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Title: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on March 23, 2012, 10:30:48 am
Is there a thread for this that already exists? If not, can this be it?? If there is, can you delete this thread?

Anyway, Kurt Vile last night...

I felt bad for him and the band, literally there were about 50 people there max and I bet they actually sold about 20 tickets. I think the others were freebies... Good show nonetheless.
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Post by: hutch on March 23, 2012, 10:35:49 am
about 50 people there max and I bet they actually sold about 20 tickets. I think the others were freebies...

 :o



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Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 23, 2012, 10:53:20 am
That is an absolute shame.  Have never seen him and would have loved to go last night but I'm still on detox from SXSW.

This is a great thread idea, though.
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Post by: Yada on March 23, 2012, 10:54:54 am
That is an absolute shame.  Have never seen him and would have loved to go last night but I'm still on detox from SXSW.

This is a great thread idea, though.

It is a shame... Having a top 10 album in 2011 to literally not even being able to get 100 people in a room.
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Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on March 23, 2012, 11:55:31 am
for what it's worth, kurt vile's show in richmond tonight (at a ~300 person club) is sold out.
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Post by: Yada on March 23, 2012, 12:08:01 pm
for what it's worth, kurt vile's show in richmond tonight (at a ~300 person club) is sold out.

That's good to hear... I'm assuming this show would've sold out at the Black Cat or R+R Hotel as well. B-more'd.
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Post by: Justin Tonation on March 23, 2012, 12:16:13 pm
Is there a thread for this that already exists? If not, can this be it?? If there is, can you delete this thread?

Anyway, Kurt Vile last night...

I felt bad for him and the band, literally there were about 50 people there max and I bet they actually sold about 20 tickets. I think the others were freebies... Good show nonetheless.

Same night as the Doug Aitken "Song 1" opening at the Hirshhorn, which was free.
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Post by: James Ford on March 23, 2012, 12:54:07 pm
Top 10 on what chart?

That is an absolute shame.  Have never seen him and would have loved to go last night but I'm still on detox from SXSW.

This is a great thread idea, though.

It is a shame... Having a top 10 album in 2011 to literally not even being able to get 100 people in a room.
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Post by: killsaly on March 23, 2012, 01:04:51 pm
39 on Rolling Stone
5 on NME
9 on Prefix

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Post by: Bagley on March 23, 2012, 01:11:35 pm
#20 on Village Voice Pazz and Jop- over 700 critics!
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Post by: James Ford on March 23, 2012, 01:12:13 pm
So that's at least three people who are fans. Three music critics. You know, people who likely don't have many friends and surely don't have a partner to bring to the show.

39 on Rolling Stone
5 on NME
9 on Prefix

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Post by: hutch on March 23, 2012, 01:17:33 pm
well he does suck live.. maybe word got out after that horrible black cat show (the one he opened for thurston moore)

I don't know how else to explain it..
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Post by: Vas Deferens on March 23, 2012, 01:25:58 pm
I think it was a last minute booking and Rams Head Live was the only available venue.

I think he and his band benefitted from RHL's sound system though there was a little bit of problem with the sax during Freak Train.

Overall, I thought the show was fantastic and they played for a good 90 minutes. No complaints there.

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Post by: Yada on March 23, 2012, 01:53:11 pm
I think it was a last minute booking and Rams Head Live was the only available venue.

I think he and his band benefitted from RHL's sound system though there was a little bit of problem with the sax during Freak Train.

Overall, I thought the show was fantastic and they played for a good 90 minutes. No complaints there.



No complaints about the show Vas, just disappointing in the turn out.

Actually, one complaint... When he played acoustic with the full band, he was completely blown over in sound and you couldn't hear him too well on acoustic IMO.

James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!
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Post by: James Ford on March 23, 2012, 02:15:41 pm
Glad I can make you chuckle!

When I sent my top 20 list to my friends, most of whom are white middle aged dudes and babes, most didn't email me back. But among the few who did, I'd hear comments like, "Wow, I've actually heard of a few of those!"

I'd wager that most middle aged people, particularly with kids, probably didn't even listen to ten new albums in 2011, much less listen to enough albums both good and bad to compile a top 20 list.

And for the record, Kurt Vile is pretty middle of the road musically. I bet he'd be right up the alley of plenty 40something white dudes, if they gave him a listen.


James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!
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Post by: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam fan on March 23, 2012, 02:47:54 pm
And for the record, Kurt Vile is pretty middle of the road musically. I bet he'd be right up the alley of plenty 40something white dudes, if they gave him a listen.

Shit, I guess I have to go buy some music
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Post by: bearman🐻 on March 25, 2012, 10:03:29 am
Really enjoyed the Bad Religion show on the Mall. The rain held off through most of their performance too. I was surprised at how good they sounded (at least where I was standing).
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Post by: serpent boy on March 25, 2012, 03:22:27 pm
I very much enjoyed The Black Keys and Arctic Monkeys on Friday night in Norfolk. (I live down here now, so I saw this show instead of the D.C. performance.)

Arctic Monkeys were a lot more energetic than I expected. Alex Turner had some charisma that I always heard was lacking in their performances. Stuff like "Pretty Visitors" came across really well live.

The Black Keys definitely can own an arena, no doubt about it. I just wish they'd mix up their setlists a bit or throw in a few more old tracks like "Stack Shot Billy."
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Post by: Yada on March 25, 2012, 04:29:25 pm
I very much enjoyed The Black Keys and Arctic Monkeys on Friday night in Norfolk. (I live down here now, so I saw this show instead of the D.C. performance.)

Arctic Monkeys were a lot more energetic than I expected. Alex Turner had some charisma that I always heard was lacking in their performances. Stuff like "Pretty Visitors" came across really well live.

The Black Keys definitely can own an arena, no doubt about it. I just wish they'd mix up their setlists a bit or throw in a few more old tracks like "Stack Shot Billy."

I guess it's par for the course for bands to play their recent albums especially in support of a tour, but I agree.. the older stuff in their catalog rips. I'm sure we can expect a Keys tour years down the line where they play all of "Thickfreakness" "Rubber Factory" etc in their entirety.
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Post by: K8teebug on April 02, 2012, 08:37:51 am
Cloud Nothings were terrific on Saturday night.  Been quite some time since I've been so impressed by a band.  Great seeing them in such a small space!  Did anyone go to the ottobar last night?

I forgot how terrible the sound in the Verizon Center is.  Bruce was good, but the sound is just heinous in there.  Springsteen fans are adorable.  I'm not a big fan, and won tickets from the radio, but I'm glad I got to go.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2012, 10:01:35 am
Caught the Ottobar show last night.  Arrived late and missed out on most of the first band's set.  Mellotron or something?  Liked what I heard.

Cloud Nothings tore thru their set as usual but Dylan's amp went out late in the set (mid-song) so the rest of the band jammed for what seemed like 10 minutes while he tried to fix things.  He may have been frustrated but I really enjoyed it.

The crowd was surprisingly tame but I blame that on being a Sunday.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on April 02, 2012, 10:27:52 am
Song is called "Wasted Days". The amp went out third to last song and bassist had tantrum...in return the crowd did not ask for an encore.

I'm a fan of the music, the Weird Al-like vocals-not so much.

A Classic Education (the other opener) were great...but very short set :(




Cloud Nothings tore thru their set as usual but Dylan's amp went out late in the set (mid-song) so the rest of the band jammed for what seemed like 10 minutes while he tried to fix things. 

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Post by: K8teebug on April 02, 2012, 10:41:14 am
Sorry to hear about their amp problems last night.  Was it crowded?  I was surprised to hear that they were shocked at the sell out in DC.
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Post by: sonickteam on April 02, 2012, 10:55:51 am
Sorry to hear about their amp problems last night.  Was it crowded?  I was surprised to hear that they were shocked at the sell out in DC.

I was there last night too.  Ottobar maybe half full? (i was at the very front so was hard for me to tell). 

I thought they were great.  Wasted Days was my favourite.    I also thought once or twice that they would lose nothing by becoming an instrumental only band. 

crowd was tame, and all left the second it was over, i agree cause of the sunday thing.

the lead guitarist was very nice after the show too. :)
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Post by: K8teebug on April 02, 2012, 11:33:38 am
They were one of the nicest bands I ever met.  I hope they made it to Koco's pub for crabcakes :)
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Post by: K8teebug on April 02, 2012, 11:34:28 am
oops...they're closed sunday and monday!  oh well. 
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 02, 2012, 11:41:43 am
Song is called "Wasted Days". The amp went out third to last song and bassist had tantrum...in return the crowd did not ask for an encore.


The drummer started taking his cymbals apart the second they finished their last song.  At that point I knew an encore wasn't happening so I went back and grabbed some vinyl.

Their other guitarist had problems after Wasted Days and I think at that point they'd just had it.  Shame, too, because they were all clearly in great moods at the onset.

I guess it was the bassist's turn to man their merch table - he was nice as hell.  I wanted to give the guitarist grief for stirring up trouble at the Mind Spiders show at SXSW but I just grabbed my stuff and went home.
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Post by: K8teebug on April 02, 2012, 12:08:53 pm
They were all out after the Red Palace show.  Played all of Attack on Memory and three of their old songs for an encore.  Wasted Days just killed.  Killed!  Crowd was pretty into the show too. 

Plus, the loud muffins shirt is funny and cute.
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Post by: Jaguar on April 02, 2012, 05:54:31 pm
Mellotron or something?  Liked what I heard.

Was it Dead Mellotron? He's a cool Shoegaze guy from Kentucky. Have been playing his music on Air Atlantic Underground Radio for a few years now.


I still want to hear (read) about both Alcest shows and A Place To Bury Strangers, even though I know it will drive me crazy.
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Post by: killsaly on April 02, 2012, 08:11:08 pm
It was Dead Mellotron.  I see him listed as repping Baltimore now.  As for Alcest; dark, smoky, fuzzy, hard, pretty, melodic, great. I have a few pics I was going to put up later as well.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 03, 2012, 01:04:09 am
I missed Alcest but APTBS have improved greatly as a live unit. Only played a few older songs. Most of their material was off the last LP and EP; both of which I am not as familiar. They still do the noise jam in the middle of "I've Waited My Life..." which is still pretty cool.
And Wild Flag were in incredible form. Best DC show to date. Television and Margin Walker covers, four new songs and the whole album.
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Post by: ggw on April 03, 2012, 08:34:40 am
Yeah - Wild Flag were great. Nice to hear Carrie channel her inner Guy. But they still make me pine for S-K.
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Post by: sweetcell on April 03, 2012, 09:51:28 am
did anyone make it to Temper Trap this past saturday?
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Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on April 04, 2012, 11:13:13 am
anyone see Of Monsters and Men?
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Post by: hutch on April 04, 2012, 11:18:42 am
anyone make it to Oompah Loompah?
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Post by: killsaly on April 04, 2012, 11:26:05 am
Ill throw in a "did anyone make it" as well... Swervedriver?

I was going to go, but then found out they played at 9:00, and it was already 8:30, so I stayed home.  I should have checked earlier, I just assumed they wouldnt play until 11 or so, since it was a Friday night.
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Post by: sonickteam on April 05, 2012, 09:12:07 am
Real Estate was fucking awesome last night.  So tight sounding.  New stuff sounds really good.

Guitarist said "Baltimore is always a better crowd than DC for some reason"

i dont know what it is about a band walking on stage to a Grateful Dead song that makes me respect them a bit more.  especially when they dont sound like GD.

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Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 05, 2012, 09:35:16 am
"Baltimore is always a better crowd than DC for some reason"

Ain't that the truth.

Great show.  I thought Twerps were really good, too, tho I hate the band's name.  Nice sized crowd.  Had to be close to a sell out, tho they had tix at the door.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 05, 2012, 09:41:45 am
if baltimore is such a great crowd . . . why can't a single band sell out a single show at a single venue?
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 05, 2012, 09:57:45 am
What does that have to do with the "quality" of the crowd?
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 05, 2012, 10:04:58 am
quality = quantity

a show where five people come  = shitty crowd

a sold out show where five thousand people come = good crowd

a show where five people show and are awesome as five people = still, a shitty crowd
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Post by: James Ford on April 05, 2012, 10:08:24 am
Alabama Shakes just sold out RHL before the release of their first album.

if baltimore is such a great crowd . . . why can't a single band sell out a single show at a single venue?
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 05, 2012, 10:11:58 am
Alabama Shakes just sold out RHL before the release of their first album.

if baltimore is such a great crowd . . . why can't a single band sell out a single show at a single venue?

can i have your next baby?
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Post by: killsaly on April 05, 2012, 10:17:15 am
Quantity doesnt equal quality.  A sold out dc show with a crowd that wont shut up at a show like Real Estate would be 100 times worse than a half full non talking (at least during sets) baltimore crowd.  Crowd quality depends most on WHO is there, not how many people.  Though dc can have good crowds, just depends on show/venue, same as Baltimore.  DC crowds can either be people truly into music who want to support bands and listen to great music, OR (big ass or) people who just wanted to have a place to go so they can talk about their lives in public.  Baltimore ones seem to me to be way more about the music. Baltimore shows are usually IMHO better than DC ones and 99 percent of the time, if I can choose between the cities to see a band, Baltimore wins. Good thing I live between the two, so i can make that choice.  Walk, have you ever/do you ever, go to Baltimore shows?
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Post by: hutch on April 05, 2012, 10:21:17 am
DC crowds suck... everyone knows it: the crowd and the bands.


Doesn't mean you don't get the very occasional good DC crowd.
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Post by: Jaguar on April 05, 2012, 10:21:25 am
quality = quantity

a show where five people come  = shitty crowd

a sold out show where five thousand people come = good crowd

a show where five people show and are awesome as five people = still, a shitty crowd

Oh, Hell no!!!

I'll take a small room with only 30 people and a great band any day. I hate crowds and find a packed room only annoys and interferes with my enjoyment of the show. Sure, not a money maker; but, as a fan, I'm only there for the show. Regarding the 9:30, I tend to prefer the room about 3/4s full with, of course, a great band. Not Seth's favorite, but he has to look at the bottom line.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 05, 2012, 10:24:50 am
go to baltimore shows all the time.  lacks the "ummpth" of dc.  they are in the shadow of the district . . . and they know it.  and their harbor stinks.

and i'll take a room full of people yelling and screaming and being . . . humans having fun, instead of a sad sea of empty floor full of "diehards".

party on.
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Post by: Jaguar on April 05, 2012, 10:31:32 am
Quantity doesnt equal quality.  A sold out dc show with a crowd that wont shut up at a show like Real Estate would be 100 times worse than a half full non talking (at least during sets) baltimore crowd.  Crowd quality depends most on WHO is there, not how many people.  Though dc can have good crowds, just depends on show/venue, same as Baltimore.  DC crowds can either be people truly into music who want to support bands and listen to great music, OR (big ass or) people who just wanted to have a place to go so they can talk about their lives in public.  Baltimore ones seem to me to be way more about the music. Baltimore shows are usually IMHO better than DC ones and 99 percent of the time, if I can choose between the cities to see a band, Baltimore wins. Good thing I live between the two, so i can make that choice.  Walk, have you ever/do you ever, go to Baltimore shows?

All of this. I've experienced both good and bad crowds in both areas. A lot of it depends on the specific fans that either that band or venue tends to draw in.

Probably the most respectful audience I've ever witnessed was for Hammock, Stars Of The Lid & Christopher Willet which was at Iota. Basically, you could call that a DC crowd. You could have heard a pin drop at any point of that show. It was like God hand picked each person because they knew how to behave during a performance.

Both crowds at the Lyric in Baltimore for Pink Floyd way back in the early '70s were very well behaved but I suspect it helped that they were stoned and seated. This was just before all of the Bic flicking 'Rock 'n Roll!' burnout type ever heard of them and those type were always annoying wherever they were.
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Post by: Yada on April 05, 2012, 10:37:00 am
I saw Real Estate at the Black Cat in January and it was awesome... not sold out... and they even came on stage late due to the Giants game.

A tad short, but I love that band.
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Post by: K8teebug on April 05, 2012, 10:43:37 am
DC crowds suck... everyone knows it: the crowd and the bands.


Doesn't mean you don't get the very occasional good DC crowd.

Baltimore is just nicer than DC.  More people dance.  People don't have the attitude.  Having gone to probably an equal number of Baltimore and DC shows, I'll take Baltimore most days.

B'more girl here. Born and raised :)
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Post by: Yada on April 05, 2012, 11:22:20 am
DC crowds suck... everyone knows it: the crowd and the bands.


Doesn't mean you don't get the very occasional good DC crowd.

Baltimore is just nicer than DC.  More people dance.  People don't have the attitude.  Having gone to probably an equal number of Baltimore and DC shows, I'll take Baltimore most days.

B'more girl here. Born and raised :)

Bawlmore'd
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 05, 2012, 11:38:24 am
Given the choice between a show at, say, the Ottobar vs the same show at a comparable venue in DC (RnR?) I'll choose the Bmore show every time.  And I live closer to DC.

930 >>>>> RHL live, tho.  Not even close.
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Post by: hutch on April 05, 2012, 01:15:15 pm
Ottobar is great!


The thing about Baltimore you just don't get the attitude you get in DC....everything costs less... people are less pretentious.. whats not to like?


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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 05, 2012, 02:48:46 pm
I was at that SoTL/Christopher Willits/Hammock gig!

Great crowd, yes but I still say Iota was the wrong place.
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Post by: sweetcell on April 05, 2012, 03:15:19 pm
Probably the most respectful audience I've ever witnessed was for Hammock, Stars Of The Lid & Christopher Willet which was at Iota.

the crowd at the Godspeed! show at the club last year was down-right reverent.
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Post by: killsaly on April 05, 2012, 03:29:56 pm
Bright Eyes on tour for Four Winds at the 930 Club was probably the most quiet I had ever seen a DC crowd. 
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 05, 2012, 04:06:43 pm
^Except for one girl who between songs kept saying "Make me cry!" The first couple times were funny but it quickly got annoying.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on April 05, 2012, 04:28:21 pm
^ I knew you were once a Bright Eyes fan you little bitch
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Post by: Yada on April 05, 2012, 04:52:19 pm
^ I knew you were once a Bright Eyes fan you little bitch

lolz.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 05, 2012, 05:01:51 pm
hahahahaha

He's alright.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 07, 2012, 06:57:27 am
Did anyone else make it to Artisphere last night? The Frankie Rose set was amazing, beautiful, entrancing. I was unsure how well the new material would sound live since on record, it sounds very studio-ish if that makes sense but she and her band pulled it off perfectly. Shame there were not more people there to witness it. Stevie Jackson played a very good set of solo and B&S stuff mostly acoustic and by himself but had Honey Bunch join him on the last four songs of his set. Honey Bunch were pretty good but got swallowed up by the boomy sound of that room. Dot Dash were alright but not all that worth writing home about. The Pines (Pam Berry and an English dude named Joe whose last name on which I am blanking) played a pretty set of acoustic ballads to start the night.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 07, 2012, 08:05:41 am
I ended up being a little disappointed in Budos Band / Charles Bradley show....

Not the biggest fan of the Soul Screamer type of singer, so it was just an solid bordering on average set. Bradley's had a crack band behind him and the moves (lots of pelvis trusting/arms in the air like an eagle/James brown splits), the set was poorly paced with a mid set outfit change ruined the momentum.

Not quite sure what was up with the Budos Band as they were either totally in their groove or dull.  I thought would be more of a hard hitting and fiery then they were.   Maybe it was because it was first night of the tour, or the new material they were road testing, or a poor sound mix.  But at times they were just sloppy and the opening was particularly tedious.  But once that groove kicked in they were on fire for several songs.  They are probably great to see as a opener with a tight 45 minute set.  As a co-headliner they seem to want to drag things out.. They also need a Hammond B3 stat :)
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 08, 2012, 11:56:24 am
sorry . . . have to post this

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/07/tourist-beaten-robbed-baltimore-caught-camera-video_n_1409900.html

yeah . . . lets all go to baltimore.

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Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 08, 2012, 01:42:41 pm
That sucks.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 08, 2012, 02:15:00 pm
it is making the normal rounds in the media . . . but most are saying it really hurts the town's image, which is sad.  i like some things about the town and have friends that live there that love it.  there are some incredible restaurants in all parts of town, and i have awesome memories of shows and clubs.  i just think the town way pales in comparison to the district in entertainment.   
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Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 08, 2012, 05:07:24 pm
Baltimore is just nicer than DC....People don't have the attitude.

I like Bmore, but that's a joke, right?
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Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 08, 2012, 05:09:07 pm
Did anyone else make it to Artisphere last night? The Frankie Rose set was amazing, beautiful, entrancing. I was unsure how well the new material would sound live since on record, it sounds very studio-ish if that makes sense but she and her band pulled it off perfectly. Shame there were not more people there to witness it. Stevie Jackson played a very good set of solo and B&S stuff mostly acoustic and by himself but had Honey Bunch join him on the last four songs of his set. Honey Bunch were pretty good but got swallowed up by the boomy sound of that room. Dot Dash were alright but not all that worth writing home about. The Pines (Pam Berry and an English dude named Joe whose last name on which I am blanking) played a pretty set of acoustic ballads to start the night.

I would have gone to this if it wasn't the same night as Plants and Animals. What B&S songs did Stevie play?
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 09, 2012, 01:07:41 am
"Step Into My Office," "The Wrong Girl," "To Be Myself Completely" and "Chickfactor" for sure. There might have been one or two more that I am blanking on. He did a few solo tracks and I think there was a cover or two I could not place in there somewhere.

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Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 09, 2012, 04:40:09 pm
"Step Into My Office," "The Wrong Girl," "To Be Myself Completely" and "Chickfactor" for sure. There might have been one or two more that I am blanking on. He did a few solo tracks and I think there was a cover or two I could not place in there somewhere.



OMG but no Seymour Stein?
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Post by: hutch on April 09, 2012, 05:22:26 pm
ughh.. he really did write all the worst Belle and Sebastian songs...
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Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 09, 2012, 08:20:12 pm
ughh.. he really did write all the worst Belle and Sebastian songs...

Are you fucking kidding? Seymour Stein is one of their BEST. I'm Not Living in the Real World is damn good too.
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Post by: hutch on April 09, 2012, 09:08:02 pm
ughh.. he really did write all the worst Belle and Sebastian songs...

Are you fucking kidding? Seymour Stein is one of their BEST. I'm Not Living in the Real World is damn good too.

no i am not FUCKING kidding.. stuart murdoch is the genius.. the rest are nothing special.. as murdoch let the others contribute more the band began to suck.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 10, 2012, 06:54:29 am
No Seymour Stein.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 10, 2012, 11:35:18 am
Black Tambourine sounded great with the exception of a few rough moments. Lorelei get better with age. Lilys would have been way better with a full band. Similar to the acoustic set he opened for MBV with in Richmond. Fan Modine were alright but suffered from the same bad acoustics issue as Honey Bunch did the prior night. LD was a last minute surprise guest. He and some of the members of other bands playing that night did some Crash and JAMC covers as well as another cover I am forgetting.


Screaming Females were amazing. Would not be surprised to see them headlining the club in a year or two. IMO, they were more memorable than the Dead Weather and Arctic Monkeys when they opened for them at the Club in 2009 and have only improved since.

Van Dyke Parks at Millennium Stage was a good time. His playing is as on point as ever and his voice is holding up well. Good amount of smart and funny banter throughout the show.

Magnetic Fields: see MF thread.
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Post by: hutch on April 10, 2012, 12:35:27 pm
IMO, they were more memorable than the Dead Weather and Arctic Monkeys when they opened for them at the Club in 2009 and have only improved since.




ha ha.. the opinion of someone who hates Jack White...
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Post by: hutch on April 11, 2012, 12:53:25 am
RNR Hotel blows for music...horrible.. I have avoided the place all these years and doubt I'll go again for music...the upstairs is fine but the live music room sucks.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 11, 2012, 01:07:55 am
Welcome to 2007?


How does Jack White Kool-Aid taste?
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 11, 2012, 08:28:34 am
Welcome to 2007?


How does Jack White Kool-Aid taste?


the same as some of the shit you go see on a daily basis.  it all tastes the same.
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Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2012, 09:08:25 am
on the topic of rnr... Saw White Denim last night.  real good set, good crowd, AMAZING venue. 

okay... just kidding about the venue, but it wasn't terrible.  and the roof deck addition is nice. 
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Post by: hutch on April 11, 2012, 09:11:55 am
on the topic of rnr... Saw White Denim last night.  real good set, good crowd, AMAZING venue. 

okay... just kidding about the venue, but it wasn't terrible.  and the roof deck addition is nice. 

the sound was good.. but the narrow rectangular box does not work.. you can't move basically..

they could really improve the place if they made the floor incline upwards (if that makes sense) and raised the stage...
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Post by: hutch on April 11, 2012, 09:14:39 am
Welcome to 2007?


How does Jack White Kool-Aid taste?


great white stripes show at the patriot center in 2007!
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Post by: Yada on April 11, 2012, 09:21:23 am
on the topic of rnr... Saw White Denim last night.  real good set, good crowd, AMAZING venue. 

okay... just kidding about the venue, but it wasn't terrible.  and the roof deck addition is nice. 

I wish I had the ambition to hit up shows during the week...
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Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2012, 09:36:57 am
on the topic of rnr... Saw White Denim last night.  real good set, good crowd, AMAZING venue. 

okay... just kidding about the venue, but it wasn't terrible.  and the roof deck addition is nice. 

the sound was good.. but the narrow rectangular box does not work.. you can't move basically..

they could really improve the place if they made the floor incline upwards (if that makes sense) and raised the stage...

middle east does this in boston.  site lines are great, and agree the narrow room doesn't work, and they pack it in.

I wish I had the ambition to hit up shows during the week...

i view it as a nice offset to the shitty 40-hr work week. 


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Post by: James Ford on April 11, 2012, 11:56:18 am
Isn't that what my couch is for?  :D





I wish I had the ambition to hit up shows during the week...

i view it as a nice offset to the shitty 40-hr work week. 



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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 11, 2012, 12:23:03 pm
Welcome to 2007?


How does Jack White Kool-Aid taste?


great white stripes show at the patriot center in 2007!
Very awesome show, I have a poor recording of it on my desktop. Super happy, we were right up front between Meg and Jack.
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Post by: hutch on April 11, 2012, 12:50:37 pm
Welcome to 2007?


How does Jack White Kool-Aid taste?


great white stripes show at the patriot center in 2007!
Very awesome show, I have a poor recording of it on my desktop. Super happy, we were right up front between Meg and Jack.


yeah i was on floor also.. just bummed i didn't take a digital camera...i think it was close to their final show..
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Post by: eltee on April 12, 2012, 12:34:10 pm
Nada Surf was good as always - not sure why more boardies and locals don't go ...their music is similar to other music people are yammering about...Sound was muddy with too much bass until mid-show when it was corrected. Then vocals and guitars were crisp (azag terminology), they sounded great as always. Nice guys too, with good stage presence.
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Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 12, 2012, 07:23:16 pm
^^^ I always see Nada Surf when they come to town. They were on FIRE. They played Concrete Bed and Whose Authority in about 90 seconds flat each. Hyperspace is easily their best live song and all the new album songs are good live, too, especially Clear Eye Clouded Mind, Teenage Dream and When I Was Young.

I used to think "I can't believe these guys aren't more popular," but I don't care anymore. It was SO refreshing to be able to attend a show at 9:30 that was not packed to the FUCKING GILLS and was only 3/4. Great, great night.
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Post by: eltee on April 13, 2012, 12:49:14 am
Awesome. Makes me want to go to the 7/5 RHL show, but unsure about the trek to B'more on a weeknight. Loved that it wasn't crowded too, everyone was there to enjoy their music which is the right amount of indie, rock and grit. Those guys are seasoned players too, and great songwriters.
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Post by: eltee on April 13, 2012, 12:54:59 am
RNR Hotel blows for music...horrible.. I have avoided the place all these years and doubt I'll go again for music...the upstairs is fine but the live music room sucks.
I really want another venue to scoop in and grab Great Lake Swimmers from playing there. I would go, but all you have said about this place, just can't do it.
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Post by: K8teebug on April 13, 2012, 08:24:32 am
RNR Hotel blows for music...horrible.. I have avoided the place all these years and doubt I'll go again for music...the upstairs is fine but the live music room sucks.
I really want another venue to scoop in and grab Great Lake Swimmers from playing there. I would go, but all you have said about this place, just can't do it.
That place is HORRIBLE.  Will never go there again.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 13, 2012, 08:37:09 am
I am going to The Clean but only because it is The Clean.
One of maybe five bands that would get me there.
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Post by: eltee on April 14, 2012, 02:49:50 pm
How was Wild Flag? I was sorry I missed it. Then someone said they heard it was ...boring?
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 14, 2012, 03:22:16 pm
That someone could not have been more wrong.

It was the best of the three DC shows.

1982791297 different kinds of awesome!
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Post by: eltee on April 14, 2012, 06:30:06 pm
I knew that didn't sound right and questioned what they heard. Argh, is all I can say. They seem so fun. Well, I can only hope they'll come back in the fall.
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Post by: killsaly on April 15, 2012, 11:16:45 am
Hey az how was the Soft House show?
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 15, 2012, 11:22:54 am
Really good. Afternoon Penis was kind of boring but played for like 15 minutes. Lexie MTN and some other girl played a nice meditative drony set that I was digging. 200 Years was pretty much what you would expect if you had heard the album. Folky, pretty, atmospheric. Horse Lords surprised me. I had no idea about what to expect and they ended up being the highlight of the night. Essentially what every jamband should aspire to be.


It was a little odd being at a house show and not knowing anyone but the friend I came with
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 16, 2012, 07:25:23 am
Oops. This should go in the "This Week Rollcall" thread.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 16, 2012, 10:01:46 am
I really want another venue to scoop in and grab Great Lake Swimmers from playing there. I would go, but all you have said about this place, just can't do it.

I feel the same way about Father John Misty.  But I think I may go.
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Post by: Yada on May 06, 2012, 01:37:07 pm
Anyone check out John Legend/Sharon Jones performing What's Going on ?
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Post by: Stillwater on May 06, 2012, 02:15:09 pm
I really wish The Roots didn't drop out of that.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on May 17, 2012, 11:16:36 pm
Cardinal set was really good with some quality funny Richard banter. Nice mix of old and new material. The new album is pretty good but seems to have slipped passed most radars.

Cigarette get more impressive each time I see them. There is a band I thought would be getting more buzz around these parts by now. Fans of Besnard Lakes and Grizzly Bear would find a lot to like in them, I think.

KRE were also solid. Cool to hear them play fully formed songs. Well not fully formed but more concrete pieces than usual.

The show also had a decent draw for Velvet on a Tuesday.

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Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 19, 2012, 09:54:56 am
i will now spend the rest of the weekend flogging myself for not paying attention to concert listing.. That first Cardinal record is one of my all time favorite records. I  thought they never toured, let alone released a new record. 

FLOG FLOG FLOG FLOG...
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Post by: azaghal1981 on May 19, 2012, 10:48:58 am
Eric Matthews was not there if that makes you feel better.
The strings and horns were all sampled which took away a little but I knew that going in. It was still a fantastic way to spend $12.

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Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 19, 2012, 11:08:37 am
OK that does sound a bit odd, but i've been sleeping on far to many shows of late... i suppose i could blame my advanced age...
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Post by: Justin Tonation on May 19, 2012, 02:09:25 pm
OK that does sound a bit odd, but i've been sleeping on far to many shows of late... i suppose i could blame my advanced age...

Matthews is loath to touring. So pay money for his records, kiddies.
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Post by: sweetcell on May 19, 2012, 09:40:54 pm
OK that does sound a bit odd, but i've been sleeping on far to many shows of late... i suppose i could blame my advanced age...

... or blame all the kids on your lawn, impeding your ability to leave the house... ;D
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Post by: azaghal1981 on May 20, 2012, 04:45:05 pm
Anyone see The Make Up last night?
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Post by: Darth Ed on May 21, 2012, 07:32:31 pm
Anyone see The Make Up last night?

No, I saw Ms. Director at the Black Cat Backstage instead. Good stuff!
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Post by: azaghal1981 on May 21, 2012, 07:43:58 pm
The make up show was on Saturday.
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Post by: killsaly on May 22, 2012, 11:01:09 am
The Polyphonic Spree did not disappoint.  What a fun time.

I tried to keep an eye out for cat shirts, but didnt see any. 
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 22, 2012, 12:35:12 pm
The Polyphonic Spree did not disappoint.  What a fun time.

I tried to keep an eye out for cat shirts, but didnt see any. 

show sold out before i could go.  plus i worked like 16 hours on sat and sun.  there was no way i had the energy to go.  hope it was awesome . . . though somehow i think the band has waned.
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Post by: Driveway on May 22, 2012, 12:39:01 pm
The Spree was great despite horrible sound.  I think it was turned up too loud for the boomy venue.  It was a treat to hear King.  I hope they come back soon!
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Post by: hutch on May 22, 2012, 12:48:14 pm
The Spree was great despite horrible sound.  I think it was turned up too loud for the boomy venue.  It was a treat to hear King.  I hope they come back soon!


Maybe U Street Hall?
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 22, 2012, 12:50:56 pm
Saw my first show at RnR hotel this past weekend. Not nearly as awful as I feared.

Not great. Not awful. Ottobar is infinitely better.
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Post by: killsaly on May 22, 2012, 01:53:06 pm
The Spree was great despite horrible sound.  I think it was turned up too loud for the boomy venue.  It was a treat to hear King.  I hope they come back soon!
Where were you located?  I was in the back near the door by the merch, and it sounded great.  my only gripe, sound wise, was the guitar was too low (especially on the guitar heavy Fragile Army tracks) and the chorus/background singers were too low.  I thought the sound was good, other than those two small complaints.  I wouldn't call it horrible, but that's just me. As for coming back soon, it was like 5 years between Fragile Army tour show at 930 and last night, but you never know.  I am assuming they will tour for their next album release.
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Post by: eltee on May 22, 2012, 02:06:09 pm
The Spree was great despite horrible sound.  I think it was turned up too loud for the boomy venue.  It was a treat to hear King.  I hope they come back soon!


Maybe U Street Hall?
My ears would blow if I heard them in that room. 930 is always fun and great sound for them.
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Post by: hutch on May 22, 2012, 02:23:07 pm
The Spree was great despite horrible sound.  I think it was turned up too loud for the boomy venue.  It was a treat to hear King.  I hope they come back soon!


Maybe U Street Hall?
My ears would blow if I heard them in that room. 930 is always fun and great sound for them.


what about Iota in Arlington? Seems they might be able to  fill that, or is that a stretch for them now?
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Post by: Driveway on May 22, 2012, 02:43:34 pm
The Spree was great despite horrible sound.  I think it was turned up too loud for the boomy venue.  It was a treat to hear King.  I hope they come back soon!
Where were you located?  I was in the back near the door by the merch, and it sounded great.  my only gripe, sound wise, was the guitar was too low (especially on the guitar heavy Fragile Army tracks) and the chorus/background singers were too low.  I thought the sound was good, other than those two small complaints.  I wouldn't call it horrible, but that's just me. As for coming back soon, it was like 5 years between Fragile Army tour show at 930 and last night, but you never know.  I am assuming they will tour for their next album release.

Left hand side a little more than half way back, by the side door.
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Post by: eltee on May 22, 2012, 03:14:39 pm
The Spree was great despite horrible sound.  I think it was turned up too loud for the boomy venue.  It was a treat to hear King.  I hope they come back soon!


Maybe U Street Hall?
My ears would blow if I heard them in that room. 930 is always fun and great sound for them.


what about Iota in Arlington? Seems they might be able to  fill that, or is that a stretch for them now?
Are we referring to the same - Poly Spree? Iota's capacity is 160 or less. Did they not have a good showing at 6&I? Would have thought it was a great venue for them, too bad the sound didn't deliver.
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Post by: hutch on May 23, 2012, 10:13:15 am
saw Brad last night at the Red Palace.. I like the place..


weird seeing Stone Gossard in such a small place.. very low key show...must have been 100 people there.. enjoyed their show.. apparently its a 3 date tour.

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Post by: killsaly on May 23, 2012, 10:28:18 am
Are we referring to the same - Poly Spree? Iota's capacity is 160 or less. Did they not have a good showing at 6&I? Would have thought it was a great venue for them, too bad the sound didn't deliver.
I thought the Sixth and I show was sold out.
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Post by: K8teebug on May 23, 2012, 02:00:07 pm
saw Brad last night at the Red Palace.. I like the place..


weird seeing Stone Gossard in such a small place.. very low key show...must have been 100 people there.. enjoyed their show.. apparently its a 3 date tour.


It would be weird seeing him there!  I really love that venue.
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Post by: atomicfront on May 24, 2012, 12:30:00 am
The Polyphonic Spree did not disappoint.  What a fun time.

I tried to keep an eye out for cat shirts, but didnt see any. 

Yeah it was an awesome show.
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Post by: Yada on May 24, 2012, 09:45:18 am
Rumor has it the Afghan Whigs show last night was outrageous.
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Post by: serpent boy on May 25, 2012, 12:56:40 am
St. Vincent rocked The National tonight. I'd never seen her live before and I'm glad I finally did. She's electric live. I almost wish she'd extend her sets by a few songs.
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Post by: yohansen5b on May 25, 2012, 07:53:02 am
St. Vincent rocked The National tonight. I'd never seen her live before and I'm glad I finally did. She's electric live. I almost wish she'd extend her sets by a few songs.

she's playing next week at a very, very small venue here in Miami.  i'm 99% sure the show won't sell out. in fact, i think they've sold less than 200 tickets (which boggles the mind).  i'm really really looking forward to seeing her.
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Post by: yohansen5b on May 31, 2012, 08:09:44 am
St. Vincent rocked The National tonight. I'd never seen her live before and I'm glad I finally did. She's electric live. I almost wish she'd extend her sets by a few songs.

she's playing next week at a very, very small venue here in Miami.  i'm 99% sure the show won't sell out. in fact, i think they've sold less than 200 tickets (which boggles the mind).  i'm really really looking forward to seeing her.

Indie rock, Miami style. (http://twitter.com/thestagemiami/status/208150903725883392)
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Post by: Yada on June 21, 2012, 08:49:18 am
Anyone check out Modest Mouse last night?
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Post by: lagas on June 27, 2012, 10:40:55 pm
went to see van der graaf generator tonight at the howard theatre. the band was great, as always, but i just can't get over how unprofessional and unpleasant the staff there was. the freaking bartenders were talking very loudly the whole damn show, and at some point the waiters were also discussing their social life just when the songs were extremely soft and quiet. also, there were reminders in every table that the minimum consumption was $10...I paid the ticket to be there!, why are you charging me 10 extra bucks if I want to sit down!

then, almost at the end of the show,  peter hammill said it was an honor for the band to play there because of the history of the place, but i thought to myself, how sad it was that the staff didn't have the minimum respect for the music, the band, the patrons or the place they work for.

i won't come back there again, that's for sure.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on June 27, 2012, 10:51:31 pm
Wow that's a shame. I thought about hitting that show up and probably should have due to it being such a rarity and the fact that I've never seen them. I hate the minimum consumption thing and had no clue that they did that. Twins also do that and that is the biggest reason why I will never be back there.
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Post by: hutch on June 27, 2012, 10:52:16 pm
went to see van der graaf generator tonight at the howard theatre. the band was great, as always, but i just can't get over how unprofessional and unpleasant the staff there was. the freaking bartenders were talking very loudly the whole damn show, and at some point the waiters were also discussing their social life just when the songs were extremely soft and quiet. also, there were reminders in every table that the minimum consumption was $10...I paid the ticket to be there!, why are you charging me 10 extra bucks if I want to sit down!

then, almost at the end of the show,  peter hammill said it was an honor for the band to play there because of the history of the place, but i thought to myself, how sad it was that the staff didn't have the minimum respect for the music, the band, the patrons or the place they work for.

i won't come back there again, that's for sure.


I would email the venue and let them know your thoughts so they can improve..
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Post by: lagas on July 06, 2012, 10:16:24 am
who else went to the men last night, I was surprised they only played a 40 min set, unless they came back later after I left...

it was good though, but really short...
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Post by: lagas on July 13, 2012, 07:39:06 am
For the record, Roger Waters' show last night was pretty good
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Post by: Yada on July 13, 2012, 08:45:09 am
For the record, Roger Waters' show last night was pretty good

It was fucking incredible...So glad I pulled the trigger on tickets. Amazing.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 13, 2012, 09:39:30 am
not as good as last time . . . you could tell. 
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Post by: Yada on July 13, 2012, 09:45:35 am
not as good as last time . . . you could tell. 

lolwalkie.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on July 13, 2012, 09:53:41 am
don't think it's a show you wanna see twice.

not as good as last time . . . you could tell. 
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 13, 2012, 09:59:18 am
the guy beside me flipped the fuck out on the people smoking pot all around us.  i thought that was fun.  ge smith in the band was neat.

yeah . . . i realized half way through; the wall is a one time show.  it was pretty awesome that it seemed that roger was being blown away from emotion at the end with the endless applause he received.  you can tell, the man has finally reached some peace in his life.

and oh my . . . there was this one security guy in the middle of the floor.  one word:  yum.
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Post by: Mr.Whippy on July 13, 2012, 12:38:18 pm
I really enjoyed seeing The Wall for a second time last night.  Partly due to having a different perspective (in lower level seats last night vs. very close on floor the first time).

Funniest part of the evening for me was seeing someone say "This is amazing" while watching it through their phone.
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Post by: Yada on July 13, 2012, 01:21:13 pm
I really enjoyed seeing The Wall for a second time last night.  Partly due to having a different perspective (in lower level seats last night vs. very close on floor the first time).

Funniest part of the evening for me was seeing someone say "This is amazing" while watching it through their phone.

Seriously, the amount of phones and picture takers are just ridiculous... Some old balls beside me literally took pictures of nothing but a blurry stage all night long, kind of blew my mind. He's probably pretty disapointed today when he uploaded his pics to his FB page and it's nothing but a white and red blur.

That is one show where being further away is actually better than being up close. Also, the sound was amazing... best sound I've heard in the Verizon Center.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on July 13, 2012, 01:31:20 pm
I agree with this...esp at 400 level first few rows center....and way cheaper :)


That is one show where being further away is actually better than being up close. Also, the sound was amazing... best sound I've heard in the Verizon Center.
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Post by: Yada on July 13, 2012, 01:50:56 pm
I agree with this...esp at 400 level first few rows center....and way cheaper :)


That is one show where being further away is actually better than being up close. Also, the sound was amazing... best sound I've heard in the Verizon Center.

Yup! I had front row in the 400 level and it couldn't have been better!
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Post by: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam fan on July 13, 2012, 01:52:07 pm
I was up close and blown away :)

(http://www.flickr.com/photos/52422616@N06/7563106910/in/photostream)
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 13, 2012, 09:02:56 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/315375_3861327104831_2021016065_n.jpg)

the wall
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 13, 2012, 09:11:56 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/552632_3861333504991_462051361_n.jpg)

coldplay
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Post by: mekmad on July 13, 2012, 10:02:12 pm
I really enjoyed seeing The Wall for a second time last night.  Partly due to having a different perspective (in lower level seats last night vs. very close on floor the first time).

Funniest part of the evening for me was seeing someone say "This is amazing" while watching it through their phone.

Seriously, the amount of phones and picture takers are just ridiculous... Some old balls beside me literally took pictures of nothing but a blurry stage all night long, kind of blew my mind. He's probably pretty disapointed today when he uploaded his pics to his FB page and it's nothing but a white and red blur.

That is one show where being further away is actually better than being up close. Also, the sound was amazing... best sound I've heard in the Verizon Center.

There was a guy with a camcorder a few rows in front of me, I was surprised security didn't say anything.  I doubt it turned out that great, the guy seemed wobbly with the camera.
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Post by: sauce07 on July 14, 2012, 12:19:28 pm
the guy beside me flipped the fuck out on the people smoking pot all around us.  i thought that was fun.  ge smith in the band was neat.

yeah . . . i realized half way through; the wall is a one time show.  it was pretty awesome that it seemed that roger was being blown away from emotion at the end with the endless applause he received.  you can tell, the man has finally reached some peace in his life.

and oh my . . . there was this one security guy in the middle of the floor.  one word:  yum.

We had cops all over the rear of the 200 section with flashlights looking for people smoking. A tad bit over the top and very distracting.
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Post by: Unsanity on July 17, 2012, 05:43:39 am
Refused was done playing the Fillmore by 10:20pm. There was word of a secret show at the DC9 at midnight. Grabbed some Ben's Chili Bowl then went over to DC9. There was a big crowd in there, some with Refused shirts on so I was pretty psyched that was gonna go down. But once we were in the staff said the band decided not to come at the last minute. Bummer.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on July 17, 2012, 06:28:06 am
They did a similar thing in NYC not long ago but showed up.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 17, 2012, 08:27:55 am
did not hear that.....not sure what i would have done had i known about it.  dc9 would have been awfully tempting.

was pretty happy to be done by 10:20 tho.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 17, 2012, 08:30:08 am
 >:(

double post
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Post by: serpent boy on July 21, 2012, 01:55:28 pm
The Killers were highly enjoyable at The National last night. Loved the set. The new songs translated well live. They're much better suited for an arena than a club, but I loved being 10 rows from the band.

Setlist:
Somebody Told Me
Smile Like You Mean It
Spaceman
Losing Touch
Runaways
Miss Atomic Bomb
For Reasons Unknown
Bling (Confession of a King)
Shadowplay
(Joy Division cover)
Human
A Dustland Fairytale
Read My Mind
Mr. Brightside
All These Things That I've Done
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Here On Out
Jenny Was a Friend of Mine
When You Were Young
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Post by: RatBastard on July 22, 2012, 02:15:46 pm
Good time at the club last night.  JJ and American Aquarium put on great shows.
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Post by: hutch on July 22, 2012, 03:05:51 pm
Good time at the club last night.  JJ and American Aquarium put on great shows.


Were you able to position your wheelchair in a good spot?
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Post by: RatBastard on July 22, 2012, 08:39:12 pm
Oh man a dagger in my back! :)
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Post by: James Ford on July 23, 2012, 07:54:58 am
You paid money to see Justin Jones? hahahahaha

Good time at the club last night.  JJ and American Aquarium put on great shows.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 23, 2012, 10:23:59 am
I don't get it.  He isn't suppoed to charge admission to his shows?  The nerve!
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Post by: RatBastard on July 24, 2012, 01:51:10 am
You paid money to see Justin Jones? hahahahaha

Good time at the club last night.  JJ and American Aquarium put on great shows.

I have no problem what-so-ever paying a musician for their work.  Sadly, too many people think it is OK to steal music these days as they try to cover it up as something else by using terms like sharing.
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Post by: killsaly on July 27, 2012, 10:02:10 pm
A Place to Bury Strangers were great at Rock and Roll Hotel.  Even with my earplugs in, being up front was almost too much.   Plenty of people around me didnt have any. 
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Post by: James Ford on August 19, 2012, 12:23:21 am
Between the potheads polluting it with dope smell and the blockheads punching it with their manly fists, the air really took a beating at the My Morning Jacket show tonight.

And someone needs to tell the lead singer of Band of Horses that bringing his two under-3 daughters onstage (for the third or fourth time of the night) at 10:45pm is kind of douchey. They should be home sleeping.
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Post by: jeffml on August 19, 2012, 01:05:46 am
Other than that...great MMJ show!!!
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Post by: James Ford on August 19, 2012, 09:10:50 am
yep

Other than that...great MMJ show!!!
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 19, 2012, 09:29:27 am
surest way to tell you are old.

bitch about people smoking pot.

as you have another beer.
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Post by: Jaguar on August 19, 2012, 10:07:40 am
surest way to tell you are old.

bitch about people smoking pot.

as you have another beer.

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Post by: atomicfront on August 19, 2012, 01:04:14 pm
Went to MMJ/Band of horses show last night at MPP.  I would say Band of Horses was stellar as usual.  Great songs, great live band.  Cool that he brought his daughters on stage.

This is the third time I saw MMJ.  The first time they did an hour set at Lolla with an ochestra and they were actually pretty good.  I saw them a couple of years ago at MPP and they were sort of boring.  Today I was pretty close and they were incredible boring.  I only lasted an hour.  Geez just play the songs.  Does every song have to have five minutes of needless guitar solos. 

I award MMJ the most boring live band award. Sort of the opposite of Polyphonic Spree who are just Ok on record but amazing live.  MMJ's album "Z" is top notch and the last album wasn't that bad. But boy they are boring live.  Also, I found the crowd to be very unattractive.   Least attractive fan base as well.  I liked the pinball machines at MPP when was that added?
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Post by: jeffml on August 19, 2012, 03:37:41 pm
I enjoy Band of Horses, but to say that MMJ live Is boring compared to BOH leads me to believe that you must  be from another planet, just completely delusional or just 'avin a laff.

Went to MMJ/Band of horses show last night at MPP.  I would say Band of Horses was stellar as usual.  Great songs, great live band.  Cool that he brought his daughters on stage.

This is the third time I saw MMJ.  The first time they did an hour set at Lolla with an ochestra and they were actually pretty good.  I saw them a couple of years ago at MPP and they were sort of boring.  Today I was pretty close and they were incredible boring.  I only lasted an hour.  Geez just play the songs.  Does every song have to have five minutes of needless guitar solos. 

I award MMJ the most boring live band award. Sort of the opposite of Polyphonic Spree who are just Ok on record but amazing live.  MMJ's album "Z" is top notch and the last album wasn't that bad. But boy they are boring live.  Also, I found the crowd to be very unattractive.   Least attractive fan base as well.  I liked the pinball machines at MPP when was that added?
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 19, 2012, 03:43:25 pm
i find the pinball machines at a venue where you pay money to see a concert . . . a sad testament to said concert.
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Post by: James Ford on August 19, 2012, 05:20:58 pm
BOH were arguably more concise and to the point with their songs. If you're more into four minute pop songs and not at all open to extended jammy versions of songs, I can see how MMJ live wouldn't be your thing.


I enjoy Band of Horses, but to say that MMJ live Is boring compared to BOH leads me to believe that you must  be from another planet, just completely delusional or just 'avin a laff.

Went to MMJ/Band of horses show last night at MPP.  I would say Band of Horses was stellar as usual.  Great songs, great live band.  Cool that he brought his daughters on stage.

This is the third time I saw MMJ.  The first time they did an hour set at Lolla with an ochestra and they were actually pretty good.  I saw them a couple of years ago at MPP and they were sort of boring.  Today I was pretty close and they were incredible boring.  I only lasted an hour.  Geez just play the songs.  Does every song have to have five minutes of needless guitar solos. 

I award MMJ the most boring live band award. Sort of the opposite of Polyphonic Spree who are just Ok on record but amazing live.  MMJ's album "Z" is top notch and the last album wasn't that bad. But boy they are boring live.  Also, I found the crowd to be very unattractive.   Least attractive fan base as well.  I liked the pinball machines at MPP when was that added?
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Post by: jeffml on August 19, 2012, 06:15:08 pm
Agree...but it was his 3rd MMJ show, so he should've known what to expect. 

BOH were arguably more concise and to the point with their songs. If you're more into four minute pop songs and not at all open to extended jammy versions of songs, I can see how MMJ live wouldn't be your thing.


I enjoy Band of Horses, but to say that MMJ live Is boring compared to BOH leads me to believe that you must  be from another planet, just completely delusional or just 'avin a laff.

Went to MMJ/Band of horses show last night at MPP.  I would say Band of Horses was stellar as usual.  Great songs, great live band.  Cool that he brought his daughters on stage.

This is the third time I saw MMJ.  The first time they did an hour set at Lolla with an ochestra and they were actually pretty good.  I saw them a couple of years ago at MPP and they were sort of boring.  Today I was pretty close and they were incredible boring.  I only lasted an hour.  Geez just play the songs.  Does every song have to have five minutes of needless guitar solos. 

I award MMJ the most boring live band award. Sort of the opposite of Polyphonic Spree who are just Ok on record but amazing live.  MMJ's album "Z" is top notch and the last album wasn't that bad. But boy they are boring live.  Also, I found the crowd to be very unattractive.   Least attractive fan base as well.  I liked the pinball machines at MPP when was that added?
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Post by: reggie on August 20, 2012, 09:42:49 am
i missed the MMJ show, but they played "Cobra" live, which is a pretty special thing...i've seen them 8 times and never witnessed that song live. 
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Post by: reggie on August 20, 2012, 09:43:34 am
also, "One Big Holiday" and "Steam Engine" and "Run Thru" live are the opposite of boring
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Post by: Yada on August 20, 2012, 09:59:09 am
Did Jim James douche around and wear a cape?

Those guys have been boring since post Z.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on August 20, 2012, 10:32:39 am
Speaking of boring, I was at the Dirty Projectors show Saturday night.  What they do is intersting, but I found myself pretty damn bored after a handful of songs.  Left 1/2 hour into their set.

Wye Oak, on the other hand, were stellar as always and worth the price of admission all by themselves.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on August 20, 2012, 12:48:29 pm
Other than the unremarkable cover of The Clash and jammy guitar solos during the first 45 minutes, I loved the show. Cobra into RUN THRU (full song, not just the end of it like in the past) was so great and so was "O is the One That is Real". There were probably at least 5 songs I've never heard live before.

James Ford had a bathroom break during "Holding On To Black Metal"...guess he didn't care for that song.
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Post by: wml7 on August 20, 2012, 03:00:07 pm
Old man bladder
 ;D
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Post by: Yada on August 21, 2012, 02:16:31 pm
Yup... douched it up with a cape.

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Post by: jeffml on August 21, 2012, 03:04:45 pm
Technically not a cape.   I believe it had sleeves.
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Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2012, 02:37:08 pm
Three cheers for Bob Mould and his band. He makes me afraid not to turn 50.
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Post by: Sir HC on September 09, 2012, 10:21:09 pm
Three cheers for Bob Mould and his band. He makes me afraid not to turn 50.

Great show!  I think he is now 51!  His voice was pretty rough after the show though.  Hasn't been singing and touring that much. 
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Post by: Sir HC on September 09, 2012, 10:21:56 pm
Did Jim James douche around and wear a cape?

Those guys have been boring since post Z.

You mean Hagrid?  That is who he reminds me of.   :D
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Post by: atomicfront on September 10, 2012, 12:22:40 am
Jesus and Mary Chain show was awful.  They weren't too bad for the first four songs but got considerably worse and louder as the night went on.  Jim Reid wasn't the problem mostly the band was just bad.  First two songs of the encore took me almost the entire song to recognize though I had heard them quite often before.   Probably would have been easier to recognize if the band didn't drowned out Jim's vocals.

Ok so after a 27 year gap from seeing the band I would say the first show I saw them would have been in my top 10 of all time.  This one was one of the worst.  Not Sisters of Mercy bad but pretty awful.  Although I have to say I don't think the Sisters of Mercy caused permament hearing damage and I begining to think this show has. 

I am wondering if this is an official 27 year gap between first and second time of seeing a band as I have seen Bobby Gillepsie quite a few times since the first show.  I don't think I will even try to beat this now as Nostalgia shows turn out to be awful.  I think  my new rule is if a band hasn't put out an album in the last 5 years that I would listen to repeatedly if it was the only thing they ever did I am not going to see them live. 

Also 930 club is becoming my least favorite place to see a show.  Way too many people in there tonight.  I don't k now iolder people just take up more space or not bbut come on decrease the capcity by 100. 
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 01:03:38 am
Jesus and Mary Chain show was awful.  They weren't too bad for the first four songs but got considerably worse and louder as the night went on.  Jim Reid wasn't the problem mostly the band was just bad.  First two songs of the encore took me almost the entire song to recognize though I had heard them quite often before.   Probably would have been easier to recognize if the band didn't drowned out Jim's vocals.

Ok so after a 27 year gap from seeing the band I would say the first show I saw them would have been in my top 10 of all time.  This one was one of the worst.  Not Sisters of Mercy bad but pretty awful.  Although I have to say I don't think the Sisters of Mercy caused permament hearing damage and I begining to think this show has. 

I am wondering if this is an official 27 year gap between first and second time of seeing a band as I have seen Bobby Gillepsie quite a few times since the first show.  I don't think I will even try to beat this now as Nostalgia shows turn out to be awful.  I think  my new rule is if a band hasn't put out an album in the last 5 years that I would listen to repeatedly if it was the only thing they ever did I am not going to see them live. 

Also 930 club is becoming my least favorite place to see a show.  Way too many people in there tonight.  I don't k now iolder people just take up more space or not bbut come on decrease the capcity by 100. 

  valid point.. it was very loud for sure but what would one expect? it was distorted but what would one expect?
 could recognize every song from the opening 3 chords... the video i shot is distorted but my camera's mic aint the cats miau:) the instruments were louder than they should have been. weird thing is at the time, at the show, standing really close to the stage thought it sounded great but looking at the video i can recognize it was distorted

it is sad they have a backup guitarist that seems to be there mainly to cover for william in case he flubs something.. they don't need an additional guitarist in my opinion..
there were definite episodes of feedback which seemed to go awry particularly during the first half until william moved himself further back, almost behind jim, and in front of the speaker/amplifier/godknows what..

had an interesting night for sure..

jim sounded phenomenal..just like on the records..as if he had not aged a day.. he must not be a smoker or something...

got a chance to talk to them very briefly after the show... fwiw jim seemed to be genuinely happy with how the show had gone off...even though people talk about what a bunch of drinkers they are, and they were both drinking during the show, and there was talk of them drinking in the green room and hanging in the backbar (not sure if they made it) when i met them out front they both seemed pretty sober.  i think may be kind of made up as is often the case.

anyways, thank you 930 for letting me cross this off my bucket list..

 i wear ear plugs and my vulnerable right ear is ringing but that may be more because i loosened it to talk to my friend a bit during the show...

what a treat.

curious what others thought?
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Post by: Relaxer on September 10, 2012, 09:06:27 am
JAMC wasn't the show I planned/wanted to see. For one thing, not playing a single song off of Psychocandy until the second to last song of the regular set? That's seriously dumb. Without Psychocandy, JAMC is a third-rate novelty "alternative" 90s band on the level of Marcy Playground, so how do they play just 4 songs total from it? And holy shit, they butchered 'The Hardest Walk'. I couldn't tell whether the vocals or guitar were out of tune or someone was playing a different song, but it was awful. And since my exposure to the band is through the gloomy, antisocial debut, having them do extended choruses of "YEAH YEAH YEAH!" was odd. Plus, the ham-handed drummer was really Grohling all over the place.

That said, I ended up liking most of the songs. Just had to say "Okay, it's not what you wanted, but it is what's on-stage" and I liked how loud and crunchy it was. I was always disappointed that they focused mostly on their mediocre 90s stuff, but I thought it was pretty enjoyable as long as I didn't dwell on it too much.

And I've always said that the 9:30 is the biggest hassle for a sold out show. Every other venue in town is still navigable during a sold out show, but the 9:30 is just so overpacked that it's more trouble than its worth for only a few select bands.
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Post by: Paul Styrene on September 10, 2012, 09:12:31 am
I don't k now iolder people just take up more space or not bbut come on decrease the capcity by 100. 

It's not the older people.  It's the people who insist on photographing every single moment of the set.  I should know, since I am old and there weren't all those cameras clogging up the sightlines back in the day.  Now get off my lawn!
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 09:16:09 am
JAMC wasn't the show I planned/wanted to see. For one thing, not playing a single song off of Psychocandy until the second to last song of the regular set? That's seriously dumb. Without Psychocandy, JAMC is a third-rate novelty "alternative" 90s band on the level of Marcy Playground, so how do they play just 4 songs total from it? And holy shit, they butchered 'The Hardest Walk'. I couldn't tell whether the vocals or guitar were out of tune or someone was playing a different song, but it was awful. And since my exposure to the band is through the gloomy, antisocial debut, having them do extended choruses of "YEAH YEAH YEAH!" was odd. Plus, the ham-handed drummer was really Grohling all over the place.

That said, I ended up liking most of the songs. Just had to say "Okay, it's not what you wanted, but it is what's on-stage" and I liked how loud and crunchy it was. I was always disappointed that they focused mostly on their mediocre 90s stuff, but I thought it was pretty enjoyable as long as I didn't dwell on it too much.

And I've always said that the 9:30 is the biggest hassle for a sold out show. Every other venue in town is still navigable during a sold out show, but the 9:30 is just so overpacked that it's more trouble than its worth for only a few select bands.

interesting... sounds like you're not really a big fan of JAMC.. more like a fan of Psychocandy..nothing wrong with that..

They did play Some Candy Talking early and my understanding it has always been included on the CD as an extra track (it was the single released after Psychocandy)

"Head On" which went second is one of my favorite songs ever and along with three other songs they played is from Automatic which came out in 1989.. Also they played Happy when it rains which is from Darklands

So I am not sure it is fair to write you wrote.. I can't disagree more with the characterization that without Psychocandy they are Marcy Playground... Some days, for example, I prefer the album Darklands..

Anyways, next time check Setlist.fm... the setlist is pretty fixed and is always like that

It was annoying that the woman that sang with the band on Just Like Honey was so busy loving her dancing that the missed her cue to start singing and then when she did sing I wasn't too impressed but what can you do.. I wonder if they haul someone out from the audience every night or who that person was..

Its true that playing three songs from Psychocandy back to back in an almost medley for the entire encore was a bit strange.. they seemed rather rushed

But I loved the set list.. for a JAMC fan who had never seen them it was hard to argue with it.. I'd probably have taken out that All Things Must Pass which I think is an extra track on a greatest hits and replace it with another song from Darklands which was criminally underepresented. Also maybe it would have been cool to thrown in a cover..they have so many good ones.
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Post by: reggie on September 10, 2012, 09:27:05 am
so...will JAMC release a new record or are they going full-on Pixies with this reunion?
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 09:30:56 am
so...will JAMC release a new record or are they going full-on Pixies with this reunion?


I think Pixies
 :(
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Post by: Relaxer on September 10, 2012, 09:34:14 am
It's true, I'm the biggest fan of Psychocandy, I think Darklands is very good but I don't listen to it much, and I think the rest is average and unremarkable. Fact is, the first line in any JAMC bio is not going to be "the band that released the classic album 'Munki'"
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Post by: lagas on September 10, 2012, 09:43:30 am
heard the first five songs and left because the vocals were completely drowned out and it was too loud, even wearing earplugs...
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 09:45:31 am
It's true, I'm the biggest fan of Psychocandy, I think Darklands is very good but I don't listen to it much, and I think the rest is average and unremarkable. Fact is, the first line in any JAMC bio is not going to be "the band that released the classic album 'Munki'"


True, but it is also not going to be "The band that released the classic album Psychocandy and fell off the cliff.."

It just is not... You can read Ira Robbins in the NEw Trouser Press reviews or anywhere else.. JAMC was a seminal band and not because of only their first album. They had a very strong period until about 1992 or so... Dozens and dozens of singles in all kinds of formats and dozens of b-sides etc.. heck they have two b-sides compilations just for that period and they are good (Barbed Wire kisses, Sound of Speed)..


Now maybe to people that didn't grow up on them they are just the Psychocandy band that recorded that song used in that bill murray movie... but that is just for people that really aren't big fans of the band.
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 09:47:30 am
heard the first five songs and left because the vocals were completely drowned out and it was too loud, even wearing earplugs...


Really? Where were you standing? I was 10 feet back from speaker on stage right... could hear the vocals just fine.. there was a brief spell where the microphone for Jim went out so you could not hear him but it was just on part of one song.. it was fixed..

No doubt they were loud and used a distorted sound but not sure who would have expected differently.. my friend emailed me during the day about how it would be a good show for earplugs.


Sorry people did not enjoy it as much as I did.. for me it was wonderful but I can only speak for myself!

I think I did identify some issues with the show though so it is not like I am saying it was perfect or something
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Post by: Samantha on September 10, 2012, 09:57:52 am
Maybe Hutch and I went to a different show than some of you.

I can't imagine how you can complain about Jesus & Mary Chain being distorted.  Maybe it's a sign of our clean-cut-pop times.  My only regret of the night was that they were too crisp sounding and I wished there was more distortion.  And I recognized every song immediately and had to stop myself from singing along.

I was in the front row against the stage and I had plenty of room.  I was thinking to myself that this was the least sold-out-like sold out show I'd ever been to.  The people in the second row even allowed those of us in the front row room to dance.  (The photographers were a little annoying but they left early.)

I didn't think it was too loud, either, I thought it was perfect; no earplugs.

And the song selection was excellent.  Well balanced, I thought.  Of course I would have liked to hear more but if I had my way they would have played their entire discography.

I will admit that I was just happy to see them, as someone who is too young to have seen them back in the day.  I had just always wanted to see them and I'm grateful that I got to...I did not have high expectations as I know full well what reunion bands are like.  But they sounded true to themselves so I couldn't complain.  I hope they don't put out a new album just in case I don't like the new album...it's not like they don't have plenty in their repertoire already.

My complaint about the 9:30 Club is that I got shoved by two security staph at the end of the show.  I understand they were chasing someone, but it seems they could have used an arm swipe to move me to the side...I don't THINK I look so sturdy as to necessitate a two handed push in the back.  Jeesh.
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Post by: atomicfront on September 10, 2012, 09:59:43 am
heard the first five songs and left because the vocals were completely drowned out and it was too loud, even wearing earplugs...


Really? Where were you standing? I was 10 feet back from speaker on stage right... could hear the vocals just fine.. there was a brief spell where the microphone for Jim went out so you could not hear him but it was just on part of one song.. it was fixed..

No doubt they were loud and used a distorted sound but not sure who would have expected differently.. my friend emailed me during the day about how it would be a good show for earplugs.


Sorry people did not enjoy it as much as I did.. for me it was wonderful but I can only speak for myself!

I think I did identify some issues with the show though so it is not like I am saying it was perfect or something


Having seen them during psychocandy era I was not ready for the loudness of the band.  They weren't that loud originally.  actualy quite the opposite.  Playing pop songs with feeback.  I think Automatic is a good album.  And "Sometimes always" is one of their best songs.  To say that they are just "Psychocandy" is silly. 
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Post by: lagas on September 10, 2012, 10:04:07 am
heard the first five songs and left because the vocals were completely drowned out and it was too loud, even wearing earplugs...


Really? Where were you standing? I was 10 feet back from speaker on stage right... could hear the vocals just fine.. there was a brief spell where the microphone for Jim went out so you could not hear him but it was just on part of one song.. it was fixed..

No doubt they were loud and used a distorted sound but not sure who would have expected differently.. my friend emailed me during the day about how it would be a good show for earplugs.


Sorry people did not enjoy it as much as I did.. for me it was wonderful but I can only speak for myself!

I think I did identify some issues with the show though so it is not like I am saying it was perfect or something

I was right in front of the soundboard...I did see a lot of people dancing and having a good time though...
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Post by: challenged on September 10, 2012, 10:05:31 am
Three cheers for Bob Mould and his band. He makes me afraid not to turn 50.

Great show!  I think he is now 51!  His voice was pretty rough after the show though.  Hasn't been singing and touring that much. 

Loved the Bob Mould show.  (And Loved the free ticket some dude gave me on the way in 2 minutes before the show).
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 10:23:05 am
heard the first five songs and left because the vocals were completely drowned out and it was too loud, even wearing earplugs...


Really? Where were you standing? I was 10 feet back from speaker on stage right... could hear the vocals just fine.. there was a brief spell where the microphone for Jim went out so you could not hear him but it was just on part of one song.. it was fixed..

No doubt they were loud and used a distorted sound but not sure who would have expected differently.. my friend emailed me during the day about how it would be a good show for earplugs.


Sorry people did not enjoy it as much as I did.. for me it was wonderful but I can only speak for myself!

I think I did identify some issues with the show though so it is not like I am saying it was perfect or something

I was right in front of the soundboard...I did see a lot of people dancing and having a good time though...

I wonder if possibly people who were up front benefited from fact that speakers are high up and maybe some of the sound goes past you?

I don't know how else to explain that to me every word Jim sang was clear and yet people say they couldn't hear or in some cases even tell what song was being played...

Like I said , going over my video a bit last night it is definitely distorted but more so because the camera mic can't handle that level of volume ...
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 10:24:42 am
Three cheers for Bob Mould and his band. He makes me afraid not to turn 50.

Great show!  I think he is now 51!  His voice was pretty rough after the show though.  Hasn't been singing and touring that much. 

Loved the Bob Mould show.  (And Loved the free ticket some dude gave me on the way in 2 minutes before the show).


JUST ONCE I"D LIKE TO GET  A FREE TICKET OUT FRONT JUST ONCE.. its always the person standing next to me! arghhh


glad for your good fortune and was most sorry to miss this show...
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Post by: Got Haggis? on September 10, 2012, 10:33:29 am
I was to the left of the soundboard...i thought they sounded good for the most part.  My only disappointment was the fact that the setlist looks like its exactly the same every night.  And the chick from the Vandelles singing Just Like Honey was a bit distracting moving all around like that, heh
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 10:36:49 am
I was to the left of the soundboard...i thought they sounded good for the most part.  My only disappointment was the fact that the setlist looks like its exactly the same every night.  And the chick from the Vandelles singing Just Like Honey was a bit distracting moving all around like that, heh



so that is where she was from.. ok...

the main problem with her, aside from her singing and dancing, was she completely missed her entry cue and was about 5 very painful seconds too late.. there is a youtube video of it someone already posted

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Post by: jb1677 on September 10, 2012, 11:11:13 am
I was about 10ft in fromt of the left side of the soundboard, just in line with or slightly to the right of the left hanging speaker array and it sounded great while I was there.  The vocals were clear, and all songs were easily recognized.  From a crowd perspective it seemed great for a sold out show.  There were 2 chicks near me with room to dance their asses off the entire show.  I stepped out of my spot twice to grab a drink and managed to get back to the exact same spot the first time.  The second time I could have but it would have required a few excuseme's so I just parked it closer to the back just to the left of the sound board where oddly I could hear the vocals much less than my previous spot a mere 10ish feet away.  All in all I loved it, was exactly what I was hoping for, I was still grinning a bit when i got home.

I do wish I brought my ear plugs along, I have  a bit of ringing - more than I have ever experienced when forgetting my plugs.
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 12:06:20 pm
say what was the previous JAMC show in DC? Did they play in 2007 or was it for the Munki tour in the late 1990s?
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Post by: nkotb on September 10, 2012, 12:22:28 pm
I never saw them during their initial run, so I was pretty psyched on the show: great setlist I thought, crowd that was into it and some serious noise.  But then again, that's what I was hoping to get...I left with no complaints.

And how odd is it, after years of wasting my life posting on this board, that during the show I thought "huh, I wonder if Samantha is here".

Maybe Hutch and I went to a different show than some of you.

I can't imagine how you can complain about Jesus & Mary Chain being distorted.  Maybe it's a sign of our clean-cut-pop times.  My only regret of the night was that they were too crisp sounding and I wished there was more distortion.  And I recognized every song immediately and had to stop myself from singing along.

I was in the front row against the stage and I had plenty of room.  I was thinking to myself that this was the least sold-out-like sold out show I'd ever been to.  The people in the second row even allowed those of us in the front row room to dance.  (The photographers were a little annoying but they left early.)

I didn't think it was too loud, either, I thought it was perfect; no earplugs.

And the song selection was excellent.  Well balanced, I thought.  Of course I would have liked to hear more but if I had my way they would have played their entire discography.

I will admit that I was just happy to see them, as someone who is too young to have seen them back in the day.  I had just always wanted to see them and I'm grateful that I got to...I did not have high expectations as I know full well what reunion bands are like.  But they sounded true to themselves so I couldn't complain.  I hope they don't put out a new album just in case I don't like the new album...it's not like they don't have plenty in their repertoire already.

My complaint about the 9:30 Club is that I got shoved by two security staph at the end of the show.  I understand they were chasing someone, but it seems they could have used an arm swipe to move me to the side...I don't THINK I look so sturdy as to necessitate a two handed push in the back.  Jeesh.
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 12:25:01 pm
and how weird that I was being chased.... ;D

sorry Samantha it really was not my fault!
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Post by: James Ford on September 10, 2012, 02:00:04 pm
Sorry to those music writers who are also members of this boards, but....

I always get a good chuckle when Hutch quotes music writers and acts as if it's proof of anything more than the fact that Hutch reads too many music rags.

It's true, I'm the biggest fan of Psychocandy, I think Darklands is very good but I don't listen to it much, and I think the rest is average and unremarkable. Fact is, the first line in any JAMC bio is not going to be "the band that released the classic album 'Munki'"


True, but it is also not going to be "The band that released the classic album Psychocandy and fell off the cliff.."

It just is not... You can read Ira Robbins in the NEw Trouser Press reviews or anywhere else.. JAMC was a seminal band and not because of only their first album. They had a very strong period until about 1992 or so... Dozens and dozens of singles in all kinds of formats and dozens of b-sides etc.. heck they have two b-sides compilations just for that period and they are good (Barbed Wire kisses, Sound of Speed)..


Now maybe to people that didn't grow up on them they are just the Psychocandy band that recorded that song used in that bill murray movie... but that is just for people that really aren't big fans of the band.
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 03:15:06 pm
Sorry to those music writers who are also members of this boards, but....

I always get a good chuckle when Hutch quotes music writers and acts as if it's proof of anything more than the fact that Hutch reads too many music rags.

It's true, I'm the biggest fan of Psychocandy, I think Darklands is very good but I don't listen to it much, and I think the rest is average and unremarkable. Fact is, the first line in any JAMC bio is not going to be "the band that released the classic album 'Munki'"


True, but it is also not going to be "The band that released the classic album Psychocandy and fell off the cliff.."

It just is not... You can read Ira Robbins in the NEw Trouser Press reviews or anywhere else.. JAMC was a seminal band and not because of only their first album. They had a very strong period until about 1992 or so... Dozens and dozens of singles in all kinds of formats and dozens of b-sides etc.. heck they have two b-sides compilations just for that period and they are good (Barbed Wire kisses, Sound of Speed)..


Now maybe to people that didn't grow up on them they are just the Psychocandy band that recorded that song used in that bill murray movie... but that is just for people that really aren't big fans of the band.


Always glad to crack you  up..


 ;D

Actually the Ira Robbins is in the New Music Tourser Press or what have you.. .I own a copy.. its great reading..and very funny.... I'm too lazy to go get it but later I'll post a paragraph on Soundgarden
Definitely dangerous to say "because all the critics love u in New York..."
I wouldn't say that critical opinion is always right  but I guess what I'm saying is that JAMC is not a band wherein the consensus is that they had one bangin' album and put out tosh for the rest of their career... a solid body of work is more like it.. Now maybe the young uns who sell out BRMC -total JAMC impostors- quicker than their teachers..well maybe they go back and are too lazy to listen to more than one JAMC record so they pick Psychocandy...but that is just plain lazy and doesn't really tell you anything.

I also think that these days music criticism is sort of superseded by rate your music. On that site everyone gets to be a critic and you can at least get to see what people n general ithink of the different albums.. I can't recall the ratings for JAMC but I'm pretty sure there are a few albums that do very well for them.
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Post by: Relaxer on September 10, 2012, 03:25:18 pm
I'm going to disagree with you on that, Hutch. I believe JAMC's obit is, in fact, that they released one classic album and then some other records.

I bought the import You Trip Me Up ep in 1985 and then Psychocandy lp the week it was released in the US, so not everyone who disagrees with you is a dingbat new fan.
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 04:35:06 pm
I'm going to disagree with you on that, Hutch. I believe JAMC's obit is, in fact, that they released one classic album and then some other records.

I bought the import You Trip Me Up ep in 1985 and then Psychocandy lp the week it was released in the US, so not everyone who disagrees with you is a dingbat new fan.


you may be right. i suggest you guys made a mistake in going last night then.. wait for the 30th anniversary of psychocandy tour where they will play the entire album or something!

 ;D
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Post by: wml7 on September 10, 2012, 04:41:17 pm
Are they as loud as my bloody valentine?
 ;D
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 04:52:37 pm
Anyways point taken.. shame on JAMC for playing a cross section of their career instead of concentrating on Psychocandy. Heck, I don't know why they kept recording after Psychocandy.

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Post by: Jaguar on September 10, 2012, 05:14:33 pm
Hutch, I want to see these videos you took. Don't worry, I can fill in the loss of proper audio with my mind.

By the time I found out that I could easily work the show around my work schedule, it had already sold out. Just my luck!
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Post by: sweetcell on September 10, 2012, 05:24:10 pm
the video i shot is distorted but my camera's mic aint the cats miau:)

weird thing is at the time, at the show, standing really close to the stage thought it sounded great but looking at the video i can recognize it was distorted

your two statements don't make sense to me: 1) your vids sound distorted because your camera's mic is crap, but 2) listening to the badly recorded videos you conclude that the show sounded distorted, even though at the time your ears told you otherwise.
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Post by: atomicfront on September 10, 2012, 06:00:47 pm
I'm going to disagree with you on that, Hutch. I believe JAMC's obit is, in fact, that they released one classic album and then some other records.

I bought the import You Trip Me Up ep in 1985 and then Psychocandy lp the week it was released in the US, so not everyone who disagrees with you is a dingbat new fan.

Newbie.  I got Psycocandy when it was released in the UK.  Which I believe was a month before it was relased in the US.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on September 10, 2012, 07:48:33 pm
Funny, I think that the feedback ruins the songs on Psychocandy. I find it unlistenable, despite a plethora of great songs. Darklands is my favorite LP of theirs. Followed by Honey's Dead. That was the first tour I saw them on. I missed the show last night because I wasn't feeling well, but I'm hopefully catching them Sunday in Chicago at Riotfest. I'll be curious how they manage in the daylight hours.
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Post by: Samantha on September 10, 2012, 07:53:06 pm
Are they as loud as my bloody valentine?
 ;D

NO.
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Post by: Samantha on September 10, 2012, 07:55:06 pm
I never saw them during their initial run, so I was pretty psyched on the show: great setlist I thought, crowd that was into it and some serious noise.  But then again, that's what I was hoping to get...I left with no complaints.

And how odd is it, after years of wasting my life posting on this board, that during the show I thought "huh, I wonder if Samantha is here".


Aww I'm memorable!  And I agree with you 100%, which is nice to hear after the complaints. 
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2012, 08:00:07 pm
the video i shot is distorted but my camera's mic aint the cats miau:)

weird thing is at the time, at the show, standing really close to the stage thought it sounded great but looking at the video i can recognize it was distorted

your two statements don't make sense to me: 1) your vids sound distorted because your camera's mic is crap, but 2) listening to the badly recorded videos you conclude that the show sounded distorted, even though at the time your ears told you otherwise.
yeah it was late when i typed


i agree.. it makes no sense.
 i may upload one just to demonstrate how the vocals at least were super clear.. not sure why lagas wrote he couldn't hear them...i'm guessing in different places it is different.

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Post by: Samantha on September 10, 2012, 08:01:12 pm
My further 2 cents before I disappear again (obviously I'm procrastinating IRL)

I don't know how you could like Psychocandy and nothing else, and I say that even though Psychocandy is definitely my favorite album.  Something's wrong with you, I'm sure.  Love the noise, hell yeah.

I've been the fan the longest because I'm sure that despite the fact that I wasn't even conceived yet, I was a fan of theirs in the ethereal sea in which our spirits wander before birth.  I WIN.

You people just plain crazy, that's all.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 11, 2012, 07:32:38 am
My biggest regret is not realizing that Samantha would be at the show and not sending her a text to try and catch up beforehand. Anyone who knows her knows how much of a bummer this is.  It has been way too long! Pretty sure the last time I saw you was Grinderman?

That said, I also enjoyed the show and knew exactly what to expect because I looked at setlist.fm earlier on. Other than a few obvious flubs, I thought everything was played very well and was totally recognizable/audible. So yeah, thoroughly enjoyable show. I also got a chance to catch them at Coachella in 07 so maybe I was more aware as to what to expect than those who were underwhelmed. Except for Joe but that is because he is an ass. Oh and the Psychic Paramount set was epic.

Might as well talk about the rest of my packed weekend here. Mission of Burma get better with age. There is no other way to put it.The old stuff sounded incredible and the new material sounded perfectly in place next to it. Such an amazing band. What more can be said?

Bob Mould band set was phenomenal but that crowd was the worst in recent memory. It was a sea of idiots who had no idea as to how to conduct themselves at a rock concert. I much preferred the 2009 gig but through no fault of the band itself.

Manateees at Comet on Friday was a good time but I have a soft spot for psychedelic garage pop. First time catching Fordists in over 1.5 years so they were a nice treat. Everything I had to say about Sunn is in the RC thread.
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Post by: hutch on September 11, 2012, 08:04:35 am
damn, Samantha must be a looker!... I'm starting to regret not meeting her myself...


 :D
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Post by: hutch on September 11, 2012, 08:20:19 am
"Head On" was the worst song feedback wise.. I think William moved back after this..actually started moving back during the song...

but I think this video- I didn't take it- pretty much shows how it sounded..vocals were very clear..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQomCtrTyZI
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Post by: Samantha on September 11, 2012, 08:11:18 pm
"Head On" was the worst song feedback wise.. I think William moved back after this..actually started moving back during the song...

but I think this video- I didn't take it- pretty much shows how it sounded..vocals were very clear..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQomCtrTyZI

SEE I TOLD YOU IT WAS CRISP-SOUNDING.  Compare those vocals to J&MC on an album.  J&MC vocals are by definition difficult to understand.  It's the peer pressure of today's jangly pop, I tell you.  Also, I might be visible in that video, next to the really tall kid in the white shirt on the far right against the stage.  (Maybe not--anyways it adds to my mystique I guess.)

damn, Samantha must be a looker!... I'm starting to regret not meeting her myself...


 :D

I have big boobs.  I'm not bragging, it's just a fact.

My biggest regret is not realizing that Samantha would be at the show and not sending her a text to try and catch up beforehand. Anyone who knows her knows how much of a bummer this is.  It has been way too long! Pretty sure the last time I saw you was Grinderman?

I do believe Grinderman was the last time I was at 9:30.  The shows I've been to have been few and far between...how long ago was that?  I truly thought to text you too, but for some reason I wasn't sure that you'd be there?  Also I think I was kind of trying to be stealth because I wanted to get up front (which I did) and leave immediately afterward (which I did not really because I was in line for merch forever).  It wasn't until the merch line that I started chatting with people I knew...I'm quite the social phantom these days, it seems.

I'm glad you mentioned Psychic Paramount, I forgot to mention OMG THEY WERE AMAZING.  I'm still stunned that an opening band without vocals could be so brilliant.  I'm not gonna lie I scoffed when they walked on without mics...ho ho, thought I, who do these hooligans think they are, scoff scoff.  Oh, but I did regret my hasty pessimism.  I also enjoyed the Vandelles, they were fun...so liking the opening bands definitely made the night even more wonderful.
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Post by: atomicfront on September 11, 2012, 11:00:51 pm
"Head On" was the worst song feedback wise.. I think William moved back after this..actually started moving back during the song...

but I think this video- I didn't take it- pretty much shows how it sounded..vocals were very clear..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQomCtrTyZI

This is the second song they played.  As I said the first four songs were OK and then it got bad and then worse.  To the encores where I could barely hear the vocals at all.  Even in that song they sound pretty bad though.  I guess it was worse than I remembered. 
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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 12, 2012, 01:30:22 am
Are people really bitching about feedback at a Jesus and Mary Chain show? I always thought feedback was just something that you got with them.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 12, 2012, 01:42:17 am
"Head On" was the worst song feedback wise.. I think William moved back after this..actually started moving back during the song...

but I think this video- I didn't take it- pretty much shows how it sounded..vocals were very clear..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQomCtrTyZI

SEE I TOLD YOU IT WAS CRISP-SOUNDING.  Compare those vocals to J&MC on an album.  J&MC vocals are by definition difficult to understand.  It's the peer pressure of today's jangly pop, I tell you.  Also, I might be visible in that video, next to the really tall kid in the white shirt on the far right against the stage.  (Maybe not--anyways it adds to my mystique I guess.)

damn, Samantha must be a looker!... I'm starting to regret not meeting her myself...


 :D

I have big boobs.  I'm not bragging, it's just a fact.

My biggest regret is not realizing that Samantha would be at the show and not sending her a text to try and catch up beforehand. Anyone who knows her knows how much of a bummer this is.  It has been way too long! Pretty sure the last time I saw you was Grinderman?

I do believe Grinderman was the last time I was at 9:30.  The shows I've been to have been few and far between...how long ago was that?  I truly thought to text you too, but for some reason I wasn't sure that you'd be there?  Also I think I was kind of trying to be stealth because I wanted to get up front (which I did) and leave immediately afterward (which I did not really because I was in line for merch forever).  It wasn't until the merch line that I started chatting with people I knew...I'm quite the social phantom these days, it seems.

I'm glad you mentioned Psychic Paramount, I forgot to mention OMG THEY WERE AMAZING.  I'm still stunned that an opening band without vocals could be so brilliant.  I'm not gonna lie I scoffed when they walked on without mics...ho ho, thought I, who do these hooligans think they are, scoff scoff.  Oh, but I did regret my hasty pessimism.  I also enjoyed the Vandelles, they were fun...so liking the opening bands definitely made the night even more wonderful.
It was almost two years back. Time is speeding by at a scary ass pace. I got there after The Vandelles had started and did not hang out too long on the floor after the JAMC finished. I quickly slipped out and down to the backbar. Explains why we completely missed each other. Too bad. And yeah I made sure I was there and in position in time for Psychic Paramount. Fantastic, terribly overlooked band. Glad you dug them.
Come to the Dirty Three show. The Warren Ellis connection to Nick Cave should be reason enough. ;D
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Post by: Jaguar on September 12, 2012, 02:58:28 am
Are people really bitching about feedback at a Jesus and Mary Chain show? I always thought feedback was just something that you got with them.


I kept wondering too about this. With JAMC, there is supposed to be feedback. Lots of feedback. Then again, there is good feedback and bad feedback so I wasn't so sure what everyone was talking about.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 12, 2012, 07:15:37 am
I have been doing this long enough to tell the difference and this feedback was what one expected.
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Post by: nkotb on September 12, 2012, 08:37:02 am
I'm a swinging bachelor this week so I'm getting a little crazy*.  Caught JAMC but I already chimed in there.  I was out of town over the weekend, so I missed the Bob Mould show, but decided to drive up to Philly last night to see it.  Killer stuff...those guys seemed like they were having the time of their lives up there.  And I never thought I'd say this, given how much I dig Husker Du, but man, that Copper Blue set blew the few Husker songs he played away.  And the new album sounds killer...not sure why I never bothered with his actual solo stuff, but I'll need to check the new one out.

* Translation: watching pro-wrestling and sleeping through the night.
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Post by: killsaly on September 12, 2012, 03:58:25 pm
* Translation: watching pro-wrestling
WWE or other? Ive recently got into RoH.  RoH led me to Chikara and PWG and the rest of the indy scene and I have to say, production values aside, all of those promotions kill WWE in the actual wrestling department.  I also started watching TNA, which I found to be an OK alternative to WWE, with better wrestling, but definitely not as good story-wise. 
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Post by: James Ford on September 12, 2012, 04:06:42 pm
Sounds like you're a swingin bachelor 365 days a year!

* Translation: watching pro-wrestling
WWE or other? Ive recently got into RoH.  RoH led me to Chikara and PWG and the rest of the indy scene and I have to say, production values aside, all of those promotions kill WWE in the actual wrestling department.  I also started watching TNA, which I found to be an OK alternative to WWE, with better wrestling, but definitely not as good story-wise. 
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Post by: nkotb on September 12, 2012, 04:07:13 pm
Mostly just WWE.  I have the free online subscription to RoH, and desperately want to start watching a bit more, but man, it's tough with kids/wife/dog/job/etc.  I barely have enough time to stay healthy, let alone sitting around watching dudes punch each other.  

* Translation: watching pro-wrestling
WWE or other? Ive recently got into RoH.  RoH led me to Chikara and PWG and the rest of the indy scene and I have to say, production values aside, all of those promotions kill WWE in the actual wrestling department.  I also started watching TNA, which I found to be an OK alternative to WWE, with better wrestling, but definitely not as good story-wise. 
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Post by: killsaly on September 12, 2012, 04:25:39 pm
Sounds like you're a swingin bachelor 365 days a year!
You would think so!

Unfortunately for your analysis of my personal life based upon what I like to do with some of my free time, you are wrong.  Im not a bachelor.  Been in a healthy committed relationship for almost three years now.

Mostly just WWE.  I have the free online subscription to RoH, and desperately want to start watching a bit more, but man, it's tough with kids/wife/dog/job/etc.  I barely have enough time to stay healthy, let alone sitting around watching dudes punch each other.
I know the feeling., but I still am able to keep up with the TV stuff late night.
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Post by: James Ford on September 12, 2012, 04:30:09 pm
Do you get her Christmas gifts at Petsmart, or Petco?

 ;D

Sounds like you're a swingin bachelor 365 days a year!
You would think so!

Unfortunately for your analysis of my personal life based upon what I like to do with some of my free time, you are wrong.  Im not a bachelor.  Been in a healthy committed relationship for almost three years now.

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Post by: atomicfront on September 13, 2012, 12:34:09 am
I have been doing this long enough to tell the difference and this feedback was what one expected.


Whatever I saw them when they played their first show in DC and it sounded nothing like the mess the other night.  Band who's time has past playing a sloppy show that was way too loud. Why are we still talking about this?  Did anyone see the Amanda Palmer show tonight?  I wanted to go but coudln't make it. 
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Post by: Jaguar on September 13, 2012, 01:31:21 am
Was Christo with The Vandelles? Blonde guy who plays the Jazzmaster. Or was it just Jason with the 2 girls?

Curious because Christo is also a member of Dead Leaf Echo and think he may be touring with them.
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Post by: hutch on September 14, 2012, 10:21:01 am
I know many will not believe me but the J Geils Band tore the roof off the Fillmore in Silver Spring so expect cancellations of upcoming shows at the venue.


They had a three piece horn section, two backing singers.. the works.. Peter Wolf was a maniac as was Magic Dick.

Set list was about 28 songs!


Thumbs down to the shit-pie venue for adding a lame folkie/downer opener at the last minute and not telling anyone.. could have spent that hour partying somewhere instead of sitting on my hands booing this clown. You could not have had a worse fit for an opener than this guy.

I guess when shows don't sell that well they add seats on the floor to make it looked more filled up? In any case everybody stood the entire show so it was really silly.
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Post by: Bagley on September 14, 2012, 10:29:07 am
anybody check out Ariel Pink last night?
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Post by: Yada on September 22, 2012, 04:19:03 pm
The Bahamas show was awesome... Gotta say I love Iota, haven't been in a damn long time. Great beer selection, not crowded, good stuff.
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Post by: mekmad on September 22, 2012, 09:36:53 pm
I don't really know anything about the J Geils band but I think I read that J Geils isn't even in the J Geils band anymore.  That doesn't seem right..  Like the Jimi Hendrix experience touring without Jimi..
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Post by: hutch on September 22, 2012, 09:56:40 pm
I don't really know anything about the J Geils band but I think I read that J Geils isn't even in the J Geils band anymore.  That doesn't seem right..  Like the Jimi Hendrix experience touring without Jimi..

yeah some people feel that way..its complicated


j geis has never written or sung any j geils band song... he trademarked the name last year going behind the band's back.. then they said they wanted to tour and he said he didn't...when they  went ahead with their tour he sued..very strange... but the geils band- name notwithstanding- has always been peter wolf/seth justman and magic dick more than geils.. it was a bummer he wasn't there though.. ain't going to lie..

i just don't put that much stock in the name..more on the experience....but do i think i saw the j geils band even though there was no j geils? yeah i do... as strange as it is... a unique case.
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Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 23, 2012, 12:30:39 am
why's the band named after him then? seems odd to have a name like the j geils band if j geils didnt sing or write the songs
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Post by: wml7 on September 23, 2012, 08:55:29 am
Is that the band that sings angel is centerfold and only hit they had with j geils actually singing the song?
 ;D
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Post by: hutch on September 23, 2012, 10:43:25 am
why's the band named after him then? seems odd to have a name like the j geils band if j geils didnt sing or write the songs

good question... maybe I'll look into it.. as big a fan I am I have no idea how the bad got started or why they are named J Geils Band
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Post by: stevewizzle on September 23, 2012, 08:39:18 pm
The Bahamas show was awesome... Gotta say I love Iota, haven't been in a damn long time. Great beer selection, not crowded, good stuff.

great show. crazy it was like a turnout of maybe 75 people.  feel like he's got something good going on.
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Post by: Yada on September 24, 2012, 12:45:35 pm
Matthew E. White show was awesome at the Blowtel. Hopefully won't be back to that venue though for another few years. Worst sound EVER.
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Post by: K8teebug on September 27, 2012, 10:59:41 am
http://soundcloud.com/idealforms

Recorded songs from the band who opened for Corin Tucker last night, Ideal Forms.  I really enjoyed them!

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Post by: hutch on September 27, 2012, 11:01:09 am
what about the wallflowers??? come on people.come clean.
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Post by: K8teebug on September 27, 2012, 11:12:05 am
Corin Tucker made fun of them.  That's all I know.
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Post by: hutch on September 27, 2012, 11:19:11 am
Corin Tucker made fun of them.  That's all I know.


you didn't look for jakob??? even though he was in the same club????
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Post by: James Ford on September 27, 2012, 11:28:11 am
I'll take his mediocre voice and dull songs over her awful voice anyday.  ;D
Corin Tucker made fun of them.  That's all I know.
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Post by: hutch on September 27, 2012, 11:29:56 am
I love Corin Tucker and of course Jakob Dylan but you gotta wonder about Corin Tucker when her two bandmates basically continue to tour without her in Wild Flag.. it would seem they just don't like her very much...
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Post by: K8teebug on September 27, 2012, 11:42:10 am
She was on Portlandia.  I think they just wanted to do other things for a while.  She even filmed the first few webisodes of it for them.

I could give a crap about the Wallflowers.  sorry.
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Post by: James Ford on September 27, 2012, 11:43:11 am
Along those same lines, one had to wonder how much of a dick Jay Farrar must have been for the other members of Uncle Tupelo to follow Jeff Tweedy after they broke up.


Following Uncle Tupelo's final tour, Tweedy encouraged his bandmates to join him in a new group, while Farrar searched for members for a band of his own. Tweedy was able to retain the rest of the Uncle Tupelo lineup, and created Wilco.
I love Corin Tucker and of course Jakob Dylan but you gotta wonder about Corin Tucker when her two bandmates basically continue to tour without her in Wild Flag.. it would seem they just don't like her very much...
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Post by: hutch on September 27, 2012, 11:46:35 am
Along those same lines, one had to wonder how much of a dick Jay Farrar must have been for the other members of Uncle Tupelo to follow Jeff Tweedy after they broke up.


Following Uncle Tupelo's final tour, Tweedy encouraged his bandmates to join him in a new group, while Farrar searched for members for a band of his own. Tweedy was able to retain the rest of the Uncle Tupelo lineup, and created Wilco.
I love Corin Tucker and of course Jakob Dylan but you gotta wonder about Corin Tucker when her two bandmates basically continue to tour without her in Wild Flag.. it would seem they just don't like her very much...





oh I don't know... I'm a farrar man myself....didn't one or two tupelo guys stick with farrar


i think the record is pretty clear on tweedy being a dick.... the jay bennett (RIP) story is all i need to know.
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Post by: Darth Ed on September 27, 2012, 03:01:12 pm
She was on Portlandia.  I think they just wanted to do other things for a while.  She even filmed the first few webisodes of it for them.

I was shocked when I arrived at the Corin Tucker Band show last night, and Corin was working the merch table before the show. My friend and I chatted with her for a solid half hour before the show started. She was very nice and autographed the CD I bought. I almost never get to shows early, but I'm glad I did last night. We were like don't you have minions to work the mech table for you? And she said, well, they're busy getting the equipment ready and really working the merch table is the easiest job in the band, so she didn't mind at all. She talked about her kids and fitting touring in with family life. We asked when she'd be on Portlandia again, snd she said no plans for it, but it's usually happens spontaneously, without any warning. They just call her up and ask her to come over to film a few scenes and they kind of make up the script at the time. I wanted to tell her than the last Sleater-Kinney show at the 9:30 Club was one of the top 3 best shows I've ever seen, but I didn't want to imply any comparisons with her current band, so I kept that to myself.

I thought it was a fantastic show! Both Ms. Tucker and her voice were/are very lovely, IMHO.
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Post by: K8teebug on September 27, 2012, 03:27:01 pm
I was too, but I was too shy to say hello.  Got to talk with her after the show though. 
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Post by: hutch on September 27, 2012, 04:07:51 pm
corin tucker rocks... i am sorry i missed it...
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Post by: atomicfront on October 13, 2012, 09:58:09 am
Jens Lekman was pretty amazing. Best show I have seen since Polyphonic Spree.  He did tell a lot of stories on stage and was a lot more energetic than I would have expected.  2 encores.  I am sure the crowd would have insisted on more but Jens said he was under a hard curfew of 8:52.  That is kind of ridiculous. 

At least I saved money on beer as I wasn't in a drinking mood at 6.   Place was pretty full for the early hour though.

Classic as I was leaving a Silversun Pickups fan tried to run us down in the crosswalk in their 3 series bmw.  The car of the asshole.   You know the person who wants to act like they have money but really don't so they get a cheap bmw so they can look like they have money and then drive around like an asshole because they can't afford their car payments.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 13, 2012, 12:00:27 pm
The hard curfew was 9. That is standard practice for an early show at the club if the late doors are 10:00. And yeah, great show. He is so much better with a band than when he plays solo. His first Black Cat show is still my favorite of his DC appearances but last night was a close second.


Still reeling from the Swans show. Each time I have seen them was totally different from the others but all have been intense marathons with huge hills and valleys.
A Hawk and A Hacksaw were a treat as well.
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Post by: killsaly on October 13, 2012, 12:44:39 pm
Swans were great.  How long did they end up playing?  I watched an hour up front, and 30 minutes in the back and decided to leave.  It was brutal in a good way.  The volume was so extreme, my nice ear plugs barely made a difference.  And as for the heat of the club, i observed someone bring a band member to the thermostat, and shined a flashlight on it to verify the temp was high enough. 

Sorry I couldnt chill with you and Joe.  I got to the area at 9:10, but wasnt able to park and get in line until almost 10:00.  I wandering around a few times looking for you guys, but no dice.
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Post by: Captain Jack on October 13, 2012, 04:20:11 pm
Swans was great. It had to have been over two hours. It looked like NPR had a computer/mixer there. I hope the whole set gets put up online.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 13, 2012, 04:38:47 pm
I had roughly 2:05.

Killsaly, Joe told me you had an issue parking. That area is getting worse and worse parkingwise.

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Post by: killsaly on October 13, 2012, 07:51:20 pm
I drove past the Black Cat at about 9:00, and wasnt able to find a parking spot until about 9:40.  The spot was pretty good though, but not worth driving so much.  If I had realized it was so bad I would have just parked at Greenbelt and rode the Metro in. 
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 13, 2012, 07:59:30 pm
I have known a few who have lost their patience on busy nights and went home. So it doesn't surprise me at all that it would take you that long.

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Post by: killsaly on October 13, 2012, 11:09:54 pm
The rubber duck on top of the Orange head was a nice touch. 
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Post by: Unsanity on October 15, 2012, 06:58:26 am
Looks like that Swans show rocked. I should go see them sometime.

I went to see Larry and His Flask w/ Willy Tea Taylor at the Velvet Lounge last night and man they REALLY need to stop that DJ crap when artists are playing upstairs. When musicians onstage have to mention the "thump thump" coming from another floor you know its bad!
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 15, 2012, 07:17:43 am
I am so done with that piece of shit venue.
The sound dudes upstairs are great and try their hardest to make the best of a crappy predicament but the bar staff, management and DJ's just seem to not give a fuck.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 15, 2012, 10:02:40 am
Coward from this swans tour (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LNb5S54vYY)



One of the peaks of the set.
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Post by: Yada on October 25, 2012, 12:23:53 pm
So after last night, that's two visits to the Fillmore in the past two years, wow... what an awful place.

It was oversold by at least 10%, maybe more... I feel like they take advantage of the few good shows they get and over sell the shit out of it to make up for all the other crappy tickets sales. It was about 100 degrees in the back towards the doors, but cooler as you got closer to the stage which was strange. Doors opened at 6:30, yet at 8pm the line still snaked around the block.

Hopefully I won't be back for another year.
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Post by: hutch on October 25, 2012, 12:40:12 pm
So after last night, that's two visits to the Fillmore in the past two years, wow... what an awful place.

It was oversold by at least 10%, maybe more... I feel like they take advantage of the few good shows they get and over sell the shit out of it to make up for all the other crappy tickets sales. It was about 100 degrees in the back towards the doors, but cooler as you got closer to the stage which was strange. Doors opened at 6:30, yet at 8pm the line still snaked around the block.

Hopefully I won't be back for another year.

yeah.. I've gone to two shows and hope to not return...

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Post by: Relaxer on October 25, 2012, 12:44:46 pm
Yada, what show was it?
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Post by: hutch on October 25, 2012, 12:51:34 pm
Yada, what show was it?

Trey Anastasio Band

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Post by: Yada on October 29, 2012, 10:58:19 am
Amazing Sean Hayes show at Iota yesterday for the matinee. It's a shame he doesn't tour too often.
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Post by: Yada on November 05, 2012, 10:28:40 am
Loved the Meter Men last night... Zigaboo and Porter are probably my favorite rhythm section.. that shit is tight... definitely a bucket list show.. for those that don't know Art Neville was not with them on keys and instead Page McConnel of Phish played with them on the four night tour

Most of the people there came to see Page I think but he knew he was the luckiest guy there and he talked about it..

Got there about 8:18 and they were on... advertised as 8 pm show... i think they'd just started.... the first sent went on til somewhere around 9:30.. then they took a long break.. kind of like a Phish show i guess. and came back on probably past 10 and played til close to midnight.. it was a long show..there was the GO VOTE, the  tribute to the Howard and how glad they were to be playing it as they never had before and all the history yada yada, a Romney diss, etc..

Highlights were two or three Meters instrumentals ffrom the first album (Cissy Strut? I never can keep them straight) which they jammed out to 12 or more minute versions... ended first set with Africa which went on forever and ever... it was "that shit is sick" version... second set was less my bag but a very nice Hey Pocky Way and they ended the second set with a great It Ain't no use which also went on for about 15 minutes introduced by Leo Nocentelli soloing for about 2-3 minutes.... they then took a real short break..shook hands with crowd, George Porter thanked the crowd.. and they played one more tune which Im' forgetting title (from Rejuvenation which is my favortie album and I think they played five tracks from that)...


.had to drive home and boy were there a lot of drunk kids driving around Golden Triangle on Rhode Island/Conn Ave... sad.

one for the record books and i'm glad i made it out.. oh one thing about Howard.. on the $$35 ticket i bought at door they tacked on $7.50 in charges... talk about bullshit.. why say ts $35 if you can't ever buy it for less... beer prices at howard are almost standard bar prices so thats nice.

Agreed... completely awesome show. Leo is a little boring on the guitar but as you said, the rythmn section is one of the best ever. They definitely ripped through their "greatest" hits and played some lesser known "deep cuts", thanks to Page actually who requested they learn some of their old tunes rather than play a few Phish songs.

First time at the Howard, really cool spot... Gorgeous theatre, great sound, a TON of room on the floor. Service was awful for food/drinks upstairs prior to the show, but I'd say that's pretty much expected. Lots and lots of white people there!

I will be back.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 05, 2012, 10:32:59 am
maybe that is why the service is so bad . . . too many white people.  they ruin everything.
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Post by: Yada on November 05, 2012, 10:42:50 am
maybe that is why the service is so bad . . . too many white people.  they ruin everything.

racist.
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Post by: hutch on November 05, 2012, 11:47:59 am
The Howard has excellent sight lines and sound.. that is a big plus.
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Post by: Yada on November 05, 2012, 12:03:44 pm
The Howard has excellent sight lines and sound.. that is a big plus.

Indeed... not a bad seat in the house. I was told that normally the floor has high top tables which I guess could be a bit annoying depending on the act.
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Post by: notme on November 05, 2012, 03:06:41 pm
howard has 3 stacks of pa speakers.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 06, 2012, 09:05:05 am
Pre-Show banter:  I can't believe Social D still draws like they do.  The show I saw at Rams Head a few years ago was pretty slick/polished.....and pretty boring.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 06, 2012, 09:21:54 am
social d is like neil young.

you can listen to a song from yesterday or a song from twenty years ago . . . it is the same song.
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Post by: Relaxer on November 06, 2012, 10:29:23 am
Neil Young plays the same song over and over decade after decade? So Trans, Freedom, Ragged Glory, Harvest Moon, Greendale, Le Noise, and most recently Psychedelic Pill all sound the same?

Follow-up question: Do you think about asinine comments like these before you post them or do they fly out your butt and go immediately onto the screen?
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 06, 2012, 11:57:29 am
from live rust:

some guy from the audience - "it all sounds the same"

neil - "its all the same song"


flying out of my butt . . . is my speciality.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 06, 2012, 11:58:46 am
and yes . . . social d does sound the same forever.  no arguement  there.

take that from my butt.
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Post by: James Ford on November 06, 2012, 12:07:20 pm
Mommy's Little Monster was alot of fun. But agreed, after that they've basically been putting out the same album.
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Post by: hutch on November 06, 2012, 12:12:51 pm
Who cares? If the album is a good one who cares if they keep doing it over again


Look at AC/DC

This "pitchforkian" need for people to evolve and change... I just don't get it... so many bands fall prey to this idea, change up their winning sound and end up with a turkey.

Having said that I think Neil Young changes it up more than most... and better than most... I say that as a non-fan.. something about his wheedy voice I cannot stand... but you can't compare his Crazy Horse shit to his more acoustic stuff..its very different.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on November 06, 2012, 12:39:34 pm
Totally disagree about Social D. Since when did having a consistent sound become a cardinal sin? Seems to be working really well with their fans given that they've been around for 33 years and both shows in DC are sold out. If they were so boring and samey, then they would have stopped being able to tour a long time ago.  A band sounding like they're not trying to be something they're not will likely do just fine if the songwriting is there, and Social D has a signature style for sure. But they still manage to vary it. I saw them once start a show "unplugged" with an upright bass and acoustic guitars and it still sounded bad-ass. Regardless, consistency is not always boring if a band is secure with who they are and what they want to be.
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Post by: atomicfront on November 06, 2012, 03:26:44 pm
Neil Young plays the same song over and over decade after decade? So Trans, Freedom, Ragged Glory, Harvest Moon, Greendale, Le Noise, and most recently Psychedelic Pill all sound the same?

Follow-up question: Do you think about asinine comments like these before you post them or do they fly out your butt and go immediately onto the screen?

His live shows are the worst though.  He should stick to his stuff from the early 70's.  His stuff since then is awful.
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Post by: Relaxer on November 06, 2012, 05:16:28 pm
Well that usually means "I haven't listened to any of his stuff beyond the early 70s"

He's put out some crap but he's also put out some incredibly good albums such as Tonights the Night, Zuma, Comes a Time, Rust Never Sleeps, Weld, Harvest Moon, Ragged Gory, Freedom, Living with War, Chrome Dreams II and the just released Psychedelic Pill.

But yeah! Other than alllll of those classic, beloved albums, and probably several more, everything since the early 70s has been awful.
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Post by: Yada on November 06, 2012, 05:22:20 pm
Neil Young plays the same song over and over decade after decade? So Trans, Freedom, Ragged Glory, Harvest Moon, Greendale, Le Noise, and most recently Psychedelic Pill all sound the same?

Follow-up question: Do you think about asinine comments like these before you post them or do they fly out your butt and go immediately onto the screen?

His live shows are the worst though.  He should stick to his stuff from the early 70's.  His stuff since then is awful.

"Things were better when I was young."--every old fart ever
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Post by: atomicfront on November 06, 2012, 06:41:28 pm
Neil Young plays the same song over and over decade after decade? So Trans, Freedom, Ragged Glory, Harvest Moon, Greendale, Le Noise, and most recently Psychedelic Pill all sound the same?

Follow-up question: Do you think about asinine comments like these before you post them or do they fly out your butt and go immediately onto the screen?

His live shows are the worst though.  He should stick to his stuff from the early 70's.  His stuff since then is awful.

"Things were better when I was young."--every old fart ever

Actually I listen to new music.  THe old farts are the ones listening to the stuff Neil has put out since the 70's and are too old to realize it is pretty god-awful.

Most guys once they hit mid 30's can't do anything worth listening to.  I guess you find a guy like Johnny Cash once a generation that can do something spectacular later in life. 

Old farts are the guys on here praising Jesus and Mary Chain shows and "Smashing Pumpkin" gigs. 

I will be at the of Monsters and Men, Jens Lekman, and Warpaint shows you can have your old fart music.
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Post by: atomicfront on November 06, 2012, 06:48:42 pm
Well that usually means "I haven't listened to any of his stuff beyond the early 70s"

He's put out some crap but he's also put out some incredibly good albums such as Tonights the Night, Zuma, Comes a Time, Rust Never Sleeps, Weld, Harvest Moon, Ragged Gory, Freedom, Living with War, Chrome Dreams II and the just released Psychedelic Pill.

But yeah! Other than alllll of those classic, beloved albums, and probably several more, everything since the early 70s has been awful.

I have only listeded to Freedom, Hawks and Doves, and Trans since the 70's. I  have heard other songs though.  None of which I cared for at all.  Neil has been doing what Lou Reed has been doing since he put out "transformer". putting out bad music and putting on annoying live shows
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Post by: hutch on November 06, 2012, 06:58:53 pm
GET OFF MY LAWN KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post by: atomicfront on November 06, 2012, 07:06:45 pm
GET OFF MY LAWN KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I am sure the average age of a person at a neil young or bruce springsteen or any of the other out of date music you love is much older than me. 
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Post by: hutch on November 06, 2012, 07:14:38 pm
GET OFF MY LAWN KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I am sure the average age of a person at a neil young or bruce springsteen or any of the other out of date music you love is much older than me. 

I don't even like Neil Young dude.. I did think Living with war was pretty ballsy and I own it.


Thing is I can recognize talent without having to like it.. I don't have to think that because I don't like it that it sucks or something...

THAT's the difference between you and me you see....well at least one of them...
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Post by: atomicfront on November 07, 2012, 03:31:20 pm
GET OFF MY LAWN KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I am sure the average age of a person at a neil young or bruce springsteen or any of the other out of date music you love is much older than me. 

I don't even like Neil Young dude.. I did think Living with war was pretty ballsy and I own it.


Thing is I can recognize talent without having to like it.. I don't have to think that because I don't like it that it sucks or something...

THAT's the difference between you and me you see....well at least one of them...

difference between me and you is that you continue to like artists after they stop putting out good music.  You probably have the same hairstyle you had in highschool too.
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Post by: hutch on November 07, 2012, 03:38:44 pm
GET OFF MY LAWN KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I am sure the average age of a person at a neil young or bruce springsteen or any of the other out of date music you love is much older than me. 

I don't even like Neil Young dude.. I did think Living with war was pretty ballsy and I own it.


Thing is I can recognize talent without having to like it.. I don't have to think that because I don't like it that it sucks or something...

THAT's the difference between you and me you see....well at least one of them...

difference between me and you is that you continue to like artists after they stop putting out good music.  You probably have the same hairstyle you had in highschool too.

Well I do have the same hair.. see I'm not balding. another difference between you and me.

If an artist gets older I don't say "Oh they're older so they must suck now" like you do.. I give the music a chance... if it works it works....irrespective of age.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 07, 2012, 03:41:42 pm
you see now my dear relaxer, why i say the things i do . . . it leads to this.
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Post by: Relaxer on November 07, 2012, 04:29:05 pm
Yeah but this is actually somewhat interesting.
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Post by: Relaxer on November 07, 2012, 04:29:58 pm
It's like watching two handicapped people, who fell out of their wheelchairs, wrestle awkwardly on the ground.
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Post by: hutch on November 07, 2012, 04:56:58 pm
It's like watching two handicapped people, who fell out of their wheelchairs, wrestle awkwardly on the ground.

sadist  :D
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Post by: atomicfront on November 07, 2012, 05:42:33 pm
GET OFF MY LAWN KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I am sure the average age of a person at a neil young or bruce springsteen or any of the other out of date music you love is much older than me. 

I don't even like Neil Young dude.. I did think Living with war was pretty ballsy and I own it.


Thing is I can recognize talent without having to like it.. I don't have to think that because I don't like it that it sucks or something...

THAT's the difference between you and me you see....well at least one of them...

difference between me and you is that you continue to like artists after they stop putting out good music.  You probably have the same hairstyle you had in highschool too.

Well I do have the same hair.. see I'm not balding. another difference between you and me.

If an artist gets older I don't say "Oh they're older so they must suck now" like you do.. I give the music a chance... if it works it works....irrespective of age.

Actually I saw Pete Seeger perform at 92 and he was pretty awesome.  But when I saw Neil Young a few years back and he sucked.    I guess there is also a difference between the two.  Pete is playing for the audience.  Neil is playing for himself.
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Post by: atomicfront on November 07, 2012, 05:44:22 pm
GET OFF MY LAWN KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I am sure the average age of a person at a neil young or bruce springsteen or any of the other out of date music you love is much older than me. 

I don't even like Neil Young dude.. I did think Living with war was pretty ballsy and I own it.


Thing is I can recognize talent without having to like it.. I don't have to think that because I don't like it that it sucks or something...

THAT's the difference between you and me you see....well at least one of them...

difference between me and you is that you continue to like artists after they stop putting out good music.  You probably have the same hairstyle you had in highschool too.

Well I do have the same hair.. see I'm not balding. another difference between you and me.

If an artist gets older I don't say "Oh they're older so they must suck now" like you do.. I give the music a chance... if it works it works....irrespective of age.

Oh you have no idea about my hair.  But let me guess about you.  You are about 5' 6" and have dark hair and are portly.
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Post by: hutch on November 07, 2012, 05:47:52 pm
GET OFF MY LAWN KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I am sure the average age of a person at a neil young or bruce springsteen or any of the other out of date music you love is much older than me. 

I don't even like Neil Young dude.. I did think Living with war was pretty ballsy and I own it.


Thing is I can recognize talent without having to like it.. I don't have to think that because I don't like it that it sucks or something...

THAT's the difference between you and me you see....well at least one of them...

difference between me and you is that you continue to like artists after they stop putting out good music.  You probably have the same hairstyle you had in highschool too.

Well I do have the same hair.. see I'm not balding. another difference between you and me.

If an artist gets older I don't say "Oh they're older so they must suck now" like you do.. I give the music a chance... if it works it works....irrespective of age.

Oh you have no idea about my hair.  But let me guess about you.  You are about 5' 6" and have dark hair and are portly.

I've posted a picture of myself on this forum, baldie....so I ain't just saying you're full of shit.

You're full of shit.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 07, 2012, 05:49:24 pm
you did hutch?

i bet you are hot.

yeah . . . fucking hottt.
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Post by: chaz on November 07, 2012, 06:02:28 pm
Some of you people are dicks.
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Post by: atomicfront on November 07, 2012, 06:15:35 pm
GET OFF MY LAWN KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




I am sure the average age of a person at a neil young or bruce springsteen or any of the other out of date music you love is much older than me. 

I don't even like Neil Young dude.. I did think Living with war was pretty ballsy and I own it.


Thing is I can recognize talent without having to like it.. I don't have to think that because I don't like it that it sucks or something...

THAT's the difference between you and me you see....well at least one of them...

difference between me and you is that you continue to like artists after they stop putting out good music.  You probably have the same hairstyle you had in highschool too.

Well I do have the same hair.. see I'm not balding. another difference between you and me.

If an artist gets older I don't say "Oh they're older so they must suck now" like you do.. I give the music a chance... if it works it works....irrespective of age.

Oh you have no idea about my hair.  But let me guess about you.  You are about 5' 6" and have dark hair and are portly.

I've posted a picture of myself on this forum, baldie....so I ain't just saying you're full of shit.

You're full of shit.

link or it isn't true. and i am not bald i have long hair dipshit. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on November 07, 2012, 06:21:07 pm
from atomicfront's facebook page

(http://media.spokesman.com/photos/2008/11/26/eddierayhall_11-26-2008_RMENP0D.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on November 07, 2012, 06:40:53 pm
from atomicfront's facebook page

(http://media.spokesman.com/photos/2008/11/26/eddierayhall_11-26-2008_RMENP0D.jpg)

Actually I like that tough guy look.  But I am a blonde. 

Here is a better photo of the dude:
(http://media.spokesman.com/photos/2004/10/10/cit_10eddie_10-10-2004_0O2P39P.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: stevewizzle on November 10, 2012, 11:53:52 am
gary clark jr last night...

holy shit.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 10, 2012, 04:46:55 pm
So the Neil Young thing started here. Yada, in case you missed it in the MBV thread, my bad. The reference definitely went way over my head because this is my first time opening this thread in almost a month.

Eternal Summers last night were very good. The new stuff was both noisy and poppy. They played all the highlights from the most recent album as well. They will sound so huge at 930 when they open for Nada Surf. Fang Island were not my bag but were still enjoyable. Too much of that Andrew W.K. vibe for me to really get into them. Sun Club were alright but their influences were entirely too obvious. And those WVAU kids know how to efficiently run a gig. This was my second show at AU and second time being thoroughly impressed. They do a better job than most DIY spots and some clubs (Blowtel and Velvet in particular). They also used an excellent sounding room last night.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Relaxer on November 10, 2012, 07:39:42 pm
Well I am now interested in Fang Island and am going to check out their stuff.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: wml7 on November 11, 2012, 12:44:59 am
Pretty interesting place for The Joy Formidable show tonight.  The sound was pretty good and no drunk frat bros crowd surfing.  I had to snort a line of coke off the floor before I left.  The metro ride is longer then the show with all the construction going on.
 ;D
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on December 03, 2012, 04:22:05 pm
The Neil Young show had about as much energy as a rest home pizza party (this should give atomicfront some good ammo).  Other than the folks on the floor, I think the entire building was sitting.

The band was good, but I think half the folks there were expecting Neil with an acoustic and a harmonica, not a show where the average song length was 12 minutes.

I'll put the Patriot Center up there with DAR as another place I never want to visit again.

Did anyone check out Gener aka Aaron Freeman?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on December 03, 2012, 04:46:16 pm
The Neil Young show had about as much energy as a rest home pizza party (this should give atomicfront some good ammo).  Other than the folks on the floor, I think the entire building was sitting.

The band was good, but I think half the folks there were expecting Neil with an acoustic and a harmonica, not a show where the average song length was 12 minutes.

I'll put the Patriot Center up there with DAR as another place I never want to visit again.

Did anyone check out Gener aka Aaron Freeman?

I did see the Patti Smith show on Saturday Night and the crowd was composed mostly of AARP members.  Suprisingly it was my wife who wanted to go and she is 13 years younger than me.  So go figure. Anyway the show wasn't bad.  They played pretty well for a nostalgia act.  And after the previous nostalgia acts I had seen (Jesus and mary chain + sisters of mercy) i wasn't expecting much.  The old folks there did seem to get into it.  So not really complaining about the crowd.

I probably only knew 5 or 6 songs that she did as I only have the albums from the 70's but the crowd seemed to know most of her setlist. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on February 01, 2013, 01:01:55 pm
lol@lumineers

The Lumineers: More boring than rousing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/the-lumineers-more-boring-than-rousing/2013/01/31/e8dbdf9e-6b95-11e2-ada0-5ca5fa7ebe79_story.html
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Post by: chaz on February 01, 2013, 01:34:45 pm
lol@lumineers

The Lumineers: More boring than rousing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/the-lumineers-more-boring-than-rousing/2013/01/31/e8dbdf9e-6b95-11e2-ada0-5ca5fa7ebe79_story.html

Classic:

"His drumming (uninventive) and his demeanor (needy) signaled a man averse to risk ? a hunch all but confirmed by the fact that he wore suspenders and a belt."

A pretty rough review.
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Post by: vansmack on February 01, 2013, 02:22:10 pm
I only care about what David Malitz has to say about DC shows.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on February 01, 2013, 04:46:22 pm
How great was that Ty Segall/Ex-Cult/Roomrunner gig?


Took me a little while to get into Ex-Cult but I did enjoy the second half of the set.
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Post by: killsaly on February 01, 2013, 05:16:05 pm
The Quicksand show was a lot of fun.  The band sounded great, I finally got to hang with Joe, and for most of the time I had a good view.  The center was way into slam dancing, and for some reason it was a bunch of huge dudes, and I got on the edge somehow.  I only watched half the show up there until i was punched, shoved and kicked way too much.  I watched a song from the back, one from the side, and then was able to make my way back up front for the last 20 minutes of their 90 minute set.  A++++++ Ive been a huge fan since I randomly discovered them 20 or so years ago, and I was glad I was finally able to see them.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2013, 11:12:01 am
lol@lumineers

The Lumineers: More boring than rousing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/the-lumineers-more-boring-than-rousing/2013/01/31/e8dbdf9e-6b95-11e2-ada0-5ca5fa7ebe79_story.html

"We lust after bands playing old-timey instruments the same way we lust after vintage clothing, craft beer and exposed-filament light bulbs."

i resent having craft beer associated in any way with that band.
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Post by: atomicfront on February 04, 2013, 11:38:27 am
lol@lumineers

The Lumineers: More boring than rousing

http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/the-lumineers-more-boring-than-rousing/2013/01/31/e8dbdf9e-6b95-11e2-ada0-5ca5fa7ebe79_story.html

"We lust after bands playing old-timey instruments the same way we lust after vintage clothing, craft beer and exposed-filament light bulbs."

i resent having craft beer associated in any way with that band.

You are lame.  And this is the post-show banter thread.  Pretty hard to have post show banter about a show you didn't even attend.   
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2013, 11:51:19 am
You are lame.  And this is the post-show banter thread.  Pretty hard to have post show banter about a show you didn't even attend.  

aww, is lil' atomicfrontie mad because someone insulted his fav band in the whole wide world?  there there... <pats on head>  you just ignore those big mean ol' meanies...

(p.s. if relevance and knowledge were prerequisites for posting in a thread, your post count would be zero).
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on February 04, 2013, 12:50:24 pm
You are lame.  And this is the post-show banter thread.  Pretty hard to have post show banter about a show you didn't even attend.  

aww, is lil' atomicfrontie mad because someone insulted his fav band in the whole wide world?  there there... <pats on head>  you just ignore those big mean ol' meanies...

(p.s. if relevance and knowledge were prerequisites for posting in a thread, your post count would be zero).

They aren't my favorite band. Not even in my top 50.  But the fact that you have a bunch of morons on this threads reviewing a show they didn't attend is beyond stupid.  Ok we know pitchfork didn't give them a good review so you don't like them.  But geez do you have to go on and on about it.  We get it.  You were never popular in your life so you take it out on things that are popular. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: sweetcell on February 04, 2013, 12:53:59 pm
But the fact that you have a bunch of morons on this threads reviewing a show they didn't attend is beyond stupid. 

since reading comprehension isn't your forte, i'll give you some help: i didn't review the show.  i commented about the association made with craft beer.  t'was an on-topic jab.   you're welcome.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on February 04, 2013, 01:00:32 pm
I heard a Lumineers song on the radio yesterday.. it was absolutely craptastic.... like bad Dave Matthews and Dave Matthews is pretty bad..

I dont think it was their "hit" as it didn't have a hey ho or what have you part... the lyrics were something like "I need you" or some crap like that...I put it out of mind

when they were done playing it the DJ did a plug for Merriwether show...probably  paid for by IMP.
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Post by: hutch on February 04, 2013, 01:15:02 pm
holy fuck.. i just looked up on google and i guess that was their big hit... it didn't' go i need you i guess but i belong to you..


horrible.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 04, 2013, 01:16:25 pm
Goddamnit is every thread an argument with Atomicfront now?
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Post by: killsaly on February 04, 2013, 01:20:35 pm
I usually ignore him.  I made the mistake of replying to him once.  Never again.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on February 04, 2013, 01:29:21 pm
I've largely ignored him for the past few weeks..unfortunately him and ratbastard are killing this forum for me.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on February 04, 2013, 01:35:37 pm
I've largely ignored him for the past few weeks..unfortunately him and ratbastard are killing this forum for me.

I thought you were killing the forum.   As you don't see any bands who have been relevant in the past 25 years and your constant simplistic political views.  You and Ratbastard are quite similar politically.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on February 15, 2013, 10:30:06 am
Am I going to get slammed for bringing my five year old to a Cody Chesnutt show at the Hamilton on Valentine's Day on a school night? She ended up losing maybe 45 mins of sleep.

Cody was very good. Didn?t play any of the old stuff, which was fine because the only song I remember is the one the Roots reworked.. Changed the arrangements to much of the new stuff, which was cool. Though he didn?t have a horn section?.boo. Table service was terrible, food was good, not great. A pitcher of Heavy Seas Loose Cannon was $24, probably a lot cheaper than buying the equivalent of that amount at a 9:30 show. My wife enjoyed the show, my daughter tolerated it tolerated it (the pizza and cake helped), until she fell asleep at the table midway through Cody?s set. However, before falling asleep, she did write a Valentine?s poem (on her own, unprompted):

Choklit is brown
I (symbol for heart) u!
The more you eat
The more you poo
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 20, 2013, 11:38:48 am
Since I'm the only person who participates in this thread, I'll bump it.

Saw Rancid last night, holy shit it was awesome. I admittedly haven't been to a punk rock show in at least 10 years, but they completely ripped.

I also haven't listened to a new album of theirs since probably 2000, but I liked most of the new (er) material.

The moshing was bonkers.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 20, 2013, 12:21:40 pm
stones in phily was good... highlight for me was the rambler with mick taylor...real nice... also dead flowers..

almost surely going to pass on the dc show now...

i have to say i'm not sure if keith is even playing most of the time.. to me the whole show seems designed to cover up for the fact he is pretty much done...a lot of smiling on his part but the heavy lifting was done by ronnie....
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on June 20, 2013, 12:23:48 pm
stones in phily was good... highlight for me was the rambler with mick taylor...real nice... also dead flowers..

almost surely going to pass on the dc show now...

i have to say i'm not sure if keith is even playing most of the time.. to me the whole show seems designed to cover up for the fact he is pretty much done...a lot of smiling on his part but the heavy lifting was done by ronnie....

I think he has been done for 30 years.  Anyway you paid for a Stones show but you are complaining about the cost of the Franz Ferdinand show? 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 20, 2013, 12:38:37 pm
stones in phily was good... highlight for me was the rambler with mick taylor...real nice... also dead flowers..

almost surely going to pass on the dc show now...

i have to say i'm not sure if keith is even playing most of the time.. to me the whole show seems designed to cover up for the fact he is pretty much done...a lot of smiling on his part but the heavy lifting was done by ronnie....

I think he has been done for 30 years.  Anyway you paid for a Stones show but you are complaining about the cost of the Franz Ferdinand show? 

stones shows cost the same in philly and dc ...$85 all in.. pretty close to franz ferdinand's jacked up dc price.. not sure how much franz is when you factor fees.. could be close to $70
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on June 20, 2013, 12:42:07 pm
The venues the Stone are playing in are more intimate and better sound quality, so those things alone would justify the higher prices, right?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 20, 2013, 12:47:11 pm
The venues the Stone are playing in are more intimate and better sound quality, so those things alone would justify the higher prices, right?

umm.. I know you didn't have a chance to go to college (I really do hope you are saving up for your kids seeing how they're not going the scholarship route... we're rooting for you guys to get a college educated person in the family) but its called supply and demand.. look it up sometime..

you see, if a lot of people want to see you they pay more money and the venues get bigger... now if you're gary louris, yeah, well you'll be at jammin' java next year
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on June 20, 2013, 01:07:45 pm
Sorry, would rather give my $25 to a locally owned club with talented performers than $85 to a venue with a corporate name hosting multi-millionaires. That leaves $60 for the college fund and good beer funds!

And my kid's white. Of course she's not going to get any scholarships.


The venues the Stone are playing in are more intimate and better sound quality, so those things alone would justify the higher prices, right?

umm.. I know you didn't have a chance to go to college (I really do hope you are saving up for your kids seeing how they're not going the scholarship route... we're rooting for you guys to get a college educated person in the family) but its called supply and demand.. look it up sometime..

you see, if a lot of people want to see you they pay more money and the venues get bigger... now if you're gary louris, yeah, well you'll be at jammin' java next year
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 20, 2013, 01:13:57 pm
Sorry, would rather give my $25 to a locally owned club with talented performers than $85 to a venue with a corporate name hosting multi-millionaires. That leaves $60 for the college fund and good beer funds!

And my kid's white. Of course she's not going to get any scholarships.


The venues the Stone are playing in are more intimate and better sound quality, so those things alone would justify the higher prices, right?

umm.. I know you didn't have a chance to go to college (I really do hope you are saving up for your kids seeing how they're not going the scholarship route... we're rooting for you guys to get a college educated person in the family) but its called supply and demand.. look it up sometime..

you see, if a lot of people want to see you they pay more money and the venues get bigger... now if you're gary louris, yeah, well you'll be at jammin' java next year

talented performers? most of the time they have hacks

i wish jammin java had great shows... i'm not too far... but they only have something decent every few months and on ocassion when they do they charge $45 (Dement)...wtf.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 20, 2013, 01:16:25 pm
Sorry, would rather give my $25 to a locally owned club with talented performers than $85 to a venue with a corporate name hosting multi-millionaires. That leaves $60 for the college fund and good beer funds!

And my kid's white. Of course she's not going to get any scholarships.


The venues the Stone are playing in are more intimate and better sound quality, so those things alone would justify the higher prices, right?

umm.. I know you didn't have a chance to go to college (I really do hope you are saving up for your kids seeing how they're not going the scholarship route... we're rooting for you guys to get a college educated person in the family) but its called supply and demand.. look it up sometime..

you see, if a lot of people want to see you they pay more money and the venues get bigger... now if you're gary louris, yeah, well you'll be at jammin' java next year

Lies, you've never paid $25 for a concert ticket!
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: stevewizzle on June 20, 2013, 02:21:54 pm
And my kid's white. Of course she's not going to get any scholarships.

no (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=134623124)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on June 20, 2013, 02:40:23 pm
stones in phily was good... highlight for me was the rambler with mick taylor...real nice... also dead flowers..

almost surely going to pass on the dc show now...

i have to say i'm not sure if keith is even playing most of the time.. to me the whole show seems designed to cover up for the fact he is pretty much done...a lot of smiling on his part but the heavy lifting was done by ronnie....

I think he has been done for 30 years.  Anyway you paid for a Stones show but you are complaining about the cost of the Franz Ferdinand show? 

stones shows cost the same in philly and dc ...$85 all in.. pretty close to franz ferdinand's jacked up dc price.. not sure how much franz is when you factor fees.. could be close to $70

Oh I thought you said you paid 625 dollars for the ticket. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on June 20, 2013, 05:08:06 pm
Interesting statistic, but when you factor in the (much higher) minority dropout rate as well as the (higher) percentages who don't go to college...that would probably tell the whole story....


Then again, of kids under 6 right now, 49.9% are "minority". So that term is soon to be obsolete anyway.


 In fact, they are less likely to receive college scholarships. And they represent about a third of the applicants, but only about 28 percent of the recipients. Caucasian students receive 72 percent of all scholarships. Minority students receive only 28 percent of all scholarships.

And my kid's white. Of course she's not going to get any scholarships.

no (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=134623124)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on June 20, 2013, 05:17:49 pm
Interesting statistic, but when you factor in the (much higher) minority dropout rate as well as the (higher) percentages who don't go to college...that would probably tell the whole story....


Then again, of kids under 6 right now, 49.9% are "minority". So that term is soon to be obsolete anyway.


 In fact, they are less likely to receive college scholarships. And they represent about a third of the applicants, but only about 28 percent of the recipients. Caucasian students receive 72 percent of all scholarships. Minority students receive only 28 percent of all scholarships.

And my kid's white. Of course she's not going to get any scholarships.

no (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=134623124)

Why do asian minorities have no problems getting good grades and scoring well on standardized tests?  I like how colleges don't give help to asian minorities on admittance yet they do on other minorities.  That should be illegal. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 20, 2013, 05:26:57 pm
americans want everything given to them without having to work for it.  thats why americans are so jealous of people who have made it and are doing fine.  they want that type of comfortablity given to them.  and it all starts with school.  i think students should be forced to get jobs and balance real life work while getting their education, instead of scholarships.  hands out are hands out, no matter how you label them.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on June 20, 2013, 05:30:54 pm
americans want everything given to them without having to work for it.  thats why americans are so jealous of people who have made it and are doing fine.  they want that type of comfortablity given to them.  and it all starts with school.  i think students should be forced to get jobs and balance real life work while getting their education, instead of scholarships.  hands out are hands out, no matter how you label them.

I worked when I went to school.  30 hours a week at least while going full-time.  Got two bachelor degree and owed zero dollars.  I don't think merit based scholarships make you lazy.  But student loans are terrible ideas. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on June 20, 2013, 05:40:13 pm
I think we've already had the cost of college now vs. cost of college 25-30 years ago when you and I went to college discussion.

I'm grateful my parents paid for my bachelor's education (in-state tuition), a scholarship (and a 30 hour a week job)partially paid for my first master's degree, and my employer (you, the taxpayer) paid for my second master's.

And none of that made me lazy. If I'm lazy about anything, it's blue collar grunt work. Grew up on a dairy farm, and don't care to do any more physical labor the rest of my life. Other than running marathons.


americans want everything given to them without having to work for it.  thats why americans are so jealous of people who have made it and are doing fine.  they want that type of comfortablity given to them.  and it all starts with school.  i think students should be forced to get jobs and balance real life work while getting their education, instead of scholarships.  hands out are hands out, no matter how you label them.

I worked when I went to school.  30 hours a week at least while going full-time.  Got two bachelor degree and owed zero dollars.  I don't think merit based scholarships make you lazy.  But student loans are terrible ideas. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: stevewizzle on June 20, 2013, 06:02:47 pm
Interesting statistic, but when you factor in the (much higher) minority dropout rate as well as the (higher) percentages who don't go to college...that would probably tell the whole story....

Then again, of kids under 6 right now, 49.9% are "minority". So that term is soon to be obsolete anyway.

 In fact, they are less likely to receive college scholarships. And they represent about a third of the applicants, but only about 28 percent of the recipients. Caucasian students receive 72 percent of all scholarships. Minority students receive only 28 percent of all scholarships.

And my kid's white. Of course she's not going to get any scholarships.

no (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=134623124)

fair enough. the real problem for your good beer fund is scholarships tend to be spread throughout, and school prices continue to rise. federal grants though? the poor people get those, and no one else.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 20, 2013, 09:15:52 pm
the whole system is majorly fucked... the college raises its price double the rate of inflation-->government increases the loan amounts-->the college raises its price double the rate of inflation and so on and on and it goes on forever

the answer , contrary to what the president seems to think is not more loans...or lower interest rates on loans... cause colleges then just figure they can raise their cost.... that's what has been going on since the 1980s...and it aint working
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on June 22, 2013, 10:30:12 am
All kinds of dwight trash at the Club last night.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 23, 2013, 11:56:58 pm
smokin' buddy guy show... this was a special one for me.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: mekmad on June 24, 2013, 12:01:01 am
smokin' buddy guy show... this was a special one for me.

My guess is Buddy Guy is the special guest for the Stones on Monday.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Bombay Chutney on June 24, 2013, 07:30:13 am
smokin' buddy guy show... this was a special one for me.

My guess is Buddy Guy is the special guest for the Stones on Monday.

Oh, that would be nice!
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 24, 2013, 10:09:01 am
smokin' buddy guy show... this was a special one for me.

My guess is Buddy Guy is the special guest for the Stones on Monday.

Oh, that would be nice!

for sure.. he has a few days before next show and i think he organized the state theatre show simply to take advantage of the fact he'd be in town for the Stones show...


Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 30, 2013, 03:03:06 pm
I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip

Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on July 01, 2013, 12:47:34 am
I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 01, 2013, 06:13:23 am
Why did the Lumineers cross the road?

To get to the middle.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on July 01, 2013, 08:16:42 am
I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.

If they were the Coors Light of rock bands, you'd find them absolutely amazing, no?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: chaz on July 01, 2013, 09:24:44 am
I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.
I don't really feel one way or the other about either.  But if Wilco are the Coors Light of rock bands then the Lumineers are Water Light.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: shemptiness on July 01, 2013, 09:41:03 am

My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.

Not quite
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: killsaly on July 01, 2013, 09:56:13 am
Locrian... Damn what a show.   I recommend any fan of metal or drone check them out live the next time they roll through.   
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on July 01, 2013, 10:02:55 am
I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.

If they were the Coors Light of rock bands, you'd find them absolutely amazing, no?

No Coors Light tastes like vomit flavored water.  How could that be amazing?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on July 01, 2013, 10:25:17 am
Any music fan with decent taste who's not under 30 or pretending to be would agree that Wilco has 50 songs that are better and more memorable than the Lumineers second best song.


I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on July 01, 2013, 10:52:04 am
Any music fan with decent taste who's not under 30 or pretending to be would agree that Wilco has 50 songs that are better and more memorable than the Lumineers second best song.


I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.

Jeff Tweedy is the worst. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on July 01, 2013, 11:00:28 am
Let me guess...your wife slept with him before meeting you?

Any music fan with decent taste who's not under 30 or pretending to be would agree that Wilco has 50 songs that are better and more memorable than the Lumineers second best song.


I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.

Jeff Tweedy is the worst. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on July 01, 2013, 11:01:50 am
Let me guess...your wife slept with him before meeting you?

Any music fan with decent taste who's not under 30 or pretending to be would agree that Wilco has 50 songs that are better and more memorable than the Lumineers second best song.


I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.

Jeff Tweedy is the worst. 

No.  I hate his music and he is an annoying person like you. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Bagley on July 01, 2013, 11:51:08 am
Any music fan with decent taste who's not under 30 or pretending to be would agree that Wilco has 50 songs that are better and more memorable than the Lumineers second best song.


I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.

Jeff Tweedy is the worst. 

Atomic-

Did you actually check out the all request set list?  Do you realize how much work went in to learning some 50 songs so they could play at least half of them at this show?  I don't there's a band out there that would have attempted this.   (Not to mention changing up their regular lists nightly)
You may not like Tweedy as a person but give him and Wilco some credit as artists.

BTW,  I've seen him since the Uncle Tupelo days and have attended the 3 solid sound festivals.  To me Wilco's more analogous to Hopslam than Coors Light---- a lot of substance, some tart/feisty musings,  followed by a sweet, satisfying finish......
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on July 01, 2013, 11:56:45 am
Any music fan with decent taste who's not under 30 or pretending to be would agree that Wilco has 50 songs that are better and more memorable than the Lumineers second best song.


I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.

Jeff Tweedy is the worst. 

Atomic-

Did you actually check out the all request set list?  Do you realize how much work went in to learning some 50 songs so they could play at least half of them at this show?  I don't there's a band out there that would have attempted this.   (Not to mention changing up their regular lists nightly)
You may not like Tweedy as a person but give him and Wilco some credit as artists.

BTW,  I've seen him since the Uncle Tupelo days and have attended the 3 solid sound festivals.  To me Wilco's more analogous to Hopslam than Coors Light---- a lot of substance, some tart/feisty musings,  followed by a sweet, satisfying finish......

I'm glad they're changing the set lists up....last two shows I saw where pretty similar i thought.....i'm just hoping I dont have to hear heavy metal drummer again...

but seriously the setlists in this americanarama festivval have been pretty cool..

one of my bigger regrets is having e'd right before i saw them at rechers.. they opened with like 6 songs from mermaid avenue 2 but i spaced out....live and learn...

course i'm going for dylan.. wilco happens to be there
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: wml7 on July 01, 2013, 12:04:59 pm
I have to admit I'm not a huge Wilco fan.  I have seen them a couple of times and was like meh.  However, their Bonnaroo set this year was top notch.  I think perhaps a lot of stuff they played was from the new album but it was darker and really guitar heavy.  I'm like holy shit they never sounded like this the other times I've seen them.  I was more then impressed along with a bunch of other people who never seen them before.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on July 01, 2013, 12:14:06 pm
I'm a huge fan of Jay Bennett era Wilco.... don't care for them after... they lost all the fun... they went from a rock and roll band to a prog one..
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: heather on July 01, 2013, 12:37:01 pm
I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Bagley on July 03, 2013, 03:14:58 pm
Any music fan with decent taste who's not under 30 or pretending to be would agree that Wilco has 50 songs that are better and more memorable than the Lumineers second best song.


I can't keep up if the board likes or dislikes Wilco (I think it's dislike minus a few folks). Anyway, here are links to their cover set from last weekend, pretty awesome.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/eunbm763bpm8b36/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_a.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8u5i56881kz4pp9/Wilco_-_6_21_13_cover_set_b.zip



My least favorite band of all time. They are the Coors Light of rock bands.  I think James Ford is the only person on here who likes them.

Jeff Tweedy is the worst. 

Atomic-

Did you actually check out the all request set list?  Do you realize how much work went in to learning some 50 songs so they could play at least half of them at this show?  I don't there's a band out there that would have attempted this.   (Not to mention changing up their regular lists nightly)
You may not like Tweedy as a person but give him and Wilco some credit as artists.

BTW,  I've seen him since the Uncle Tupelo days and have attended the 3 solid sound festivals.  To me Wilco's more analogous to Hopslam than Coors Light---- a lot of substance, some tart/feisty musings,  followed by a sweet, satisfying finish......

I'm glad they're changing the set lists up....last two shows I saw where pretty similar i thought.....i'm just hoping I dont have to hear heavy metal drummer again...

but seriously the setlists in this americanarama festivval have been pretty cool..

one of my bigger regrets is having e'd right before i saw them at rechers.. they opened with like 6 songs from mermaid avenue 2 but i spaced out....live and learn...

course i'm going for dylan.. wilco happens to be there

BTW,  Dylan's playing the same set list every night while Wilco's really mixing it up.

Here's the actual solid sound all request list by Wilco on 6/21


1.
The Boys Are Back in Town 

(Thin Lizzy cover)

2.
Cut Your Hair 

(Pavement cover)

3.
In the Street 

(Big Star cover)

4.
New Madrid 

(Uncle Tupelo cover)

5.
Dead Flowers 

(The Rolling Stones cover)

6.
Simple Twist of Fate 

(Bob Dylan cover)

7.
Ripple 

(Grateful Dead cover)

8.
Who Loves the Sun 

(The Velvet Underground cover)

9.
And Your Bird Can Sing 

(The Beatles cover)

10.
And Your Bird Can Sing 

(The Beatles cover) (And Your Bird Can Sing was ? more)

11.
Psychotic Reaction 

(Count Five cover)

12.
Tom Courtenay 

(Yo La Tengo cover) (with Yo La Tengo)

13.
James Alley Blues 

(Richard Brown cover)

14.
Waterloo Sunset 

(The Kinks cover) (with Lucius)

15.
Waterloo 

(ABBA cover) (with Lucius)

16.
(What's So Funny 'bout) Peace, Love and Understanding 

(Nick Lowe cover)

17.
Marquee Moon 

(Television cover)

18.
Happy Birthday 

(Mildred J. Hill cover) (to Pat Sansone)

19.
(Don't Fear) The Reaper 

(Blue Öyster Cult cover)

20.
Cinnamon Girl 

(Neil Young cover)

21.
Get Lucky 

(Daft Punk cover)

22.
Surrender 

(Cheap Trick cover)

23.
Color Me Impressed 

(The Replacements cover) (with Tommy Stinson)

24.
Kingpin 



25.
Thank You Friends 

(Big Star cover)

Encore:
26.
The Weight 

(The Band cover) (with Lucius)

27.
Roadrunner 

(The Modern Lovers cover) (with Yo La tengo



SICK!!! 

 
 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on July 03, 2013, 03:20:00 pm
yeah i saw that bagley...

honestly, i don't see much to recommend in seeing a band do all covers. i mean the "idea" is nice.. and i guess its nice that you're getting someone nobody else is going to get.. but i'd rather see them play summer teeth or songs from the mermaid avenue cds

they played new madrid yesterday..that woulda been cool
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on July 03, 2013, 03:23:06 pm
I gotta say that Marquee Moon cover is damn near perfect.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on July 03, 2013, 03:26:31 pm
Wilco doing Yo Lo Tengo?  Does it get any worse than that?  As for Dylan if he did covers they would most likely be way worse than the original artist.  Dylan's only strength is his songwriting. I guess since Wilco haven't written anything worthy of listening to it makes sense for them do an all covers set. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on July 03, 2013, 03:29:15 pm
Wilco doing Yo Lo Tengo?  Does it get any worse than that?  As for Dylan if he did covers they would most likely be way worse than the original artist.  Dylan's only strength is his songwriting. I guess since Wilco haven't written anything worthy of listening to it makes sense for them do an all covers set. 

Actually, Yo La Tengo joined them for that song nimrod.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomicfront on July 03, 2013, 03:31:32 pm
Wilco doing Yo Lo Tengo?  Does it get any worse than that?  As for Dylan if he did covers they would most likely be way worse than the original artist.  Dylan's only strength is his songwriting. I guess since Wilco haven't written anything worthy of listening to it makes sense for them do an all covers set. 

Actually, Yo La Tengo joined them for that song nimrod.

Wow the two worst bands of all time on the stage together. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 03, 2013, 06:52:25 pm
i also do not like wilco . . . but why would i care if anybody cared, that i dont care?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 03, 2013, 07:20:29 pm
i also do not like wilco . . . but why would i care if anybody cared, that i dont care?

Great minds think alike :)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Unsanity on August 11, 2013, 01:27:07 pm
Run The Jewels was one long, awesome show. Kool A.D. was pretty spotty though. Should have tried to get Das Racist instead. Don't they owe our area a show? From the start of eXquire to the final bars of "A Christmas Fucking Miracle" that room was electric.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2013, 01:30:10 pm
Hey Yada, is my 2011 list still giving you a chuckle?




James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2013, 01:32:34 pm
We saw the first two acts at the Rosslyn Jazz Fest on Saturday....the Kenny Rittenhouse Septet and Naomi Shelton and the Gospel Queens. Both very good.

My daughter remarked that "Black people sure do like concerts!"...more a reaction to the performers than the mixed crowd, I'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on September 09, 2013, 01:36:03 pm
Hey Yada, is my 2011 list still giving you a chuckle?




James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!

Most likely... link me up or copy paste that monster.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2013, 01:54:31 pm
Here ya go, start chuckling

> 1. Raphael Saadiq-Stone Rollin'
> 2. Wilco- The Whole Love
> 3. Lucinda Williams- Blessed
> 4. Drive By Truckers- Go Go Boots
> 5. Gillian Welch- The Harrow and the Harvest
> 6. Destroyer- Kaputt
> 7. Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit- Here We Rest
> 8. Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues
> 9. Laura Marling- A Creature I Don't Know
> 10. Tom Waits- Bad as Me
> 11. Fountains of Wayne-Sky Full of Holes
> 12. Rebirth Brass Band- Rebirth of New Orleans
> 13. Mayer Hawthorne-How Do You Do
> 14. My Morning Jacket- Circuital
> 15. TV on the Radio- Nine Types of Light
> 16. The Roots- Undun
> 17. Little Dragon- Ritual Union
> 18. Nick Lowe- The Old Magic
> 19. Fatoumata Diawara- Fatou
> 20. Trombone Shorty- For True
>
> Best reissue/compilation: Highlife Time, Volume 2: Nigerian and
> Ghanaian Classics From the Golden Years

Hey Yada, is my 2011 list still giving you a chuckle?




James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!

Most likely... link me up or copy paste that monster.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on September 09, 2013, 02:00:34 pm
How many of those are you still listening to?

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2013, 02:18:25 pm
On average, I listen to about two albums a day. And I probably listen to music from the last 80 years. Which doesn't leave room for me to listen to any album with any regularity. But I'd happily listen to any of them on that list.

That said, within the last year I've probably listened to all of 1-11 and two or three of the others.


How many of those are you still listening to?

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: K8teebug on September 11, 2013, 12:11:52 pm
My husband loved Savages last night.  I am sad I could not be in two places at the same time!
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: stevewizzle on September 11, 2013, 12:19:07 pm
My husband loved Savages last night.  I am sad I could not be in two places at the same time!

i feel like we are always post show bantering about the same shows.

it was good.  holy shit their drummer is good.

my only complaint, because i always have a complaint, is this a band with one album, bringing nothing new to the scene, and having very little connection with their crowd.  drop the pretentious act.  don't make demands from your audience and don't wait 5 minutes to come out for an encore.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: K8teebug on September 11, 2013, 12:47:40 pm
They don't usually perform encores.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomic on September 11, 2013, 12:49:50 pm
Here ya go, start chuckling

> 1. Raphael Saadiq-Stone Rollin'
> 2. Wilco- The Whole Love
> 3. Lucinda Williams- Blessed
> 4. Drive By Truckers- Go Go Boots
> 5. Gillian Welch- The Harrow and the Harvest
> 6. Destroyer- Kaputt
> 7. Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit- Here We Rest
> 8. Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues
> 9. Laura Marling- A Creature I Don't Know
> 10. Tom Waits- Bad as Me
> 11. Fountains of Wayne-Sky Full of Holes
> 12. Rebirth Brass Band- Rebirth of New Orleans
> 13. Mayer Hawthorne-How Do You Do
> 14. My Morning Jacket- Circuital
> 15. TV on the Radio- Nine Types of Light
> 16. The Roots- Undun
> 17. Little Dragon- Ritual Union
> 18. Nick Lowe- The Old Magic
> 19. Fatoumata Diawara- Fatou
> 20. Trombone Shorty- For True
>
> Best reissue/compilation: Highlife Time, Volume 2: Nigerian and
> Ghanaian Classics From the Golden Years

Hey Yada, is my 2011 list still giving you a chuckle?




James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!

Most likely... link me up or copy paste that monster.

The Fleet Foxes and Gillian Welch made my list for that year. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: stevewizzle on September 11, 2013, 12:50:03 pm
They don't usually perform encores.

i'm aware.  they have 11 songs.

either flip the lights immediately, or bask in the encore demand for 1 or 2 minutes and get back out there.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on September 11, 2013, 12:53:13 pm
Here ya go, start chuckling

> 1. Raphael Saadiq-Stone Rollin'
> 2. Wilco- The Whole Love
> 3. Lucinda Williams- Blessed
> 4. Drive By Truckers- Go Go Boots
> 5. Gillian Welch- The Harrow and the Harvest
> 6. Destroyer- Kaputt
> 7. Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit- Here We Rest
> 8. Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues
> 9. Laura Marling- A Creature I Don't Know
> 10. Tom Waits- Bad as Me
> 11. Fountains of Wayne-Sky Full of Holes
> 12. Rebirth Brass Band- Rebirth of New Orleans
> 13. Mayer Hawthorne-How Do You Do
> 14. My Morning Jacket- Circuital
> 15. TV on the Radio- Nine Types of Light
> 16. The Roots- Undun
> 17. Little Dragon- Ritual Union
> 18. Nick Lowe- The Old Magic
> 19. Fatoumata Diawara- Fatou
> 20. Trombone Shorty- For True
>
> Best reissue/compilation: Highlife Time, Volume 2: Nigerian and
> Ghanaian Classics From the Golden Years

Hey Yada, is my 2011 list still giving you a chuckle?




James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!

Most likely... link me up or copy paste that monster.

The Fleet Foxes and Gillian Welch made my list for that year. 

your opinion doesn't count.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomic on September 11, 2013, 01:05:34 pm
Here ya go, start chuckling

> 1. Raphael Saadiq-Stone Rollin'
> 2. Wilco- The Whole Love
> 3. Lucinda Williams- Blessed
> 4. Drive By Truckers- Go Go Boots
> 5. Gillian Welch- The Harrow and the Harvest
> 6. Destroyer- Kaputt
> 7. Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit- Here We Rest
> 8. Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues
> 9. Laura Marling- A Creature I Don't Know
> 10. Tom Waits- Bad as Me
> 11. Fountains of Wayne-Sky Full of Holes
> 12. Rebirth Brass Band- Rebirth of New Orleans
> 13. Mayer Hawthorne-How Do You Do
> 14. My Morning Jacket- Circuital
> 15. TV on the Radio- Nine Types of Light
> 16. The Roots- Undun
> 17. Little Dragon- Ritual Union
> 18. Nick Lowe- The Old Magic
> 19. Fatoumata Diawara- Fatou
> 20. Trombone Shorty- For True
>
> Best reissue/compilation: Highlife Time, Volume 2: Nigerian and
> Ghanaian Classics From the Golden Years

Hey Yada, is my 2011 list still giving you a chuckle?




James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!

Most likely... link me up or copy paste that monster.

The Fleet Foxes and Gillian Welch made my list for that year. 

your opinion doesn't count.

Really you bothered to post that?  Why don't you re-implement your script?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on September 11, 2013, 01:09:14 pm
Here ya go, start chuckling

> 1. Raphael Saadiq-Stone Rollin'
> 2. Wilco- The Whole Love
> 3. Lucinda Williams- Blessed
> 4. Drive By Truckers- Go Go Boots
> 5. Gillian Welch- The Harrow and the Harvest
> 6. Destroyer- Kaputt
> 7. Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit- Here We Rest
> 8. Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues
> 9. Laura Marling- A Creature I Don't Know
> 10. Tom Waits- Bad as Me
> 11. Fountains of Wayne-Sky Full of Holes
> 12. Rebirth Brass Band- Rebirth of New Orleans
> 13. Mayer Hawthorne-How Do You Do
> 14. My Morning Jacket- Circuital
> 15. TV on the Radio- Nine Types of Light
> 16. The Roots- Undun
> 17. Little Dragon- Ritual Union
> 18. Nick Lowe- The Old Magic
> 19. Fatoumata Diawara- Fatou
> 20. Trombone Shorty- For True
>
> Best reissue/compilation: Highlife Time, Volume 2: Nigerian and
> Ghanaian Classics From the Golden Years

Hey Yada, is my 2011 list still giving you a chuckle?




James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!

Most likely... link me up or copy paste that monster.

The Fleet Foxes and Gillian Welch made my list for that year. 

your opinion doesn't count.

Really you bothered to post that?  Why don't you re-implement your script?

I may, I kind of forgot about you for a few weeks when you had your melt down, left the board, and then went on vacation.

We'll see how annoying you get in the next few days.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomic on September 11, 2013, 01:10:19 pm
Here ya go, start chuckling

> 1. Raphael Saadiq-Stone Rollin'
> 2. Wilco- The Whole Love
> 3. Lucinda Williams- Blessed
> 4. Drive By Truckers- Go Go Boots
> 5. Gillian Welch- The Harrow and the Harvest
> 6. Destroyer- Kaputt
> 7. Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit- Here We Rest
> 8. Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues
> 9. Laura Marling- A Creature I Don't Know
> 10. Tom Waits- Bad as Me
> 11. Fountains of Wayne-Sky Full of Holes
> 12. Rebirth Brass Band- Rebirth of New Orleans
> 13. Mayer Hawthorne-How Do You Do
> 14. My Morning Jacket- Circuital
> 15. TV on the Radio- Nine Types of Light
> 16. The Roots- Undun
> 17. Little Dragon- Ritual Union
> 18. Nick Lowe- The Old Magic
> 19. Fatoumata Diawara- Fatou
> 20. Trombone Shorty- For True
>
> Best reissue/compilation: Highlife Time, Volume 2: Nigerian and
> Ghanaian Classics From the Golden Years

Hey Yada, is my 2011 list still giving you a chuckle?




James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!

Most likely... link me up or copy paste that monster.

The Fleet Foxes and Gillian Welch made my list for that year. 

your opinion doesn't count.

Really you bothered to post that?  Why don't you re-implement your script?

I may, I kind of forgot about you for a few weeks when you had your melt down, left the board, and then went on vacation.

We'll see how annoying you get in the next few days.

I didn't have a melt-down.  But I don't see how I could be anymore annoying than you.  Maybe you want to block yourself.
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Post by: Yada on September 11, 2013, 01:13:30 pm
Here ya go, start chuckling

> 1. Raphael Saadiq-Stone Rollin'
> 2. Wilco- The Whole Love
> 3. Lucinda Williams- Blessed
> 4. Drive By Truckers- Go Go Boots
> 5. Gillian Welch- The Harrow and the Harvest
> 6. Destroyer- Kaputt
> 7. Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit- Here We Rest
> 8. Fleet Foxes- Helplessness Blues
> 9. Laura Marling- A Creature I Don't Know
> 10. Tom Waits- Bad as Me
> 11. Fountains of Wayne-Sky Full of Holes
> 12. Rebirth Brass Band- Rebirth of New Orleans
> 13. Mayer Hawthorne-How Do You Do
> 14. My Morning Jacket- Circuital
> 15. TV on the Radio- Nine Types of Light
> 16. The Roots- Undun
> 17. Little Dragon- Ritual Union
> 18. Nick Lowe- The Old Magic
> 19. Fatoumata Diawara- Fatou
> 20. Trombone Shorty- For True
>
> Best reissue/compilation: Highlife Time, Volume 2: Nigerian and
> Ghanaian Classics From the Golden Years

Hey Yada, is my 2011 list still giving you a chuckle?




James, I still get a good chuckle out of your top 20 2011 list. It fits a middle aged white dude to a T!!

Most likely... link me up or copy paste that monster.

The Fleet Foxes and Gillian Welch made my list for that year. 

your opinion doesn't count.

Really you bothered to post that?  Why don't you re-implement your script?

I may, I kind of forgot about you for a few weeks when you had your melt down, left the board, and then went on vacation.

We'll see how annoying you get in the next few days.

I didn't have a melt-down.  But I don't see how I could be anymore annoying than you.  Maybe you want to block yourself.

Yes you did.

 :o
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Post by: K8teebug on September 11, 2013, 01:44:50 pm
They don't usually perform encores.

i'm aware.  they have 11 songs.

either flip the lights immediately, or bask in the encore demand for 1 or 2 minutes and get back out there.

agreed.   
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Post by: showlistdc on September 11, 2013, 02:46:51 pm
I was already well on my way to seeing Richard Youngs at the Black Cat by the time this potential non-encore was happening at the 9:30.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 11, 2013, 03:15:30 pm
Oh you were at that? Guess I missed you. Fun time! Who knew Richard Youngs was such a funny guy?
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Post by: showlistdc on September 11, 2013, 03:27:23 pm
Oh you were at that? Guess I missed you. Fun time! Who knew Richard Youngs was such a funny guy?
Yeah - i saw you across the room but then got so caught up talking to other people after the show that I didn't get a chance to say hi-- so many awesome people there last night!

Here's a video i shot of one of his songs (the really long one) --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJYFcOlnyiA

and yeah, he was definitely a funny guy!
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Post by: Vas Deferens on September 11, 2013, 03:40:13 pm
that's the long song I saw at Hopscotch...
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Post by: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam fan on September 11, 2013, 07:05:55 pm
They don't usually perform encores.

i'm aware.  they have 11 songs.

either flip the lights immediately, or bask in the encore demand for 1 or 2 minutes and get back out there.

You mean they didn't play Watchtower?
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Post by: heather on September 24, 2013, 11:59:54 am
Last night's Okkervil River show was SO good-- best I've seen them.  Were my eyes deceiving me, or was the drummer sporting a Skins t-shirt?
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Post by: killsaly on September 24, 2013, 12:32:25 pm
Last Saturday's Dan Deacon/Future Islands/VideoHippos show was a real treat.  VideoHippos played a fun, short set of tracks, their first set since 2010.  The rain didnt keep anyone away, and by the time i got to the Ottobar (a couple songs into VideoHippos set) the place was already packed.  I watched from the back, and moved towards the front while Future Islands set up. 

Between sets, poetry was read.  It was a benefit show for Ben O'Brien (a Wham City member, poet, video artist, and member of Nuclear Power Pants), who is sick, but I didnt catch what it actually was.  While the poetry was read, hecklers were active.  It was exceedingly disrespectful.  It was so bad the poetry reader (i forget his name) and to stop and confront the women.  They screamed "Why the F#c* is this happening?"  Why is it happening?  Because this is for Ben.  This is to show support.  Show some respect.  Well, the idiots finally got their wish, as Future Islands took the stage. 

This was the third time I saw Future Islands this year (and maybe the 6th time total).  They sounded great (at Hopscotch the mix was horrible and almost everything was drowned out by a too-loud kickdrum) and continued their tradition from this year, playing new songs.  If the crowd had been to the Metro Gallery show this year (an amazing 90 minute set) they would have known what to look forward to, new songs (also a lot of what they did at Hopscotch).  Why new songs?  Because they need to play these songs (currently being mixed in NYC for a new album) in front of live audiences.  Some didn't have names, and all continued the Future Islands tradition of great music.  They only played for around 45 minutes, and left the crowd wanting more (they did throw in a couple of old ones, which of course got the best crowd reactions, but all the old tunes were from In Evening Air (Long Flight, Tinman, and maybe one more) and none from their last, On the Water).  The poet returned, but this time sans hecklers.  It seemed the ladies (and about 20% of the crowd) were only there for Future Islands, and left before Dan Deacon got on the stage. 

With a thinned out crowd, I grabbed one last IPA, and made my way to the stage.  This was the first time I had seen Dan Deacon since Whartscape 2010 (RIP), and this was my first time seeing him solo (the Whartscape set was with the Dan Deacon Ensemble).  Technically, it wasn't him solo, as he had dual drummers (including the VideoHippos drummer and someone else who I didn't recognize); one on either side of Dan's setup.  And then the rocking started.  I was glad a lot of people left, (though it was far from empty) as the energy immediately picked up, and the dancing started.  Dan seemed to mostly be running tracks through a laptop (looked like he was using Live), with the drummers supplying the beat, and his twisted vocals courtesy of two different mics, of which he sometimes used both at once) running through various effects.  The crowd was more than willing to go along with all of the activities.  He split the crowd in the middle and sent out two dance leaders (Lizz King and someone else).  Everyone hit the ground (I refused to kneel because i knew there was broken glass around there, so i squatted) and then mimicked the moves of their dance leaders.  The whole affair had a fun air about it, like it was some kind of weird Disney program catering to Baltimore music nerds.  I captured some great images from it, and need to upload them soon.  This was one of my favorite nights of the year, and I am grateful I was able to get tickets before it sold out.  Not just because it was so much fun, but because I was able to help out with Ben and his medical expenses (none of the musicians took a cut of anything, it was all for Ben). 
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Post by: atomic on September 24, 2013, 01:11:08 pm
That is a good review.  I don't Dan Deacon's recorded work but his live shows are fun.  Future Islands are always amazing live.  "Nuclear Power Pants" is a fun band as well. I am sorry that one of their members is sick.
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Post by: killsaly on September 24, 2013, 01:13:37 pm
Thanks!

I fixed the name, I wrote this really quickly during my lunch break.
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Post by: Yada on September 30, 2013, 10:20:19 am
I know it's not too cool to like singer song writers on this here board... but if anyone can name a  better American singer song writer than Josh Ritter, please let me know. What a joy it is to see him perform.  I saw him at a 200 person theatre in Gettysburg this weekend and was completely blown away.

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Post by: Vas Deferens on September 30, 2013, 11:02:03 am
^ Bill Callahan?

How was Sam Amidon?
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Post by: James Ford on September 30, 2013, 12:11:21 pm
Robbie Fulks>Josh Ritter
Jason Isbell>Josh Ritter
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Post by: Yada on September 30, 2013, 12:57:57 pm
Robbie Fulks>Josh Ritte: Will investigate, never heard of him.
Jason Isbell>Josh Ritter: LOL
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Post by: Yada on September 30, 2013, 12:58:06 pm
^ Bill Callahan?

How was Sam Amidon?

Didn't catch his set.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 30, 2013, 12:59:45 pm
I know it's not too cool to like singer song writers on this here board... but if anyone can name a  better American singer song writer than Josh Ritter, please let me know.
Singer-songwriter is such a weird term. Like, isn't Billy Corgan technically a singer-songwriter? He sings and writes the songs. Can't we come up with a more specific term for "someone who plays acoustic guitar, generally unaccompanied"?
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Post by: Bagley on September 30, 2013, 02:12:46 pm
^ Bill Callahan?

How was Sam Amidon?

Amidon reminded me of a contemporary Steve Martin.  A bit quirky with a dry sense of humor.  Talented musician-played  guitar, fiddle, banjo....  Told the audience that he recently discovered a band called the Grateful Dead and that he was amazed by the fact that all that do is jam.   He won me over at that point.  He covered a traditional folk/blues tune Cold Rain and Snow that was a staple in the Dead's repertoire for years.
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Post by: atomic on September 30, 2013, 02:17:53 pm
I know it's not too cool to like singer song writers on this here board... but if anyone can name a  better American singer song writer than Josh Ritter, please let me know.
Singer-songwriter is such a weird term. Like, isn't Billy Corgan technically a singer-songwriter? He sings and writes the songs. Can't we come up with a more specific term for "someone who plays acoustic guitar, generally unaccompanied"?


I like singer-songwriter.  When I hear singer-songwriter it makes me know to stop paying attention to the discussion.  
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Post by: Yada on September 30, 2013, 02:34:53 pm
^ Bill Callahan?

How was Sam Amidon?

Amidon reminded me of a contemporary Steve Martin.  A bit quirky with a dry sense of humor.  Talented musician-played  guitar, fiddle, banjo....  Told the audience that he recently discovered a band called the Grateful Dead and that he was amazed by the fact that all that do is jam.   He won me over at that point.  He covered a traditional folk/blues tune Cold Rain and Snow that was a staple in the Dead's repertoire for years.

were you at the Gettysburg show? What a treat!
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Post by: Yada on September 30, 2013, 02:35:13 pm
I know it's not too cool to like singer song writers on this here board... but if anyone can name a  better American singer song writer than Josh Ritter, please let me know.
Singer-songwriter is such a weird term. Like, isn't Billy Corgan technically a singer-songwriter? He sings and writes the songs. Can't we come up with a more specific term for "someone who plays acoustic guitar, generally unaccompanied"?


I like singer-songwriter.  When I hear singer-songwriter it makes me know to stop paying attention to the discussion.  

Thank you for your participation in this thread, nozzle.
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Post by: Bagley on September 30, 2013, 02:39:16 pm
I know it's not too cool to like singer song writers on this here board... but if anyone can name a  better American singer song writer than Josh Ritter, please let me know.
Singer-songwriter is such a weird term. Like, isn't Billy Corgan technically a singer-songwriter? He sings and writes the songs. Can't we come up with a more specific term for "someone who plays acoustic guitar, generally unaccompanied"?

Agree that we need some clarification here.  Folk singer/songwriters under the age of 40 perhaps? Otherwise I'd have to say no one comes close to Costello or Dylan.  
I was very impressed with Ritter's showmanship and stage presence, his endearingly warm smile draws you right in.   Yes, I do think he's a tremendous songwriter for his age.  His song structures are complex, he has quite a vocabulary, weaves good stories and virtually no piece is linear.

His two backup musicians were very talented as well.
Yada,  what was that metal box that his guitar player used on a couple songs?
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Post by: Yada on September 30, 2013, 02:52:52 pm
I know it's not too cool to like singer song writers on this here board... but if anyone can name a  better American singer song writer than Josh Ritter, please let me know.
Singer-songwriter is such a weird term. Like, isn't Billy Corgan technically a singer-songwriter? He sings and writes the songs. Can't we come up with a more specific term for "someone who plays acoustic guitar, generally unaccompanied"?

Agree that we need some clarification here.  Folk singer/songwriters under the age of 40 perhaps? Otherwise I'd have to say no one comes close to Costello or Dylan.  
I was very impressed with Ritter's showmanship and stage presence, his endearingly warm smile draws you right in.   Yes, I do think he's a tremendous songwriter for his age.  His song structures are complex, he has quite a vocabulary, weaves good stories and virtually no piece is linear.

His two backup musicians were very talented as well.
Yada,  what was that metal box that his guitar player used on a couple songs?

Unfortunately, other than a layman's description of some sort of effects box, I have no clue?

Is that the first time you've seen him? I'm approaching seeing him 10 times or so since 05' and that was definitely one of my favorite evenings. The mustache'd man is a fixture in his back up band.


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Post by: atomic on September 30, 2013, 03:03:59 pm
I know it's not too cool to like singer song writers on this here board... but if anyone can name a  better American singer song writer than Josh Ritter, please let me know.
Singer-songwriter is such a weird term. Like, isn't Billy Corgan technically a singer-songwriter? He sings and writes the songs. Can't we come up with a more specific term for "someone who plays acoustic guitar, generally unaccompanied"?

Agree that we need some clarification here.  Folk singer/songwriters under the age of 40 perhaps? Otherwise I'd have to say no one comes close to Costello or Dylan.  
I was very impressed with Ritter's showmanship and stage presence, his endearingly warm smile draws you right in.   Yes, I do think he's a tremendous songwriter for his age.  His song structures are complex, he has quite a vocabulary, weaves good stories and virtually no piece is linear.

His two backup musicians were very talented as well.
Yada,  what was that metal box that his guitar player used on a couple songs?

Is Elvis Costello considered a singer-songwriter?  I thought he was part of a band.  Saw him at Newport Folk Festival a couple of years ago and though his show was supposed to be acoustic he played with electric guitars and had a band.  He was pretty bad.  I never cared for him so maybe I am not the best judge but my wife thought he was pretty bad as well. 
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Post by: James Ford on September 30, 2013, 03:11:20 pm
If Bob Dylan and Elvis Costello are the best "singer-songwriters", I guess the meaning of singer-songwriter is someone who is a good songwriter whose singing sucks.
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Post by: Bagley on September 30, 2013, 03:14:08 pm
I know it's not too cool to like singer song writers on this here board... but if anyone can name a  better American singer song writer than Josh Ritter, please let me know.
Singer-songwriter is such a weird term. Like, isn't Billy Corgan technically a singer-songwriter? He sings and writes the songs. Can't we come up with a more specific term for "someone who plays acoustic guitar, generally unaccompanied"?

Agree that we need some clarification here.  Folk singer/songwriters under the age of 40 perhaps? Otherwise I'd have to say no one comes close to Costello or Dylan.  
I was very impressed with Ritter's showmanship and stage presence, his endearingly warm smile draws you right in.   Yes, I do think he's a tremendous songwriter for his age.  His song structures are complex, he has quite a vocabulary, weaves good stories and virtually no piece is linear.

His two backup musicians were very talented as well.
Yada,  what was that metal box that his guitar player used on a couple songs?

Unfortunately, other than a layman's description of some sort of effects box, I have no clue?

Is that the first time you've seen him? I'm approaching seeing him 10 times or so since 05' and that was definitely one of my favorite evenings. The mustache'd man is a fixture in his back up band.




Yep first time, well worth the ride from dc metro area.  Glad I caught a good one!
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Post by: Nigel Tufnel on September 30, 2013, 03:45:42 pm
^ Bill Callahan?

How was Sam Amidon?

Amidon reminded me of a contemporary Steve Martin.  A bit quirky with a dry sense of humor.  Talented musician-played  guitar, fiddle, banjo....  Told the audience that he recently discovered a band called the Grateful Dead and that he was amazed by the fact that all that do is jam.   He won me over at that point.  He covered a traditional folk/blues tune Cold Rain and Snow that was a staple in the Dead's repertoire for years.

were you at the Gettysburg show? What a treat!

I was at the Gettyburg show.  I think seated venues might be better for someone like Ritter, especially in acoustic form.  Really good performance, although Zach Hickman might have stolen the show with 'Mennonite Prom.'

I wish he would vary his setlist a little more - it was pretty close what he played at Bucknell the night before - but since it was the trio's third show ever, I guess it's understandable.

Ritter must be a good songwriter, because every time I hear 'Another New World' I feel sad for that ship captain and his boat for the next couple of days.
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Post by: Yada on September 30, 2013, 04:13:34 pm
^ Bill Callahan?

How was Sam Amidon?

Amidon reminded me of a contemporary Steve Martin.  A bit quirky with a dry sense of humor.  Talented musician-played  guitar, fiddle, banjo....  Told the audience that he recently discovered a band called the Grateful Dead and that he was amazed by the fact that all that do is jam.   He won me over at that point.  He covered a traditional folk/blues tune Cold Rain and Snow that was a staple in the Dead's repertoire for years.

were you at the Gettysburg show? What a treat!

I was at the Gettyburg show.  I think seated venues might be better for someone like Ritter, especially in acoustic form.  Really good performance, although Zach Hickman might have stolen the show with 'Mennonite Prom.'

I wish he would vary his setlist a little more - it was pretty close what he played at Bucknell the night before - but since it was the trio's third show ever, I guess it's understandable.

Ritter must be a good songwriter, because every time I hear 'Another New World' I feel sad for that ship captain and his boat for the next couple of days.

Absolutely... I've seen him at the Birchmere before and the club multiple times, but for an acoustic evening you couldn't have asked for a more intimate venue.

Regarding the setlist, I'm not surprised... I'm assuming they learned X amount of songs for this tour and will slowly add in other tunes as they get comfortable in that setting. I loved some of the alternate arrangements as well as a lot of the tunes off of Historical Conquests... (which as whole was always my least favorite Ritter album).

Sean Hayes tonight at Iota.
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Post by: Justin Tonation on September 30, 2013, 06:35:51 pm
"Singer-songwriter" came up at a time when most solo pop and rock singers performed works of other writers. Record stores had "vocal" sections, often segregated by gender. Rock authenticity changed to mandate that singers sang their own songs to differentiate themselves from pop singers.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 30, 2013, 08:42:16 pm
when i think of singer songwriters, i think of losers like james taylor and carole king and sheryl crowe.  god . . . barf me out.
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Post by: Yada on October 01, 2013, 08:47:24 am
when i think of singer songwriters, i think of losers like james taylor and carole king and sheryl crowe.  god . . . barf me out.

like I said... singer songwriters aren't too cool around these parts.
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Post by: James Ford on October 01, 2013, 09:21:14 am
you're not thinking very hard.

That's kind of like saying when I think if rock bands, I think of Journey and REO Speedwagon.


when i think of singer songwriters, i think of losers like james taylor and carole king and sheryl crowe.  god . . . barf me out.
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Post by: hutch on October 01, 2013, 09:22:09 am
Always amazes me to hear people saying Bob Dylan or Tom Waits can't sing..

I say these people can't understand what singing means..

Singing is not about having an American Idol voice... its just about communicating through song..

These same people would probably say Billie Holiday couldn't sing or something...well plenty of people know that Billie, even in her later years, could "sing"..some, Miles Davis for example, would say her singing only got better as her voice declined..

You have to separate "singing" from "the voice".. now anybody can say they don't like Bob Dylan's "voice", but to say he can't sing?

There are plenty of examples of great singing from Dylan even in these twilight years and with that gargle voice he's got..... Nettie Moore from Modern Times for example is, yes, great singing.

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Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 01, 2013, 09:22:40 am
I.e. Elliott Smith
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Post by: K8teebug on October 01, 2013, 09:22:50 am
Bob Dylan and Tom Waits are two of my FAVORITES.  I'm actually listening to Dylan right now.
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Post by: hutch on October 01, 2013, 09:30:11 am
Craig Robinson emceed/guested/sang with the Funky Meters last night at the Hamilton... guests dropping by seems to happen more at the Hamilton


As far as the show, I really enjoyed it.... it was a strange show.. I had no idea going in, although I knew he'd had some health issues and was up there (turning 76 in a few weeks), that Art "Poppa Funk" Neville had suffered some strokes.... it almost seemed like this show was an attempt to get Art back out there and playing cause you know when you have strokes you either get out there and recover what you were doing or you're toast... anyways, it was pretty visible that Art was still suffering from the stroke's damage...at the same time it was very uplifting to see the way George Porter Jr. and the rest of the band was rallying around him trying to give him the confidence and encouragement to perform.....

some might call it rather macabre.... personally I thought it was all pretty heroic and special.. I had an Uncle who had a few strokes and eventually it killed him.. and after the second one he sort of lost the will.....

They played a lot from Rejuvenation which is my favorite record of theirs and I got Art to sign it and complete it (I'd gotten the other three at the Metermen show at the Howard)...

I understand Russel Baptiste and Brian Stoltz are supposed to be the greatest of musicians but for whatever reason I really missed Zig and Leo... but the show was really about Art and it was pretty touching seeing how George, who is of course from a younger generation and could almost be Art's son, was trying to draw Art out...

I wonder if Art played on what seemed like a Hammond organ because its easier for him now?
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Post by: atomic on October 01, 2013, 10:10:52 am
Always amazes me to hear people saying Bob Dylan or Tom Waits can't sing..

I say these people can't understand what singing means..

Singing is not about having an American Idol voice... its just about communicating through song..

These same people would probably say Billie Holiday couldn't sing or something...well plenty of people know that Billie, even in her later years, could "sing"..some, Miles Davis for example, would say her singing only got better as her voice declined..

You have to separate "singing" from "the voice".. now anybody can say they don't like Bob Dylan's "voice", but to say he can't sing?

There are plenty of examples of great singing from Dylan even in these twilight years and with that gargle voice he's got..... Nettie Moore from Modern Times for example is, yes, great singing.



Sorry I like people who can sing.  Tom Waits, Bob Dylan, Lou Reed should not be singing.  There are millions of people who can sing in the world.  No need to have people who can't sing sing.   Geez I wish Nico sang all the songs for Velvet Underground. 

Vocal Range and the ability to hit notes.  Would you prefer if Ringo sang all the songs for the Beatles? I mean he definitely has a better voice than Bob Dylan but he is still very limited in range.   F*ck Bob Dylan I would rather listen to Adele any day.
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Post by: atomic on October 01, 2013, 10:12:07 am
when i think of singer songwriters, i think of losers like james taylor and carole king and sheryl crowe.  god . . . barf me out.

like I said... singer songwriters aren't too cool around these parts.

What?  Carole King's "Tapestry" is one of the best albums of all time. 
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Post by: atomic on October 01, 2013, 10:13:23 am
"Singer-songwriter" came up at a time when most solo pop and rock singers performed works of other writers. Record stores had "vocal" sections, often segregated by gender. Rock authenticity changed to mandate that singers sang their own songs to differentiate themselves from pop singers.

Yeah I guess we are past that now.  I mean are we going to say Elvis wasn't authentic? 
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Post by: DotTheEyes on October 01, 2013, 10:20:00 am
Did anyone else see Atoms for Peace last night?  I thought it was a fantastic show.  A real treat to hear songs from The Eraser, such as "Black Swan" and "Harrowdown Hill," given the muscular full-band treatment.
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Post by: Yada on October 09, 2013, 01:36:17 pm
I saw Orquesta Buena Vista Social Club and thought it was great... I hope hutch doesn't get too upset about this. 
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Post by: Relaxer on October 09, 2013, 04:13:25 pm
Did anyone else see Atoms for Peace last night?  I thought it was a fantastic show.  A real treat to hear songs from The Eraser, such as "Black Swan" and "Harrowdown Hill," given the muscular full-band treatment.

Here is a killer soundboard recording  (https://mega.co.nz/#!EBF2yRpS!AvAhDxovTqiNtltUwrrzoAssS7JzBs13gp5FlNPgr3A)of an Atoms show from this summer, with a very similar setlist
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Post by: sweetcell on October 10, 2013, 01:09:51 am
barf me out.

is that some new sexual maneuver i'm not aware of?

"my hot date with Steve ended up with us back at his place... things got hot and heavy, he totally barfed me out".
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Post by: wml7 on October 10, 2013, 04:24:55 am
Did anyone else see Atoms for Peace last night?  I thought it was a fantastic show.  A real treat to hear songs from The Eraser, such as "Black Swan" and "Harrowdown Hill," given the muscular full-band treatment.

I've seen them for their first four shows of the tour.  Austin City Limits in my opinion was the best of the four.  So powerful sounding and the bass was awesome.  Also ACL is hell of a festival, what a great city.

 ;D
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 10, 2013, 07:56:54 am
I meant to post this earlier in the week, but it was great to see Middle Distance Runner out playing live again.  Really enjoyed their new material, but wished they had done more than 45 minutes because they didn't dig enough into their back catalog.  Bu t I think they were bumping up against the late night event, so couldn't play longer. 

What I've always enjoyed about this band is their ability to combine short toe tapping/make people shimmy and shake songs, with epic set ending wall of sound songs.  They definitely deserve wider recognition outside of DC.
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Post by: Yada on October 10, 2013, 08:49:49 am
barf me out.

is that some new sexual maneuver i'm not aware of?

"my hot date with Steve ended up with us back at his place... things got hot and heavy, he totally barfed me out".

It's when you eat someone's ass and get a little bit of a toilet paper ball in your mouth, "barf me out."
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 10, 2013, 09:26:43 am
jesus . . . h . . . christ
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 10, 2013, 09:34:43 am
I've had to say this once since I've been back: when I am the person telling you you've blown right past common decency, you need to take a step back and think about that.
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Post by: Yada on October 10, 2013, 09:53:11 am
I've had to say this once since I've been back: when I am the person telling you you've blown right past common decency, you need to take a step back and think about that.

I take it you've had a few toilet paper balls in your day, eh?
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Post by: atomic on October 10, 2013, 11:16:37 am
There were a bunch of 6'5 and 6'6" guys at Junip last night.  Same thing happened at Deer Tick to a lesser degree.  Suddenly I feel small.   Is this the future am I going to have look up to other dudes?  I really don't like this.  I feel emasculated. Maybe I should buy a gun.
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Post by: reggie on October 10, 2013, 11:55:35 pm
opening night of Benzten Ball was great. Some doofus yelled "rape apologist" during Wyatt's set and it made no sense at all. Doug Benson and Tig were both awesome. The MC they used has room for improvement though.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 12, 2013, 01:21:38 pm
How was NMH last night? I'm psyched for tonite. Trying to avoid looking at a setlist.
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Post by: killsaly on October 12, 2013, 03:16:56 pm
I was going to post a set list picture but I will refrain. Great atmosphere, nice balance of Jeff solo versus whole band, so many instrument changes often in the same song, good energy of the band and it looks like they had been playing for last fifteen years and not on break, crowd was really onto it, watched from about ten feet from band (not sure how that compared to seeing it in the back), good mix of fuzzed out distorted rockers and more mellow fare, and I am glad I have tickets to see them again at DAR.

Atomic I looked for a 6'4 Nordic type but didn't see you...
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 12, 2013, 03:42:29 pm
Wow, sounds awesome. I haven't been looking forward to a show this much in a few years.

I'm settling in for Michigan v Penn State before the concert and won't check the thread again until tomorrow, so feel free to post the setlist if you wish.
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Post by: killsaly on October 12, 2013, 04:42:19 pm
I was able to take one picture of the stage setup (they said no pictures during the set... so I thought beforehand would be ok; it wasnt according to the security guard who rushed over and threatened to take my phone, which I put away and apologized).  A few people also took stage pictures and set list pictures, but I didnt see anyone doing it during the show. 
(http://distilleryimage3.s3.amazonaws.com/8082300232f911e3a2a322000ab69b6e_8.jpg)
(drum set, multiple guitars, multiple bass guitars, multiple horns (sax, trumpet, trombone, french horn, tuba, i think were all), three saws played with a bow, two accordions, one old Roland synth, one newer looking Moog Rogue, one banjo played with a bow, effects pedals, some synth on far side of stage that i couldnt make out, one xylophone... I might be missing something...

set list
Two-Headed Boy
The Fool
Holland, 1945
A Baby for Pree
Gardenhead / Leave Me Alone
Everything Is
The King of Carrot Flowers, Part One
The King of Carrot Flowers, Parts Two & Three
In the Aeroplane Over the Sea
Oh Comely
Song Against Sex
Ruby Bulbs
Snow Song, Part One
Ghost
[untitled]
(The Penny Arcade in California)
Two-Headed Boy, Part Two
Encore:
Naomi
Ferris Wheel on Fire
Engine
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: killsaly on October 12, 2013, 11:55:58 pm
http://blogs.citypaper.com/noise/index.php/2013/10/live-review-neutral-milk-hotel-at-2640-space/
City Paper write up has a different set list... I am not sure which was correct. 
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Post by: Vas Deferens on October 13, 2013, 08:51:08 am
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/neutral-milk-hotel/2013/2640-space-baltimore-md-73c72a19.html
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Post by: Bombay Chutney on October 13, 2013, 10:50:18 am
I'm settling in for Michigan v Penn State before the concert

Talk about a great show...
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Post by: killsaly on October 13, 2013, 11:19:15 am
Thanks Joe, I updated my post off of the set list dot fm link.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 13, 2013, 01:44:23 pm
I'm settling in for Michigan v Penn State before the concert

Talk about a great show...
As a Michigan alumni, I am literally beside myself still. 3 freaking fgs to win in and couldn't hit a damn one.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 13, 2013, 04:42:13 pm
what did you study, and how does one make it from michigan to richmond, anyway?  theres too much red brick in richmond, by the way. 
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 13, 2013, 05:01:44 pm
what did you study, and how does one make it from michigan to richmond, anyway?  theres too much red brick in richmond, by the way. 
This is, respectfully, not information I choose to share on the Internet.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 13, 2013, 05:34:36 pm
i went to college at george mason, i live in the shenandoah valley for my family and the love of my life and because its fucking beautiful and has cute quaint small towns with nice names like woodstock and new market and bayse, where one can care about their craft to hopefully its full extension. 

whats so fucking hard about that sir julian?  the internet; who cares about it.  fuck whose listening.  i want them to.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 13, 2013, 05:36:10 pm
have you gone and watched hanna, julian, or at least put it on your damn netflix list, yet?  you should; that good.
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Post by: Yada on October 13, 2013, 06:48:14 pm
Julian studied fashion on U of M.
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Post by: James Ford on October 13, 2013, 09:03:49 pm
i gave it four stars.

have you gone and watched hanna, julian, or at least put it on your damn netflix list, yet?  you should; that good.
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Post by: wml7 on October 30, 2013, 01:15:28 am
Just saw Pearl Jam in Charlottesville.
 Had to be one of the best shows I have seen from them (seen about seven times). I wasn't planning on going because I hate that venue.  I decided to track stubhub and see if I could get a cheap lower level ticket.  Hour before doors, I was able to get a ticket lower level for 30 bucks.  Weird how there were tons of tickets on there going for 20 bucks as well and they were better then mine.  I'm hoping same kind of show for Voodoo.
 ;D
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Post by: jeffml on November 06, 2013, 12:23:41 pm
Colin Meloy put on another solid solo show.  First time for me at Lincoln Theater which was
a nice venue with great acoustics (though it was solo acoustic show).
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Post by: K8teebug on November 06, 2013, 01:38:40 pm
Just saw Pearl Jam in Charlottesville.
 Had to be one of the best shows I have seen from them (seen about seven times). I wasn't planning on going because I hate that venue.  I decided to track stubhub and see if I could get a cheap lower level ticket.  Hour before doors, I was able to get a ticket lower level for 30 bucks.  Weird how there were tons of tickets on there going for 20 bucks as well and they were better then mine.  I'm hoping same kind of show for Voodoo.
 ;D

I am pissed at myself for not coming home, taking a nap, and then dragging myself out of the house to Baltimore.  I probably could have rallied after the marathon. 
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Post by: jeffml on November 06, 2013, 02:42:12 pm
Baltimore show was excellent.
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Post by: Bags on November 06, 2013, 04:50:44 pm
Colin Meloy put on another solid solo show.  First time for me at Lincoln Theater which was
a nice venue with great acoustics (though it was solo acoustic show).
I agree that Colin put on a good show, and I also was fine with the theater.  My first time for a music show as well.  It's sort of nice to have a seated venue for this sort of show (besides the godawful Birchmere).  I had a ticket to Neko Case last week but had to miss the show. 

I could see either Colin or The Decemberists several times a year and be just fine with that.  Yes, that's as random a thought as it appears.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 10, 2013, 08:36:29 pm
John Fogerty was really amazing.  He is really on his game. Vocals and guitar were tight.
So many hits ...it's mind blogging how many

On of my favorite moments had nothing to do with his set, but while waiting in line the dude behind me said "Man I saw Led Zepllin back in 1977, but damn I was so wasted I can only remember two songs they played"

Also nice new feature at DAR...you can bring drinks into the performance hall!
had about 5 overpriced drinks, but had them on the floor enjoying the show
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Post by: challenged on November 10, 2013, 08:44:59 pm
John Fogerty was really amazing.  He is really on his game. Vocals and guitar were tight.
So many hits ...it's mind blogging how many

On of my favorite moments had nothing to do with his set, but while waiting in line the dude behind me said "Man I saw Led Zepllin back in 1977, but damn I was so wasted I can only remember two songs they played"

Also nice new feature at DAR...you can bring drinks into the performance hall!
had about 5 overpriced drinks, but had them on the floor enjoying the show


I loved the songs; could have done without the Vegas-style production. I give it an 8.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 10, 2013, 10:13:45 pm
Weds I went to see Lady at the Howard which was the perfect way to clear away the bad vibes of the day.  Lady is now primarily Nicole Wray as the other singer Terri Walker has left the group.  Nicole was the primary lead singer on the record with Terri contributing mainly the harmonies.  They have a backup singer to the group who handles the harmonies nicely, but some of the lines Terri would have sang solo seem a bit awkward.  Anyways, the Nicole, who has worked with Missy Elliot and Black Keys, is now clearly the star of the group as evident by the one new song the band played.

Have to say the Howard is really nice theater with great sound and sight lines.  Sure hope they have resolved their service, food issues, etc.  As their are some scathing online reviews of the place.  At least I wasn't hustled for drinks while I was there.

On Thursday the double header at the club made me realize just how many "hits"  Toad the Wet Sprocket as they played a career spanning set including several from the new album, which I've been enjoying of late.  The No BS! Brass band were a lot of fun and I will definitely be checking out more of J. Roddy Walston and the Business as this my first exposure to them.
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Post by: K8teebug on November 11, 2013, 10:44:58 am
That sounds like a good run of shows for the weekend!
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 11, 2013, 12:41:20 pm
John Fogerty was really amazing.  He is really on his game. Vocals and guitar were tight.
So many hits ...it's mind blogging how many

I loved the songs; could have done without the Vegas-style production. I give it an 8.

well I agree it was a little flashy
but 29 song set and a little over 2 hours, definitely feel I got my money's worth
8 is accurate (if it had been at 930...that certainly would have been a 10...but now I'm dreaming)

Really don't do any classic rock any more, but JF was always on the list of acts I wanted to see
and am glad I did
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Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on November 13, 2013, 02:56:23 am
so that high on fire show was something else

all three bands killed it and i dont think id ever seen a dc crowd that energetic. the HoF pit started the second pike played his first riff.

so much fun.

still hoping to eventually cross sleep off my bucket list but in the meantime this was a kickass alternative
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Post by: Unsanity on November 13, 2013, 04:27:52 am
so that high on fire show was something else

all three bands killed it and i dont think id ever seen a dc crowd that energetic. the HoF pit started the second pike played his first riff.

so much fun.

still hoping to eventually cross sleep off my bucket list but in the meantime this was a kickass alternative

Nice to hear DC crowds being energetic. I saw Kvelertak at RNR back in spring and the crowd got crazy. But yeah you never know when it will be just a buncha folks standing completely still looking at their iphones. How hot did it get in RNR hotel for this one? I'm betting pits of hell hot!
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Post by: James Ford on November 13, 2013, 10:00:17 am
Excellent double bill at DC9 last night of Canadian artists (Sweetcell where were you?). Hayden and Doug Paisley. Definite Neil Young influence going on with Hayden (both the guitar crunch and the piano driven acoustic folk), I could tell the cover was going to be a Neil song before the first note of Powderfinger was played. Doug Paisley brought a more intimate country inflected sound which suited his well penned lyrics perfectly.

Small (45), enthusiastic (but thankfully not energetic) crowd. I guess he was too past his prime for Atomic to be there and the price was too cheap ($12) for Hutch to be there.
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Post by: hutch on November 13, 2013, 10:20:30 am
Excellent double bill at DC9 last night of Canadian artists (Sweetcell where were you?). Hayden and Doug Paisley. Definite Neil Young influence going on with Hayden (both the guitar crunch and the piano driven acoustic folk), I could tell the cover was going to be a Neil song before the first note of Powderfinger was played. Doug Paisley brought a more intimate country inflected sound which suited his well penned lyrics perfectly.

Small (45), enthusiastic (but thankfully not energetic) crowd. I guess he was too past his prime for Atomic to be there and the price was too cheap ($12) for Hutch to be there.

before the first note? wow that is good!

actually i was checking out one of my favorite bands last night (flamin groovies)..close by...we could have met up!...I really enjoyed the show but of course I would as they play Chuck Berry music (you know, rock and roll...)... sadly they had sound issues...Chris Wilson kept blaming the sound guy but come on don't you guys soundcheck? U St Hall I think is a problematic venue though... with the show having to be over for the dance party to start...not very rock and rolll..

sidehatch was at hayden  I think though so he can chime in I guess... you probably saw him...stocky balding 40 something dude probably wearing a too tight shirt... ;D
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on November 13, 2013, 10:22:38 am
Gary Clark played for about an hour and 40 minutes last night. That time FLEW by. I also think he played about 11 songs or so lol every tune broke into a guitar solo. So rad.
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Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on November 13, 2013, 11:35:44 am
so that high on fire show was something else

all three bands killed it and i dont think id ever seen a dc crowd that energetic. the HoF pit started the second pike played his first riff.

so much fun.

still hoping to eventually cross sleep off my bucket list but in the meantime this was a kickass alternative

Nice to hear DC crowds being energetic. I saw Kvelertak at RNR back in spring and the crowd got crazy. But yeah you never know when it will be just a buncha folks standing completely still looking at their iphones. How hot did it get in RNR hotel for this one? I'm betting pits of hell hot!
it was pretty hot. show looked to be fairly close to sold out but there was still plenty of room to move around. i walked to the bar and back up front towards the end of high on fire's set with no problem

would definitely go see kvelertak again on their own. they know how to get a crowd going
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Post by: Vas Deferens on November 13, 2013, 05:19:57 pm
dc rock live's review of the Flaming Groovies show:

 It is hard to believe this is the first ever show in Washington DC for this band that formed in the 1960s. Granted, their career has not exactly been on a straight trajectory and there were many years of down time, but this rare event did bring out a good crowd tonight. But based on tonight's show, this likely will also be their last show in DC as I doubt too many people would bother coming back. It is a credible line-up with 2-3 long-time members manning the guitars and bass along with a newer drummer. And there was some of their signature energized power pop flair evident in the set. But with the awful, awful sound full of feedback, there were plenty of grumbles on stage and in the crowd. They played a lot of cover songs which was ok, although when they played "Jumpin Jack Flash", it reminded me that I only saw the Stones play this a few months ago. They had a guitar string break (with no back-up), leaving one guitarist to go solo by playing the second Byrds (Dylan penned) song of the night, "Chimes of Freedom". I am not sure there was any magic even early on, but any positive vibes were slipping away, even as some of the crowd was trying to keep it lively. I had to laugh and agree with the shout of "Nooo!" when they said they were going to another Jagger-Richards cut. "Paint It Black" came out and again reminded me of the real deal just this past summer. I decided I had enough and followed a few people out the door, not waiting for the mighty "Shake Some Action".  Serves me right for not following my own advice I wrote only yesterday about shelling out $25 bucks for a name band as opposed to checking out 3-4 bands at the smaller clubs for $8. Oh well.
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Post by: hutch on November 13, 2013, 06:21:21 pm
dc rock live's review of the Flaming Groovies show:

 It is hard to believe this is the first ever show in Washington DC for this band that formed in the 1960s. Granted, their career has not exactly been on a straight trajectory and there were many years of down time, but this rare event did bring out a good crowd tonight. But based on tonight's show, this likely will also be their last show in DC as I doubt too many people would bother coming back. It is a credible line-up with 2-3 long-time members manning the guitars and bass along with a newer drummer. And there was some of their signature energized power pop flair evident in the set. But with the awful, awful sound full of feedback, there were plenty of grumbles on stage and in the crowd. They played a lot of cover songs which was ok, although when they played "Jumpin Jack Flash", it reminded me that I only saw the Stones play this a few months ago. They had a guitar string break (with no back-up), leaving one guitarist to go solo by playing the second Byrds (Dylan penned) song of the night, "Chimes of Freedom". I am not sure there was any magic even early on, but any positive vibes were slipping away, even as some of the crowd was trying to keep it lively. I had to laugh and agree with the shout of "Nooo!" when they said they were going to another Jagger-Richards cut. "Paint It Black" came out and again reminded me of the real deal just this past summer. I decided I had enough and followed a few people out the door, not waiting for the mighty "Shake Some Action".  Serves me right for not following my own advice I wrote only yesterday about shelling out $25 bucks for a name band as opposed to checking out 3-4 bands at the smaller clubs for $8. Oh well.


oh my god $25!!!!!!!!!!!!!

definitely not a great show... due to sound issues.. nobody could argue it was..

at the same time very enjoyable for longtime fans and a great show... that probably makes no sense but I'm going with it.... but they certainly wouldn't make any new converts last night

whoever wrote this doesn't know much about the Groovies.. they always play a lot of covers.. all their albums have about half covers.. the later ones even more


I would argue the Groovies made the classic rookie mistake which is kind of hard to understand but I see it all the time and was surprised they fell into the trap.. if you're having feedback and your monitors aren't working so you can't hear yourselves and one guy goes to the sound guy "turn me up!" then the next guy will do the same and the next guy and it just makes things worse.. the sound gets too loud and distorted and the feedback issues get worse.... this is what I thought happened last night.. and when they were having sound issues and feedback from the first note they should have taken five minutes to see if they could fix it.. I'm guessing given the situation (maybe one roadie? a sound guy provided by the house?) they may not have fixed the situation even then...
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Post by: gavroche on November 14, 2013, 12:36:40 pm
Gary Clark played for about an hour and 40 minutes last night. That time FLEW by. I also think he played about 11 songs or so lol every tune broke into a guitar solo. So rad.

I went to this (Tuesday show) and enjoyed it.  A bit too much guitar noodling for my taste, but I like his songs a lot.  Annoying crowd around me, lots of talking and people on cell phones.  It also started at 10:00 (as it was supposed to), and there were a lot of early exits.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on November 14, 2013, 04:04:49 pm
Gary Clark played for about an hour and 40 minutes last night. That time FLEW by. I also think he played about 11 songs or so lol every tune broke into a guitar solo. So rad.

I went to this (Tuesday show) and enjoyed it.  A bit too much guitar noodling for my taste, but I like his songs a lot.  Annoying crowd around me, lots of talking and people on cell phones.  It also started at 10:00 (as it was supposed to), and there were a lot of early exits.
There was an insanely drunk dude next to me who was swaying like a wild man in between songs, then during songs he would yell and bump into people. I was able to move my way through the crowd down to the food window and it was fine there. I felt like a lot of people did leave early... I was able to run to the metro and catch my train though! It was close.
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Post by: AnalogFossa on November 14, 2013, 06:09:58 pm
Not seeing any posting about it but went up to see MBV in philly. The reviews seem positive and they should be. My only disagreement was the level of loudness by MBV. It was loud but not earsplitting imoh. Also: Dumb Numbers were awful except for Murph from Dinosuar Jr. Murph is a fucking beast on drums.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 14, 2013, 06:43:45 pm
sidehatch was at hayden  I think though so he can chime in I guess... you probably saw him...stocky balding 40 something dude probably wearing a too tight shirt... ;D
sadly didn't make it...was very much planning on it then 9:00 hit and I was ready for bed (was out late in Bmore the night before catching the Sat. Nite Duets....with a crowd of 10)

not sure I like the description...
I was thinking: a Jason Statham stunt double wearing something fiendishly hip but still looking appropriate for age/build
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Post by: Yada on November 25, 2013, 12:04:18 pm
Mike Doughty exceeded all expectations on Friday night. Great show, played a ton of classic Soul Coughing tunes, and I enjoyed it much much more than his stale solo schtick of the past 12 years or so.

I also forgot what it was like to be in a non crammed 930 club. 

Good stuff.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 25, 2013, 12:06:55 pm
mickey hart band . . . best "non crammed" experience i had at the club
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Post by: hutch on November 25, 2013, 12:51:18 pm
mickey hart band . . . best "non crammed" experience i had at the club

non crammed... is that a double entendre?
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 25, 2013, 02:45:09 pm
is that a drink made with whiskey?
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Post by: Yada on December 08, 2013, 05:00:23 pm
Matthew E. White and his band put on the show of the year last night at R+R Hotel.

I saw him there a year ago which was his first time in DC and the way his band has matured is pretty mind blowing. He said they played roughly 150 shows in the past year and it shows. The addition of horns and a percussionist added a great element.

If his show next weekend wasn't on a Sunday, I'd ponder paying Julian a visit in Richmond. I think this is a band that anyone that loves music would enjoy.
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Post by: hutch on December 08, 2013, 05:06:21 pm
Matthew E. White and his band put on the show of the year last night at R+R Hotel.


whoa..strong words.. how do i know its not the beer talkin'?

 ;D

in all seriousness...awesome man... i'll have to check him out the next time..
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Post by: Yada on December 08, 2013, 05:10:58 pm
Matthew E. White and his band put on the show of the year last night at R+R Hotel.


whoa..strong words.. how do i know its not the beer talkin'?

 ;D

in all seriousness...awesome man... i'll have to check him out the next time..

I'm just being a little bold on this here Sunday... haven't even cracked a beer yet, but I'm about to.

My buddy and I were talking though and I could see this guy just completely slipping into obscurity... it would be a shame, but he's super humble and beyond talented. Anyway, hadn't seen a show that was goosebump inducing multiple times throughout the night in along time.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on December 08, 2013, 05:33:04 pm
was there a horn section?

he doesn't have much of a vocal range...I think Yada was just drunk.  ::)
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Post by: Yada on December 08, 2013, 05:40:04 pm
was there a horn section?

two horns and a percussionist.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on December 16, 2013, 11:33:26 pm
Queens of the Stone Age basically just burnt RVA to the ground. Holy god, show of the year contender.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 16, 2013, 11:47:39 pm
richmond burnt to the ground . . . wouldnt be much of a loss.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on December 16, 2013, 11:48:47 pm
richmond burnt to the ground . . . wouldnt be much of a loss.
True. True.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 16, 2013, 11:55:43 pm
i dont hate you anymore.  we can talk again.  i have friends who went.  glad it was killer show.  cheerio.
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Post by: Unsanity on December 17, 2013, 02:45:43 am
I would have loved to go to that one. I bet it was fantastic. Waiting for a DC / Baltimore date is excruciating.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on December 17, 2013, 09:27:50 am
i dont hate you anymore.  we can talk again. 
I was completely unaware you hated me and we weren't talking at any time.
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Post by: K8teebug on December 17, 2013, 09:42:20 am
Queens of the Stone Age basically just burnt RVA to the ground. Holy god, show of the year contender.

So jealous.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 17, 2013, 10:19:21 am
Queens of the Stone Age basically just burnt RVA to the ground. Holy god, show of the year contender.
So awesome. That hour and a half fucking flew by. They played Better Living Through Chemistry and Lost Art Of Keeping A Secret. So happy!
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on December 17, 2013, 10:56:05 am
So awesome. That hour and a half fucking flew by. They played Better Living Through Chemistry and Lost Art Of Keeping A Secret. So happy!
Yeah, agreed. They hadn't been playing Lost Art on this tour, according to setlist.fm, and its my favorite song by them so I was hyped when they played it. The second half of that show, from Little Sister thru the end was straight up amazing.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 17, 2013, 11:11:03 am
So awesome. That hour and a half fucking flew by. They played Better Living Through Chemistry and Lost Art Of Keeping A Secret. So happy!
Yeah, agreed. They hadn't been playing Lost Art on this tour, according to setlist.fm, and its my favorite song by them so I was hyped when they played it. The second half of that show, from Little Sister thru the end was straight up amazing.
Turnin On The Screw was so awesome. I was trying to remember the whole set list, but I'm sure I can find it online. I definitely thought they were going to come on at 9 or 930. We got up on the balcony and found 2 seats, were sitting for about 15 minutes and they were on at 830. Was a pleasant surprise. Would have liked to hear some stuff off their first album, but I'm not complaining. The set list was awesome.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on December 17, 2013, 11:15:59 am
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/queens-of-the-stone-age/2013/the-national-richmond-va-5bc46fb8.html

I would've really liked Regular John. I, too, was surprised by the early start. We walked in during the start of No One Knows. Monsters In A Parasol was awesome too.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 17, 2013, 11:21:51 am
They were all awesome lol. They have 1 date in Oklahoma in May and no dates in April or through June.... I wonder if they'll ramp is up in the spring again and get a DC/Baltimore show. Gonna hang my poster up next to my other 2 when I get home! Poster nerd!

I wish everyone who wanted to go could have, because it was awesome. Fingers crossed for a local show!
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on December 17, 2013, 11:22:37 am
Gonna hang my poster up next to my other 2 when I get home! Poster nerd!
I didn't see any posters for sale. Was it venue-specific (the one ones I buy) or for the entire tour?
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 17, 2013, 11:30:40 am
They were venue specific, I'll post a picture when I get home. They were numbered, I believe there were only 50 or so. I have the one from Ram's Head and the one from 930 in 2005.
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Post by: wml7 on December 17, 2013, 11:38:51 am
How was the crowd?  Was there moshing going round?  Saw them in Chicago in a club and crowd went ape shit for Song For the Dead.
 ;D
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 17, 2013, 11:42:10 am
i dont hate you anymore.  we can talk again. 
I was completely unaware you hated me and we weren't talking at any time.

well . . . now you know.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 17, 2013, 11:47:55 am
How was the crowd?  Was there moshing going round?  Saw them in Chicago in a club and crowd went ape shit for Song For the Dead.
 ;D
I was sitting up on the balcony, so I couldn't see the crowd. Everyone in the seated area on the balcony was standing up and dancing around. I know I was. I was one dude crowd surf, make it on stage, then turn right back around and stage dive.
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Post by: atomic on January 25, 2014, 12:14:47 am
After the show at the Floristree last night I looked around for Killsally and then I realized I had no clue as to what he looked like. 
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Post by: Hexenjagd on January 25, 2014, 03:38:57 am
I thought you said you saw me at Neutral Milk Hotel?

Either way, I ended up skipping it.  I heard it was amazing, and already regret that decision.   

Pixies at Electric Factory last night was a fun 90 minutes.  Even with the 4.5 hours of driving time, I still think I made the right choice of seeing them at Electric Factory instead of Strathmore.

I caught the last few songs of Fidlar and was glad I didnt get there any earlier.
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Post by: Yada on January 25, 2014, 11:25:59 am
I thought you said you saw me at Neutral Milk Hotel?

Either way, I ended up skipping it.  I heard it was amazing, and already regret that decision.   

Pixies at Electric Factory last night was a fun 90 minutes.  Even with the 4.5 hours of driving time, I still think I made the right choice of seeing them at Electric Factory instead of Strathmore.

I caught the last few songs of Fidlar and was glad I didnt get there any earlier.

Atomic is having a hard time keeping his schtick straight.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on January 25, 2014, 11:52:03 am
Best Waxahatchee set I've caught yet. Her tweet after just about sums it up. https://twitter.com/k_crutchfield/status/426956793236189184
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Post by: andyrichter on January 25, 2014, 03:57:27 pm
I thought you said you saw me at Neutral Milk Hotel?

Either way, I ended up skipping it.  I heard it was amazing, and already regret that decision.   

Pixies at Electric Factory last night was a fun 90 minutes.  Even with the 4.5 hours of driving time, I still think I made the right choice of seeing them at Electric Factory instead of Strathmore.

I caught the last few songs of Fidlar and was glad I didnt get there any earlier.

I was at the Pixies show last night too.  I had a great time.  I wasn't disappointed at the lack of encore because they did play like you said 90 minutes.  Crowd was fun too, looked like the kids were having a blast moshing.  Fidlar was dreadful.  You didn't miss much.
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Post by: stevewizzle on January 25, 2014, 04:06:53 pm
I thought you said you saw me at Neutral Milk Hotel?

Either way, I ended up skipping it.  I heard it was amazing, and already regret that decision.   

Pixies at Electric Factory last night was a fun 90 minutes.  Even with the 4.5 hours of driving time, I still think I made the right choice of seeing them at Electric Factory instead of Strathmore.

I caught the last few songs of Fidlar and was glad I didnt get there any earlier.
I was at the Pixies show last night too.  I had a great time.  I wasn't disappointed at the lack of encore because they did play like you said 90 minutes.  Crowd was fun too, looked like the kids were having a blast moshing.  Fidlar was dreadful.  You didn't miss much.
any reason why fidlar sucked? curious.

i didn't know pixies were a moshing occasion.
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Post by: Hexenjagd on January 25, 2014, 04:08:37 pm
I usually don't talk shit about bands, bit yeah, fidlar were pretty bad on the four songs I heard.

Fidlar sounded generic... Kind of like some bar band playing their originals instead of the covers.
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Post by: andyrichter on January 25, 2014, 05:42:21 pm
I thought you said you saw me at Neutral Milk Hotel?

Either way, I ended up skipping it.  I heard it was amazing, and already regret that decision.   

Pixies at Electric Factory last night was a fun 90 minutes.  Even with the 4.5 hours of driving time, I still think I made the right choice of seeing them at Electric Factory instead of Strathmore.

I caught the last few songs of Fidlar and was glad I didnt get there any earlier.
I was at the Pixies show last night too.  I had a great time.  I wasn't disappointed at the lack of encore because they did play like you said 90 minutes.  Crowd was fun too, looked like the kids were having a blast moshing.  Fidlar was dreadful.  You didn't miss much.
any reason why fidlar sucked? curious.

i didn't know pixies were a moshing occasion.

Fidlar just sounds like a very generic pop punky/bro rock/quasi surfy/ garage band that I imagine are from California that sings about partying, drinking, and drugs.  I've heard them in some form or fashion about a hundred times over in the past.  Nothing remotely interesting, catchy, or memorable about their songs.  The kids up front liked them.

I didn't know the pixies inspired moshing but they did last night. 
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 26, 2014, 02:23:02 am
Best Waxahatchee set I've caught yet. Her tweet after just about sums it up. https://twitter.com/k_crutchfield/status/426956793236189184
My first time seeing her tonite. Not a big fan going in but a great, great set. Liked the opener with dogs in their name too.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on January 26, 2014, 03:56:58 am
Yeah I dug both openers Friday. Was looking forward to All Dogs for a while and they delivered and Cayetana was a bonus. Their singer had a Mountain Goats-esque delivery thing happening.
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Post by: Yada on March 02, 2014, 11:53:52 pm
Mr. Stephen Malkmus really mailed it in on Friday night at the Black Cat... my least favorite show I've ever seen of his.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on March 03, 2014, 01:23:40 am
^This is how I felt about the last 930 show and why I didn't jump on tickets to Friday's show.

That St. Vincent show was pretty fucking epic. Went mostly for Holly Herndon but very happy I stuck around.
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Post by: hutch on March 03, 2014, 10:56:35 am
Mr. Stephen Malkmus really mailed it in on Friday night at the Black Cat... my least favorite show I've ever seen of his.

damn... sorry to read that..what did he play?

guess it really is over...

and the new album is good too...

i wonder what is next for malkmus? wait 4 years for a  new album and another tour of even smalller places? live off the wife's job? reunite pavement for new album with reunnion tour?

he's running out of options musicwise..

maybe he'll find a new career...

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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 11:13:14 am
Mr. Stephen Malkmus really mailed it in on Friday night at the Black Cat... my least favorite show I've ever seen of his.

damn... sorry to read that..what did he play?

guess it really is over...

and the new album is good too...

i wonder what is next for malkmus? wait 4 years for a  new album and another tour of even smalller places? live off the wife's job? reunite pavement for new album with reunnion tour?

he's running out of options musicwise..

maybe he'll find a new career...



I wouldn't call it over... and I'll most likely go see him again when he rolls through town in a handful of years, but I think it was just an off night. In my opinion, it's strange seeing a band that just doesn't care and I really got that vibe the other night. That mixed with a sold out Black Cat, starting after 11pm (yes, i'm an old fart)... it just wasn't a great show.

It was heavy on tunes from the last two albums plus a few favorites like Jenny and The Ess Dog and Baby C'mon. The encore had a few really deep Pavement cuts from Watery Domestic and Perfect Sound Forever... then a Fleetwood Mac and Velvet Underground cover.

I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 03, 2014, 11:19:18 am
I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
This.

I think it's weird having went to both the NMH and Pavement reunion tours (who are similar in that they're both bands primarily from the 90's who waited a decade plus to finally give in and reunite). I left Pavement's show going "I would go see that band every year if they reformed permanently," and I left NMH going, "I really have no interest in seeing them again." On pure "how good was the set," they were probably even or maybe NHM was a bit more technically proficient, but I just wouldn't go see NMH again if I had the chance (unless it was free or something) whereas I'd go see Pavement every summer like some people do Pearl Jam.
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 11:22:08 am
I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
This.

I think it's weird having went to both the NMH and Pavement reunion tours (who are similar in that they're both bands primarily from the 90's who waited a decade plus to finally give in and reunite). I left Pavement's show going "I would go see that band every year if they reformed permanently," and I left NMH going, "I really have no interest in seeing them again." On pure "how good was the set," they were probably even or maybe NHM was a bit more technically proficient, but I just wouldn't go see NMH again if I had the chance (unless it was free or something) whereas I'd go see Pavement every summer like some people do Pearl Jam.

Yeah... I'd see Pavement every time they rolled through town. They also have a catalog over 100 awesome songs where I'm assuming Neutral Milk Hotel plays their one boring album every show?

I do wonder how Stephen Malkmus has any money... maybe him and his wife have trust funds.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on March 03, 2014, 11:23:32 am
Didn't the Pavement shows slowly devolve to where it was a mess on the last leg of shows?


P.S. Still bitter about DC getting shafted out of a Pavement show because of V-Fest. I think Joe mentioned to me that Malkmus expressed some dismay about this in Philly, too.

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Post by: James Ford on March 03, 2014, 11:24:39 am
I've always assumed that was the case with most indie rock musicians.

I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
This.

I think it's weird having went to both the NMH and Pavement reunion tours (who are similar in that they're both bands primarily from the 90's who waited a decade plus to finally give in and reunite). I left Pavement's show going "I would go see that band every year if they reformed permanently," and I left NMH going, "I really have no interest in seeing them again." On pure "how good was the set," they were probably even or maybe NHM was a bit more technically proficient, but I just wouldn't go see NMH again if I had the chance (unless it was free or something) whereas I'd go see Pavement every summer like some people do Pearl Jam.

Yeah... I'd see Pavement every time they rolled through town. They also have a catalog over 100 awesome songs where I'm assuming Neutral Milk Hotel plays their one boring album every show?

I do wonder how Stephen Malkmus has any money... maybe him and his wife have trust funds.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 03, 2014, 11:27:58 am
Yeah... I'd see Pavement every time they rolled through town. They also have a catalog over 100 awesome songs where I'm assuming Neutral Milk Hotel plays their one boring album every show?
To be fair, NMH played basically every song off both LPs but yeah, I think that's probably what it comes down to for me as well.
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 11:29:09 am
Didn't the Pavement shows slowly devolve to where it was a mess on the last leg of shows?


P.S. Still bitter about DC getting shafted out of a Pavement show because of V-Fest. I think Joe mentioned to me that Malkmus expressed some dismay about this in Philly, too.



I saw one show and highly enjoyed it... I wouldn't be surprised to hear that some of the shows sucked, but I think that comes down to the mood of Malkmus on a certain evening.
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Post by: atomic on March 03, 2014, 11:29:54 am
I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
This.

I think it's weird having went to both the NMH and Pavement reunion tours (who are similar in that they're both bands primarily from the 90's who waited a decade plus to finally give in and reunite). I left Pavement's show going "I would go see that band every year if they reformed permanently," and I left NMH going, "I really have no interest in seeing them again." On pure "how good was the set," they were probably even or maybe NHM was a bit more technically proficient, but I just wouldn't go see NMH again if I had the chance (unless it was free or something) whereas I'd go see Pavement every summer like some people do Pearl Jam.

Funny when I saw Pavement I left halfway through as they were so boring. Neutral Milk Hotel still sounds exciting and fresh.  Are you another guy on here stuck in the past?
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Post by: atomic on March 03, 2014, 11:31:02 am
I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
This.

I think it's weird having went to both the NMH and Pavement reunion tours (who are similar in that they're both bands primarily from the 90's who waited a decade plus to finally give in and reunite). I left Pavement's show going "I would go see that band every year if they reformed permanently," and I left NMH going, "I really have no interest in seeing them again." On pure "how good was the set," they were probably even or maybe NHM was a bit more technically proficient, but I just wouldn't go see NMH again if I had the chance (unless it was free or something) whereas I'd go see Pavement every summer like some people do Pearl Jam.

Yeah... I'd see Pavement every time they rolled through town. They also have a catalog over 100 awesome songs where I'm assuming Neutral Milk Hotel plays their one boring album every show?

I do wonder how Stephen Malkmus has any money... maybe him and his wife have trust funds.

You are boring.  Neutral Milk Hotel has more great songs one on album than Pavement did on 4.  Not even close.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 03, 2014, 11:31:36 am
Are you another guy on here stuck in the past?
I think anyone who is totally hyped over a band that hasn't put out a record in ~15 years (NMH or Pavement) is in some way stuck in the past.
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 11:32:08 am
I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
This.

I think it's weird having went to both the NMH and Pavement reunion tours (who are similar in that they're both bands primarily from the 90's who waited a decade plus to finally give in and reunite). I left Pavement's show going "I would go see that band every year if they reformed permanently," and I left NMH going, "I really have no interest in seeing them again." On pure "how good was the set," they were probably even or maybe NHM was a bit more technically proficient, but I just wouldn't go see NMH again if I had the chance (unless it was free or something) whereas I'd go see Pavement every summer like some people do Pearl Jam.

Funny when I saw Pavement I left halfway through as they were so boring. Neutral Milk Hotel still sounds exciting and fresh.  Are you another guy on here stuck in the past?

Every time Pavement is brought up on this here board, you make the same post.

Exciting and fresh?? LOL.
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 11:33:12 am
I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
This.

I think it's weird having went to both the NMH and Pavement reunion tours (who are similar in that they're both bands primarily from the 90's who waited a decade plus to finally give in and reunite). I left Pavement's show going "I would go see that band every year if they reformed permanently," and I left NMH going, "I really have no interest in seeing them again." On pure "how good was the set," they were probably even or maybe NHM was a bit more technically proficient, but I just wouldn't go see NMH again if I had the chance (unless it was free or something) whereas I'd go see Pavement every summer like some people do Pearl Jam.

Yeah... I'd see Pavement every time they rolled through town. They also have a catalog over 100 awesome songs where I'm assuming Neutral Milk Hotel plays their one boring album every show?

I do wonder how Stephen Malkmus has any money... maybe him and his wife have trust funds.

You are boring.  Neutral Milk Hotel has more great songs one on album than Pavement did on 4.  Not even close.

Thanks again for your input, learn to type.
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Post by: atomic on March 03, 2014, 11:38:31 am
I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
This.

I think it's weird having went to both the NMH and Pavement reunion tours (who are similar in that they're both bands primarily from the 90's who waited a decade plus to finally give in and reunite). I left Pavement's show going "I would go see that band every year if they reformed permanently," and I left NMH going, "I really have no interest in seeing them again." On pure "how good was the set," they were probably even or maybe NHM was a bit more technically proficient, but I just wouldn't go see NMH again if I had the chance (unless it was free or something) whereas I'd go see Pavement every summer like some people do Pearl Jam.

Funny when I saw Pavement I left halfway through as they were so boring. Neutral Milk Hotel still sounds exciting and fresh.  Are you another guy on here stuck in the past?

Every time Pavement is brought up on this here board, you make the same post.

Exciting and fresh?? LOL.

I wouldn't have commented on Pavement as they are another boring has-been band but you somehow decided to insult Rock Gods Neutral Milk Hotel.  But I suggest they do come up with another album.  They might make something interesting.  Anyway Malkmus' solo work is awful.  I have no idea why anyone would attend his shows. 

I wonder why people on here like has-been bands so much.  It is quite a mystery.
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 11:40:42 am
I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
This.

I think it's weird having went to both the NMH and Pavement reunion tours (who are similar in that they're both bands primarily from the 90's who waited a decade plus to finally give in and reunite). I left Pavement's show going "I would go see that band every year if they reformed permanently," and I left NMH going, "I really have no interest in seeing them again." On pure "how good was the set," they were probably even or maybe NHM was a bit more technically proficient, but I just wouldn't go see NMH again if I had the chance (unless it was free or something) whereas I'd go see Pavement every summer like some people do Pearl Jam.

Funny when I saw Pavement I left halfway through as they were so boring. Neutral Milk Hotel still sounds exciting and fresh.  Are you another guy on here stuck in the past?

Every time Pavement is brought up on this here board, you make the same post.

Exciting and fresh?? LOL.

I wouldn't have commented on Pavement as they are another boring has-been band but you somehow decided to insult Rock Gods Neutral Milk Hotel.  But I suggest they do come up with another album.  They might make something interesting.  Anyway Malkmus' solo work is awful.  I have no idea why anyone would attend his shows. 

I wonder why people on here like has-been bands so much.  It is quite a mystery.

You're touting a band that hasn't released an album since 1998 as exciting and fresh... on top of that freshness, what else has Jeff Magnum contributed to? A few random albums throughout the 00's?
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 03, 2014, 11:42:28 am
No, guys, Atomic is right. Malkmus' solo work is far surpassed by Magnum's field recordings of Bavarian folk festivals. Let's all just admit it.
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 11:44:06 am
No, guys, Atomic is right. Malkmus' solo work is far surpassed by Magnum's field recordings of Bavarian folk festivals. Let's all just admit it.

I'm willing to bet atomic has never listened to a Malkmus solo album, not enough Grapes of Wrathy feel in his outfits.
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Post by: hutch on March 03, 2014, 11:54:37 am
problem with pavement reunion is that malkmus is pavement and the other dudes are kinda annoying to me...

what exactly do the other guys bring to the table? when i saw the pavement show at virgin freefest iwas like
"wait a  minute,its a malkmus solo show alll but in name only!"


also i like malkmus' solo stuff a lot...i'lll take a lot of it over the last two pavement albums...

the only way it could work for me would be some pavement master album release but then agaiin we're back where we started because it would be a malkmus album

another option is malkmus could try some other band concept...but his music is so distinctive it would just sound like a malkmus solo album

anyways i'm just grateful for his music...

any way you slice it yesterday's heroes are today's zeroes.....very few exceptions to that rule..
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 03, 2014, 12:00:37 pm
"wait a  minute,its a malkmus solo show alll but in name only!"
I never understood this thinking. Who cares? Its like all the people who won't go see "Smashing Pumpkins" because its just Billy or just Billy and Jimmy. They're not deceiving you on the lineup. You're seeing the principal songwriter/musician play his classic songs. If you like those songs, I don't understand refusing to go because its a different bass player. Would it be more palatable if the ticket said "Billy Corgan plays the Smashing Pumpkins' Greatest Hits" or "Malkmus covers Pavement songs"? I feel like with the internet giving us ever more information about who is in bands, what they're playing on tour, etc, this argument of "its not the real band" is wearing painfully thin. Just say "I don't like Smashing Pumpkins/Pavement" instead of creating this hysterical strawman about integrity of band lineups.
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Post by: hutch on March 03, 2014, 12:03:14 pm
"wait a  minute,its a malkmus solo show alll but in name only!"
I never understood this thinking. Who cares? Its like all the people who won't go see "Smashing Pumpkins" because its just Billy or just Billy and Jimmy. They're not deceiving you on the lineup. You're seeing the principal songwriter/musician play his classic songs. If you like those songs, I don't understand refusing to go because its a different bass player. Would it be more palatable if the ticket said "Billy Corgan plays the Smashing Pumpkins' Greatest Hits" or "Malkmus covers Pavement songs"? I feel like with the internet giving us ever more information about who is in bands, what they're playing on tour, etc, this argument of "its not the real band" is wearing painfully thin. Just say "I don't like Smashing Pumpkins/Pavement" instead of creating this hysterical strawman about integrity of band lineups.

I didn't say its not the real band!

I'd still go see "Pavement" but there is a reason Pavement ended and its that Malkmus got tired of the charade/carrying the rest of the band.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 03, 2014, 12:07:16 pm
I didn't say its not the real band!
Admittedly, I went on a slight tangent.

I agree that a "new" Pavement record would sound wildly similar to the Malkmus + Jicks solo records (which, other than the first one, I personally did not care for).
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Post by: azaghal1981 on March 03, 2014, 12:12:34 pm
I'm all for a Pavement reunion.
This.

I think it's weird having went to both the NMH and Pavement reunion tours (who are similar in that they're both bands primarily from the 90's who waited a decade plus to finally give in and reunite). I left Pavement's show going "I would go see that band every year if they reformed permanently," and I left NMH going, "I really have no interest in seeing them again." On pure "how good was the set," they were probably even or maybe NHM was a bit more technically proficient, but I just wouldn't go see NMH again if I had the chance (unless it was free or something) whereas I'd go see Pavement every summer like some people do Pearl Jam.

Funny when I saw Pavement I left halfway through as they were so boring. Neutral Milk Hotel still sounds exciting and fresh.  Are you another guy on here stuck in the past?

Every time Pavement is brought up on this here board, you make the same post.

Exciting and fresh?? LOL.

I wouldn't have commented on Pavement as they are another boring has-been band but you somehow decided to insult Rock Gods Neutral Milk Hotel.  But I suggest they do come up with another album.  They might make something interesting.  Anyway Malkmus' solo work is awful.  I have no idea why anyone would attend his shows. 

I wonder why people on here like has-been bands so much.  It is quite a mystery.

You're touting a band that hasn't released an album since 1998 as exciting and fresh... on top of that freshness, what else has Jeff Magnum contributed to? A few random albums throughout the 00's?

I do love this cover (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOWyIPKV81U) but yeah, I agree on the whole. NMH is an only-need-to-see-once band until they put out new material (probably never) and Pavement would be fun to see once per year.
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Post by: atomic on March 03, 2014, 12:13:24 pm
"wait a  minute,its a malkmus solo show alll but in name only!"
I never understood this thinking. Who cares? Its like all the people who won't go see "Smashing Pumpkins" because its just Billy or just Billy and Jimmy. They're not deceiving you on the lineup. You're seeing the principal songwriter/musician play his classic songs. If you like those songs, I don't understand refusing to go because its a different bass player. Would it be more palatable if the ticket said "Billy Corgan plays the Smashing Pumpkins' Greatest Hits" or "Malkmus covers Pavement songs"? I feel like with the internet giving us ever more information about who is in bands, what they're playing on tour, etc, this argument of "its not the real band" is wearing painfully thin. Just say "I don't like Smashing Pumpkins/Pavement" instead of creating this hysterical strawman about integrity of band lineups.

Well if they did say it was Billy Corgan playing Smashing Pumpkins it would be at a small club instead of an arena. So there is a difference and most of the fans of bands like the Smashing Pumpkins don't look up such things on the Internet.
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Post by: emmanuel on March 03, 2014, 12:20:25 pm
I would like to see Pavement do a full set, and not the 60 minutes 3pm set they played in 2010 :/ So certainly for some of us, new reunion shows would make sense; they have not covered all cities.

Anyway I was at the Malkmus show last friday. Last time I could see him was his first 2001 tour I think. 13 years later I think it was quite similar, and at least this time he didn't have only 1 album worth of songs. Like the first reviewer said, it was a bit awkward because they didn't seem to care much, but the music was fine.
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Post by: hutch on March 03, 2014, 12:20:53 pm
I didn't say its not the real band!
Admittedly, I went on a slight tangent.

I agree that a "new" Pavement record would sound wildly similar to the Malkmus + Jicks solo records (which, other than the first one, I personally did not care for).


I'm surprised you did not like pig lib particularly with the bonus ep cd...

i always found pavement's stuff took time to really sink in (wowee zowee anyone?) and with malkmus its the same but people by and large don't seem to give it the time... not saying you.

obviously malkmus has not recorded anythingn as immediate as crooked rain
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 12:22:21 pm
I didn't say its not the real band!
Admittedly, I went on a slight tangent.

I agree that a "new" Pavement record would sound wildly similar to the Malkmus + Jicks solo records (which, other than the first one, I personally did not care for).

How does a Malkmus/Pavement fan not like Pig Lib?
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 03, 2014, 12:33:36 pm
cinnamon and lesbians, sounds so much some other song, like the center musical verse of the thing was directly ripped off . . . but for the life of me, i cannot figure out from which one.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on March 03, 2014, 12:36:18 pm
How does a Malkmus/Pavement fan not like Pig Lib?
It's not bad, but its not great, IMHO either. I haven't listened to it in a very, very long time and have no plans to ever do so again. (Although if everyone on here is hype over it, maybe I will give it another chance.) I'm not saying it's Travistan or anything tho.
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 12:37:17 pm
cinnamon and lesbians, sounds so much some other song, like the center musical verse of the thing was directly ripped off . . . but for the life of me, i cannot figure out from which one.

You're joking, right brah?
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 12:38:00 pm
How does a Malkmus/Pavement fan not like Pig Lib?
It's not bad, but its not great, IMHO either. I haven't listened to it in a very, very long time and have no plans to ever do so again. (Although if everyone on here is hype over it, maybe I will give it another chance.) I'm not saying it's Travistan or anything tho.

Admittedly, huge fan of anything he puts out but yeah... that's a perfect album. Along with Real Emotional Trash.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 03, 2014, 12:40:07 pm
cinnamon and lesbians, sounds so much some other song, like the center musical verse of the thing was directly ripped off . . . but for the life of me, i cannot figure out from which one.

You're joking, right brah?

from the first time i heard it . . . the tip of my tongue tingled with the testaments of this thing sounding like something else.
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 12:49:42 pm
cinnamon and lesbians, sounds so much some other song, like the center musical verse of the thing was directly ripped off . . . but for the life of me, i cannot figure out from which one.

You're joking, right brah?

from the first time i heard it . . . the tip of my tongue tingled with the testaments of this thing sounding like something else.

I'm going to bite, St. Stephen... but I think you knew that.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 03, 2014, 12:54:02 pm
HOLY CRAP!
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Post by: BookerT on March 03, 2014, 01:50:02 pm
I think the problem with Malkmus at this point is that he?s having too much of a good time, if that makes any sense. And the persona he?s adopted and what he?s known for ? topical banter, interesting and always-different covers ? lends itself to mediocre shows. The music is secondary to the Malkmus. It?s all very loose and fun but hard to argue all that great. Did we really need a C+ version of ?Beginning to See the Light? and a failed attempt at some ancient Fleetwood Mac song? Probably not, but he likes to jam out with his buddies. I think Pavement came by its disheveled reputation more honestly and then, in fact, wasn?t all that disheveled by the end. Friday?s show was fine but left zero impression and was forgotten by the next day. (Sold-out, late-starting Friday show with a casual band on stage also isn't the great concert environment.) Malkmus?s solo catalogue is, in fact, really excellent and I?d like to see him and the band play it straight for a tour and pick the best songs and just rip through ?em, even if it means skipping the covers or even switching up the set lists all that much from show to show.
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Post by: Yada on March 03, 2014, 01:55:23 pm
I think the problem with Malkmus at this point is that he?s having too much of a good time, if that makes any sense. And the persona he?s adopted and what he?s known for ? topical banter, interesting and always-different covers ? lends itself to mediocre shows. The music is secondary to the Malkmus. It?s all very loose and fun but hard to argue all that great. Did we really need a C+ version of ?Beginning to See the Light? and a failed attempt at some ancient Fleetwood Mac song? Probably not, but he likes to jam out with his buddies. I think Pavement came by its disheveled reputation more honestly and then, in fact, wasn?t all that disheveled by the end. Friday?s show was fine but left zero impression and was forgotten by the next day. (Sold-out, late-starting Friday show with a casual band on stage also isn't the great concert environment.) Malkmus?s solo catalogue is, in fact, really excellent and I?d like to see him and the band play it straight for a tour and pick the best songs and just rip through ?em, even if it means skipping the covers or even switching up the set lists all that much from show to show.

Way to put my thoughts down on paper... I guess that's why they pay you the big bucks. I saw you rockin' the Buccos cap on Friday night.
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Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on March 04, 2014, 03:17:46 pm
sorry I'm late to the party, but Malkmus was boring. C minus?
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on March 28, 2014, 01:37:20 pm
This article says that the "band recently parted company with their bass player Neil Busch due to "severe health problems" so I guess it's a better way of saying it was due to drug problems.
http://www.drownedinsound.com/news/10236-trail-o-dead--lp-delayed-neil-leaves
They went downhill after kicking Neil Busch out of the band.  Every band needs a drug-addled member to keep the creative tension fresh.

Well being this was my first ...AYWKUBTTOTD show...they f'n rocked hard.  Was really a fun show.  My ears are still ringing a bit.  The did Source Tags & Codes from start to finish first then ran through a bunch of other tunes that kept the crowd going berserk.
Had pretty much the entire audience up on stage for the last song, somewhat hokey but at the same time, I really like when a band says FU to the line between the stage and audience

the 'new' bassist (been with them for 10 years now) rocked hard and even did some crowd surfing whilst still rocking the bottom end

Also the RnR hotel moved the ticket booth....so there is a lot more room in the back...so that helps a little, just a little.  Sound was tight thou
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Post by: Vas Deferens on March 28, 2014, 02:30:36 pm
their bassist is new-ish.....joined the band in 2011 (I know this cause I was reading wiki yesterday heh)

they sounded great,..was great to hear "Baudelaire" live.
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Post by: Unsanity on March 29, 2014, 08:12:42 pm
Its nice to hear Trail of Dead are good live now. I saw them several years ago at Black Cat with Witchcraft and they were mediocre to awful. They had too many people in the band. The sound was a big blob. Crowd didn't seem into it either. I do enjoy the "Source Tags and Codes" era a lot.
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Post by: emmanuel on March 30, 2014, 12:44:41 am
Its nice to hear Trail of Dead are good live now. I saw them several years ago at Black Cat with Witchcraft and they were mediocre to awful. They had too many people in the band. The sound was a big blob. Crowd didn't seem into it either. I do enjoy the "Source Tags and Codes" era a lot.

I saw them in 2000-2006 and then this week. I don't think it was a very good show. It was better because they crowd was into it, and they played "Source Tags and Codes" (which is the only reason I went), but otherwise, they had the same musical flaws as the last few shows.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on March 31, 2014, 10:54:45 am
Downtown Boys have gotten even better. Goddam.


Go see them if you can stomach being in the Blowtel. Opening for EMA who was also great at UHall a while ago.

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Post by: stevewizzle on April 04, 2014, 10:45:20 am
saw future islands last night at the crocodile in seattle. not only were they excellent (the live version of tin man was unreal), the venue was a perfect fit, the merch table repped some DMV gems (peals LP, for instance), and i wore my 930 t-shirt and never have received so many handshakes and fist-bumps in my life.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on April 04, 2014, 01:16:53 pm
and i wore my 930 t-shirt and never have received so many handshakes and fist-bumps in my life.
nice!
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Post by: James Ford on April 04, 2014, 01:39:25 pm
maybe they thought you were thatguy


and i wore my 930 t-shirt and never have received so many handshakes and fist-bumps in my life.
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Post by: stevewizzle on April 04, 2014, 02:51:16 pm
i'm not sure the point of posting that.

but most people i talked to drooled over the club.  thought it was cool... after i told him it was my first show at the venue, one of the croc workers talked up how great of a club 930 is and they hoped i had a similar experience.  i know it's total SOP on this site to bash DC venues, but most seattle venues pan pretty hard in comparison.
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Post by: heather on April 04, 2014, 03:09:00 pm
way to rep DC and 9:30! are you visiting or living in seattle?
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Post by: stevewizzle on April 04, 2014, 03:17:59 pm
way to rep DC and 9:30! are you visiting or living in seattle?

 ;D live here.  partner moved out for law school, i followed along.
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Post by: heather on April 04, 2014, 03:20:15 pm
lucky guy! i'm convinced i belong there... hopefully someday!
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Post by: stevewizzle on April 04, 2014, 04:37:59 pm
lucky guy! i'm convinced i belong there... hopefully someday!

i certainly feel that way.  i miss living in a slightly more urban setting, but it's a fine trade-off for everything else the PNW offers.
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Post by: James Ford on April 04, 2014, 05:17:27 pm
If you wanted urban, you should have moved to the neighborhood the Croc is in instead of the neighborhood the Tractor is in. Amirite?

lucky guy! i'm convinced i belong there... hopefully someday!

i certainly feel that way.  i miss living in a slightly more urban setting, but it's a fine trade-off for everything else the PNW offers.
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Post by: hutch on April 04, 2014, 05:25:36 pm
you'll never meet anyone from seattle who doesn't spend 24/7 talking about how great seattle is...

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Post by: James Ford on April 04, 2014, 05:30:21 pm
My brother hates it there and thinks a move back to upstate New York will cure his ills.

But he's an odd fellow.

I love Seattle but I'd take Portland over Seattle based on it being smaller.

you'll never meet anyone from seattle who doesn't spend 24/7 talking about how great seattle is...


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Post by: stevewizzle on April 04, 2014, 05:50:21 pm
If you wanted urban, you should have moved to the neighborhood the Croc is in instead of the neighborhood the Tractor is in. Amirite?

lucky guy! i'm convinced i belong there... hopefully someday!

i certainly feel that way.  i miss living in a slightly more urban setting, but it's a fine trade-off for everything else the PNW offers.

you're right, but probably won't be moving down next to the crocodile anytime soon. doesn't have much of a neighborhood feel, it's surrounded by a lot of hotels, and pricey.

you'll never meet anyone from seattle who doesn't spend 24/7 talking about how great seattle is...

i started this conversation by talking about how great DC is, you crotchety old man.  but seattle is pretty great ;)
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Post by: hutch on April 04, 2014, 11:18:40 pm


i started this conversation by talking about how great DC is, you crotchety old man.  but seattle is pretty great ;)

I'm extra aware of this Seattle bias given my partner is from Seattle.... its all I hear from her and her folks...

I must admit I did like Seattle ... just never known a place people are so proud to be from...
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Post by: atomic on April 04, 2014, 11:39:48 pm


i started this conversation by talking about how great DC is, you crotchety old man.  but seattle is pretty great ;)

I'm extra aware of this Seattle bias given my partner is from Seattle.... its all I hear from her and her folks...

I must admit I did like Seattle ... just never known a place people are so proud to be from...

You aren't married?  Are you a chick?  I can't believe a chick has such awful taste in music.
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Post by: stevewizzle on April 05, 2014, 02:28:09 am
i can see where you could draw that conclusion from that post atomic, but no, hutch is not a lesbian.

at least i don't think he is.
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Post by: stevewizzle on April 05, 2014, 02:30:53 am


i started this conversation by talking about how great DC is, you crotchety old man.  but seattle is pretty great ;)

I'm extra aware of this Seattle bias given my partner is from Seattle.... its all I hear from her and her folks...

I must admit I did like Seattle ... just never known a place people are so proud to be from...

i don't hear that from people very often, but rarely do i hear people complaining about the area. but locals do this post-pretentious thing on sunny days where they tell u it's always raining here. 
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Post by: betao on April 05, 2014, 08:40:58 am
Kraftwerk was really cool.

But my god, was that crowded. Way too crowded. I mean, I know it was sold out and all, but I don't think I've ever seen it that filled.

(in reference to the 10pm gig, although I imagine the 6pm show wasn't much different).
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Post by: hutch on April 05, 2014, 09:02:18 am
Let me be clear Seattle pride is a great thing... you want people to love where they live.....was just commenting about how it can be a bit overdone...I always consider moving to Seattle an option

My partner is my spouse and mother of my two children...we've lived together going on 12 years....maybe one day we'll get  a piece of paper..I really don't care about it..... jjust about every wedding I've gone to has been a boring chore and the divorces are starting to slowly roll in among my friends who got the piece of paper...
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Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 05, 2014, 09:50:41 am
Kraftwerk was really cool.

But my god, was that crowded. Way too crowded. I mean, I know it was sold out and all, but I don't think I've ever seen it that filled.

(in reference to the 10pm gig, although I imagine the 6pm show wasn't much different).

The early show was super-crowded, too.  Not queens-of-the-stoneage-crowded, but much more so than usual.  I ended up leaving before they were done.  2 hours of being that uncomfortable was more than enough.  Kraftwerk were really good though.  The 3-D stuff was pretty crazy at times.
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Post by: betao on April 05, 2014, 10:23:33 am
We left a little early too. I was getting tired of people having to push past you because it was that crowded. Just a public service announcement for concert goers: During an overly packed sold out gig, you can choose between either 1) having a good spot to see the show, or 2) being able to continuously get your beer throughout the night. You can't have both.
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Post by: set1914 on April 05, 2014, 11:06:35 am
Right there with you on this one. The wife and I went with 1. and got our drinks before the show started. Stayed till the end of the show and by that time up stairs had thinned out a bit. The only bad we had was having to deal with the drunk guy that could not dance, but still was and bumping in to everyone. It was a great show (was at the 10pm one) and still can not believe they played two solid hours. It was money well spent. Saw them the last time they played here and that show was great, but this one was way better.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 05, 2014, 11:15:12 am
I wonder if the downstairs was more crowded than usual due to people wanting to see the projections, as the balcony wasn't that packed where i was.
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Post by: dyecraig on April 05, 2014, 11:54:18 am
Kraftwerk early show - we were down front leaning on the rail stage right, plenty of mobility and breathing room except for the occasional drink runners going sideways.
The 3D was great (in a cheesy 50's way) from our vantage point (especially the satellite near-collision). 
I don't remember any merch last time ('04 or 5?), but after a fine dinner @ oohs & aahs (cash only) while trying to forget the hell-drive into town, I'll be fine with the free glasses.
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Post by: atomic on April 05, 2014, 08:07:51 pm
Let me be clear Seattle pride is a great thing... you want people to love where they live.....was just commenting about how it can be a bit overdone...I always consider moving to Seattle an option

My partner is my spouse and mother of my two children...we've lived together going on 12 years....maybe one day we'll get  a piece of paper..I really don't care about it..... jjust about every wedding I've gone to has been a boring chore and the divorces are starting to slowly roll in among my friends who got the piece of paper...

Most couples who aren't married separate by the time their children are 10.  Weddings are fun.  Unlimited booze, dancing, and a dj.  What more do you need?  Anyway I think girlfriend or my babies mommy are appropriate terms.
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Post by: hutch on April 05, 2014, 08:52:04 pm

Most couples who aren't married separate by the time their children are 10. 

Wait a minute didn't you say you were a divorcee?


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Post by: atomic on April 05, 2014, 10:49:58 pm

Most couples who aren't married separate by the time their children are 10. 

Wait a minute didn't you say you were a divorcee?




I was married 17 years and lived with my first wife before marriage for several years.  Didn't have any kids.  I don't know why you are turning this around on me.  Why didn't you get married before you had kids?  Seems like you should just go to the court house and get married.  You could have died in accident and there could have been legal problems for your babies mommy.  We'll I don't really care I don't know why I am giving you advice.  Just talking out my ass.   Just have never heard anyone call someone of the opposite sex their partner other than members of a law firm.

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Post by: hutch on April 05, 2014, 11:07:43 pm

Most couples who aren't married separate by the time their children are 10. 

Wait a minute didn't you say you were a divorcee?




I was married 17 years and lived with my first wife before marriage for several years.  Didn't have any kids.  I don't know why you are turning this around on me.  Why didn't you get married before you had kids?  Seems like you should just go to the court house and get married.  You could have died in accident and there could have been legal problems for your babies mommy.  We'll I don't really care I don't know why I am giving you advice.  Just talking out my ass.   Just have never heard anyone call someone of the opposite sex their partner other than members of a law firm.



Well I can let you know now......it should be somewhere in 9 years or so!

If I am in a relationship with someone and I call her my partner - and she is my legally registered partner- that is my business... if you don't like it...well....don't.

But it really takes some chutzpah for a person or imaginary computer character who had a failed marriage (was it 1 or 2 by the way?) to be carping about separation rates amongst legally unmarried couples.. and to try to diminish my partner as a mere "girlfriend" or "mommy of my babies"... boy. get the fuck out.
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Post by: atomic on April 06, 2014, 12:32:37 am

Most couples who aren't married separate by the time their children are 10. 

Wait a minute didn't you say you were a divorcee?




I was married 17 years and lived with my first wife before marriage for several years.  Didn't have any kids.  I don't know why you are turning this around on me.  Why didn't you get married before you had kids?  Seems like you should just go to the court house and get married.  You could have died in accident and there could have been legal problems for your babies mommy.  We'll I don't really care I don't know why I am giving you advice.  Just talking out my ass.   Just have never heard anyone call someone of the opposite sex their partner other than members of a law firm.



Well I can let you know now......it should be somewhere in 9 years or so!

If I am in a relationship with someone and I call her my partner - and she is my legally registered partner- that is my business... if you don't like it...well....don't.

But it really takes some chutzpah for a person or imaginary computer character who had a failed marriage (was it 1 or 2 by the way?) to be carping about separation rates amongst legally unmarried couples.. and to try to diminish my partner as a mere "girlfriend" or "mommy of my babies"... boy. get the fuck out.

She is your girlfriend.  You aren't engaged so she isn't your fiancee.  You aren't married so she isn't your wife.  I don't know what your argument is.  Partner is a term for people in a relationship who can't get married due to the laws restricting them from doing so.  I was married 17 years in my first marriage and you have been married zero years.  I don't get your point.  It is easy to not have a marriage end if you have never made a commitment to anyone.

I don't care what you do.  Your girlfriend is a single mom.   You have avoided getting married for some reason that you aren't sharing.   That seems like your issue.  Don't try and put your hang ups on me.
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Post by: James Ford on April 06, 2014, 07:48:24 am
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Post by: hutch on April 06, 2014, 09:28:00 am
  Partner is a term for people in a relationship who can't get married due to the laws restricting them from doing so. 

False.

But I could give a shit....
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 06, 2014, 11:30:32 am
im mcloving, all this post show banter . . . i need to go, to more shows.
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Post by: hutch on April 06, 2014, 11:42:39 am
well I'd love to hear anybody else's Dean Wareham show impressions but I seem to be the only one who made it?

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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 06, 2014, 11:58:17 am
and hutch . . . our faux sandbox fight about venues, has nothing to do with the fact that i care about said venue and distance from it to me, in relation to the ottobar.  i just do not like baltimore at all, or anything in it.  i hate the inner harbor, i hate the orioles, i hate the roads, i hate john waters, i hate the wire, i hate john hopkins, i hate the crime, i hate francis scott key, i hate crab cakes, i hate edgar allen poe, i hate the ravens.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 06, 2014, 12:18:45 pm
RFTC were pretty stellar. Dan Sartain was great as well. No post-set shenanigans from him this time though.
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Post by: hutch on April 06, 2014, 01:19:53 pm
and hutch . . . our faux sandbox fight about venues, has nothing to do with the fact that i care about said venue and distance from it to me, in relation to the ottobar.  i just do not like baltimore at all, or anything in it.  i hate the inner harbor, i hate the orioles, i hate the roads, i hate john waters, i hate the wire, i hate john hopkins, i hate the crime, i hate francis scott key, i hate crab cakes, i hate edgar allen poe, i hate the ravens.

I can understand that.

I take my sons to the Kennedy Krieger Center for Autism every few months. It requires me to cut through Baltimore and see the real Baltimore... heroin addicts...emaciated women teeter tottering around looking like ghouls..... people pounding malt 45s or whatever it is they drink at 8:30 am...its a level of seediness and poverty I have not seen anywhere else....Signs advertising 2 houses for 30K..buy one get one free!....tons of boarded up abandoned row houses....police cars everywhere...I'm not talking about 10 blocks either..it is a big, big area I am describing..

whenever I hear about how the US should help X country I always think of Baltimore now...I suppose its a lot like Detroit... years and years of going to the Orioles games I never realized what so much of Baltimore really was like...
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Post by: atomic on April 06, 2014, 05:25:17 pm
and hutch . . . our faux sandbox fight about venues, has nothing to do with the fact that i care about said venue and distance from it to me, in relation to the ottobar.  i just do not like baltimore at all, or anything in it.  i hate the inner harbor, i hate the orioles, i hate the roads, i hate john waters, i hate the wire, i hate john hopkins, i hate the crime, i hate francis scott key, i hate crab cakes, i hate edgar allen poe, i hate the ravens.

I can understand that.

I take my sons to the Kennedy Krieger Center for Autism every few months. It requires me to cut through Baltimore and see the real Baltimore... heroin addicts...emaciated women teeter tottering around looking like ghouls..... people pounding malt 45s or whatever it is they drink at 8:30 am...its a level of seediness and poverty I have not seen anywhere else....Signs advertising 2 houses for 30K..buy one get one free!....tons of boarded up abandoned row houses....police cars everywhere...I'm not talking about 10 blocks either..it is a big, big area I am describing..

whenever I hear about how the US should help X country I always think of Baltimore now...I suppose its a lot like Detroit... years and years of going to the Orioles games I never realized what so much of Baltimore really was like...

Baltimore is doing great don't compare it to Detroit it makes you look like an idiot.  DC is just as bad as Baltimore.  I am guessing you have never been to Anacostia or northern east Dc.  Look at the murders happening around 930 club area and get back to me.  930 club area has more murders than Ottobar area.  Let's not start this stupid argument again. 
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Post by: atomic on April 06, 2014, 05:26:33 pm
and hutch . . . our faux sandbox fight about venues, has nothing to do with the fact that i care about said venue and distance from it to me, in relation to the ottobar.  i just do not like baltimore at all, or anything in it.  i hate the inner harbor, i hate the orioles, i hate the roads, i hate john waters, i hate the wire, i hate john hopkins, i hate the crime, i hate francis scott key, i hate crab cakes, i hate edgar allen poe, i hate the ravens.

Do roads are the worst.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 06, 2014, 05:36:07 pm
I did see something really funny at the Kraftwerk show, tbh. With about 40 minutes left in the concert, I went downstairs to use the bathroom and I heard this guy retching something awful. So, I walked out and told the closest staff member, hey I think this guy is really sick in the bathroom because I wasn't certain if he was drunk or there was some slight chance this person was actually having a medical emergency. Julian ain't no snitch.

Anyway about 10 seconds after that the guy walks out I point them out to the staff member they walk up to them asking some question and the guy immediately YELLS, "yes, I was throwing up in the bathroom but I'm bulimic!" But the guy was a solid 300 pounds and clearly intoxicated. I start laughing hysterically, the staff member starts laughing hysterically, and I think they either threw the guy out or restamped his hands do he couldn't drink anymore, but it was just the funniest response there in the moment for him to claim to be bulimic and that's why he was throwing up.
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Post by: atomic on April 06, 2014, 07:22:26 pm
I did see something really funny at the Kraftwerk show, tbh. With about 40 minutes left in the concert, I went downstairs to use the bathroom and I heard this guy retching something awful. So, I walked out and told the closest staff member, hey I think this guy is really sick in the bathroom because I wasn't certain if he was drunk or there was some slight chance this person was actually having a medical emergency. Julian ain't no snitch.

Anyway about 10 seconds after that the guy walks out I point them out to the staff member they walk up to them asking some question and the guy immediately YELLS, "yes, I was throwing up in the bathroom but I'm bulimic!" But the guy was a solid 300 pounds and clearly intoxicated. I start laughing hysterically, the staff member starts laughing hysterically, and I think they either threw the guy out or restamped his hands do he couldn't drink anymore, but it was just the funniest response there in the moment for him to claim to be bulimic and that's why he was throwing up.

What are you,a  Narc?
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 06, 2014, 07:27:08 pm
I did see something really funny at the Kraftwerk show, tbh. With about 40 minutes left in the concert, I went downstairs to use the bathroom and I heard this guy retching something awful. So, I walked out and told the closest staff member, hey I think this guy is really sick in the bathroom because I wasn't certain if he was drunk or there was some slight chance this person was actually having a medical emergency. Julian ain't no snitch.

Anyway about 10 seconds after that the guy walks out I point them out to the staff member they walk up to them asking some question and the guy immediately YELLS, "yes, I was throwing up in the bathroom but I'm bulimic!" But the guy was a solid 300 pounds and clearly intoxicated. I start laughing hysterically, the staff member starts laughing hysterically, and I think they either threw the guy out or restamped his hands do he couldn't drink anymore, but it was just the funniest response there in the moment for him to claim to be bulimic and that's why he was throwing up.

What are you,a  Narc?
Yes, exactly, Atomic, I'm a NARC.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomic on April 06, 2014, 07:30:20 pm
I did see something really funny at the Kraftwerk show, tbh. With about 40 minutes left in the concert, I went downstairs to use the bathroom and I heard this guy retching something awful. So, I walked out and told the closest staff member, hey I think this guy is really sick in the bathroom because I wasn't certain if he was drunk or there was some slight chance this person was actually having a medical emergency. Julian ain't no snitch.

Anyway about 10 seconds after that the guy walks out I point them out to the staff member they walk up to them asking some question and the guy immediately YELLS, "yes, I was throwing up in the bathroom but I'm bulimic!" But the guy was a solid 300 pounds and clearly intoxicated. I start laughing hysterically, the staff member starts laughing hysterically, and I think they either threw the guy out or restamped his hands do he couldn't drink anymore, but it was just the funniest response there in the moment for him to claim to be bulimic and that's why he was throwing up.

What are you,a  Narc?
Yes, atomic, I'm a NARC.

Why didn't you just ask the guy if he was OK?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 06, 2014, 07:31:54 pm
Why didn't you just ask the guy if he was OK?
Because I'm a snitch, man, a SNITCH. Snitches snitch (then get stitches, possibly), ya dig?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on April 06, 2014, 08:05:50 pm
well I'd love to hear anybody else's Dean Wareham show impressions but I seem to be the only one who made it?



Hey Hutch,

I showed up late to this, during "Temperature's Rising". The last time I saw Dean was when he was in Luna at a 9:30 show I worked in 1997. I was unfamiliar with them, but I had seen Galaxie 500, and I enjoyed them a lot. Since then I've discovered everything he's done between Luna/Galaxie/solo. I had just come from Kraftwerk, which blew my mind...that being said, I enjoyed this show tremendously too. It seemed a little rough at a couple moments and I was a little disappointed that the solo during "Lost in Space" didn't really mimic the one on record (it's one of my all-time favorite songs), I thought the rest of it was pretty beautiful and I'm hoping that I can make to the August Black Cat show when they come back. I really enjoy Dean's stuff...great show. I'm glad that I caught the last 45 minutes.
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Post by: hutch on April 06, 2014, 09:27:21 pm
well I'd love to hear anybody else's Dean Wareham show impressions but I seem to be the only one who made it?



Hey Hutch,

I showed up late to this, during "Temperature's Rising". The last time I saw Dean was when he was in Luna at a 9:30 show I worked in 1997. I was unfamiliar with them, but I had seen Galaxie 500, and I enjoyed them a lot. Since then I've discovered everything he's done between Luna/Galaxie/solo. I had just come from Kraftwerk, which blew my mind...that being said, I enjoyed this show tremendously too. It seemed a little rough at a couple moments and I was a little disappointed that the solo during "Lost in Space" didn't really mimic the one on record (it's one of my all-time favorite songs), I thought the rest of it was pretty beautiful and I'm hoping that I can make to the August Black Cat show when they come back. I really enjoy Dean's stuff...great show. I'm glad that I caught the last 45 minutes.

I'm glad you made it and enjoyed it! Dean went through a rough patch but I think he's coming out OK as he settles into an elder statesman kind of role...

Hey is the Black Cat show really confirmed? Someone yelled that out and I couldn't tell what Dean was saying about it..

Did Dean play that solo on Lost in Space? I just ask cause i never keep straight who plays what but Sean Eden played some great stuff too...

Have you seen the Luna movie Tell Me Do You Miss Me?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on April 07, 2014, 12:45:31 pm
well I'd love to hear anybody else's Dean Wareham show impressions but I seem to be the only one who made it?



Hey Hutch,

I showed up late to this, during "Temperature's Rising". The last time I saw Dean was when he was in Luna at a 9:30 show I worked in 1997. I was unfamiliar with them, but I had seen Galaxie 500, and I enjoyed them a lot. Since then I've discovered everything he's done between Luna/Galaxie/solo. I had just come from Kraftwerk, which blew my mind...that being said, I enjoyed this show tremendously too. It seemed a little rough at a couple moments and I was a little disappointed that the solo during "Lost in Space" didn't really mimic the one on record (it's one of my all-time favorite songs), I thought the rest of it was pretty beautiful and I'm hoping that I can make to the August Black Cat show when they come back. I really enjoy Dean's stuff...great show. I'm glad that I caught the last 45 minutes.

I'm glad you made it and enjoyed it! Dean went through a rough patch but I think he's coming out OK as he settles into an elder statesman kind of role...

Hey is the Black Cat show really confirmed? Someone yelled that out and I couldn't tell what Dean was saying about it..

Did Dean play that solo on Lost in Space? I just ask cause i never keep straight who plays what but Sean Eden played some great stuff too...

Have you seen the Luna movie Tell Me Do You Miss Me?

As people like Lou Reed leave the planet, I'm so glad that there are still people Dean and bands like the Feelies. The Black Cat show isn't "officially" confirmed, but Dean did say that they were coming back in August to the BC.

I still haven't seen that movie...and I know I need to. I have a feeling I'd really enjoy it. Is it good?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on April 07, 2014, 04:22:28 pm

I still haven't seen that movie...and I know I need to. I have a feeling I'd really enjoy it. Is it good?

its good in a bittersweet way... any Luna fan will love it...also has some cool live footage..

if you're not against PMing me your snail mail address I will send you an extra DVD copy I have... its just sitting in my basement...
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Bagley on April 09, 2014, 04:59:00 pm
Big Luna fan from days of yore.  I didn't know what to expect from Dean.  Pleasantly surprised!
Always thought that he could of jammed out a little more with Luna.  I got it last Friday night.
It was as close as I'll ever get to a Velvet Underground show.  Lots of nice extended fuzzy guitar breaks.  Picked up his latest Jim James produced disc.  Nice stuff.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on April 09, 2014, 06:09:59 pm

I still haven't seen that movie...and I know I need to. I have a feeling I'd really enjoy it. Is it good?

its good in a bittersweet way... any Luna fan will love it...also has some cool live footage..

if you're not against PMing me your snail mail address I will send you an extra DVD copy I have... its just sitting in my basement...

Damn...I already bought a used copy on Amazon and it just arrived today! :) Thank you though!
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 09, 2014, 06:13:30 pm

if you're not against PMing me your snail mail address I will send you an extra DVD copy I have... its just sitting in my basement...
we will gladly take this off your hands.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2014, 08:06:37 pm

if you're not against PMing me your snail mail address I will send you an extra DVD copy I have... its just sitting in my basement...
we will gladly take this off your hands.

ok that is fine..... no problem
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: emmanuel on April 10, 2014, 10:44:20 am
ASMZ in Baltimore cancelled due to illness.  >:(   They might be back in May.

If anyone has info on DC and Philly, please share.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on April 16, 2014, 08:39:06 am
Well, the Black Lips were awesome!

So glad I pulled the trigger and went to the show... but crushingly hung-over*.

*note, before being judged by James Ford for being a bad parent, my wife and daughter are out of town this week visiting her parents.
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Post by: stevewizzle on April 16, 2014, 12:02:51 pm
Well, the Black Lips were awesome!

So glad I pulled the trigger and went to the show... but crushingly hung-over*.

*note, before being judged by James Ford for being a bad parent, my wife and daughter are out of town this week visiting her parents.

and you didn't go with them!?
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Post by: Yada on April 16, 2014, 12:03:54 pm
Well, the Black Lips were awesome!

So glad I pulled the trigger and went to the show... but crushingly hung-over*.

*note, before being judged by James Ford for being a bad parent, my wife and daughter are out of town this week visiting her parents.

and you didn't go with them!?

hahahah!! nice...

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Post by: James Ford on April 16, 2014, 12:17:06 pm
My in laws live near the Three Floyds Brewpub.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam fan on April 16, 2014, 01:19:21 pm
My in laws live near the Three Floyds Brewpub.

And you don't live in their basement?
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Post by: K8teebug on April 17, 2014, 11:56:18 am
Anyone go to Cloud Nothings last night?  Sorry to miss it..had to host relatives in from CA.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 17, 2014, 08:25:02 pm
Wish a bigger crowd had showed up for Protomartyr.  Not sure the openers helped.

Anyways, they were really good.  Will see them again.

Gold Bar is kinda like DC9 without the bouncy floor.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on April 17, 2014, 09:06:15 pm
what time did Protomartyr hit the stage?
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 18, 2014, 12:15:53 am
I completely forgot about that show. Spray Paint are great as well.


If you are going to loop, you really want to get there early for Jowe Head and the Fleeting Glimpses. Much, much better than last year and I loved last year.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 18, 2014, 01:10:19 pm
what time did Protomartyr hit the stage?

Not sure but it was pretty damn late. Just before midnight?
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 18, 2014, 01:13:48 pm
If you are going to loop, you really want to get there early for Jowe Head and the Fleeting Glimpses. Much, much better than last year and I loved last year.


Anywhere other than Joe's to eat around Metro Gallery?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Hexenjagd on April 18, 2014, 01:24:43 pm
Yes.  Chesapeake.  The Crown.  Korean places. Salvadorian place.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomic on April 18, 2014, 01:26:58 pm
If you are going to loop, you really want to get there early for Jowe Head and the Fleeting Glimpses. Much, much better than last year and I loved last year.


Anywhere other than Joe's to eat around Metro Gallery?

Best place to eat is accross the street Tapas Teatro.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 18, 2014, 01:40:42 pm
Thanks - will check all of those out.
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Post by: Hexenjagd on April 18, 2014, 01:46:52 pm
http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/31/351496/restaurant/Station-North/Jong-Kak-Baltimore
Jong Kak is the Korean spot I would recommend.

http://thechesapeakebaltimore.com/
Chesapeake is a bit pricey, but RIGHT across from Metro Gallery.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 21, 2014, 08:37:41 am
Loop's set was a bit short, it seemed.  Not horrifically short, especially for $17.  But it seemed some stuff was left out.  Robert also seemed super annoyed at his bassist.  Drummer had asked him to turn around at one point but that only lasted ~2 songs.

Good show.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Vas Deferens on April 21, 2014, 09:08:33 am
I think the Metro Gallery was the wrong venue for Loop....would have been better at the Ottobar.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Hexenjagd on April 21, 2014, 09:15:24 am
What was wrong with metro gallery?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Got Haggis? on April 21, 2014, 09:26:38 am
sight lines blow at metro for crowded shows
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Vas Deferens on April 21, 2014, 09:29:43 am
sound is also inferior to ottobar
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Post by: bearman🐻 on April 21, 2014, 09:47:46 am
I went to see Queens of the Stone Age w/ Warpaint on Thursday in San Francisco. All I can say is that I hope they finally announce something close enough in the area because I think a lot of you would really enjoy it. It was easily one of their best performances, and I've seen them a lot. "...Like Clockwork" just gets better and better. For as much as I enjoy their earlier work, the best songs of the night were things like "I Appear Missing" and "Kalopsia". And "I Wanna Make It Wit Chu".
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Vas Deferens on April 21, 2014, 09:48:44 am
^ did you like Bill Graham Civic?  ;D
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Post by: azaghal1981 on April 21, 2014, 10:01:18 am
I preferred Jowe Head/Fleeting Glimpses "Vertical Slum>Full Moon in my Pocket>Mother Sky" to Loop's "Mother Sky." Solid Loop set but yeah they definitely cut a song or two from the usual setlist.

Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 21, 2014, 11:24:14 am
sight lines blow at metro for crowded shows


Agreed.  Stage is way too low and those pillars make things tight.
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Post by: Hexenjagd on April 21, 2014, 11:31:20 am
I have often wondered why they don't raise the stage a foot or two.  They definitely have the ceiling space...
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on April 21, 2014, 11:57:58 am
^ did you like Bill Graham Civic?  ;D

As a venue of that size, I didn't mind it at all. My only gripes: sound was just OK. I've been spoiled lately I guess. And the merch line was kind of ridiculous. But I would definitely see another show there. I don't think the QOTSA show was even sold out though. Which makes me think maybe a venue like Merriweather or even Patriot Center would be too big for them to headline.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Hexenjagd on April 24, 2014, 10:27:50 am
Wow that was a cold noise show last night... Hey promoters, save the outdoor shows for May and beyond!

The wind was killer! It was still worth it!

(http://distilleryimage8.ak.instagram.com/185c483acb6c11e3b4da0002c9e198f8_8.jpg)
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Post by: emmanuel on April 24, 2014, 10:31:21 am
hahaha. I wish I was at that show, sounds it was a really cool night!

In his intro, the Windup Space guy mentioned it was too bad there were
two good shows in Baltimore yesterday. Chicago Underground was good,
although with a very small crowd, and no one bothered to ask for an encore.
(short night - 60 min. - no opener). but seated and warm!
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Hexenjagd on April 24, 2014, 10:32:23 am
It was really fun.  Too bad about the cold - but we survived. 
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomic on April 24, 2014, 10:48:03 am
sound is also inferior to ottobar

You guys complain too much.  The Metro Gallery is nicer place for sold-out shows as there are less people per square foot.  Plus it is cleaner. I never had problem seeing anyone there.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: StoneTheCrow on April 24, 2014, 05:27:23 pm
But you're also pretty tall so sight lines may not let be as much old an issue.

Their couches were nice. Gotta give credit there.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: K8teebug on April 25, 2014, 08:49:59 am
what time did Protomartyr hit the stage?

I wish I would have known about that one!  Would have loved to see them!
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on May 06, 2014, 09:41:53 am
For posterity, I just wanted to add something here about the Foo Fighters/Trouble Funk/Bad Brains show. It was easily one of the best concerts I've seen at the 9:30 Club. Not just because it was the Foos...really, the entire evening was about as good as they come. The Bad Brains stuff sounded so tight. Having Grohl on drums didn't hurt. Really, is there any band that Grohl plays drums for that doesn't instantly improve the second he's behind the kit? Trouble Funk was fantastic. Celebratory, fun, funky, and Seth got behind the drums for that. Big Tony seems like the sweetest, nicest guy. Who doesn't love a band that sums up so much of what the history of DC's music scene is about? Then there were the Foo Fighters. Grohl's solo intro was a respectful, heartfelt salute to his heritage, his home, the roots of his being. I get why so many people love the guy. He seems humble and music is his being. Whatever he performs, his soul goes into it. But then when the rest of the band came out they tore the roof clean off the place. No new songs, a healthy amount from "Wasting Light" but a pretty diverse setlist. They played like they were at Wembley. Hell, they probably played better, a powerhouse band pretty much at their peak. 2 solid hours, and they sounded great. I can't say I'd change much about last night other than maybe Cinco de Mayo wasn't the best night to do it. Some folks must have eaten refried beans or something. STINKY.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: atomic on May 06, 2014, 10:15:31 am
For posterity, I just wanted to add something here about the Foo Fighters/Trouble Funk/Bad Brains show. It was easily one of the best concerts I've seen at the 9:30 Club. Not just because it was the Foos...really, the entire evening was about as good as they come. The Bad Brains stuff sounded so tight. Having Grohl on drums didn't hurt. Really, is there any band that Grohl plays drums for that doesn't instantly improve the second he's behind the kit? Trouble Funk was fantastic. Celebratory, fun, funky, and Seth got behind the drums for that. Big Tony seems like the sweetest, nicest guy. Who doesn't love a band that sums up so much of what the history of DC's music scene is about? Then there were the Foo Fighters. Grohl's solo intro was a respectful, heartfelt salute to his heritage, his home, the roots of his being. I get why so many people love the guy. He seems humble and music is his being. Whatever he performs, his soul goes into it. But then when the rest of the band came out they tore the roof clean off the place. No new songs, a healthy amount from "Wasting Light" but a pretty diverse setlist. They played like they were at Wembley. Hell, they probably played better, a powerhouse band pretty much at their peak. 2 solid hours, and they sounded great. I can't say I'd change much about last night other than maybe Cinco de Mayo wasn't the best night to do it. Some folks must have eaten refried beans or something. STINKY.

Glad you had a good time.  Trouble Funk was the highlight of the 30th anniversary show.  I have never seen Bad Brains. Saw HR in the mid 80's.  Sounds like a very high energy line-up.
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Post by: andyrichter on May 06, 2014, 02:26:51 pm
Did HR actually put 25% effort in or did he slack off a bit from his baseline and go a full 10%?
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Post by: MindCage on May 07, 2014, 01:43:10 pm
Really, is there any band that Grohl plays drums for that doesn't instantly improve the second he's behind the kit?

Killing Joke and Nine Inch Nails
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 07, 2014, 01:54:23 pm
Wye Oak were excellent last night; and their new tunes fit in lovely with their old ones.  Jenn played bass and guitar, depending on the song.  Andy did his whole "I can play keyboards and drums at the same time" deal.  And bass on one song that featured a drum machine or backing track.  It was a nice turn out, and I know at least one bus came down from Baltimore for it.  Braids were laid back.  A three-piece featuring a singer/guitarist/synth player, a drummer, and an electronics guy; they had a trip hop throwback vibe to their sound.  The bass was definitely rocking the Club.  I wasn't able to stay for the whole Wye Oak set (I hurt my back and was still pretty bad off yesterday, since Pilates this morning I feel a lot better) but heard they played for around 90 minutes. 
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Post by: heather on May 07, 2014, 02:17:25 pm
Wye Oak were excellent last night; and their new tunes fit in lovely with their old ones.

i couldn't agree more.  this was my first proper wye oak show; the only other time i saw them was at merriweather opening for the national.  after waiting on a friend who didn't show, i caught braids' last song.  i foolishly gave up a good spot near food food and spent most of the night at the back.  thankfully, the music was wonderful despite the guy who was really into grinding & commenting about how no one else was dancing  :D

glad you're feeling better, hex.
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Post by: Unsanity on May 08, 2014, 04:04:31 am
Really, is there any band that Grohl plays drums for that doesn't instantly improve the second he's behind the kit?

Killing Joke and Nine Inch Nails

That 2003 s/t KJ album with Grohl was great! I think that album reinvigorated the band. I'm still bummed I didn't get to see them at Fletcher's or Black Cat on that tour.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 08, 2014, 07:13:01 am
Jaz was sick as hell that night.  Band was great, as always.
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Post by: Got Haggis? on May 08, 2014, 09:33:13 am
i'm still bitter about that black cat show they cancelled due to visa issues.  saw them the previous time they came through though.

and yeah i thought the s/t kj album with grohl on drums was great
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on May 08, 2014, 09:57:03 am
Killing Joke was my first 930 show way back in 91. 
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Post by: emmanuel on May 08, 2014, 11:34:07 am
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Mogwai was fun, earplugs were mandatory 

Best sound I've seen for a Mogwai show (and first time at 9:30). It was great! although not very different to the last five tours!
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 08, 2014, 03:22:32 pm
Wasn't really sure where to put this, but I was reading this review of QOTSA show from a couple nights ago. The guy says that Josh Homme's refusal to play on a Les Paul, Strat, or even an SG is detrimental to his sound up on stage. What the crap? Has anyone ever thought Josh in particular sounded the worst on stage? If anything I always wondered by Troy's guitar always seemed lower than almost everything else on stage and HE generally is playing on a Telecaster or Les Paul. Weird. Just an interesting take.

http://chicagoist.com/2014/05/07/queens_of_the_stone_age.php
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 08, 2014, 04:26:57 pm
I am not a QOTSA fan but my two cents:
No. The author isnt taking into account (in regards to tone/sound): Amp model, Pedals, mic placement, settings on the sound board (maybe his channel had EQ settings different than the other guitarists) and a myriad of other factors.  I am sure Josh knows what sound he wants (or his techs do) and he uses the guitar(s) best suited for it.  I would never say that the only three guitars with good tones are strats, Les Pauls, and SGs.  No way.  That leaves out like 98% of the guitars out there.  WHat about Jaguars?  Jazzmasters? rickenbackers?  PRS? 

I am looking through a list of his equipment (http://equipboard.com/pros/josh-homme)... Not bad. 

Also LOL at the author mentioning that you can get a different sound mix based on where in the club you are.  Of course.  That is literally every venue on Earth.  It is going to be optimally mixed for the spot the sound guy is at.  Any other spot might have variances because of speaker location, reverberation, etc.

Lastly, this author is pretty bad.  I barely made it through the whole review.  Here is my favorite awkward sentence:
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The rhythm section of Jon Theodore on drums and Michael Shuman on bass is particularly impressive as they pound away at the foundation that allows the whole thing to work.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on May 08, 2014, 04:52:37 pm
I am not a QOTSA fan but my two cents:
No. The author isnt taking into account (in regards to tone/sound): Amp model, Pedals, mic placement, settings on the sound board (maybe his channel had EQ settings different than the other guitarists) and a myriad of other factors.  I am sure Josh knows what sound he wants (or his techs do) and he uses the guitar(s) best suited for it.  I would never say that the only three guitars with good tones are strats, Les Pauls, and SGs.  No way.  That leaves out like 98% of the guitars out there.  WHat about Jaguars?  Jazzmasters? rickenbackers?  PRS? 

I am looking through a list of his equipment (http://equipboard.com/pros/josh-homme)... Not bad. 

Also LOL at the author mentioning that you can get a different sound mix based on where in the club you are.  Of course.  That is literally every venue on Earth.  It is going to be optimally mixed for the spot the sound guy is at.  Any other spot might have variances because of speaker location, reverberation, etc.

Lastly, this author is pretty bad.  I barely made it through the whole review.  Here is my favorite awkward sentence:
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The rhythm section of Jon Theodore on drums and Michael Shuman on bass is particularly impressive as they pound away at the foundation that allows the whole thing to work.

No reviewer can really put into words what a great QOTSA performance is like. Maybe Lester Bangs, and he's dead. I'm still hopeful that they'll announce some more shows, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by: matts on May 08, 2014, 04:56:35 pm
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Mogwai was fun, earplugs were mandatory 

Best sound I've seen for a Mogwai show (and first time at 9:30). It was great! although not very different to the last five tours!

I went to a Mogwai show without earplugs exactly 1 time and learned a lesson. Sound was very good last night. Of the 7 or so times I've seen them, this was the only time they didn't play Fear Satan. Bat Cat made up for it though.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 08, 2014, 04:57:38 pm
I am not a QOTSA fan but my two cents:
No. The author isnt taking into account (in regards to tone/sound): Amp model, Pedals, mic placement, settings on the sound board (maybe his channel had EQ settings different than the other guitarists) and a myriad of other factors.  I am sure Josh knows what sound he wants (or his techs do) and he uses the guitar(s) best suited for it.  I would never say that the only three guitars with good tones are strats, Les Pauls, and SGs.  No way.  That leaves out like 98% of the guitars out there.  WHat about Jaguars?  Jazzmasters? rickenbackers?  PRS? 

I am looking through a list of his equipment (http://equipboard.com/pros/josh-homme)... Not bad. 

Also LOL at the author mentioning that you can get a different sound mix based on where in the club you are.  Of course.  That is literally every venue on Earth.  It is going to be optimally mixed for the spot the sound guy is at.  Any other spot might have variances because of speaker location, reverberation, etc.

Lastly, this author is pretty bad.  I barely made it through the whole review.  Here is my favorite awkward sentence:
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The rhythm section of Jon Theodore on drums and Michael Shuman on bass is particularly impressive as they pound away at the foundation that allows the whole thing to work.
Yeah, I feel like he got the new album, and owns SFTD and his boss asked him to go review this concert. He applauds Homme's sound then says that it's a detriment to live the live experience. Whatever.

Can they just have a monthly residency at 930. How do we get that petition going.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on May 08, 2014, 04:58:24 pm
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Mogwai was fun, earplugs were mandatory 

Best sound I've seen for a Mogwai show (and first time at 9:30). It was great! although not very different to the last five tours!

I went to a Mogwai show without earplugs exactly 1 time and learned a lesson. Sound was very good last night. Of the 7 or so times I've seen them, this was the only time they didn't play Fear Satan. Bat Cat made up for it though.

The Beastie Boys at the Aragon in 1992 taught me that earplugs are necessary. My ears rang for FOUR days. I didn't want to go through that again.
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Post by: K8teebug on May 09, 2014, 08:01:53 am
That happened to me after one of the Les Savy Fav/Enon shows at the Black Cat. 

I'm so glad I wore them to Mogwai back in the early 00's.  Still the loudest show I've ever attended!  I probably should have doubled up for that show (earplugs and earmuffs!)

I probably should wear them since I work in environmental safety :)
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Post by: hutch on May 09, 2014, 08:05:14 am
personally i think a band should never play so loud they hurt the people paying for them to play...

people should not need to wear ear plugs in order not to lose their hearing..

that ringing you hear for days is damage to your ears...tinnitus results and its a bitch..
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Post by: bearman🐻 on May 09, 2014, 08:13:31 am
personally i think a band should never play so loud they hurt the people paying for them to play...

people should not need to wear ear plugs in order not to lose their hearing..

that ringing you hear for days is damage to your ears...tinnitus results and its a bitch..

Although I agree on some levels, I also understand that some artists feel their music needs a certain dB level to achieve what they're trying to do. When I saw Sugar in 1993 and they played the "Beaster" EP, the volume definitely contributed to how powerful the whole experience was. Same thing with My Bloody Valentine. I cannot imagine a "quieter" Dinosaur Jr. show because J. Mascis' guitar sounds so good cranked. Otherwise it'd just be like "Battle of the Gentle Bands", and he'd be "Featherwash". 
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Post by: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 08:58:24 am
You call them artists, I call them assholes.

I'm with Hutch.

personally i think a band should never play so loud they hurt the people paying for them to play...

people should not need to wear ear plugs in order not to lose their hearing..

that ringing you hear for days is damage to your ears...tinnitus results and its a bitch..

Although I agree on some levels, I also understand that some artists feel their music needs a certain dB level to achieve what they're trying to do. When I saw Sugar in 1993 and they played the "Beaster" EP, the volume definitely contributed to how powerful the whole experience was. Same thing with My Bloody Valentine. I cannot imagine a "quieter" Dinosaur Jr. show because J. Mascis' guitar sounds so good cranked. Otherwise it'd just be like "Battle of the Gentle Bands", and he'd be "Featherwash". 
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Post by: K8teebug on May 09, 2014, 09:29:11 am
personally i think a band should never play so loud they hurt the people paying for them to play...

people should not need to wear ear plugs in order not to lose their hearing..

that ringing you hear for days is damage to your ears...tinnitus results and its a bitch..

People should be wearing earplugs at all shows.  A typical rock concert is around 102-115dB.  the OSHA permissible exposure limit is 90dB over an 8 hour work period (what you can be exposed to without wearing any hearing protection). You can be exposed to 115dB for no more than 15 minutes before you should wear earplugs.  So, that is why you should wear earplugs at shows.
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Post by: emmanuel on May 09, 2014, 10:23:28 am
I can't understand anyone not choosing to wear earplugs. I guess not everyone will lose hearing capabilities at the same rate, but this is not something I really want to test.

Even more, I can't understand why bands like Mogwai, or the venue/promoter, are not offering free earplugs at the door. Some bands did that lately, although I can't remember who. This is not an issue for most regulars here, but I didn't wear earplugs for my first two years or so of shows, assuming that "adult" promoters would not allow unacceptable levels, but now we know that no one really cares about that.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on May 09, 2014, 10:24:22 am
Philly got Fear Satan AND Cody last night.

Not the best Mogwai set (I wasn't into 4 or 5 songs, esp. Mexican Grand Prix)




Best sound I've seen for a Mogwai show (and first time at 9:30). It was great! although not very different to the last five tours!

I went to a Mogwai show without earplugs exactly 1 time and learned a lesson. Sound was very good last night. Of the 7 or so times I've seen them, this was the only time they didn't play Fear Satan. Bat Cat made up for it though.
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Post by: emmanuel on May 09, 2014, 10:24:33 am
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Post by: K8teebug on May 09, 2014, 10:30:35 am
I can't understand anyone not choosing to wear earplugs. I guess not everyone will lose hearing capabilities at the same rate, but this is not something I really want to test.

Even more, I can't understand why bands like Mogwai, or the venue/promoter, are not offering free earplugs at the door. Some bands did that lately, although I can't remember who. This is not an issue for most regulars here, but I didn't wear earplugs for my first two years or so of shows, assuming that "adult" promoters would not allow unacceptable levels, but now we know that no one really cares about that.

Agreed.  Especially because earplugs are cheap.  I didn't wear them when I was younger.  But, I'm also deaf in my right ear, so nothing "seemed" loud to me then.

Something to also think about when you're listening to music in the car.  Cars with loud music can be just as loud.

Safety lesson over for the day :)
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Post by: MindCage on May 09, 2014, 10:41:35 am
i'm still bitter about that black cat show they cancelled due to visa issues.  saw them the previous time they came through though.

and yeah i thought the s/t kj album with grohl on drums was great


I was super bummed they missed getting their visas in time for that show!  I did happen to catch them this last tour last April in Philly when they had CZAR on tour with them and between the two bands my face was melted and my ears were filled with delight.

Grohl on the KJ was an awesome and one of my favorites, but I don't think it improved Killing Joke.  It wasn't like when I saw QOTSA in front of 120 or so people at the 930 Club opening for VAST. The next time they came through "Music For the Deaf" was released and Dave was on tour playing drums since he did the album. Totally different story. He made that band shine and the show was beyond sold out!



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Post by: MindCage on May 09, 2014, 10:44:23 am
I am not a QOTSA fan but my two cents:
No. The author isnt taking into account (in regards to tone/sound): Amp model, Pedals, mic placement, settings on the sound board (maybe his channel had EQ settings different than the other guitarists) and a myriad of other factors.  I am sure Josh knows what sound he wants (or his techs do) and he uses the guitar(s) best suited for it.  I would never say that the only three guitars with good tones are strats, Les Pauls, and SGs.  No way.  That leaves out like 98% of the guitars out there.  WHat about Jaguars?  Jazzmasters? rickenbackers?  PRS? 

I am looking through a list of his equipment (http://equipboard.com/pros/josh-homme)... Not bad. 

Also LOL at the author mentioning that you can get a different sound mix based on where in the club you are.  Of course.  That is literally every venue on Earth.  It is going to be optimally mixed for the spot the sound guy is at.  Any other spot might have variances because of speaker location, reverberation, etc.

Lastly, this author is pretty bad.  I barely made it through the whole review.  Here is my favorite awkward sentence:
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The rhythm section of Jon Theodore on drums and Michael Shuman on bass is particularly impressive as they pound away at the foundation that allows the whole thing to work.

The first time I went and saw QOTSA was because a discussion a friend and I had about their gear/amp setups and it was something I wanted to check out.
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Post by: James Ford on May 09, 2014, 10:53:16 am
The music sounds like SHIT if you have earplugs in. So much of the sound quality is drowned out.

Why can't the bands just play at lower volumes?
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Post by: emmanuel on May 09, 2014, 11:15:44 am
The music sounds like SHIT if you have earplugs in. So much of the sound quality is drowned out.

Why can't the bands just play at lower volumes?

I partially agree, but I do not think it will ever become true in practice. Certainly a few of these bands want to be famous for their "full body experience". And even for instance if Mogwai played half as loud, I would still use earplugs. There are very few rock shows where I don't use earplugs.

That's one of the reason I record shows, it is sometimes much better on the recording, at a decent level, and without earplugs of course.
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Post by: slappy on May 09, 2014, 11:16:47 am
Even more, I can't understand why bands like Mogwai, or the venue/promoter, are not offering free earplugs at the door. Some bands did that lately, although I can't remember who.
MBV does. If you're playing loud enough to need earplugs, you better make sure you're compensating for it. The 'Holocaust section' of 'You Made Me Realise' is worth the earplugs.
Mogwai, MBV, and Motörhead are about the only bands I have no problems wearing earplugs.
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 09, 2014, 11:28:49 am
The music sounds like SHIT if you have earplugs in. So much of the sound quality is drowned out.

Why can't the bands just play at lower volumes?
They have earplugs that dont "drown out the sound quality."  But you have to pay good money for them.  I have a pair of Westone earplugs.  The earplugs were custom fitted to my ears.  And they have a filter (-25 db).  What it does is lower the volume, without compromising the sound.  I had to go to an audiologist to get mine made.  They ran me about $150 for the earplugs and filters.  Replacement filters run $35 per filter.  I recommend them to anyone who goes to a lot of shows, wants to retain their hearing, and wants to hear all of the performance with no blocking. 
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Post by: bearman🐻 on May 09, 2014, 11:57:50 am
http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ETY-Plugs-Protection-Earplugs/dp/B0044DEESS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399650659&sr=8-1&keywords=etymotic+ear+plugs

For a more affordable but great ear plug, I recommend these. You can adjust how much sound you want to drown out...I find them to be really durable and excellent. If you find most ear plugs make the music sound bad, give these a try.
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Post by: Yada on May 09, 2014, 12:09:55 pm
sweetcell recommended a good pair a few weeks ago to me that I purchased... I think they were roughly $15 a did a helluva job compared to my old **block out snoring sounds** ear plugs.
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Post by: hutch on May 09, 2014, 12:34:22 pm
The music sounds like SHIT if you have earplugs in. So much of the sound quality is drowned out.

Why can't the bands just play at lower volumes?

completely agree. although i understand if you use professional high grade plugs maybe it sounds better? to me with regular ear plugs it just sounds so muffled...too bassy.. you lose all the treble or highs...i hate it..


its just plain negligent for bands to play music too loud so it hurts people and takes away their hearing or gives them tinnitus for life...

if you're going to do that you should have to warn people before the show and give them free earplugs....good ones too!...honestly maybe even print it on the tickets in big red letters.. they sure tell us we can't take pictures or anything ..they have no problems putting signs about that or having a disclaimer about this or that..but when it comes to people's hearing NOTHING.

everyone is an inexperienced concertgoer at some point! not to mention alcohol is so often involved with people's concertgoing that people are not necessarily making the brightest decisions...

here lets put on a show for you, have bars everywhere and blow out the sound for you! you're welcome!

everytime you hear ringing in your ears the next day that ain't the weather report..its permanent hearing loss.. it might not mean that much to you now but i sure do believe its going to add up when you're older....

the soundmen should really be held liable....at the end of the day they are the ones..they can say they are following the orders

the worst are the amateurish bands where one prima donna wants to be heard over the rest.. so then the other schmoe is like "no , turn me up soundman!" and it goes on like that until by the end its insanely loud and distorted all around

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Post by: bearman🐻 on May 09, 2014, 12:41:39 pm
The music sounds like SHIT if you have earplugs in. So much of the sound quality is drowned out.

Why can't the bands just play at lower volumes?
the soundmen should really be held liable....at the end of the day they are the ones..they can say they are following the orders

the worst are the amateurish bands where one prima donna wants to be heard over the rest.. so then the other schmoe is like "no , turn me up soundman!" and it goes on like that until by the end its insanely loud and distorted all around



I disagree. A soundman's job is to do the best with what he/she has to work with. It's a tough and thankless job because one spot in the room may sound great while other spots may be abysmal. Many times they're at the mercy of the band that is employing them. Holding them liable is ridiculous. No one buys a ticket to see a soundman do his or her job.
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Post by: hutch on May 09, 2014, 12:53:48 pm
The music sounds like SHIT if you have earplugs in. So much of the sound quality is drowned out.

Why can't the bands just play at lower volumes?
the soundmen should really be held liable....at the end of the day they are the ones..they can say they are following the orders

the worst are the amateurish bands where one prima donna wants to be heard over the rest.. so then the other schmoe is like "no , turn me up soundman!" and it goes on like that until by the end its insanely loud and distorted all around



I disagree. A soundman's job is to do the best with what he/she has to work with. It's a tough and thankless job because one spot in the room may sound great while other spots may be abysmal. Many times they're at the mercy of the band that is employing them. Holding them liable is ridiculous. No one buys a ticket to see a soundman do his or her job.

at the end of the day they should not  move the knobs to a level that hurts people...

 i don't believe in "due obedience" when it hurts others... 


of course its not all black and white.. if you're that guy standing next to the speakers all night long well whaddaya expect?
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Post by: matts on May 09, 2014, 03:53:43 pm
The music sounds like SHIT if you have earplugs in. So much of the sound quality is drowned out.

Why can't the bands just play at lower volumes?
the soundmen should really be held liable....at the end of the day they are the ones..they can say they are following the orders

the worst are the amateurish bands where one prima donna wants to be heard over the rest.. so then the other schmoe is like "no , turn me up soundman!" and it goes on like that until by the end its insanely loud and distorted all around



I disagree. A soundman's job is to do the best with what he/she has to work with. It's a tough and thankless job because one spot in the room may sound great while other spots may be abysmal. Many times they're at the mercy of the band that is employing them. Holding them liable is ridiculous. No one buys a ticket to see a soundman do his or her job.

at the end of the day they should not  move the knobs to a level that hurts people...

 i don't believe in "due obedience" when it hurts others... 


of course its not all black and white.. if you're that guy standing next to the speakers all night long well whaddaya expect?

Maybe the knobs should stop at 9.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on May 09, 2014, 04:19:00 pm
Looking into some of those better plugs you guys recommended
these plugs (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H2F87I8?psc=1) look nice and have a good carrying case

I truly hate what the cheapo plugs do to the sound
I found myself taking them out a couple times as just sounded like I was listening to a band in another room.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on May 09, 2014, 04:20:21 pm
.. if you're that guy standing next to the speakers all night long well whaddaya expect?

you tend to be that guy at 930 shows  :-\
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Post by: atomic on May 09, 2014, 04:46:59 pm
Hutch was the one who argued with me about Jesus and Mary Chain not being too loud and he was wearing ear plugs.  I agree with James that bands shouldn't play so loud that you need ear plugs. I  have never used any.  Only a couple of bands have played so loud that I wish I had them.  Jesus and Mary Chains recent show and Soundgarden show back in the early 90's come to mind off hand. 
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Post by: hutch on May 09, 2014, 08:33:16 pm
.. if you're that guy standing next to the speakers all night long well whaddaya expect?

you tend to be that guy at 930 shows  :-\

geez can't get away with anything!  ;D

but with all due respect I wear earplugs...
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Post by: hutch on May 09, 2014, 08:37:22 pm
Hutch was the one who argued with me about Jesus and Mary Chain not being too loud and he was wearing ear plugs.  I agree with James that bands shouldn't play so loud that you need ear plugs. I  have never used any.  Only a couple of bands have played so loud that I wish I had them.  Jesus and Mary Chains recent show and Soundgarden show back in the early 90's come to mind off hand. 

lies lies lies!!!  ;D :D ;)

you said that it was so loud that the sound was all distorted and you couldn't hear the vocals... i said that was not true.... i then said i had some video and i had watched it and the vocals where clear.. however, i would not be surprised if the sound mix got more messed up or if it was different where you were standing...

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Post by: Nigel Tufnel on May 11, 2014, 01:33:00 pm
Maybe the knobs should stop at 9.

But these go to 11.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 11, 2014, 01:53:22 pm
Maybe the knobs should stop at 9.

But these go to 11.
Well played. I like to think you registered this account just in hopes of this one day happening.
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Post by: eros on May 12, 2014, 07:06:16 am
Elbow is a really really really good band.  That is all.
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Post by: K8teebug on May 12, 2014, 08:23:18 am
Hutch was the one who argued with me about Jesus and Mary Chain not being too loud and he was wearing ear plugs.  I agree with James that bands shouldn't play so loud that you need ear plugs. I  have never used any.  Only a couple of bands have played so loud that I wish I had them.  Jesus and Mary Chains recent show and Soundgarden show back in the early 90's come to mind off hand. 

All shows are loud enough that you should be wearing earplugs.  Even if you think you don't need them.
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Post by: James Ford on May 12, 2014, 10:24:55 am
Maybe that should be amended to "all rock shows at the 9:30 Club".

I go to shows at Jammin Java, Iota, Gypsy Sally's...never a need for earplugs. Maybe they think they don't need to make it as loud because they are smaller venues?

Hutch was the one who argued with me about Jesus and Mary Chain not being too loud and he was wearing ear plugs.  I agree with James that bands shouldn't play so loud that you need ear plugs. I  have never used any.  Only a couple of bands have played so loud that I wish I had them.  Jesus and Mary Chains recent show and Soundgarden show back in the early 90's come to mind off hand. 

All shows are loud enough that you should be wearing earplugs.  Even if you think you don't need them.
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Post by: K8teebug on May 12, 2014, 11:28:28 am
I would guess that they may be okay.  Only way to tell is to check with a sound level meter and/or wear a noise dosimeter at shows. 

Anything 100dB and over and you should really be wearing earplugs (you can be exposed to 100dB for 2 hours before it starts to damage your hearing)

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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on May 12, 2014, 12:52:55 pm
...or wear a noise dosimeter at shows. 

Now that sounds like a great way to pick up chicks  ;)
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Post by: K8teebug on May 12, 2014, 02:27:08 pm
They're tiny :)
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Post by: atomic on May 12, 2014, 04:05:10 pm
Hutch was the one who argued with me about Jesus and Mary Chain not being too loud and he was wearing ear plugs.  I agree with James that bands shouldn't play so loud that you need ear plugs. I  have never used any.  Only a couple of bands have played so loud that I wish I had them.  Jesus and Mary Chains recent show and Soundgarden show back in the early 90's come to mind off hand. 

All shows are loud enough that you should be wearing earplugs.  Even if you think you don't need them.

Then why even go? I can tell you didn't need any at the Magnetic Fields. 
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Post by: stevewizzle on May 12, 2014, 05:58:51 pm
...or wear a noise dosimeter at shows. 

Now that sounds like a great way to pick up chicks  ;)

there's an app for that
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Post by: dyecraig on May 12, 2014, 06:13:50 pm
Elbow is a really really really good band.  That is all.
indeed
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b1kICVxyq60/U3FGYu2nzXI/AAAAAAAAXVQ/cH1zJySa9W8/s1600/IMG_6298.JPG)
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Post by: Vas Deferens on May 13, 2014, 09:59:16 am
haven't listened to the new album, but oh boy, they are a little too middle-of-the-road for me now.

John Grant was awesome, though


Elbow is a really really really good band.  That is all.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on May 13, 2014, 10:50:38 am
haven't listened to the new album, but oh boy, they are a little too middle-of-the-road for me now.

John Grant was awesome, though


Elbow is a really really really good band.  That is all.
I tried to tell you this roughly five years ago.
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Post by: dyecraig on May 13, 2014, 10:59:14 am
haven't listened to the new album, but oh boy, they are a little too middle-of-the-road for me now.

John Grant was awesome, though


Elbow is a really really really good band.  That is all.
did you hear john grant @ u st. last summer w/full band?
that was awesome

elbow can lean a bit MOR at times, but sometimes I feel like a glass of wine instead of an i.p.a.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on May 13, 2014, 11:10:40 am
^ nope, was overseas June of last year  :'(

would have been nice to hear his more electronic songs
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 15, 2014, 06:02:56 am
Morcheeba was great tonight even without their DJ, who couldn't get his visa stamped in order to enter the country.  In the words of the guitarist "He's just a DJ who likes to smoke dope and break the law".  Haven't seen Morcheeba in awhile, but Skye is in great voice and always impressed with guitar players skills.

Have to say that if I were an warm act, I much rather being playing on a bill at the Lincoln than the club.  Something about those seats that keeps the chatter down from the audience during warm act sets, where as a the club the chatter would have been more obvious.  Was impressed with Conner Youngblood's set, even if it was a little rough around the edges.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 15, 2014, 07:17:03 am
First Swans show last night.  Didn't know any of the material they played but the 2 hours flew right by.

I guess my earplugs earned their keep last night - ears are barely ringing.
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Post by: Got Haggis? on May 15, 2014, 09:33:03 am
I am a huge swans fan and even I couldn't recognize some of the songs.  I think I only knew 3. I've only listened to the new album twice though.

i was joking beforehand that they were going to play all their 30 minute long songs...didn't expect them to really do that
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Post by: Vas Deferens on May 15, 2014, 09:56:39 am
they did 2 new ones not on the new album   :o

probably the best sounding Swans show at the Black Cat (out of the 3)
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 15, 2014, 10:15:50 am
Despite the volume and earplugs the sound was amazingly clear.
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Post by: emmanuel on May 15, 2014, 10:17:58 am
was there a setlist on stage with the name of the new songs?
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Post by: Got Haggis? on May 15, 2014, 04:19:07 pm
this is the only thing i've seen: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/swans/2014/black-cat-washington-dc-43c3539b.html
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Post by: azaghal1981 on May 15, 2014, 04:47:00 pm
Seems right.


Six songs, 126 minutes.


Top that, jambands.


I read a tweet yesterday calling them a "spooky jamband" which is not that far from the truth. :)
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 16, 2014, 12:40:10 pm
Drone Jam.

I loved the set.  I noticed the air was on (maybe not the whole time, but I noticed it near the merch table and by the bathrooms at different points in the night).  Music was loud and clear. 

Gira seemed like a nice guy.  He was signing stuff after the show and I was able to snag a poster and an autograph. 

Plus I got to hang with showlist, which is always cool! 
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Post by: hutch on May 16, 2014, 12:47:12 pm
Drone Jam.

I loved the set.  I noticed the air was on (maybe not the whole time, but I noticed it near the merch table and by the bathrooms at different points in the night).  Music was loud and clear. 

Gira seemed like a nice guy.  He was signing stuff after the show and I was able to snag a poster and an autograph. 

Plus I got to hang with showlist, which is always cool! 

did you get the showlist doormat?
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 16, 2014, 12:51:58 pm
Doormat?  You mean the bottle opener?  I got that a long time ago.
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Post by: dyecraig on May 16, 2014, 01:13:26 pm
Drone Jam.

I loved the set.  I noticed the air was on (maybe not the whole time, but I noticed it near the merch table and by the bathrooms at different points in the night).  Music was loud and clear. 

Gira seemed like a nice guy.  He was signing stuff after the show and I was able to snag a poster and an autograph. 

Plus I got to hang with showlist, which is always cool! 
I pre-ordered the cd/dvd from 'young god' and it arrived pre-signed, a nice surprise
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Post by: azaghal1981 on May 16, 2014, 03:43:46 pm
Yeah he seems pretty personable. Another friend got a copy of his novel signed.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on May 16, 2014, 03:47:18 pm
I noticed the air was on (maybe not the whole time, but I noticed it near the merch table and by the bathrooms at different points in the night).

Came on around the 3rd song.  I was, mercifully, right under a vent so the remainder of the set was pretty comfortable.  Was getting pretty unbearable up until then. 
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Post by: azaghal1981 on May 16, 2014, 05:13:37 pm
It went on less than 1 second after I told Joe it was hot as shit. Doubt my comment had anything to do with it but the timing was pretty funny.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 20, 2014, 01:46:11 pm
Modest Mouse was really good last night. Least sloppy I've ever seen them and a nice mix of songs from all the LPs.
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 20, 2014, 03:04:39 pm
The High Zero fundraiser show was a lot of fun.  Matmos played some "experiments" they are getting ready for playing in Europe this summer.  The songs sounded great, the videos were entertaining, and the guys were really nice (took time to talk to us about random stuff while getting ready to play, and let me and Azag sit on the stage while they performed (most of the crowd sat on the ground for their set, per the band's request)).

Dan Deacon did a cool quadraphonic sounds set.  No songs, just bleeps and bloops soaring overhead.

Horse Lords rocked as always. 

my vantage point for Matmos
(http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-prn/927959_246187648917707_442859553_n.jpg)
(http://photos-h.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-prn/10326359_1450052511902215_941759968_n.jpg)
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Post by: hutch on May 20, 2014, 07:18:22 pm
[quote author=престижний Мисливець на відьом link=topic=22716.msg387179#msg387179

my vantage point for Matmos

[/quote]

you look angry...
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 20, 2014, 07:30:03 pm
What?  I am not in either picture that I posted.  Or are you referring to my Instagram account?
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Post by: hutch on May 20, 2014, 07:32:50 pm
What?  I am not in either picture that I posted.  Or are you referring to my Instagram account?

oh...that balding guy is not you then?

well nevermind....
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 20, 2014, 07:36:45 pm
No, that is Martin from Matmos.  I was taking the pictures, from the front of the stage. 
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Post by: hutch on May 20, 2014, 07:39:47 pm
No, that is Martin from Matmos.  I was taking the pictures, from the front of the stage. 


I got nothing.  ;)
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Post by: K8teebug on May 21, 2014, 08:19:18 am
[quote author=престижний Мисливець на відьом link=topic=22716.msg387179#msg387179

Dan Deacon did a cool quadraphonic sounds set.  No songs, just bleeps and bloops soaring overhead.

[/quote]

No songs?  Just bleeps?  This guy has everyone hoodwinked.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on May 21, 2014, 08:52:39 am
No, that is Martin from Matmos.  I was taking the pictures, from the front of the stage. 

Stage...looks like my set up at work?!
- the mic and projector screen
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 21, 2014, 06:06:55 pm
It was a special Dan Deacon set. Normally he plays actual songs.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 21, 2014, 10:26:34 pm
dan deacon is reading this, and he just,  spit out his evian, hearing that you called his normal music,  normal.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 21, 2014, 10:36:02 pm
dan deacon is reading this, and he just,  spit out his evian, hearing that you called his normal music,  normal.
Dan Deacons reading comprehension, must be, poor, because that's not, what престижний, Мисливець на відьом, said at all.
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 21, 2014, 11:21:11 pm
Yep.  I didn't call his songs normal; I said normally (usually) he performs actual songs (written songs from his albums) instead of this set which was an improvised experimental one that was focusing on sounds moving around the room. 
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 21, 2014, 11:39:37 pm
actual equals normal
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Post by: Hexenjagd on May 22, 2014, 01:41:42 am
No, I used actual to infer "real." Real doesn't have to equal normal.

Plenty of real people aren't normal.

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Post by: K8teebug on May 22, 2014, 08:54:09 am
Yep.  I didn't call his songs normal; I said normally (usually) he performs actual songs (written songs from his albums) instead of this set which was an improvised experimental one that was focusing on sounds moving around the room. 


I would like to set up speakers with random bleeps and bloops and have people pay money to come listen to them.  In my life, it's called a hearing test. (which I always fail since I can't hear out of one ear!)
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Post by: James Ford on June 02, 2014, 08:35:29 am
I think the Old 97's/Lydia Loveless show Saturday probably had the highest percentage of 40+ dorks of any club show I've ever been to in DC. It was really quite endearding to see so many middle aged people digging a show, with numerous aging bladder breaks being taken.

Lydia and her band were a whole hairy mess of fun. The set focused on her most recent album and ep. Wish they had played some older stuff, but maybe she'll be back in the area as a headliner and break some of the old stuff out.

Old 97's played with renewed energy. Rhett is still an amazing frontman, even at the old age of 42. I really love their new album from front to back, They played 8 of the 12 songs on it, I was sad they left a couple of my favorites off the set list. Great selection of 20 older songs, and a Clash cover to boot.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 02, 2014, 10:34:08 am
MAN! Red Fang was freaking AWESOME. They went on early and played for about an hour and 10 minutes or so? Lots of stuff off the new album, but they played their old stuff so huge. So much energy. The crowd wasn't as aggressive as I thought they were going to be. I stayed near the back, but was still jumping around having a blast. No encore, which I was bummed about, but still very awesome. One weird thing about the show, I think the opening band was LOUDER than Red Fang was... Their music was also incoherent as hell. It sounded like something that was clearly meant to be recorded and listened to and not experienced.... Regardless, fun time.
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Post by: hutch on June 02, 2014, 02:34:16 pm
even at the old age of 42.

you're joking right?
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 02, 2014, 04:04:28 pm
even at the old age of 42.

you're joking right?
You mean he doesn't look like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqjw1MWQsB4) anymore


this is the shot, but can't get it to work in here
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/117445502756717842/
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Post by: Unsanity on June 03, 2014, 03:09:27 am
MAN! Red Fang was freaking AWESOME. They went on early and played for about an hour and 10 minutes or so? Lots of stuff off the new album, but they played their old stuff so huge. So much energy. The crowd wasn't as aggressive as I thought they were going to be. I stayed near the back, but was still jumping around having a blast. No encore, which I was bummed about, but still very awesome. One weird thing about the show, I think the opening band was LOUDER than Red Fang was... Their music was also incoherent as hell. It sounded like something that was clearly meant to be recorded and listened to and not experienced.... Regardless, fun time.

Red Fang was indeed awesome. My forth time seeing them but first time as a headliner. Big Business indeed was louder than them. They were too loud and screechy but I am sure that was the venue's fault. RNR Hotel does that. Big Biz always have either equipment or sound problems and that show had both. Luckily the sound mix was pretty on point for Red Fang. American Sharks were a fun band to watch out for, they really reminded me of bands like Valient Thorr and Bad Wizard. Did you get the free 7'' from Red Fang?
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Post by: azaghal1981 on June 03, 2014, 09:31:19 am
That was a pretty excellent Priests set. Maybe their biggest show to date and they brought it. Pinkwash were great, too. The Shondes were also entertaining.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 03, 2014, 10:22:52 am
MAN! Red Fang was freaking AWESOME. They went on early and played for about an hour and 10 minutes or so? Lots of stuff off the new album, but they played their old stuff so huge. So much energy. The crowd wasn't as aggressive as I thought they were going to be. I stayed near the back, but was still jumping around having a blast. No encore, which I was bummed about, but still very awesome. One weird thing about the show, I think the opening band was LOUDER than Red Fang was... Their music was also incoherent as hell. It sounded like something that was clearly meant to be recorded and listened to and not experienced.... Regardless, fun time.

Red Fang was indeed awesome. My forth time seeing them but first time as a headliner. Big Business indeed was louder than them. They were too loud and screechy but I am sure that was the venue's fault. RNR Hotel does that. Big Biz always have either equipment or sound problems and that show had both. Luckily the sound mix was pretty on point for Red Fang. American Sharks were a fun band to watch out for, they really reminded me of bands like Valient Thorr and Bad Wizard. Did you get the free 7'' from Red Fang?
I didn't get the 7" because I don't have a record player. I heard some of the songs on the Scion Soundcloud though. One of them was a free download, I believe.

Oh, here it is! https://soundcloud.com/#scionav/red-fang-meadows
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 03, 2014, 07:44:26 pm
That was a pretty excellent Priests set. Maybe their biggest show to date and they brought it. Pinkwash were great, too. The Shondes were also entertaining.


Priests were really good except for butchering a really catchy song by swapping instruments.  Shame about rhat.

Openers were ok but Shondes came across like they were trying too hard.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on June 03, 2014, 09:36:04 pm
I think I know what you're talking about although it was only the beginning and they were able to get it back together quickly enough.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 05, 2014, 09:25:23 am
How was Frankie Turner?
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Post by: hutch on June 05, 2014, 11:21:30 am
How was Frankie Turner?

Sidehatch has a nice picture to share with us today...... :)

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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 05, 2014, 12:21:47 pm
How was Frankie Turner?

Sidehatch has a nice picture to share with us today...... :)


Show was f'n awesome.  1200 people singing along to every one of his songs. 
It was supremely packed, but everyone was dancing and having a great time
Mix was great and you didn't need earplugs!

set list (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/frank-turner/2014/930-club-washington-dc-4bc03bfa.html) was great
Played two new ones 40andLove and Get Better, which were great
'Tattoos' is really one of my faves that was only on the 'deluxe' edt. of TDH and I'm so glad he played (ironically I'm tattooless)
Just like at the Fillmore, he name dropped the 930 club in Wessex boy 'when I'm here I'm home"
and of course the crowed roared when he sang the line in 'the road'   "..the punks in old DC"

But the moment that everyone was waiting for was the encore, where he talked about josh burdette and how much he meant to him.  Then he said it was appropriate for him to record the 'song for josh' live at the 9:30 (or half past 9 as I've seen it referenced)  It was awesome and sad and the crowd just was transfixed and silent.  So glad there were no 'yeah' or other stupid exclamations during the song.  Looking forward to that recording.  Then he went in to 'I still believe' and '4 simple words'  which are just perfect songs as send up for josh and to end the night

An being the perfect gentleman rock star...came out to see the fans who waited after the show in the rain...where I got a sig on my tix and a nice photo inside the satellite room



(https://31.media.tumblr.com/1475b29fdeee01e51050385431f809bb/tumblr_n6pcavPtWO1sgfkmzo1_500.jpg)
hutch wanted to know if FT sold his soul to bud light...but I just think a roadie handed it to him
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/3bf297fe42a62513784fbd4a3c7cc76a/tumblr_n6pd8aCPGJ1sgfkmzo1_500.gif)
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Post by: challenged on June 05, 2014, 12:32:34 pm
I enjoyed the Frank Turner.  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqCVghQ717I
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Post by: Yada on June 05, 2014, 12:46:28 pm
How was Frankie Turner?

Sidehatch has a nice picture to share with us today...... :)


Show was f'n awesome.  1200 people singing along to every one of his songs. 
It was supremely packed, but everyone was dancing and having a great time
Mix was great and you didn't need earplugs!

set list (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/frank-turner/2014/930-club-washington-dc-4bc03bfa.html) was great
Played two new ones 40andLove and Get Better, which were great
'Tattoos' is really one of my faves that was only on the 'deluxe' edt. of TDH and I'm so glad he played (ironically I'm tattooless)
Just like at the Fillmore, he name dropped the 930 club in Wessex boy 'when I'm here I'm home"
and of course the crowed roared when he sang the line in 'the road'   "..the punks in old DC"

But the moment that everyone was waiting for was the encore, where he talked about josh burdette and how much he meant to him.  Then he said it was appropriate for him to record the 'song for josh' live at the 9:30 (or half past 9 as I've seen it referenced)  It was awesome and sad and the crowd just was transfixed and silent.  So glad there were no 'yeah' or other stupid exclamations during the song.  Looking forward to that recording.  Then he went in to 'I still believe' and '4 simple words'  which are just perfect songs as send up for josh and to end the night

An being the perfect gentleman rock star...came out to see the fans who waited after the show in the rain...where I got a sig on my tix and a nice photo inside the satellite room



(https://31.media.tumblr.com/1475b29fdeee01e51050385431f809bb/tumblr_n6pcavPtWO1sgfkmzo1_500.jpg)
hutch wanted to know if FT sold his soul to bud light...but I just think a roadie handed it to him
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/3bf297fe42a62513784fbd4a3c7cc76a/tumblr_n6pd8aCPGJ1sgfkmzo1_500.gif)

does james approve of frank's thriftiness in having a cheap beer or disapprove of his choice in shitty beer?

cool review... I went to see Ray Lamontange with my wife last night and both him and Jason Isabel were boring as all hell. However!!!! James would be happy to know that due to scalpers being a little too overzealous, I was able to sit dead center, row m, for $20 a ticket.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 05, 2014, 01:02:31 pm
im sorry, but who is, frank turner?  i must, be dumb.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 05, 2014, 01:03:06 pm

cool review... I went to see Ray Lamontange with my wife last night and both him and Jason Isabel were boring as all hell. However!!!! James would be happy to know that due to scalpers being a little too overzealous, I was able to sit dead center, row m, for $20 a ticket.

man, when Jason Isabel played the 930, it was an awesome rocking show.  I can see how a lot of his material would not play well at MPP

You always seem to land crazy good seats at crazy cheap prices...the force is strong in this one...I've a lot to learn


does james approve of frank's thriftiness in having a cheap beer or disapprove of his choice in shitty beer?

Tough call on that one...I think he would lecture him on the benefits of attachment parenting
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 05, 2014, 01:06:09 pm
im sorry, but who is, frank turner?  i must, be dumb.

he can sell out O2 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/live-music-reviews/10636101/Frank-Turner-The-O2-London-review.html)

still really not that big in the states, but has some seriously rabid fans
I never heard of him until last July
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Post by: Yada on June 05, 2014, 01:15:28 pm
im sorry, but who is, frank turner?  i must, be dumb.

where have you been walky? Many loads have been lost due to this man on this board... he's up there with Queens.
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Post by: hutch on June 05, 2014, 01:42:16 pm
Dang that Frank Turner show sounds awesome....
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Post by: Yada on June 05, 2014, 01:46:03 pm

cool review... I went to see Ray Lamontange with my wife last night and both him and Jason Isabel were boring as all hell. However!!!! James would be happy to know that due to scalpers being a little too overzealous, I was able to sit dead center, row m, for $20 a ticket.

man, when Jason Isabel played the 930, it was an awesome rocking show.  I can see how a lot of his material would not play well at MPP

You always seem to land crazy good seats at crazy cheap prices...the force is strong in this one...I've a lot to learn


does james approve of frank's thriftiness in having a cheap beer or disapprove of his choice in shitty beer?

Tough call on that one...I think he would lecture him on the benefits of attachment parenting


I?ve shared my strategy in the past, but here goes again. This mainly works at large events like the Verizon Center or MPP (this also works at The Fillmore since they?re part of Clear Channel who seems to give 1/3rd of their tickets to scalpers)? I?m sure it would work at Lube Job as well, but I don?t venture out there. Also, this may not work for say Lady Gaga, Paul McCartney, Justin Bieber? mainly for acts that can play a venue of that size but most likely not sell it out. If the band truly sells out the venue, this won?t work.

Every single large show will have scalpers take X amount of tickets.  The shows coming up like Beck, Willie Nelson, Queens (I fucked up on that one and bought seats early) are all good examples of shows that won?t sell out but scalpers most likely have a good hold on presale tickets, etc. Wait until 24 hours or less from showtime and start working the ticket sites. Every single seat will most likely be cut in half and some up to 80% off.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on June 05, 2014, 01:56:07 pm
Jeff Tweedy tickets as low as 14.95 on stubhub

https://www.stubhub.com/jeff-tweedy-tickets/jeff-tweedy-baltimore-meyerhoff-symphony-hall-6-9-2014-9022985/

gotta love the scalpers sometimes :)
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 05, 2014, 03:02:57 pm
Jeff Tweedy tickets as low as 14.95 on stubhub

https://www.stubhub.com/jeff-tweedy-tickets/jeff-tweedy-baltimore-meyerhoff-symphony-hall-6-9-2014-9022985/

gotta love the scalpers sometimes :)

wow..$14.95 that's crazy...although those seats suck
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Post by: hutch on June 05, 2014, 05:06:39 pm
sucks cause its baltimore


i'd pay 14.95 all in to see him in dc.. aiin't gonna happen in a million years
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Post by: sweetcell on June 05, 2014, 05:35:15 pm
Jeff Tweedy tickets as low as 14.95 on stubhub

https://www.stubhub.com/jeff-tweedy-tickets/jeff-tweedy-baltimore-meyerhoff-symphony-hall-6-9-2014-9022985/

gotta love the scalpers sometimes :)

wow..$14.95 that's crazy...although those seats suck


fine.  for $28 you can get into Orch Center.  way below face.
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Post by: atomic on June 05, 2014, 05:39:23 pm
Jeff Tweedy tickets as low as 14.95 on stubhub

https://www.stubhub.com/jeff-tweedy-tickets/jeff-tweedy-baltimore-meyerhoff-symphony-hall-6-9-2014-9022985/

gotta love the scalpers sometimes :)

wow..$14.95 that's crazy...although those seats suck


3/4's of the way back in the orchestra isn't bad.  I hate Jeff Tweedy so I would never buy the seats but a good place to see someone you like.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 09, 2014, 10:33:42 am
Sooooo in a rather random turn of events, I ended up playing my first gig at The Fillmore. They needed a DJ to open before The Bloody Beetroots. Bob, the producer/lead singer, used to be JUST a producer and DJ but now has transformed what the Beetroots were into this weird heavy metal/electro hyrbid trio. He plays bass/guitar/piano and has another guy on synth and a drummer. It was high energy as hell, but the strobe lights were absolutely killing me. I was sitting on the balcony to the right of the stage and got a major headache.

As for my own personal experience DJing, the bass was INSANE and the staff was BEYOND friendly. I was super surprised but it seemed like just about everyone there was ready to lend a helping hand. As I stood backstage probably 5 or 6 different people walked by asking if I needed anything or if I was doing fine. Then I went on from 830-10 and had a blast. The crowd was fun and it actually became nerve racking with the amount of people showing up and I had this huge stage to myself. It was an awesome experience and even stranger considering it was my 2nd time there. The green rooms are lovely too. Anyway.... It was an odd Saturday.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 09, 2014, 11:06:56 am
awesome, to you
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Post by: azaghal1981 on June 09, 2014, 11:35:05 am

cool review... I went to see Ray Lamontange with my wife last night and both him and Jason Isabel were boring as all hell. However!!!! James would be happy to know that due to scalpers being a little too overzealous, I was able to sit dead center, row m, for $20 a ticket.

man, when Jason Isabel played the 930, it was an awesome rocking show.  I can see how a lot of his material would not play well at MPP

You always seem to land crazy good seats at crazy cheap prices...the force is strong in this one...I've a lot to learn


does james approve of frank's thriftiness in having a cheap beer or disapprove of his choice in shitty beer?

Tough call on that one...I think he would lecture him on the benefits of attachment parenting


I?ve shared my strategy in the past, but here goes again. This mainly works at large events like the Verizon Center or MPP (this also works at The Fillmore since they?re part of Clear Channel who seems to give 1/3rd of their tickets to scalpers)? I?m sure it would work at Lube Job as well, but I don?t venture out there. Also, this may not work for say Lady Gaga, Paul McCartney, Justin Bieber? mainly for acts that can play a venue of that size but most likely not sell it out. If the band truly sells out the venue, this won?t work.

Every single large show will have scalpers take X amount of tickets.  The shows coming up like Beck, Willie Nelson, Queens (I fucked up on that one and bought seats early) are all good examples of shows that won?t sell out but scalpers most likely have a good hold on presale tickets, etc. Wait until 24 hours or less from showtime and start working the ticket sites. Every single seat will most likely be cut in half and some up to 80% off.


This got me $15 Kraftwerk Club tickets.
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Post by: hutch on June 09, 2014, 11:47:51 am
so far no sign of willie tickets coming down.
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Post by: Relaxer on June 09, 2014, 12:02:45 pm
Quote
start working the ticket sites.

Are there any other sites I should be checking apart from Stubhub or Craigs List? And do these two even count?
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 10, 2014, 02:51:46 pm
anyone catch the Jeff Tweedy show at the Meyehoff?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 11, 2014, 10:59:59 am
I enjoyed the Tweedy show last night. His "tweedy" band is essentially Wilco-light, but I liked at least 3/4ths of the songs and it's always a treat to hear solo acoustic Tweedy.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 11, 2014, 11:52:01 am
I enjoyed it...but it wasn't very satisfying
The new songs really didn't grab me at all....and believe me I wanted them to work

I did like that he played 'please tell my brothers' by Golden Smog and Via Chicago
finishing with an unamplified rendition of 'missunderstood' was pretty sweet too

His son seemed solid as a drummer, but couldn't hold a water faucet to Glenn Kotche



Way back in 99, when I both time and money to burn, I flew to Chicago to see one of his solo acoustic shows he did at the Lounge Ax.
That was really one of the best musical experiences I've ever had in a club

At that time he hadn't even finished recording SummerTeeth. 
But we got treated to about 6+ songs that ended up on ST and all these other UT/GS/Mermaid Ave/Wilco classics.
He even threw in some covers of Big Star (13) and Henry & the H Bombs
as well as old traditionals like 'auld triangle' and 'James alley blues' 

Later that year he did a few more of these and he debuted a bunch that would appear on YFH

 at the time I traded tapes (remember those) and those were cherished my collection.  Just came across this JT@LoungeAX (http://www.sooutoftune.org/concerts/793)
looking forward to listening to that later

Just found a great article about  Jeff and the Ax (http://archives.nodepression.com/2000/03/last-days-at-lounge-ax-lounge-ax-chicago-il/)

To be clear, last night wasn't even close to that experience.

oh...this also made me chuckle

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/1ec6c418946ea4e70e9ee2c13a15d289/tumblr_n6z98oyMCk1sgfkmzo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 11, 2014, 12:07:08 pm
I enjoyed it...but it wasn't very satisfying
The new songs really didn't grab me at all....and believe me I wanted them to work

I did like that he played 'please tell my brothers' by Golden Smog and Via Chicago
finishing with an unamplified rendition of 'missunderstood' was pretty sweet too

His son seemed solid as a drummer, but couldn't hold a water faucet to Glenn Kotche



Way back in 99, when I both time and money to burn, I flew to Chicago to see one of his solo acoustic shows he did at the Lounge Ax.
That was really one of the best musical experiences I've ever had in a club

At that time he hadn't even finished recording SummerTeeth. 
But we got treated to about 6+ songs that ended up on ST and all these other UT/GS/Mermaid Ave/Wilco classics.
He even threw in some covers of Big Star (13) and Henry & the H Bombs
as well as old traditionals like 'auld triangle' and 'James alley blues' 

Later that year he did a few more of these and he debuted a bunch that would appear on YFH

 at the time I traded tapes (remember those) and those were cherished my collection.  Just came across this JT@LoungeAX (http://www.sooutoftune.org/concerts/793)
looking forward to listening to that later

Just found a great article about  Jeff and the Ax (http://archives.nodepression.com/2000/03/last-days-at-lounge-ax-lounge-ax-chicago-il/)

To be clear, last night wasn't even close to that experience.

oh...this also made me chuckle

(https://31.media.tumblr.com/1ec6c418946ea4e70e9ee2c13a15d289/tumblr_n6z98oyMCk1sgfkmzo1_500.jpg)

like I said, seemed very Wilco-light... might as well just have a killer band like Wilco backing you vs. a few amateurs that are trying to make noisey guitar licks like Nels. I liked the last half of songs vs. the first four or five.

Some of the tracks reminded me of the early 2000's b-sides like Cars Can't Escape, More Like the Moon, Handshake Drugs (before it was released), etc.

It was enough of a fix to not see Wilco for a few more years.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 11, 2014, 12:12:44 pm
BTW, no sighting of some skinny white dude with dreads down to his belt buckle
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 11, 2014, 12:15:24 pm
BTW, no sighting of some skinny white dude with dreads down to his belt buckle

I had them tucked in my rasta cap last night.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Vas Deferens on June 11, 2014, 12:16:08 pm
cause it's not him, according to another boardie...

BTW, no sighting of some skinny white dude with dreads down to his belt buckle
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 11, 2014, 12:19:16 pm
cause it's not him, according to another boardie...

BTW, no sighting of some skinny white dude with dreads down to his belt buckle

I wouldn't take az's advice on what other's look like.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Vas Deferens on June 11, 2014, 12:22:01 pm
Nah, it wasn't him who told me
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 11, 2014, 12:22:58 pm
Nah, it wasn't him who told me

I've never met anyone from here... I must have a stalker.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Vas Deferens on June 11, 2014, 12:25:33 pm

don't invite walkonby to your place.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 11, 2014, 12:42:38 pm
btw this so out of tune (http://www.sooutoftune.org/concerts/1196) site is incredible

they've got stuff from the Primitives and Coffee Creek and pretty much every tweedy lounge ax show

high percentage are soundboard

99 wilco 930 show (http://www.sooutoftune.org/concerts/552)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 11, 2014, 12:44:03 pm
Tweedy has sucked songwriting-wise since he got rid of Jay Bennett(RIP)... is it related to Jay or is it simply that his creative well ran dry? Impossible to say.. most songwriters only have about a 10 year period of peak songwriting..
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 11, 2014, 01:09:52 pm
Tweedy has sucked songwriting-wise since he got rid of Jay Bennett(RIP)... is it related to Jay or is it simply that his creative well ran dry? Impossible to say.. most songwriters only have about a 10 year period of peak songwriting..

LOL
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 11, 2014, 01:10:50 pm
Tweedy has sucked songwriting-wise since he got rid of Jay Bennett(RIP)... is it related to Jay or is it simply that his creative well ran dry? Impossible to say.. most songwriters only have about a 10 year period of peak songwriting..

LOL

go listen to your hot new Phish... :)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 11, 2014, 01:31:08 pm
Tweedy has sucked songwriting-wise since he got rid of Jay Bennett(RIP)... is it related to Jay or is it simply that his creative well ran dry? Impossible to say.. most songwriters only have about a 10 year period of peak songwriting..

LOL

go listen to your hot new Phish... :)


They've been done since 98' brah!
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 11, 2014, 01:33:36 pm
Tweedy has sucked songwriting-wise since he got rid of Jay Bennett(RIP)... is it related to Jay or is it simply that his creative well ran dry? Impossible to say.. most songwriters only have about a 10 year period of peak songwriting..

LOL

go listen to your hot new Phish... :)


They've been done since 98' brah!

but they are en "FUEGO"!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on June 11, 2014, 01:34:21 pm
hey yada btw if you see any good deals on willie give me a shoutout..thanks..i ain't seeing jack
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on June 11, 2014, 01:36:39 pm
Tweedy has sucked songwriting-wise since he got rid of Jay Bennett(RIP)... is it related to Jay or is it simply that his creative well ran dry? Impossible to say.. most songwriters only have about a 10 year period of peak songwriting..

LOL

go listen to your hot new Phish... :)


They've been done since 98' brah!

but they are en "FUEGO"!!!!!!!!!!

It's gonna be the jam vehicle of the summer, son.

and will do re: willie

edit: looks like willie is actually sold out in the pav, so my method most likely won't work as real people have these tickets vs. scalpers.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: challenged on June 11, 2014, 01:37:38 pm
btw this so out of tune (http://www.sooutoftune.org/concerts/1196) site is incredible

they've got stuff from the Primitives and Coffee Creek and pretty much every tweedy lounge ax show

high percentage are soundboard

99 wilco 930 show (http://www.sooutoftune.org/concerts/552)

thanks for this link. Great stuff.

I enjoyed the Meyerhoff show, not in love with the new songs...but interested to see how they are on the new record.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Relaxer on June 11, 2014, 02:26:11 pm
I was thinking "wow, I wonder why they have semi-obscure British dreampop band The Primitives in there? Oh well, who cares!"
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 11, 2014, 04:45:20 pm
I was thinking "wow, I wonder why they have semi-obscure British dreampop band The Primitives in there? Oh well, who cares!"
in the event you didn't know....primitives was the first name of Uncle Tupleo...then that British band broke big and they changed their name
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: heather on June 12, 2014, 12:10:11 pm
Here's a link to a review and photos from the Tweedy show:  http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2014/06/12/photos-jeff-tweedy-and-minus-5-lincoln-theatre/ (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2014/06/12/photos-jeff-tweedy-and-minus-5-lincoln-theatre/)

I enjoyed the new songs and the show in general.  I found it really endearing to see Jeff play with his son.  I'm also a big sap :)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 10:13:17 am
saw some boardie-favorites as of late:
cloud nothings - stellar, as expected
metz - after touring 1+ years, i expected these guys to be a little flat compared to the last time i saw them. absolutely not the case, and they put on one of the best rock performances i've ever seen.
courtney barnett - my new rock crush :D
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 15, 2014, 11:05:23 am
saw some boardie-favorites as of late:
cloud nothings - stellar, as expected
metz - after touring 1+ years, i expected these guys to be a little flat compared to the last time i saw them. absolutely not the case, and they put on one of the best rock performances i've ever seen.
courtney barnett - my new rock crush :D


Metz absolutely destroys. Great band.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 15, 2014, 11:14:17 am
metz > cloud nothings
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 15, 2014, 11:52:11 am
Is Metz playing new material?  They're due for another album, methinks.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 01:17:01 pm
metz > cloud nothings

duh

Is Metz playing new material?  They're due for another album, methinks.

yes, but they are short on words. IIRC, they played one or two new songs, but i think one was an older, unreleased song. no hints on another album.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: K8teebug on July 15, 2014, 02:46:03 pm
metz > cloud nothings

Wait, I thought they weren't playing together anywhere near here?!

ugh.

Love both of them.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: K8teebug on July 15, 2014, 02:46:37 pm
And I love love love the Courtney Barnett album.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: stevewizzle on July 15, 2014, 03:58:14 pm
metz > cloud nothings

Wait, I thought they weren't playing together anywhere near here?!

ugh.

Love both of them.

i live oh-so-far-away in seattle now.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: K8teebug on July 17, 2014, 11:35:15 pm
Well that was just wonderful. Thank you. I needed that.

(Plus it's nice when it takes five minutes to get home)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 18, 2014, 08:29:57 am
Well that was just wonderful. Thank you. I needed that.

(Plus it's nice when it takes five minutes to get home)

Great show. QOTSA were fantastic as usual, but Brody Dalle was on fire, and St. Vincent was incredibly cool to see too. I heard presale was only 3,500 but it seemed like there were a lot more folks there. QOTSA's set was very different than the SF show I saw in April. They dropped all the visuals behind them. This probably gives them more flexibility with changing the setlist, but I kind of miss the macabre visuals. But the performance was solid. Did anyone else get to talk to Jon Theodore on the VIP deck before the show? Super sweet guy & so talented. Very gracious & mild mannered.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 18, 2014, 08:38:25 am
they cut one song......what was it?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 18, 2014, 09:18:28 am
they cut one song......what was it?
...Like Clockwork? Fairweather Friends?

I enjoyed the show, we got right up to the stage on the right side and was able to jump in and out of the pit with no real obstacles. Was just kind of bummed they played a bulk of their new album. Nothing off the first, 3 songs off Rated R. Still tons of fun. I went up to 932 for a bit of the show, went back down for the end. Song For The Dead will always be awesome to see live. I walked over to the merch stand after the show and they sold out of posters as I was next in line. I'm so sad. First QOTSA show I've been to where I didn't snag the poster. Sigh.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 18, 2014, 09:23:01 am
they cut one song......what was it?

It may have been "In the Fade". They normally play almost 2 hours. I thought the show seemed a little brief. I think they went on late. I asked Jon if they'd play it and he said they soundchecked with it, which meant there was a good chance they'd play it.

It may have also been 3's & 7's.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 18, 2014, 09:23:59 am
they cut one song......what was it?
...Like Clockwork? Fairweather Friends?

Both of those where performed. Here's the setlist:


You Think I Ain't Worth a Dollar, but I Feel Like a Millionaire
No One Knows
My God Is the Sun
Smooth Sailing
I'm Designer
Monsters in the Parasol
I Sat by the Ocean
?Like Clockwork
If I Had a Tail
Little Sister
Turnin' on the Screw
Kalopsia
Fairweather Friends
Make It Wit Chu
Sick, Sick, Sick
The Lost Art of Keeping a Secret
Go With the Flow

Encore:
The Vampyre of Time and Memory
Feel Good Hit of the Summer
A Song for the Dead
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 18, 2014, 09:40:41 am
they cut one song......what was it?

It may have been "In the Fade". They normally play almost 2 hours. I thought the show seemed a little brief. I think they went on late. I asked Jon if they'd play it and he said they soundchecked with it, which meant there was a good chance they'd play it.

It may have also been 3's & 7's.
They played exactly an hour and a half down in Richmond. I was hoping there would go 2 hours last night. Only time I saw them play "In The Fade" was in Baltimore at Ram's Head.

Almost the same set, only difference in Richmond was Better Living Through Chemistry and Burn The Witch were added.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Vas Deferens on July 18, 2014, 09:42:40 am
yeah, it was a song after Sick, Sick, Sick that was cut so most likely 3's and 7's.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2014, 09:42:51 am
I heard 930 staff walking around with walkie talkies about 907 pissed off they had not gone on yet..the guy was saying "yeah, typical 'rock stars'"

they were obviously supposed to go on at 9 and play til 1050...they may not have gone til 915/920..not sure

I loved the older stuff and the new stuff was just flat flat flat.....all the songs that got people going were old stuff....doesn't bode well for the future..

the drummer was a beast.. i thought i saw three older people front row of seated area with QOTSA bacckstage passes around their neck that looked like his family...

i really enjoyed the beginning of the show and the end.....i was facing the stage on the left side of the pit which was the wrong side as the band seemed to take up more of the stage to the right.....

Homme is a bit too static up there..

an aside: tons of hot chicks in the pit..most i've seen at a show in a while...
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 18, 2014, 09:43:14 am
they cut one song......what was it?

It may have been "In the Fade". They normally play almost 2 hours. I thought the show seemed a little brief. I think they went on late. I asked Jon if they'd play it and he said they soundchecked with it, which meant there was a good chance they'd play it.

It may have also been 3's & 7's.
They played exactly an hour and a half down in Richmond. I was hoping there would go 2 hours last night. Only time I saw them play "In The Fade" was in Baltimore at Ram's Head.

Almost the same set, only difference in Richmond was Better Living Through Chemistry and Burn The Witch were added.

I'm kinda glad they dropped "Burn the Witch". I've seen that song plenty. They have so many good tunes it's ridiculous. I love the last LP, but I never get tired of seeing stuff like "You Can't Quit Me Baby" and "Regular John". The only thing I'd change is drop something like "Fairweather Friends" and add "the Bronze".
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 18, 2014, 10:00:31 am
they cut one song......what was it?

It may have been "In the Fade". They normally play almost 2 hours. I thought the show seemed a little brief. I think they went on late. I asked Jon if they'd play it and he said they soundchecked with it, which meant there was a good chance they'd play it.

It may have also been 3's & 7's.
They played exactly an hour and a half down in Richmond. I was hoping there would go 2 hours last night. Only time I saw them play "In The Fade" was in Baltimore at Ram's Head.

Almost the same set, only difference in Richmond was Better Living Through Chemistry and Burn The Witch were added.

I'm kinda glad they dropped "Burn the Witch". I've seen that song plenty. They have so many good tunes it's ridiculous. I love the last LP, but I never get tired of seeing stuff like "You Can't Quit Me Baby" and "Regular John". The only thing I'd change is drop something like "Fairweather Friends" and add "the Bronze".
I'd drop half the new album and put in "Avon" the long ass "Regular John", "Mexicola", "Do It Again" and something long and weird like "Fun Machine Took A Shit And Died", "Someone's In The Wolf", "Better Living Through Chemistry" or "You Can't Quit Me Baby". I've seen a ton of their newer tour stuff online and it's heavy on the last album. It's fine, but honestly the sets I saw before that album were a lot more diverse. Not complaining. I love them. Just would love to hear some old stuff as well.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 18, 2014, 10:03:20 am

I loved the older stuff and the new stuff was just flat flat flat.....all the songs that got people going were old stuff....doesn't bode well for the future..

Homme is a bit too static up there..

I'm not sure I agree. I would say that "Kalopsia" is a pretty bruising. "...Like Clockwork" is one of the most beautiful songs they've ever done. When you consider what Josh had been through to make that LP, it not only shows up in the music but in the lyrics. Have you actually absorbed the words on that record? The severe depression and rehab Josh went through following his near death experience made it impossible for him to make music that was the same as what they'd done before. He hit rock bottom and nearly died. So he had to come up with a bigger statement about mortality, pain, and the fallout of what it takes to dig yourself out of the hole when you fall into it. I had an injury that sidelined me for months last year, so maybe that's why I relate to it. But that LP by far the most cohesive thing they've done, but Josh knows it's a dark record and he's not going to repeat it. Given that the band is performing in some of the biggest venues of their career I don't think they need to worry about the future. Besides, if they just decided to phone it in and play the first 3 LPs for the next 20 years, we'd all get pretty bored with that. They're too young and vital to become an oldies act that you pay $150 to go see at the Lube with Alice in Chains and Sublime with Rome.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on July 18, 2014, 10:13:52 am
I would've loved to have heard "in the fade." That's my jam...

I thought the show rocked... sat dead center in row M or so, moved around a bit, and was more than happy I wasn't in the pit!

I thought St. Vincent was fucking awesome too, however, I don't think Annie Clark played her guitar on half the songs... or at least you couldn't hear it.

A side note, not really sure what the point of the VIP bar was/is? On a night like last night that was PERFECT weather, might as well just grab a beer and sit on the lawn a bit if you're not catching the show.

Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2014, 11:21:51 am

A side note, not really sure what the point of the VIP bar was/is? On a night like last night that was PERFECT weather, might as well just grab a beer and sit on the lawn a bit if you're not catching the show.



There is no point..its stupid.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 18, 2014, 11:25:34 am

A side note, not really sure what the point of the VIP bar was/is? On a night like last night that was PERFECT weather, might as well just grab a beer and sit on the lawn a bit if you're not catching the show.



There is no point..its stupid.
A VIP bar is in theory a great idea. The problem with Seth's execution is entirely too many people are allowed in. Real VIPs don't want to drink near normies.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: K8teebug on July 18, 2014, 11:44:07 am
The VIP area was great for the bathrooms for us girls though. I didn't go up to the deck.

I love the new album.  It's really fantastic.  Happy to hear a bunch of it last night.

Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on July 18, 2014, 12:28:15 pm

A side note, not really sure what the point of the VIP bar was/is? On a night like last night that was PERFECT weather, might as well just grab a beer and sit on the lawn a bit if you're not catching the show.



There is no point..its stupid.

You didn't get the invite, did you hutch?  ;D

Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2014, 12:46:22 pm

A side note, not really sure what the point of the VIP bar was/is? On a night like last night that was PERFECT weather, might as well just grab a beer and sit on the lawn a bit if you're not catching the show.



There is no point..its stupid.

You didn't get the invite, did you hutch?  ;D



ha ha..I'm a superVIP baby (under 500 FWB number)!!!!!!!!!!!

I did and I didn't care enough to check in at the tent or whatever..... I checked it out a previous show and I thought it was lame... when people tell you the best thing about it is that its got easy access to restrooms with short lines I think that tells you something...

maybe with the 20 millinon $ renovations - not one cent on Seths dime- they will make a better VIP experience or something  but I think Julian is on to something...if they let every Tom Dick and Harry in then it ain't going to amount to much is it?

Honestly I prefer 932.

Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 18, 2014, 12:57:18 pm
but I think Julian is on to something...if they let every Tom Dick and Harry in then it ain't going to amount to much is it?
Yes, thank you Hutch. No real VIP is going to countenance some sweaty messageboard rabble stinking up the section with their proleness.

I thought GGW and myself gave some excellent suggestions in another thread discussing potential upgrades to the VIP experience.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: K8teebug on July 18, 2014, 01:41:43 pm
But, VIP restrooms ARE important!

Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: StoneTheCrow on July 18, 2014, 01:48:43 pm
First QOTSA show I've been to where I didn't snag the poster. Sigh.

I intended to get a poster and decided against it.  Didn't care for it.

Was great to see everybody in the VIP area.  Well, I suppose I saw ya anyway. John Theodore seemed  very approachable which was cool.

My wife said the VIP restrooms were great.  Guys'......not so much.  Standard fare.  Was nice to have one close by, tho.

Thought the VIP area was really nice.  Would hang there again if I get the opportunity.

Bands were great.  Shame QOTSA was late.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 18, 2014, 04:52:35 pm
QOTSA is the worst, they play boring guitars and drums
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2014, 05:29:48 pm
QOTSA is the worst, they play boring guitars and drums

for a second I thought Atomic was back! :)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 20, 2014, 11:28:44 pm
The Philly QOTSA sadly beat the pants off Merriweather. Better performance & setlist:

Millionaire
No One Knows
My God is the sun
Smooth sailing
I'm Designer
Monsters in the parasol
I Sat by the Ocean
...Like Clockwork
If I Had a Tail
Little Sister
In the Fade
Fun Machine took a Shit & Died
Fairweather Friends
Make it witchu
Sick sick sick
Lost Art of Keeping a Secret
Go with the Flow
--------
Vampyre of Time & Memory
Feel Good Hit of the Summer
Song for the Dead



Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on July 21, 2014, 09:11:46 am
The Philly QOTSA sadly beat the pants off Merriweather. Better performance & setlist:

Millionaire
No One Knows
My God is the sun
Smooth sailing
I'm Designer
Monsters in the parasol
I Sat by the Ocean
...Like Clockwork
If I Had a Tail
Little Sister
In the Fade
Fun Machine took a Shit & Died
Fairweather Friends
Make it witchu
Sick sick sick
Lost Art of Keeping a Secret
Go with the Flow
--------
Vampyre of Time & Memory
Feel Good Hit of the Summer
Song for the Dead





It's only two different songs, I can't imagine it being wildly different?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 21, 2014, 09:39:46 am
The Philly QOTSA sadly beat the pants off Merriweather. Better performance & setlist:

Millionaire
No One Knows
My God is the sun
Smooth sailing
I'm Designer
Monsters in the parasol
I Sat by the Ocean
...Like Clockwork
If I Had a Tail
Little Sister
In the Fade
Fun Machine took a Shit & Died
Fairweather Friends
Make it witchu
Sick sick sick
Lost Art of Keeping a Secret
Go with the Flow
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Vampyre of Time & Memory
Feel Good Hit of the Summer
Song for the Dead





It's only two different songs, I can't imagine it being wildly different?

Last night of the tour, overall better performance...sound was fantastic, cool venue too. They just seemed a lot more animated. Josh was having a great time.
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Post by: James Ford on July 21, 2014, 11:54:11 am
You want animated, you should have been at Camera Obscura. Let me tell you, the Scottish truly bring the animation.
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Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 21, 2014, 04:57:20 pm
QOTSA is the worst, they play boring guitars and drums
is this bait
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Post by: bearman🐻 on July 21, 2014, 05:36:39 pm
QOTSA is the worst, they play boring guitars and drums
is this bait

I am pretty sure he was kidding. Kosmo would never say something like that ;)
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Post by: DotTheEyes on July 21, 2014, 05:41:57 pm
I did not go, but based on posts on the Merriweather Facebook page, etc., it seems a lot of people left the Queen + Adam Lambert show very angry, particularly regarding the Gatecrashers event beforehand.  Lots of, "Worst venue ever.  I will never spend my money there again!"/"My wife nearly died because of the poor planning!" type posturing.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 22, 2014, 08:51:46 am
I so want to make fun of the crowd that attended that....but I saw that Seth was one too...so I'll refrain

-edit yes Brian May is a guitar deity
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 22, 2014, 10:11:49 am
QOTSA is the worst, they play boring guitars and drums
is this bait

I am pretty sure he was kidding. Kosmo would never say something like that ;)

Sorry about that... Evilsanta got a hold of my phone when I wasn't looking and felt something was missing from the discussion.  He's been banished to the basement, where he continues to work on his latest creation Mumfordstep.  I'm worried he might try to collaborate with the Lumineers on their dubstep follow up
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 22, 2014, 10:15:55 am
I'm worried he might try to collaborate with the Lumineers on their dubstep follow up
"I once accidentally downloaded a Lumineers' song? I had to throw away my whole computer just to be safe!" - Tom Haverford (Parks & Rec)
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 22, 2014, 10:46:16 am
so my friend, went to the philly queen show, and said it rocked.  had great seats, and loved it.  so i watched some videos of the show; gosh darn it, i love youtube.  i determined, that yes, the gay guy can sing, but good lord, he has no stage presence at all . . . no umpth, no motion in his ocean, no freddie like power prancing around the stage like he is the god of all things rock. 
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Post by: hemisphire on July 23, 2014, 01:30:59 pm
We went to the Queen show, entered from the mall side in a long but fast moving line.  I was very happy to get the email from FWB about the VIP Deck Pass, especially since we brought my nearly 3 year old daughter and it was quiet and secluded back there (even saw Seth).  The Pepe food truck had delicious sandwiches and the show was really good (Adam's stage presence was ok, but his voice was incredible, totally nailed "Somebody To Love").  My daughter was a trooper, lasted through six songs (with ear protection) before moving from dancing on the seats to dancing at top of the stairs. It turns the best way to keep a toddler occupied there is to find a broken pinball machine where she can keep putting a quarter in and getting it out. But she had a great time, just wished they'd had kids sizes in shirts (a little surprised to see Veruca Salt had kids shirts the next night). Her first IMP show, but not her last.
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Post by: gavroche on July 24, 2014, 12:54:10 am
I thought Nick Cave and the band was in pretty great form tonight.  The show itself wasn't too different from Strathmore in terms of structure and set list but it had a different feel.  It started off with a lot of energy and was pretty rocking right up until he killed it with the ballads.  Then, for me, he had trouble getting the energy level back up again.  In general Nick seemed to be in better spirits I felt.  Sound in DAR was definitely muddy up front.  I can't tell if it was getting worse as I got closer to the stage, or if it was the chaos of Mercy Seat, etc... at the end, but for me that took some of the power away from that part of the show. 


I ended up about 3rd person back center and was holding him up for much of Stagger Lee.   

I felt a bit bad for the people who had paid for VIP tickets.  There were people standing in front of them right from the beginning and I noticed a couple who left very early because they were uncomfortable.  It was clear tonight right from the beginning that no one was going to respect the isles and Nick was beckoning people forward much earlier. I think that was a big part of why there was more energy at the beginning.

The encore to me was a bit of a letdown after the energy of Stagger Lee, but I'm not sure what he can do to fix that.

Nicole Atkins was pretty good as the opener.  Actually better than sharon Van Etten was, even though I like Sharon Van Etten's albums a lot.
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Post by: stevewizzle on July 24, 2014, 02:08:55 am
Nicole Atkins was pretty good as the opener.  Actually better than sharon Van Etten was, even though I like Sharon Van Etten's albums a lot.

SVE is best enjoyed on album.  seems like her and her band are too dynamic of an act to be able to pull off a fluid, live show.
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Post by: DotTheEyes on July 24, 2014, 02:53:40 am
It was my first Bad Seeds show, and I had an amazing time.  He played most of my favorites--"The Ship Song," for example, and, of course, "Stagger Lee"--and his campy, foreboding, lusty, theatrical, etc. stage presence is riveting.

I did briefly wonder if people at the very front were annoyed by people with seats throughout the hall rushing to the stage.  Cave certainly did not hide his disdain for the layout of the venue...
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Post by: gavroche on July 24, 2014, 06:28:37 am
Nicole Atkins was pretty good as the opener.  Actually better than sharon Van Etten was, even though I like Sharon Van Etten's albums a lot.

SVE is best enjoyed on album.  seems like her and her band are too dynamic of an act to be able to pull off a fluid, live show.

Interesting.  I thought it might have been that SVE just didn't fill a big space so well and that she might have had an easier time in a club gig.  I was bummed to miss her recent show.
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Post by: betao on July 24, 2014, 08:18:45 am
It was my first Bad Seeds show, and I had an amazing time.  He played most of my favorites--"The Ship Song," for example, and, of course, "Stagger Lee"--and his campy, foreboding, lusty, theatrical, etc. stage presence is riveting.

I did briefly wonder if people at the very front were annoyed by people with seats throughout the hall rushing to the stage.  Cave certainly did not hide his disdain for the layout of the venue...

I wondered about that, too. This was my first time at DAR - is rushing to the stage like that a regular thing there? I would think it's against fire code to have people in the aisles when the lights go down, but I guess DC is different in that aspect. Definitely didn't seem to matter where your seats where, if you're allowed to do that.

It was my first Seeds show and I thought it was great. Nick Cave is such a mesmerizing performer. The band's chemistry was very tight too. Highlights for me included Tupelo, Mermaid, From Her to Eternity, Stagger Lee, and (I think) Higgs Boson Blues.
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Post by: James Ford on July 24, 2014, 08:22:54 am
The idea of a 57 year old balding man with dyed hair acting "lusty" just seems comical to me. And sort of gross.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 24, 2014, 08:32:34 am
  Cave certainly did not hide his disdain for the layout of the venue...
-Nick Cave on the DAR "this place is annoying"

Well I will say that it was a fantastic show from start to finish for me.
K8 was right Jubilee Street was really powerful, in fact a lot of the songs from Push Away were phenomenally better than the album versions.

I don't know if I would characterize Cave as lusty, but the man can just render about any emotion on cue.  Love, distain, anger, sympathy, bravado, spirituality, humor, madness, joy and yes even lust.  He really is so much more than an indie rock star, but a performer who creates characters and stories that you can just walk into and shake their hands.  There are few people in rock that are doing that as expertly as Nick does.

He does love getting out in the crowd and connecting with the fans.  I don't know if is because IMP is involved with the shows at the DAR, but things are different there on nights IMP puts a show on.  I don't think you were ever allowed to bring drinks inside the theater, but now you can ;D.  I think the fans in the isles is the same thing.  Before the show even started the isles in the front were filling up I was really happy with the tickets I got from the early presale.  I didn't have front row and I could see being annoyed if I had gotten some and then all these other people who got cheap seats came down and stood in front of me.  But I think yada said it before...seats have no place at a rock show.  I wonder how hard it would be to remove the first 20 rows of seats and make a GA section?

Warren Ellis was really fun to watch , jumping around like a banshee.  At one point he threw his bow up and nailed the lights overhead and almost impaled the bassist.

What I really liked is how they took songs from the albums and really fleshed them out in the context of the set.  The build ups and crescendos, rocking out in the mayhem of a song like Right Red Hand into the quietness of Mermaids.  At some points Nick would whisper and the audience was silent.

Mid set he put in a lot of the slow ballads  West Country Girl -> Into My Arms  -> People Ain't No Good  -> God Is in the House  -> The Weeping Song  -> Higgs Boson Blues  but then got everyone riled up with a killer Mercy Seat - > Stagger Lee.  Stagger was awesome too as he stretched out and even added a new little call and response as well as an additional verse of Stag putting 4 holes in the Devils m-f'n head.

Push away the sky was kind of a let down after Stag, but jez can't even believe I'm complaining about that.

Encore was top notch too... Just nailed Deanna and made my night.
They said their goodbyes and were walking off the stage and Nick looked at the crowd "you want one more don't ya?"  well of course the crowd responded appropriately and they played a rousing Lyre of Orpheus

I have always put the NC&BS show at the 9:30 on the MB tour as one of my top 5 shows ever...this one was on par with that.  Bucket list performance 
 
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 24, 2014, 08:36:35 am
The idea of a 57 year old balding man with dyed hair acting "lusty" just seems comical to me. And sort of gross.
Don't be so self-loathing, Rhett. You're an OK guy, I guess.
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Post by: Yada on July 24, 2014, 09:13:45 am
LOLDAR
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Post by: Vas Deferens on July 24, 2014, 09:15:04 am
No it's not a regular thing....I think Nick Cave fans are more aggressive I guess


I wondered about that, too. This was my first time at DAR - is rushing to the stage like that a regular thing there? I would think it's against fire code to have people in the aisles when the lights go down, but I guess DC is different in that aspect. Definitely didn't seem to matter where your seats where, if you're allowed to do that.

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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 24, 2014, 10:35:15 am
[ Stagger was awesome too as he stretched out and even added a new little call and response as well as an additional verse of Stag putting 4 holes in the Devils m-f'n head.

well apparently not unique, but cool none the less Stagger Lee Perth, Australia, January 18th, 2000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm1MbhXIhT0)
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Post by: hutch on July 24, 2014, 11:34:18 am
people rushed to the front at the Strathmore and it was clear Cave encouraged it and wanted it.. he didn't want to play to a bunch of people sitting down, etc..

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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 24, 2014, 11:49:17 am
people rushed to the front at the Strathmore and it was clear Cave encouraged it and wanted it.. he didn't want to play to a bunch of people sitting down, etc..



Mental note...next time Cave comes to town...buy the cheap seats and make your way down the isles
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Post by: hutch on July 24, 2014, 12:39:15 pm
now i'm double bummed i didn't go to Queen..from MPP fb:


Went to the Queen show on 7/21. Great show. Terrible venue. 1) The venue sent out a gate crashers invite which I signed up for but they never let us first timers know how or when we could us it. By the time we figured it out, they "reached the limit and blocked us out 10 feet from the gate but still allowed Friends with Benefits member in - are you full or not? 2) People pushed through the line to "ask a question" but was never made to go back and allowed to stand in front of those who had been waiting for hours. 3) The big screens are outdated and provide poor quality viewing. 4) The food was way over priced - talk about gouging - OMG - 32.00 for 2 burgers a fry a coke and a water. Ridiculous. Robbery. 5) Underage drinking 6) Security staff and I use the term loosely were nothing more than what appeared to be 16 yr old slackers with no purpose whatsoever. There was a couple next to us that were drunk and the girl was pole dancing on the guys crotch and doing everything but stripping. She was placing his hands on her breasts as she gyrated and at one time had her hands down his pants. At one point she was attempting to perform oral sex on the guy. The staff member just stood there and watched them and did nothing. when people complained the staff member had to consult with another teenager and they decided that since they weren't physically hurting anyone - it was ok. WHAT ABOUT THE 10 AND 11 YEAR OLD KIDS SITTING RIGHT BEHING AND BESIDE THEM. Plus, I didn't come to the show for soft porn. Come on people. Finally, at the risk of starting a fight, other people said something and the couple left. I have been many places for many concerts for over 40 years --worse place I have ever been.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 24, 2014, 01:11:43 pm
I find it hard to believe there was a large <21 contingency at Queen + Adam Lambert, but I may be mistaken.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 24, 2014, 01:42:17 pm
i do that all the time at merriweather . . . whats the big deal?
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Post by: gavroche on July 24, 2014, 01:55:14 pm
Yup, but at Strathmore they were not selling very expensive VIP tickets.  It also took a good number of songs for it to happen at Strathmore.  Again, I'm not complaining, it worked for me and I don't believe shows should have seats unless it is jazz/classical.  I was just commenting.

people rushed to the front at the Strathmore and it was clear Cave encouraged it and wanted it.. he didn't want to play to a bunch of people sitting down, etc..


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Post by: betao on July 24, 2014, 01:55:39 pm
I find it hard to believe there was a large <21 contingency at Queen + Adam Lambert, but I may be mistaken.

You'd be surprised, thanks to Adam Lambert.
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Post by: hutch on July 24, 2014, 02:01:05 pm
Yup, but at Strathmore they were not selling very expensive VIP tickets.  It also took a good number of songs for it to happen at Strathmore.  Again, I'm not complaining, it worked for me and I don't believe shows should have seats unless it is jazz/classical.  I was just commenting.

people rushed to the front at the Strathmore and it was clear Cave encouraged it and wanted it.. he didn't want to play to a bunch of people sitting down, etc..



you are dead on correct... and though I did not say it .. I was aware of that different reality..

I think Nick Cave should rethink things a little....its not right to take money for VIP tickets and then have this take place..

anyways I could not be at the show last night... I'm sure it was wonderful..his show at the Strathmore is one of the best I have ever seen..

I cannot help but ad that DAR is a shit-pie venue and should be avoided at all costs unless you like to eat shit-pie sandwiches..
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Post by: James Ford on July 24, 2014, 02:01:30 pm
How do you "attempt to give a guy oral sex"?

You either give it to him, or you don't....
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 24, 2014, 02:24:15 pm
How do you "attempt to give a guy oral sex"?

You either give it to him, or you don't....
you seem to be an expert...tell us more?
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 24, 2014, 02:25:31 pm
yes, please do
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Post by: James Ford on July 24, 2014, 02:29:45 pm
My point was it was an odd choice of words. I mean was she performing oral sex or was she not performing oral sex on the guy?

She was placing his hands on her breasts as she gyrated and at one time had her hands down his pants. At one point she was attempting to perform oral sex on the guy
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Post by: hutch on July 24, 2014, 02:37:46 pm
My point was it was an odd choice of words. I mean was she performing oral sex or was she not performing oral sex on the guy?

She was placing his hands on her breasts as she gyrated and at one time had her hands down his pants. At one point she was attempting to perform oral sex on the guy

weird thing is you could ask the guy himself on Facebook....if you were on Facebook...which I seem to remember you are not which is fine as I hate the thing as much as I use it.

I think he is just making shit up honestly... even if that really was going on why would you look unless you enjoyed it?

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Post by: James Ford on July 24, 2014, 02:40:35 pm
Some people may look because they enjoy free live pron?

Just a guess.

No, I'm not on Facebook. Does anyone who actually uses Facebook enjoy it? I've heard your complaint from others.

My point was it was an odd choice of words. I mean was she performing oral sex or was she not performing oral sex on the guy?

She was placing his hands on her breasts as she gyrated and at one time had her hands down his pants. At one point she was attempting to perform oral sex on the guy

weird thing is you could ask the guy himself on Facebook....if you were on Facebook...which I seem to remember you are not which is fine as I hate the thing as much as I use it.

I think he is just making shit up honestly... even if that really was going on why would you look unless you enjoyed it?


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Post by: hutch on July 24, 2014, 02:43:58 pm
Some people may look because they enjoy free live pron?

Just a guess.

No, I'm not on Facebook. Does anyone who actually uses Facebook enjoy it? I've heard your complaint from others.

My point was it was an odd choice of words. I mean was she performing oral sex or was she not performing oral sex on the guy?

She was placing his hands on her breasts as she gyrated and at one time had her hands down his pants. At one point she was attempting to perform oral sex on the guy

weird thing is you could ask the guy himself on Facebook....if you were on Facebook...which I seem to remember you are not which is fine as I hate the thing as much as I use it.

I think he is just making shit up honestly... even if that really was going on why would you look unless you enjoyed it?



You're kidding?

there are a ton of people who love sharing pictures of their baby  on facebook they can't imagine anything better...

i think its been demonstrated in studies that people simply "liking" sommething you post gives you some sort of chemical rush...

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Post by: James Ford on July 24, 2014, 02:49:26 pm
I guess my sample size is really only one. My wife tends to have a love/hate relationship with Facebook, I figured maybe others do as well.

Won't get into it any more than that because it's not the right thread and it's kind of a boring topic (imo) anyway.


Some people may look because they enjoy free live pron?

Just a guess.

No, I'm not on Facebook. Does anyone who actually uses Facebook enjoy it? I've heard your complaint from others.

My point was it was an odd choice of words. I mean was she performing oral sex or was she not performing oral sex on the guy?

She was placing his hands on her breasts as she gyrated and at one time had her hands down his pants. At one point she was attempting to perform oral sex on the guy

weird thing is you could ask the guy himself on Facebook....if you were on Facebook...which I seem to remember you are not which is fine as I hate the thing as much as I use it.

I think he is just making shit up honestly... even if that really was going on why would you look unless you enjoyed it?



You're kidding?

there are a ton of people who love sharing pictures of their baby  on facebook they can't imagine anything better...

i think its been demonstrated in studies that people simply "liking" sommething you post gives you some sort of chemical rush...


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Post by: hutch on July 24, 2014, 02:54:49 pm
I guess my sample size is really only one. My wife tends to have a love/hate relationship with Facebook, I figured maybe others do as well.

Won't get into it any more than that because it's not the right thread and it's kind of a boring topic (imo) anyway.


Some people may look because they enjoy free live pron?

Just a guess.

No, I'm not on Facebook. Does anyone who actually uses Facebook enjoy it? I've heard your complaint from others.

My point was it was an odd choice of words. I mean was she performing oral sex or was she not performing oral sex on the guy?

She was placing his hands on her breasts as she gyrated and at one time had her hands down his pants. At one point she was attempting to perform oral sex on the guy

weird thing is you could ask the guy himself on Facebook....if you were on Facebook...which I seem to remember you are not which is fine as I hate the thing as much as I use it.

I think he is just making shit up honestly... even if that really was going on why would you look unless you enjoyed it?



You're kidding?

there are a ton of people who love sharing pictures of their baby  on facebook they can't imagine anything better...

i think its been demonstrated in studies that people simply "liking" sommething you post gives you some sort of chemical rush...



you said it brother...its BORING.

next.
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Post by: gavroche on July 24, 2014, 02:56:55 pm

I think Nick Cave should rethink things a little....its not right to take money for VIP tickets and then have this take place..


I couldn't agree more.  I guess I'm glad that those folks are subsidizing my show without much of a loss for me, but I actually felt kind of bad for the VIP folks, and the venue definitely was bothering him.

I also agree with you about DAR... I was hesitant to buy tickets because of the venue.  
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Post by: stevewizzle on July 24, 2014, 04:29:16 pm
Nicole Atkins was pretty good as the opener.  Actually better than sharon Van Etten was, even though I like Sharon Van Etten's albums a lot.

SVE is best enjoyed on album.  seems like her and her band are too dynamic of an act to be able to pull off a fluid, live show.

Interesting.  I thought it might have been that SVE just didn't fill a big space so well and that she might have had an easier time in a club gig.  I was bummed to miss her recent show.

when i saw her a few weeks ago (neptune theatre - more or less a club), the music was good but the band was constantly shuffling around, SVE especially.  going from keyboard, to guitar, to acoustic guitar, solo, etc..
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Post by: stevewizzle on July 24, 2014, 04:34:58 pm
now i'm double bummed i didn't go to Queen..from MPP fb:


Went to the Queen show on 7/21. Great show. Terrible venue. 1) The venue sent out a gate crashers invite which I signed up for but they never let us first timers know how or when we could us it. By the time we figured it out, they "reached the limit and blocked us out 10 feet from the gate but still allowed Friends with Benefits member in - are you full or not? 2) People pushed through the line to "ask a question" but was never made to go back and allowed to stand in front of those who had been waiting for hours. 3) The big screens are outdated and provide poor quality viewing. 4) The food was way over priced - talk about gouging - OMG - 32.00 for 2 burgers a fry a coke and a water. Ridiculous. Robbery. 5) Underage drinking 6) Security staff and I use the term loosely were nothing more than what appeared to be 16 yr old slackers with no purpose whatsoever. There was a couple next to us that were drunk and the girl was pole dancing on the guys crotch and doing everything but stripping. She was placing his hands on her breasts as she gyrated and at one time had her hands down his pants. At one point she was attempting to perform oral sex on the guy. The staff member just stood there and watched them and did nothing. when people complained the staff member had to consult with another teenager and they decided that since they weren't physically hurting anyone - it was ok. WHAT ABOUT THE 10 AND 11 YEAR OLD KIDS SITTING RIGHT BEHING AND BESIDE THEM. Plus, I didn't come to the show for soft porn. Come on people. Finally, at the risk of starting a fight, other people said something and the couple left. I have been many places for many concerts for over 40 years --worse place I have ever been.

absolutely epic.

I WENT TO A CONCERT AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN AT CONCERTS ALL THE TIME HAPPENED IN FRONT OF MY VERY OWN EYES. ALSO, WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 24, 2014, 04:49:49 pm
I keep getting hung up on the part about "pole dancing on the guy's crotch"...

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I mean, pole dancing? I'm guessing the guy's dick is literally the pole. So this guy is lying on the ground, hanging dong, and this lady is sliding all around it, gripping it for support? Is this the gymnast episode of Seinfeld? And then, she proceeded to engage in, at least the preliminary steps for, oral sex? And security did nothing? #ThatHappened


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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 24, 2014, 07:05:28 pm
american, ninja, warrior . . . all up on that weiner.
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Post by: Yada on July 25, 2014, 08:37:16 am
I haven't said this about a show in a while, but Beck was fucking AWESOME.

I kind of lost interest in those mid 2000's albums, but his showmanship and band is damn near perfect. Would see again and will most likely dig back into some of those albums I basically ignored.
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Post by: hutch on July 25, 2014, 09:48:39 am
I haven't said this about a show in a while, but Beck was fucking AWESOME.

I kind of lost interest in those mid 2000's albums, but his showmanship and band is damn near perfect. Would see again and will most likely dig back into some of those albums I basically ignored.

+1

he has a heck of a band he's touring with..jason falkner..smokey hormel..etc....

I had not seen him since the 930 club in the late 90s...enjoyed this show so much more...
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Post by: challenged on July 25, 2014, 10:02:46 am
I haven't said this about a show in a while, but Beck was fucking AWESOME.

I kind of lost interest in those mid 2000's albums, but his showmanship and band is damn near perfect. Would see again and will most likely dig back into some of those albums I basically ignored.

Was indeed a great show. But, alas, no "pole" dancing or other sexx law violations....
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 25, 2014, 10:29:33 am
I haven't said this about a show in a while, but Beck was fucking AWESOME.

I kind of lost interest in those mid 2000's albums, but his showmanship and band is damn near perfect. Would see again and will most likely dig back into some of those albums I basically ignored.

+1

he has a heck of a band he's touring with..jason falkner..smokey hormel..etc....

I had not seen him since the 930 club in the late 90s...enjoyed this show so much more...
If I remember that show with him in the Yacht uniform...it was horrible, so not much to go up from.
I did catch the midnight V tour at the Pat Center and that was fun... 
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Post by: Yada on July 25, 2014, 10:44:27 am
I haven't said this about a show in a while, but Beck was fucking AWESOME.

I kind of lost interest in those mid 2000's albums, but his showmanship and band is damn near perfect. Would see again and will most likely dig back into some of those albums I basically ignored.

+1

he has a heck of a band he's touring with..jason falkner..smokey hormel..etc....

I had not seen him since the 930 club in the late 90s...enjoyed this show so much more...
If I remember that show with him in the Yacht uniform...it was horrible, so not much to go up from.
I did catch the midnight V tour at the Pat Center and that was fun... 

Assuming you saw a Beck show in the mid to late 90's, that would've been a whole different scenario to the artist and performer he is now. A lot can change in 20 years.

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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 25, 2014, 10:56:36 am
yada...is this you in your pre-dread period?
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Post by: hutch on July 25, 2014, 11:21:07 am
I haven't said this about a show in a while, but Beck was fucking AWESOME.

I kind of lost interest in those mid 2000's albums, but his showmanship and band is damn near perfect. Would see again and will most likely dig back into some of those albums I basically ignored.

+1

he has a heck of a band he's touring with..jason falkner..smokey hormel..etc....

I had not seen him since the 930 club in the late 90s...enjoyed this show so much more...
If I remember that show with him in the Yacht uniform...it was horrible, so not much to go up from.
I did catch the midnight V tour at the Pat Center and that was fun... 

well I think I +1'd that it was an awesome show!....but hey if you who weren't there last night want to pass judgement on the show be my guest... :) just switch Beck for Replacements and you got yourself a nice Atomicfronty-post...maybe you're auditioning for the newly open position!!!!!! :)

as far as the mid to late 90s show at the 930.. I thought it sucked..as you know...so it took me a while to see him again.... I think his new album is his best so far....which was another reason I was interested in this show.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 25, 2014, 11:26:16 am
but hey if you who weren't there last night want to pass judgement on the show be my guest... :) just switch Beck for Replacements and you got yourself a nice Atomicfronty-post...maybe you're auditioning for the newly open position!!!!!! :)
Whoa, what? How did I miss this? Atomic reviewed a Replacements concert he did not, in fact, attend? Rhett, atomic stole your move!
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Post by: Vas Deferens on July 25, 2014, 11:34:44 am
how was Sean Lennon's band?
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Post by: Yada on July 25, 2014, 11:36:59 am
I haven't said this about a show in a while, but Beck was fucking AWESOME.

I kind of lost interest in those mid 2000's albums, but his showmanship and band is damn near perfect. Would see again and will most likely dig back into some of those albums I basically ignored.

+1

he has a heck of a band he's touring with..jason falkner..smokey hormel..etc....

I had not seen him since the 930 club in the late 90s...enjoyed this show so much more...
If I remember that show with him in the Yacht uniform...it was horrible, so not much to go up from.
I did catch the midnight V tour at the Pat Center and that was fun... 

well I think I +1'd that it was an awesome show!....but hey if you who weren't there last night want to pass judgement on the show be my guest... :) just switch Beck for Replacements and you got yourself a nice Atomicfronty-post...maybe you're auditioning for the newly open position!!!!!! :)

as far as the mid to late 90s show at the 930.. I thought it sucked..as you know...so it took me a while to see him again.... I think his new album is his best so far....which was another reason I was interested in this show.


but he only played about 3 or 4 of those songs... which I think is a good thing. Love the Sea Change/Morning Phase tunes, but they should be played in a seated show at the Lincoln, not MPP!
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Post by: DotTheEyes on July 25, 2014, 01:56:43 pm
I found Sean Lennon's band rather boring.  "Oh, I predict the next song will be a mid-tempo, meandering psychedelic pastiche."  His girlfriend/band-mate is cute, though.

I highly enjoyed Beck, though the people around me became rather rude during the run of Sea Change/Morning Glory songs, which was my most anticipated part of the show.  Lots of overly loud chat and bustling for beer.
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Post by: Relaxer on July 25, 2014, 02:58:25 pm
The Fresh & Onlys were great last night. Solid loud rawk. The Shilohs had 3 good songs and about 7 boring ones.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on July 27, 2014, 10:51:09 pm
I haven't said this about a show in a while, but Beck was fucking AWESOME.

I kind of lost interest in those mid 2000's albums, but his showmanship and band is damn near perfect. Would see again and will most likely dig back into some of those albums I basically ignored.

+1

he has a heck of a band he's touring with..jason falkner..smokey hormel..etc....

I had not seen him since the 930 club in the late 90s...enjoyed this show so much more...
If I remember that show with him in the Yacht uniform...it was horrible, so not much to go up from.
I did catch the midnight V tour at the Pat Center and that was fun... 

well I think I +1'd that it was an awesome show!....but hey if you who weren't there last night want to pass judgement on the show be my guest... :) just switch Beck for Replacements and you got yourself a nice Atomicfronty-post...maybe you're auditioning for the newly open position!!!!!! :)

as far as the mid to late 90s show at the 930.. I thought it sucked..as you know...so it took me a while to see him again.... I think his new album is his best so far....which was another reason I was interested in this show.

I think that one left a mark.  For the record I didn't say a thing about his current tour with your 'nice Atomicfronty-post'
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Post by: hutch on July 28, 2014, 12:06:22 am
well depends on how you read "not much to go up from..." I suppose...

sorry if I misread it.. you seemed to be saying that even if it was better that wasn't saying much given how bad the 930 show was...
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Post by: jeffml on July 28, 2014, 08:00:47 am
I enjoyed Sean Lennons band - short but solid set.  The new album is pretty damn good   That was their 2nd MPP show in a year as they opened for Flaming Lips/tame impala last year
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Post by: K8teebug on July 29, 2014, 03:28:17 pm
Yup, but at Strathmore they were not selling very expensive VIP tickets.  It also took a good number of songs for it to happen at Strathmore.  Again, I'm not complaining, it worked for me and I don't believe shows should have seats unless it is jazz/classical.  I was just commenting.

people rushed to the front at the Strathmore and it was clear Cave encouraged it and wanted it.. he didn't want to play to a bunch of people sitting down, etc..



you are dead on correct... and though I did not say it .. I was aware of that different reality..

I think Nick Cave should rethink things a little....its not right to take money for VIP tickets and then have this take place..

anyways I could not be at the show last night... I'm sure it was wonderful..his show at the Strathmore is one of the best I have ever seen..

I cannot help but ad that DAR is a shit-pie venue and should be avoided at all costs unless you like to eat shit-pie sandwiches..

Really missed being at this show.  Glad it seems like you all enjoyed it.  I was in the 2nd row at Strathmore and was glad people came in to fill some space as it was kind of uncomfortable being there almost alone!
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Post by: Justin Tonation on August 06, 2014, 11:49:48 pm
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/14868901073_5b9b7c5ce5_o.jpg)

Brahs?
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Post by: hutch on August 07, 2014, 12:53:56 am
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5585/14868901073_5b9b7c5ce5_o.jpg)

Brahs?

oh no!!!!!!! not the ken doll!
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 07, 2014, 08:30:58 am
TIL: steal stuff from the 9:30 Club and return it for big, big prizes!
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Post by: hutch on August 07, 2014, 09:14:37 am
TIL: steal stuff from the 9:30 Club and return it for big, big prizes!

I got some concert promo posters i took off the walls over the years....

willing to talk turkey.. price negotiable...serious inquiries only.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 07, 2014, 09:39:52 am
im, going to steal, seth.  ooh, gurl.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 07, 2014, 09:57:49 am
TIL: steal stuff from the 9:30 Club and return it for big, big prizes!

I got some concert promo posters i took off the walls over the years....

willing to talk turkey.. price negotiable...serious inquiries only.
It would be hysterical if they ban you because of this. FTR, I don't want that to happen, but no one could deny the hilarity of it.
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Post by: hutch on August 07, 2014, 11:46:08 am
TIL: steal stuff from the 9:30 Club and return it for big, big prizes!

I got some concert promo posters i took off the walls over the years....

willing to talk turkey.. price negotiable...serious inquiries only.
It would be hysterical if they ban you because of this. FTR, I don't want that to happen, but no one could deny the hilarity of it.

I don't get banned. I get people banned.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 07, 2014, 12:03:46 pm
TIL: steal stuff from the 9:30 Club and return it for big, big prizes!

I got some concert promo posters i took off the walls over the years....

willing to talk turkey.. price negotiable...serious inquiries only.
It would be hysterical if they ban you because of this. FTR, I don't want that to happen, but no one could deny the hilarity of it.

I don't get banned. I get people banned.
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/d63ea884b1c6ca6c1df1d8e272c5089a/tumblr_mqhr7rnxE21qzpxx1o1_500.gif)
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Post by: Bags on August 08, 2014, 03:56:13 pm
The idea of a 57 year old balding man with dyed hair acting "lusty" just seems comical to me. And sort of gross.
When that man is Billy Zoom it is downright CREEPY.
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Post by: Bags on August 08, 2014, 04:02:37 pm
I haven't said this about a show in a while, but Beck was fucking AWESOME.

I kind of lost interest in those mid 2000's albums, but his showmanship and band is damn near perfect. Would see again and will most likely dig back into some of those albums I basically ignored.
I heard the same thing from a friend who's not a fan particularly, but thought it was a show he should go to.  And he raved and raved, telling all his music buddies you need to see Beck at least once. 
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Post by: dyecraig on August 09, 2014, 08:40:03 am
TIL: steal stuff from the 9:30 Club and return it for big, big prizes!

I got some concert promo posters i took off the walls over the years....

willing to talk turkey.. price negotiable...serious inquiries only.
It would be hysterical if they ban you because of this. FTR, I don't want that to happen, but no one could deny the hilarity of it.
 

11x17 frames @ Walmart $4.00 each - looks very nice in mancave , guilty as well... 
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Post by: dyecraig on August 09, 2014, 09:04:47 am
Anyone make the NIN/Soundgarden show @ the lube?
Wifey scored row A 100 center from work colleague so I was designated limo driver/shlub on the lawn.  Free upgrade to 200 section upon entry. Completely missed opener (would have made a better effort to experience Death Grips).  Soundgarden (not really my thing) sounded amazing and heavy - Chris Cornell apparently has not aged one day.  NIN was the most impressive and intense light show I have ever witnessed.  Was kind of waiting to see Lisa Fischer on BV's and Pino Palladino on bass (the Austin City Limits show, wow), but this was something else. Staff/security was surprisingly low key, but they were probably just tired from the Mayhem Fest the day before, crowd as well (and well-behaved). Little nightmare getting out, but home by 11:30 and I found a great shortcut from Warrenton, but that's for me only.

Oh, and I hope that everyone's cel videos were incredible and will be viewed again and again and cherished forever. 
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Post by: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam fan on August 11, 2014, 04:38:46 pm
I got a lawn ticket for $5.00, but got there too late for an upgrade.  Never seen NIN and was blown away.  Like you, I was impressed by Soundgarden, but never really liked them to begin with...and I missed the opener.
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Post by: K8teebug on August 13, 2014, 09:08:00 am
Anyone make the NIN/Soundgarden show @ the lube?
Wifey scored row A 100 center from work colleague so I was designated limo driver/shlub on the lawn.  Free upgrade to 200 section upon entry. Completely missed opener (would have made a better effort to experience Death Grips).  Soundgarden (not really my thing) sounded amazing and heavy - Chris Cornell apparently has not aged one day.  NIN was the most impressive and intense light show I have ever witnessed.  Was kind of waiting to see Lisa Fischer on BV's and Pino Palladino on bass (the Austin City Limits show, wow), but this was something else. Staff/security was surprisingly low key, but they were probably just tired from the Mayhem Fest the day before, crowd as well (and well-behaved). Little nightmare getting out, but home by 11:30 and I found a great shortcut from Warrenton, but that's for me only.

Oh, and I hope that everyone's cel videos were incredible and will be viewed again and again and cherished forever. 

I am so over stupid people on their stupid phones at shows "recording" everything instead of just experiencing the music....ugh.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 13, 2014, 09:26:56 am
Yeah, screw people whose priorities and way of enjoying their chosen forms of recreation deviate slightly from my own. Cell phone bastards.
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Post by: sweetcell on August 14, 2014, 12:34:25 pm
Yeah, screw people whose priorities and way of enjoying their chosen forms of recreation deviate slightly from my own. Cell phone bastards.

the problem is that 1) those cell phones block others' views, and b) people filming on cell phones aren't there in the moment... band could be playing mind-blowing song but cell-phoners won't notice, they're too busy making sure the band is in frame.  no worries, they'll re-watch the concert later, with shitty sound quality, and enjoy the moment then (or not - seriously, how many people go back and watch all their shitty cell phone vids?).  sucks to be at a rockin' show, surrounded by cell-phone zombies.  but reason #1 is my biggest complaint.
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Post by: Stillwater on August 14, 2014, 12:39:48 pm
Agree with this whole page.

I have never been into NIN and am a moderate SG fan I guess.  We don't get many hsows down here so I went to the show in Virginia Beach.  NIN blew me away.  I still don't think I'll go put them on at the house, but the live show was outstanding.

Re: cell phones: yeah, it's stupid.
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Post by: Got Haggis? on August 14, 2014, 12:46:52 pm
at the How to Destroy Angels show at the filmore, i had some asshole in front of me record the entire thing show on his phone basically. 

i am definitely guilty of recording some stuff at shows, but usually less than 20 secs
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 14, 2014, 01:10:52 pm
the problem is that 1) those cell phones block others' views,
They don't. Is your field of vision 16 square inches? Should people stop putting their hands up in the air because it might obstruct 2% of your visual spectrum? This is absurd to the point of being an absolute non-starter.

and b) people filming on cell phones aren't there in the moment... band could be playing mind-blowing song but cell-phoners won't notice, they're too busy making sure the band is in frame.  no worries, they'll re-watch the concert later, with shitty sound quality, and enjoy the moment then (or not - seriously, how many people go back and watch all their shitty cell phone vids?). 
This concerns you how? It's exactly what I said before:

 screw people whose ... way of enjoying their chosen forms of recreation deviate slightly from my own

Whenever this community brings this up, its just the most elitest, talking down at people nonsense ever. You basically wrote a paragraph explaining why other people are worse fans than you because they're not watching the concert properly like you are. Think about that for a second. This is the concert intellectual equivalent of old white men telling African-American kids how to dress properly. It would be insulting if it wasn't so cloying.
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Post by: sweetcell on August 14, 2014, 01:34:21 pm
Is your field of vision 16 square inches? Should people stop putting their hands up in the air because it might obstruct 2% of your visual spectrum? This is absurd to the point of being an absolute non-starter.

i can't discuss something with you if you're going to use moronic nonsense as your argument.  does it block my ENTIRE field of view?  of course not.  does it put several glowing squares, a foot to a few feet away from my face, between me and the band?  yes, and that shit's distracting.  to claim that several screens hovering in your line of sight isn't an unwanted annoyance is plain stupid.

Whenever this community brings this up, its just the most elitest, talking down at people nonsense ever.

like you should be telling people not to be elitist ;-)

it's not elitist to say that others are ruining the concert experience for me.  if i shove you out of the way and dance in your face while singing the song, badly, do you have a right to complain?  or are you being elitist because being a douche is how i choose to enjoy my shows, and if you're not into my anti-social behavior then it's your fault?  eff that.  get your fucking glowing screens out of my face.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 14, 2014, 02:02:12 pm
it's not elitist to say that others are ruining the concert experience for me.  if i shove you out of the way and dance in your face while singing the song, badly, do you have a right to complain? 
This is a total false equivalency, and you know it. Recording a song on your cell phone is not the same as physically assaulting someone.

Look, I don't record concerts via cell phone, I think its stupid. I also am not so horrendously bothered by that it in any way changes my enjoyment of a concert. I cannot imagine any sane, reasonable person actually having their experience significantly downgraded over someone holding a camera up and recording a song. Turn your head 5 degrees or move 6 inches and get on with your life.

I think this is entirely infantile accumulation of "tr00 fan" points. This is more about people making themselves feel like a TRUE concert fan by looking down on others on their cell phone -- or not dancing, or talking to their friend, or not singing along, or singing along too loudly, or whatever they're doing that is one iota out of line of what you are doing. As with most discussions on this board, this is not a real gripe, its whipping out our concert penises and seeing whose is longest.
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Post by: challenged on August 14, 2014, 02:03:21 pm
I like to take pics and record one or two songs per show.

I post the good(?) videos to the YouTube, and I usually do watch them again.

I try to mostly hold the phone up at my eye level, and I believe that it cannot really disturb anyone's show-viewing pleasure.

Thinking of getting a better camera: maybe GoPro, because the low light at most indoor shows makes the iPhone videos fuzzier than I want.

 8)
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 14, 2014, 02:04:16 pm
it's not elitist to say that others are ruining the concert experience for me. 
When what is "ruining the concert experience" is one's inability to countenance a 4"x3" obstruction of your vision several feet away from your face for a few minutes, it certainly is.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 14, 2014, 02:06:30 pm
I like to take pics and record one or two songs per show.
You literally owe sweetcell thousands of dollars. You've ruined live music.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: challenged on August 14, 2014, 02:26:08 pm
I like to take pics and record one or two songs per show.
You literally owe sweetcell thousands of dollars. You've ruined live music.

No problems.
I guess, I'm in trouble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo_317i9vuY
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: DotTheEyes on August 14, 2014, 02:26:18 pm
The Agnes Obel show at the club last night was wonderful.  She has a beautiful voice.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: wml7 on August 14, 2014, 02:41:37 pm
Sweetcell must hate my guts
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axlAGnvOwEw
 ;D
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Post by: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam fan on August 14, 2014, 02:57:23 pm
it's not elitist to say that others are ruining the concert experience for me. 
When what is "ruining the concert experience" is one's inability to countenance a 4"x3" obstruction of your vision several feet away from your face for a few minutes, it certainly is.

Doesn't Jiffy Lube have banners all over the place encouraging people to identify miscreants, and turn them in to security?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 14, 2014, 03:02:38 pm
Doesn't Jiffy Lube have banners all over the place encouraging people to identify miscreants, and turn them in to security?
IDK, I've not been there since the name change.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: sweetcell on August 14, 2014, 03:48:41 pm
please invite me over the next time you're watching a TV show that you've been looking forward to - say, a season finale.  i will lie down between you and the tv set, and hold up my cell phone so that it only blocks 4"x3" of your view.  i dare you to not ask me to get that annoying, glowing screen out of your line of sight.

is watching a concert the same as watching a tv show at home?  no.  but the point remains: having that visual occlusion is ANNOYING.

at this point the record-a-show-on-a-crappy-cell-phone boat has sailed.  my writing on a message board ain't gonna stop anyone from doing it.  just sharing an opinion... you know, BUILDING COMMUNITY.
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Post by: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam fan on August 14, 2014, 03:52:59 pm
That reminds me - I gotta call the cable company.  Seems like no matter what channel I put it on, there's a cat-shaped cutout on the screen.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 14, 2014, 03:57:03 pm
please invite me over the next time you're watching a TV show that you've been looking forward to - say, a season finale.  i will lie down between you and the tv set, and hold up my cell phone so that it only blocks 4"x3" of your view.  i dare you to not ask me to get that annoying, glowing screen out of your line of sight.
Is my television magically much larger, to include my entire field of vision? In that case, come on over, your company would be lovely, and I will grill up some portobello mushroom caps on the grill beforehand. Shall we say 7pm?

just sharing an opinion... you know, BUILDING COMMUNITY.
Well some of us are trying to ORGANIZE THE COMMUNITY, you know?!
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Post by: challenged on August 14, 2014, 04:14:30 pm
Post show banter-wise:

The Nickel Creek/Josh Ritter show at WolfTrap was pretty great last night and/or I am in love with Sara Watkins. Probably both.


I tried to video-record one song (a Fleetwood Mac cover) and was swiftly stopped by WolfTrap Staph.  :(

Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on August 14, 2014, 04:18:41 pm
Post show banter-wise:

The Nickel Creek/Josh Ritter show at WolfTrap was pretty great last night and/or I am in love with Sara Watkins. Probably both.


I tried to video-record one song (a Fleetwood Mac cover) and was swiftly stopped by WolfTrap Staph sweetcell.  :(


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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 14, 2014, 04:23:23 pm
I tried to video-record one song (a Fleetwood Mac cover) and was swiftly stopped by WolfTrap Staph.  :(
You may as well have given Wolftrap full blown AIDS.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2014, 05:23:25 pm
Man United Banned Tablets at Old Trafford.

That's all I got.
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Post by: dyecraig on August 14, 2014, 07:11:21 pm
Sorry I brought it up, let's move on, shall we?
Caught Steely Dan in Pittsburgh Monday at the Benedum Center - pretty precise and flawless (although not lacking soul), but what else would you expect?
http://www.post-gazette.com/ae/music-reviews/2014/08/11/Steely-Dan-recreates-its-studio-magic-at-the-Benedum/stories/201408110163 (http://www.post-gazette.com/ae/music-reviews/2014/08/11/Steely-Dan-recreates-its-studio-magic-at-the-Benedum/stories/201408110163)
Scott Mervis has been doing some fine Pittsburgh-area music journalism for years.
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Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 24, 2014, 11:02:25 am
big star thing was a blast. im generally skeptical of tribute shows but i cant imagine liking big star and not enjoying last night. note perfect renditions of those songs, played and sung by people who clearly have a deep connection to the music.

they did #1 record, then third, then an encore of you and your sister, september gurls (!!!!) and i am the cosmos

from where i was standing the crowd and the sound was among the best ive ever experienced. great night. thansk for booking that one, seth.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 24, 2014, 12:02:26 pm
It was a blast... Highlights for me were Thirteen and Jesus Christ with Mike Mills taking lead. 

One of those on stage was Lesa Aldridge who the inspiration and girlfriend of Alex Clinton during the recording of Third.

per NPR

http://instagram.com/p/sED32MgPiI/
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Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 24, 2014, 12:32:12 pm
thirteen was my highlight too. i was completely unfamiliar with the three who sang that one but they totally nailed a very tough song

i was also impressed with how seamlessly the whole band played. especially when they mentioned pat sansone flew in that day with no rehearsals. i know they had sheet music and all, but still. again, shows how much all involved actually cared about the music

my only complaint, and this was to be expected, was a lack of stuff from radio city (my favorite of the three). especially after seeing how well they handled the more rocking songs like feel or kizza me or when my babys beside me. would have loved to seen them tackle o my soul or you get what you deserve, but sepember gurls is an all time favorite song so seeing that was special.

so if theyre saving radio city for a future opening set ill absolutely be there too
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 24, 2014, 01:05:35 pm
Hoping someone was keeping track of who sang what for the show...  It's a bummer The Posies were available having done the Cat's Cradle show the night before, they had their own gig in Seattle Sat.  I too would have preferred more from the first two records.  The #1 Record set seemed rushed and not as well rehearsed as the Third set. 

Some of the other performers last night  and I think Thirteen may have been these three + Chris Stamey

Skylar Gudasz - https://skylargudasz.bandcamp.com/releases
Brett Harris - http://www.brettharrismusic.com/
Django Hopkins - http://www.theoldceremony.com/

and John Davies currently of Title Tracks http://titletracksdc.blogspot.com/
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Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 24, 2014, 04:04:14 pm
thirteen was just brett and django on guitar with skylar on lead vocals. hearing that song from a female voice was stunning. thats alway been one of my favorite big star tracks and that performance definitely had me a bit misty eyed. skylar was really impressive throughout, bouncing from vocals to flute to guitar. from what i gather those three have been involved in all these big stars third shows, and it was definitely reflected in their harmonies.

beyond that i only remember that pat did feel and mike did jesus christ. there werent really any vocals that i felt missed the mark, honestly. all of them really felt like theyd studied alex/chris' phrasing

the highest praise i can give that show is that i didnt want to listen to anything on my long metro ride home. big star is such an important band to me and getting to hear so many of those songs played live was a treat ill never forget.

i was also happy to see those two chris bell songs in the encore. his album is a bit spotty but when it hits its mark (title track definitely) its as good as big star ever was

thansk again seth. that was a special evening of music
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Post by: Vas Deferens on August 27, 2014, 01:18:50 pm
LA show will have Dean Wareham, Ira Kaplan, Jason Falkner, Tommy Keene....

http://www.glidemagazine.com/122933/big-stars-3rd-1-record-star-cast-played-live-la/
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Post by: K8teebug on August 27, 2014, 02:47:25 pm
Did anyone go to the GBV show?  Or is that this week?
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Post by: Relaxer on August 27, 2014, 04:14:15 pm
I'm not seeing any GBV shows in the area in the previous week or the following week. They played the BC a few months ago though, and it was good.
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Post by: hutch on August 27, 2014, 04:32:45 pm
Did anyone go to the GBV show?  Or is that this week?

I went.. I posted two pics on the pictures/setlists thread

I enjoyed the show a lot but the 10% abv Beer Thousand kinda kicked my butt..

it was a long drive! almost to rehoboth!
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Post by: Yada on August 27, 2014, 04:43:24 pm
Did anyone go to the GBV show?  Or is that this week?

I went.. I posted two pics on the pictures/setlists thread

I enjoyed the show a lot but the 10% abv Beer Thousand kinda kicked my butt..

it was a long drive! almost to rehoboth!

^drunk driver^
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on August 27, 2014, 04:47:27 pm
Did anyone go to the GBV show?  Or is that this week?

I went.. I posted two pics on the pictures/setlists thread

I enjoyed the show a lot but the 10% abv Beer Thousand kinda kicked my butt..

it was a long drive! almost to rehoboth!

^drunk driver^

they did play a salty salute... i wish they would stop playing it...it gets old..they need to vary their set list THAT   i will say.. the dc show at the black cat they played a ton of newer material but i honestly would be ok if they didn't play gold star for robot boy/i am a scientist/tractor rape chain and a few others again....they are great songs....but still.. i guess they do play like 50 song set lists
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Post by: emmanuel on August 27, 2014, 04:56:09 pm
The Black Cat show was the first time they played where I live in 15 years. I would have liked more 1995-1997 material in DC, but probably my view of the show is biased from the late set and the very late return in Baltimore. I was somewhat bored at the end of the 50 song set.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: hutch on August 27, 2014, 05:15:33 pm
The Black Cat show was the first time they played where I live in 15 years. I would have liked more 1995-1997 material in DC, but probably my view of the show is biased from the late set and the very late return in Baltimore. I was somewhat bored at the end of the 50 song set.

yeah they pretty much playeed mostly from bee thousand which they were hyping as the 20th anniversary of..

so some oldies they usually play were missing: my impression now, weed king, unleashed the large hearted boy etc etc... they played  more of these last week... and less of the two new albums they were largely playing from at the black cat.. really at the black cat it was almost 1 song from bee thousand 1 song from motivational jumpsuit and 1 song from cool planet...that was most of the show which was weird but unique
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on September 09, 2014, 10:22:47 am
Ryan Adams was better than expected. The 930 Club was the most packed I've ever seen it and I think I'm officially old. I really couldn't handle it.

Sidehatch, if you were wearing a Dean Ween Group t shirt, I saw you.
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Post by: challenged on September 09, 2014, 10:54:37 am
I was standing at the soundboard, dead center. I thought the sound was awful on a lot of the songs. Muddy, too much bass - bleeding into and over the mix. Maybe that was what he was going for? Saw him a few weeks ago at the Susquehanna Bank Pavillion in Camden NJ, and enjoyed his show a lot more.

And the club was jam packed. #plaidshirtnight



Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on September 09, 2014, 11:30:59 am
I don't know if I'll ever attend a sold out show again there. It was really not enjoyable at all.
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Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2014, 11:33:51 am
I have said that a number of times myself, old man that I am.

But how do you know in advance if the show will sell out or not? Do you just avoid buying advance tickets and make a game day decision?

I don't know if I'll ever attend a sold out show again there. It was really not enjoyable at all.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on September 09, 2014, 11:36:10 am
I have said that a number of times myself, old man that I am.

But how do you know in advance if the show will sell out or not? Do you just avoid buying advance tickets and make a game day decision?

I don't know if I'll ever attend a sold out show again there. It was really not enjoyable at all.

Either wait until day of or you buy and if it's sold out you'll have no problem selling the tickets. I was getting offers of $125 a ticket, I probably should've taken it!
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Post by: emmanuel on September 09, 2014, 11:48:12 am
For Spoon it was impossible to sell a ticket even though it was sold out... I've learned. I wish scalping was illegal as I am used to.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Yada on September 09, 2014, 12:46:16 pm
For Spoon it was impossible to sell a ticket even though it was sold out... I've learned. I wish scalping was illegal as I am used to.

Probably because they played three nights in a row.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on September 09, 2014, 01:13:02 pm
I don't know if I'll ever attend a sold out show again there. It was really not enjoyable at all.

Saw the 2nd night of Arcade Fire in Chicago at the United Center, with Devo opening. There was so much room to move around on the main floor it was GREAT. The 400 level section was completely blocked off...I'm guessing that there were less than 10,000 people there. I've got to say that I'm getting to a point where a sold out show is uncomfortable and really detracts from my enjoyment of the show. I HATE being the cranky dude, but as you get older, personal space really does become an issue. Also, with a bad knee, I am really starting to enjoy having someplace to sit or lean on. That's how I made it through the Foo Fighters show...if I didn't have a spot to lean on, I wouldn't have lasted the whole night.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2014, 01:24:53 pm
You old guys need to get new hobbies like needlepoint or some shit like that.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on September 09, 2014, 01:27:43 pm
You old guys need to get new hobbies like needlepoint or some shit like that.

What are you, a vampire? Do you possess eternal youth? Your posts always seem discriminatory towards people of a certain age.
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Post by: Relaxer on September 09, 2014, 01:57:57 pm
The irony being that he's almost certainly older than everyone here except ratbasturd
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Post by: hutch on September 09, 2014, 01:59:47 pm
You old guys need to get new hobbies like needlepoint or some shit like that.

What are you, a vampire? Do you possess eternal youth? Your posts always seem discriminatory towards people of a certain age.

his posts are always putting everyone down hence he does not discriminate
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on September 09, 2014, 02:20:57 pm
Ryan Adams was better than expected. The 930 Club was the most packed I've ever seen it and I think I'm officially old. I really couldn't handle it.

Sidehatch, if you were wearing a Dean Ween Group t shirt, I saw you.
yesir that was I
I was on the lookout for the natty dreds too, but no such luck
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: James Ford on September 09, 2014, 02:26:43 pm
Geez, someone can't take a joke.  ;D

Scroll up a few posts, I put myself in the same oldguy category.

Kosmo is way older than me. So were Jaguar, Mankie, Atomic, and I'm sure many others!

You old guys need to get new hobbies like needlepoint or some shit like that.

What are you, a vampire? Do you possess eternal youth? Your posts always seem discriminatory towards people of a certain age.
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Post by: Yada on September 09, 2014, 02:37:09 pm
Ryan Adams was better than expected. The 930 Club was the most packed I've ever seen it and I think I'm officially old. I really couldn't handle it.

Sidehatch, if you were wearing a Dean Ween Group t shirt, I saw you.
yesir that was I
I was on the lookout for the natty dreds too, but no such luck

damn... next time. I only saw that one pic of you on here a while back and don't even know your name. Oh well!
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Post by: Yada on September 09, 2014, 02:37:27 pm
Geez, someone can't take a joke.  ;D

Scroll up a few posts, I put myself in the same oldguy category.

Kosmo is way older than me. So were Jaguar, Mankie, Atomic, and I'm sure many others!

You old guys need to get new hobbies like needlepoint or some shit like that.

What are you, a vampire? Do you possess eternal youth? Your posts always seem discriminatory towards people of a certain age.

RIP atomic.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 09, 2014, 04:11:15 pm
when she, was just a girl, she ex,pect,ed the world
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Post by: Justin Tonation on September 09, 2014, 08:24:59 pm
Older crowds are literally bigger. Capital Cities is sold out and there'll probably be plenty of room.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: bearman🐻 on September 10, 2014, 04:34:36 pm
Geez, someone can't take a joke.  ;D

Scroll up a few posts, I put myself in the same oldguy category.

Kosmo is way older than me. So were Jaguar, Mankie, Atomic, and I'm sure many others!

You old guys need to get new hobbies like needlepoint or some shit like that.

What are you, a vampire? Do you possess eternal youth? Your posts always seem discriminatory towards people of a certain age.

RIP atomic.

Cool. I can't wait to start making old jokes about you since you like them so much.
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Post by: Yada on September 10, 2014, 04:53:00 pm
Geez, someone can't take a joke.  ;D

Scroll up a few posts, I put myself in the same oldguy category.

Kosmo is way older than me. So were Jaguar, Mankie, Atomic, and I'm sure many others!

You old guys need to get new hobbies like needlepoint or some shit like that.

What are you, a vampire? Do you possess eternal youth? Your posts always seem discriminatory towards people of a certain age.

RIP atomic.

Cool. I can't wait to start making old jokes about you since you like them so much.

Old jokes? I don't get it. And before you get your panties all in bunch, atomic doesn't exist.
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Post by: James Ford on September 10, 2014, 05:01:44 pm
Only gay guys get their panties in a bunch over old guy jokes, since a gay guy's life is basically over at 35.

Straight and pseudo-straight guys think getting old is funny. Until it's time to die.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on September 11, 2014, 09:56:33 am
Only gay guys get their panties in a bunch over old guy jokes, since a gay guy's life is basically over at 35.

Straight and pseudo-straight guys think getting old is funny. Until it's time to die.

If you're trying to fill the void left by Joan Rivers, you're nowhere nearly as funny or talented. Her success wasn't in just offending everyone else, she made just as much fun of herself. You're just boring.
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Post by: hutch on September 11, 2014, 10:22:30 am
Only gay guys get their panties in a bunch over old guy jokes, since a gay guy's life is basically over at 35.

Straight and pseudo-straight guys think getting old is funny. Until it's time to die.

If you're trying to fill the void left by Joan Rivers, you're nowhere nearly as funny or talented. Her success wasn't in just offending everyone else, she made just as much fun of herself. You're just boring.

BOOM!

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Post by: Yada on September 12, 2014, 11:01:47 am
Ryan Adams rockin' a 930 tee on Letterman.

http://www.relix.com/blogs/detail/video_david_letterman_loves_ryan_adams_requests_another_song
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Post by: sweetcell on September 12, 2014, 03:42:03 pm
a staff shirt, no less!  did he wash glasses or sweep up after one of his shows to earn that shirt?
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Post by: heather on September 14, 2014, 11:45:00 pm
Glad I went to Jack White; good show from the pit.  However, Spoon's Thursday show at the Lincoln was mind blowing.
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Post by: Citizens for Boysenberry Jam fan on September 15, 2014, 09:53:57 am
Glad I went to Jack White; good show from the pit.  However, Spoon's Thursday show at the Lincoln was mind blowing.

I thought it was great until he had to end with that one big hit of his.  I'm guessing he loves the paycheck, but hates having to play that song. Again.
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Post by: Vas Deferens on September 15, 2014, 11:28:17 am
It was good. Lazaretto songs still suck. 2012 show was way better with the all girl band.
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Post by: Yada on September 15, 2014, 01:44:02 pm
We caught Devil Makes Three and Iron and Wine on Saturday at that Route 29 festival. Never heard of Devil Makes Three, they were a pretty decent bluegrass band. Iron and Wine were kind of boring, but enjoyable enough in the sunshine.

Merriweather Lawn is pretty f'n awesome when it's at 1/4 capacity.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 15, 2014, 03:58:28 pm
did, you have any, hot,dogs and soda,pop?
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Post by: Yada on September 15, 2014, 04:10:14 pm
did, you have any, hot,dogs and soda,pop?

No... a few Natty Bohs though. Hi James.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 15, 2014, 10:08:18 pm
What, are you, talking about, Willis?
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Relaxer on September 16, 2014, 01:34:55 pm
Any reports from the Ty Segall show last night?
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Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2014, 01:40:01 pm
Hi Atomic.

did, you have any, hot,dogs and soda,pop?

No... a few Natty Bohs though. Hi James.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on September 16, 2014, 01:58:09 pm
I do remember that Atomic did post something right before he left
'I found that the 930 message board has a flaw that I can create the same username as someone else and post and there is no easy way to tell that was not the original poster'

so is there a little bit of that going on here?????
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Relaxer on September 16, 2014, 02:03:01 pm
No, that is not, happening at, all
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on September 16, 2014, 02:04:05 pm
+1
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Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2014, 02:14:15 pm
I think he figured out how to do that about 5+ years after the rest of us did. We actually had some fun doing that way back when but then we remembered we were adults, and adults have other ways to have fun.

I was just commenting on beer lover Yada consuming Atomic approved beers.


I do remember that Atomic did post something right before he left
'I found that the 930 message board has a flaw that I can create the same username as someone else and post and there is no easy way to tell that was not the original poster'

so is there a little bit of that going on here?????
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 16, 2014, 04:04:16 pm
Any reports from the Ty Segall show last night?

Enjoyed it. Can't remember the last time I saw that much stage diving at the 930.  Crowd was way more animated than the one at the Black Cat last year.

Took a little while to warm up to the opening band, Wand.

Hope Mikal Cronin hits the road again soon.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 16, 2014, 10:04:39 pm
No, that is not, happening at, all

look at relaxer, coming out of left field, with a good one.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 18, 2014, 08:32:18 am
The Foo Fighters basically play the same concert every time you go see them, but man, its a fun concert.
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Post by: Yada on September 19, 2014, 10:30:47 am
The Bahamas show was awesome. Afie is a killer guitar play and awesome songwriter!

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Post by: brennser on September 19, 2014, 02:12:05 pm
Any reports from the Ty Segall show last night?

Enjoyed it. Can't remember the last time I saw that much stage diving at the 930.  Crowd was way more animated than the one at the Black Cat last year.

Took a little while to warm up to the opening band, Wand.

Hope Mikal Cronin hits the road again soon.

yeah CRAZY amount of stage diving and crowd surfing - never seen anything like it in DC let alone the 9.30 club - I felt very very old  :P
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on September 19, 2014, 03:14:18 pm
Any reports from the Ty Segall show last night?

Enjoyed it. Can't remember the last time I saw that much stage diving at the 930.  Crowd was way more animated than the one at the Black Cat last year.

Took a little while to warm up to the opening band, Wand.

Hope Mikal Cronin hits the road again soon.

yeah CRAZY amount of stage diving and crowd surfing - never seen anything like it in DC let alone the 9.30 club - I felt very very old  :P
what's odd is they usually don't let that stuff go on at the club
they have those barriers so you can't even get closet to the stage
I see them grabbing crowdsurfers anytime they try
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Post by: Yada on September 19, 2014, 03:45:06 pm
Any reports from the Ty Segall show last night?

Enjoyed it. Can't remember the last time I saw that much stage diving at the 930.  Crowd was way more animated than the one at the Black Cat last year.

Took a little while to warm up to the opening band, Wand.

Hope Mikal Cronin hits the road again soon.

yeah CRAZY amount of stage diving and crowd surfing - never seen anything like it in DC let alone the 9.30 club - I felt very very old  :P
what's odd is they usually don't let that stuff go on at the club
they have those barriers so you can't even get closet to the stage
I see them grabbing crowdsurfers anytime they try

Did that enforcement end with the passing of that guy?
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on September 19, 2014, 04:19:59 pm
I almost said that...but decided not to, but you read my mind
I remember he was always pulling people down
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Post by: brennser on September 22, 2014, 09:15:55 am
I almost said that...but decided not to, but you read my mind
I remember he was always pulling people down
I speculated to my friend that perhaps Segall had an agreement w the club to allow crowdsurfing
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Post by: wml7 on September 22, 2014, 09:19:30 am
I almost said that...but decided not to, but you read my mind
I remember he was always pulling people down
I speculated to my friend that perhaps Segall had an agreement w the club to allow crowdsurfing

I think this is true, as he has been doing this at all his shows so far
 ;D
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Post by: challenged on September 22, 2014, 10:20:04 am
Replacements, Hold Steady and Deer Tick show was great. Any other 930boarders attend?

The bands were great and everything was just easy about the night:

Quick subway from Manhattan, great weather, friendly staph, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/user/videoawesome/videos

Hopefully Seth will be able to bring this revival show to the DC area next year.



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Post by: wml7 on September 22, 2014, 11:09:46 am
Replacements, Hold Steady and Deer Tick show was great. Any other 930boarders attend?

The bands were great and everything was just easy about the night:

Quick subway from Manhattan, great weather, friendly staph, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/user/videoawesome/videos

Hopefully Seth will be able to bring this revival show to the DC area next year.





good vids
 ;D
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Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2014, 10:15:45 am
I actually went to a show last night!

Lydia Loveless at DC9.

I looked for Hutch among the sea of men, but didn't see him.
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Post by: hutch on September 25, 2014, 10:35:53 am
I actually went to a show last night!

Lydia Loveless at DC9.

I looked for Hutch among the sea of men, but didn't see him.

I didn't go...I am going to less shows...mainly cause of the kids....

How was the show?
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Post by: James Ford on September 25, 2014, 10:48:43 am
Very nice show. Obviously longer than when she opened for Old 97's at 9:30. She's fun to watch, as is her husband (the standup bass guy with the long locks in her band).

Less shows is a natural progression that comes with marriage, kids, and age, methinks. Ratbastard's dad being the obvious exception.

I actually went to a show last night!

Lydia Loveless at DC9.

I looked for Hutch among the sea of men, but didn't see him.

I didn't go...I am going to less shows...mainly cause of the kids....

How was the show?
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on October 23, 2014, 09:15:52 am
Slowdive was great....missed low and meeting any of the boardies though

I was hoping to pick up some of those new 930 earplugs...but they were sold out...and am I feeling it this morning.

Sounded really good all over the room.  It was a little hard maneuvering
It was very sold out
I didn't see any slamdancing, but there were a few guys up front grooving pretty hard.  But most had their big hipster glasses on and stared at their sneeks

After seeing Mogwai earlier this year...I can see the 1 to 1 coloration vividly

Picked up a kewl pedal shirt ...goes 1 louder
(http://www.jamesbates.com/images/slow-t_768.jpg)

Slowdive
T-shirt Design (http://www.jamesbates.com/slowdive1.html)T-shirt Design

In 2014 Slowdive reformed for a round the world tour. They asked me to pitch for T-Shirt ideas and this is the one they chose, it was also used on mugs. Such a privilege & honour to get to do this one.

If you are not familiar with Slowdive, you should know that they are famous for their use of guitar pedals, creating majestic atmospheric & very loud soundscapes, influencing everyone from Sigur Ros to Mogwai along the way. Therefore I came up with the Slowdive pedal, it does everything you can imagine, has 6 inputs and dual stereo optical outputs. Obviously it goes 1 louder just in case anyone gets too serious about it...
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Post by: emmanuel on October 23, 2014, 10:09:48 am
Show of the year for me, perfect bill. I hoped Low would play a bit longer, but I'm glad they played three new songs, and that I could see them at 9:30 Club with a good sound. Slowdive was so great, I like the sound so much, with the only slight issue being a few weaker songs and uneven vocals.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 23, 2014, 10:14:33 am
There were a few rough patches of feedback as far as sound goes but other than that, it was perfect for me. Vocals were clearer on some songs more so than others but (I could be wrong here) I think that might have been done on purpose.
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Post by: emmanuel on October 23, 2014, 10:34:45 am
Yes, this is how their soundguy mixes the vocals. Neil's vocals were even louder last time I saw them.
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Post by: Yada on October 23, 2014, 02:14:17 pm
The Wilco shows from the Ryman have looked pretty darn good, nice to see them switching things up a bit.
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Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 23, 2014, 03:15:54 pm
Slowdive was great....missed low and meeting any of the boardies though

Picked up a kewl pedal shirt ...goes 1 louder

Maybe next time!  I did meet Betao and had a good time chilling with him (and azaghal).

I really wanted that shirt, but only had $15 bucks left of spending money for the night...

(also Low were fantastic! You missed out!)
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Post by: betao on October 23, 2014, 09:20:04 pm
Slowdive were so good Really enjoyed that a lot more than I thought I would. Opening with "Slowdive" was perfect. The vocals may have been too low at a couple of points, but I think you can get away with it when it comes to shoegaze. And I imagine that this kind of show can be tricky to get the sound correct on, so major props to the sound techs last night.

Nice to meet (technically for a 2nd time!) Rogue and finally meet Azaghal, hope we can all get together for another show sooner than later.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 24, 2014, 09:05:25 am
To agree with everyone else, Slowdive and Low were a fantastic double bill and a definite show of the year candidate. A thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyable evening.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 24, 2014, 06:30:59 pm
Scroll down to the second to last paragraph (Blowtel gig). (http://www.wonderingsound.com/feature/joanna-gruesome-us-tour-diary/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)

I heard about this incident minutes after it happened but felt like it wasn't my place to talk/post about it. But now it's public knowledge. As far as I know, bouncer in question still has his job and wasn't even reprimanded.
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Post by: Relaxer on October 24, 2014, 08:12:03 pm
Case looks airtight all right
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Post by: blipvurt on October 25, 2014, 01:03:29 am
The Danny Elfman Music For The Films of Tim Burton concert at the Kennedy Center tonight was really special, especially the first half of the program.

Saturday night is the final performance. If you enjoy film scores, this is a really unique opportunity to see this impressive career-spanning Elfman/Burton collection performed live.
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Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 25, 2014, 04:15:04 am
Roomrunner. Dope Body. Bmore royalty.

Wherever you were wasnt it.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 25, 2014, 02:48:08 pm
John Waters?
Bmore royalty.
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Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 25, 2014, 04:17:33 pm
No, just a Who's Who of the Baltimore music scene was there.

Minus of course members of future Islands and celebration since they are on tour in Europe
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 25, 2014, 04:56:22 pm
That was just the first name that came to mind when I read that phrase.
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Post by: K8teebug on October 27, 2014, 08:54:55 am
Foo Fighters report? Loved the Sonic Highways episode. Still just can't like the music though! All the new songs sound like Queens rip offs. But, I love what they're doing! So torn!
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 27, 2014, 09:17:09 am
I heard that that Sonic Highways focused way too much on that virtually unknown band here that Dave Grohl recorded drum tracks for or something and that they were portrayed as the next big DC thing.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 27, 2014, 09:21:36 am
I think the Sonic Highways is really well done, really liked the Chicago episode, the DC episode got a bit tedious over the fact that someone decided to press up a bunch a singles on selling them on their own
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Post by: Got Haggis? on October 27, 2014, 10:41:27 am
I thought the DC episode as well done.  Great show.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 27, 2014, 01:16:30 pm
The Damned were a blast last night. Was floored how well Dave and the Captain looked and sounded. I put off seeing these guys over and over again. Dumb move on my part.

Had seen TSOL headline at the Ottobar a couple years ago and they haven't lost a step either.
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Post by: Got Haggis? on October 27, 2014, 01:55:28 pm
oh and saw the dead milkmen saturday night, great show.  guess i'll have to pick up the new album
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 27, 2014, 06:13:14 pm
The thing about the DC episode of Sonic Highways, is I understand Dischord / Positive Force appears to be big part of Dave's teenage years... but, it sure seems like there are only three things of note from DC are, Bad Brains, Go Go Music and Dischord.  Basically, there was a bit too much of the usual suspect being interviewed in the hour...
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 27, 2014, 06:22:08 pm
That's basically every DC music documentary.
And they probably interviewed the same 3-4 people.
Have members of Chalk Circle, No Trend, 9353 or Velvet Monkeys ever been interviewed for anything like that?

The thing about the DC episode of Sonic Highways, is I understand Dischord / Positive Force appears to be big part of Dave's teenage years... but, it sure seems like there are only three things of note from DC are, Bad Brains, Go Go Music and Dischord.  Basically, there was a bit too much of the usual suspect being interviewed in the hour...
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Post by: ggw on October 27, 2014, 06:26:49 pm
Did they mention Bens Chili Bowl also?
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Post by: hutch on October 27, 2014, 06:52:34 pm
That's basically every DC music documentary.
And they probably interviewed the same 3-4 people.
Have members of Chalk Circle, No Trend, 9353 or Velvet Monkeys ever been interviewed for anything like that?

The thing about the DC episode of Sonic Highways, is I understand Dischord / Positive Force appears to be big part of Dave's teenage years... but, it sure seems like there are only three things of note from DC are, Bad Brains, Go Go Music and Dischord.  Basically, there was a bit too much of the usual suspect being interviewed in the hour...


you know..Jon Spencer came from DC.....there was no place for him so he moved to NYC....

Heck I used to love seeing Blueballs Deluxe...

so sick of the same few people always yappin......

but you can't hold it against Dave that he talks about the things that he's into.....although its worth nothing that Scream was sort of a NoVA reaction...they had a different element/vibe.. and Dave was in them for a little while...

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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 27, 2014, 06:54:34 pm
Yeah, JS is another.
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Post by: K8teebug on October 28, 2014, 07:43:25 am
That's basically every DC music documentary.
And they probably interviewed the same 3-4 people.
Have members of Chalk Circle, No Trend, 9353 or Velvet Monkeys ever been interviewed for anything like that?

The thing about the DC episode of Sonic Highways, is I understand Dischord / Positive Force appears to be big part of Dave's teenage years... but, it sure seems like there are only three things of note from DC are, Bad Brains, Go Go Music and Dischord.  Basically, there was a bit too much of the usual suspect being interviewed in the hour...

But it's for HBO. Of course we know all these bands, but maybe it's reaching someone out there who's never heard of Bad Brains and Fugazi. I'm okay with that.
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Post by: hutch on October 28, 2014, 08:06:03 am
Was Outer Body Llama mentioned at all?

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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 28, 2014, 08:54:40 am
That's basically every DC music documentary.
And they probably interviewed the same 3-4 people.
Have members of Chalk Circle, No Trend, 9353 or Velvet Monkeys ever been interviewed for anything like that?

The thing about the DC episode of Sonic Highways, is I understand Dischord / Positive Force appears to be big part of Dave's teenage years... but, it sure seems like there are only three things of note from DC are, Bad Brains, Go Go Music and Dischord.  Basically, there was a bit too much of the usual suspect being interviewed in the hour...

But it's for HBO. Of course we know all these bands, but maybe it's reaching someone out there who's never heard of Bad Brains and Fugazi. I'm okay with that.
I was speaking more generally.  If you were a musician living/playing in DC between 1980 and 1990, you seem to be blotted out of DC music history if you were not part of the Dischordian clique.
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Post by: Yada on October 28, 2014, 08:59:05 am
That's basically every DC music documentary.
And they probably interviewed the same 3-4 people.
Have members of Chalk Circle, No Trend, 9353 or Velvet Monkeys ever been interviewed for anything like that?

The thing about the DC episode of Sonic Highways, is I understand Dischord / Positive Force appears to be big part of Dave's teenage years... but, it sure seems like there are only three things of note from DC are, Bad Brains, Go Go Music and Dischord.  Basically, there was a bit too much of the usual suspect being interviewed in the hour...

My guess is for an hour long show they want to focus on relevant material and because in the grand scheme of things, no one gives a shit about Chalk Circle, No Trend, 9353 or Velvet Monkeys.
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Post by: ggw on October 28, 2014, 09:13:06 am
No mention of Root Boy Slim?
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Post by: K8teebug on October 28, 2014, 09:52:07 am
That's basically every DC music documentary.
And they probably interviewed the same 3-4 people.
Have members of Chalk Circle, No Trend, 9353 or Velvet Monkeys ever been interviewed for anything like that?

The thing about the DC episode of Sonic Highways, is I understand Dischord / Positive Force appears to be big part of Dave's teenage years... but, it sure seems like there are only three things of note from DC are, Bad Brains, Go Go Music and Dischord.  Basically, there was a bit too much of the usual suspect being interviewed in the hour...

But it's for HBO. Of course we know all these bands, but maybe it's reaching someone out there who's never heard of Bad Brains and Fugazi. I'm okay with that.
I was speaking more generally.  If you were a musician living/playing in DC between 1980 and 1990, you seem to be blotted out of DC music history if you were not part of the Dischordian clique.


I hear ya. Also no mention of many of the bands with women. (Bratmobile, Tuscadero, Bikini Kill). That was a bummer for me.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 28, 2014, 10:02:28 am
Presume/hope Salad Days will do a better job of all that.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on October 28, 2014, 10:35:28 am
That's basically every DC music documentary.
And they probably interviewed the same 3-4 people.
Have members of Chalk Circle, No Trend, 9353 or Velvet Monkeys ever been interviewed for anything like that?

The thing about the DC episode of Sonic Highways, is I understand Dischord / Positive Force appears to be big part of Dave's teenage years... but, it sure seems like there are only three things of note from DC are, Bad Brains, Go Go Music and Dischord.  Basically, there was a bit too much of the usual suspect being interviewed in the hour...

But it's for HBO. Of course we know all these bands, but maybe it's reaching someone out there who's never heard of Bad Brains and Fugazi. I'm okay with that.
I was speaking more generally.  If you were a musician living/playing in DC between 1980 and 1990, you seem to be blotted out of DC music history if you were not part of the Dischordian clique.


Let's face it, DC has a very rich musical history. A 1-hour documentary isn't going to cover it. Shit, you could spend 1 hour alone on the 9:30 Club. Dischord is a dirty word around these parts anyway, but the reality is that the label has had a significant impact on creating an environment that was conducive to other bands and labels succeeding as well. I'm most disappointed by no mention of Teen Beat/Unrest, which a) is a phenomenal label and b) a truly great band that deserves more than a passing nod. Teen Beat has had some tremendous bands over the years: Air Miami, Flin Flon, Aden, Tuscadero, True Love Always, Versus, the Ropers, etc. Really great stuff.
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Post by: K8teebug on October 28, 2014, 12:03:24 pm
Presume/hope Salad Days will do a better job of all that.

Bought my ticket!
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Post by: betao on October 29, 2014, 08:08:33 am
Did anyone else check out The Damned / TSOL / The Briefs this past Sunday night? That was a damn good show from all of the bands.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on October 29, 2014, 09:17:46 am
Did anyone else check out The Damned / TSOL / The Briefs this past Sunday night? That was a damn good show from all of the bands.

Totally agreed. I made sure to get there early enough to catch all of them. TSOL was really good, but not great...but I enjoyed the heck out of them anyway. The Damned never really disappoint me. In fact, every time I get to see them is a bonus because years ago Captain Sensible told me that it was getting harder for them to come back. I guess they weren't making a lot of money. Yet they seem to make it work every few years now, and it was a pretty large/enthusiastic crowd thankfully.
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Post by: James Ford on October 29, 2014, 09:52:31 am
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Post by: James Ford on October 29, 2014, 09:53:22 am
When you converse with "CAptain Sensible" do you actually call him Captain?

Did anyone else check out The Damned / TSOL / The Briefs this past Sunday night? That was a damn good show from all of the bands.

Totally agreed. I made sure to get there early enough to catch all of them. TSOL was really good, but not great...but I enjoyed the heck out of them anyway. The Damned never really disappoint me. In fact, every time I get to see them is a bonus because years ago Captain Sensible told me that it was getting harder for them to come back. I guess they weren't making a lot of money. Yet they seem to make it work every few years now, and it was a pretty large/enthusiastic crowd thankfully.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 29, 2014, 10:48:21 am
Temples sounded absolutely boss at the club last night, with an impressive liquid light show featuring five overhead projectors and two dudes probably still high from the sixties..
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Post by: bearman🐻 on October 29, 2014, 02:45:27 pm
When you converse with "CAptain Sensible" do you actually call him Captain?

Did anyone else check out The Damned / TSOL / The Briefs this past Sunday night? That was a damn good show from all of the bands.

Totally agreed. I made sure to get there early enough to catch all of them. TSOL was really good, but not great...but I enjoyed the heck out of them anyway. The Damned never really disappoint me. In fact, every time I get to see them is a bonus because years ago Captain Sensible told me that it was getting harder for them to come back. I guess they weren't making a lot of money. Yet they seem to make it work every few years now, and it was a pretty large/enthusiastic crowd thankfully.

Dude, totally.
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Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 02:48:53 pm
Temples sounded absolutely boss at the club last night, with an impressive liquid light show featuring five overhead projectors and two dudes probably still high from the sixties..
How full was it?  That seems like a huge jump in venue size for them in a short time... Did I miss something?  Did they get a song on the radio or something?

Also, I wish I would have remembered they were coming through... I love Sun Structures; it will be on my top albums list for 2014 for sure.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 30, 2014, 10:53:06 pm
The Slowdive recording sounds nice!
Thanks to the taper who can out himself/herself and link to it if he/she wants. ;)
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Post by: emmanuel on October 30, 2014, 11:02:13 pm
oh someone uploaded my recording on YouTube? Well maybe I better stay quiet since there was a "no taping sign" that night, although Low doesn't mind.
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 30, 2014, 11:19:08 pm
No I got it off Dime. Stumbled upon your epic stash the other day while looking for recent recordings. Sweet collection!
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Post by: Bombay Chutney on October 30, 2014, 11:21:14 pm
Did anyone else check out The Damned / TSOL / The Briefs this past Sunday night? That was a damn good show from all of the bands.

I'm so bummed I ended up missing this one.   :-\
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Post by: Relaxer on November 04, 2014, 04:59:40 pm
Did anyone go to the Meat Puppets show? If so, how was it? I just love those guys and had tickets but couldn't make it out due to domestic issues.
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Post by: hutch on November 04, 2014, 06:26:00 pm
Did anyone go to the Meat Puppets show? If so, how was it? I just love those guys and had tickets but couldn't make it out due to domestic issues.

NO MORE
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Post by: bearman🐻 on November 09, 2014, 09:47:03 pm
Went to see Peter Hook and the Light in Philly. I have to say that I was absolutely blown away by this one, I wasn't entirely sure if he could keep up the "let's play 2 more LPs in order" schtick...but honestly, the way that he did it was absolutely perfect. 25 minutes of random Joy Division songs to warm up, then some singles/tracks from the mid-80's New Order period, "Brotherhood" then "Low Life" and finally an encore of stuff from "Substance". I couldn't believe how great the band integrated the electronic/pre-recorded stuff with the live performance. They sounded spectacular, better than the New Order show last year at Merriweather. 2 hours and 45 minutes long. David Potts, the dude from Revenge and Monaco, handled a lot of Bernard Sumner's melodies perfectly. Hook played way more bass because so many of the songs actually have TWO basslines. So for anyone who criticized the other shows for Hooky not playing enough bass, I think this would have satisfied them. Seth, if they come back and do another tour at some point, I really hope you can get them to DC. It was truly a special night. Here's a great interview with Hooky's son:

http://stereoembersmagazine.com/just-couldnt-prouder-interview-jack-bates-peter-hook-light/
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Post by: hutch on November 09, 2014, 10:29:39 pm
^that does sound good.... I'd go see Peter Hook again
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 09, 2014, 11:12:39 pm
^^I really enjoyed the show he did last time around at the 930 and I was a little bummed he didn't play the bass that much.  But it was a really tight show and would certainly want to see this tour
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 10, 2014, 09:38:23 am
Temples sounded absolutely boss at the club last night, with an impressive liquid light show featuring five overhead projectors and two dudes probably still high from the sixties..
How full was it?  That seems like a huge jump in venue size for them in a short time... Did I miss something?  Did they get a song on the radio or something?

Saw them at the Fillmore in San Francisco back in September.  Was definitely under-attended.
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Post by: emmanuel on November 10, 2014, 10:43:02 am
When was the last time Hook played DC? I thought he toured all the time. I always skipped his shows because I though it would be more "cover band" than band, but everyone says it is great so now I wanna go, but I haven't see him listed around where I live for the last 4 years or so.

Four shows last weekend! Nels Cline Singers / Robyn Hitchcock / Howe Gelb / Cibo Matto.

I'm tired of dinner-concerts at Rams Head on Stage and Jammin' Java now. Cant believe someone somewhere thought it was a good idea to combine a restaurant and indie rock shows.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on November 10, 2014, 10:45:30 am
I'm tired of dinner-concerts at Rams Head on Stage and Jammin' Java now. Cant believe someone somewhere thought it was a good idea to combine a restaurant and indie rock shows.
Personally, I go to the Birchmere for the food.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 10, 2014, 11:02:16 am
i enjoy eating while at a show or at one of those neato Alamo movie theatre houses, but find the process a complete annoyance to anybody else around me.  but do i care . . . that is the question.
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 10, 2014, 11:27:45 am
When was the last time Hook played DC? I thought he toured all the time. I always skipped his shows because I though it would be more "cover band" than band, but everyone says it is great so now I wanna go, but I haven't see him listed around where I live for the last 4 years or so.

12/1/2010 at the club.
It really was more than a coverband.  What surprised me is that he sings and really sounds a lot like Ian.  I wish he played bass the whole time though, when he did, it sounded awesome.
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Post by: betao on November 10, 2014, 01:54:11 pm
When was the last time Hook played DC? I thought he toured all the time. I always skipped his shows because I though it would be more "cover band" than band, but everyone says it is great so now I wanna go, but I haven't see him listed around where I live for the last 4 years or so.

12/1/2010 at the club.
It really was more than a coverband.  What surprised me is that he sings and really sounds a lot like Ian.  I wish he played bass the whole time though, when he did, it sounded awesome.


He also played in 2011, doing Closer in full. That show wasn't anymore crowded than the Unknown Pleasures. Still a fun night, and Hooky played alot more bass than he did the previous year, which was certainly nice.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 11, 2014, 10:20:06 am
Temples sounded absolutely boss at the club last night, with an impressive liquid light show featuring five overhead projectors and two dudes probably still high from the sixties..
How full was it?  That seems like a huge jump in venue size for them in a short time... Did I miss something?  Did they get a song on the radio or something?

Saw them at the Fillmore in San Francisco back in September.  Was definitely under-attended.

i meant to follow-up on this earlier... i'm bad at estimating attendance at the club, but it seemed about half full for Temples and the people there were into the show.  they themselves said playing the club may have been ambitious, but getting to hear them on the club's PA verses a smaller club was great. 
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Post by: Yada on November 12, 2014, 10:00:41 am
any truth to the rumor that azaghal1981 was tricked into attending the Concert for Valor last night?
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Post by: sweetcell on November 12, 2014, 01:41:41 pm
any truth to the rumor that azaghal1981 was tricked into attending the Concert for Valor last night?

was a crowd-funding campaign involved?
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Post by: Yada on November 12, 2014, 04:12:15 pm
any truth to the rumor that azaghal1981 was tricked into attending the Concert for Valor last night?

was a crowd-funding campaign involved?

the rumor I heard as the he was tricked into thinking Perfect Pussy was playing a house show at GW and was dropped on the mall.
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Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on November 12, 2014, 04:28:20 pm
any truth to the rumor that azaghal1981 was tricked into attending the Concert for Valor last night?

was a crowd-funding campaign involved?

the rumor I heard as the he was tricked into thinking Perfect Pussy was playing a house show at GW and was dropped on the mall.
When will this sight-on-blind crime end!!?
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Post by: azaghal1981 on November 12, 2014, 10:32:44 pm
I would've been able to tell something was off at around the transfer to the blue/orange line.

Don't think I would've known anyone dumb enough to have tried driving in.
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Post by: Yada on November 20, 2014, 02:15:08 pm
how was Alt-J?
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 20, 2014, 03:00:33 pm
You know it was fantastic...didn't want to waste my 1000'th post on them

So the echostage is definitely on the sketchy side of town.
When we got close, I told the person driving...follow all those skinny white kids and we'll get right to the front door

with that said... this area has improved quite a bit since the early 90s when I was a fearful youth at one of those Gas stations.

The sound at the Echostage is really good and do think I was particularly lucky to be behind row and rows of short girls.  Alt-J seems like a good show to pick up the cute ladies at...as there were lots

Only canned beer, but you could get 16oz cans of Stella for $7 which isn't too bad.

As I said they really had the sound perfect, as Alt-j really has their own distinct one and it was pitch perfect from where I was (always left side by the bar...)
 

They played a lot off the first album (which I think is better anyway)
Matildia became a sing along with the audience and the crowd knew just about every song played
Shesheshe, something good and tessellate were really tight

The new songs sounded really good.  I particularly like Every other Freckle and it sounded awesome after Tessellate

the Lovely Day cover is just ehh

This was the last date of the tour and they were a little chatty ...but not like a Ryan Adams show chatty...but chatty for them
The closed with a blazing rendition of Breezeblocks and blew out some confetti


(https://33.media.tumblr.com/87efdabfe2bb1069768e17ce28050e5e/tumblr_nfbjo9OeA91sgfkmzo1_1280.jpg)



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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 20, 2014, 03:15:11 pm
was it all good looking people?  i just assume, only good looking people go see them.  when i went to see them at the club, it was the beautiful people everywhere.  and they were snorting caviar daydreams and chugging champagne auras.
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Post by: Yada on November 20, 2014, 03:29:06 pm
thanks a lot sidehatch.

http://www.popville.com/2014/11/an-open-letter-to-the-galaxy-note-3-owner/

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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 20, 2014, 04:08:36 pm
thanks a lot sidehatch.

http://www.popville.com/2014/11/an-open-letter-to-the-galaxy-note-3-owner/


well...I just have the regular galaxy and I only took 15 shots and not 80
and that photo was clearly from the 930 and not the echostage
Although it is from the left...I would have been up much closer
so screw you open letter guy

so I see James is logging into the yada account now
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Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 20, 2014, 04:18:13 pm
was it all good looking people?  i just assume, only good looking people go see them.  when i went to see them at the club, it was the beautiful people everywhere.  and they were snorting caviar daydreams and chugging champagne auras.
well the dudes didn't look like Riff Raff (http://ineedhiphop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Caskey-feat.-Riff-Raff-Alec-Baldwin-1.jpg) ...so I don't really know if they were your type

but the people snorting caviar daydreams sound like Julian's peeps, not the Alt-J crowd.
They kinda looked like they might have still been living with their parents
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Post by: Rogue Riderhood on November 20, 2014, 04:27:54 pm
Riff Raff has gotten a lot bigger since that picture in your link was taken.
now
(http://scontent-a-iad.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10735000_964125666934600_1592975922_n.jpg)
and
(http://scontent-b-iad.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xap1/t51.2885-15/10808751_1515811988687504_1773404745_n.jpg)
versus
then
(http://ineedhiphop.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Caskey-feat.-Riff-Raff-Alec-Baldwin-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 20, 2014, 04:33:05 pm
This guy seriously freaks me out
shark teeth (https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/36B56B552F1057569048395177984_1ce0c0758cb.4.8.8213406174253294714.mp4?versionId=kE.XBe7A7lB37gVaYRmZsJ6kskpCdvU1)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on November 20, 2014, 04:34:36 pm
(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpa1/10748156_1527007600882961_963975702_n.jpg)
(http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xap1/10731909_1514829835425558_155338281_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on November 21, 2014, 10:27:57 am
Had a couple friends on the Mad Decent Boat Party last week and said he was creeping out a ton of girls.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: dégorgement-hatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on November 21, 2014, 10:50:49 am
dude, that guy would freak out Freddie Kruger
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on November 21, 2014, 12:22:41 pm
I guess he's become more weird with his semi fame. One of my buddies played a festival with him a couple years ago and they shared a hotel room. He said he was super quiet and nice. Fast forward to this year and some of my other buds who have played with him said he's a huge coke head and spaz in general lol.
Title: Re: Post Show Banter >>>>
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on November 21, 2014, 12:37:31 pm
It is because he has been spending too much time with Andy Milonakis.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Andy_Milonakis_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg)
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