as a Trump supporter. "Trump is the strongest leader that we've got on the table," he said
Per rolling stone
Genital Jackson, MDOh no we’ve lost Ace
Former Kiss guitarist Ace Frehley has come out as a Trump supporter. "Trump is the strongest leader that we've got on the table," he said
Per rolling stone
Now taking nominations for my new screen name.
Be nice.
Frace Speely
Too bad about Ace. He had the only good Kiss solo album.
total lack of critical thinking to having the stable genius exit a plane to fortunate son... conservatives really do not actually listen to and comprehend song lyrics... unless of course there is naughty wordsI remember George W. Bush doing this as well or maybe he commented it was his favorite song. GOPers love them some Creedence.
One interesting thing to consider is the apparent lack of third party votingI think this is very true and one of the two big reasons pollsters say 2016 comparisons are unfair. The other is Biden is consistently hitting 50% in polls -- Hillary never did. People generally don't change their minds once they tell a pollster they're voting for someone. Biden leading 50-45 is very different than Hillary leading 46-41.
In 2016 Gary Johnson got 5% in many places, Stein 1-3% and there were other candidates ..that dude from Utah
This time it really seems like there isn’t going to be much third party voting
I think third party voting favors Trump who just can’t ever seem to get above 45%....without third party voting he cannot win with 43-44-45%...I think
There is nothing (including voting for Trump) that someone can reveal about themselves that makes me think they're a fucking idiot with a deluded sense of self-worth more than telling me they like Joe Rogan.
I mean, have you ever met a fucking person who listens to this imbecile? They're all men's rights dipshits with no critical thinking skills who fall for every piece of redpill bullshit presented to them and are convinced they're deep thinkers.There is nothing (including voting for Trump) that someone can reveal about themselves that makes me think they're a fucking idiot with a deluded sense of self-worth more than telling me they like Joe Rogan.
Why is that? Apparently many people do.
well, haven't met Walkie yet...I mean, have you ever met a fucking person who listens to this imbecile? They're all men's rights dipshits with no critical thinking skills who fall for every piece of redpill bullshit presented to them and are convinced they're deep thinkers.There is nothing (including voting for Trump) that someone can reveal about themselves that makes me think they're a fucking idiot with a deluded sense of self-worth more than telling me they like Joe Rogan.
Why is that? Apparently many people do.
Look, I love Walkie as much as the next person but he believes in soul vampires and sacred geometry and healing crystals or some nonsense like that. I rest my case.well, haven't met Walkie yet...I mean, have you ever met a fucking person who listens to this imbecile? They're all men's rights dipshits with no critical thinking skills who fall for every piece of redpill bullshit presented to them and are convinced they're deep thinkers.There is nothing (including voting for Trump) that someone can reveal about themselves that makes me think they're a fucking idiot with a deluded sense of self-worth more than telling me they like Joe Rogan.
Why is that? Apparently many people do.
I mean, have you ever met a fucking person who listens to this imbecile? They're all men's rights dipshits with no critical thinking skills who fall for every piece of redpill bullshit presented to them and are convinced they're deep thinkers.There is nothing (including voting for Trump) that someone can reveal about themselves that makes me think they're a fucking idiot with a deluded sense of self-worth more than telling me they like Joe Rogan.
Why is that? Apparently many people do.
So will team Trump use the Caputo defense going forward (claiming mental insanity as a defense for doing and saying crazy things)
and concluded the meeting by encouraging his staff to listen to music by the Grateful Dead.[/i]is that wink wink to consume shrooms?
WTF Sidehatch why no mention of you?
https://www.chron.com/news/article/On-the-first-day-of-early-voting-Virginians-line-15578018.php
What a loser
https://news.yahoo.com/911-called-to-allegedly-intoxicated-jerry-falwell-jrs-house-last-month-there-was-a-lot-of-blood-213552998.html
I plan to vote in person on Election Day around 2:30 pm at Swanson middle school...unless I die
Whistleblower outs Kushner for COVID task force failures: ‘Organized crime melded with Lord of the Flies’
DeSantis is really going for it...this can't be good for the GOP?
DeSantis ends Congressional Federal Assistance for the unemployed in Florida.
In a state where 12% of the population already lives below the poverty line, Ron DeSantis shut down Trump’s 300 dollar per month unemployment benefit for hundreds of thousands of people in FL.
1000 hours
they are fucking with the Florida felonsblomie for the win!
Federal appeals court blocks Florida's felons from voting (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/11/federal-court-rules-florida-felons-rights-vote-fall-election/5748335002/)
man this is pissing me off, pretty much screwed them for 2020 it's looking like
unbelievable the lengths the GOP will go to suppress the vote
tens of thousands of "naked ballots" could possibly be rejected in PA election...
I don’t think so and in fact think it’s better to vote on Election DayDidn't want to sully your good news thread
You voted without first conducting due diligence?jez, now you are getting a little tin-foil-hat on me
Are you even sure they will actually even count your vote?
I will let you know what Barack says but it sounds like you made a lot of assumptions...
I thought I warned you about this?
Not all former felons will be voting for Biden.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/us/mike-tyson-will-vote-for-the-first-time-trnd/index.html
tyson supported trump in 2016
but recently did some Gfloyd support stuff too, so he may have changed
Look. Until they give the horses medals in the equestrian events,So do winning horses do better in the glue market?
Received an email with my Maryland ballot today.
Reporter: "Is it appropriate for the President to not commit to an orderly transition of power if he loses?"
Sen. Kevin Cramer: "Democrats have already obviously made it very clear that they don't intend to do that."
I don't get this. They are in power, so how can the people not in power have anything to do with the transition?
this is the talking point they won't stop with and it just donesn't make sense
but I guess that's very on-brand
I still don't get how inteligent people can hear these people speak and not be like WTF
Damn dude that’s a terrible conclusion you are drawing and you ought to think about thatI mean, I hear you it's all about how it's framed and that's what he's trying to do
I mean did Trump have some inside info Obama wasn’t born in the US?
Moreover it’s not a sporting event so who is to say what a person can consume?
Basically you bought into Trump’s framing and then said you believe Trump!
Very weak
Brad PascaleFormer Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale, armed, barricades self in Fort Lauderdale home, police called
Brad Pascale
Brad PascaleDefinitely not a member of Julian's America.
Brad Pascale
This guy’s net worth is 12 million dollars and look at the (relatively) crappy house he lives in. Definitely not a member of Julian's America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjAqS35D8ZU
Brad Pascalefast forward to 0:50
Johnny Rotten doing something for attention, so people will talk about him.
Shocking . . . say it ain't so, Sid.
A different angle...same shit people
https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/report-parscale-under-investigation-for-stealing-25-40m-from-trump-campaign-NKL2PAyWckuU3YXTTfViqQ
Didn’t I say that a few comments above?
Can someone please check hutch’s ears
Something seems fishy
Alexandra Petri
@petridishes
debate drinking game!: continue to drink continuously as you have been doing for the past six months
https://twitter.com/petridishes/status/1311070288168316928
What about non voters?
Trump was clearly the winner. At least this guy says so.
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/david-bossie-trump-clearly-defeats-biden-in-first-presidential-debate (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/david-bossie-trump-clearly-defeats-biden-in-first-presidential-debate)
Baghdad Bob returns!
Hey Space I think you just need to add Rhodes Scholar to you screen name, unless Sidehatch beats you to the punch...
and to provide context to keep sweets from having to fact check me... The PressSec said the new SCOTUS nominee was a Rhodes Scholar when in fact they got a BA from Rhodes College
Hey Space I think you just need to add Rhodes Scholar to you screen name, unless Sidehatch beats you to the punch...
and to provide context to keep sweets from having to fact check me... The PressSec said the new SCOTUS nominee was a Rhodes Scholar when in fact they got a BA from Rhodes College
Yeah, but when caught, she did say "my bad," so...
Going into first debate everything is looking better and better
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/518721-cook-political-report-shifts-ohio-iowa-to-toss-up-in-presidential-race (https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/518721-cook-political-report-shifts-ohio-iowa-to-toss-up-in-presidential-race)
Check out the newest poll on IAThis poll is not weighted for education and Iowa is probably one of the top three states where that’s most essential.
I don’t find the margin credible but Ernst could lose...I cannot stand her
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/senate/ia/iowa_senate_ernst_vs_greenfield-7072.html
One can dream
Hope Hicks has tested positive for covid
Was in close proximity to President chump...travelled together in close quarters....Marine One
Word is could be decade long sentence for this
Internet trolls Jacob Wohl and Jack Burkman charged in alleged scheme to suppress Detroit voters
I’m sure Trump will bounce back and say it was just like getting the flu. Can’t wait ::)I wish they would take away his phone as a part of the quarantine
Well we have our October surprise. Time for some more vacation day drinkingwait you are only supposed to day drink on vacation...I may be doing this wrong
Well we have our October surprise. Time for some more vacation day drinkingwait you are only supposed to day drink on vacation...I may be doing this wrong
I thought Melania’s recorded comments about Christmas were also an October surprise of sorts...
It’s going to be a crazy month
I wish they would take away his phone as a part of the quarantinewow 15 hours since his last tweet...isn't even doing conf calls
Trump received an injection of Regeneron’s experimental monoclonal (synthetic) antibody cocktail.
yikes...experimental cocktails on the POTUS
The President is having trouble breathing and will remain at Walter Reed for several days. :o
Not sure it was his thumbs that sent thisI wish they would take away his phone as a part of the quarantinewow 15 hours since his last tweet...isn't even doing conf calls
Democrats may have just lost Senate...Holy fuck... what a fucking Friday
https://amp.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article246191610.html?__twitter_impression=true
I'm not sure who's worse.
My Southern uncle who says he would leave the country if the Democrats win because he doesn't want to be around when the Democrats come for the Southerner's guns.
Or my wife's uncle who threatened to kill Obama on social media when Obama was president.
if he comes through this with only mild symptoms, he next says: don't you want a president that has already had the virus? It's too risky to elect someone without antibodies.
Don’t be afraid of Covid.
-The President of the United States
Don’t be afraid of Covid.
-The President of the United States
Y'all get your Trump defeats COVID commemorative coin yet?
https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/trump-defeats-covid.htm
Y'all get your Trump defeats COVID commemorative coin yet?Might end up being a collector’s item
https://www.whitehousegiftshop.com/product-p/trump-defeats-covid.htm
Stephen Miller has tested positive.
Stephen Miller has tested positive.Ok 2020... you have redeemed yourself a smidge
Is this the October surprise?they were hoping it would be, but they hadn't banked on the last 10 days of news
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-call-to-declassify-russia-collusion-clinton-documents-sparks-fierce-debate-online
Actually, was just happy to see a big campaign chest...as 12 months ago people would have laughed you out of the room if you thought a Dem could win an Iowa senate seat
What are you saying? She needs more?
Now Kentucky is not winnable
Texas is not
Mississippi is not
I still never understood why coperations and small business don't back ACA or Medicare for all.This always boggles the mind for me too. I have said, basically, this exact logic for 15 years. Removing employer health care costs would be the biggest boon to businesses in our lifetime.
Heath insurance costs are insane for business AND individuals
The cost of job-based health insurance averaged more than $21,000 for families and almost $7,500 for individuals in 2020
I would gladly pay $10k more in taxes a year for healthcare for my family if I got a 10K raise...and the business would pocket $10k
Who the fuck would want 'employer paid heath care" if the option was to make more money and get covered under a M4A plan
I know personally, my company paid almost $20k to cover my family and we still had over $4k in out of pocket expenses
Wow, just wow.
https://twitter.com/SenMikeLee/status/1314089207875371008
PS: The Big Chill is a horrible movie...Decent soundtrack tho...
here is your connected to the present day Michigan factoidFormer Georgia governor, Frank Slaton, was basically run out of the state for a decade by wackadoos because he commuted a death sentence to life imprisonment for a Jewish man who was clearly railroaded in a child homicide. (Said Jewish man was broken out of prison and lynched, of course, because . . . Georgia.)
Attempt against #Whitmer is not w/o precedent. While visiting Marquette Prison in July 1950, Gov. G. Mennen Williams was attacked and briefly held hostage by a group of inmates in an escape attempt. Williams had a six-inch knife held to his throat. His attackers overpowered.
https://twitter.com/HistoryLivesDet/status/1314268013865177097?s=20
clink link to see a dapper bow tie wearing governor
You're also on notice:I love the ridiculousness that this was done to spur voter registration. The groups of people who (1) want a West Wing reunion and are hyped by Michelle Obama and Bill Clinton being in it and (2) unregistered potential voters, has zero overlap. Zero.
A West Wing Special (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g868M-27qpI)
I love the ridiculousness that this was done to spur voter registration. The groups of people who (1) want a West Wing reunion and are hyped by Michelle Obama and Bill Clinton being in it and (2) unregistered potential voters, has zero overlap. Zero.
Money on fire.
Facts only.I love the ridiculousness that this was done to spur voter registration. The groups of people who (1) want a West Wing reunion and are hyped by Michelle Obama and Bill Clinton being in it and (2) unregistered potential voters, has zero overlap. Zero.
Money on fire.
I have no riposte.
these Project Lincoln griftersthey read the room and are lining their pockets. I don't see how it can really do damage to anyone other than trump. They all just paid for their grandkids education and the vacation home on the bluff
Be careful
Some people put razor blades on their Trump signs
Oh I know just passing it on
I lost three fingers last week
:)
Things are really going to shit
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/goodbye-middle-class-half-of-all-american-workers-made-less-than-34248-45-last-year
Please don't post the 2020 version of that study. By then things are going to be so rosie that I don't ever want to look back...What are you talking about, when we get the 2020 study we will show the tremendous gains made from the Trump tax cuts at rasing the middle class.
Things are really going to shit
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/goodbye-middle-class-half-of-all-american-workers-made-less-than-34248-45-last-year
In the DC area I would say you need about 200K household income to live ok
Kind of amazing but I been watching the real politics poll average for battleground states and Hillary consistently outperformed BidenI don’t want to be adversarial but this is just anti factual. Let me show you how tomorrow when I have a better copy and paste situation at my hands.
Asking for a friend.. are any democratic run cities burning down at the moment?the apocalypse is happening in the suburbs...where I think you live...have you looked outside your window?
Asking for a friend.. are any democratic run cities burning down at the moment?the apocalypse is happening in the suburbs...where I think you live...have you looked outside your window?
Guthrie handled Donald Trump the exact way every journalist should. I fully support her being named Attorney General.
Biden tops Trump in last night ratings??Source?
Didn’t see that coming
Biden tops Trump in last night ratings??Source?
Didn’t see that coming
not surprised that joey got better ratings than trumpster fire - and gawd that just gave me a jolt. the prez is FUMING over that fact right now.Especially since supposedly he talked internally about how he wanted to embarrass Biden in the ratings. Hilarious.
I really thought more people would watch Trump for the clown show aspectI also thought this.
Remember he’s really just a crazy uncle retweeting someone else’s opinion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW86jyTsYe4Awesome. The number of shows I’ve seen there. Oh baby.
Biden campaign ad shot at The Blind Pig in Ann Arbor featuring music from Pixies, Breeders and Beastie Boys. First time ever for a ad licensed Beasties track.. Joe and Kamala walk across the screen to Sabotage
Also, an excellent example of the Save Our Stages campaign
I wonder if debate will happen?
It's like dealing with pre-schoolers
On the other hand we also know Trump thought he was behind in 2016.....and he was until Comey...the difference is not that many people were early voting in 2016...that makes it more difficult to turn it aroundI'm still worried for October surprises...I'm thinking of race war/terror attack
Pat Robertson reports that he has been told by God that Trump will win reelection ... and it will bring about the beginning of the End Times
hmm...Vote Trump, will bring on End Times?!
Did you actually read my post about turnout?you are a radical Democrat. But I know you! You've been screaming questions at me for a long time. You're no good.
InterestingNice Princess Bride Ref...“Basically, Trump has now been committed to the equivalent of land war in Asia"
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/20/bloomberg-trump-florida-spending-430236
That’s not a movie reference dude! That’s history... Napoleon, Hitler etcwouldn’t that be just a war with Russia... not Asia?
Pretty much every response from that Caputo tweet was a ref to the princess bride
;D
So how do you take it? I think it’s ambiguous...
It’s pretty funny that we are far from the only ones arguing about this!
Pat Robertson reports that he has been told by God that Trump will win reelection ... and it will bring about the beginning of the End Times
hmm...Vote Trump, will bring on End Times?!
That’s funnyI'm here all week...don't forget to tip the waitstaph
It’s taking strength not to send Biden some more moneyMy focus has been on the senate and a few house races, I gave to Biden early on...Won't stop Barack from reaching out to me
all i have to say is that if the Bidens are as corrupt as Mr. Tuck is alleging, then they are doing a fine job of keeping it out of sight which should be worth of support. unlike others whose corruption is out in plain sight for all to see...
all i have to say is that if the Bidens are as corrupt as Mr. Tuck is alleging, then they are doing a fine job of keeping it out of sight which should be worth of support. unlike others whose corruption is out in plain sight for all to see...
I don't know who Mr. Tuck is. But I think it really comes down to what media you pay attention to. Every time I look at conservative media sources, it's all about how corrupt Joe and Hunter are. And zero about the corruption of Trump and his lackeys.
Every time I look at CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, etc, it's always about Trump's corruption, with not a negative word said about Joe and Hunter.
all i have to say is that if the Bidens are as corrupt as Mr. Tuck is alleging, then they are doing a fine job of keeping it out of sight which should be worth of support. unlike others whose corruption is out in plain sight for all to see...
I don't know who Mr. Tuck is. But I think it really comes down to what media you pay attention to. Every time I look at conservative media sources, it's all about how corrupt Joe and Hunter are. And zero about the corruption of Trump and his lackeys.
Every time I look at CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, etc, it's always about Trump's corruption, with not a negative word said about Joe and Hunter.
The way you equate the two is very troubling.
There is nothing there with Biden. Nothing there illegal.. or don’t you think he would have been charged by Barr’s Department of “Justice”
There is nothing but corruption with Trump.
Bothsidesism is killing America. Stop it!
I am reminded of a debate between two VP candidates where one told 100 lies and the other 1 and CNN concluded they both lied.
You are better than this! Equating CNN with Fox? Please go buy a clue.
Well one is news and the other a state propaganda death cult..
Guess I missed that in your original post
Seems important but as you continue to write “depends on which news you believe” I still don’t think you are quite getting it
But now I have to go
In other shocking news people in North Korea believe the local “news”...
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So our dear leader decided it was best to leak his 60 minutes interview early because he had a temper tantrum about being asked “tough” questions and admitted to wanting to have Obamacare overturned... cool stuff for the masses with a potential audience larger than those who would have seen it on 60 minutes...
So what’s up with Mitch?
Get those souls to the polls!Just got back from early voting. So add one to your figures. There was a few other people there too.
conflicted here as I thought we determined you have no soul?Get those souls to the polls!Just got back from early voting. So add one to your figures. There was a few other people there too.
https://trumpcovidplan.com/
Actually not a requirement to vote.conflicted here as I thought we determined you have no soul?Get those souls to the polls!Just got back from early voting. So add one to your figures. There was a few other people there too.
Can confirmActually not a requirement to vote.conflicted here as I thought we determined you have no soul?Get those souls to the polls!Just got back from early voting. So add one to your figures. There was a few other people there too.
And the way they rub it in my face...this is one of my biggest gripes and then they are all like "obama created soo much division, Nancy doesn't want to work with us" It's such bullshit, they don't want to compromise, they will never do something because 'it's the right and decent thing to do'
Faux news is the twilight zoneThis is funny
How dumb do you have to be to believe this stuff!?
https://twitter.com/keithedwards/status/1321615415739441152?s=20
More from the twilight zoneMan, I really don't like Kennedy, but that takes some cajones to say that on Fox (business tho...does anyone watch that?)
https://twitter.com/morethanmySLE/status/1321650759759441920?s=20
I'm illiterate in multiple languages!
It takes furniture drawers?!?
1. Biden
2. Kamala
2. Sanders
Franken much as I love him is done
Ok...midterms have terminated
early contenders for Dem Nomination?
Beto
Cory Booker
Gavin Newsom
Al Franken?!
No longer contenders
Hil
Bernie
Liz Warren
The first post on this thread is comical in how wrong it turned outouch
Sexy Veagan (https://theoutline.com/post/4434/allow-us-to-introduce-the-next-president-of-the-united-states-sexy-vegan?zd=1&zi=mm6qgiy7) should really pick Deez nuts as his running mate
"You have to hand it to Jared Kushner, because that's the only way he's ever achieved or accomplished anything in his whole life."I would like to report YET ANOTHER MURDER.
More from the twilight zoneMan, I really don't like Kennedy, but that takes some cajones to say that on Fox (business tho...does anyone watch that?)
https://twitter.com/morethanmySLE/status/1321650759759441920?s=20
This is good shit....I saw that this morning and holy fucking shit. Gotta give Perdue credit: doesn't even flinch. My dream scenario is GA voting Biden/Ossoff/Warnock on Tuesday. So much of the trash wing of my family moved down there and they're huge Trump people and that would just about kill my trashass uncle Larry.
https://twitter.com/JoshuaHol/status/1321657199375065093?s=20
What do you all make of the "take" that we should stop viewing this as a 9-10% polling lead for Biden; its a 5% polling lead in Pennsylvania, the "Plan A" tipping point state for him, and he really doesn't have a "Plan B" on the board if he loses Pennsylvania? He has like 4 "Plan Cs" (Arizona, Florida, NC, Georgia) but he leads in none of them by more than 2% in polling averages.
BREAKING: Sen. Perdue cancels the final debate against @ossoff because, you know, he was categorically destroyed last night and is still licking his wounds.This is good shit....I saw that this morning and holy fucking shit. Gotta give Perdue credit: doesn't even flinch. My dream scenario is GA voting Biden/Ossoff/Warnock on Tuesday. So much of the trash wing of my family moved down there and they're huge Trump people and that would just about kill my trashass uncle Larry.
https://twitter.com/JoshuaHol/status/1321657199375065093?s=20
This guy seems to know what he is doingOne of the best follows on Twitter.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Redistrict
They will try anything, I know the Trump team monitors this board... so thanks for helping out the enemy Koz.
My only worry is that when the hopeful landslide occurs, they don’t try to use the Biden’s “low turnout” events as indication that voter fraud has occurred
More people have now voted in Texas than did so in the 2016 general election.Wow that is impressive. I don't think Beto gets enough credit for waking the dems in TX as he should
If it gets to single digits, I may take off my pants and run around.pic or it didn't happen (not that I want to see it, but we have standards on what can be claimed)
pic or it didn't happen (not that I want to see it, but we have standards on what can be claimed)Someone fly the photographer in that we had for GwarBQ and let's get this done.
If it doesn’t get to single digits Trump will be PresidentHuh...If it gets to single digits on the 538 thing, that means the likelihood of him winning is less than 10%
Koz or Jules.....can you confirm this
Trump: "Twelve years ago I was named Man of the Year of Michigan. Can you believe it?"
tay tay is using her power to tip the scales...She totally failed to make any movement in TN in the midterms when 8,000,000 words were written about how she could turn the Governor and Senate races there. Dem candidates under preformed.
https://twitter.com/ericswalwell/status/1322161334696386560?s=20
Taylor Swift has 87.3 million followers on Twitter - the exact same number as Trump.
This is the first campaign ad she has ever given permission to use her music.
Wow 94.2 million early votes cast!
Polling may be impacted, but IMO high turnout only benefits the Democratic Party (why do you think they try so hard to suppress the vote)
Wow 94.2 million early votes cast!
Polling may be impacted, but IMO high turnout only benefits the Democratic Party (why do you think they try so hard to suppress the vote)
Don’t be silly... they try to (and do) suppress the DEMOCRATIC vote...
https://www.investors.com/news/trump-vs-biden-poll-race-tight-ibd-tipp-presidential-poll/That is just a massive outlier. I'm not saying its wrong but there's literally an equally ranked pollster who did a sample of 6 times the size also released today who has Biden +12.
Lots of polls that made for tightening yesterday were "low-quality" ones according to 538.
‘Walking around $’
Not familiar to that grift
First exit polls coming out...These have never been more useless than this year where half or more people aren’t voting today.
I’ve seen enoughDude....I thought we weren’t supposed to do that
Am calling DC for Biden...
Arlington exit poll
Trump 100%
Biden 0
I’ve seen enoughBOLD.
Am calling DC for Biden...
Getting reports of multiple robocalls going to Flint residents that, due to long lines, they should vote tomorrow.
Obviously this is FALSE and an effort to suppress the vote. No long lines and today is the last day to vote. Don’t believe the lies!
Biden secures ALL the votes in Dixville Notch (5)Biden has really upped his snark game
F yeah ArlingtonLawerence O’Donnell reply...
https://twitter.com/jwestcottphoto/status/1323713898680385536?s=20
Biden shitting the bed in Miami
Have they called it?No but NYT puts it at 98% Trump.
What sun belt misses?Trump is super well-positioned to win TX and GA with votes already counted. NC will be close but no cigar for Biden.
There is more than Florida?
What sun belt misses?Trump is super well-positioned to win TX and GA with votes already counted. NC will be close but no cigar for Biden.
There is more than Florida?
It’s all on the Midwest and Biden has virtually no margin for error as his only potential bailout state left if he loses one of MN/WI/PA/MI is probably AZ. (Unless you believe in OH which I don’t.)
Ok, I know we are not even supposed to look at the results until midnight, but this is really driving me to drink heavy
is that a Herman Cain ref?Ok, I know we are not even supposed to look at the results until midnight, but this is really driving me to drink heavy
12999!
is that a Herman Cain ref?Ok, I know we are not even supposed to look at the results until midnight, but this is really driving me to drink heavy
12999!
Biden shitting the bed in Miami
Let the blame game begin!!
Congrats on your 13,000th post!is that a Herman Cain ref?Ok, I know we are not even supposed to look at the results until midnight, but this is really driving me to drink heavy
12999!
I screamed this out loud in my houseBiden shitting the bed in Miami
Let the blame game begin!!
So Bloomberg's $100M was....?
So Bloomberg's $100M was....?
AZ plus MI plus WI plus NE-2 gets you 270Thats correct. Or the Maine district which is a bright spot at current.
Going to sleep: 1142pm
RCP has it at
216 Biden
125 Trump
Biden needs 54: PA (20), MN (10), AZ (11), MI (16). I fear that Biden will not get MI. And Trump wins 279, 259, or something close to that.
And even if Biden wins, certainly not any kind of repudiation of Trump. And the radical right comes right back in 4 years.
Hope.
Going to sleep: 1142pm
RCP has it at
216 Biden
125 Trump
Biden needs 54: PA (20), MN (10), AZ (11), MI (16). I fear that Biden will not get MI. And Trump wins 279, 259, or something close to that.
And even if Biden wins, certainly not any kind of repudiation of Trump. And the radical right comes right back in 4 years.
Hope.
Don’t look now but the NYT “needle” is now predicting GA to Biden based on pretty much all the outstanding vote being in metro Atlanta.
Hold onto your butts.
Don’t rule out Fox retracting it’s AZ call....I’ve seen nothing that would lead me to believe that’s getting retracted. I’m surprised more agencies haven’t followed suit.
agree
This is no repudiation of Trump...far from it...
Bullock lost in MO thought that was going to be an easy win
Deliver this Big D we know you have it in you!!!!
Trumps lead in MI rapidly decreasing apparently huge Blue counties have outstanding votes left to be counted.. looks Jules’s least favorite place Lansing East Lansing may also be a factorGiant tranche of votes just came in and pulled it to within 0.5%. 300k outstanding to count in Wayne. Michigan is looking good right now.
Looking at raw vote counts and what's left uncounted in Wake and Mecklenberg, I see no path to Biden getting NC barring an absolute flood of absentee ballots arriving between now and the 10th.
Looking at raw vote counts and what's left uncounted in Wake and Mecklenberg, I see no path to Biden getting NC barring an absolute flood of absentee ballots arriving between now and the 10th.
Same deal with their Senate race? Playboy should have kept it in his pants.
Why is this soo close, ugh. I'm beginning to feel like I don't like a lot of Americans choices in life
I was really predicting a landslide and this isn't even sliding at all
We really didn't need it to be close
He's trailing Biden by about 1%, so yeah, he's likely done. Peters should pull out MI. Kelly should have AZ.Looking at raw vote counts and what's left uncounted in Wake and Mecklenberg, I see no path to Biden getting NC barring an absolute flood of absentee ballots arriving between now and the 10th.
Same deal with their Senate race? Playboy should have kept it in his pants.
Arizona was huge...Agreed. Really want to see proof that NV is sticking (the demographics of the outstanding ballots are ++ -- update tonite) and would love to see a news agency other than AP and Fox call AZ for Biden but this is looking good, barring judicial shenangians.
I'm getting the Johnnie Walker Blue out.
Looks like Peters (D) could lose his Senate seat in Michigan (?)Still a ton of Wayne County and Kalamazoo votes outstanding. He’s probably ok but there were definitely some voters who went Biden but not Peters.
A better scotch by a mile but lacks the blue tie-in.Quote from: Julian, Adroit TASTEMAKERI'm getting the Johnnie Walker Blue out.
Glenlivet 25 year last night around 2AM.
Biden is Winning. Act Like it. (https://messagebox.substack.com/p/biden-is-winning-act-like-it)
Ween or Loose: Biden will have the most votes in US Electoral history.
If we made Trump a one term president- and I think we have- that is huge. A huge accomplishmentI agree...but the just barely part makes me depressed. I wanted a mandate like winning the popular by 10million
I did too but honestly, if is by a narrow margin, it makes me feel good about the time I took off from work and phone banked, and the money I gave specifically to ActBlue in states like MI and GA that is going to fuel this. This an election that if we worked 10% less hard, we lose. But we didn't.If we made Trump a one term president- and I think we have- that is huge. A huge accomplishmentI agree...but the just barely part makes me depressed. I wanted a mandate like winning the popular by 10million
EDIT: Call me crazy, but I don't think an 8 million popular vote margin is out of play. Tons of CA and NY and MD/NOVA votes left to count.not too shabby! I'd be happy with that and it sounds like a mandate to me
This an election that if we worked 10% less hard, we lose.yeah, I think with Hill we only needed to work 3% harder, but alas
we kinda knew this...but it's official Susan Collins says Sara Gideon called her to concede the race.This is a massive disappointment.
The Lincoln project put a lot in to defeat Collins, they must be upset
MIRS has declared Biden the winner of Michigan.
EDIT: OK, just realized that acronym is going to need some explaining for the non-Mitten/legislative wonks wings of the board. Very wonky, non-partisan state government news organization. This is the equivalent of me saying "The Detroit Free-Press has declared Biden the winner of Michigan" or "The Richmond Times-Dispatch has declared Biden the winner of Virginia."
Yep. Wayne is brining it home. 55k is going to be the margin, I think.MIRS has declared Biden the winner of Michigan.
EDIT: OK, just realized that acronym is going to need some explaining for the non-Mitten/legislative wonks wings of the board. Very wonky, non-partisan state government news organization. This is the equivalent of me saying "The Detroit Free-Press has declared Biden the winner of Michigan" or "The Richmond Times-Dispatch has declared Biden the winner of Virginia."
For what it's worth, I think they're right.
The only significant numbers of votes outstanding are in Wayne and Kalamazoo, which lean (in one case, heavily) Dem with no way for Trump to make up the 38,000 votes he's behind. The gap will likely increase.
Yep. Wayne is brining it home. 55k is going to be the margin, I think.
Unless I am mistaken, there is no paid recount threshold in MI.Yep. Wayne is brining it home. 55k is going to be the margin, I think.
This is a possibility. Team Trump has filed a suit to stop the count, which can only be an attempt to keep the percentage with in the recount threshold.
Does anyone know when we're getting our next vote drop in Nevada?
AZ is promising more out of Maricopa at 9pm and 12:30am (EST).
Does anyone know when we're getting our next vote drop in Nevada?
They said not until tomorrow!!!
Noon ET Thursday.
Shame she unseated a Dem in the Iowa house seat... but
https://twitter.com/bencjacobs/status/1324057237657133060?s=21
The keyboardist from the Rentals just got elected to the Iowa State House as a Republican in Ottumwa
I may have undershot. Biden by 61k (1.1%) at current.Yep. Wayne is brining it home. 55k is going to be the margin, I think.
This is a possibility.
Is there any chance Trump takes NV, or AZ was called too early and Trump takes AZ?Definitely a chance but it seems real unlikely.
CNN calling Michigan.Nice!
Math time: AZ + NV = 8645
AZ?Tightening wildly. It’s gonna be close, I think. Less than a point. Biden still favored.
So the polls had you fooled into thinking America was more liberal than it is?
Or you still can’t accept that many Americans identify with Trump? You kept assuming all the new turnout was going to go to Biden! Kept telling you that you couldn’t assume that... you almost had this attitude that anybody voting in 2020 that didn’t in 2016 couldn’t possibly vote for Trump
Florida... you been there right? Did you think it was all Coconut Grove and chicks with dicks on South Beach?
Sounds like you don’t know this country very well...it ain’t Arlington
I know it matters only to me but Biden is going to win Michigan by 3+%.
So the polls had you fooled into thinking America was more liberal than it is?
Or you still can’t accept that many Americans identify with Trump? You kept assuming all the new turnout was going to go to Biden! Kept telling you that you couldn’t assume that... you almost had this attitude that anybody voting in 2020 that didn’t in 2016 couldn’t possibly vote for Trump
Florida... you been there right? Did you think it was all Coconut Grove and chicks with dicks on South Beach?
Sounds like you don’t know this country very well...it ain’t Arlington
My mom didn't vote in 2016 and voted for Trump in 2020. She is definitely not a chick with a dick. She is a low critical thinking, uneducated person who fears "socialism" (even though she is of the economic class which most benefits from government programs) and probably even feels comfort in authoritarianism. She's also not even a wee bit racist, though some SJW's would automatically brand her as such.
This would push Biden to 270 among the news agencies that have called AZ for him (Fox, AP, Economist, et al). We would be in a weird scenario and have to see what other networks do if Fox News is actively calling Joe Biden the President Elect in a few hours and they are not.
This would push Biden to 270 among the news agencies that have called AZ for him (Fox, AP, Economist, et al). We would be in a weird scenario and have to see what other networks do if Fox News is actively calling Joe Biden the President Elect in a few hours and they are not.
I know it matters only to me but Biden is going to win Michigan by 3+%.
is something wrong... I have not heard Hunter Biden mentioned in 2 days?He's out there distributing laptops all across the countryside that will one day grow into might desktops.
Many Latinos are strongly against abortionThis. It's this. Everything else in your list added together is not as impactful as this.
Many Latinos are strongly against abortionThis. It's this. Everything else in your list added together is not as impactful as this.
Trump's lead in Pennsylvania now under 100,000 votes
And make short-sleeve sweatshirts cool again.a
is something wrong... I have not heard Hunter Biden mentioned in 2 days?
Georgia down to 3486 vote lead for Trump
1902 Georgia
42142 Pennsylvania
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/K3kR9EZj8Uwk8/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47fb9417e0d8d868a278ce8705f1ac0c0896e1bad8&rid=giphy.gif)
NYTimes
Where are you getting your numbers from? Still 2500+ on google live.
GA down to 1700 per CNN
PA now stands at 18,229
is it too early to uncork the champagne? (asking for a friend)Depends if you personal consider Decision Desk HQ a major news agency. Worst case scenario, the champagne needs to be on a lot of ice and the saber should be in your hand.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmJdOvwW0AAyoia?format=jpg&name=360x360)
I mean Trump May well find funding for his own network and he is definitely nursing a grudge against FoxI said back in 2016 I thought the entire point of his Presidential bid was to launch his own news/media empire. Nothing has changed.
Agree 100%, was all to improve the Trump brand. and if Hil had won, that grift would have worked perfectlyI mean Trump May well find funding for his own network and he is definitely nursing a grudge against FoxI said back in 2016 I thought the entire point of his Presidential bid was to launch his own news/media empire. Nothing has changed.
are there enough votes for Perdue to get to 50%...he doesn't need that manyVery unlikely. Something would have to be really off or a current vote county in one county incorrect.
Also, I can't believe they haven't called KellyI think some places have.
@mocoshow
"Nobody in Montgomery County is surprised how long its taking to get to 270"
and now we get Taco Trucks on every corner!!!thank goodness...but will Biden deliver on this campaign promise?
The Julian Decision Desk is predicting Stage 4 Cancer to be the victor in its battle against Rush Limbaugh.
More time for retrospection later but for as wild as this election cycle seemed, its honestly exactly what we all would've called at the midterms.
Who were the Democrats most likely to nominate in 2018? Joe Biden. There was a wild, contracted battle for the nomination, but ultimately it was Joe Biden who led in polls virtually wire-to-wire.
Who did we speculate would be Joe Biden's running mate? Kamala Harris. There was a wild, contracted battle for the nomination, but ultimately it was Kamala Harris.
What was Biden's path to victory? Winning back PA, MI, and WI which he was uniquely equipped to do as a white, son of the Midwest. What did he flip? PA, MI, and WI.
Like this election cycle seems wild and vitriolic and all that but we are exactly at where we predicted in 2018. Like Georgia (likely) going blue is the one thing off script.
More time for retrospection later but for as wild as this election cycle seemed, its honestly exactly what we all would've called at the midterms.
Who were the Democrats most likely to nominate in 2018? Joe Biden. There was a wild, contracted battle for the nomination, but ultimately it was Joe Biden who led in polls virtually wire-to-wire.
Who did we speculate would be Joe Biden's running mate? Kamala Harris. There was a wild, contracted battle for the nomination, but ultimately it was Kamala Harris.
Like this election cycle seems wild and vitriolic and all that but we are exactly at where we predicted in 2018. Like Georgia (likely) going blue is the one thing off script.
someone just texted me that "Fox has called Penn in favor of Biden, president-elect to address nation tonight" - can anyone confirm??Not on my TV.
Many Latinos are strongly against abortionThis. It's this. Everything else in your list added together is not as impactful as this.
you know nothing about Arlington even though you probably have close to 20 years in it
I am not sure about north Arlington vs south Arlington
To me it’s pretty obvious Arlington is divided by Columbia Ave into N and S
oh shit, just lost a finger trying to do that champagne/saber thing (the key is to super chilling the neck, not the bottom)How do you have telephonic access to me and not get me and Jen on the line if you’re going to try this for the first time? Come on, man!!
Nice to know that's behind us
CNN calls it for Joe BidenHey 2020 .... thanks for NOT being On brand on this one... it was a rough year
Did he just say Yada and Julian are Americans?No, he said I was and Yadas musical taste sucks. Trust me, I was bouncing up and down in my seat.
Am I the only one with issues that they used Coldplay during the fireworks portionOK now I feel horrible as apparently that was Beau’s favorite and played at his funeral
Am I the only one with issues that they used Coldplay during the fireworks portionOK now I feel horrible as apparently that was Beau’s favorite and played at his funeral
should Biden's DOJ investigate Trump and his clan for all of their crimes? Does it help deter people from doing the same thing in the past, and kill him off as a political force?1.Biden and the dems need to reign in Executive power and put some laws/consequences on the books. My understanding is that the Hatch act and Emoluments clause have no teeth and are more gentleman's agreements, not laws. Especially the stuff about nepotism and security clearances. The party in power never wants to do, but if we don't do it, we'll run into this again
Or is it something that should be avoided because it hurts with national unity?Yes...that's why I think the DOJ let's the states do the dirty work with Don. I don't think the DOJ should put a former president on trial.
Everyone sees what they want to see....
should Biden's DOJ investigate Trump and his clan for all of their crimes? Does it help deter people from doing the same thing in the past, and kill him off as a political force?1.Biden and the dems need to reign in Executive power and put some laws/consequences on the books. My understanding is that the Hatch act and Emoluments clause have no teeth and are more gentleman's agreements, not laws. Especially the stuff about nepotism and security clearances. The party in power never wants to do, but if we don't do it, we'll run into this again
2. Well with DJT...NYstate (and possibly) other states may have quite a docket for him to deal with. But I do think that DOJ should do a lot of digging in Jared, Ivanka, D Jr. and Eric. As well as the Roger Stone/Rudy and their ilk. I think there was a LOT of dirty dealing done with this crowd and I want it investigated and documentedQuoteOr is it something that should be avoided because it hurts with national unity?Yes...that's why I think the DOJ let's the states do the dirty work with Don. I don't think the DOJ should put a former president on trial.
What pisses me off about these national unity pleas (and I'm somewhat one of them) is it is very one sided and my opinion is if the shoe was on the other foot, no effort would be made for leiency
turns out one of the participates in that "press conference" is a known sex offender from NJ who has run for multiple offices there... wonder if he made a side trip after the presser :pisn't the point of porn...that you aren't sexually offending some one?
Everyone sees what they want to see....
Doesn't see what they want to see, is probably more accurate.
Everyone sees what they want to see....
Doesn't see what they want to see, is probably more accurate.
That makes no sense
You mean “doesn’t see what they don’t want to see”?
Everyone sees what they want to see....
Doesn't see what they want to see, is probably more accurate.
That makes no sense
You mean “doesn’t see what they don’t want to see”?
No, means I didn't see from Biden what I wanted to see from him. It wasn't anything he actually did (ok, sure fracking pissed me off), it was the absence of what he did that frustrated me.
by the way...White Men also delivered this Biden win...This is the worst take ever.
2016 39 percent voting for Hillary Clinton
2020 42 percent voted for Joe Biden
I mean that 3% is not anything to shrug
It was very tongue in cheek people...relax the fuck downby the way...White Men also delivered this Biden win...This is the worst take ever.
2016 39 percent voting for Hillary Clinton
2020 42 percent voted for Joe Biden
I mean that 3% is not anything to shrug
I hate to say this but here is an unpopular takeyou are right about that...
Hey you got a better idea let’s hear it....I really don't
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/10/politics/joe-manchin-supreme-court-packing-cnntv/index.htmlClassic Manchin. The Dems have a <1% chance of taking the Senate and a ten percent chance of getting the entire party on board with court packing even if they did take the Senate. He then, as he always does, goes against the Dems when his vote is irrelevant to stay in WVs good graces. He then votes for the Dems when his vote actually can decide things.
So according to mitch...the R's who won in state and local elections totally awesome
but refused to accept the outcome of the presidential race on the same ballot
Even brought up 2000 when gore didn't concede until Dec...but that was one state and it was crazy close, not 5 where there is a large margin
Not that we expected anything less
Sad trombone
BREAKING NEWS: Erie, Pa. #USPS whistleblower completely RECANTED his allegations of a supervisor tampering with mail-in ballots after being questioned by investigators, according to IG
https://twitter.com/oversightdems/status/1326289047933816836?s=21 (https://twitter.com/oversightdems/status/1326289047933816836?s=21)
Apparently a Project Veritas special, those conservative dimwits behind the Hunter laptop “scandal”
Hope mr. recanter enjoys his prison time
yup when in doubt do fraud in plain sight by a marked van...well that's how Trump does it, so they just figure everyone else does it that way
Good thing they cloaked this person’s identity ::) ::)
Good thing they cloaked this person’s identity ::) ::)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Emg5EeZW4AIIiy4?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
In the words of George Takei Oh My...
One of the chief MI whistleblowers and I think they need to start checking some suburbs for lead in the water
https://twitter.com/repsforbiden/status/1326979821138743302?s=21
when I think nixon...I think of him getting on the helicopter
WH 2020 ornament...
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Melania announces holiday plans at #WhiteHouse, saying `2020 marks the final holiday season for the Trump White House.'
That announcement was on a fake site.hard to tell the real from satire anymore
noting that if the election challengers had attended orientation, they would know that what they were witnessing was routine.Orientations are for losers...oh wait, maybe then they should have atteneded
I can't say that I've liked any of the GOP WHPS, but Kayleigh always feels like nails on a chalkboardSarah Huckabee Sanders will always be the fucking worst in my personal rankings.
This could be it people....trump speaks in 1 hour!course he's late...4:30
" “I will not go - this administration will not be going to a lockdown. Hopefully the - the uh - whatever happens in the future, who knows which administration it will be, I guess time will tell...”"
can we take that as a concession?
Bolton is a psycho criminalOk there is that...but I do think he has the ears of the top brass in the GOP
In other words, don't trust any polls anymore.I am coming around to this attitude
Trump still got 72+ million votes! Trump is the best American politician of my lifetime... just remarkable... he insulted Latinos and blacks pretty much every day and picked up their votes!Yeah...the number looks to be closer to 74 Mill...an add of 10 million!
you better believe Trump is interested in ensuring a failed Biden presidency and taking over in 2024... just like Trump spent the past four years cheerleading the economy and his government he will spend the next four talking down the economy and every move Biden makes
I suppose if Trump were jailed that could be a wildcard but am not betting on it and even then Trump will support a front for Trump candidacy in 24...
The Cottons, Pences, Haleys will find it hard to defeat Trump or his candidate in 2023 presidential primaries
He wants to be the most famous man in the world and he understands being president makes it soNot exactly how I would word it but correct-ish enough that I won't quibble. He can still get rapturous applause and people hanging off his every word and exist within an echo chamber and be happy as a pig in slop WITHOUT being President again. Like, there really are other things he would be equally as happy half-assing. (And that's why I also don't think he will seriously consider running it back in 2024. He will preen as though he's going to FOR SURE though.)
He wants to be on magazine covers
He is a sick man
Surprising to manyIts almost like black voters didn’t come out for Kamala Harris like I told everyone they wouldn’t.
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1328664224722247681?s=20
Surprising to manyIts almost like black voters didn’t come out for Kamala Harris like I told everyone they wouldn’t.
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1328664224722247681?s=20
Trump still got 72+ million votes! Trump is the best American politician of my lifetime... just remarkable... he insulted Latinos and blacks pretty much every day and picked up their votes!Yeah...the number looks to be closer to 74 Mill...an add of 10 million!
and he did EVERYTHING that people thought would lose him votes including changing the 'conservative' platform with things like Free Trade/Tariffs and insulting the military on many occasions
I also feel that there is a certain part of America who think it's more important to 'own the libs' than pretty much anything else. That is their only goal (well don't take my guns...for the record no one has advocated that)
It's the way people consume news/media now. They were able to speak directly to the base with no filter and they didn't go outside the bubble to see if it was true.
Hey my man. Great thought. Perhaps you could help me see if that’s the case by letting me know if a lower percentage of African Americans voted for the Democratic ticket compared to 2016 despite having a woman of color on the ticket in 2020. Want to make sure I’m not experiencing confirmation bias.Surprising to manyIts almost like black voters didn’t come out for Kamala Harris like I told everyone they wouldn’t.
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1328664224722247681?s=20
When everything you see just proves that you were right, you might be experiencing confirmation bias.
^^ Take that, Harper's Index!exactly!
They aren’t even trying to hide the racism in MI now...
The Wayne County Board of Canvassers just deadlocked on certifying the vote on party lines. This is unprecedented in my 20 years covering government here.
They aren’t even trying to hide the racism in MI now...
The Wayne County Board of Canvassers just deadlocked on certifying the vote on party lines. This is unprecedented in my 20 years covering government here.
Did you see this Zoom call of the Wayne County Board... @NedStaebler basically ripped off their heads and shit down there necks in this meeting
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1328882122724155393?s=20
They aren’t even trying to hide the racism in MI now...
The Wayne County Board of Canvassers just deadlocked on certifying the vote on party lines. This is unprecedented in my 20 years covering government here.
Did you see this Zoom call of the Wayne County Board... @NedStaebler basically ripped off their heads and shit down there necks in this meeting
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1328882122724155393?s=20
Yeah...but seems like things are on the up and up now. but talk about being on top and then being on the bottom
Just read the post-NBA bio of tweeter Rex Chapman. Man, that guy's life has spiraled downward.
Wow it was closer than we thought
From wapo
here are the margins by which Biden won three critical states, as of Wednesday morning:
Arizona: 10,457
Georgia: 14,028
Wisconsin: 20,565
Total: 45,050
But if Trump had managed to get those 45,000 votes, he would have won 37 more electoral votes, making the electoral college a 269-to-269 tie. Under the Constitution, the election would have then been decided by the House of Representatives, with each state delegation getting just one vote. Even though Democrats have a majority in the House, more state delegations have Republican majorities. Trump would have been reelected.
Thats assuming people flip votes. Hutch’s method is more of a “what if his voter turnout was just a bit higher”.Wow it was closer than we thought
From wapo
here are the margins by which Biden won three critical states, as of Wednesday morning:
Arizona: 10,457
Georgia: 14,028
Wisconsin: 20,565
Total: 45,050
But if Trump had managed to get those 45,000 votes, he would have won 37 more electoral votes, making the electoral college a 269-to-269 tie. Under the Constitution, the election would have then been decided by the House of Representatives, with each state delegation getting just one vote. Even though Democrats have a majority in the House, more state delegations have Republican majorities. Trump would have been reelected.
Trump actually wouldn't have needed those 45,050 votes. He only needed one more than half of those margins. He would have needed 5229 in Arizona, 7015 in Georgia, and 10,283 in Wisconsin. So really he only fell 22,527 votes short.
And if you believe it was “close” does that mean it was close in 2016???This is sarcasm, right?
Because I don’t remember hearing much about how it was close in 2016
2. The American people are not liberalThis is a bitter pill and I'm coming around
Just keep repeating it until it sinks in.
1. Trump is the greatest presidential politician since LBJWhat? My perspective on LBJ and yours are VERY different.
I know, I didn't even want to acknowledge that statement1. Trump is the greatest presidential politician since LBJWhat? My perspective on LBJ and yours are VERY different.
Looks like the Wayne County "patriots" are now worth 2 or 3 Stormys as they have reversed course on certifying those results... screw these people...
Putting the 'riot' back in patriotLooks like the Wayne County "patriots" are now worth 2 or 3 Stormys as they have reversed course on certifying those results... screw these people...
now they are reporting Trump called these "patriot" personally prior to them reversing their votes, can someone say interference...
The Trump campaign is dropping its federal lawsuit in Michigan that alleged voting irregularities and asked the court to stop certifying votes in Wayne County.
I have been running through in my head the prospect that Biden might after the mid-terms just say "hey, I ran as a transitional candidate, and I am not running again, what is the best way to help Dems hold onto the WH -- hand over the reins to Kamala so she can run with an incumbency advantage."
I think if Biden is (relatively) humble, this is low key a good idea, especially if he genuinely likes her and wants her to get the 2024 nomination. But doesn't that make the midterms uber critical? In this hypothetical, would we all be in agreement that if the GOP holds either the Senate or House, there is no way they confirm Kamala's VP replacement nominee? (Especially if they retake the House and have Speakership.)
Thoughts?
Oh I've seen the Cusack film and know all I need to know about Gross Point...killer soundtrack tho
Yes, Michiganders, you read that last part correctlyYou can just say "Jules". I write Julian's America -- I know the demographic mix of Grosse Pointe.
Can he just 'retire' mid term and give it to the VP?He can retire and give her the Presidency any time after the Electoral College votes. But a VP vacancy (like if a VP dies or ascends to the Presidency), their replacement VP pick must be ratified by a majority of BOTH the House and Senate. Otherwise, it remains unfilled.
and the senate has to confirm the new VP?
Too many people would see her as "not following the proper channels" or "being gifted presidency".That's a fair point. Its an interesting thought experiment on if the incumbency advantage (assuming COVID is effectively eradicated and the economy is on the upswing) outweighs the chum such a move throws to the GOPs base of sharks.
total tangent...but what is an AnalogFossa?
The fossa is a cat-like, carnivorous mammal endemic to Madagascar. It is a member of the Eupleridae, a family of carnivorans closely related to the mongoose family Herpestidae. Its classification has been controversial because its physical traits resemble those of cats, yet other traits suggest a close relationship with viverrids.
Plan B was some scary end times shit...I think I have said this on here before: this is literally all spelled out in white supremacist lit. Go read The Turner Diaries or any of the other big WS touchstones. They all purport the fantasy that it just takes a few people to start killing minorities/politicians publicly and a groundswell of the rest of white people will join in. Timothy McVeigh was all about this. This trashass thinking has a major foothold in rural Michigan. Its terrifying. I have a cousin who married into a weird family and they live like 90 minutes outside of Detroit in a compound "so the blacks cannot get in" and their kid (my second cousin) posts online these demented-ass comic books he draws about Barack Obama being the antichrist and how he (and some of our family members, "race traitors") are going to drawn and quartered by white armies soon.
Were these guys willing to die for this?
Thats assuming people flip votes.Wow it was closer than we thought
From wapo
here are the margins by which Biden won three critical states, as of Wednesday morning:
Arizona: 10,457
Georgia: 14,028
Wisconsin: 20,565
Total: 45,050
But if Trump had managed to get those 45,000 votes, he would have won 37 more electoral votes, making the electoral college a 269-to-269 tie. Under the Constitution, the election would have then been decided by the House of Representatives, with each state delegation getting just one vote. Even though Democrats have a majority in the House, more state delegations have Republican majorities. Trump would have been reelected.
Trump actually wouldn't have needed those 45,050 votes. He only needed one more than half of those margins. He would have needed 5229 in Arizona, 7015 in Georgia, and 10,283 in Wisconsin. So really he only fell 22,527 votes short.
1. Trump is the greatest presidential politician since LBJWhat? My perspective on LBJ and yours are VERY different.
I mean have you guys listened to the LBJ White House phone calls? He knew how to govern...how to handle the levers of power...I agree on both these points. I thought you meant he was the greatest at the political act of getting elected President which, no. . .
Obama on the other hand was atrocious
I *believe* its Analog Foss AA fossa is a mammal based in Managascar. I was looking at articles about them when I made this profile haha.
Oh and this idea Biden is going to cede power? Why? He has been trying to get elected president for over 32 years and now that he has done is going to anoint Kamala?
Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac...people don’t give it up...
LBJ
I would be extremely surprised if Biden attempts to run for a second term.
A fossa is a mammal based in Managascar.I was right!
I would be extremely surprised if Biden attempts to run for a second term.at this point he still has to start this one
The reality is we don’t even know how involved she already is!are you referring to Jill here?
What is the endgame here. If the States certify, and the electors elect, do some of these fuckers actually take up arms against the Biden Admin?
I would be extremely surprised if Biden attempts to run for a second term.at this point he still has to start this oneThe reality is we don’t even know how involved she already is!are you referring to Jill here?
Civil war keeps getting closerwith 70% of 73 million voters thinking it was rigged/fraud AND they are armed is not a good recipe
GA has been certified
The Georgia Secretary of State’s office has officially certified the results of the 2020 election, which includes President-elect Biden’s victory.
The certification comes after the conclusion of a hand recount and audit of approximately 5 million ballots.
GA has been certifiedApparently, this wasn't 'official' then...but is now
The Georgia Secretary of State’s office has officially certified the results of the 2020 election, which includes President-elect Biden’s victory.
The certification comes after the conclusion of a hand recount and audit of approximately 5 million ballots.
One of my new favorite human beings is the Lieutenant Gov of PA John Fetterman. And seriously this dude needs to a big face in the Democrats seems very straight forward and no malarkey.... Great follow on the TwitterHis wives description on Twitter just killed me
Team trump win/loss in the courts for Election 2020:
2 - Wins (one of them I think gave them 9~ votes in PA?)
34 - Losses
I want to use a sports analogy, but the closest thing is "The Washing Generals have a better record that Trump's legal team"
Looking forward to the clips from thisand apparently, she chickened out
@GSAEmily Murphy will appear before Congress today to answer questions about her decision to withhold approval for the transition.
And who will be among those questioning her?
@RepKatiePorter
Everyone knows that isn’t going to happenI think there are 70 million trump voters and a rightwing media industry that doesn't agree with you
This shit misses the pointSo on one hand, I agree. But to be able to show how baseless and time-wasting all this stuff is, it is good (IMO) to be able to show what happened with 'all those cases that were taken up in the states'
The state of Michigan just certified President-elect Biden’s win
@GSAEmily Murphy will appear before Congress today
I guess the concern of the consequences of lying under oath made her revisit her position
and apparently, she chickened out[/i]
When he tells me to freak I will do so otherwise ignoring noisemaybe that's the catchphrase we didn't know we needed...
I made my decisions completely independently.Independently. Just happened to take place mere minutes after Donald Trump tweeted I should go ahead and do it, but independently.
Is it me or does it seem like there has been a lot of winning...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnrjmmcXMAMPr7U?format=jpg&name=medium)
Happpy Kraken Day!!!!
Kraken Holds Press Conference To Distance Itself From Trump Campaign (https://babylonbee.com/news/kraken-holds-press-conference-to-distance-itself-from-trump-campaign/)Hmm...are we really sure that was the Kraken...
Wow it was closer than we thought
From wapo
here are the margins by which Biden won three critical states, as of Wednesday morning:
Arizona: 10,457
Georgia: 14,028
Wisconsin: 20,565
Total: 45,050
But if Trump had managed to get those 45,000 votes, he would have won 37 more electoral votes, making the electoral college a 269-to-269 tie. Under the Constitution, the election would have then been decided by the House of Representatives, with each state delegation getting just one vote. Even though Democrats have a majority in the House, more state delegations have Republican majorities. Trump would have been reelected.
Does this mean Barr is getting axed via tweet next????somehow I missed this
@AP AG William Barr tells the AP that Justice Dept. hasn't uncovered widespread voting fraud that could have changed 2020 election outcome.
wow...this man is seriously insane
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1334240039639937026?s=20 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1334240039639937026?s=20)
edit -- Jez this is the single version...there is an extended 12-inch version where he does this for 45 minutes
Oh this one is a doozy even for republicans
North Korean vessels delivered ballots through Maine Harbor.
So do we think they went through the Panama Canal or around cape horn?
climate change always seems to help the libsOh this one is a doozy even for republicans
North Korean vessels delivered ballots through Maine Harbor.
So do we think they went through the Panama Canal or around cape horn?
wouldn't the northwest passage (through the arctic) be quicker?
A big realignment has happened...one could dismiss 2016 as a one off but not anymore
Democratic Party is now the party of middle and upper middle class and lower upper class
Republican Party is party of the poor and lower middle class and really rich
With exception of black people who still vote D
Democrats better get economic growth going or they will lose 2024.. it’s that simple..
just more hypocrisy from the "state rights and smaller government" party...You know that 'state's rights' just meant, "we want to enact racist policies in our state that the Feds can't overrule, but want a more family-friendly way of saying it"
Well that’s the “trick” isn’t it?it always boggles my mind that the poor folk are easily convinced to vote against their own interests...
It seems completely counterintuitive but here we are...
Well that’s the “trick” isn’t it?
Nothing lends your bogus Supreme Court request more credence than someone forming new states on their own to join the case...
Say hello to New Nevada and New California!!!
https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1337443032636010508?s=21 (https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1337443032636010508?s=21)
I say let Texas succeed...Worst spelling error ever.
A big realignment has happened...one could dismiss 2016 as a one off but not anymore
Democratic Party is now the party of middle and upper middle class and lower upper class
Republican Party is party of the poor and lower middle class and really rich
With exception of black people many of whom are poor and who still vote D
Democrats better get economic growth going or they will lose 2024.. it’s that simple..
A big realignment has happened...one could dismiss 2016 as a one off but not anymore
Democratic Party is now the party of middle and upper middle class and lower upper class
Republican Party is party of the poor and lower middle class and really rich
With exception of black people many of whom are poor and who still vote D
Democrats better get economic growth going or they will lose 2024.. it’s that simple..
Mock election rest finally in from my daughter's school. Not sure if it's just one class or a collection of classes.. But the winner was Trump. No wonder my kid hates her school.
And our school is neither very rich, poor, not lower middle class.
Fairfax results for Space Freely
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/elections/sites/elections/files/assets/result/resu1120.pdf
I think a 1/4 Stormy would be highway robbery
I been thinking about the Latino voteAbortion and Cuba.
It went up for Trump across the board...why?
An affinity with authoritarianism? Race relations between Latinos and blacks and Black Lives Matter? A mix...
There has to be a reason
I think they were concerned about the taco truck on every corner, can't belive Joe is still planning on doing that
I been thinking about the Latino voteAbortion and Cuba.
It went up for Trump across the board...why?
An affinity with authoritarianism? Race relations between Latinos and blacks and Black Lives Matter? A mix...
There has to be a reason
Newsom picked Alex Padilla to replace Kamala in Senate
Bass or Alex Padilla are probably your favorites.
Newsom picked Alex Padilla to replace Kamala in SenateBass or Alex Padilla are probably your favorites.
*coughs*
then started comparing it to Equal Opp type laws, ya know whereas a hotel owner you have to rent to black or Muslim people even if you didn't want to, why shouldn't Twitter have the same kind of rule.
the correct analogy here is a hotel owner refusing to rent to someone after they shit all over the lobby. everyone is allowed to stay at the hotel as long as they respect the hotel's rules. if you don't like the hotel's rules, go somewhere else. no one is forcing you to stay at that hotel.A specific rule about defecating in the lobby? Would the rule be you can't destroy property and I can have you thrown out/refuse service for doing that even if you paid
*Still think we are all crazy?OK we are feuding again in 2021, it’s decided.
I don't even understand what's going on anymoreany statement that starts with this :
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mike-pence-sued-by-louie-gohmert-kelli-ward-pack-of-republicans-to-force-vp-to-pick-trump-electors-on-jan-6
the correct analogy here is a hotel owner refusing to rent to someone after they shit all over the lobby. everyone is allowed to stay at the hotel as long as they respect the hotel's rules. if you don't like the hotel's rules, go somewhere else. no one is forcing you to stay at that hotel.Here was a better analogy
One of my new favorite human beings is the Lieutenant Gov of PA John Fetterman.https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman/status/1343604451601473538
https://twitter.com/JohnFetterman
Ever heard of the National Security Medal?Welp, can confirm...
Yeah, me neither.
Not that it really matters, but he gave one to Jared, Pompeo, Mnuchin and others for Peace in the Mid-east?!?
Guess DJT is still mad that Obama got a NPP
wasn't even the right medalWelp, can confirm...David Gura
Guess DJT is still mad that Obama got a NPP
@davidgura
A video President Trump tweeted today features the Nobel Peace Prize superimposed over photographs of him with the prime minister of Israel, and the foreign ministers of Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates.
A REMINDER: The president has not been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
No comments on the Georgia call? You guys are disappointing me.I listened to the first 45 min actually. The highlights are all that’s needed — it’s mostly dull. Trump just comes off very uneducated on every issue. Like he’s clearly reading things off paper and not even knowing what he’s saying.
I am no longer following what our outgoing President does..
I urge good Americans to do the same
I am no longer following what our outgoing President does..
I urge good Americans to do the same
Jeebus man, don't look away yet. Give it at least a few weeks.
you should be paying more attention to the winner..you know: Biden...it’s pretty obvious you should be following his lead...Here we go with 'no criming' joe, not sure I can take four years of this ;)
You want to rationalize paying attention to Trump but the truth is you are addicted to his show...you want to think you are being a good citizen by paying attention..you been telling yourself this for over four years..and it’s tough to let it go
It’s pretty obvious you should be paying more attention to the winner..you know: Biden...it’s pretty obvious you should be following his lead..if there’s a need for you to go back to watching the Trump show or freak out - trust me- Biden will let you know
Trump is that crazy relative at Thanksgiving... ignore him
That’s exactly what he wants - NEEDS - you to think...
That’s his power
He’s a lame duck who just got overridden by Congress..and by Mitch.. the courts have laughed his 823 challenges out the door
this is going to be a long 16 days!
I can't do it, I'm going to try but I just can't stop looking at the car accidentthis is going to be a long 16 days!
Depends. If you've got your head in the sand, you don't so much notice the passage of time.
What are YOU doing?I donated again to Oss/War even though they have been treating my inbox like a two dollar whore
Or if you have your head out of your ass.... time goes faster
The only thing I am looking at is Georgia
The other thing that gets me is so people think paying attention means they are doing something? I mean what is Space going to do from his government job, change a 9 into a 6 or remove a decimal? Seems to me if you really where going to resist this Trump onslaught you might have, you know, quit your government job? What exactly does paying attention accomplish? You are able to post your concern about Georgia on the 930 board? So??? You are ready to take up arms for the resistance? Please. Don’t flatter yourself.
Let's change the subject: how does everyone see GA playing out tomorrow. Here's my ranking of the likeliness of each possible outcome:
1. GOP wins both
2. Warnock/Perdue
3. Dems win both
4. A meteor wipes the state of Georgia off the map pre-election
5. Ossoff/Loeffler
i say they split the two seats, and the senate gets even less done than usual with a 1-vote GOP majority. it'll be easy to pick off a romney or someone similar on the important stuff, so nothing gets passed. the end.
I'm am on pins and needles
I'd love an upset here...it would just be so satisfying
Look at the NYT needle, people. Almost votes aren’t counted in metro Atlanta counties.
Wasserman has seen enoughYou’re following the person I said is the only worthwhile Twitter feed.
Warnock wins
Went from a ten point lead to a 5 point leadI fuckin' called it...
Dumps, we are seeing dumps everywhere
Just fuckin ignore him!!I know
..but I'm always a foolish dem optimistman of course the one I win didn't have any prizes
..but I'm always a foolish dem optimistman of course the one I win didn't have any prizes
So 2020 GA GE Total votes 4,999,960 (man, they couldn't just find 41 votes to break 5 mil)
what are we thinking SE 2021 turnout is like
I sent your record package weeks ago..hope it doesn’t get lostit just came the other day and I meant to thank you
Love seeing these loser proud boys getting fucked up on the streets.
TikTok,Oh and leave tikTok out of it, I can't handle what that will do to disrupt family harmony if that gets taken down
I sent your record package weeks ago..hope it doesn’t get lostit just came the other day and I meant to thank you
Nice with the Ben Andrews and a Ductch London Calling!
(actually, it was 7 for 7 on the selection)
Its really wild sitting here with the Dems having just pulled the Senate out of the fire and reflecting on how close Perdue came to getting to 50% in the regular election and that seat not going to a special election at all.
Harris/Ossoff 2024. Hottest ticket ever....Harrisossoff. Is there nothing Putin won't meddle with!?!
Harris/Ossoff 2024. Hottest ticket ever....he'll be 37 in 2024...
he said one term...I'm taking him at his word
It will depend on how it’s going and on his health...it will, but he'll be 82 in 2024...
Wait I missed Bearman! was it right at the beginning?Nice! 26 mins in
Wait I missed Bearman! was it right at the beginning?
BREAKING: Trump supporters have breached the Capitol building, tearing down 4 layers of security fencing and are attempting to occupy the building — fighting federal police who are overrun
video in tweet
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1346881968819105792
gunfire into the house chamberSource? I'm watching and not seen/heard anything of this.
The lack of preparation is simply astonishingyeah...I was surprised they could get in ...seems like it could have been somewhat easy to stop
The lack of preparation is simply astonishingyeah...I was surprised they could get in ...seems like it could have been somewhat easy to stop
Reports of a traitor sitting in Pence's chairyeah...I just saw video of about 15 MAGAs just casually walking around the senate chamber with their flags
Reports of a traitor sitting in Pence's chairI mean, footage on CNN.
This has the look of an inside job. How else could this breach have happened so easily?
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1346920198461419520This has the look of an inside job. How else could this breach have happened so easily?
implicit bias: they let it happen because they're all white. everything was fine, until it wasn't and it was too late.
seems like a million years ago, but the major news networks are calling it for Ossoff now...not last night at 10PM
Even thought Wasserman was right...still was too early to call it
Woman in critical condition after being shot in the chest on capitol grounds!woman has died...no detail other than she was shot on capitol grounds
Why would the person encouraging an insurrection deploy the national guard to prevent the insurrection?
NYT was reporting Pence authorized the DC NG not Trump, no?Why would the person encouraging an insurrection deploy the national guard to prevent the insurrection?
They wouldn't.
this for JulesTweet of the Day
Bunkie Perkins@BunkiePerkins
Tommy Tuberville gets sworn in and the Capitol’s defense immediately falls apart.
Hawley will be ever present on the conservative "news" networks for the next four years, he will be the poster boy standing up against any "socialist" program put forth. because dammit poor white rural americans have the right not to have their lives made better by social programs... unless of course they are farm subsidies but details... and ain't no one coming to take away their backwards stuck in the past way of life.
Hawley will be ever present on the conservative "news" networks for the next four years, he will be the poster boy standing up against any "socialist" program put forth. because dammit poor white rural americans have the right not to have their lives made better by social programs... unless of course they are farm subsidies but details... and ain't no one coming to take away their backwards stuck in the past way of life.
He needs to be expelled from the Senate.
I must confess I did not know that but I never been on parlerme neither...but follow @parlertakes on twitter and you get some insight
I must confess I did not know that but I never been on parlerme neither...but follow @parlertakes on twitter and you get some insight
it's crazy towns
Lin is absolutely bonkers and I'm surprised that Trump hasn't put a hit on him at this point
Yesterday/this early morning is possibly the maddest I've ever been at people on the other side of the aisle. Josh Hawley can eat a fucking stick of dynamite.
Oh, well, color me assuaged.Yesterday/this early morning is possibly the maddest I've ever been at people on the other side of the aisle. Josh Hawley can eat a fucking stick of dynamite.
The White House has this response for you.
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1347204125579161601/photo/1
I just hope this debacle represents the breaking of the fever..the equivalent of the McCarthy hearings “have you no decency sir?” moment
But it’s not looking that way
At all
Biden Wins!!Have to admit: Trump was right. I'm getting a little tired of all the winning.
I must confess I did not know that but I never been on parler@parlertakes
I just watched it..it’s a weird message...so conciliatory and acceptingok I forced myself through the 2 mins
I almost thought for a second he was going to concede, but I think peoples heads would have exploed
I almost thought for a second he was going to concede, but I think peoples heads would have exploed
that was absolutely a concession speech. a trumpworld version thereof, but definitely a concession. there was no talk of "continuing the fight", he said that he tried in court and it didn't work, a new prez will be inaugurated on 1/20 and his focus will be on a peaceful transition. it's two months too late, but here we are.
the message finally got through to him: you done fucked up bigly, donnie, and if you don't right this ship ASAP what little you have left will go down in flames. i'm sure the white house knew about the capitol police officer that was on life support (and eventually died)... i'm wondering if that influenced him/those around him.
"One of the nutjobs who was at the insurrection and is championing it on Facebook is a Virginia State Senator who is running for governor.She is in the District just south of Richmond so I miss nothing she does and I can assure everyone: she is the absolute fucking worst human being in the Commonwealth of Virginia. An absolutely deranged monster.
https://www.facebook.com/Chase4Senate/
"One of the nutjobs who was at the insurrection and is championing it on Facebook is a Virginia State Senator who is running for governor.She is in the District just south of Richmond so I miss nothing she does and I can assure everyone: she is the absolute fucking worst human being in the Commonwealth of Virginia. An absolutely deranged monster.
https://www.facebook.com/Chase4Senate/
i realize protocol dictates the creation of 2022 thread for this, but to lazy to do so...ahem Lieutenant Governor of Pennsylvania
But everyone's favorite Deputy Governor of PA is beginning to fundraise for a possible PA senate run
No one detests Liberty more than me -- eat a dick, Hugh Freeze -- but this woman is pure insanity and is surrounded by Proud Boys with assault rifles everywhere she goes. She is legitimately dangerous."One of the nutjobs who was at the insurrection and is championing it on Facebook is a Virginia State Senator who is running for governor.She is in the District just south of Richmond so I miss nothing she does and I can assure everyone: she is the absolute fucking worst human being in the Commonwealth of Virginia. An absolutely deranged monster.
https://www.facebook.com/Chase4Senate/
Worse than anyone affiliated with Liberty University? Who am I to argue? I will pass along this petition to expel her. Apparently, my idea wasn't original.
https://sign.moveon.org/petitions/expel-amanda-chase-from-virginia-senate?bucket&source=facebook-share-button&time=1610118792&utm_campaign&utm_source=facebook&share=f18e5350-9c05-4386-b64c-58239d82cfb6&fbclid=IwAR2SfreSzKpB2Yj6ZsJLgCDtBL1AefVfhZUiycpfs4e1PtfdiKEas61jq-I
wow...good news!
The President has officially announced he will not attend the inauguration of President-Elect Joe Biden on January 20th.
just like his favorite Andy J did
2021 is looking exactly like 2020(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErO9F3-W8AAxUe5?format=jpg&name=medium)
Yeah, just heard about this today...fucking unbelievable
OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS flashed badges
ACTIVE MILITARY flashed creds
Gosh I just don’t like herWere you on here back in the halcyon days of this community when she was also a regular poster?
I meant the woman in the videoOh, I totally misread your comment.
But no I was not here..
Wait that wasn’t “Celeste” in the video, right?
A SCOTUS's wife is a QnutjobSo is it crazy to float the idea that Thomas is 'compromised' and being married to a seditionist...well kinda makes ya unfit to work at the SCOTUS?
Don't they know that Woody Guthrie was a Socialist?That is funny, my understanding is Woody even wrote a song about Fred Trump...and not in a positive light
There go Andrew Gillum's chances at...well whatever it was he still had a chance at.andrew is getting ready to go through some things unrelated to his meth sex party
There go Andrew Gillum's chances at...well whatever it was he still had a chance at.andrew is getting ready to go through some things unrelated to his meth sex party